I think that Vegito would be too prideful to defuse. It's Vegeta that wanted to never fuse again, and Goku who wanted to fuse because he knew they needed to. Vegito, being his own new being, probably wouldn't want to disappear.
I like that answer, to add to it though: I feel like Vegito would never defuse because of a mix of Vegeta's Pride and Goku's sense of Duty. Vegito is the most powerful being ever shown in Dragon Ball, he is a perfect melding of mind, body, and spirit for the two most powerful Sayians that have ever been. I could see Vegito toying with the though of diffusion during the peace time between the end of the Buu Saga and the arrival of Beerus, but after finding out that there are other Universes and literal GODS of destruction that inhabit them, splitting would be out of the question due to the threats presented with Beerus' arrival.
I agree with this, especially if we are talking about after the meeting with Beerus. That would be about 2 years after the events of Buu Saga, maybe more. That's a lot of time of Vegito being his own thing. Vegeta and Goku as separate persons might be just background noise.
Diamonddeath I don’t think this would happen, Vegito is a character who is cocky but only when he knows he can be. He was a character who knew exactly what to do and when to act serious. The only reason he acted cocky with Buu was because he wanted to piss buu off until he could be absorbed by him in person. But he knew exactly what to do when to do it, and he knew exactly when to be cocky and how to be cocky. He wouldn’t have been prideful about wanting to stay fused, he would most likely decide to defuse knowing it was the right thing to do for everyone. Meaning Vegito would not want to defuse, he would prefer to. And as mentioned in this video, Vegito doesn’t have goku and vegeta’s personality, he actually has his own personality.
Chi chi: this blows!! Bulma: yeah at first there was some novelty in bed but now it just feels wrong Chi chi: if only there was a way to fix this Bulma: where does he keep his spare earrings? Bulchi is born!!!
Most people: "They're fused forever? How does their consciousness work? Do Goku's mind and Vegeta's mind still exist separately or have they been fused into one mixed bag of sentience? Does he ever have internal conflicts due to the vastly different personalities in the one body? Do these personalities make him somewhat bipolar or do they cancel each other out? Does Goku obtain all the knowledge and memories of Vegeta and vice versa or do they somehow remain separate? Me: "WILL THEY FUCK CHI-CHI OR BULMA"
I'm pretty sure their minds fuse as well with how well they were able to move around and think properly, if they both had their minds in the same head they couldn't function as a person properly because of how differently they act and move as themselves. As for the personalities I think it's taking the best/dominate parts of both and putting them together, because they were both full blooded saiyans they are extremely over confident with their power but also had Gokus calm nature along with Vegetas experience as a warrior which complements both. As for who they will fuck, it's obvious they will be constantly having three ways with how they fought over whose husband was better that one time.
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No dbz kakarot shows you can have 2 people of the same from different times. Also I think they might have just summoned a super saiyan with whis and or shenron
@@farmerwiththeshotgun142 Yeah in dbz kakarot it says they used Future Trunks, Trunks, Goten, Goku and Gohan. Or after Battle of gods they did the same ritual with vegeta becoming god instead of goku.
Vegito is more like Vegeta. With the name, the cocky personality, the "toying with enemy," personality, and the usage of the name Kakarot rather than Goku.
Soulless Flame I think Gogeta is more like Goku in that he has a really laid back approach to fighting but knows when it’s time to get serious and to end it.
Now cannon Gogeta refers to goku as kakarot But i do think Vegeta is the dominant personality in Vegito with his attacks and fighting style But with the craftyness of Goku
Vegito knows when to relax, though. Vegeta does not. That is definitely a Goku trait. Also, Goku does refer to himself as Kakarot when meeting Broly. Other notes: Goku is remarkably smart, but only in a fight.
I think of Vegito as an individual, a single person with his own mind. I imagine he wouldn't split since it's essentially suicide. Plus we all know how obsessed Saiyans are with being powerful, he'd def want to keep his ultimate form. I imagine at this point he wouldn't even think of himself as two people, he sees himself as "Vegito" and not a fusion.
