Sorry for the delay. The certification process for L1 you build a rocket capable of flying on an H or I impulse motor, successfully launch & recover. L2 requires a L1 & stronger build to handle J,K,& L motors with electronics, taking a test on safety & scientific theory, launch & recover. L3 requires both L1 & L2 as well as documenting the build, reviewed by 2 TAP members & successful flight & recovery. All of the above requires a membership in either TRA or NAR for insurance.
as far as I know ( I don't do anything bigger than mid power rockets) you have to get someone to buy a motor in the size class that you want to be certified for, then successfully launch and recover the rocket so it can immediately be re-launched.
I make my own casings, nozzles, forward closures etc. with my research motors... but the motor for this video is a certified motor being that it is a certification flight. It's all good. :)
Hi Western Spirit, the launch pad in this video was built by members in our local club and is privately owned. Most of the launch equipment for our club is built by various members who are skilled with electronics, metal fabrication, etc.
@@FireHoundProductions I presume it takes a while to build then upgrade systems within an established club. A new club would need to start from scratch or borrow equipment. I was just curious because we don't have an established club in my area.
@@Roarmeister2 I know that wilsonfx.com has launch controllers, not sure who has launch pads. What is your location? Are you a member of National Association of Rocketry (NAR) or Tripoli Rocketry Assn?
@JDrockerDUDE Another rocket was on the pad just before I launched an needed the extra segment. It was just easier to use it the way the pad was set up.
I know this was a long time ago but was your main via a cable cutter or a chute cannon? Looked like a chute cannon but it looked like you had a common recovery bridle. EDIT: watched it in slomo and looks like a cable cutter. Very nice flight, picture perfect on the up part and the down part. :-)
Brian, I used a Black Sky ARRD (Advanced Retention and Release Device). They do not make it anymore however Rattworks now makes the same item. (I believe Rattworks originally was the supplier/mfg for Black Sky.) It works on a toggle which holds the main back in the tube until the pyrodex charge pushes forward an internal piston which releases the toggle & the main chute. Below is a link to a page that explains how it works as well a a link to a dealer that I know handles them. If there are any more question feel free to ask. www.rattworks.net/docs/ARRD-Assy3.pdf aeroconsystems.com/cart/launch-recovery/rattworks-aard-advanced-retention-release-device/
Thank you so much for the reply!! I am getting back into the hobby after being on hiatus since 2009. Planning my L1/2/3 certs now lol. So, researching GPS units and some deployment options and your video came up. Absolutely flawless flight, I will say that again. How many flights did that release device get used? Any issues? Thanks! Brian - TRA2578
It was used for about a half dozen flights maybe, then had a high speed ejection (right after motor burn-out) that ripped the toggle out with the main. The toggle got damaged by being pulled through the ball bearings that hold it in place. Now I have a Rattworks one to try. The original rocket has since been damaged beyond repair.
More info, & local clubs you can visit to fly rockets can be found at tripoli(dot)org or at nar(dot)org. Look for launches in your area, the people love to help new people get started.
I am by no means attempting to degrade amateur rocketeers. I was merely trying to help the boy who asked what fuel was used in this video. (I think it's no secret that kno3/sucrose wasn't used) "Rcandy" or whatever you wish to call it is used only by amateur rocketeers. APCP on the other hand is used by NASA and virtually all militaries in the world. Please, do not be offended. There is nothing morally wrong with using kno3/sucrose. :)
Thanks for admitting my point. Sorry if I seemed a bit too zealous in my attempt to make it. Now, let's all have a beverage and launch a rocket. Remember, the only difference between men and boys is the size of their rockets. Heh Heh
Of course it wasn’t a sugar motor, it was a Tripoli event. There’s a whole cottage industry built around not only selling a type of rocket motor but also needing to sell the notion that if you don’t use THOSE motors you are an “amateur”. That’s what offends me. NASA and the militaries are true professionals, the rest of us from an Estes builder to Steve Eves’ and his Saturn V… all of us are amateurs. Please try to get over yourself and certification level.
I thought you were making a comment about the expertise of the builder rather than the quality of the fuel. Concerning which fuel is the choice of the “pro’s”… as I look around UA-cam I see very few professionals (people who make their living building rockets) and an awful lot of hobbyists. It’s quite arrogant to try and cast ridicule upon another group of “hobbyists” just because they choose a different means to the same end… punching a hole in the sky.
"KNO3/sugar is for less experienced amateurs" ??? I thought it was just the opposite... "store bought" motors are for people who won't (or can't) do the science required to design and build their own motors. Look at "Jack's Pointed End Up" launch and tell me that guy is an "amateur".
Great flight! Congrats on the L3 Cert.
Congratulations on a great flight and your certification.....
VERY nice dual deploy. Congrats!
Nice flight! IMPRESSIVE!
Sorry for the delay.
The certification process for L1 you build a rocket capable of flying on an H or I impulse motor, successfully launch & recover. L2 requires a L1 & stronger build to handle J,K,& L motors with electronics, taking a test on safety & scientific theory, launch & recover. L3 requires both L1 & L2 as well as documenting the build, reviewed by 2 TAP members & successful flight & recovery. All of the above requires a membership in either TRA or NAR for insurance.
