Fishing vessel Linda's Draw capsizes in storm in Gulf of Alaska. Vessel Alaska Eagle videos event and rescues 3 fishermen. Survivors brought to Cordova. www.deweywhetsell.com
I was the USCG Accident Investigator on this capsizing incident back in 1988 and Interviewed the survivors and crew of tender and flew out to Montague Island to craw aboard the Linda’s Draw after it came ashore as a total wreck. Vessel had fuel management issues, weight management issues, too much weight aloft, skiff shifted to port and loosely secured. Excellent work from Tender crew who saved the lives of Linda’s Draw crew. Vessel was heading north following the Herring Sac Roe Fishery in Southeast Ak. to PWS. This was a big money fishery back in the day before EV Spill in 1989 and then it all collapsed. I also was Lead Investigator on EV Grounding a year later.
It did look like he was dead in the water for quite a while there and took on a good deal of water. I was wondering if his engine compartment had flooded.
I was fishing on an identical boat as this one and had gotten across the Gulf of Alaska just a day ahead of those guys. I worked with the boat owners son who was driving this boat. I’m thankful they all made it.
Should have been towning the skiff and the boom down i was down in south east ak and took a rouge wave over the stern and rilled left almost didn't correct
@@mbwelsh65 rogues are very hard to capture - the name says it all, random, fairly rare, and *always* unexpected. Sailing on a submarine tender, headed to Adak to meet a submarine for a remote refit, we hit a storm in the Gulf of Alaska, and we were taking green water over the flight deck, some 30 feet above the nominal waterline. Weather like that, everyone stays inside the skin of the ship as much as is possible, so not a lot of cameras available to capture the moment, either.
I grew up on fishing boats. My family's history on the ocean goes back over 150 years. Have lost many friends over the years. What use to be caught along the shoreline you need to go out 200 miles to catch today. If you are not a believer the ocean can make you cry to God to save you. Total respect to anyone that goes to sea for a living!!
I am a trawler Skipper and that was an unnecessary event. In those waves you keep your bow headed into them as a first choice for safety, especially with a transom stern.
@Jon Davis anywhere from 100k to over 500k per year and most only actively work about 4 months a year and then can get unemployment for the rest of the year. They work hard for their money, but they do make alot of it; A fisherman's son whose dad was lost to a fishing accident in 1988 when I was only 16......
Every time we sit down to eat a chunk of fish, it's worth remembering that men go out in mountainous seas to catch that food. It truly is the last, great frontier and those guys have more balls than 90% of the rest of us!
@@yaboycoconuthead7012 Yeah, what a silly analogy. Hard working men and women risking their lives to earn a living and feed people versus reckless fools with too much money and too much time on their hands cheating death for bragging rights. Talk about a false equivalency.
You know the crew of the boat that capsized must have felt like their time had come. I've been out in heavy swells but never in seas like this in a fishing boat. The feeling of biting off more than you can chew and trying to survive is something that makes my.heart go to this crew and the crew that rescued them.
that is exactly how it feels, I got caught in 70 knots and 15 meter seas and made my peace with god survived due to luck, seamanship and a bloody strong boat rig
When the weather gets ugly, and the waves get too high, you literally start questioning your life choices. Out to sea, there have been a few occasions where I literally asked myself what the hell I was doing out there. The VAST majority of the time, though, it's a great place to be and an amazing experience. Of course, walking on the bulkheads, wondering if the ship was going to roll upright *this* time, is pretty amazing too. Just, not in a fun way.
Our seiner was in the same storm, heading into Prince William Sound for the Herring season. Actually saw the video in Cordova on the Alaska Eagle when they got into town. The main reason it was floundering so bad was because the seine (net) was in the fishhold without the bin boards in, causing it to shift weight over to port. Also the skiff had shifted to port creating even more stability issues..
Nothing is more scary than the ocean. I can't imagine being stranded in the middle of it. Especially at night. Second fear is lost in the forest. It is also not fully explored.
Have you actually went down because unless your like 90 then it’s extremely rare for a navy ship to sink these days. So the whole navy part doesn’t really matter
Angela Falsetta Ted Morehouse and crew. On the Alaskan eagle. He found this seiner on a distress call and a rough position before the days of gps. What a incredible feat . Ted is forever a hero for this and many other rescues. He always had a standing rule , if a distress call came across the radio and you could get to them , you did . Period. He still plugs around on the Lois Anderson and island trader. Neat guy .
If you've fished for long, you are kind of ready for almost anything. We did a few rescues. We were also involved in a search for missing fisherman. It gets scary in a hurry. There were several things the Skipper on that boat could have done differently, and probably been alright, but fortunately, there were people out there to save them.
I am from copper center and grew up going out on a 300ft tender commercial fishing with Ted Moorehouse. He rescued a crew that capsized in the early 90s. It aired on Good Morning America. Takes an incredible amount of courage to fish our waters and rescue people.
I remember watching an original copy of this video on VHS as a kid. I believe the Linda's Draw was leaving the Sitka Sac Roe herring fishery for the Togiak Sac Roe fishery in March. I think it was a combination of poor fuel allocation and the skiff broke loose putting the weight on the port side. That line, "Okay, start picking people out of the water!" has been in my head since I was little.
The year was very good for fishing industry in Alaska. I was in college and got information about fishing in Alaska in needed seamen, it said for few months the season you could eared $50K or $70K. Very attractive ads, but my father said your education would last longer for future earnings. Beside, we have five big fishing vessels in South Vietnam before 1975. Our family had been in fishing business for very long time. Very difficult works and extreme environment when bad weather at sea.
