Linus: "I'm sure the results will surprise you" Me: Wow so the little one isn’t going to be slower and hotter! Linus: The little one is slower and hotter.
Well, I am not sure. But here is a guess anyway, I know that Linus Media Group has a giant ass green screen. I think that Linus shot the clip of him standing and waiting with the screen and the clip of someone working with the Corsair Clone was shot separately. Later, the Corsair Clone clip was sped up and the clip of Linus standing was pasted on to it. Or, I could be totally wrong and Linus is actually standing like that in real time. .
I am not sure after transition the "sparkle" the footage cut to masking by recording Linus separately and merge to the video. When the footage speeds up the masking replaces real Linus to the end of the clip. I'm not sure probably Linus is standing all the clip he
@@suprafastmafc If configuring the bios of a several grand all in one is needed to keep it from throttling, maybe corsair should have sent this one back to the engineering team
"PC Specs are meaningless" > Proceeds to compare two systems with different specs. The case, motherboard and cooling solution are all part of the system specification and it is well known and documented that these affect overall system performance to varying degrees. (Even the RAM might have had different heatsinks even running the same timings, but i'm not sure if RAM throttles). Video is a waste of time, LTT has gone downhill.
I know right?! As an avid watcher of Gamers Nexus I did not see the conclusion of this video coming as soon as I spied that choked off undercooled case! What a wild and unexpected ending!
If anything, this video just shows me how well engineered the corsair one is. I thought it would underperform compared to a full sized system by way more of a margin.
But for how long? For me it was 14 months. It's not well engineered, it's total garbage and corsair support is worse than garbage. Mine had two major failures the boot SSD and the GPU. I wanted to pay corsair to renew my warranty or repair it, but they refused. It's the first time in 20+ years I felt compelled to file a consumer protection report because every other computer I've own lasted at least 8+ years with moderate to heavy use.
@@v01d_r34l1ty DLSS fucking sucks, I have a 2070 super and it really doesn't give me a big FPS boost. Like maybe 20 at the very most I've ever seen, but at a huge cost to visuals. The ghosting on DLSS or whatever you would call it is awful. Literally anything moving has trails behind it and it always makes the game look genuinely awful unless you upscale to 4k or some shit which defeats the purpose for just an FPS boost.
Wow. Have never seen a bigger deal made out of a non-issue. It's a super compact, itx pre-built that gives 97.5% of the performance of the full-ATX version. Seems great to me.
@@ghostkilla931 I mean his right… making components smaller can be expensive, plus the cost of building it. You would have get the same issues in a small form factor PC. And 2.5% decrease is nothing you can’t even notice it. Obviously it’s not a bang for the buck machine, but it’s not the point of it !!! If you’re willing to pay the price and you want a sexy looking PC then what’s the problem ?
@@ghostkilla931 so it doesn’t make sense for you because that’s not what you’re looking for, but it does for some people that wants a PC without having to build it or whatever
I'm here to say there are more than just cooling issues with the Corsair One a200. I've had mine less than 30 days and I'm in the process of returning it due to GPU failure. They're flawed and can't handle being used with a 4k monitor, struggle to cool properly, are overpriced, and their customer service sucks. End of story.
I agree the argument isn't as strong in this case with a regular pc. However if you think about cuerrent laptops that also may have severely undercooled hardware, can indeed be worse than a properly cooled lower tier one.
The entire video is summed up by a single 140mm fan can't cool as well as four 120mm fans. SHOCKER! Possibly the dumbest "comparison" videos I've seen.
"It's still over 300 fps, but this can be seen and felt in other cases... Let's go over to cinebench." I was kind of hoping for an example if a game it could be seen and felt in, not another bencbmark lol. In guessing that when this isn't running at 300 fps, it doesn't really have a CPU bottleneck, and so it's even less likely to be noticed...
RIGHT! I'm really disappointing they didn't try to rebuild the cooling on A1, yeah, nobody will do it in real world, but they would have actual 1:1 test with no "buts" :(
@@Dornacgove I guess realistically, you wouldn’t buy a 170mm cooler as most companies including Corsair will offer 120 240 360 480mm options. They could have went with a similar priced prebuilt as that is something a consumer might compare the Corsair one to.
@@amrrahmy123 the suggestion was to take the whole 170 cooler out of the Corsair and put it in the other case to test the exact same cooler with unrestricted airflow.
@@IanDresarie maybe from a scientific point of view, trying to understand the limitations of the corsair case, but realistically, you would purchase a 240mm cooler or 360mm with that cpu.
you got a micro center near you? if so then that will probably be your best bet for getting a card at MSRP. they have a 1 card per household (they were checking IDs) per 30 days in person. it's camping with a QR system on the weekdays which is when they usually get shipments (I showed up on a weekend when they got a shipment in but weren't supposed to). I see this way as superior to say Newegg shuffle and definitely better than the online free for all apocalypse we're in now. I mainly see it this way because you can't call a microcenter directly (all calls are routed to a customer service center somewhere in ohio i think) and they don't actually tell you the exact day they have shipments and it's a physical store in your local city VS an online store available to all (again, so far the cards are only available in person)
Can i ask you why you havnt saved money to upgrade your PC? A monitor is literally so easy to get, For starters. And we all know the brand new latest gen gpu, cpu, whatever is not gonna last long. Why start from scratch saving up again when you already need the upgrade.
Yeah man exactly, this is a very stupid video. No shit a bigger radiator will perform better and it's not even that significant difference in real life usage for most of us average users and gamers. It's a fair trade off
Personally, I don't think size or convenience when carrying it matter. I mean, are you really gonna bring a desktop computer around? Might as well get a laptop at that point, honestly it's just not worth the money
@@znefas sure, but this video is poorly written on many sides. He continues to brag about a "full throttle" (even in the thumbnail) and then talks about a 2.5-6% loss of performance . Is this even relevant ? To me it's just a boring, low quality video shooted more for editorial purposes than actual , genuine ideas. And tbh, video of this channel have become pretty boring in general
@@Geffry993 i didn't even finish the video, it was boring and compared a difference in performance which is irrelevant to most. As for the Corsair One, I think any system which heats up isn't great, I personally think that if you gotta get a noisy system to keep it under 70C° under full throttle, it's reasonable. My original comment was only talking about the fact that the Corsair One being "handy" is irrelevant, since you don't need a desktop to be handy.
