ONLY DUDE THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINED THE TORSION BAR CONCEPT…OUT OF 15 videos THAT I HAVE WATCHED….HOPE IT MAKES A LOT OF TUBES…HE HAS A GOOD MIND…SPEAKS WELL…and does not Kill it with Crazy obnoxious music….just good info….well edited.
I use to do alignments, every time someone tried to explain how the torsion bar works, I could never understand.... you said it so perfectly that now it all makes PERFECT sense.... thank you so much !! I have a '98 blazer and thanks to you, I now know what I need to do to make it a little more reliable I that sense !!! Thanks again !! 😊
I wasn’t ready. I had little expectations in the first 20 secs, then got wow’d. Great understanding of the concept and delivery of information. Now I’m going to go watch Breakfast Club.
Cranked my stock torsion bars all the way on my 02 sport trac, replaced all front suspension and got the shock extenders and it rides pretty damn good! I am very happy and i got another 1.5-2in in the front! Nice video explaining how the torsion key suspension works.
Thanks man! Bought a torsion bar suspended 2006 Chevy Avalanche with 6" lift kit installed. Truck rides like crap. Very harsh and bumpy. Installed new N3 Rough Country shocks. Still rides awful. Then spent months looking online for a simple explanation of effect of cranked torsion bars on ride quality. Couldn't find anything helpful. Your video answers everything. Now I hope to get better ride by cranking down my torsion bars. Amazing video. Thumbs up guy!!
@@motoforlyfe don't listen to him... You're no Scotty Kilmer. That's a good thing. I can tell the difference immediately... You are an intelligent individual with a higher-than-average ability to absorb technical information. You also have and apparently natural ability to convey all that technical jargon to those who don't have your assumed experience level... In a way it's easy to understand but leave nothing you guess about. And thank you for that. I have 25 years of shade tree mechanic experience and have never been in a situation to even have to think about the torsion bar adjustment. I'm working on a 98 Isuzu Rodeo 3.2 LS V6... Have you found that there is a general rule of thumb on how far you can safely lift it? All I'm looking to do is level it out on the new shocks of stock height. I just want to be able to squeeze a 31 or 32 in M/T under it. You know what? I'm just going to go outside and do it right now. And in my own thought process, I'm wondering if a very mild tightening of the torsion bars will stabilize the front end a little bit. Nothing is wrong with the front end... It's just the late 90s SUV with 170000 miles on it. I'll report back. Have to go have a safety meeting before picking up tools ;-) peace out. Thanks for the video.
Awesome explanation. I got a 2009 ford ranger about 6 months ago now and it came with 33s on it. I lnew nothing about lifts and trucks before purchasing this truck. I now realize that all the previous owner did is crank up the torsion bar to where rhere is absolutely no suspension left in the front and the cv axles and all other components are taking a huge hit. Ive been doing alot of research as to how to combat this and solve this issue. And im still not sure what the best option is. Im not too worried about cost as i wanna keep this truck for the foreseeable future. I just want it to be a comfortable ride, and good for off roading. What would you suggest i do to lift the truck? Thanks in advance
Very informative, if i would like to lift my truck I won't be doing it via tortion bar. My 04 Dakota was lifted when i bought it via tortion bar because there were no spare parts under there. the tires wore a little one on side but it wasn't horible and turning them was fine. unfortunately some asssshole on a cell phone smashed my beautiful not one rust spot 2004 dodge dakota SXT 4WD from behind and also shoved it into the other vehicle that was sitting at the light totally destroying it. the bed was shoved so far into the cab it was to much damage to fix. I loved that truck and how and the hell do you replace that with any amount of money because they just aren't out there for book price. I finally found a very nice 05 but as all dakota lovers know 04 was the last year for that generation. No more beautiful rounded fenders. I was thinking of lifting the 05 and i still might but it does ride so much nicer than the 04. almost buick like for a 4WD pick up truck. So maybe I'll just leave it. Your video was the most informative i have found after several days of searching. thank you, like and subscribe every video you post now. you earned it Brother.