I was on a 53ft ketch in a gulf storm with seas far bigger than that in 1980. The boat behind us lost 2 overboard never recovered. I love the comment the crew mate said about not being on a sail boat. A strong 40-50ft sail boat with a good skipper would have been fine in those seas. That skipper needs to have his certification pulled.
Crazy stuff. Have a friend who ran a skiff off Kodiak through the 70s and 80s. Has all sorts of crazy stories of living there all year round. Thanks for sharing and stay safe out there :-)
This happened just outside of the entrance to Prince William Sound. Boat was bound for Cordova. I'm from there and from what i know about this incident (just things I heard from my Dad and other fishermen) the owner of this boat had his son running it. The guy was scared (of course) and kept too much power on. This is not unusual. You want to just get inside shelter and out of the storm. Hard to deny adrenaline and slow down. Many times if you just pull back on the throttle in deep sea conditions you reduce risk considerably. Also, they had the jitney on deck, and it filled up with water, plus they had the boom up with the power block on it. This all caused too much weight too high on the vessel, reducing stability. This is just what I've heard. The video seems to confirm this, but I wasn't there so I may be wrong.
I fished and skippered in AK in the 80's and 90's. This boat is a seiner, probably 58', the same type I worked. I also took that boat through the Gulf geared for blackcod and halibut off Seward and Kodiak. It's pretty obvious that they have lost most of their main engine power - there's a little prop wash showing, but not enough to maneuver in those conditions. I don't know how they got themselves into this situation, but I see some major mistakes on the part of the skipper/crew. 1 - it's common in fair weather to haul the skiff up on deck for travel, but when the weather starts looking shitty, you get the skiff off the deck and tow it to lower the center of gravity. I'd guess an average skiff weighs a couple of tons. Like I said, I don't know the circumstances here, so I don't know why it was still on deck. I notice also that it's shifted to port like it wasn't tied down good enough to begin with. It's making the whole boat list. 2 - Another strategy in a seiner when you know you're about to get your butt kicked is to lower the main boom and the block down to the main deck and winch it down tight, further lowering your center of gravity. I wouldn't guess the weight of the boom and block, but your're talking a huge chunk of thick steel tube and a heavy block all the way at the top of it. AK seiners have combinations of lead, concrete, and steel in the keel that makes them like Weebles. Remember the old kid's toy? Weebles wobble but they don't fall down? Same concept. Although lowering the boom can make the period of righting quick enough to be uncomfortable for the crew, it keeps you away from laying over so far for so long that any subsequent waves can pound you down. Two more things I wonder about - It looks like they have two (either picking or stabilizer) booms that are still up. No matter what they are, they should be down also, and rigged tighter, not flopping around. The other thing is that they seem awfully high in the water. Don't know what fishery they were doing, but "if" they had a seine, it should have been in the bottom of the hold and not on deck before they left for a trip in the Gulf. Also by '88 many boats had been converted from the old dry-holds to refrigerated wet-holds, where the fish hold is filled with refrigerated sea water. This boat is one of two things - running an empty wet-hold or one of the old dry-holds. Been there, done that, so many times I can't count.
You commentary ties in with what we "landlubbers" can observe in the video; and your years at the helm are valuable in teaching even experienced boat-men how to plan their voyage when a storm warning is issued. Do you actively mentor young crewmembers, or teach seamanship? Might save some lives if you did, and that would be a good thing.
+dav snow - I've long since left the AK fishing fleet. Fish prices bombed in the late 80's and early 90's and I opted out. Not sure if that was a smart move or not, but it is what it is. During my years in fisheries that seem to be related to this video, we did a lot of transitions from safe water to dangerous water. My original comment just outlines the things we did to be safe on this type of boat. (Or maybe just did so we could get the the next fishery and make a lot of money, lol). Thank you for your reply dav.
+dav snow - Did some Googling. Here's the scoop, mostly just reinforces what I gathered from the video. From www_ dot_soundingsonline.com/dispatches/290900-fishing-boat-capsizes-sinks: "There was never a mention of engine trouble, running on auxiliary power, or not having sufficient power to maintain steerage. (Ok I could have gotten that wrong, hard to tell from the video) The transom of the seine skiff and the seine net had shifted to port, depressing that side. (Noted in original comments) The boat had an empty hold, except for the net. (Noted in original comments) The seine block had not been lowered to the deck to reduce the center of gravity. (Noted in original comments) The boat was not designed to handle those conditions. (Well, that's hard to definitely state. Yes, an AK limit seiner is likely to be a bit small in the Gulf; But - If hardware-outfitted properly, then set up, and skippered properly, it's not a big deal. There were many days in the Gulf that I was thankful for having a little boat. Because of the wave period and height, I watched many larger boats just simply get their ass kicked with some of the storms. Bang, Bang, Bang, I saw them getting hammered and felt sorry for all on board, but on my little boat, we just bobbed like ducks). The owner of the boat (in Cordova) had called the skipper and urged him to cross the Gulf of AK from Icy Bay to Prince William Sound, even though the weather conditions were bad. The rest of the seine fleet decided to wait out the weather in Icy Bay. The skipper hand steered for many hours and was exhausted. He turned the helm over to an inexperienced crew member who decided to engage the auto pilot, and within a few minutes the boat broached and went over."