@@znefas Sure one of the use cases would be portability but unsure if that is the primary. I would say that the small form factor is the main attraction point. My desk space isn't large and I really don't want a big case to stick out like a sore thumb in the room. As for cost, it's expensive but considering the price of GPU these days, few people will be able to build a similarly spec'ed unit with the same form factor cheaper. Not worth the money for you if you're strictly think about portability but for those who want a nice design in a small form factor in today's current market conditions, it's kind of hard to say no to it.
This is just perfect in terms of timing. I was really looking for this prebuild for past couple weeks and also had a few concerns about cooling performance.
It would be a nice experiment to try and find components of "lower" grade that can achieve the same performance given the thermal constraints. That way you can calculate how much extra money you are paying just so corsair can put RTX 3080 and Ryzen 9 in the box when you are getting (and paying for) lower performance than expected.
This exactly is why I spend on cooling and proper pc placement in my office with its own ac duct n filter, which has saved more on heating n ac and gaming than buying "top tier" products.
Most people buy prebuilts anyways. I try to tell everybody I know it's not hard to build their own but they all resorted to buying a prebuilt cause they are either scared or lazy. Or both.
It could be a grim future. They're already wanting to ban crypto mining wait till they restrict Gaming because of green energy limitations. Hope I'm wrong
@@kBitre wouldn't banning mining be a good thing? or at least give a restriction to how much w/h you can use? Guessing the companies that buy all the Gpu's will just pay their way out of it anyways though..
I literally had to buy pre-built because I knew that I would never be able to get a GFX card. Still had to spend some money on case fans and new CPU cooler. It is still better than waiting for the GFX card to arrive someday.
I feel like comparing an SFF system like the Corsair One to a mid tower is kind of unfair, I think it would have been more interesting if it was compared to another SFF system. Maybe something with the Phanteks Evolv Shift 2, SSUPD Meshlicious or even the NZXT H1.
Agreed. I would have liked to see it compared to a case of similar size but better airflow/radiator/ect. Four about 4 grand, I would hope that they've done the best possible in this form factor but it's hard to get an accurate picture unless the case sizes are roughly the same.
My friends have recently asked me advice for PC setups. ITX Case - High temps, some compimise for smaller. ATX - Lower temps, higher performance, more upgradable with more slots.
Every prebuilt review ever: “Thermals are trash” End of review. Crazy that after years and years of product reviews shitting on them over it.. manufacturers still refuse to design anything with an appropriate cooler and air flow.
I had a shitty prebuild in 2005 that came with a Pentium 4. Cooling was decent, it came already with dual channel memory, and lots of it, storage was fine.... Would be a bit like getting an i5-11600F, a GTX 1650 Super and 32 GB DDR4-3000 for under 700
Actually some prebuilts in australia are starting to feature mesh front cases... but ueah prebuilts are marketed to non savvy consumers so flashy looks sells better
Well to be fair, 170 rads would of be enough up to the very last processor generation. And the solution is probably obnoxiously loud fans or regular sized case, so this literally might be the best setup for the average customer.
@@wisnoskij also to be fair. The usual temps that these "crappy" heatsink solutions are still well within spec. Most people dont beleive that most ryzen cpus have a temp threshold if 90+ and in some cases for intel 100+. Do what you see fit but its getting rediculous when you see people with low 70 temps and still think its not safe and thier only solution is to put a 200 dollar cooling solution onto the cpu...
Huh. It's almost like packing a lot of water cooling into close proximity with each other and with their heat sources is ... a bad idea? Like that much thermal mass ... radiates ... heat? And in that teeny tiny case therefore traps it all together in a thermal battery? Hmmm... Yeah, sorry Linus, but no, I am not in any way surprised. I will however point out that BOOST CLOCKS are theoretical bonuses and not guaranteed performance. So as bad of an idea as Corsair One is, it's probably still well over the guaranteed baseline spec. But still a bad idea.
First- Why are you using Chrome instead of Firefox??? Second- Why aren't you doing something to cool down your PC??? If it's a laptop, get one of those laptop holders that has fans in it. If you are on a desktop, make sure there is no dust buildup, and add more fans if there is room. There is no good excuse for letting your PC cook itself to death...
Hi, one of the managers for the Corsair One here. Slight performance degradation is in line with what we saw tested against a reference system with, yes, a full fat 240mm radiator with two 120mm fans at a locked 1600RPM. For reference, C1 idles at 0-600RPM on the single system fan. We tune the fan speed to offer the best combination of acoustics and performance. Ryzen 3000 and 5000 are hypersensitive to their cooling solutions in how they turbo; if you run the fan full tilt like a Peterbilt all the time, you'll see the performance creep up. It's a very delicate balancing act and we erred on sacrificing a little perf for massive acoustic benefit. ALL THAT SAID. iCUE *should* let you manually increase the minimum fan speed to get some of that performance back if you're willing to sacrifice some noise to get there. Note that you can never run the fan *slower* than the default fan curve, but you can run it *faster.* If anyone is seeing odd fan control issues in iCUE on Corsair One, please reach out to our customer service.
I was actually very impressed by how small the performance difference was considering the massive difference in size. I think Linus was a bit overly critical, and should consider that the One is targeted to users that want something compact, portable if necessary and quiet. I think it's an incredibly cool little PC and the dual-radiator/single fan cooling system seems quite clever. I'm sure any other SFF builds of the same size would be hard pressed to get better thermals and low noise, unless they had a custom loop which is a completely different animal and would probably still not be able to compete on quietness.
I flip my laptop upside down and plug it into a monitor. Gpu stays around 76c. I use the laptop with a monitor upright and I hit 90c in a few minutes 😅
GPU at 65°C and CPU at 70°C at full load together but still manages to throttle everything below base specs because of powerlimit throttling. Yep... laptop gaming at it's best.
@@BionicXAngel really? Have you tried to force it to stay at max speed? Or by adjusting your min and max CPU power in Windows power manager? I have my computer set to always stay at its max speed by setting both the min and max CPU speed to 100%.
@@BionicXAngel Wow, how do you have so low temps? On all my laptops (I had 3, each from different vendor) idle temp was around 60-70*C and on load it was always 90*C with thermal throttling.
Zen 2 and 3 are extremely sensitive about temperature, their effective clocks start to be affected at relatively low temperatures. That is something I noticed when I got a 3900X and now is the same with the 5950X.