No Goku was just so much more powerful to Kefla making her defuse with his Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! so powerful it hit 3 times
Going to battle of gods arc, with Goku's Instant transmission and Vegeta's knowledge of his brothers energy signature couldn't he grab Tarble and use him for the ritual? just a thought.
Funny that, while SSG Vegito would be way weaker than Beerus in the anime (so, canonwise), but in the movie where SSG Goku's power was similar to 70% of Beerus's power, SSG Vegito would absolutely clap Beerus
@@sembarangjaknama it is. Are you actually joking? Xenoverse 2 is a mess. A trainwreck just boarding Super Heroes. The first one was cool on what it was doing, but come the second one with the mask BS and Super Mira and, c'mon, you can pretend that's "better".
I think we all know from Vegito's trademark, joyous "ALL RIGHT!" whenever he appears that he loves existing, which makes me think that Goku and Vegeta do both enjoy being one being (even if the latter acts like he hates it).
I don’t think Ultra Instinct would be realized as easily as it was in Super. Vegito wouldn’t fall to Jiren so easily like Goku did, so it’s anyone’s guess if Vegito in SSB Kaioken X20 would be able to knock him out or not.
Will 2139 it would've actually achieved ultra instict easily, he's not too tense nor relaxed, and he is the fusion of who got the UI (Goku) and Vegeta,it would pretty well
Probably just would've gotten it by training with Whis alone being Vegeta who sometimes attacks sheerly out of anger and impulse but also being quite relaxed from Goku So Kefla happens and Vegito probs still having a lot of stamina likely uses only SSJ2 and crushes her Jiren requires Ultra instinct but probably already mastered so Vegito wins And then U6 is brought back the the super dragon balls
its a good idea. Either, Vegito is such a great martial artist that he is able to achieve UI EASIER than Goku did, or he is so strong that as you said, he's able to take out Jiren with SSB Kaioken x 20 -- or even SSB Evolution.
After 4+ years I'd wonder if Vegito would want to defuse. At that point he'd have grown into an individual, and with the power lust from both Goku and Vegeta's original personalities he might stay fused on the basis of his sheer strength alone. There might be pressure from others to defuse but neither Goku nor Vegeta give into pressure easily so I'm not sure even that would have an effect. Also seeing the interactions between Future Trunks and Vegito would be a fun twist.
I don't think Vegetto would defuse. I think Bulma talks to Whis how to undo the fusion.Whis says he has an answer but it comes with a price - a deliciouse one. After he and Beerus ate a whole dinnertable full of food, they tell her that they could use the Dragonballs to separate them. Bulma talks with ChiChi about it and they decide to wish them apart. Shenron is summoned and they say:" We wish that the fusion that make our husbands into one man to be over". The mighty dragon replys:" The wish cannot be granted. Both Goku an Vegeta don't want to be split. Do you have another wish?". Then Mr.Satan rushes to the place and demands that Good Buu should be revived. His wish is granted and both Bulma and ChiChi are upset with the results.
But if that were the case, then it wouldn't even matter. One of them, presumably chichi, has more mental strength. Meaning that Bulma would be forced into becoming a backseat driver, and the entire thing would've just been pointless.
Ya and? Vegeta is a genius compared to Goku and yet most of the time it's Goku's personality that shines through most, Will and Smarts are not the same thing. Bulma is constantly scared and having others do most of the work for her which I wouldn't really consider as 'Strong Willed', Chi-chi on the other hand is a fighter and went for what she wanted herself with out any fear. I would think they would be a great combination, not really getting all that much stronger but it's still a perfect match up of brains and brawn. Not like that matters though seeing as they would just be there to invent things and pump out babies like Toriyama intended all women to do in DBZ.
I personally think that Vegito would stay fused - after living so long in their fused state he would have grown used to it and most likely wouldn't see himself as a fusion of 2 people anymore. If the option to defuse was ever offered he would most likely refuse, because if he did then he would no longer exist.