+deadfish86 I just read that page - made a small correction in the URL and found it - thanks for that, and hope young folks watching this avoid similar dilemmas on the oceans.
Dear God. I grew up on lake Erie. One man's heavy seas is another's typical day. That video made my eyes tear up. Wow, such power in our oceans and great lakes. God bless those who find themselves in rough seas, be it in a 14ft Utility boat on an inland lake, or a 180ft Trawler.
The Great Lakes aren’t shit compared to the sea conditions that are faced in the oceans and gulfs. Ships sink in the Great Lakes due to inexperienced capts and shitty designed vessels
Cool kettle of fish there, good job on saving your buddies. I guess the capsized ship had lost its power for some reason, getting hit sideways by those mothers of a wave sucks big time.
My brother was on the Loch Lein which sank in the Tasman Ocean in 1988 in similar sea's ... FV being operated by Simunovich out of Auckland at that time .... dangerous job .. good result.
Every time I've seen this, I always wonder, Why weren't they jogging? Even "tanked down" (fish holds flooded to to provide weight and raise metacentric height), both of those skippers had to know how prone to surfing and broaching a purse seiner can be. Linda's Draw seems to be taking these seas on her quarter, the worst possible direction. The boat will surf, become uncontrollable as she exceeds her hull speed, then "head up and broach". The nautical term for that situation is, "Fucked".
Do you find that generally your not very solid? I have a few friends like that and it really limits their abilities. Hopefully you have a solid group of friends around you
This footage really gives a more truthful depiction of how violent the water surface is.. it's waves from every which way and the amount of movement on the filming vessel is conveyed too.
Fuckin A.... As a guy who grew up on the water, former EMT and prior service Coast Guard this video hits home. It happens so fast. Makes my heart race. Good video, thanks for sharing. Sorry about the boat, glad your friends made it home.
Honest hard working people like these fishermen working in extreme weather conditions risking their lives for an honest living n to help feed the world get paid peanuts in comparison to crooked fininciers bankers n shares dealers, doesn't this make any dissent man sick to his bones?
These guys were under pay and under rated. I don't know how if a person can get spotted floating in that condition. I saw a guy got picked out or spotted out in the Malacca Straits when his boat got roll and sink plus he lost his father in that mishap. I can't see a thing between the waves but a crew from another boat spotted him in the sea. The water on the straits are walk in the park compared to Alaska waters. Wow!! Balls of steel for sure
shakein it up like that, fuel filters clog....been there,done that....yep, engine conked out in big storm.......quickest fuel filter change i ever did, scared the crap out of me the whole time while below decks, definitely put me in survival mode .....and yes, why was the skiff picked, i never like having the skiff on board in big weather
wow...it's that easy for a ship to go over....i thought it would take a bigger wave..no wonder it's the most dangerous job in the world....these guys are john wayne of the seas...and the way the guy was so calm on the radio,like another day in the office..they have my respect fully....and i'm a roofer and i have had some hairy times doing that profession but this takes the cake.
I was a commercial fisherman out of Kodiak and Dutch harbor for 6 years..pot-fishing is all I did. dam that sainer is lucky that bigger boat jogged by there side
my props to you Miguel for risking your life out in the ocean like that because there is nobody to rescue out there if you were in that water for a minute it would be safe to say that you would die of hypothermia and I was curious to know Miguel how big was your ship and what was the worst storm you were in and how did your captain
+John Tuttobene the worst was 127 knot winds 35 foot swells. we were not suppose to be out there. it was all hands on deck. I've never seen a captain so nervous in his life. we all called our loved ones one final time via our satellite phone. when we got to.seattle from dutch harbor. the coast guard was waiting for us to give us a certificate. showing facts about the storm we just pass and for surviving it.
Add me on Facebook homie. Miguel Angel Angulo. Got plenty of video's and pictures of my struggle here in Alaska to make ends meet. Am not retired. I retired from fishing. I work.for the state of alaska now. Still doing tough work. I can't retire young homie because am from Mexico.the day I retire means I no longer have poor family there. I work for them. Am getting close.
I just knew this guy was going to miss the money shot all the way through. Pleased to see he “just” managed to capture the moment but barely. Glad all crew were rescued. Incredible scenes.
The power skiff should have been in tow and the power block lowered to the rear deck in these conditions...IMHO. It even looks like the skiff started to move around to the port side of the boat just before it capsized (fished a purse seiner for 10 years).
The reason they capsised was probably cause they had it's beams up so high into the air, that makes ships and boats unsteady but if they have two beams whit anchoors/heavy wheights at each side it would be much more stabile
The crew had no chance to save the vessel. It can be seen from the beginning they were taking on water and struggling tremendously in the underpowered boat to keep turning into the waves. They did a good job keeping her afloat awhile. But it looked inevitable there were going to capsize.
The skipper was messed up. The seiner was listing to the port side because the seine skiff was further to the port side. The skipper should have cut the skiff and saved the seiner.
I grew up around the off shore commercial fishing and shrimping industry in Florida down to South America. Now I live in Alaska. You couldn't get me on a boat up here. Rite there, just this easy. Most of the people that die in the water don't die of drowning or hypothermia, the die of a heart attack from the shock of the cold water. That price you pay for those fish is CHEAP.
From my experience you can handle huge seas if you point the bow into the sea and throttle back and slowly go into it. To fast to dangerous and if you get side on you are in trouble. So this vessel had either none or very little power and the skiff should have been let go and the boom lowered. I have been in some very angry seas and if the vessel is not stable you are in trouble. I think a lot of things went against this vessel, poor management being the number 1.
