1kg max payload. plastic housing. The only thing they will democratize is novelty applications. Real robots rely on Repeatability, Positional Accuracy, Minimizing backlash in the gearing, and handling heavy loads throughout a considerable work environment. They are basically saying we are the next, cheaper, Universal Robot. Seriously. All of these companies trying to make robots are forgetting the one basic question; Why? Why do we need another robot company. The robot arm and gearing itself is just dumb widgets. The real technology is in the robot controller. These guys would be better spending their time making an existing robot work better. They are not alone. Everyone and their cousin is trying to build a robot now. It's just sad because the fact is when it comes to commercialization, they will have to fight tooth and nail for scraps.
Hi, Ian Thompson. I am glad to see you here. I met you at Seoul's Robot World Exhibition 2015 when you visited our company's booth (Neuromeka). Also, we're gonna bring our latest embedded controller and the first version of our manipulator to this year's exhibition . Hope to see you again.
"Real robots rely on Repeatability, Positional Accuracy, Minimizing backlash in the gearing, and handling heavy loads throughout a considerable work environment." heavy loads, fast cycle times, high repeatability, yes that is what current robots are all about and its great. However, there are applications where all that is meaningless yet a robot arm would be great thing to have if it only wasn't so expensive. There are plenty of conceivable applications where accuracy on the order of centimeter-ish is plenty, where you can have cycle time of minute or more, where the loads are light etc, problem is, there usually isn't much of a budget to solve such problems. Trying to develop a low cost equivalent of a 6 axis robot is not a bad idea at all, even if it means much reduced capabilities.
The problem of this type of low cost robot is that most of the applications are commercial in scope. I just worry that a robot targeted as such will face the same difficulties that #Makerbot did with its consumer focused 3D printers. It doesn't work. It's mostly a novelty and has a very low demand in the real marketplace. This might be a decent robot for the educational market, and I hope that it gets targeted as such.
Pretty sure this was made for educational purposes. Some colleges out there have a friggin' Kuka in their labs that cost tens of thousands of dollars. This is a decently-engineered (software wise) robot that offers educational institutions a product that costs a fraction of the money and serves the same purpose. I am pretty sure it isn't meant for BMW's assembly plants. No need to shit on everything out there. Especially in the world of engineering, there's a large disconnect between what's taught in schools and what's being done in industry. These solutions help fill the gap in one aspect of engineering, which is always nice.
Consider jewelry production industry. Manpower intensive, and drones can deliver bins of semi-finished goods, whereas low cost robotic arms can pick up RFID inserted rubber molds for wax injection.
And the specifications are really poor compared to industry standards. A repeatability of 0.5mm is laughably bad. An industry standard like the Epson C8 has 0.020mm of repeatability and it's not even twice as expensive. Industry does not want cheaper robots, they want more reliable, higher-performing robots with on-site support just a phone call away. Few hobbyists have +10k to spend on a single tool (and this one cannot even do PCB assembly or 3D printing with those specs), so where does that leave this proposition?
1:48 That's complete bull. No way the robot could reliably remove prints given the bed adhesion. Would only be viable for fringe tops of prints. Other than this marketing exaggeration, I think this definitely looks promising. Might allow for some cool shots of you mount a camera on there.
I like their frequent design iterations, use of 3D printed materials and customer focus. Re: CH N, you can find a good one for a little less than that actually. Check out Panda Research here www.franka.de/cart/
@@Boris_Chang Skyentific has developed an even cheaper robot: ua-cam.com/channels/cgqJ1blFKqbC2bWGY4Opmg.html and he works on pushing the price down for powerful components. I suggest you keep an eye on him. The DIY robot in his profile pic is about 400 USD in parts.
@@Boris_Chang Depends on the material you want to print. Some materials like ABS need an enclosure around the printer to maintain a specific temperature.- A big printer room is also useful, otherwise you cannot print big parts. Belt Printers are a workaround for that. Pelt printers also can print multiple warts without being maintained that often. Then there are dual head printers that can print different materials with specific capabilities or colours. It is a wide field and not buying the cheapest ist a good idea to get accurate results without much fiddling and fine tuning.
No. You need far more skills than just a file or two. You need Electronics skills, Soldering, and Circuit Design skills, and you need a purposeful job to keep it working 24\7. A company, a contract, and a market, for profit. Amateur.... ??? No. You are a wannabe. You have zero talent with any of it. I guess you need more education, in many fields of many Sciences.
Good I like your concept I am student and Want to know is it fully automated , and have you design robotic arm with full automation and moving capabilities
first calling out 50.000 dollar to then pricing a plastic arm to 3000 dollar does not make it worth it or cheap. The only thing cheap here is the marketing.
Is this a joke? How do you "democratize" robotics with closed-source hardware and software? Check out ROS OpenManipulator from Robotis to see what an affordable robot arm is like...
Absolutely not. In my experience, the tolerance, capacity and speed are not nearly good enough. It's one thing unloading a part from a 3D printer. Try unloading a part from a machine that doesn't come out easily. I think they're in for a surprise if they ever try and get into the industrial markets. There's a reason robots are expensive.