Dude there is so much more you can do with. Like when vegito and Beerus fight, vegito pushed Beerus to a limit where he uses hakai, whis notices this and takes them to a proper arena to fight to prevent destruction. They fight equally. This forces vegito and Beerus to train together under whis. Further on vegito unlock vegito blue and Beerus ULTRA INSTINCT because he was finally being pushed to his limits despite being a God.
but wait, if zamasu took goku's body in the future does that mean he now takes vegito's body instead and we would get vegito black and super saiyan rosé vegito. also can a fused character fuse with somebody else like zamasu?, I demand a part 2 for this one
he took goku's body before goku knew anything about super saiyan god. you can see he's in the field working, and that was at the very beginning of dragon ball super
Doughriddos Goku Black still achieved Rosé even though he took Goku's body before Goku knew of god ki. I don't see why the same couldn't happen Vegito in this scenario
I think it doesn't matter whether they stay fused or not. With the time spent together brought them closer together and more in sync, making a un-fused duo much stronger. Or the fused duo would simply be powerful enough to deal with most threats on his own (with Vegeta taking out most of Goku's big flaws). Cant wait for Vegeto blue kai-o-ken.
SirJMO he can't refuse... Ever again because he already reached a godly power and if he goes kaioken his fusion will be gone before it even started and that's why I think Gogeta would win in powers
Also, would Frieza destroy the Earth before Vegito kills him? If so, what would happen if Whis decides to rewind time? I could imagine Beerus intervening even though he said that he wouldn't, only to say to Frieza that the Earth had too much delicious food to let it be destroyed, but I'm not sure. Thoughts?
kefla vs UI vegito ui vegito plays with kefla kefla get angry vegito gets board so he powers up vegitos ki destroyed the rocks vegitos now going to kick kefla out vegito is confused becasue kefla can't be found Grand Priest: universe 6 kefla dropped out
@@smartesttemmie she went from no forms to ssj2 in less than an hourr from just a tingly feeling in her back, making all the loss and rage the saiyans took just to get to ssj seem useless
@@3juliano680Now, if some new Saiyan dude had done that instead, none of y'all would complain. That's loss and rage that don't apply to her, it's a different Damn universe!
I love how Masako always uses the real Japanese spelling at first in his videos (Freeza, Vegetto) but then is like "oh shit I forgot about the American audience" and changes it to "Frieza" or "Vegito" 😂
Broly: Kakarot and prince Vegeta? With EARINGS?!? Goku: Let's do it vegeta Vegeta: DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO *goku and vegeta fuse* Vegito: Broly run Broly: GO TO HELL KAKAROOOOOOOOOOOOT
One problem with your analysis about the Potara knowledge to the Kais, Masako; it wasn't Shin who failed to realize there was a time limit, but the Elder Kai. Now, it could be said that he simply (conveniently) forgot, as he is rather aloof, or that he came from an age where perhaps no mortal had ever tried using it before and the knowledge of it being temporary with mortal mixes was simply discovered later on down the line, but that's about it.
9:07 I think Vegito would have been "terrified but amazed at the same time" like "I know who he was but i don't know who he is now. I think i will have the guard up just in case"
I'd say they'd stay fused. Vegeta who was scared of Beerus would be pretty psyched that his current form could match him and I don't think Goku would want to handicap himself just as he gets the opportunity to fight stronger guys. Though you did gloss over something pretty important. Bulma and Chi Chi.... their reactions to this would be interesting... Maybe Chi Chi likes this form better than Goku, maybe she gets pregnant again. Maybe even Bulma does too leading to a bitter rivalry of Vegettos' wives. Just that topic alone could make an entire video. What would a child of Vegetto be like?
With Bulma and Chichi I think it would be similar to Dragon ball multiverse, where Chichi let Bulma have Vegeto because Goku was already dead and Bulma still had Vegeta around, and she wouldn't want to take him away from Trunks and Bulma.
