Ive been playing for 43 years now and as my playing has improved over the years,..I found myself being more interested in learning from other players and learning in general...The better I became the more I sought knowledge. It's remarkable when you think about it. Ive always struggled with pulling back and just playing and leaning on what is within my skill, knowlege and repertoire and enjoying that. I am forced to do it when playing a set at a gig. But almost all other time is devoted to trying to get better.
I've got three of Noel's ebooks. Modal Etudes, Voicing Modes and 4 Note Universe, a lot of great information in those. I started watching the Flippening video the other evening but I think I;ll leave that for the weekend, so much to take in.
One thing that I learned from the great Dan Haerle (RIP), another great music instructor in the North Texas area, is to look for common tones when playing through changes or when using modal interchange. Find the common notes that work over every chord in a progression and explore how the other notes in the scale shift with the chords and what their role in the harmony is. Then, you're not really shifting your thinking from one scale 'shape' to another, trying to link together disparate shapes mid-phrase, but you're instead highlighting the beautiful inner line movements that happen when shifting keys/modes with the common tones to fall back on. Dan was a pianist, not a guitarist, and I was (at least at the time and according to him) the only guitarist that sought him out for 1 on 1 lessons after his tenure at UNT, and he used to play through standards and have me move through the chords, one note per chord, moving only in steps and staying still if the current note i'm playing also worked on the next chord. We then expanded this to his 'magic motives' concept, which essentially elaborated on the idea of tetrachords applied to harmony, applying them as various upper structures of chords from which you can build vocabulary out of. Instead of just common tones that work between adjacent chords, you can build phrases out of common 5 note scale fragments. Best of luck on this journey, I'm still working on all the pearls of wisdom Dan shared with me years later. This stuff is a lifelong exploration!
Yes! When I recently first watched Noel play Bach Partita in B minor on YT, , it reset me back to aspiring to be a musician. Thank you Noel and Micheal for this.
I took some lessons last year for the same reasons as yourself. My teacher went over Christopher Cross' debut album and showed me all the tunes that have modal solos for a good starting point. Great songs and solos!
Cool! I've never listened to Zappa (just a song or two), but I've listened to SO many people that are heavily influenced by him. I guess I need to go back and do some Zappa homework.
@@BigHairyGuitars No idea if you know him (I do not), though I imagine LA as everyone knowing each other :-) I bet Jamie Kime would be an incredible lesson for Zappa phrasing. He toured with Dweezil for a while and is a monster player
@@LaMarrBrewster I LOVE Jamie! He's sort of a new friend. I met him at Dave Friedman's shop. The nicest dude, and he's, and MONSTER player. I've picked his brain a bit too. Gotta still sit down and play with him.
@@BigHairyGuitars that’s fantastic. I’m on the other coast, but it must be pretty fantastic to be in the inner circle in such a talented town. Congrats, you deserve all of your successes. Ps, take the lesson with him. lol
Well, it’s over my head but sounds great. How you came up with the chords in a future video maybe? I hope you do this more often. Thank you and have a great evening.
Secret to me is to see the chord tones and the notes around them. "forget" the scale approach. Of course you need to learn from people who use that approach to understand it. Yes, I'm talking about some jazz LOL SORRY
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Ive been playing for 43 years now and as my playing has improved over the years,..I found myself being more interested in learning from other players and learning in general...The better I became the more I sought knowledge.
It's remarkable when you think about it. Ive always struggled with pulling back and just playing and leaning on what is within my skill, knowlege and repertoire and enjoying that. I am forced to do it when playing a set at a gig. But almost all other time is devoted to trying to get better.
This was great. I need to do stuff like this more as it only gets easier the more you practice
I've got three of Noel's ebooks. Modal Etudes, Voicing Modes and 4 Note Universe, a lot of great information in those. I started watching the Flippening video the other evening but I think I;ll leave that for the weekend, so much to take in.
This is really cool. I’m gonna dig in to this later tonight.
Thanks Michael. I certainly will have a play around with this. 🙏
One thing that I learned from the great Dan Haerle (RIP), another great music instructor in the North Texas area, is to look for common tones when playing through changes or when using modal interchange.
Find the common notes that work over every chord in a progression and explore how the other notes in the scale shift with the chords and what their role in the harmony is. Then, you're not really shifting your thinking from one scale 'shape' to another, trying to link together disparate shapes mid-phrase, but you're instead highlighting the beautiful inner line movements that happen when shifting keys/modes with the common tones to fall back on.
Dan was a pianist, not a guitarist, and I was (at least at the time and according to him) the only guitarist that sought him out for 1 on 1 lessons after his tenure at UNT, and he used to play through standards and have me move through the chords, one note per chord, moving only in steps and staying still if the current note i'm playing also worked on the next chord. We then expanded this to his 'magic motives' concept, which essentially elaborated on the idea of tetrachords applied to harmony, applying them as various upper structures of chords from which you can build vocabulary out of. Instead of just common tones that work between adjacent chords, you can build phrases out of common 5 note scale fragments.
Best of luck on this journey, I'm still working on all the pearls of wisdom Dan shared with me years later. This stuff is a lifelong exploration!
whoa that's awesome. What a cool approach! Thanks for sharing.
Love your videos, man! Thanks so much for the shoutout! Very honored.
Yes! When I recently first watched Noel play Bach Partita in B minor on YT, , it reset me back to aspiring to be a musician. Thank you Noel and Micheal for this.
Will you please do a read thru commentary on a vintage Guitar magazine soon? I think we all love that. 😊
Oooh a Naylor out in the wild, that's rare!
I took some lessons last year for the same reasons as yourself. My teacher went over Christopher Cross' debut album and showed me all the tunes that have modal solos for a good starting point. Great songs and solos!
That's such a great lesson...I must try this!!!
Oh, weird... I just happened to watch one of this guy's videos for the first time last night and now here you are talking about him.
@5:36 is a very Frank Zappa sounding line, which is awesome. I love that the screen shows Improve instead of Improv...that's amazing
Cool! I've never listened to Zappa (just a song or two), but I've listened to SO many people that are heavily influenced by him. I guess I need to go back and do some Zappa homework.
@@BigHairyGuitars No idea if you know him (I do not), though I imagine LA as everyone knowing each other :-) I bet Jamie Kime would be an incredible lesson for Zappa phrasing. He toured with Dweezil for a while and is a monster player
@@LaMarrBrewster I LOVE Jamie! He's sort of a new friend. I met him at Dave Friedman's shop. The nicest dude, and he's, and MONSTER player. I've picked his brain a bit too. Gotta still sit down and play with him.
@@BigHairyGuitars that’s fantastic. I’m on the other coast, but it must be pretty fantastic to be in the inner circle in such a talented town. Congrats, you deserve all of your successes. Ps, take the lesson with him. lol
Well, it’s over my head but sounds great. How you came up with the chords in a future video maybe? I hope you do this more often. Thank you and have a great evening.
Love your videos. But what guitar is that looks amazing?
please do more of this
Secret to me is to see the chord tones and the notes around them. "forget" the scale approach. Of course you need to learn from people who use that approach to understand it. Yes, I'm talking about some jazz LOL SORRY
Great vid! Thank you Michael🤘🏻Doing great work brother. Greatly appreciated