I recently got a 95 Toyota T100 the front end is sagging and it does have a torsion bar but what I was thinking of possibly replacing the shocks they might be worn out and that's why its sagging... I had the same problem when I first got my 3rd gen 4Runner
love the video, My 80 Datsun 720 king cab height is like a 1" or 2" lower on the driver side than the pass side. Is all i do is tighten up the driver side to bring it up some, or do I have to pull the bar off and move the spline a notch over a turn on driver side to go up a little? I want to bring up the driver side to match the passenger side height
I have a 84 Datsun also. Just tighten the lower side torsion bolt and check alignment compared to passenger every 1 turn of the bolt until it matches. Also lift the front end with a jack before tightening or loosening. You always want the load off b4 changing it.
I have a 2004 dodge Dakota 2wd and I want to be able to fit 33s on it with no rub. I’m thinking a 2.5 inch rear block and I was hoping the torsion bar would be able to give me the 2.5 inches I need to level out my truck. Would that be possible without maxing the bar or no?
what if you want to lower a 4x4s ride height? i dont want to screw up my ball joints or other components. they make different keys for lowering (or so ive been lead to believe) will these work to lower the height without damage to other parts of the suspension? i dont go off road, i just use the 4x4 for better traction in snow on the roadways
I have a 97 explorer and just put lift shackles on her. The rear sits about 2” higher than the front. Is that okay? Or do will i have to crank the torsion bars to level it out.
Awesome video dude. I want to lift the front end of my ford ranger but not sure how to do it. Which would be better, torsion keys or a torsion bar crank?
Hi Robert, I would just go with a crank on the stock keys! In my experience going further than that will put too much angle on your CV joints and cause problems!
you neglected to list the #1 reason for getting that Explorer. They're the same frame / components as a Ranger so it's like working on the same rig. Since you're a Ranger guy it's like working on the same truck.
Hey how high on your black ranger I have a 2004 and I wanna lift it somehow either torsion bar or lifting kit but yours looks nice I want something like the black ranger
Great video! Thank you. Dumb question: how do you control front versus rear lift? Is that spring only located on one side of the torsion bar? Does that evenly distribute the lift across the front and rear of the vehicle? I really don’t like the squat rear look.
Dam bro! Thanks for the explanation, did you ever make the video of the lift? Just re did my whole front end on my Toyota pickup thinking of doing this
Hey Little Dirt Bike this is a great video. You did a great Job of explaining the torsion bar and how it works. This should really help people to understand how the torsion bar and the suspension works. Good to see another video from you. Now if we could get you to drive something else besides a Ford we would be doing good. LOL Just kidding. Have a great week!!!
So If I am about to get new shocks on a 97 stock Explorer and I want it lifted (slight lift about 4 inches)... I should lift via torsion bar bolts first then buy a little bit longer shocks?
Man I LOVE that Explorer, like I WANT that one, I've got two already but I love that one, and it's a V8 to boot, you'll find that V8 is the best Ranger based vehicle ever made, I've got one, stock motor, silent at 276K.
@@motoforlyfe I've had several, had one I got and wrecked it, then got a rough SOHC V6, then I picked up a V8 for $200, which I've driven to 276K and I wouldn't sell for a grand if the money was in front of me, it's loud and ragged out in a lotta ways but I drive it everywhere. I liked it enough I elected to V8 swap the rough V6 since the body was mint on that one, and no rust anywhere, never seen salt. The V6s aren't too bad, I bought a SOHC one out the junkyard for $400, sold for $1000, and it's still running around all over the place. I swear by these trucks V6 or V8, but a V8 like you've got is a SCORE.
Hey man! I need some help! I’m trying to lift my 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 4wd. There aren’t any lift kits that are a reasonable cost! Is there any other way other than torsion keys and body lift?
Hey HD, any luck finding a lift for the '04? I have an '05 with IFS (4WD). Mine doesn't have the coil spring, just the shocks and torsion bar. I want to retrofit to carry a camper. A coil and shock would probably add to height and weight capacity- if only one could be bolted on. I feel the front end in too light for heavy weight. I've been searching but no info found so far. Any ideas?
You have to use torsion bars on the front of every vehicle. Duu why did you not exeplain that? You can't compare torsion bars to any other suspension they are special suspension for the front of vehicles only because you can't put leaf springs or any other suspension there
ONLY DUDE THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINED THE TORSION BAR CONCEPT…OUT OF 15 videos THAT I HAVE WATCHED….HOPE IT MAKES A LOT OF TUBES…HE HAS A GOOD MIND…SPEAKS WELL…and does not Kill it with Crazy obnoxious music….just good info….well edited.