You know, at the Beerus part where Vegito is fighting as SSG, it would have been good if he killed Beerus and became the God of Destruction and therefore giving other fighters a chance to shine
David Guthrie well SSG I don't think would've been able to beat Beerus but would've made Beerus use a lot of his power. At SSB vegito is probably stronger and Whis is just working to get Ultra Instinct Vegito rather than a new god of destruction as He never trained Goku or Vegeta to use energy of destruction. Whis is like Beerus I'm not gonna train someone to beat you, I'm gonna train them to beat me.
Well, the keyword there was 'selfish', as in, by themselves. Both Vegeta and, to a less vocal extent, Goku hate having to rely on another's powers, almost to the point of risking assured destruction. Goku just so happened to be altruistic enough in the past to understand when he needs to do what's necessary and, with enough poking and prodding, even Vegeta knows when to swallow at least a little of his pride and take one for the team. And this is all before Toei really started playing up Goku's base saiyan/selfish nature. We saw how hard it was to get Vegeta to agree to the fusion when it was just him being stubborn. Now Goku is only about a step above him in heroism, even he's in the "I'm only doing this because I really, really have to" boat. So now we got two of the most strong willed personalities in universe 7 stuck in a situation neither one really wants to be in; I mean: Vegeta having to share a body with Kakorot, both consciousness are fully aware that there power was only manifested because of the fusion and not as a result of dedication and training, and not to mention, Vegito would have no real rivals. Yeah there's Whis and Beerus as benchmarkers, but trying to call either one a rival is like a novice martial artist calling Jet Li their rival. Yeah, they may make the best of it and rationalize it so that it doesn't feel so hopeless, but if given a way out, you can bet they're gonna take it with little to no hesitation, especially if they know they could just do it again if the need arises.
Call it selfish if you will but I don't imagine that Vegito would defuse because, potara fusion would have the two of them talking in his mind, (even if that is how TFS will probably do fusion) it combines them and leaves an entirely new entity if the personalities are equal in strength, which Goku's and Vegeta's would be, making Vegito his own person. Meaning that if he defused that would equal nonexistence for him, which is a terrifying thought for anyone.
Honestly, it's kinda unclear whether or not Tarble is canon to DBS. Unlike in the Battle of Gods movie, he wasn't mentioned when they did the ritual in the show. Either Tarble doesn't exist, or he does exist, but the special he appeared in is non-canon
Hey Masako, I think think your thought on Vegito counting as two actually has a bit of truth to it The thing is, Videl was able to join in because she was pregnant with a Saiyan baby (Pan), so she was able to count as the one With this thought in mind, it would be plausible to say it's determined by number more than it is person With Vegito being the combination of two people, the count would be in the acceptable amount to still pull it off So...... yeah, your 'narrative convenience' has solid back up to it
Dominic E-F Is Uub really human though? I always considered him more of a mystical being rather than human given that he's the reincarnation of Kid Buu.
I think that, just for the joke, it'd be Yajirobe. Nobody wanted to come, so only him was left. "Don't worry Beerus-Sama, despite his looks he's pretty strong, maybe even more than Monaka."
Yes, but he's the product of two people- Thus technically giving him two souls, and being the equivalent of two Saiyans. I personally would believe two.
I love these What Ifs and I have one to add: What if Goku's pod had landed on Namek? What if he had never shown up on Earth and been raised by the Namekians? That would VASTLY alter the entire series and I'd love to see how you handle it.
Here's the problem. Would they have achieved SSJ Blue without their rivalry? In Super, Vegeta went first in order to catch up to Goku who, at minimum maintained a power boost from the God form. Goku follows, because it's a cool idea. Fused, Vegetto already has that boost and no incentive to train with Whis. Vegeta attempting to surpass Goku is what's driven them for so long. They still have their Saiyan drive, but without a rival to surpass, I don't think they'd train as hard.
vegito would be alot closer to beerus strength so that may be a goal and while they wouldent train as hard they would still go with whiss for the sheer purpose of getting stronger and this fusion is two saiyans so its double the drive to get stronger
Carl Rood Beerus is stronger and so is whiss. That's Vegettos motivation. In this version it won't be whiss training goku and vegeta but instead whiss training Beerus and vegetto.