Also on Intel CPUs undervolting can give you MUCH lower temperatures and a very nice performance boost if you are limited by thermal or power limit throttling... I do not know how good AMD undervolts but all my Intel CPUs the last 10 years could undervolt a lot. My 8 core Xeon uses 220w in Cinebench at full speed 4,7Ghz all cores but undervolted max usage is 160w and it runs stable for months nonstop with no reboots at -0,110v setting. Same with my Macbook Pro, it runs rock stable with much less watt usage undervolted.
@@a64738 well intel cpus are a bit overvolted from the factory to ensure stability.But i dont think amd does that. That might be the reason his amd system crashed.
@@libraryofthoughts0 Yes i did. And what exactly was achieved that couldnt have been done by slapping a 360 AIO on the CPU of the prebuilt machine? It might be against "da rulez" but trust me, you totally CAN run a computer with its case open and some tubing dangling off of it.
@@a64738 AMD does not use the traditional method anymore. Ryzen 3000 and up uses Curve Optimizer now, a dynamic way to overclock or undervolt. It's the more advanced approach compared to static offset.
They didn't even use the cpu amd gpu from cosair one, maybe could be silicon lottery, narrowing marign. The testing is flawed, but they got time to make movie magic but forgot they had a video themselves on how cpu turbos these days.
They were the same model, but what I meant was that they would have just slapped a better cooler in the cosair one and then benchmark that to avoid any error due to differnce in silicom quality form one card to another.
The thing I found most surprising about the results is that it didn't actually make as big of a difference as I thought it would. This topic would have been better served by comparing the Ampere mobile GPUs across different laptops to show how the performance is so drastically different.
To me it seems fine that the Coirsair one throttles, that's what you expect for that form factor. I do think Corsair should inform the customer it will perform worse than larger systems, but that seems unlikely to happen.
I think a simple reverse in air flow should net a large difference. Draw air IN through the top, keep case pressure minimally positive, and exhaust out the sides through the radiators.
Does anyone else wish they would do more technical and interesting videos instead of these basic videos about simple concepts like thermal throttling and boosting behavior? I miss when they didn’t act like we were a bunch of Mac users who noting nothing about pcs, because let’s be honest- this channel is for nerds like us
I would like to see them water cool their entire warehouse using one custom bespoke badass loop. That's 10 parts guaranteed between designing the loop, sourcing the material, manufacturing parts with that beautiful new CNC machine, installing parts of it, fixing everything that goes wrong, etc. That's mint content right there, like the time they did that in that old house. My larger criticism regards the format of the scripts, they seem written for dummies. You'd think that after 10 years of LTT, or even just watching for 4 years, there wouldn't be many dummies anymore.
@@michelvanbriemen3459 yeah I’m not a fan of the scripted ones in general, I like how it used to be relatively unscripted They already did whole room water cooling though and that didn’t exactly work out…
3:28 I can imagine what the conversation with the editor was about it: - Linus, your frames before and after don't match - Oh shoot... - That's ok, I'll meme it up a bit
Honestly, I'm more perplexed about the RAM than the cooling. I've shopped of late for several friends building or upgrading PCs and it's been just as cheap to buy cl16 3600 as cl18 3200. I don't know why they would put such junk RAM in their ridiculously expensive little PC. There's no thermal consequences of using better parts. Tiny savings on their end in bulk?
I just color calibrated my monitor, and this video made me afraid I did it really wrong, but after watching it on 3 devices I understood that someone on Ltt screwed the color on this video
your absolutely right i had the same experience in my home-office now in the summer here in Mexico i use only AC 22 degrees Celsius and since the AC blows directly down on my table the thermals of the "ONE" have greatly improved And i still love the concept :)
For the thermostas: DIY one, seriusly. You need an arduino, a temperature sensor, a resistor and a relay/transistor/mosfet. The arduino takes power from the cables. To send a command to the heater the arduino adds the resistor as a load to the power wire with the relay/transistor/mosfet. Now you can use a brainbox to pick up that change in current. If you use a transistor/mosfet you can even set up patterns for different messages/data.
it's close to snake jazz but is actually part of Trey Parker phyche out in BASEketball - the one where he's cutting off his finger compare Linus at 6:38 to phyche out
and different CPU. this might have been had they just took all the parts out of the Corsair one and put them on a test bench or another case. or used the same parts but put all air cooling on them in a different case. this is a weird "clone" and a bad faith testing.
Why did you not mention that the corsair one only uses ONE fan! one fan to cool 2 radiators is realy inpressive Your clone pc had 3 fans in the front 2 or 3 on the radiator and 1 in the back. 6-7 fans vs 1 fan ?
New Title: Small form factor PC gets compared to much larger case. Like what the actual fuck is the point of this video? It makes 0 sense, the Corsair one is a tiny package that has little to no competition for its dimentions/specs as a pre built.
@@MASSIVEsock The point is that the retards at corsair are selling a product that does not perform as well as the spec sheet would make the average consumer believe and making them overpay for performance they will never see.
@@Jorge86295 Not a single person spending 5k USD for a One is buying it for balls to the wall, 452320.024 Trigahertz epic performance. They're getting it for an insanely small form factor. The raw performance this little thing has when not running at the bleeding edge limit is fantastic. If you had thermals mixed with raw performance at this size for the limit, it'd be like a 1660 super and a 5700x. Those two wouldn't even come close to what this thing can do under thermal limits.
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"I'm sure the results will surprise you"
Sooo...the Corsair one is faster? Because that would surprise me.
this aged poorly
@@ungamertipico7656 lol
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@@tomosima1992 lol
"I'm sure the results will surprise you"
- "Is it thermals?"
- "It's thermals."
Unyes’nt
Linus: "I'm sure the results will surprise you"
Me: Wow so the little one isn’t going to be slower and hotter!
Linus: The little one is slower and hotter.
@@shawnwalmer Linus kinda pulling some crazy reverse psychology bullshit right now.
judging the first impression : "Heck that thing's smoll... so how cool is the thermal rating i wonder"
Please do a behind the scenes on how you accomplished that incredible movie magic
Well, I am not sure. But here is a guess anyway, I know that Linus Media Group has a giant ass green screen. I think that Linus shot the clip of him standing and waiting with the screen and the clip of someone working with the Corsair Clone was shot separately. Later, the Corsair Clone clip was sped up and the clip of Linus standing was pasted on to it.