Problem is if you point the nose into the waves with enough boat speed to maintain control you end up getting further away from home, but these guys might have been wanting to get home, not head out into the middle of the ocean....
@Kingseiner Did you notice the power block was hoisted way up in the working position instead of being lowered to the deck and dropping the center of gravity?
These guys run these boats so top heavy it's hard to believe that more aren't lost. If you ever get a chance, take a look at one of these seiners when it's up on blocks, it'll make you wonder how they stay right side up at all.
Skiff on deck was their undoing, not only were the chain binders loose, allowing the skiff to move around,the skiff was filled with water and you had an added slack tank (free surface effect) to add to the problems of the the heavy weather..Tough little boat she tried her best, condtions just overwhelmed her....
fortunate they had a traveling vessel on the same path, i know how it feels, i was on the copasetic when it capsized outa seward in 2011!!, keep ur carma up!!
7150285 I simply checked the Alaskan ship/boat registry and there were only two with that name. One was a fishing boat, the other was a passenger/tour boat. Now I don't think they would be out giving tours in those seas but a fishing boat would be out there. Took about a minute and a half to do a little research.
As soon as I started watching the video I knew which way the boat was gonna flip - she was listing to port the whole time. Was it bad weight distribution? Flooded tanks? A fat chick?
I was the USCG Accident Investigator on this capsizing incident back in 1988 and Interviewed the survivors and crew of tender and flew out to Montague Island to craw aboard the Linda’s Draw after it came ashore as a total wreck. Vessel had fuel management issues, weight management issues, too much weight aloft, skiff shifted to port and loosely secured. Excellent work from Tender crew who saved the lives of Linda’s Draw crew. Vessel was heading north following the Herring Sac Roe Fishery in Southeast Ak. to PWS. This was a big money fishery back in the day before EV Spill in 1989 and then it all collapsed. I also was Lead Investigator on EV Grounding a year later.
Interesting work you do sir
It did look like he was dead in the water for quite a while there and took on a good deal of water. I was wondering if his engine compartment had flooded.
Hey Mike, thank You for what You do to ensure these daily Hero’s are looked after with the best options, equipment and training possible!
Looked like a poorly balanced boat, for sure. Not riding the waves well.
@@acjohn6995 You’re right! It seemed really low in the water too!
I was fishing on an identical boat as this one and had gotten across the Gulf of Alaska just a day ahead of those guys. I worked with the boat owners son who was driving this boat. I’m thankful they all made it.
you are a truly brave man sir. I honestly think I do not have the bollocks to do your job. Stay safe bro
Should have been towning the skiff and the boom down i was down in south east ak and took a rouge wave over the stern and rilled left almost didn't correct
@@johnathanmyers3794 hi, do you have video footage of the rogue wave? My students were reading about rogues, but I haven’t found much videos on them.
@@mbwelsh65 no sorry it was either save the boat or myself at that point
@@mbwelsh65 rogues are very hard to capture - the name says it all, random, fairly rare, and *always* unexpected.
Sailing on a submarine tender, headed to Adak to meet a submarine for a remote refit, we hit a storm in the Gulf of Alaska, and we were taking green water over the flight deck, some 30 feet above the nominal waterline. Weather like that, everyone stays inside the skin of the ship as much as is possible, so not a lot of cameras available to capture the moment, either.
I grew up on fishing boats. My family's history on the ocean goes
back over 150 years. Have lost many friends over the years. What
use to be caught along the shoreline you need to go out 200 miles
to catch today. If you are not a believer the ocean can make you cry
to God to save you. Total respect to anyone that goes to sea for a living!!
Those folks who work in conditions like this have balls of steel...just scary...hats off to you
I am a trawler Skipper and that was an unnecessary event. In those waves you keep your bow headed into them as a first choice for safety, especially with a transom stern.
Hats off
FFM0594 No you're not
Yep, that's what happens when your balls are bigger than your brains!
@Jon Davis anywhere from 100k to over 500k per year and most only actively work about 4 months a year and then can get unemployment for the rest of the year. They work hard for their money, but they do make alot of it; A fisherman's son whose dad was lost to a fishing accident in 1988 when I was only 16......
Every time we sit down to eat a chunk of fish, it's worth remembering that men go out in mountainous seas to catch that food. It truly is the last, great frontier and those guys have more balls than 90% of the rest of us!
They have my respect....there are many jobs that require iron balls....but these guys are in the middle of nowhere...tossing dice
@@greasyflight6609 buncha idiots ... right up there w/mountain climbers in terms of stupidity lol
@@mt_gox they're not even close to being alike idiot. What a dumb example to use 😂
Adventurous
@@yaboycoconuthead7012 Yeah, what a silly analogy. Hard working men and women risking their lives to earn a living and feed people versus reckless fools with too much money and too much time on their hands cheating death for bragging rights. Talk about a false equivalency.
Respect! I'm 13 years old, and from Norway. In only 2 years i'm going to work on a fishingvessel in the North-sea, can't wait :D
So, now you must be like 21, how it went?
You know the crew of the boat that capsized must have felt like their time had come. I've been out in heavy swells but never in seas like this in a fishing boat. The feeling of biting off more than you can chew and trying to survive is something that makes my.heart go to this crew and the crew that rescued them.
that is exactly how it feels, I got caught in 70 knots and 15 meter seas and made my peace with god survived due to luck, seamanship and a bloody strong boat rig
When the weather gets ugly, and the waves get too high, you literally start questioning your life choices. Out to sea, there have been a few occasions where I literally asked myself what the hell I was doing out there.
