Can you make an alternative history of Sparta? Like Leonidas manages to win the battle of Thermopylae and then decides to colonize Italy,Anatolia,Libya and the Black Sea, he decides to tighten up relations with Macedon, he later has a war with the Romans in which he is victorious and manages to conquer more of South Italy,he dies and his son Leonidas II takes the throne, Leonidas II decides to do a long wished dream of his father to conquer Athens. He succeeds and becomes the dominant Hellenic power above Macedon the Romans take over all of Hellas and Sparta is the last one alive, in 1568 Sparta finally falls to the Ottomans alongside the other balkan states, in 1659 a revolt led by Hellenic armatoloi takes place in morea and they manage to occupy Athens morea crete and thessaly, they annex these lands, and Russia invites them to the Holy league in 1683 they join the Great Turkish war occupying all of Vardaska most of Albania, all of Thrace and Eastern Rumelia including Constantinople.In 1711 they declare war to the Ottomans so that they can take over Asia Minor in which they succeed, Mihail the Turkoslayer becomes the emperor of the Spartan empire and then makes colonies in South Patagonia,Egypt,South Africa,Equatorial Africa,India and Japan, the British Empire decides to stop the power of Sparta in Indi and occupies it, later the Hellenic goverment funds Bulgarian,Serbian and Romanian rebels, they all gain their independence, and sparta decides that they are the only Hellenic state so they change their name to the Hellenic Empire. The balkan nations form the balkan league it is dedicated to protect every one of their people. Today the Hellenic Kingdom has made a commonwealth of hellenic nations which was created in the 1960's. Hope you like my idea.
7:13 This is the Greek song of Macedonia, literally saying that Macedonia is Greek (Which is true) but is not related to this video since is about Vardarska.
@@englishmapping6762 So, let me guess that you're from FYROM? To be in this video, probably. So, you're claiming that Greece is Ottoman, when in Reality, that's completely wrong, and doesn't have a logic. Explain then, how is Greece Ottoman, when the Ottoman Empire collapsed 100 years ago, and Greek People live in a Greek state?
@@WTFCDFoxy Can you do an alternative history of the orlov uprising? Like, the Greeks rebel in 1770 and manage to win the Ottomans and then become strong enough so they and Russia liberate the other balkan states
@@partizanbear552 You know about animals...So you understand that Real history is on National Geographic. FYROM's history is on Animal Planet..Good night Slav
This is so cool! I love it! If only we had all that territory now, and in the real world.... Good job man, you never fail to impress me with your good quality. Cheers from Skopje.
I mean with Macedonia ruling that many Greeks compared to the small number of Slavs he brought with him, wouldn’t the Greeks have slowly taken over the state?
How do you get all the information to make these videos? Great job, I’m one of the only ones who knows that this takes immense work (from past experience, of course!)
This video is very very confusing. The first song is Greek and speaks of Macedonia being Greek, something that is totally true. But the video shows what? I don't get it. Macedonia was Greek since the beginning of time. It was conquered by barbarian tribes sometimes, like in the Ottoman Empire years, but it managed to free itself every time with the help of our Greek Gods. Zeus and Athena was always at our side.
This is an alternate history so it obviously ain't true. It's just a "what if Vardar Macedonia was really a thing thousands of years ago" for the sake of fun.
If you actually analised the video, you would see that the first Macedonia (pre 1000) was actually ruled by Greeks. They only become Slavs during the second period, kinda similar to what happened in the actual history
greek people are o cofused when king otto created greece and roman alexander killed many greeks and toture you are very wrong zeus was macedonian your gods are mythology make solun ours again
@@chris9473 king otti didnt create Greece, the first ruler of Greece was Kapodistrias, and Greece was created after our great revolutionaries. Alexander was Macedonian wich means he was Greek and he tortured the Greeks who didnt want a unified Greek State. The Twelve Gods of Olympus were 10000000000% Greek and only a drunkman would say the opposit. Not Solun but Thessaloniki cause Alexander named it after his win against Thessaly (wich is also Greek), win in greek is "niki" so the win after the Thessalians was called Thessalo-niki!!!!
Vardarska is real Macedonia maybe. Greeks are not Macedonians or Bulgarians. Vardarska+egejska se Macedonia country. maybe fyrom are Macedonians Greeks DNA.
0:24 - 4:00 / 7:14 - 9:52 It is a Greek march called (Μακεδονία ξακουστή) Macedonia renowned, of Alexander the country, that you drove the barbarians and you are free now. You were and will be Greek, Greeks the pride, and we will see you proudly again. Macedonians can not to live enslaved, all if you lose them their freedom remains.
@@АнтониоСтојчески Explain me why, do you have any logical points? Whats your opinion about your politicians who said that you are Slavs and Macedonia is Greek. So you don't have anything to say? Macedonias spoke Greek, they even took part in the Olympics in which only Greeks were taking place, even Alexander the Great competed. They also adored the same gods as the Greeks! If you have ever read a book (from a university's library etc Oxford). If your are a sheep which believe whatever it's government says then you are officially "dead" as you don't use you're brain to rethink everything that they've told you. And I many assets to tell you and possibly persuade with the hope that you might change your mind. But I will try that only if you understand that Macedonia is Greek, even the word Macedonia is Greek...
@@chris9473 i am macedonian.. i have this symbol in my own lands in ruins.. can you show me a ruin with this symbol in your land?? i am waiting to see it...
@@charadradam9985 @Sara Aksekals you came in waaay after Great Alexander.. Ur language is the same as Bulgarians.. Great Alexander spoke Greek, worshiped Greek Gods, competed in Olympic games where only Greeks allowed to compete, his father born in Greece and his graveyard is in Vergina and has something written in Greek, his teacher was Aristotle (greek name) and not Aristolfski XD, he conquered Egypt where there has cities even now with Greek names and also still today Egypt admires Great Alexander and his Greek Kingdom, Iran has cities with Greek names too, Loads of, historians Americans,Greeks,Egyptians,Chinese,Russians,Finnish and Polish said about the Great Alexander and his Greek origin.. We have a lot of coins,old books and etc. in museums.. Todays slavs have nothing to do with Macedonia.. Staying in that region for 200 years doesn't make you Macedonian.. Or Greek... It's like calling Texas a different nation from USA... Everyone in Europe knows that you got the name so you can join the EU.. It was only political.. Even ur DNA data shows that you have nothing in common with Great Alexander..
