8:00 Viewers, don't miss the link to a free PDF of the 2006 _Fābellae Latínae_ in the video description! It is accessible after all, or at least it is now. Actually, there's a little bit more to the story so I might as well share the details here. The Hackett PDF is a PDF of the 2006 _Fábellae Latínae_ book, which consists of 30 stories covering chapters 1-25. But there is also a version showing a later, 2009 date which just over doubles the number of stories keyed to chs. 1-25 and also adds twelve stories keyed to (some of) the later chapters in _Familia Rómána_ . So unlike the 2006 edition its coverage overlaps that of _Fábulae Syrae_ , a little. The new stories were presumably by Luigi Miraglia as the 2009 edition asserts a joint copyright between him and Ørberg, while the 2006 edition claims copyright for Ørberg alone. (But in fact Miraglia also seems to be credited with two stories in the 2006 edition, while Milena Minkova is credited with five of them.) There are also some changes, sometimes signficant changes, to the original stories. Nonetheless it claims the same ISBN as the 2006 edition, which is a very incorrect use of an ISBN number. That and a few other things make it seem likely that this 2009 "edition" was never officially released, and may just have been handout material for classes. And in fact it seems there was also at least one *other* version, _Fábellae Latínae terminatiónes addendae_ dated 2007, which is the 2006 edition with many word endings omitted, making it another exercise book for _Familia Rómána_ (or for some of it, in this case).
Thank you for taking the time to put this introduction together. As a self-learner I look forward to your video on what you find objectionable in the Companion guide. I have consulted it from time to time, but I look forward to hearing from someone far more knowledgeable on the subject than I, as to it's limitations or errors. Thanks again!
Check out the UA-cam channel ScorpioMartianus, there Lucius talks only Latin and attic Greek and has recorded all of LLPSI twice. Once in good quality and the second time in even better quality
A very useful video. Just a note: a lot of the extra reading texts in Miraglia's "Nova Via Latine Doceo" (maybe more than half) are actually in the "Fabellae" collection.
So I'm assuming, one needs to know the Latin letters and it's pronunciation as prerequisite to begin this book?
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As you can see in the video. There are many official and unofficial recordings (using the two main pronunciations worldwide), and in the Latine disco and Companion include explanations about the pronunciations. So you can learn all as you go.
Hello I have a problem, I really need the answer key for Roma Aeterna and I cant find it anywhere, so I'm going through the Exercitia without knowing whether my answers are correct or not. Do you have any idea of where can I find it? ayudaaaaa
En los cdrom. Si tienes acceso, busca en la biblioteca de tu ciudad o la de una universidad de letras. También los venden en Internet sobre los 25 euros
What I’m doing is playing two different books against each other: the first Lingua Latina book vs Ecce Romani I. Sure, I could’ve gotten the companion book for Lingua Latina or I could’ve picked one series or the other. But I’m comfortable with using one textbook to work with the other.
If you search for it on UA-cam the top result will be the most widely used and recommended one, Luke Ranieri's. I wouldn't worry that much about the ethics of it: Domus Latína, Hackett's etc. have had years to take the videos down and haven't, so presumably they're fairly happy with the situation. Ranieri has probably been responsible for many sales of _Familia Rómána_ .
Can you review Cambridge Latin Course or Ecce Romani?
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We have been considering making a video series about the alternatives to LLPSI, the problem is that we aren't absolutely sure that either CLC or Ecce Romani or even the Oxford Latin Course or Reading Latin could even be considered alternatives to LLPSI. The only real alternative is Rico's FORUM. The difference between the rest is just far too big, they would be rather "complements" instead of "alternatives" to LLPSI, the problem then would be that LLPSI already has it's own complements. Sure Ecce Romani has beautiful images, the story of the Oxford course is fantastic and the Cambridge Course has very well chosen vocabulary but we are still unsure about as to the wording of a review of books that we don't consider essential, perhaps not even necessary at all, while emphasising their positive qualities. We welcome of course any testimonials and feedback.
I meant in a review in general, it doesn't have to be a comparison to LLPSI. Anyway I really like this channel because I try to look at any Latin or Greek textbook I can find, just to see how each one teaches the language. ^^ Keep up the good work!
@@yumerchASMR I'm on the last book in Cambridge (5) and have almost finished FR. While they are incomparable in terms of quality, I have to say the Cambridge course makes for an excellent graded reader in conjunction with LLPSI. Also, it has amazing online tools. Thoroughly recommended.
@@travelsinchinese640 I've done the same as you. Worked through all 5 books in the Cambridege Latin course and now finishing FR. I like CLC for it's well-written stories. I even think they are sometimes better than the stories in FR. But in any case, it's really good to tackle Latin from different angles. The strange thing about the CLC is that they don't teach the supine, the imperative future, the gerund nor the future passive infinitive. There should be a sixth book.
Where can we buy or download the italian books mentioned at the end, and the enormous italian version of latine disco? Preferably download a pdf, if anyone has an idea where it can be found...