The VAST majority of the time, though, it's a great place to be and an amazing experience.
Of course, walking on the bulkheads, wondering if the ship was going to roll upright *this* time, is pretty amazing too. Just, not in a fun way.
Fisherman deserve so much respect, they work so hard for their money and risk their lives. God keep them safe.
yep us numpty humans will continue to wade out to the middle of the ocean with 2 legs and no fins🤷🤦🤦
They are destroying the oceans and their life. I give none of my respect for that disgusting industry.
Fuck commercial fishing
@@arcosprey4811 You like shrimp though dont you.......
@@hay7501 Red meat for you???
Our seiner was in the same storm, heading into Prince William Sound for the Herring season. Actually saw the video in Cordova on the Alaska Eagle when they got into town. The main reason it was floundering so bad was because the seine (net) was in the fishhold without the bin boards in, causing it to shift weight over to port. Also the skiff had shifted to port creating even more stability issues..
Proper 'stow for sea' prevents disasters. Housekeeping chores are tedious, but they save lives and property.
As a Navy veteran I can tell you there are very few things more terrifying than knowing you are going down.
I was going down on a hot little blonde about a week back but I guess that's not what you were referring to!
Horace Hogsnort your fucking disgusting
Nothing is more scary than the ocean. I can't imagine being stranded in the middle of it. Especially at night. Second fear is lost in the forest. It is also not fully explored.
Have you actually went down because unless your like 90 then it’s extremely rare for a navy ship to sink these days. So the whole navy part doesn’t really matter
WELL DONE RESCUE...HEROES! Hope all three was all of them! God bless You!
Angela Falsetta
Ted Morehouse and crew. On the Alaskan eagle.
He found this seiner on a distress call and a rough position before the days of gps.
What a incredible feat .
Ted is forever a hero for this and many other rescues.
He always had a standing rule , if a distress call came across the radio and you could get to them , you did . Period.
He still plugs around on the Lois Anderson and island trader.
Neat guy .
Love how they are soooooo just like "well let's start picking ppl out the water"
If you've fished for long, you are kind of ready for almost anything.
We did a few rescues. We were also involved in a search for missing fisherman. It gets scary in a hurry.
There were several things the Skipper on that boat could have done differently, and probably been alright, but fortunately, there were people out there to save them.
I wouldn't do this kind of work no matter how much it pays, but, I salute those who do !!
If it looks rough in the video, it's absolute hell in real life.
I am from copper center and grew up going out on a 300ft tender commercial fishing with Ted Moorehouse. He rescued a crew that capsized in the early 90s. It aired on Good Morning America. Takes an incredible amount of courage to fish our waters and rescue people.
I remember watching an original copy of this video on VHS as a kid. I believe the Linda's Draw was leaving the Sitka Sac Roe herring fishery for the Togiak Sac Roe fishery in March. I think it was a combination of poor fuel allocation and the skiff broke loose putting the weight on the port side. That line, "Okay, start picking people out of the water!" has been in my head since I was little.
I got motion sickness just watching this. Glad everyone was saved.
Thank God the crew made it....Thank you Alaska Eagle for a job well done!
The year was very good for fishing industry in Alaska. I was in college and got information about fishing in Alaska in needed seamen, it said for few months the season you could eared $50K or $70K. Very attractive ads, but my father said your education would last longer for future earnings.
Beside, we have five big fishing vessels in South Vietnam before 1975. Our family had been in fishing business for very long time. Very difficult works and extreme environment when bad weather at sea.
I fished beside Linda's Draw and new the crew back in the 80's. Nice boat.
why don’t you be quiet rob stone
Why do you say that Joe?
I was on a 53ft ketch in a gulf storm with seas far bigger than that in 1980. The boat behind us lost 2 overboard never recovered. I love the comment the crew mate said about not being on a sail boat. A strong 40-50ft sail boat with a good skipper would have been fine in those seas. That skipper needs to have his certification pulled.
zargnot I think he said Seine (net) boat
I'm glad they were able to rescue the 3 fishermen.
3 out of how many?
3 out of 3
Oh, good! I am a commercial fisherman, i saw this clip many uears ago & thought nobody survived. So glad to jear they were saved
No, unfortunately it was only 3 out of 7.
@@deschutesmaple4520 WRONG.
Crazy stuff. Have a friend who ran a skiff off Kodiak through the 70s and 80s. Has all sorts of crazy stories of living there all year round. Thanks for sharing and stay safe out there :-)
Like the Fitzgerald in 1975 on Lake Superior.
This happened just outside of the entrance to Prince William Sound. Boat was bound for Cordova. I'm from there and from what i know about this incident (just things I heard from my Dad and other fishermen) the owner of this boat had his son running it. The guy was scared (of course) and kept too much power on. This is not unusual. You want to just get inside shelter and out of the storm. Hard to deny adrenaline and slow down. Many times if you just pull back on the throttle in deep sea conditions you reduce risk considerably. Also, they had the jitney on deck, and it filled up with water, plus they had the boom up with the power block on it. This all caused too much weight too high on the vessel, reducing stability. This is just what I've heard. The video seems to confirm this, but I wasn't there so I may be wrong.