Beerus tells Vegito that making a wish with the Dragon Balls should defuse him back into the two Saiyans that created him. Shenron is summoned and Vegito wishes to be defused but there is a problem and Shenron says "The power of Goku and Vegeta has merged so perfectly that now Vegito himself is now his own individual being and asking to defuse him would be asking to erase him from all existence along with the two Saiyans that reside within him. I may possess the power to bring the dead back to life but bring a being back into existence is beyond even the power of any Dragon in this Universe. I'm sorry." Shenron is sent away and Vegito is left depressed for a time. But after awhile he accepts this fact of his existence and finds Whis with Bulma walking around Capsule Corp and asks Whis to train him to get stronger. And from there the series proceeds as it has just without Goku and Vegeta.
Three things to consider.. One, why don't Bulma and Chi-Chi fuse so they can both have Vegito? (Plus Goten and Trunks could too!) Two, what about the Universe 6 Arc there would be small changes there. And finally, the Goku Black Arc! For one it WOULDN'T be Goku Black but Vegito Black! And that's not even including Universe Survival!
7:17 I get the feeling They, alongside wishing good buu back, would have tried to wish the fusion to be undone. Still everyone would have been stuck with Vegito for a whole peaceful year. So shenanigans are likely to ensue
Vegeto SSG couldn't happen in this instance. but they could possibly make gohan or one of the kids a SSG. I don't think you could have a half-SSG in Vegeto. HOWEVER Vegito is insanely strong on his own, so maybe he entertains Beerus enough to avoid destruction and have Whis train him. Then they could finally unlock god form and surpass Beerus and possibly Whis.
because you need 5 saiyans dumping their spirit into 1 saiyan. 4 saiyans dumping their spirit into 2 saiyans fused wouldn't work. remember in BoG they failed the first time because they only had 5 saiyans total?
Just grab Vegeta's brother Tarble in place of Vegeta in this timeline. By actually keeping in contact with him this time around. Therefore still able to perfrom the ritual.
Edgardo J. Cruz yeah maybe but DBS has gone to great lengths to de-cannonized Tarble by saying that Goku and Vegeta are the only full saiyans still alive and being very careful not to mention Tarble ever existing. Cabba is the new Tarble.
Really? I thought Tarble was briefly mentioned after they found out they needed another Saiyan to complete the ritual. IIRC Krillin said something like "Vegeta, what about your brother?" and Vegeta said that he had no idea where Tarble was or how to contact him.
Well this explains why Zamasu didn't merge correctly with Goku Black, since Goku Black was technically mortal, the Patora Fusion wasn't stable so Zamasu ended up looking like a freak
I need part 2 of this until or beyond the current storyline, where Vegito decided to stay fused. He would demolish at ToP. Or make it 3parter with part 2 having Vegito and part 3 continues from here without Vegito but Goku and Vegeta being 2 separate people again.
I feel that the fusion would stick as they feel that there may be more people as powerful as Beerus, and with fear for what could happen if those kinds of people came to earth
if I can add the two cents joke. if Vegetto stayed fused, to whom would he be married? goku's wife? vegeta's wife? bigamy anybody? would trunks and goten become brothers? there's also another important matter. as seen in DBZ (when goku was given the potara) even if you remove them you stay fused and somebody else can use them. so, what would happen if vegetto potara fused with mystic gohan? how powerful would they become? but the killer question is... what if goten and trunks used the regular fusion and then while fused used the potara to fuse with gohan? what would happen once the regular fusion between goten and trunks ends? what if the potara fusion between gotenks and mystic gohan potara fused with vegetto? would anybody dream of defeating such an absurdly powerful warrior? what if he became a ssj blue or, even worse, attained ultra instinct? oh my god. a fusion between goku, vegeta, gohan, goten and trunks using ultra instinct. would there be any god able to defeat him/them/it/whatever?