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You can buy them directly from the publishers in Italy vivariumnovum.it/catalogo/latino/corso-base Or through Amazon.it or libreriaaurea.com/
Thank you very much for this excellent video. At the moment I'm personally working through Lhomond's "Epitome Historiae Sacrae" (and enjoying it immensely!). But can you please tell me if an answer book exists for the exercises in this?
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Paul Scott, there is an answer key in pdf for the exercises of the Epitome... but you have to request it with the American publisher (www.hackettpublishing.com/lingua-latina-per-se-illustrata-series/lingua-latina-epitome-historiae-sacrae), as far as I know there’s no answer key for the Fabulae Syrae. If you have gone through Familia Romana and solved the Exercitia and Pensa, you should have no trouble at all with the exercises in the Epitome and Fabulae, trust in yourself and enjoy it 😉 We’re currently working on a forum, it’ll be online soon so you can post any questions regarding any LLPSI book.
This was excellent! Thank you so much! I just ordered the Grammatica di consultazione, which I didn't have. I can't wait to see what you say about Roma aeterna...
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Thanks! I'm glad I could help. Is there any particular reason why you choose the Grammatica instead of the Latīnē discō?
I like the way the Italian version lists examples of the grammar points taken from Familia Romana and Roma aeterna directly under the syntactic and grammatical denominations. It looks quite useful.
Colin Magnier I've the same question. I'm using both the LLPSI: Familia Romana and the Lingva Latina: a companion to Familia Romana and it's going well.
8:00 Viewers, don't miss the link to a free PDF of the 2006 _Fābellae Latínae_ in the video description! It is accessible after all, or at least it is now. Actually, there's a little bit more to the story so I might as well share the details here.
The Hackett PDF is a PDF of the 2006 _Fábellae Latínae_ book, which consists of 30 stories covering chapters 1-25. But there is also a version showing a later, 2009 date which just over doubles the number of stories keyed to chs. 1-25 and also adds twelve stories keyed to (some of) the later chapters in _Familia Rómána_ . So unlike the 2006 edition its coverage overlaps that of _Fábulae Syrae_ , a little. The new stories were presumably by Luigi Miraglia as the 2009 edition asserts a joint copyright between him and Ørberg, while the 2006 edition claims copyright for Ørberg alone. (But in fact Miraglia also seems to be credited with two stories in the 2006 edition, while Milena Minkova is credited with five of them.) There are also some changes, sometimes signficant changes, to the original stories. Nonetheless it claims the same ISBN as the 2006 edition, which is a very incorrect use of an ISBN number. That and a few other things make it seem likely that this 2009 "edition" was never officially released, and may just have been handout material for classes.
And in fact it seems there was also at least one *other* version, _Fábellae Latínae terminatiónes addendae_ dated 2007, which is the 2006 edition with many word endings omitted, making it another exercise book for _Familia Rómána_ (or for some of it, in this case).
"in this case" Pun intended?
Thank you for taking the time to put this introduction together. As a self-learner I look forward to your video on what you find objectionable in the Companion guide. I have consulted it from time to time, but I look forward to hearing from someone far more knowledgeable on the subject than I, as to it's limitations or errors.
Thanks again!
I'm using both the LLPSI: Familia Romana and the Lingva Latina: a companion to Familia Romana and it's going well.
Where can I find the cd version of the exercises?
Check out the UA-cam channel ScorpioMartianus, there Lucius talks only Latin and attic Greek and has recorded all of LLPSI twice. Once in good quality and the second time in even better quality
A very useful video.
Just a note: a lot of the extra reading texts in Miraglia's "Nova Via Latine Doceo" (maybe more than half) are actually in the "Fabellae" collection.
Excellent review of Ørberg’s colossal project.
This is so helpful. Thank you so much.
So I'm assuming, one needs to know the Latin letters and it's pronunciation as prerequisite to begin this book?
As you can see in the video. There are many official and unofficial recordings (using the two main pronunciations worldwide), and in the Latine disco and Companion include explanations about the pronunciations. So you can learn all as you go.
@ Thank you
Hello I have a problem, I really need the answer key for Roma Aeterna and I cant find it anywhere, so I'm going through the Exercitia without knowing whether my answers are correct or not. Do you have any idea of where can I find it? ayudaaaaa
En los cdrom. Si tienes acceso, busca en la biblioteca de tu ciudad o la de una universidad de letras. También los venden en Internet sobre los 25 euros
What I’m doing is playing two different books against each other: the first Lingua Latina book vs Ecce Romani I.
Sure, I could’ve gotten the companion book for Lingua Latina or I could’ve picked one series or the other. But I’m comfortable with using one textbook to work with the other.
Wait there's an audiobook version of this? Could anybody with les moral scruples please link the best one?