I fished and skippered in AK in the 80's and 90's. This boat is a seiner, probably 58', the same type I worked. I also took that boat through the Gulf geared for blackcod and halibut off Seward and Kodiak. It's pretty obvious that they have lost most of their main engine power - there's a little prop wash showing, but not enough to maneuver in those conditions. I don't know how they got themselves into this situation, but I see some major mistakes on the part of the skipper/crew. 1 - it's common in fair weather to haul the skiff up on deck for travel, but when the weather starts looking shitty, you get the skiff off the deck and tow it to lower the center of gravity. I'd guess an average skiff weighs a couple of tons. Like I said, I don't know the circumstances here, so I don't know why it was still on deck. I notice also that it's shifted to port like it wasn't tied down good enough to begin with. It's making the whole boat list. 2 - Another strategy in a seiner when you know you're about to get your butt kicked is to lower the main boom and the block down to the main deck and winch it down tight, further lowering your center of gravity. I wouldn't guess the weight of the boom and block, but your're talking a huge chunk of thick steel tube and a heavy block all the way at the top of it. AK seiners have combinations of lead, concrete, and steel in the keel that makes them like Weebles. Remember the old kid's toy? Weebles wobble but they don't fall down? Same concept. Although lowering the boom can make the period of righting quick enough to be uncomfortable for the crew, it keeps you away from laying over so far for so long that any subsequent waves can pound you down. Two more things I wonder about - It looks like they have two (either picking or stabilizer) booms that are still up. No matter what they are, they should be down also, and rigged tighter, not flopping around. The other thing is that they seem awfully high in the water. Don't know what fishery they were doing, but "if" they had a seine, it should have been in the bottom of the hold and not on deck before they left for a trip in the Gulf. Also by '88 many boats had been converted from the old dry-holds to refrigerated wet-holds, where the fish hold is filled with refrigerated sea water. This boat is one of two things - running an empty wet-hold or one of the old dry-holds. Been there, done that, so many times I can't count.
You commentary ties in with what we "landlubbers" can observe in the video; and your years at the helm are valuable in teaching even experienced boat-men how to plan their voyage when a storm warning is issued. Do you actively mentor young crewmembers, or teach seamanship? Might save some lives if you did, and that would be a good thing.
+dav snow - I've long since left the AK fishing fleet. Fish prices bombed in the late 80's and early 90's and I opted out. Not sure if that was a smart move or not, but it is what it is. During my years in fisheries that seem to be related to this video, we did a lot of transitions from safe water to dangerous water. My original comment just outlines the things we did to be safe on this type of boat. (Or maybe just did so we could get the the next fishery and make a lot of money, lol). Thank you for your reply dav.
+deadfish86 You gave a very clear analysis and that really captured my attention. Kind Regards.
+dav snow - Did some Googling. Here's the scoop, mostly just reinforces what I gathered from the video. From www_ dot_soundingsonline.com/dispatches/290900-fishing-boat-capsizes-sinks:
"There was never a mention of engine trouble, running on auxiliary power, or not having sufficient power to maintain steerage. (Ok I could have gotten that wrong, hard to tell from the video)
The transom of the seine skiff and the seine net had shifted to port, depressing that side. (Noted in original comments)
The boat had an empty hold, except for the net. (Noted in original comments)
The seine block had not been lowered to the deck to reduce the center of gravity. (Noted in original comments)
The boat was not designed to handle those conditions. (Well, that's hard to definitely state. Yes, an AK limit seiner is likely to be a bit small in the Gulf; But - If hardware-outfitted properly, then set up, and skippered properly, it's not a big deal. There were many days in the Gulf that I was thankful for having a little boat. Because of the wave period and height, I watched many larger boats just simply get their ass kicked with some of the storms. Bang, Bang, Bang, I saw them getting hammered and felt sorry for all on board, but on my little boat, we just bobbed like ducks).
The owner of the boat (in Cordova) had called the skipper and urged him to cross the Gulf of AK from Icy Bay to Prince William Sound, even though the weather conditions were bad. The rest of the seine fleet decided to wait out the weather in Icy Bay.
The skipper hand steered for many hours and was exhausted. He turned the helm over to an inexperienced crew member who decided to engage the auto pilot, and within a few minutes the boat broached and went over."
+deadfish86 I just read that page - made a small correction in the URL and found it - thanks for that, and hope young folks watching this avoid similar dilemmas on the oceans.
Respect to all the fishermen and coast guards across the World 💯💙💙🙏🏽
Dear God. I grew up on lake Erie. One man's heavy seas is another's typical day. That video made my eyes tear up. Wow, such power in our oceans and great lakes. God bless those who find themselves in rough seas, be it in a 14ft Utility boat on an inland lake, or a 180ft Trawler.
The Great Lakes aren’t shit compared to the sea conditions that are faced in the oceans and gulfs. Ships sink in the Great Lakes due to inexperienced capts and shitty designed vessels
@@diegoscoffin7491 have you spent much time on any of the Great Lakes?
So blessed you were there to get them!!!!
Cool kettle of fish there, good job on saving your buddies. I guess the capsized ship had lost its power for some reason, getting hit sideways by those mothers of a wave sucks big time.
I think someone mentioned "Are they low on fuel?" or words to that effect.
No wimps on board everyone involved has the courage of a lion, glad everyone ok
people who complains about seafood price should watch this....or don't eat seafood at all!
I like shrimp and salmon so I'll support these guys
Seafood sucks
Gappie Al Kebabi Lol eeewww?
So you're so sympathetic you want to take away their livelihood. Crack work.