I thought that fusion retcon made a lot of sense, like The Kais didn't know because no one ever experienced it before, never needed mortals to fuse before.
There's an interview with the creators of Gogeta who say that Gogeta is stronger but due to the shorter time limit for Fusion Dance he would lose to Vegito in a prolonged battle.
Super Otaku Magazine Issue #297 Toriyama-san has agreed to answer some questions for us today. Much thanks to Toriyama-san after the craze on the Majin Buu period. (Do note that this was not a cover story, and thus, short). Nirazaki: Many fans have given positive feedback over the Majin Buu period. The inclusion of fusion was an unexpected twist. What gave you the idea? Toriyama-san: Well in order to have a villain with so much strength, you need someone around that can rival him. Majin Buu is incredibly strong. Its not easy to create a character that can keep up. So I thought of making the characters fuse to create new characters without taking the focus off the main characters. Nirazaki: There have been many changes since the Saiya-jins came to earth. Do you ever think about the progress? Toriyama-san: Yes I do. Doragonboru has come a long way. They went from running at super speed to moving at the speed of light! (Laughs) Nirazaki: There was uproar over the rematch between Son Goku and Bejita. Were you planning this the entire time? Toriyama-san: (Laughs) It was more of a crowd pleaser. Son Gokuu and Bejita didnt have the opportunity to fight in the Seru period, and with a new saga to start with, it would not be hard to work in that kind of battle. Nirazaki: Youve been telling everyone how this is the end. Will Doragonboru really end after Majin Buu? Toriyama-san: Yes. Ive put so much time on Doragonboru I cant do much else. I never expected Doragonboru to be this long in the first place. I think its been concluded on a high note. After all, if I had my way, Id of ended the manga after the Freeza period! (Laughs) Nirazaki: You like to laugh about this a lot. Will parting with Doragonboru be difficult? Toriyama-san: On one side, Im relieved. On the other side, its like seeing a child move away. Nirazaki: I know that a lot of people want to hear more about fusion. With Bejitto now in the story, will he play that big of a role? And most of all, is he stronger than Gojīta himself? Toriyama-san: Well I dont know yet. Ive planned some things with Bejitto, but he wont be the focus of the entire saga. Youll see as things develop. As for their strength, Gojīta is a little bit stronger, but you wouldnt notice a difference. Still, Bejitto will always be the most skilled martial artist! (Smiles) Nirazaki: What does that last part mean? Toriyama-san: Youll find out. Nirazaki: Ill remember that! One last question. Toriyama-san: Make it good, you wont get a second chance! Kidding, Ill see you again. Nirazaki: Is this the end of Doragonboru forever? Toriyama-san: I dont want to shift the focus, so I have to keep certain things close to their roots. "The Fusion Dance is a short series of poses that are performed by two characters of equal power levels and roughly equal size. In the series, the result of a correctly performed Fusion Dance is a superior being whose power is multiplied severalfold over that of the individual fusees" "When one pair of Potara Earrings are worn by a single person they have no special properties. However, if two individuals each wear one earring on opposite ears, the true power of the artifacts is revealed. The earrings have the ability to fuse two people into a single entity, substantially enhancing the abilities of both individuals. The resulting fusion lasts forever, even if the fused being removes the earrings."
Basically I remember hearing that in another interview he talked about the exact differences between Potara and Fusion Dance. I can't remember what article it was (I'll look it up later) But basically Fusion Dance results in a more perfect fusion because of how in sync the fusees have to be. But Potara fusion results in a (in the article it was back during Z so no potara retcon) Permanent fusion making it more useful for combat.