Efi Jordanidou why don’t Greeks have any old songs throughout the centuries about Alexander?? 😂😂 But us Macedonians have centuries old songs about Alexander 👍🇲🇰 Before the 20th century, for 2000 years Greeks HATED ALEXANDER and cursed him and his people 😂 The Greeks of Athens and their allies, their armies and fleets, should so often curse and execrate Philip, his children and his kingdom, his military and naval forces, and the whole race and name of the Macedonians.” (SOURCE: Titus Livius, “History of Rome”, 31, 44).
In my opinion this is very interesting alternative history, but sad what this watched so small people, I wish what your channel start like Roman Empire, from small country to big empire!
As Macedonian 🇲🇰 i can tell you this is pretty good explaining . And i would like if it was like this . At least from 1903. And we would have better realtionship than what we have now .
@@alien4841 not really its not only Macedonian it's Thessalian Epirote Pelloponesean Aegean Cretan and Thracian :) Which all make up the Hellenic Identity
And that region in the start of video wasnt and isnt Macedonia in the treaty of Bucharest Serbia Bulgaria an Greece didn't use the word Macedonia anywhere cause Serbia and Bulgaria knew that only Greece has Macedonia
No, because they all knew it was called Macedonia but they were little bitches and divided the region in three pieces until Tito gave the Macedonians to have its state in Yugoslavia and be called Macedonians
@Hennry Dinkov Bulgar is not a launguage. Bulgar Is Non-slav Bulgarian. We came from Central Asia, but you cant blame us for that! If you call me bad when the ikd Bulgarians came from Central Asia that means that you are racist! 🇧🇬+🇷🇸=🇲🇰
@@petarnikolov1020 Have you ever thought that Macedonia (Μακεδονία) in Greek means tall men, or Alexander (Αλέξανδρος) protector of men (Αλεξ=protection+ Άνδρας=man)
North part of greece ( south macedonia) are also slav people and there are living macedonian people who before second world war were tortured by greek goverment and greek nationalism was forcibly imposed in macedonian people. Same problem is also with Bulgaria( Now they have pirin macedonia ). You can see on Internet how big was Macedonia before 1913. There were living macedonian people , nor bulgarians nor greeks. I dont say today that pirin part of Macedonia is not bulgarian or south part of Macedonia is not greek, but I can say that I am macedonian living in country Macedonia and I am speaking macedonian language and my nationality exist from 800BC so we have big macedonian history apsolutly different from greek or bulgarian one . From 6th centry slavic people came in macedonian territory and they also were declared as macedonaian people not only slavic people. The biggest problem in Macedonia is that at the end of Ottoman empire we didn’t have leader so we lost our territories. I don’t know why in 21st century we talk about this nationalism things because we balkans live in pretty much poor countries with bad economy and nobody should care about history because nothing can be proven. We need to talk about our present and our future . Thank you for you attention.
Look here, I'd be very very careful what I'd be saying in this regard, for Greece stepped up when the Turks deserted you as VARDASKA and when the Serbians set you free, where Turkey could not afford to keep you and I'm referring to financially. HELLANISM stepped in and has pumped a lot of money and still is and we're responsible for most if not all of the new buildings that were built and huge shopping centres. Yes there is a Great profit for Greece but she pumps a lot of money in. Although you have a stolen name, Greece has been your saviour, and what annoys me extremely is that you Bulgars or slavs are very disrespectful in the matter of the subject that your ridiculously obscured insanely infatuation of a large slavic nation stretching as far as HALKIDIKI IS PHYSICALLY SPASMODIC IN YOUR SKEPTICAL SCHEMES which will never happen but I must give you a little credit for your ideological skepticism is not quite as bad as the Albanians who want all of ΕΛΛΙΝΗΣ
This song is Greek, Maceodonia is Greek, Alexander the Great was Greek, F.YR.O.V is bulgaria and the song says '' Είσαι και θα είσαι ελληνική '' Means You are Greek and you Will be Greek. Get GRekt
DONALD TRUMP SAY: Alexandar the great not greek. He was Macedonian.fantasic Macedonia that say DONALT TRUMP greek you cant kill Macedonia 🇲🇰 no America loool 🇲🇰♥️🇺🇸
Green, Badian, Borza). The fact that 50,000 Greeks were fighting Alexander’s Macedonians shows clearly that their loyalty and their numerical superiority lies with Darius and his Persians, not with Alexander and his Macedonians. As Peter Green puts it: “if this was a Greek conquest where were the Greek troops?” Alexander’s conquest can not therefore be at all a Greek conquest, but simply a Macedonian conquest. Plutarch the life of amelius For the people which had just forced Antiochus, surnamed the Great, to retire from the rest of Asia, driven him over the Taurus mountains, and shut him up in Syria, where he had been content to buy terms with a payment of fifteen thousand talents; 3 which had a little while before set the Greeks free from Macedonia by crushing Philip in Thessaly. Titus Livius very clearly distinguishes the Macedonians from the Greeks. In the same book, while writing about the hatred the Greek Athenians had towards the Macedonians from the time of the Macedonian king Philip V, and their desire (with help from Rome) to get rid of the Macedonian slavery, Livius writes: “…The Greeks of Athens and their allies, their armies and fleets, should so often curse and execrate Philip, his children and his kingdom, his military and naval forces, and the whole race and name of the Macedonians.” (SOURCE: Titus Livius, “History of Rome”, 31, 44). Titus Quintius Flamininus; a roman commander; Later, when Philip V of Macedon was professing a desire for peace, Titus made a tender to him of peace and friendship, upon the condition that the Greeks be left to their own laws, and that he should withdraw his garrisons, which he refused to comply with, now after these proposals, the universal belief even of the favorers and partisans of Philip, was, that the Romans came not to fight against the Greeks, but for the Greeks, against the Macedonians. Book II - Battle of Issus, in Arrian's "The Campaigns of Alexander" "Darius' Greeks fought to thrust the Macedonians back into the water and save the day for their left wing, already in retreat, while the Macedonians, in their turn, with Alexander's triumph plain before their eyes, were determined to equal his success and not forfeit the proud title of invincible, hitherto universally bestowed upon them. The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian." [p.119]
Greek scholars got together and thought “we don’t have a great history but our neighbors the Macedonians do... especially with Alexander. So lets just write some new history on Wikipedia and claim it as Greek” 😂😂
Macedonia and Greece mentioned as 2 separate places, and Macedonians and Greeks mentioned as 2 different ethnicities in the bible in the 1st century Acts chapter 20: Through Macedonia and Greece 20 When the uproar had ended, Paul sent for the disciples and, after encouraging them, said goodbye and set out for Macedonia. 2 He traveled through that area, speaking many words of encouragement to the people, and finally arrived in Greece, 3 where he stayed three months. Because some Jews had plotted against him just as he was about to sail for Syria, he decided to go back through Macedonia.