Or, I could be totally wrong and Linus is actually standing like that in real time. .
@@studentrry3878 actually, both clips look sped up. Other than that, your explanation seems correct.
I am not sure after transition the "sparkle" the footage cut to masking by recording Linus separately and merge to the video.
When the footage speeds up the masking replaces real Linus to the end of the clip.
I'm not sure probably Linus is standing all the clip he
@@studentrry3878 Or, It was done using actual Magic.
@@studentrry3878 hope you are just joking >.
I’ve seen an 11 minute video of Linus saying that the computer’s cpu is overheating and that with better cooling it would perform better.
If only I read your comment before I finished the video! But thanks anyways :)
Did I miss something, or is this 12 minutes of: "Corsair one thermal throttles"?
12 minutes of Linus doesnt know about ryzen thermal density, or how to correctly configure bios for a zen 3 chip
@@suprafastmafc If configuring the bios of a several grand all in one is needed to keep it from throttling, maybe corsair should have sent this one back to the engineering team
@@aidanquiett668 ong 🚀🚀
@@pleyco do not like your name
>50% of youtube videos are 1-2 sentences worth of information stretched out into 10 minutes or beyond
Alternate title: "Surprising nobody, cooling matters to performance"
Must appease the God Clicky McBaity
ua-cam.com/video/i0QLkLBdj8Y/v-deo.html ..
Knew what was going on as soon as I saw Corsair's cramped case in the thumbnail.
@@callistoarmy5576 no
"PC Specs are meaningless" > Proceeds to compare two systems with different specs. The case, motherboard and cooling solution are all part of the system specification and it is well known and documented that these affect overall system performance to varying degrees. (Even the RAM might have had different heatsinks even running the same timings, but i'm not sure if RAM throttles). Video is a waste of time, LTT has gone downhill.
Linus: Im sure the results will suprise you.
Me: *looks at the title*
You played yourself
@Tom Simons ᨆ Holy shit, stfu. You are everywhere.
@@BubblingOnion don’t click on those. Those are bots.
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"The results may surprise you."
The bigger PC had better cooling??? No way!!!
Meanwhile, as an undergraduate at the Buildzoid School of -Rambling- Hardware:
"Oh no! Not an Asrock motherboard."
@@InternetEntity yeah the as rock mobo killed it for me. At the price those things cost I better be getting a rog board! Anything better then asrock
hating on asrock is ultra soy
I know right?! As an avid watcher of Gamers Nexus I did not see the conclusion of this video coming as soon as I spied that choked off undercooled case! What a wild and unexpected ending!
desperate non story
I love how Linus is singing snake jazz while changing up the cooling
tss tsstss tss, tss tsstss
I read this comment before watching and thought you were exaggerating.... But Linus is low-key phenomenal at snake jazz
@@ulrar 🎷 🐍
YES SNAKE JAZZ
Was just about to say
If anything, this video just shows me how well engineered the corsair one is. I thought it would underperform compared to a full sized system by way more of a margin.
You’re done. You’re done.
But for how long? For me it was 14 months. It's not well engineered, it's total garbage and corsair support is worse than garbage. Mine had two major failures the boot SSD and the GPU. I wanted to pay corsair to renew my warranty or repair it, but they refused. It's the first time in 20+ years I felt compelled to file a consumer protection report because every other computer I've own lasted at least 8+ years with moderate to heavy use.
I love how Linus says "I'm completely sure the results will surprise you" after basically telling us what the results will be
Well I mean just looking at the thumbnail makes you say "It's the poor cooling isn't it" and then that's what it is.
I was actually surprised at how small the difference was in the end.
I was expecting something like 5800X and 3070 performance
clickbait at its finest eh? oh wait he even failed at that
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@@aemonblackfyre4159yeah I was expecting some 20% like that ram video.
Yesterday: Nvidia killed their own gpu's
This video: Specs are useless
Next video: Aluminum blocks are better than cpu's
I'll laugh hard if that actually happens.
@@shymekg
If such a thing does happen, I'm instantly unsubscribing cause now i can just look at the title and think "Yup, he doesn't like it."
What about a cardboard CPU with rgb leds glued on? :)
@@Johninadelaide2022 Yes because everyone knows RGB: 210% better fps
Specs are meaningless only when both systems are turned off.
This video is meaningless when to build an identical rig the GPU alone is almost $2k USD.
This is just a really long way of saying "Corsair One runs hot"
Yeah. A pointless video about nothing really.
@@Qlicky they have to downplay pre-build systems, its not good for their business.
@@013nil uhm last time I checked LTT was about component reviews which also apply to a prebuilt system and not about selling components...
And it does not matter if it run hot because performance is similar with some better options.
"small form factor pre buld runs hotter than system we build using a $400 AIO"
Last week: “Dirty PC Manufacturers’ tricks”
Now: *PC Specs are Officially Meaningless*
everyday we stray away...
So my old core 2 machine is still relevant ?
@@Parth_Soni just buy any pre owned 2060, pop that baby in there, and DLSS your way to glory
Next week: "How Amiga Did Raytracing Before Nvidia Invented It"
@@v01d_r34l1ty DLSS fucking sucks, I have a 2070 super and it really doesn't give me a big FPS boost. Like maybe 20 at the very most I've ever seen, but at a huge cost to visuals. The ghosting on DLSS or whatever you would call it is awful. Literally anything moving has trails behind it and it always makes the game look genuinely awful unless you upscale to 4k or some shit which defeats the purpose for just an FPS boost.
"This WILL surprise you!" -linus
"It's not surprising." -also linus
I thought the results were supposed to surprise me?
The small form factor PC with small radiators performs worse?
No Way....
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
"system that costs 50% with a $400 AIO cools better than the micro ATX build that is cheaper"
@@razerow3391 ITX* not micro ATX
@@razerow3391 It's an ITX build lol micro ATX is still way too big to fit in the Corsair One. But yeah doesn't changer what you're trying to say.
Wow. Have never seen a bigger deal made out of a non-issue. It's a super compact, itx pre-built that gives 97.5% of the performance of the full-ATX version. Seems great to me.