3d printer and arm work together like 3d printer stops arm come in put motors CPU then 3d print rezoom printing around wires to have a true finish parts in bed Coponets ?
having used one of these robots for a few months, they suck shit. Theyre loud, get hot, and if you bump into the end effector it shits the bed and needs to be power cycled.
There seems to be a sharp threshold of price/usefulness that has to be overcome for these projects not to be dead ends.
1kg max payload. plastic housing. The only thing they will democratize is novelty applications.
Real robots rely on Repeatability, Positional Accuracy, Minimizing backlash in the gearing, and handling heavy loads throughout a considerable work environment.
They are basically saying we are the next, cheaper, Universal Robot. Seriously. All of these companies trying to make robots are forgetting the one basic question; Why? Why do we need another robot company. The robot arm and gearing itself is just dumb widgets. The real technology is in the robot controller. These guys would be better spending their time making an existing robot work better. They are not alone. Everyone and their cousin is trying to build a robot now. It's just sad because the fact is when it comes to commercialization, they will have to fight tooth and nail for scraps.
Hi, Ian Thompson. I am glad to see you here. I met you at Seoul's Robot World Exhibition 2015 when you visited our company's booth (Neuromeka).
Also, we're gonna bring our latest embedded controller and the first version of our manipulator to this year's exhibition .
Hope to see you again.
"Real robots rely on Repeatability, Positional Accuracy, Minimizing backlash in the gearing, and handling heavy loads throughout a considerable work environment." heavy loads, fast cycle times, high repeatability, yes that is what current robots are all about and its great. However, there are applications where all that is meaningless yet a robot arm would be great thing to have if it only wasn't so expensive. There are plenty of conceivable applications where accuracy on the order of centimeter-ish is plenty, where you can have cycle time of minute or more, where the loads are light etc, problem is, there usually isn't much of a budget to solve such problems.
Trying to develop a low cost equivalent of a 6 axis robot is not a bad idea at all, even if it means much reduced capabilities.
The problem of this type of low cost robot is that most of the applications are commercial in scope. I just worry that a robot targeted as such will face the same difficulties that #Makerbot did with its consumer focused 3D printers. It doesn't work. It's mostly a novelty and has a very low demand in the real marketplace. This might be a decent robot for the educational market, and I hope that it gets targeted as such.
Pretty sure this was made for educational purposes. Some colleges out there have a friggin' Kuka in their labs that cost tens of thousands of dollars.
This is a decently-engineered (software wise) robot that offers educational institutions a product that costs a fraction of the money and serves the same purpose.
I am pretty sure it isn't meant for BMW's assembly plants.
No need to shit on everything out there. Especially in the world of engineering, there's a large disconnect between what's taught in schools and what's being done in industry. These solutions help fill the gap in one aspect of engineering, which is always nice.
Consider jewelry production industry. Manpower intensive, and drones can deliver bins of semi-finished goods, whereas low cost robotic arms can pick up RFID inserted rubber molds for wax injection.
I went to the site. It's being sold for 10.5k. Come on man.
I was disappointed
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And the specifications are really poor compared to industry standards. A repeatability of 0.5mm is laughably bad. An industry standard like the Epson C8 has 0.020mm of repeatability and it's not even twice as expensive.
Industry does not want cheaper robots, they want more reliable, higher-performing robots with on-site support just a phone call away. Few hobbyists have +10k to spend on a single tool (and this one cannot even do PCB assembly or 3D printing with those specs), so where does that leave this proposition?
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And if they go the FANUC route, you'll have to buy option X, option Y and option Z just to do A, B and C!
This project seems to be till now not more than a dream $3000 with this technical data.
looks good for learning robotics. i Just want to know what's programming language is best for this type of arm robotics . please help me...
3000$ is not shaky plastics level. So back to the drawing board.
1:48 That's complete bull. No way the robot could reliably remove prints given the bed adhesion. Would only be viable for fringe tops of prints.
Other than this marketing exaggeration, I think this definitely looks promising. Might allow for some cool shots of you mount a camera on there.
Ok, BUT FOR 3000$??! It can't even handle a decent size DSLR with a good pair of lenses.
Does it have stepper motor, servos or brushless motors?!
Someone should tell them that a small collaborative robot that can handle a 3kg platform starts at $ 25k not 50.
can you tell me more? any name?
I like their frequent design iterations, use of 3D printed materials and customer focus. Re: CH N, you can find a good one for a little less than that actually. Check out Panda Research here www.franka.de/cart/
Universal Robots UR3
If you dont know how to integrate one in your process you will pay 50k.
@@alextalos6141 So we are including engineering / integration costs now? Are integrators free with this model?
what kind of motors did you use for that?
What is the type of joints drive?
2 kg plastic 6 motor a controller few wire cost 3000 dollor can we cut cost upto1000
why does every recent robot arm maker feel the need to attach the word "democratize" to their product? it's getting annoying...
MARKETING
Eeeeeeeee. Bravoooooo. Espero que salgan al mercado lo mas rapido posible. Pueden colaborar como si estuvieran las manos de un solo robot???