This video is such a joke.The names of the presidents are Greek and you put a greek song on a Video!🤣MACEDONIA IS GREECE!🇬🇷 AND NOBODY CAN'T CHANGE IT...
So basically what you are saying is if I made a video and edited Macedonian song in Greece being built up by Macedonians and that Greece are Macedonians Is that how it works because apparently you are saying that
Bro Macedonia is First an Greek word and mean Makedones Second the Macedonian you maked Here never existed and its never ancient Macedonia THEY ARE SLAVS NOT GREEKS ALSO NORTH MACEDONIA DOESNT HAVE HISTORY THEY CLAIM IT BRO WTF U USED AN GREEK SONG WHO PROVES AND SAY MACEDONIA IS GREECE
Macedonia is Greek ! This video is wrong. Great Alexander was Greek. This is why he could take place in Olympics. Please don't confuse the people! Macedonia is a Greek region! The name of the country is North Macedonia! Not just Macedonia!!! Please correct it. There is a treatment between Greece and this country for its name. Thank you!
@@macedonianmapping7206 hallo . wait I know you .I've probably seen some of your videos . it's nice. but okay . it's not the best greetings from Greece . but guys read the history a Little beyond the fun Macedonia is Greek . if you reshearch it will you understand .
billgame stefanis I believe that Macedonia isn’t Greek.. Everyone has he’s opinion.. But I don’t want to hate each other. Do you want to be still a friend of mine?
fun fact 0:00-4:33 greek (macedonian and byzantine) history 4:40-8:54 vardar (serbian history) 8:55-end fake hypothetical scenario against greece in conclusion its not alternate its fake simple
The fact that the music is about Greek Macedonia , xdddddddddd, a message to Vardaska "The President may give you a name, but the people of true Macedonia give nothing and if you continue ,sorry but there are going to be wars.
Yes bulgarians never used the greek alphabet but this is an alternative history.Think about it as a video with the title ''If fyrom had real history and not propaganda''
@@comingafteryou5352 Explain why only 200 years ago your mob was only speaking albanian and had to be taught what sounds like houso Spanish. Then you got a bavarian to be your king and you took on the british slave trading flag. Look it up, toad.
@@eddienastovski8163 Lol we didn't speak albanian we continue speaking greek through out the milleniums.You on the other hand except that you were speaking bulgarian as bulgarians might have spoke albanian too since you are 30-40% albanians lol.Yes we had a bavarian king and what's your point?As for the flag no it wasn't the same as the british company of east india unlike yours who is a replica of imperial Japan.Learn some history brainwashed bulgarian.
People seriously need to chill the fuck out. This is just an alternate history video. So please, for the love of god, be nationalist elsewhere, this took a very long time to make.
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WTF CD -[Foxy]- Macedonia is Greek
Bruh
Greek royalist mapper
Chill m8...
It’s just alternative and stop hating and being aggressive.
He made Alternative History Of Greece..
CHILL
@@ΛάζαροςΠαντελιδης ummm... Hahahahhaa not funny (greek IS MACEDONIA?!)
@@ΛάζαροςΠαντελιδης Greek is Macedonia
You even put the remix of a Greek song about Macedonia.
I think the people who disliked this doesn't understand that this is alternative lol
You are really funny lolllll. We dislike the name he uses my friend, we are not traitors to let people steal our history and do nothing 🙂
Can you make an alternative history of Sparta?
Like Leonidas manages to win the battle of Thermopylae and then decides to colonize Italy,Anatolia,Libya and the Black Sea, he decides to tighten up relations with Macedon, he later has a war with the Romans in which he is victorious and manages to conquer more of South Italy,he dies and his son Leonidas II takes the throne, Leonidas II decides to do a long wished dream of his father to conquer Athens.
He succeeds and becomes the dominant Hellenic power above Macedon the Romans take over all of Hellas and Sparta is the last one alive, in 1568 Sparta finally falls to the Ottomans alongside the other balkan states, in 1659 a revolt led by Hellenic armatoloi takes place in morea and they manage to occupy Athens morea crete and thessaly, they annex these lands, and Russia invites them to the Holy league in 1683 they join the Great Turkish war occupying all of Vardaska most of Albania, all of Thrace and Eastern Rumelia including Constantinople.In 1711 they declare war to the Ottomans so that they can take over Asia Minor in which they succeed, Mihail the Turkoslayer becomes the emperor of the Spartan empire and then makes colonies in South Patagonia,Egypt,South Africa,Equatorial Africa,India and Japan, the British Empire decides to stop the power of Sparta in Indi and occupies it, later the Hellenic goverment funds Bulgarian,Serbian and Romanian rebels, they all gain their independence, and sparta decides that they are the only Hellenic state so they change their name to the Hellenic Empire.