For that money. I want no bottlenecks. Your logic makes no sense
@@ghostkilla931 I mean his right… making components smaller can be expensive, plus the cost of building it. You would have get the same issues in a small form factor PC. And 2.5% decrease is nothing you can’t even notice it. Obviously it’s not a bang for the buck machine, but it’s not the point of it !!! If you’re willing to pay the price and you want a sexy looking PC then what’s the problem ?
@@ghostkilla931 so it doesn’t make sense for you because that’s not what you’re looking for, but it does for some people that wants a PC without having to build it or whatever
Yeah. If Linus hates it so much I'll take it off his hands
I'm here to say there are more than just cooling issues with the Corsair One a200. I've had mine less than 30 days and I'm in the process of returning it due to GPU failure. They're flawed and can't handle being used with a 4k monitor, struggle to cool properly, are overpriced, and their customer service sucks. End of story.
I love how Linus always sounds explaining things as if he just found out about it and now wants to share it with everyone
The title is making this out to be some sort of massive conspiracy when its just an undercooled cpu are you serious?
Alternative take, the corsair one manages to be within 4% of a full size build so that's a pretty well engineered box for its size.
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I agree the argument isn't as strong in this case with a regular pc. However if you think about cuerrent laptops that also may have severely undercooled hardware, can indeed be worse than a properly cooled lower tier one.
@@alangarde2928 that's not consistent. Results vary a lot depending on the load.
Welcome to linus "tech tips"
"She's a chonky boi."
I'm not sure if that was intentionally absurd, but it made me laugh.
I'm gonna go remove my comment now because we both had the same comment lol
Linus says trans rights
should have called her a landwhale
thats actually a spec/feature. the corsair one transcends gender. not that thats useful in a computer but its in there.
@@punishedarmsdealer8763 basado
*Linus:* a 240mm radiator performs better than a 170mm radiator
_Who would have thought!_
170 x 170 x 1 = 28900
120 x 120 x 2 = 28800
The 240 rad is about 0.3% smaller than the 170 rad
@@HappyBeezerStudios The clone's GPU was air cooled while the Corsair One is watercooled together with the CPU.
Not just a bigger radiator, but a bigger radiator in a bigger chassis with better air flow! MIND BLOWN
@@Fuzzel on the one the gpu and cpu both have their own rad they are not running on one rad
The entire video is summed up by a single 140mm fan can't cool as well as four 120mm fans. SHOCKER! Possibly the dumbest "comparison" videos I've seen.
"PC Specs are meaningless"
Laptop users: "Always have been"
"It's still over 300 fps, but this can be seen and felt in other cases... Let's go over to cinebench."
I was kind of hoping for an example if a game it could be seen and felt in, not another bencbmark lol. In guessing that when this isn't running at 300 fps, it doesn't really have a CPU bottleneck, and so it's even less likely to be noticed...
Linus: “I’m certain the results will surprise you”
Also Linus: “SFF has bad thermals”
me: *not surprised at all*
Bad SFF has bad thermals*
moving corsair one parts inside another case was more accurate test
yeah, comparing a 170mm in a small case vs a 240 mm radiator in a big case doesnt sound much fair. Thats incrase in cooling capacity
RIGHT! I'm really disappointing they didn't try to rebuild the cooling on A1, yeah, nobody will do it in real world, but they would have actual 1:1 test with no "buts" :(
@@Dornacgove I guess realistically, you wouldn’t buy a 170mm cooler as most companies including Corsair will offer 120 240 360 480mm options.
They could have went with a similar priced prebuilt as that is something a consumer might compare the Corsair one to.
@@amrrahmy123 the suggestion was to take the whole 170 cooler out of the Corsair and put it in the other case to test the exact same cooler with unrestricted airflow.
@@IanDresarie maybe from a scientific point of view, trying to understand the limitations of the corsair case, but realistically, you would purchase a 240mm cooler or 360mm with that cpu.
"PC specs are meaningless"
Me: * Struggling to buy even a Graphics Card * Yeah I agree
me: * struggles to get my new graphic cards running because I need to use a gt630 as video output becausey our monitor only takes vga *
yeah this 1060 is now doing 1440p gaming surprisingly well
you got a micro center near you? if so then that will probably be your best bet for getting a card at MSRP. they have a 1 card per household (they were checking IDs) per 30 days in person. it's camping with a QR system on the weekdays which is when they usually get shipments (I showed up on a weekend when they got a shipment in but weren't supposed to).
I see this way as superior to say Newegg shuffle and definitely better than the online free for all apocalypse we're in now. I mainly see it this way because you can't call a microcenter directly (all calls are routed to a customer service center somewhere in ohio i think) and they don't actually tell you the exact day they have shipments and it's a physical store in your local city VS an online store available to all (again, so far the cards are only available in person)
@@Sinaeb you don't need a new GPU, you need a new monitor first
Can i ask you why you havnt saved money to upgrade your PC? A monitor is literally so easy to get, For starters. And we all know the brand new latest gen gpu, cpu, whatever is not gonna last long. Why start from scratch saving up again when you already need the upgrade.
honestly the corsair one doesn't lose all that performances, yet the case is so small and handy
Yeah man exactly, this is a very stupid video. No shit a bigger radiator will perform better and it's not even that significant difference in real life usage for most of us average users and gamers. It's a fair trade off
Personally, I don't think size or convenience when carrying it matter. I mean, are you really gonna bring a desktop computer around? Might as well get a laptop at that point, honestly it's just not worth the money
@@znefas sure, but this video is poorly written on many sides. He continues to brag about a "full throttle" (even in the thumbnail) and then talks about a 2.5-6% loss of performance . Is this even relevant ? To me it's just a boring, low quality video shooted more for editorial purposes than actual , genuine ideas. And tbh, video of this channel have become pretty boring in general
@@Geffry993 i didn't even finish the video, it was boring and compared a difference in performance which is irrelevant to most. As for the Corsair One, I think any system which heats up isn't great, I personally think that if you gotta get a noisy system to keep it under 70C° under full throttle, it's reasonable. My original comment was only talking about the fact that the Corsair One being "handy" is irrelevant, since you don't need a desktop to be handy.
@@znefas Sure one of the use cases would be portability but unsure if that is the primary. I would say that the small form factor is the main attraction point. My desk space isn't large and I really don't want a big case to stick out like a sore thumb in the room.
As for cost, it's expensive but considering the price of GPU these days, few people will be able to build a similarly spec'ed unit with the same form factor cheaper.