He literally explained it perfectly, therefore I subscribed. Thank you.
This is an EXCELLENT explanation of torsion bars and how they work. I learned a LOT just from watching this video. THANK YOU!
Thanks for watching!
Best explanation for pros and cons of torsion bar lift that I have found on UA-cam. Thanks.
I am so impressed with this video. Thanks for the info. I purchased a lift kit with torsion keys and now I’ve changed my mind
i almost did the same thing. Truck runs and handles perfect. why the hell ruin it.
I use to do alignments, every time someone tried to explain how the torsion bar works, I could never understand.... you said it so perfectly that now it all makes PERFECT sense.... thank you so much !!
I have a '98 blazer and thanks to you, I now know what I need to do to make it a little more reliable I that sense !!!
Thanks again !! 😊
You explained this perfectly for what I was wanting to know, thanks.
I wasn’t ready. I had little expectations in the first 20 secs, then got wow’d. Great understanding of the concept and delivery of information.
Now I’m going to go watch Breakfast Club.
a cool guy with cool shades gives me a good information about suspension.
Yes he did. Very good and proper information. Best i had found and finally the truth instead of bull shit posers.
Finally someone who clearly explained how it works
Cranked my stock torsion bars all the way on my 02 sport trac, replaced all front suspension and got the shock extenders and it rides pretty damn good! I am very happy and i got another 1.5-2in in the front! Nice video explaining how the torsion key suspension works.
Outstanding. I did not know what torsion bars did exactly...now I do.
Thanks man! Bought a torsion bar suspended 2006 Chevy Avalanche with 6" lift kit installed. Truck rides like crap. Very harsh and bumpy. Installed new N3 Rough Country shocks. Still rides awful. Then spent months looking online for a simple explanation of effect of cranked torsion bars on ride quality. Couldn't find anything helpful. Your video answers everything. Now I hope to get better ride by cranking down my torsion bars. Amazing video. Thumbs up guy!!
Love the explanation! Simple and accurate!
Yes video was imformative and after a few minutes you gave promised information you did help some people who watched the video thanks
Thank you for explaining this correctly,thats hard to find these days
I know this video is a few years old but this just answered a question i was trying to find out. thanks
Good job, man. Great explanation.
this was the video I was looking for lol, thanks man much appreciated !
Future Scotty Kilmer!
Haha thanks buddy!
@@motoforlyfe don't listen to him... You're no Scotty Kilmer. That's a good thing. I can tell the difference immediately... You are an intelligent individual with a higher-than-average ability to absorb technical information. You also have and apparently natural ability to convey all that technical jargon to those who don't have your assumed experience level... In a way it's easy to understand but leave nothing you guess about. And thank you for that. I have 25 years of shade tree mechanic experience and have never been in a situation to even have to think about the torsion bar adjustment.
I'm working on a 98 Isuzu Rodeo 3.2 LS V6... Have you found that there is a general rule of thumb on how far you can safely lift it? All I'm looking to do is level it out on the new shocks of stock height. I just want to be able to squeeze a 31 or 32 in M/T under it.
You know what? I'm just going to go outside and do it right now. And in my own thought process, I'm wondering if a very mild tightening of the torsion bars will stabilize the front end a little bit. Nothing is wrong with the front end... It's just the late 90s SUV with 170000 miles on it. I'll report back. Have to go have a safety meeting before picking up tools ;-) peace out. Thanks for the video.
Wonderful I love how you showed us
Wow. What a great explanation!
Thanks so much, I appreciate it!
Great description. Still don’t know if I want a kit or a t lift but great video!
Now that was very informational.
Awesome explanation. I got a 2009 ford ranger about 6 months ago now and it came with 33s on it. I lnew nothing about lifts and trucks before purchasing this truck. I now realize that all the previous owner did is crank up the torsion bar to where rhere is absolutely no suspension left in the front and the cv axles and all other components are taking a huge hit. Ive been doing alot of research as to how to combat this and solve this issue. And im still not sure what the best option is. Im not too worried about cost as i wanna keep this truck for the foreseeable future. I just want it to be a comfortable ride, and good for off roading. What would you suggest i do to lift the truck?
Thanks in advance
Very good info thanks for keeping it simple. Good video!