The balkan nations form the balkan league it is dedicated to protect every one of their people.
Today the Hellenic Kingdom has made a commonwealth of hellenic nations which was created in the 1960's.
Hope you like my idea.
7:13 This is the Greek song of Macedonia, literally saying that Macedonia is Greek (Which is true) but is not related to this video since is about Vardarska.
Macedonia is not Greek.
@@legendmk52 You wish
Greek Trump Greek is ottoman and it will always by the way I like Greek people not government
@@englishmapping6762 So, let me guess that you're from FYROM? To be in this video, probably.
So, you're claiming that Greece is Ottoman, when in Reality, that's completely wrong, and doesn't have a logic.
Explain then, how is Greece Ottoman, when the Ottoman Empire collapsed 100 years ago, and Greek People live in a Greek state?
@@antonispoli FOROG (Former Ottoman Republic of Greece), how do you like it??
The song says that Macedonia is and will be Greek.And you have put it to a video for vardarska
Sorry for my mistake. I just had to find some soundtrack for this video
@@WTFCDFoxy
Can you do an alternative history of the orlov uprising?
Like, the Greeks rebel in 1770 and manage to win the Ottomans and then become strong enough so they and Russia liberate the other balkan states
@@orionnebula2605 Good idea
I mean....
macedonia is greek.
North macedonia is bulgarian
@@Joropicha7 bugaria e turska ako makedonija e grcka
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Partizan Bear In your head maybe. The whole world knows you are ethnic Bulgarians/Serbians mixed with Albanians. Good try though
partizan bear or...beer?why not partizan tomato?or partizan pepperoni???slavs...
@@partizanbear552 You know about animals...So you understand that Real history is on National Geographic. FYROM's history is on Animal Planet..Good night Slav
@@partizanbear552 Wait, Pirin is in Bulgaria, wtf aare you talking about?
@@partizanbear552 Yeah, cause they dont know a lot about the Balkan! Well, I'm talking about SOME people, not the whole world!
So good..
I love it!
I subbed!
You loved because is not real
And I'm not care about you subed
You loved it, because FYROM dont have history!
@@ГеоргиПетров-т6ц hahaha yes
@@ГеоргиПетров-т6ц 30 years country
This video basically is
"What if Macedonia actually had history rather than propaganda"
So true though
Of course
Here we go again.
She has her history.
And you are the propaganda
@@KaraiskaKYS what us so true? Are you people on drugs
YOU HATE OR I'LL REPHRASE THAT
You are that jealous. Of HELLANISM you have in a make believe story wiped out HELLANISM.
You people are sick
Everyone is bitching that he used greek songs for this but can we just appreciate that he called the wannabes Vardarska
Well yeah "vardarska" is a part of the macedonia region like pirinska and egejska and pchinska and plusteca
@@StefanTCTS why would Makethonia be part of a south Serbian nation
@@panthir6720 that's the name of the region your macedonia is egejska
@@StefanTCTS u do realize that Alexander Spoke Greek and the last time I checked Vardaskans don't
@@panthir6720 well I'm from palau and I speak English and that doesn't matter
So if alexander spoke Greek doesn't mean he is
This is so cool! I love it! If only we had all that territory now, and in the real world.... Good job man, you never fail to impress me with your good quality. Cheers from Skopje.
So basically, you want 2 million population of people (which should have been 9 million) To just die carelessly.
I disagree with your opinion.
@@darklyboi3134 huh?
Oh well hi pal! Long time no see!
@@Rabid_Nationalist yoo waddup bro? I forgot about this video ahahahha
@@legendmk52 me too just came here for nostalgia. How are ya?
Good work!✨
Thank's
I mean with Macedonia ruling that many Greeks compared to the small number of Slavs he brought with him, wouldn’t the Greeks have slowly taken over the state?
YOU ARE FU... Sick And tormented
Yes
@@alexanderpaleologos1218*fucking
How do you get all the information to make these videos? Great job, I’m one of the only ones who knows that this takes immense work (from past experience, of course!)
In Wikipedia I study all the leaders and conflicts to make it somewhat more realistic, and then I just pull scenarios out of my a**
@@WTFCDFoxy Yknow, some ppl would call that strategy bad, but honestly there’s nothing else to do and your videos are good anyways, so thanks
i love your Alternate history of... series and please do Romania!!
Alternate history of Belarus🇧🇾
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@@circle_77 i don't think vadim speaks korean
BIALARUS
This video is very very confusing. The first song is Greek and speaks of Macedonia being Greek, something that is totally true. But the video shows what? I don't get it. Macedonia was Greek since the beginning of time. It was conquered by barbarian tribes sometimes, like in the Ottoman Empire years, but it managed to free itself every time with the help of our Greek Gods. Zeus and Athena was always at our side.
This is an alternate history so it obviously ain't true. It's just a "what if Vardar Macedonia was really a thing thousands of years ago" for the sake of fun.
If you actually analised the video, you would see that the first Macedonia (pre 1000) was actually ruled by Greeks. They only become Slavs during the second period, kinda similar to what happened in the actual history
@@maksampece947 You do realize that this video is mere fiction?
greek people are o cofused when king otto created greece and roman alexander killed many greeks and toture you are very wrong zeus was macedonian your gods are mythology make solun ours again
@@chris9473 king otti didnt create Greece, the first ruler of Greece was Kapodistrias, and Greece was created after our great revolutionaries. Alexander was Macedonian wich means he was Greek and he tortured the Greeks who didnt want a unified Greek State. The Twelve Gods of Olympus were 10000000000% Greek and only a drunkman would say the opposit. Not Solun but Thessaloniki cause Alexander named it after his win against Thessaly (wich is also Greek), win in greek is "niki" so the win after the Thessalians was called Thessalo-niki!!!!
You put every Macedonian revolutiners as president :)
Легенда е, зар не? Баш би помислил дека бугарин најмалку би го направил тоа.