I love this video so much.
$3000 robot made out of plastic? Be nice to see some durability testing videos.
Good Luck, I hope it will be !
Looks good for learning robotics. Just want to know when will it be available to market.
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are they water proof or weather resistant
what kind of motors do you use?
They used stepper motors.
Is it possible to buy this robot?
3d print?
You can get a 6 DOF with 750g lifting capacity for a little over a grand. If this is democratizing, I’m Gandhi.
Which one are you talking about ? Open Manipulator?
@@Flix-f6q Alright, I was talking out of my ass. The Dobot I had my eye on has a payload of 500g and is $1,600.
@@Boris_Chang Skyentific has developed an even cheaper robot: ua-cam.com/channels/cgqJ1blFKqbC2bWGY4Opmg.html
and he works on pushing the price down for powerful components. I suggest you keep an eye on him. The DIY robot in his profile pic is about 400 USD in parts.
I do not own a 3D printer yet. I am budgeting for one. Are there some that are better than others. for making robot parts?
@@Boris_Chang Depends on the material you want to print. Some materials like ABS need an enclosure around the printer to maintain a specific temperature.- A big printer room is also useful, otherwise you cannot print big parts.
Belt Printers are a workaround for that. Pelt printers also can print multiple warts without being maintained that often. Then there are dual head printers that can print different materials with specific capabilities or colours. It is a wide field and not buying the cheapest ist a good idea to get accurate results without much fiddling and fine tuning.
Can ve get the 3D files for this robot arm to build it ourselves for hobby purposes?
No.
You need far more skills than just a file or two.
You need Electronics skills, Soldering, and Circuit Design skills, and you need a purposeful job to keep it working 24\7.
A company, a contract, and a market, for profit.
Amateur.... ??? No. You are a wannabe.
You have zero talent with any of it.
I guess you need more education, in many fields of many Sciences.
Good I like your concept I am student and Want to know is it fully automated , and have you design robotic arm with full automation and moving capabilities
This shit's overprice.
For such a weak and small robot, this would only cost ~1000 USD or so
Open source?
OK let’s put the robot arms together using the robot arms, not human hand!
How to buy is available on amazon?
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sonds great man
@@debraunyIf it is convenient, please tell me your email address and I will send some information to you
first calling out 50.000 dollar to then pricing a plastic arm to 3000 dollar does not make it worth it or cheap. The only thing cheap here is the marketing.
FUSION360 POWER!!!!!!!
YESSSSS!
All your trade secrets sent to a Cloud computer in the US. YAAAAYYYY! THere is no such thing as a free lunch.
@@Flix-f6q I understand your point of view....but I am not in a company that has the need too keep secret desings.
Interesting innovation. Keep going...
3000 USD? More like 7000 British pounds now in 2020.
If you need to buy a manipulator or joint actuator at a favorable price, please contact me, I can help you.
intrested to fix to my ice cream machine is it possible ?
Is this a joke? How do you "democratize" robotics with closed-source hardware and software? Check out ROS OpenManipulator from Robotis to see what an affordable robot arm is like...
Where i can buy it ?
automata.tech/shop.html
If you need to buy a 6 axis manipulator or joint actuator at a favorable price,around $3600 per one, please contact me, I can help you.
Sir robotic welding mechanic need
Price kitni pdegi
or you could make one out of lego for £200
I like this robotic
Is this robot is ready to be an Industrial Robotic"?
Absolutely not. In my experience, the tolerance, capacity and speed are not nearly good enough. It's one thing unloading a part from a 3D printer. Try unloading a part from a machine that doesn't come out easily. I think they're in for a surprise if they ever try and get into the industrial markets.
There's a reason robots are expensive.
3d printer and arm work together like 3d printer stops arm come in put motors CPU then 3d print rezoom printing around wires to have a true finish parts in bed Coponets ?
having used one of these robots for a few months, they suck shit. Theyre loud, get hot, and if you bump into the end effector it shits the bed and needs to be power cycled.
$3000 NOPE 10.000+
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Hanzhen harmonic drive gear , machine gear reducer, over 30 years experience
WTF
3000$??!!
why, it's so much
They have to fund their poppadum addiction.
innovative...
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can you contact me ? I need software support
there are really cheaper opensource bots out there 3000 is a lot you are not democratising anything
Some excellent decisions, but plastic? Thats a nono.
More arm mass means a lower payload.
o I like this
+Moonsabie i bet you are that one dislike :P
You like it because .... ??? Why ???
it's a thing, it's not a 'she'. And you might get sued by Disney for using that name.
And Disney sued by God for having used HIS OWN name! Come on! :)
Where can i buy it ?
here: automata.tech/
Dear friend, do you need a robot arm? The price is around $3200. A 6-axis robot arm, please contact me if you need it (luoxuefeng2023@gmail.com).
@@xiaofengluo117 there is an even cheaper one on ebay from china for $369.99
review and link ua-cam.com/video/O91DT1pR1ew/v-deo.html
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Lol.. Is this a joke.