Great video. Would changing the key relieve the angle on the drive shaft?
thanks for that, you helped me to understand it better
Very informative, if i would like to lift my truck I won't be doing it via tortion bar. My 04 Dakota was lifted when i bought it via tortion bar because there were no spare parts under there. the tires wore a little one on side but it wasn't horible and turning them was fine. unfortunately some asssshole on a cell phone smashed my beautiful not one rust spot 2004 dodge dakota SXT 4WD from behind and also shoved it into the other vehicle that was sitting at the light totally destroying it. the bed was shoved so far into the cab it was to much damage to fix. I loved that truck and how and the hell do you replace that with any amount of money because they just aren't out there for book price. I finally found a very nice 05 but as all dakota lovers know 04 was the last year for that generation. No more beautiful rounded fenders. I was thinking of lifting the 05 and i still might but it does ride so much nicer than the 04. almost buick like for a 4WD pick up truck. So maybe I'll just leave it. Your video was the most informative i have found after several days of searching. thank you, like and subscribe every video you post now. you earned it Brother.
I recently got a 95 Toyota T100 the front end is sagging and it does have a torsion bar but what I was thinking of possibly replacing the shocks they might be worn out and that's why its sagging... I had the same problem when I first got my 3rd gen 4Runner
Great job with the explanation
great post, thanks for sharing. please keep uploading.
Thank you, I'm glad you found it helpful!
Isn't the torsion bar going to suffer from metal fatigue sooner or later ?
Brilliant video
Thanks! I didn’t know any of this.
can the torsion bar cause a float\bounce in the front end while driving thru dips in the road or bumps ?
Well explained. Thanks!!!
love the video, My 80 Datsun 720 king cab height is like a 1" or 2" lower on the driver side than the pass side. Is all i do is tighten up the driver side to bring it up some, or do I have to pull the bar off and move the spline a notch over a turn on driver side to go up a little? I want to bring up the driver side to match the passenger side height
I have a 84 Datsun also. Just tighten the lower side torsion bolt and check alignment compared to passenger every 1 turn of the bolt until it matches. Also lift the front end with a jack before tightening or loosening. You always want the load off b4 changing it.
I have a 2004 dodge Dakota 2wd and I want to be able to fit 33s on it with no rub. I’m thinking a 2.5 inch rear block and I was hoping the torsion bar would be able to give me the 2.5 inches I need to level out my truck. Would that be possible without maxing the bar or no?
Not with stock keys but aftermarket ones definitely
what would be the best way to stick with a stock torsion system but eliminate or lessen the bad ride quality?
Take the bolts out that he was talking about cranking and do a body lift. In theory it should ride like a Cadillac.
what if you want to lower a 4x4s ride height? i dont want to screw up my ball joints or other components. they make different keys for lowering (or so ive been lead to believe) will these work to lower the height without damage to other parts of the suspension?
i dont go off road, i just use the 4x4 for better traction in snow on the roadways
great video
I liked the ratchet example very good example
I have a 97 explorer and just put lift shackles on her. The rear sits about 2” higher than the front. Is that okay? Or do will i have to crank the torsion bars to level it out.
Awesome video dude. I want to lift the front end of my ford ranger but not sure how to do it. Which would be better, torsion keys or a torsion bar crank?
Hi Robert, I would just go with a crank on the stock keys! In my experience going further than that will put too much angle on your CV joints and cause problems!
Is it possible to do this without jacking up the truck?
you neglected to list the #1 reason for getting that Explorer. They're the same frame / components as a Ranger so it's like working on the same rig. Since you're a Ranger guy it's like working on the same truck.
My chevy colorado 2005 going over a speed bump will bottom out. It has no coil springs only shock absorber. Not sure what s wrong
Hey how high on your black ranger I have a 2004 and I wanna lift it somehow either torsion bar or lifting kit but yours looks nice I want something like the black ranger
Great video! Thank you. Dumb question: how do you control front versus rear lift? Is that spring only located on one side of the torsion bar? Does that evenly distribute the lift across the front and rear of the vehicle? I really don’t like the squat rear look.
You need to add shackles to the rear to even it out. Simple and cheap..
Dam bro! Thanks for the explanation, did you ever make the video of the lift?
Just re did my whole front end on my Toyota pickup thinking of doing this
Hey Little Dirt Bike this is a great video. You did a great Job of explaining the torsion bar and how it works. This should really help people to understand how the torsion bar and the suspension works. Good to see another video from you. Now if we could get you to drive something else besides a Ford we would be doing good. LOL Just kidding. Have a great week!!!