@@legendmk52 ни јас
@@legendmk52 еве брат и јас се чудам
You do not have revolutioners
@@legendmk52 SE" NAJUBAVO ! ! Tatjana
What is the first song called?
No, that is the third song. I want the name of the first song.
@@legendmk52 we meet again northern coward
@@MICHELANGELO74A what? When have we met southern thief?
@alxxpspqr Can you give me the history why Macedonia is Greek if you fucking believe that?
@alxxpspqr And it's not Macedonia. ITS FYROM ( Federal Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia )
Where do you get this golden map?
3:18 Bulgaria vs Bulgaria?!
jorko hristev are u dumb?? It literally says Macedonia
That my friend is called a civil war
um its a joke
bulgarian vs mongol mongol wins sorry tar tar
Very nice but alternativ history of romania??...?
Vardarska is real Macedonia maybe.
Greeks are not Macedonians or Bulgarians.
Vardarska+egejska se Macedonia country.
maybe fyrom are Macedonians Greeks DNA.
Ddd Fff I think that this is the wrong comment...
@@dddfff3578 ok lol
0:24 - 4:00 / 7:14 - 9:52 It is a Greek march called (Μακεδονία ξακουστή)
Macedonia renowned,
of Alexander the country,
that you drove the barbarians
and you are free now.
You were and will be Greek,
Greeks the pride,
and we will see you
proudly again.
Macedonians can not
to live enslaved,
all if you lose them
their freedom remains.
Macedonia is Macedonia
@@АнтониоСтојчески Explain me why, do you have any logical points? Whats your opinion about your politicians who said that you are Slavs and Macedonia is Greek. So you don't have anything to say? Macedonias spoke Greek, they even took part in the Olympics in which only Greeks were taking place, even Alexander the Great competed. They also adored the same gods as the Greeks! If you have ever read a book (from a university's library etc Oxford). If your are a sheep which believe whatever it's government says then you are officially "dead" as you don't use you're brain to rethink everything that they've told you. And I many assets to tell you and possibly persuade with the hope that you might change your mind. But I will try that only if you understand that Macedonia is Greek, even the word Macedonia is Greek...
@@y.p.9797 You wish.
No one owns FYROM.
@@АнтониоСтојчески historical Macedonia was/is Greece
@@АнтониоСтојчески Macedonia is Greek.🇬🇷
This🇲🇰 is NOT Macedonia. This is Monkeydonia🐵🐵
Why is there a second alternative history of Bulgaria?
jorko hristev why do you have two dads and I’m one of them??
True jorko hristev
@Trans Yoghurt ?
The first half till the fall of the Neo-Macedonian Empire is Hellenic and Bulgars, later it's Serb and Bulgars and even later is Bulgarians.
before 25 centuries PHILIP create KINGDOM MAKEDONIJA.
PHILIP KING, ALEXANDER TSAR ON MAKEDONIJA ! ! !
First of all why did you use the star of Vergina thats a greek symbol second why inside the video vardaska wasnt called north Macedonia
the star of macedonian is kutlesh not Vergina thats in greek go get your own flag
Vardarska?? Stop being so delusional and go pay the debts you owe to germany
@@chris9473 i am macedonian.. i have this symbol in my own lands in ruins.. can you show me a ruin with this symbol in your land?? i am waiting to see it...
@@charadradam9985 @Sara Aksekals you came in waaay after Great Alexander.. Ur language is the same as Bulgarians.. Great Alexander spoke Greek, worshiped Greek Gods, competed in Olympic games where only Greeks allowed to compete, his father born in Greece and his graveyard is in Vergina and has something written in Greek, his teacher was Aristotle (greek name) and not Aristolfski XD, he conquered Egypt where there has cities even now with Greek names and also still today Egypt admires Great Alexander and his Greek Kingdom, Iran has cities with Greek names too, Loads of, historians Americans,Greeks,Egyptians,Chinese,Russians,Finnish and Polish said about the Great Alexander and his Greek origin.. We have a lot of coins,old books and etc. in museums..
Todays slavs have nothing to do with Macedonia.. Staying in that region for 200 years doesn't make you Macedonian.. Or Greek... It's like calling Texas a different nation from USA...
Everyone in Europe knows that you got the name so you can join the EU.. It was only political.. Even ur DNA data shows that you have nothing in common with Great Alexander..
@@vasilis_t4608 i am greek my friend. you misunderstood me
The song is Greek 😂😂
Yeas
fyrom are Greek kingdom Macedonia .
Όντως, μαλακίαση στο φουλ😂
@United Macedonia Slaven Albaner Roma Serbiens your ar Makedonien? bardaska Tito Serbien
Efi Jordanidou why don’t Greeks have any old songs throughout the centuries about Alexander?? 😂😂
But us Macedonians have centuries old songs about Alexander 👍🇲🇰
Before the 20th century, for 2000 years Greeks HATED ALEXANDER and cursed him and his people 😂
The Greeks of Athens and their allies, their armies and fleets, should so often curse and execrate Philip, his children and his kingdom, his military and naval forces, and the whole race and name of the Macedonians.” (SOURCE: Titus Livius, “History of Rome”, 31, 44).
Very nice.
How about Korea or Manchuria next?
Hey WTF CD Foxy, can you please do the alternate history of Belarus? 🇧🇾
H E H A S!
In my opinion this is very interesting alternative history, but sad what this watched so small people, I wish what your channel start like Roman Empire, from small country to big empire!
As Macedonian 🇲🇰 i can tell you this is pretty good explaining . And i would like if it was like this . At least from 1903. And we would have better realtionship than what we have now .
The song literally says that Macedonia was and is Greek in Greek XD
Really?
yes lol
Greek is Macedonia
@@alien4841 not really its not only Macedonian it's Thessalian Epirote Pelloponesean Aegean Cretan and Thracian :) Which all make up the Hellenic Identity
@@dimitrisanonymous1858 Macedonia is Macedonia, no one owns anyone, idiot.