Sweet. Gotta love it when it works.
as far as I know ( I don't do anything bigger than mid power rockets) you have to get someone to buy a motor in the size class that you want to be certified for, then successfully launch and recover the rocket so it can immediately be re-launched.
Hoorah. Congratulations
2020 mana nih ajgg!!!
Nice flight by a nice looking rocket!
Willing to share any details on the main deployment from the same hole as the drouge?
Great job, congrats
Hey Brainiacs, ever heard of the camera treipod?
I make my own casings, nozzles, forward closures etc. with my research motors... but the motor for this video is a certified motor being that it is a certification flight. It's all good. :)
Question for you guys: who makes and funds the launch equipment (launch pad, firing mechanisms, safety equipment, etc.)
Hi Western Spirit, the launch pad in this video was built by members in our local club and is privately owned. Most of the launch equipment for our club is built by various members who are skilled with electronics, metal fabrication, etc.
@@FireHoundProductions I presume it takes a while to build then upgrade systems within an established club. A new club would need to start from scratch or borrow equipment. I was just curious because we don't have an established club in my area.
@@Roarmeister2 I know that wilsonfx.com has launch controllers, not sure who has launch pads. What is your location? Are you a member of National Association of Rocketry (NAR) or Tripoli Rocketry Assn?
@JDrockerDUDE
Another rocket was on the pad just before I launched an needed the extra segment. It was just easier to use it the way the pad was set up.
very impressive
was such a tall rail necessary for the size of that rocket?
for certification do you have to complete a specific type of successful flight with the largest motor that you ARE certified to run?
Look up the Tripoli Rocketry Association and the National Association of Rocketry. You should have little trouble finding a club near you.
@FireHoundProductions what brand was your propellant? or the motor casing. did it use any altimeters?
fun video but you forgot some info. How high did it go up?
do you know if theres anywhere in new jersey you can fly highpowered rockets?
I know this was a long time ago but was your main via a cable cutter or a chute cannon? Looked like a chute cannon but it looked like you had a common recovery bridle.
EDIT: watched it in slomo and looks like a cable cutter. Very nice flight, picture perfect on the up part and the down part. :-)
Brian, I used a Black Sky ARRD (Advanced Retention and Release Device). They do not make it anymore however Rattworks now makes the same item. (I believe Rattworks originally was the supplier/mfg for Black Sky.)
It works on a toggle which holds the main back in the tube until the pyrodex charge pushes forward an internal piston which releases the toggle & the main chute.
Below is a link to a page that explains how it works as well a a link to a dealer that I know handles them.
If there are any more question feel free to ask.
www.rattworks.net/docs/ARRD-Assy3.pdf
aeroconsystems.com/cart/launch-recovery/rattworks-aard-advanced-retention-release-device/
Thank you so much for the reply!! I am getting back into the hobby after being on hiatus since 2009. Planning my L1/2/3 certs now lol. So, researching GPS units and some deployment options and your video came up.
Absolutely flawless flight, I will say that again. How many flights did that release device get used? Any issues?
Thanks!
Brian - TRA2578
It was used for about a half dozen flights maybe, then had a high speed ejection (right after motor burn-out) that ripped the toggle out with the main. The toggle got damaged by being pulled through the ball bearings that hold it in place. Now I have a Rattworks one to try. The original rocket has since been damaged beyond repair.
More info, & local clubs you can visit to fly rockets can be found at tripoli(dot)org or at nar(dot)org. Look for launches in your area, the people love to help new people get started.
@FireHoundProductions
kno3/sugar?
How high did that go? It looks as if that stubby little thing should have gone higher.
so, get the trailer back?
Wow, how can I get into this?
all those fins and the camera man still went shakey
I am by no means attempting to degrade amateur rocketeers. I was merely trying to help the boy who asked what fuel was used in this video. (I think it's no secret that kno3/sucrose wasn't used)
"Rcandy" or whatever you wish to call it is used only by amateur rocketeers. APCP on the other hand is used by NASA and virtually all militaries in the world. Please, do not be offended. There is nothing morally wrong with using kno3/sucrose. :)
Thanks for admitting my point. Sorry if I seemed a bit too zealous in my attempt to make it. Now, let's all have a beverage and launch a rocket. Remember, the only difference between men and boys is the size of their rockets. Heh Heh
Cool
It's a V2 :P
That's a "V6"
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Of course it wasn’t a sugar motor, it was a Tripoli event. There’s a whole cottage industry built around not only selling a type of rocket motor but also needing to sell the notion that if you don’t use THOSE motors you are an “amateur”. That’s what offends me. NASA and the militaries are true professionals, the rest of us from an Estes builder to Steve Eves’ and his Saturn V… all of us are amateurs. Please try to get over yourself and certification level.
I thought you were making a comment about the expertise of the builder rather than the quality of the fuel. Concerning which fuel is the choice of the “pro’s”… as I look around UA-cam I see very few professionals (people who make their living building rockets) and an awful lot of hobbyists. It’s quite arrogant to try and cast ridicule upon another group of “hobbyists” just because they choose a different means to the same end… punching a hole in the sky.
"KNO3/sugar is for less experienced amateurs" ??? I thought it was just the opposite... "store bought" motors are for people who won't (or can't) do the science required to design and build their own motors. Look at "Jack's Pointed End Up" launch and tell me that guy is an "amateur".
more like APCP, kno3/sugar is for less experienced amateurs.