Thanks glad you liked it, I was hoping I made everything clear!
If I losen the bars will that make my ride smoother without wearing out shit
Like the video man. Going to check out more. I just put 31" mud tires on now I'm wanting to lift it cheaply lol
31s pfff weak just got set of 34s super swampers
Best explanation 🔧
You gotta use Ranchos they're made to accommodate up to 2" lift.
So If I am about to get new shocks on a 97 stock Explorer and I want it lifted (slight lift about 4 inches)... I should lift via torsion bar bolts first then buy a little bit longer shocks?
Will u need an alignment after twisting the torsion bar?
An alignment is recommended, otherwise your tires may wear unevenly.
What causes squeaking even though all front end parts have been changed?
Check your upper ball joints
anything 😂
Where is the video where you install the torsion bar lift?
Man I LOVE that Explorer, like I WANT that one, I've got two already but I love that one, and it's a V8 to boot, you'll find that V8 is the best Ranger based vehicle ever made, I've got one, stock motor, silent at 276K.
Thanks, glad you like it! The fact that it's Ranger based was definitely another selling point for me
@@motoforlyfe I've had several, had one I got and wrecked it, then got a rough SOHC V6, then I picked up a V8 for $200, which I've driven to 276K and I wouldn't sell for a grand if the money was in front of me, it's loud and ragged out in a lotta ways but I drive it everywhere. I liked it enough I elected to V8 swap the rough V6 since the body was mint on that one, and no rust anywhere, never seen salt. The V6s aren't too bad, I bought a SOHC one out the junkyard for $400, sold for $1000, and it's still running around all over the place. I swear by these trucks V6 or V8, but a V8 like you've got is a SCORE.
😂😂😂 Exploder lol... I got a 1998 chevy blazer, 4.3 V6 Vortec... kept up on maintenence and I'm pushing 400k miles, still haven't rebuilt it.
Awesome information ever
THANKS, I rebuilt my frount end , But now it's a bumpy ride , I must have put to much tension on the bars ....
new shocks, bushings and new torsion bars/keys might helps max that is ok, is about 2 inches from what I have seen around the web.
Super informative
Yea buddy, I'm subbed!!!! ;)
Thanks buddy!
You got it!!!! ;)
Hey man! I need some help! I’m trying to lift my 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 4wd. There aren’t any lift kits that are a reasonable cost! Is there any other way other than torsion keys and body lift?
Hey buddy I don't know a whole lot about dodges but I don't think you'll find a cheaper way than either of those two options!
Hey HD, any luck finding a lift for the '04? I have an '05 with IFS (4WD). Mine doesn't have the coil spring, just the shocks and torsion bar. I want to retrofit to carry a camper. A coil and shock would probably add to height and weight capacity- if only one could be bolted on. I feel the front end in too light for heavy weight. I've been searching but no info found so far. Any ideas?
good explanation
@motoforlyfe
- Good explanations!
You can't Adjust CBJ without A lift?
Them explorers are good suvs
Hey Bill, aren't you and your dad doing the pumpkin chunking any longer, haven't heard you mention it any more?
Yeah we still do it, they had one in New Hampshire a few weeks ago!
You should record that for your channel, I think it would be good for your channel , plus they are fun to watch
For sure I miss watching it on TV
You can put seats in the extended cab.
Nice 👍🏾
The only ppl that disliked the video are too stupid to understand what he’s saying🤣. Great explanation man!
Make it to 17K!!! 👍👍🔥🤘
well done
Are you gonna off road the explorer?
Definitely! Not sure how wild I'll be getting since it's 2wd but the limited slip rear should help!
Darn was hoping you’d go with that 89 degree camber 😂
We ain't done yet!
very informative thank you! helps on my 2001 ford explorer sport lol
You remind me of Dale Gribble.
You have to use torsion bars on the front of every vehicle. Duu why did you not exeplain that? You can't compare torsion bars to any other suspension they are special suspension for the front of vehicles only because you can't put leaf springs or any other suspension there
Don't turn up stock keys, aftermarket keys are cheap
U can sleep back there as well.
Some times tents suck in bad weather rather put the seats down an sleep inside
As Mechanic gives a great is lame term explanation to lifts and suspension alone
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?????????
Great video
good explanation