And that region in the start of video wasnt and isnt Macedonia in the treaty of Bucharest Serbia Bulgaria an Greece didn't use the word Macedonia anywhere cause Serbia and Bulgaria knew that only Greece has Macedonia
No, because they all knew it was called Macedonia but they were little bitches and divided the region in three pieces until Tito gave the Macedonians to have its state in Yugoslavia and be called Macedonians
then fyrom tell me what Macedonia is in etymology and where the word comes
M A K E D O N I J A NAME 30 CENTURIES from GOD MAKEDON ! !
10:52 you mean Macedonian language
There is no Macedonian language, there is Bulgarian dialect
@Hennry Dinkov And? What are you laughing at? I have to laugh at you! You are keep stealing from Greek and Bulgarian history!
@Hennry Dinkov Why, brainwashed? You dont want to be exposed?
@Hennry Dinkov Bulgar is not a launguage. Bulgar Is Non-slav Bulgarian.
We came from Central Asia, but you cant blame us for that! If you call me bad when the ikd Bulgarians came from Central Asia that means that you are racist!
🇧🇬+🇷🇸=🇲🇰
@Hennry Dinkov The first Fyrom country was created after WW2 when BULGARIA occupied your territory. Before that It was Serbian territory!
U have a little mistake at the end, Solun(Thessaloniki) has more citizens then Skopje, Skopje has below 900 thousand
It is Alternative
I like that the music in the background is the greek song of "Macedonia known by all"
But did the republic of Krusevo really exist?
Yes
Now this put's a smile on my face.
I actually hate to commend here but can u do Alternativ history of Switzerland?
GREECE is MACEDONIA !
@Milenko Nedeklovski and there is no "WE" you r or bulgarian tatar or greek gypsie behind that fake name.
Macedonia is only Greece. The real Macedonians are Greeks not Slavs
@@ΒαγγεληςΓαζης..... Pirot is.... Greece.
Is that true that the kuber was bulgar from turkic origines?
I think we all know their real history 😉
(they don't have lol)
Alternative History of Hungary? You are great mapper! :D
*_R E A L I S M_*
Nice vid bro, I’m Macedonian 🇲🇰
*Skopjan ;)
@@kostakws another stupid here.. Actually I feel bad about u.. Like poor.. U didn't have history.. U R STEALING from us.. Wish God destroy u
@@petarnikolov1020 Wish you read history and grammar books. Now I feel bad for you :(
@@petarnikolov1020 Have you ever thought that Macedonia (Μακεδονία) in Greek means tall men, or Alexander (Αλέξανδρος) protector of men (Αλεξ=protection+ Άνδρας=man)
@@petarnikolov1020 Ah yes, and Macedonians had Doric origins (Greek tribe) like Spartans. They spoke and wrote Greek with a Doric accent too.
Damn imagine if this was real....
You Can only Imagine😂😂😂😂
Where did Kubrat Khan come from?
11:18 Bro Kumanovo is 110k lol
Well, in an alternate timeline, things change
@@partizanbear552 Kumanovo e vtor najgolem grad.
@@partizanbear552 Ne, Bitola e pogolem. (Po teritorija a po ziteli neznam )
@@slyferchisk Po ziteli sme pogolemi
Kumanovo je 80,000, ne je li?
Wait you can’t make them “tartars” that would be against their claims
its not claimes its true we are macidonians
I meant you called Bulgarians tartars but ok and
@@ivanpetrov5258 we arent bulgarians
dumpsvile yeah you are aliens
@@ivanpetrov5258 no we are macidonians
North part of greece ( south macedonia) are also slav people and there are living macedonian people who before second world war were tortured by greek goverment and greek nationalism was forcibly imposed in macedonian people. Same problem is also with Bulgaria( Now they have pirin macedonia ). You can see on Internet how big was Macedonia before 1913. There were living macedonian people , nor bulgarians nor greeks. I dont say today that pirin part of Macedonia is not bulgarian or south part of Macedonia is not greek, but I can say that I am macedonian living in country Macedonia and I am speaking macedonian language and my nationality exist from 800BC so we have big macedonian history apsolutly different from greek or bulgarian one . From 6th centry slavic people came in macedonian territory and they also were declared as macedonaian people not only slavic people. The biggest problem in Macedonia is that at the end of Ottoman empire we didn’t have leader so we lost our territories. I don’t know why in 21st century we talk about this nationalism things because we balkans live in pretty much poor countries with bad economy and nobody should care about history because nothing can be proven. We need to talk about our present and our future . Thank you for you attention.
Second good video bro
song say macedonia is GREEK
Why they didn't mentioned the Alexander Macedonian? 🤔
So in this scenario Macedonia is a Helleno-Slavic country.
No oh yeah yeah
No is not helleno-slavic ountry
Look here, I'd be very very careful what I'd be saying in this regard, for Greece stepped up when the Turks deserted you as VARDASKA and when the Serbians set you free, where Turkey could not afford to keep you and I'm referring to financially. HELLANISM stepped in and has pumped a lot of money and still is and we're responsible for most if not all of the new buildings that were built and huge shopping centres.
Yes there is a Great profit for Greece but she pumps a lot of money in. Although you have a stolen name, Greece has been your saviour, and what annoys me extremely is that you Bulgars or slavs are very disrespectful in the matter of the subject that your ridiculously obscured insanely infatuation of a large slavic nation stretching as far as HALKIDIKI IS PHYSICALLY SPASMODIC IN YOUR SKEPTICAL SCHEMES which will never happen but I must give you a little credit for your ideological skepticism is not quite as bad as the Albanians who want all of ΕΛΛΙΝΗΣ
RIVER VARDAR --- 25 CENTURIES IN MAKEDONIJA ! !
What was this app?
That's the Greek national song of macedonia
Why is here so many dislikes?
PaToツ because of greeks
Because is resl history
Why tf didn't they rename Macedonia 'Vardarska' though instead of 'North Macedonia'
Never North MACEDONIA!
@Greek royalist mapper
NO JUST MACEDONIA
Greek royalist mapper
It has many reasons
I don’t want a fight man.
I believe that Macedonia isn’t Greek and you no. OK?