Not worth the money for you if you're strictly think about portability but for those who want a nice design in a small form factor in today's current market conditions, it's kind of hard to say no to it.
This is just perfect in terms of timing. I was really looking for this prebuild for past couple weeks and also had a few concerns about cooling performance.
It would be a nice experiment to try and find components of "lower" grade that can achieve the same performance given the thermal constraints. That way you can calculate how much extra money you are paying just so corsair can put RTX 3080 and Ryzen 9 in the box when you are getting (and paying for) lower performance than expected.
This exactly is why I spend on cooling and proper pc placement in my office with its own ac duct n filter, which has saved more on heating n ac and gaming than buying "top tier" products.
Its a good day when Linus uploads
I agree.
So everyday
@@lzr0872 yeah LOL
@@lzr0872 indeed.
He literally uploads everyday. Sometimes more than one video if you consider all his 10000000 other channels.
"Thanks to movie magic..." Probably the best part of this whole video.
The only good part of the video.
This shit was a flop. Who knew, small form factor and thus less room for cooling leads to higher temperatures.
Can't wait till the market comes back to "normalcy" and we're not at the mercy of prebuilts again
Most people buy prebuilts anyways. I try to tell everybody I know it's not hard to build their own but they all resorted to buying a prebuilt cause they are either scared or lazy. Or both.
It could be a grim future. They're already wanting to ban crypto mining wait till they restrict Gaming because of green energy limitations. Hope I'm wrong
@@kBitre wouldn't banning mining be a good thing? or at least give a restriction to how much w/h you can use? Guessing the companies that buy all the Gpu's will just pay their way out of it anyways though..
@@charliewenthe4411 It's not good cause you should be able to use your hardware for what you desire
I literally had to buy pre-built because I knew that I would never be able to get a GFX card. Still had to spend some money on case fans and new CPU cooler. It is still better than waiting for the GFX card to arrive someday.
I feel like comparing an SFF system like the Corsair One to a mid tower is kind of unfair, I think it would have been more interesting if it was compared to another SFF system. Maybe something with the Phanteks Evolv Shift 2, SSUPD Meshlicious or even the NZXT H1.
Agreed. I would have liked to see it compared to a case of similar size but better airflow/radiator/ect. Four about 4 grand, I would hope that they've done the best possible in this form factor but it's hard to get an accurate picture unless the case sizes are roughly the same.
Especially considering they used a larger radiator for the CPU cooling. 170 mm VS. 240 mm is quite a big difference
My friends have recently asked me advice for PC setups. ITX Case - High temps, some compimise for smaller. ATX - Lower temps, higher performance, more upgradable with more slots.
"She's a chonky boi"
She's an ICON, Linus.
RATIO
Every prebuilt review ever: “Thermals are trash”
End of review.
Crazy that after years and years of product reviews shitting on them over it.. manufacturers still refuse to design anything with an appropriate cooler and air flow.
Well for something like the corsair one it's honestly not bad
I had a shitty prebuild in 2005 that came with a Pentium 4.
Cooling was decent, it came already with dual channel memory, and lots of it, storage was fine....
Would be a bit like getting an i5-11600F, a GTX 1650 Super and 32 GB DDR4-3000 for under 700
Actually some prebuilts in australia are starting to feature mesh front cases... but ueah prebuilts are marketed to non savvy consumers so flashy looks sells better
Well to be fair, 170 rads would of be enough up to the very last processor generation. And the solution is probably obnoxiously loud fans or regular sized case, so this literally might be the best setup for the average customer.
@@wisnoskij also to be fair. The usual temps that these "crappy" heatsink solutions are still well within spec. Most people dont beleive that most ryzen cpus have a temp threshold if 90+ and in some cases for intel 100+.
Do what you see fit but its getting rediculous when you see people with low 70 temps and still think its not safe and thier only solution is to put a 200 dollar cooling solution onto the cpu...
Huh. It's almost like packing a lot of water cooling into close proximity with each other and with their heat sources is ... a bad idea? Like that much thermal mass ... radiates ... heat? And in that teeny tiny case therefore traps it all together in a thermal battery? Hmmm...
Yeah, sorry Linus, but no, I am not in any way surprised. I will however point out that BOOST CLOCKS are theoretical bonuses and not guaranteed performance. So as bad of an idea as Corsair One is, it's probably still well over the guaranteed baseline spec. But still a bad idea.
Which is also why the 11400F is a 2.8 GHz CPU
6:28 When the sound editor calls in sick and you don't want to get a DMCA strike for music so you just wing it....
We've made an exact replica except, and except, and except.... that's not a clone... its a different pc.
"this CPU idols at around 50 degrees!" While I'm watching with my CPU at 70 running chrome
First- Why are you using Chrome instead of Firefox???
Second- Why aren't you doing something to cool down your PC??? If it's a laptop, get one of those laptop holders that has fans in it. If you are on a desktop, make sure there is no dust buildup, and add more fans if there is room. There is no good excuse for letting your PC cook itself to death...
@@SirReptitious there is. Money
@@SirReptitious my laptop's cpu gets to 90°. It's extremely common for msi stealth series for some reason
sad i3 2nd gen noises
@@Depl0rable10 thermal paste cost 5 bucks
Corsair Ones have always had thermal issues, going back to the originals. Nothing new with this one.
Just looking at it you can tell this thing is a little home radiator... who even buy those thing ?
Someone who wants a pc thats the size of an xbox series x.
I swear when he was talking about smelling something, I was expecting him to say it's the video sponsor.
"small form factors builds do tend to run hotter"
Looks at my SSUPD Meshlicious
NOPE!
Hi, one of the managers for the Corsair One here. Slight performance degradation is in line with what we saw tested against a reference system with, yes, a full fat 240mm radiator with two 120mm fans at a locked 1600RPM. For reference, C1 idles at 0-600RPM on the single system fan. We tune the fan speed to offer the best combination of acoustics and performance. Ryzen 3000 and 5000 are hypersensitive to their cooling solutions in how they turbo; if you run the fan full tilt like a Peterbilt all the time, you'll see the performance creep up. It's a very delicate balancing act and we erred on sacrificing a little perf for massive acoustic benefit.