Well yeah, for interest in the series Golden Frieza would be scaled up to meet Vegito Blue by Toei, and then the power scaling of the entire series would make even LESS sense, but that's coming from the "this is a show so whatever gets more views is what happens" perspective. That perspective is a lot less fun to work with in "What if" scenarios, though, so no one is going to work with that concept.
Not sure if you would actually call it a recton since nothing was truly explained when they defuse. When they split, Goku just made a guess and moved on without questioning it. Even it were the case, the risk factor of staying together forever is nulled by the Dragonballs. Heck in one of the video games on the PSP (Dragonball Z Shin Budokia), if you played Vegito,his ending he used the Dragonballs to defused. Now in the Super it's confirmed that they can defuse by using the Namekian Dragonalls. On top of the Super Dragonballs even.
burgerkingJ it's still a retcon because it was meant to be permanent and the explanation Goku gave was meant to be the official one. When they brought in the DBs people thought that was an explanation for how they could defuse in the future, if Vegito showed up, and when he did show up they threw in a retcon so Trunks could be the hero.
Yes it's supposed to be permanent, but you're just going to accept a guess from someone who doesn't have any knowledge of the Potara whatsoever? A guess that's from Goku of all people and not the Elder Kai? Remember, Toriyama doesn't plan things through, especially when he's on the spot when you have a fusion character who's really powerful that was supposedly be permanent. He mostly just wings it. Why else they didn't mention it ever again after they defused?
burgerkingJ If we're bringing up the video games, then in one of the Budokai games Elder Kai is the one who says that the fusion wore off because of some of the nasty stuff inside Buu's body.
TA Scouter actually they still could've used the fusion by using the Supreme Kai's earings but they refused when fighting Kid Buu. So there was a chance explain what happened before they when off and face Buu again.
You know what would have been sick actually? I think it would have been awesome if we got a full range of Vegito's powers. Like he starts off in base form and see how he does. Then super sayian, then super sayain 2, then 3. And here's where it get's interesting. Then there could have been something hinted at super sayain 4. What would happen is, as he is powering up stronger and stronger past 3, we start to see glimpses of the great ape denoting sayian heritage and transformation, but then all of a sudden he stops, realizing that he's expending too much power, goes back to base form, then does his god transformations as per normal. What do you guys think?
Vegito: technically has 2 wives
Also Vegito: *"ALLLL RIGHHHHHT"*
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What if Shin was good at his job?
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Lemon-kun Holy shit you havent updated YT yet
U7 wouldn't be in the ToP
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U/ would not be in trouble all the time
I think that Vegito would be too prideful to defuse. It's Vegeta that wanted to never fuse again, and Goku who wanted to fuse because he knew they needed to. Vegito, being his own new being, probably wouldn't want to disappear.
I like that answer, to add to it though: I feel like Vegito would never defuse because of a mix of Vegeta's Pride and Goku's sense of Duty. Vegito is the most powerful being ever shown in Dragon Ball, he is a perfect melding of mind, body, and spirit for the two most powerful Sayians that have ever been. I could see Vegito toying with the though of diffusion during the peace time between the end of the Buu Saga and the arrival of Beerus, but after finding out that there are other Universes and literal GODS of destruction that inhabit them, splitting would be out of the question due to the threats presented with Beerus' arrival.
Well Kibito-Kai defused and I think combined with Vegetas hatred for fusion Vegito would definitely defuse too
I agree with this, especially if we are talking about after the meeting with Beerus. That would be about 2 years after the events of Buu Saga, maybe more. That's a lot of time of Vegito being his own thing. Vegeta and Goku as separate persons might be just background noise.
Diamonddeath I don’t think this would happen, Vegito is a character who is cocky but only when he knows he can be. He was a character who knew exactly what to do and when to act serious. The only reason he acted cocky with Buu was because he wanted to piss buu off until he could be absorbed by him in person. But he knew exactly what to do when to do it, and he knew exactly when to be cocky and how to be cocky. He wouldn’t have been prideful about wanting to stay fused, he would most likely decide to defuse knowing it was the right thing to do for everyone. Meaning Vegito would not want to defuse, he would prefer to. And as mentioned in this video, Vegito doesn’t have goku and vegeta’s personality, he actually has his own personality.