I don’t want to fight now...
Greek royalist mapper
But if u want I can write it on DlsC0rd
Best part 05:00 - 06:50 😎🇲🇰🇷🇸, good job bro greatings.
❤️❤️
Respect!
This song is Greek, Maceodonia is Greek, Alexander the Great was Greek, F.YR.O.V is bulgaria and the song says '' Είσαι και θα είσαι ελληνική '' Means You are Greek and you Will be Greek. Get GRekt
@United Macedonia this is not a joke you are slav you are not Macedon you are bulgarian
DONALD TRUMP SAY: Alexandar the great not greek. He was Macedonian.fantasic Macedonia that say DONALT TRUMP greek you cant kill Macedonia 🇲🇰 no America loool 🇲🇰♥️🇺🇸
The anthem Famous Macedonia is Greek, Vardaska has no history I know this is alternate history but still
@@partizanbear552 neither will you,the balkans will have a dark future..
And a dark past too
Green, Badian, Borza). The fact that 50,000 Greeks were fighting Alexander’s Macedonians shows clearly that their loyalty and their numerical superiority lies with Darius and his Persians, not with Alexander and his Macedonians. As Peter Green puts it: “if this was a Greek conquest where were the Greek troops?” Alexander’s conquest can not therefore be at all a Greek conquest, but simply a Macedonian conquest.
Plutarch the life of amelius
For the people which had just forced Antiochus, surnamed the Great, to retire from the rest of Asia, driven him over the Taurus mountains, and shut him up in Syria, where he had been content to buy terms with a payment of fifteen thousand talents; 3 which had a little while before set the Greeks free from Macedonia by crushing Philip in Thessaly.
Titus Livius very clearly distinguishes the Macedonians from the Greeks. In the same book, while writing about the hatred the Greek Athenians had towards the Macedonians from the time of the Macedonian king Philip V, and their desire (with help from Rome) to get rid of the Macedonian slavery, Livius writes:
“…The Greeks of Athens and their allies, their armies and fleets, should so often curse and execrate Philip, his children and his kingdom, his military and naval forces, and the whole race and name of the Macedonians.” (SOURCE: Titus Livius, “History of Rome”, 31, 44).
Titus Quintius Flamininus; a roman commander;
Later, when Philip V of Macedon was professing a desire for peace, Titus made a tender to him of peace and friendship, upon the condition that the Greeks be left to their own laws, and that he should withdraw his garrisons, which he refused to comply with, now after these proposals, the universal belief even of the favorers and partisans of Philip, was, that the Romans came not to fight against the Greeks, but for the Greeks, against the Macedonians.
Book II - Battle of Issus, in Arrian's "The Campaigns of Alexander"
"Darius' Greeks fought to thrust the Macedonians back into the water
and save the day for their left wing, already in retreat, while the
Macedonians, in their turn, with Alexander's triumph plain before their eyes, were determined to equal his success and not forfeit the proud title of invincible, hitherto universally bestowed upon them. The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and
Macedonian." [p.119]
Greek scholars got together and thought “we don’t have a great history but our neighbors the Macedonians do... especially with Alexander. So lets just write some new history on Wikipedia and claim it as Greek”
😂😂
Macedonia and Greece mentioned as 2 separate places, and Macedonians and Greeks mentioned as 2 different ethnicities in the bible in the 1st century
Acts chapter 20:
Through Macedonia and Greece
20 When the uproar had ended, Paul sent for the disciples and, after encouraging them, said goodbye and set out for Macedonia. 2 He traveled through that area, speaking many words of encouragement to the people, and finally arrived in Greece, 3 where he stayed three months. Because some Jews had plotted against him just as he was about to sail for Syria, he decided to go back through Macedonia.
This video is such a joke.The names of the presidents are Greek and you put a greek song on a Video!🤣MACEDONIA IS GREECE!🇬🇷 AND NOBODY CAN'T CHANGE IT...
So basically what you are saying is if I made a video and edited Macedonian song in Greece being built up by Macedonians and that Greece are Macedonians
Is that how it works because apparently you are saying that
Macedonia is Greek kingdom with greek language.
macedonian is not a greek kindom language alexander curse greece ad 1913
@@chris9473 All macedonian artifacts and coins found are written in greek. Try harder.
@@byJessCh Artifacts and Coins? LMAO HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THEM IN REAL LIFE?
@@slyferchisk yes i have seen them on kastoria, at Macedonian museum ( Greek history). Try more harder....
I'm from Macedonia and I'm Bulgarian , try harder
Bro Macedonia is First an Greek word and mean Makedones
Second the Macedonian you maked Here never existed and its never ancient Macedonia
THEY ARE SLAVS
NOT GREEKS
ALSO NORTH MACEDONIA DOESNT HAVE HISTORY THEY CLAIM IT BRO WTF U USED AN GREEK SONG WHO PROVES AND SAY MACEDONIA IS GREECE
Nobody cares lol
@@WTFCDFoxy 2million greek macedonians Care
And half of you comments care
@@ohmakedonos2999 well I don't give af
@@WTFCDFoxy stay brainwashed then
@@ohmakedonos2999 lol
Macedonia is Greek ! This video is wrong. Great Alexander was Greek. This is why he could take place in Olympics. Please don't confuse the people! Macedonia is a Greek region! The name of the country is North Macedonia! Not just Macedonia!!! Please correct it. There is a treatment between Greece and this country for its name. Thank you!
Aleksandar e Makedonec
Very Cool
-is that a UIA flag?-
Dislike
LOL
what happener to the byzantine empire
Macedonia was,is and will be Greek!!!Vardarska is Serbian!!!
Hellenic Exploring Guy Macedonians are Bulgarians The Region is greek
Vardarska or North Macedonia is Bulgarian land bro, learn history and the ''Macedonians'' speaks Bulgarian dialect
@@pr0hackerbg981 yep you are bro
@@distructorivan5773 MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES ! !
bulgari... 140 years.