ALL THAT SAID. iCUE *should* let you manually increase the minimum fan speed to get some of that performance back if you're willing to sacrifice some noise to get there. Note that you can never run the fan *slower* than the default fan curve, but you can run it *faster.* If anyone is seeing odd fan control issues in iCUE on Corsair One, please reach out to our customer service.
I was actually very impressed by how small the performance difference was considering the massive difference in size. I think Linus was a bit overly critical, and should consider that the One is targeted to users that want something compact, portable if necessary and quiet. I think it's an incredibly cool little PC and the dual-radiator/single fan cooling system seems quite clever. I'm sure any other SFF builds of the same size would be hard pressed to get better thermals and low noise, unless they had a custom loop which is a completely different animal and would probably still not be able to compete on quietness.
“PC Specs Are Officially Meaningless”
- A console gamer, probably
pc gamers: im going to spend like 2000 dollars on a pc to play the same games that are on a 300 dollar console
My PC Specs were officially meaningless like 8 years ago
ua-cam.com/video/i0QLkLBdj8Y/v-deo.html ..
If it's of use then it is not meaningless, I'm still on a 2600K with 8GB. Still works for me
3770 + GTX 960. So what I learned is I just need a bigger case to get 600 FPS.
And mine were meaningless 13 years ago (2008 macbook)
3570k that is massively holding back my 1060.
specs are indeed meaningless.
"PC specs are meaningless"
...
"Laughs in laptop cooling and power throttling"
I flip my laptop upside down and plug it into a monitor. Gpu stays around 76c. I use the laptop with a monitor upright and I hit 90c in a few minutes 😅
@@emperorfloch use a cooling pad then.
GPU at 65°C and CPU at 70°C at full load together but still manages to throttle everything below base specs because of powerlimit throttling. Yep... laptop gaming at it's best.
@@BionicXAngel really? Have you tried to force it to stay at max speed? Or by adjusting your min and max CPU power in Windows power manager? I have my computer set to always stay at its max speed by setting both the min and max CPU speed to 100%.
@@BionicXAngel
Wow, how do you have so low temps?
On all my laptops (I had 3, each from different vendor) idle temp was around 60-70*C and on load it was always 90*C with thermal throttling.
That Corsair PC is the perfect size. I don’t have the home real estate to have a big desk, so something like that would be perfect for me.
i tell you linus segways always make me smile, so corny but lightens ones day
Zen 2 and 3 are extremely sensitive about temperature, their effective clocks start to be affected at relatively low temperatures. That is something I noticed when I got a 3900X and now is the same with the 5950X.
"I'm sure the result will surprise you"
Me, a regular Gamers Nexus viewer: "naah, try harder next time, Linus"
I've never paid for a pre-built PC and I never will, it's always been like this.
LINUS just found out you're from NORTH AMERICA greetings from TORONTO we been w you from the jump! (that means beginning)
6:30 i didnt know that linus too was fond of snake jazz!
I haven't seen a gpu in my life. Still watching these videos😂
Same i dont even have a graphics card
"The only way to find out..." So, noone got the idea of slapping a beefier cooler on?
Did you even watch the video?
Also on Intel CPUs undervolting can give you MUCH lower temperatures and a very nice performance boost if you are limited by thermal or power limit throttling... I do not know how good AMD undervolts but all my Intel CPUs the last 10 years could undervolt a lot.
My 8 core Xeon uses 220w in Cinebench at full speed 4,7Ghz all cores but undervolted max usage is 160w and it runs stable for months nonstop with no reboots at -0,110v setting. Same with my Macbook Pro, it runs rock stable with much less watt usage undervolted.
@@a64738 well intel cpus are a bit overvolted from the factory to ensure stability.But i dont think amd does that. That might be the reason his amd system crashed.
@@libraryofthoughts0 Yes i did. And what exactly was achieved that couldnt have been done by slapping a 360 AIO on the CPU of the prebuilt machine? It might be against "da rulez" but trust me, you totally CAN run a computer with its case open and some tubing dangling off of it.
@@a64738 AMD does not use the traditional method anymore. Ryzen 3000 and up uses Curve Optimizer now, a dynamic way to overclock or undervolt. It's the more advanced approach compared to static offset.
“The same system… Except for the case, rad, motherboard, and memory”
So in other words, NOT the same system.
Motherboard is only about a 1% (if even) difference
They didn't even use the cpu amd gpu from cosair one, maybe could be silicon lottery, narrowing marign. The testing is flawed, but they got time to make movie magic but forgot they had a video themselves on how cpu turbos these days.
@@sMv-Afjal the cpu and gpu were tge same
They were the same model, but what I meant was that they would have just slapped a better cooler in the cosair one and then benchmark that to avoid any error due to differnce in silicom quality form one card to another.
Love seeing my case in builds. I swear every reviewer had nothing but good to say about it, then it never saw the light of day again XD
I may be they guy you did the jazz computer upgrade montage for...
Because I can't stop smiling xD
Very pink panther. Amongst other things!
1:58 Linus casually having lipstick on
Damn! I'm surprised that Linus knows we won't be surprised anymore by his sponsors
As a Mac user, this has been the standard for a very long time
Until I move into an apartment the size of a closet, I'll opt for a bigger case.
The thing I found most surprising about the results is that it didn't actually make as big of a difference as I thought it would. This topic would have been better served by comparing the Ampere mobile GPUs across different laptops to show how the performance is so drastically different.
PC Specs Are Officially Meaningless - Corsair One a200
Typing this before they change the title, if they do
Looking at they prefer PC Specs, they'll change it.
"She's a chonky boi"
*Society, 2021 colorized*
Women's Weightlifting Olympics 2021
industrial society and its future
Sounds like a classic Linus: Let's delid this CPU.
To me it seems fine that the Coirsair one throttles, that's what you expect for that form factor. I do think Corsair should inform the customer it will perform worse than larger systems, but that seems unlikely to happen.
I think a simple reverse in air flow should net a large difference. Draw air IN through the top, keep case pressure minimally positive, and exhaust out the sides through the radiators.
“Snake Jazz is MY JAM!!”
A few people will get it
it's close to snake jazz but is actually part of Trey Parker phyche out in BASEketball - the one where he's cutting off his finger
@@samuelmorris2869 dude what are you talking about?