Why?
My brother was on the Loch Lein which sank in the Tasman Ocean in 1988 in similar sea's ... FV being operated by Simunovich out of Auckland at that time .... dangerous job .. good result.
Every time I've seen this, I always wonder, Why weren't they jogging? Even "tanked down" (fish holds flooded to to provide weight and raise metacentric height), both of those skippers had to know how prone to surfing and broaching a purse seiner can be.
Linda's Draw seems to be taking these seas on her quarter, the worst possible direction. The boat will surf, become uncontrollable as she exceeds her hull speed, then "head up and broach". The nautical term for that situation is, "Fucked".
Captain: yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what I’m doing...we always do it this way! Nothing’s ever happened.
@@cbones8897 keep the bow (front) pointed into the waves. A boat hit broadside with a wave can capsize if the wave is big enough.
I'm guessing they had no engine by this point. Tough to steer any direction
@@seanlinnan2719 the skiff shifted and the fuel filters clogged. No engines and hydros
Should not have had the skiff on deck.
Alright start picking ppl outta the water!
They knew and were just waiting for it to finally happen.
Been there done that Good Luck and God bless may your futures be filled with fair winds and following seas!!
I got seasick on a lake once. It was like a millpond too! Don't know how these guys do it. Maximum respect.
Do you find that generally your not very solid? I have a few friends like that and it really limits their abilities. Hopefully you have a solid group of friends around you
This footage really gives a more truthful depiction of how violent the water surface is.. it's waves from every which way and the amount of movement on the filming vessel is conveyed too.
4:30
Your welcome
Straight up saved me four minutes.
Tac-Spec My welcome.
Yeah, waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for the "Capsize", which was 1-second at the end. Clickbait.
Thanks
Thank God someone was there
Thank god you’ll made it to help them. How scary man there family’s must have been sick with fear
Fuckin A.... As a guy who grew up on the water, former EMT and prior service Coast Guard this video hits home. It happens so fast. Makes my heart race. Good video, thanks for sharing. Sorry about the boat, glad your friends made it home.
God bless those people that saved their lives that day.
Hats off to these brave rescuers
Honest hard working people like these fishermen working in extreme weather conditions risking their lives for an honest living n to help feed the world get paid peanuts in comparison to crooked fininciers bankers n shares dealers, doesn't this make any dissent man sick to his bones?
Awesome photography !!
Yup I knew it. I was waiting for a wave from the side and thats what does it everytime; hands down. Must always cut into the wave.
Unless of course your engine doesn’t work. But thanks captain obvious!
These guys were under pay and under rated. I don't know how if a person can get spotted floating in that condition.
I saw a guy got picked out or spotted out in the Malacca Straits when his boat got roll and sink plus he lost his father in that mishap. I can't see a thing between the waves but a crew from another boat spotted him in the sea. The water on the straits are walk in the park compared to Alaska waters. Wow!! Balls of steel for sure
shakein it up like that, fuel filters clog....been there,done that....yep, engine conked out in big storm.......quickest fuel filter change i ever did, scared the crap out of me the whole time while below decks, definitely put me in survival mode .....and yes, why was the skiff picked, i never like having the skiff on board in big weather
Well done Alaska Eagle!
It’s a hard way to make a living! But we love what we do and wouldn’t change it
You are a fraud that's never sailed the seas
That was hard to watch. My dad lost his life when the Pacific Surf went down in the Gulf in 1977.
wow...it's that easy for a ship to go over....i thought it would take a bigger wave..no wonder it's the most dangerous job in the world....these guys are john wayne of the seas...and the way the guy was so calm on the radio,like another day in the office..they have my respect fully....and i'm a roofer and i have had some hairy times doing that profession but this takes the cake.
The sea was angry that day, my friends.
+Qqq Qqq No child brides available for him that day.
+Qqq Qqq
How do you know?
+rodjohnson69 brings a Seinfeld funnay! Nice job.
*ANGERY C*
....After a dark and stormy night.
After watching for what seemed like 3 hours, it finally flips over.
"You're gona need a bigger boat..."
ujjufruii jaws 1 one of my favourite movies
you're gonna need another boat!
you're a gonna
Superb boat behavior and badass crew members: I wish everyone has been saved.
I was a commercial fisherman out of Kodiak and Dutch harbor for 6 years..pot-fishing is all I did. dam that sainer is lucky that bigger boat jogged by there side
my props to you Miguel for risking your life out in the ocean like that because there is nobody to rescue out there if you were in that water for a minute it would be safe to say that you would die of hypothermia and I was curious to know Miguel how big was your ship and what was the worst storm you were in and how did your captain
+John Tuttobene the worst was 127 knot winds 35 foot swells. we were not suppose to be out there. it was all hands on deck. I've never seen a captain so nervous in his life. we all called our loved ones one final time via our satellite phone. when we got to.seattle from dutch harbor. the coast guard was waiting for us to give us a certificate. showing facts about the storm we just pass and for surviving it.
Add me on Facebook homie. Miguel Angel Angulo. Got plenty of video's and pictures of my struggle here in Alaska to make ends meet. Am not retired. I retired from fishing. I work.for the state of alaska now. Still doing tough work. I can't retire young homie because am from Mexico.the day I retire means I no longer have poor family there. I work for them. Am getting close.
I learnt one thing about the sea, you will see many things beyond human explanation and no two waves are the same. No one is braver than a sailor
It appeared the ship had no propulsion or steering! and was at the mercy of the sea!!