And why did you use the Greek song seriously I dont want to be bad but this is really racist for us greeks
Ur raicist for calling us gypses fyromians
@@MrOrangeArmy
I hate to break it into ya, but you are as gypsies are Albanians are.
the racist is greeks cant wait if greek rally again make solun ours again
@@chris9473 good englis
@@Jj-or5ix mmm you spelt english wrong
MACEDONIA IS GREECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREECE IS MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)))))
@@alien4841 🤦♂️
@@ΣοφιαΣοφογιαννη South greece(agean macedonia) is Macedonian🇲🇰👌
@@alien4841 Ow god! You cant understand that Macedonia was an ancient greek kingdom.
@@ΣοφιαΣοφογιαννη Any proof Macedonian is Greek?
Where is goce delcev
ова е алтернативна историја
In Bulgaria
@@masu8711 Георги Делчев*
1872 GOCE DELC'EV roden vo Kukus' -- EGEJSKA MAKEDONIJA.
GOCE DELC'EV E MAKEDONEC i MAKEDONSKI REVOLUCIONER ! !
Yes!Someone says it Vardaska!
thanks you brother bulgarian
Nobody owns Macedonia.
i have to said that Macedonia is Rising Sun Imperial Japan version of European.
The history of Macedonia is very similar to this,at some cases ,you were showing our normal history.
Macedonia doesn't have history before 1944
And what is IMRO?Internal Bulgar Revolutionary Organisation?Or something else.What was Car Samuel and the Ohrid Archbishopric ?
this history is Bulgaria and Serbia with Greek anthem 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
love Bulgaria from Greece
billgame stefanis shut up
@@macedonianmapping7206 hallo . wait I know you .I've probably seen some of your videos . it's nice. but okay . it's not the best greetings from Greece . but guys read the history a Little beyond the fun Macedonia is Greek . if you reshearch it will you understand .
billgame stefanis
I believe that Macedonia isn’t Greek..
Everyone has he’s opinion..
But I don’t want to hate each other.
Do you want to be still a friend of mine?
@@macedonianmapping7206 ok
Music 4:40????
The title should be: Alternative "history" of Greek History,Bulgarian Language and Serbian land stealers.
Cringe
@@blagoevski336 all you have to say is "cringe"??? Really?? xD
@@GreekGopnik There's no point on Talking with Greeks (Ethiopians)
@@blagoevski336 nice Slavic conspiracy theories, i have to admit XD
@@GreekGopnik It's the truth
fun fact
0:00-4:33 greek (macedonian and byzantine) history
4:40-8:54 vardar (serbian history)
8:55-end fake hypothetical scenario against greece
in conclusion its not alternate its fake simple
Your brain must be fake.
ratio
@@dylan_not_dillon me no i am not fake, ask someone like you if you are fake😉
Republic of Macedonia!!#MKD :D
Приличаш на татар!
@@HeroManNick132...... laj.
The song is greek.and talks about the Macedonia that is famous. You are what they are.
The fact that the music is about Greek Macedonia , xdddddddddd, a message to Vardaska
"The President may give you a name, but the people of true Macedonia give nothing and if you continue ,sorry but there are going to be wars.
NO MY BROTHER, THEY HAVE ONLY ONE LEG TO STAND ON, AND SECONDLY GREECE PUMPS, A LOT OF MONEY IN AND BASICALLY OWNS THAT ENTIRE AREA.
You know history?
Macedonia forever Greece🇬🇷
You wish mate
No
@@ivan19119 The REGION Macedonia
@@ivan19119 btw FYROM is Bulgarian
@@ГеоргиПетров-т6ц Not.
Before, Bulgaria was a small country. And FYROM existed before Bulgaria.
Hey. This guy kuber. Did he existed in our timeline
Yeah , he is 1340 years now. Feel old yet.
Macedonia🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
🇹🇷🤜🇬🇷
@@arpacayalp9707 🗿🇬🇷🤜🏳️🌈🇹🇷
@@yazovgaming 🤣
We never used the greek alphabet
Yes bulgarians never used the greek alphabet but this is an alternative history.Think about it as a video with the title ''If fyrom had real history and not propaganda''
@@comingafteryou5352 Macedonia has a rich history. You albo-turks need to stop stealing it.
@@eddienastovski8163 Yes the greek region of Macedonia has a rich history but you don't bulgarian.
@@comingafteryou5352 Explain why only 200 years ago your mob was only speaking albanian and had to be taught what sounds like houso Spanish. Then you got a bavarian to be your king and you took on the british slave trading flag. Look it up, toad.
@@eddienastovski8163 Lol we didn't speak albanian we continue speaking greek through out the milleniums.You on the other hand except that you were speaking bulgarian as bulgarians might have spoke albanian too since you are 30-40% albanians lol.Yes we had a bavarian king and what's your point?As for the flag no it wasn't the same as the british company of east india unlike yours who is a replica of imperial Japan.Learn some history brainwashed bulgarian.
Macedonia is Greece! Macedonia is forever Greece!
Thank you bro 👊
MAKEDONIA IS GREECE 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
MAKEDONIJA IS MAKEDONIJA. ..... gr @.
this is greek song
Alexander the Great = 🇲🇰
No proof.
@@Euro.Patriot yes🤫
Yees 🇲🇰♥️
@@alien4841 He's Greek.
Hahahahahahahahahah 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great joke, come on say one more!
Btw I cant stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ah, good vid.
Macedônia 🇲🇰 é muito bom 😊 para viajar e conhecer esse país!
They have like 0 tourists lmao
@@vasilis_t4608 your channel has like 4 subscribers lmao
@@macedoniangamer2703 lmao what's the point🤣🤣
Cool video but you didnt mention Alexander the great
macedonia is greek
People seriously need to chill the fuck out. This is just an alternate history video. So please, for the love of god, be nationalist elsewhere, this took a very long time to make.
But, Macedonia was Bulgarian
.............. you is..... carrot.
Exactly and they are still bulgarians in denial
The only history NorMac will ever have independent of Serbia and Bulgaria lol