@@fSoOoOl0070 do a search in YT for "baseketball phych outs" - BASEketball is a movie by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, creators of South Park
I'm always amazed at how smooth linus integrates promotions in the video
Does anyone else wish they would do more technical and interesting videos instead of these basic videos about simple concepts like thermal throttling and boosting behavior? I miss when they didn’t act like we were a bunch of Mac users who noting nothing about pcs, because let’s be honest- this channel is for nerds like us
@@TheHalfBorg haha yeah exactly that was so entertaining
At the end of a day its a business and they need to make content that gets views.
@@Matt_10203 I agree with that, but the videos I’m talking about did very well- all within the 1-8 million views range- most of them 3-4m
I would like to see them water cool their entire warehouse using one custom bespoke badass loop.
That's 10 parts guaranteed between designing the loop, sourcing the material, manufacturing parts with that beautiful new CNC machine, installing parts of it, fixing everything that goes wrong, etc. That's mint content right there, like the time they did that in that old house.
My larger criticism regards the format of the scripts, they seem written for dummies. You'd think that after 10 years of LTT, or even just watching for 4 years, there wouldn't be many dummies anymore.
@@michelvanbriemen3459 yeah I’m not a fan of the scripted ones in general, I like how it used to be relatively unscripted
They already did whole room water cooling though and that didn’t exactly work out…
sick smoke effects. you should give your VFX people a nice Christmas bonus.
3:28 I can imagine what the conversation with the editor was about it:
- Linus, your frames before and after don't match
- Oh shoot...
- That's ok, I'll meme it up a bit
Honestly, I'm more perplexed about the RAM than the cooling. I've shopped of late for several friends building or upgrading PCs and it's been just as cheap to buy cl16 3600 as cl18 3200. I don't know why they would put such junk RAM in their ridiculously expensive little PC. There's no thermal consequences of using better parts. Tiny savings on their end in bulk?
Expensive ram makes a difference!?
um it is Corsair it would use corsair ram which means they most likely used leftovers.
@@NCXitlali The recent AMD cpus get impacted slightly by ram speeds, i think he has a vid on it
That's prebuilts for you, cheapskating on absolutely everything
@@arnabkar8792 ... slightly? It is barely noticeable!!!!
I just color calibrated my monitor, and this video made me afraid I did it really wrong, but after watching it on 3 devices I understood that someone on Ltt screwed the color on this video
Unless you have a graphics card. That spec means money for later...or an empty wallet
or no food on the table
your absolutely right
i had the same experience in my home-office
now in the summer here in Mexico i use only AC 22 degrees Celsius
and since the AC blows directly down on my table the thermals of the "ONE" have greatly improved
And i still love the concept :)
The production quality and style of this video is top notch.
“She’s a chonky boi” - Linus 2021
There's nothing that's not 2021 about that sentence
If the cooling performance is bottlenecked by the heat transfer from the die, why does a larger radiator make a difference? (8:49)
More surface area to transfer heat from the radiator to the air
Small area benefits from cooler liquid to remove heat as much as possible. OBVIOUSLY
@@inteallsviktigt That would be true if the die heat transfer were not the limiting factor.
@@tristan7715 that’s because the Die area is not the bottleneck. The radiator bottlenecks before the die area on intel CPUs
POV: you came here to get the first comment but there’s already 100+
Lol true
Alternately: you dgaf about first comments.
OP is gay
same
200+ after just 6 minutes
For the thermostas: DIY one, seriusly. You need an arduino, a temperature sensor, a resistor and a relay/transistor/mosfet. The arduino takes power from the cables. To send a command to the heater the arduino adds the resistor as a load to the power wire with the relay/transistor/mosfet. Now you can use a brainbox to pick up that change in current.
If you use a transistor/mosfet you can even set up patterns for different messages/data.
3:32 I believe you mean, "through the magic of buying two of them"
Wait did Linus really just perform snake jazz
it's close to snake jazz but is actually part of Trey Parker phyche out in BASEketball - the one where he's cutting off his finger
compare Linus at 6:38 to phyche out
So I don't think we will be hearing "Brought to you by Corsair" for a while
So a different case, cooling, mobo and memory still makes it a clone? Yeah no
and different CPU. this might have been had they just took all the parts out of the Corsair one and put them on a test bench or another case. or used the same parts but put all air cooling on them in a different case. this is a weird "clone" and a bad faith testing.
@@calmterror Yeah this channel is going backwards quickly, why does UA-cam fame/money make people insufferable?
loved the movie magic bit hahaha your editors are humorous
6:29 snake jazz is my new jam
Now we have a Linus cushion, that means fans everywhere are farting on his face
Nice profile picture lmao
True fans are holding it in until they become a meme.
Just like the real thing.
"I'm absolutely sure the result will surprise you"
So that was a fucking lie.... Come on Lienus! :P
Lienus
Good one
I love this crusade LTT is on about holding vendors accountable and calling them out for their shit. Keep it up guys.
Thanks Linus very cool.
Maybe it's time for Anthony Tech Tips?
Absolutely none of the guys on swiss beatbox, can install a 240mm radiator whilst beatboxing ! Linus man of many talents
Why did you not mention that the corsair one only uses ONE fan!
one fan to cool 2 radiators is realy inpressive
Your clone pc had 3 fans in the front 2 or 3 on the radiator and 1 in the back.
6-7 fans vs 1 fan ?
@@rubenn7212 there are 2 fans on the 3080
"What won't surprise you-"
Is how I skip your segues.
I set my fast forward timing based on LTT adverts.
New Title: "Cases Matter - Should Prebuilts specify real world performance?"
New Title: Small form factor PC gets compared to much larger case.
Like what the actual fuck is the point of this video? It makes 0 sense, the Corsair one is a tiny package that has little to no competition for its dimentions/specs as a pre built.
@@MASSIVEsock The point is that the retards at corsair are selling a product that does not perform as well as the spec sheet would make the average consumer believe and making them overpay for performance they will never see.
@@Jorge86295 Not a single person spending 5k USD for a One is buying it for balls to the wall, 452320.024 Trigahertz epic performance. They're getting it for an insanely small form factor. The raw performance this little thing has when not running at the bleeding edge limit is fantastic. If you had thermals mixed with raw performance at this size for the limit, it'd be like a 1660 super and a 5700x. Those two wouldn't even come close to what this thing can do under thermal limits.
I own the Corsair One Pro with i7-7700 and 1080 Ti and it is just absurd how good the cooling is!
That Friendly AIO shot some sexy B Rolls I must say!