If you search for it on UA-cam the top result will be the most widely used and recommended one, Luke Ranieri's. I wouldn't worry that much about the ethics of it: Domus Latína, Hackett's etc. have had years to take the videos down and haven't, so presumably they're fairly happy with the situation. Ranieri has probably been responsible for many sales of _Familia Rómána_ .
I would also highly recommend Daniel Pettersson's recordings on Legentibus.
I know that this channel is manly for Latin but do you know other book that uses this method to other languages?
Yes, there are for French, Italian and English vivariumnovum.it/risorse-didattiche/propria-formazione/metodo-diretto-applicato-alle-lingue-moderne
Thanks for the review. If I may ask, are you Spanish?
Can you do a review on the new app Xochi? It's still under construction but I would like to hear your thoughts on it's Latin lesson's
Can you review Cambridge Latin Course or Ecce Romani?
We have been considering making a video series about the alternatives to LLPSI, the problem is that we aren't absolutely sure that either CLC or Ecce Romani or even the Oxford Latin Course or Reading Latin could even be considered alternatives to LLPSI. The only real alternative is Rico's FORUM. The difference between the rest is just far too big, they would be rather "complements" instead of "alternatives" to LLPSI, the problem then would be that LLPSI already has it's own complements.
Sure Ecce Romani has beautiful images, the story of the Oxford course is fantastic and the Cambridge Course has very well chosen vocabulary but we are still unsure about as to the wording of a review of books that we don't consider essential, perhaps not even necessary at all, while emphasising their positive qualities. We welcome of course any testimonials and feedback.
I meant in a review in general, it doesn't have to be a comparison to LLPSI.
Anyway I really like this channel because I try to look at any Latin or Greek textbook I can find, just to see how each one teaches the language. ^^ Keep up the good work!
@@yumerchASMR I'm on the last book in Cambridge (5) and have almost finished FR. While they are incomparable in terms of quality, I have to say the Cambridge course makes for an excellent graded reader in conjunction with LLPSI. Also, it has amazing online tools. Thoroughly recommended.
@@travelsinchinese640 I've done the same as you. Worked through all 5 books in the Cambridege Latin course and now finishing FR. I like CLC for it's well-written stories. I even think they are sometimes better than the stories in FR. But in any case, it's really good to tackle Latin from different angles. The strange thing about the CLC is that they don't teach the supine, the imperative future, the gerund nor the future passive infinitive. There should be a sixth book.
I also own "Fabulae Syrae" but haven't read it yet. Can one purchase an answer book for this?
Do you know any classic Greek courses like llpsi?
ua-cam.com/video/0W0rgKnuuiU/v-deo.html
@ thanks a lot, but athenaze is not so good as llpis...
@ thanks a lot, but athenaze is not so good as llpis...
True, but as far as I know, it's most definitely the closest thing there is, as I explained on the video.
@ yes, thanks again
Where can we buy or download the italian books mentioned at the end, and the enormous italian version of latine disco? Preferably download a pdf, if anyone has an idea where it can be found...
You can buy them directly from the publishers in Italy vivariumnovum.it/catalogo/latino/corso-base
Or through Amazon.it or libreriaaurea.com/
Thank you very much for this excellent video. At the moment I'm personally working through Lhomond's "Epitome Historiae Sacrae" (and enjoying it immensely!). But can you please tell me if an answer book exists for the exercises in this?
Paul Scott, there is an answer key in pdf for the exercises of the Epitome... but you have to request it with the American publisher (www.hackettpublishing.com/lingua-latina-per-se-illustrata-series/lingua-latina-epitome-historiae-sacrae), as far as I know there’s no answer key for the Fabulae Syrae. If you have gone through Familia Romana and solved the Exercitia and Pensa, you should have no trouble at all with the exercises in the Epitome and Fabulae, trust in yourself and enjoy it 😉
We’re currently working on a forum, it’ll be online soon so you can post any questions regarding any LLPSI book.
This was excellent! Thank you so much! I just ordered the Grammatica di consultazione, which I didn't have.
I can't wait to see what you say about Roma aeterna...
Thanks! I'm glad I could help. Is there any particular reason why you choose the Grammatica instead of the Latīnē discō?
I like the way the Italian version lists examples of the grammar points taken from Familia Romana and Roma aeterna directly under the syntactic and grammatical denominations. It looks quite useful.
Plus, I already have the Latine disco. 😉
Gratias ago for the explanation!
Why do you not agree with the companion book??
Colin Magnier I've the same question. I'm using both the LLPSI: Familia Romana and the Lingva Latina: a companion to Familia Romana and it's going well.
@@Aditya-te7oo yes it has helped me a lot also. Paired with UA-cam videos on Grammer I have made good progress, currently on chapter 34.
@@colinmagnier1232 Wow man chapter 34!!! Yesterday I finished the chapter 11.
Gratias tibi ago. Deus vobiscum.
Thank you for this. Usually I'm OK. It's just occasionally that I'd like to check that what I've put is correct.
En François