I think when a big wave hits the stern diagonally behind it can easily flip it. I think this is the Achilles heel of boats and ships.
thank God the other boat was there!
I just knew this guy was going to miss the money shot all the way through. Pleased to see he “just” managed to capture the moment but barely. Glad all crew were rescued. Incredible scenes.
The camera person is FIRED lol
even as a fisherman, made my heart sink. were they wearing survival suits? best $270 bucks ive ever spent!
Probably should've been towing the skiff, thats just making the boat that much more top heavy.
UA-cam needs more people like you.
The power skiff should have been in tow and the power block lowered to the rear deck in these conditions...IMHO. It even looks like the skiff started to move around to the port side of the boat just before it capsized (fished a purse seiner for 10 years).
@@-BUFFALOMan Yes, In tow, off the deck. D Marden is absolutely correct. What is your reasoning? I'd like to know.
The reason they capsised was probably cause they had it's beams up so high into the air, that makes ships and boats unsteady but if they have two beams whit anchoors/heavy wheights at each side it would be much more stabile
I thought I saw Lieutenant Dan in that other ships mast.
The crew had no chance to save the vessel. It can be seen from the beginning they were taking on water and struggling tremendously in the underpowered boat to keep turning into the waves. They did a good job keeping her afloat awhile. But it looked inevitable there were going to capsize.
Did the engines go out, I've never been on one of these boats but I know you don't want to run parallel to the swell.
I was at my brother's place in Cordova Alaska watching this on the news the year it happened.
The skipper was messed up. The seiner was listing to the port side because the seine skiff was further to the port side. The skipper should have cut the skiff and saved the seiner.
I grew up around the off shore commercial fishing and shrimping industry in Florida down to South America. Now I live in Alaska. You couldn't get me on a boat up here. Rite there, just this easy. Most of the people that die in the water don't die of drowning or hypothermia, the die of a heart attack from the shock of the cold water. That price you pay for those fish is CHEAP.
Capsize at 4:35
Wow those seas are unbelievable!!
The way she wallows makes me think she's top heavy.
Probably light on fuel too you'd be surprised what full fuel tanks will do for ballist
Those were my exact thoughts and maybe hold slop ...
God damn those waves are tight together
From my experience you can handle huge seas if you point the bow into the sea and throttle back and slowly go into it. To fast to dangerous and if you get side on you are in trouble. So this vessel had either none or very little power and the skiff should have been let go and the boom lowered. I have been in some very angry seas and if the vessel is not stable you are in trouble. I think a lot of things went against this vessel, poor management being the number 1.
Problem is if you point the nose into the waves with enough boat speed to maintain control you end up getting further away from home, but these guys might have been wanting to get home, not head out into the middle of the ocean....
Peter Redding Unless the seas come from two directions like in the Fastnet race
She had to be dead in the water.
Right! Better to sink the vessel than go a couple of miles the wrong way. A good Captain would have turned long before this.
Sawok Productions exactly.
I will never take eating fish for granted anymore.Brave guys.
Why were they sailing across the waves and not heading in to them?
They lost steerage. Rudder post broke, no rudder, no steerage, he’s at the mercy of the seas.
@@crogers8806 that explains it then. Thank you.
@Kingseiner Did you notice the power block was hoisted way up in the working position instead of being lowered to the deck and dropping the center of gravity?
This looks like a flooded engine room. Engine loss in a gale will sink any sort of ship.
These guys run these boats so top heavy it's hard to believe that more aren't lost. If you ever get a chance, take a look at one of these seiners when it's up on blocks, it'll make you wonder how they stay right side up at all.
id hate to be on that boat. lol
That is crazy footage!
I worked on the Alaska Eagle 2 years after this happened from 1990 - 1995.
Get the Skiff off the deck in weather like that Rip to the 4 men
Skiff on deck was their undoing, not only were the chain binders loose, allowing the skiff to move around,the skiff was filled with water and you had an added slack tank (free surface effect) to add to the problems of the the heavy weather..Tough little boat she tried her best, condtions just overwhelmed her....
fortunate they had a traveling vessel on the same path, i know how it feels, i was on the copasetic when it capsized outa seward in 2011!!, keep ur carma up!!
If it weren't for Alaskan fisherman our Coast Guard would be bored to death
deborah wood then I guess all other Coast Guards that's in the calm water areas are bore to death
+deborah wood That's not a Coast Guard vessel saving them, it's another fishing boat.
Jackle61 how do u know? Can you prove it?
7150285 I simply checked the Alaskan ship/boat registry and there were only two with that name. One was a fishing boat, the other was a passenger/tour boat. Now I don't think they would be out giving tours in those seas but a fishing boat would be out there. Took about a minute and a half to do a little research.
Jackle61 I'm talking about in this vid
Nice job video man
Almost saw what I waited 4:40 seconds to see
if I cant catch it within sight of land on a nice day then I don't really need to eat it
That is too funny ....
good save Alaska Eagle !
As soon as I started watching the video I knew which way the boat was gonna flip - she was listing to port the whole time. Was it bad weight distribution? Flooded tanks? A fat chick?
Probably the most dangerous water on earth
" The seas were angry that day my friend"
"Like an old man trying to send soup back at a deli"
Only ONE sea was angry
I feel like I'm going to be sick just looking at those waves. That goodness this didn't happen at night and that they were rescued.
Just watching made me want to puke!
I remember this gulf in 2006 I sailed here and it was a near death experience