This, only Bulma and Chi-Chi have other plans... and the Dragon Radar.
Chi chi: this blows!!
Bulma: yeah at first there was some novelty in bed but now it just feels wrong
Chi chi: if only there was a way to fix this
Bulma: where does he keep his spare earrings?
Bulchi is born!!!
What’s the video called gogeta f bulchi
@Namato 360 so it’s not
@Namato 360 I saw a video on Phub that’s called that
@Namato 360 yeah
@Namato 360 it’s a great video
Most people: "They're fused forever? How does their consciousness work? Do Goku's mind and Vegeta's mind still exist separately or have they been fused into one mixed bag of sentience? Does he ever have internal conflicts due to the vastly different personalities in the one body? Do these personalities make him somewhat bipolar or do they cancel each other out? Does Goku obtain all the knowledge and memories of Vegeta and vice versa or do they somehow remain separate?
Me: "WILL THEY FUCK CHI-CHI OR BULMA"
I'm pretty sure their minds fuse as well with how well they were able to move around and think properly, if they both had their minds in the same head they couldn't function as a person properly because of how differently they act and move as themselves. As for the personalities I think it's taking the best/dominate parts of both and putting them together, because they were both full blooded saiyans they are extremely over confident with their power but also had Gokus calm nature along with Vegetas experience as a warrior which complements both.
As for who they will fuck, it's obvious they will be constantly having three ways with how they fought over whose husband was better that one time.
Alecator Y NOT BOTH!!!
chichi and bulma will do the fusion dance
Shin feels bad about tearing apart two marriages and allows Bulma and Chi Chi to fuse to form one wife for Vegito. Enter Chilma!
This question was already answered in Dragon Ball Multiverse.
Vegito should no longer see himself as Goku and Vegeta, but as his own person.
I already do
@@izaiah6407 You're sad.
@@smartesttemmie no im not.......
@@izaiah6407 Roleplaying as an anime character in UA-cam comment sections is pretty cringe.
@@JoshuaA144 If I was going around using temmie speak on an actual public forum and expecting people to take me seriously, than as God is my witness, you would have every right to mock me relentlessly. But see, I don't do that, cause I'm not a loser.
9:53
Well, if Tory-kun chose to keep Vegito, he’d just lower the count of Sayians needed by 1
Or theyd call future trunks or something
@@heyheyyouyou6196 Yeah don't think you can just call someone from the future
No dbz kakarot shows you can have 2 people of the same from different times. Also I think they might have just summoned a super saiyan with whis and or shenron
Bruh vegeta got Super Saiyan god I dbs broly without the ritual we just don’t know how vegeta got it
@@farmerwiththeshotgun142 Yeah in dbz kakarot it says they used Future Trunks, Trunks, Goten, Goku and Gohan. Or after Battle of gods they did the same ritual with vegeta becoming god instead of goku.
Vegito is more like Vegeta. With the name, the cocky personality, the "toying with enemy," personality, and the usage of the name Kakarot rather than Goku.
Soulless Flame I think Gogeta is more like Goku in that he has a really laid back approach to fighting but knows when it’s time to get serious and to end it.
Now cannon Gogeta refers to goku as kakarot
But i do think Vegeta is the dominant personality in Vegito with his attacks and fighting style
But with the craftyness of Goku
Yeah, but vegito is pretty smart, or analytical because of vegeta
Vegito knows when to relax, though. Vegeta does not. That is definitely a Goku trait. Also, Goku does refer to himself as Kakarot when meeting Broly. Other notes: Goku is remarkably smart, but only in a fight.
Goku also plays around with his enemy
"What If Vegito Stayed Fused?" Easy: Threesome.
Insert devil artamis ahaha
*Y O S H A*
@Darwin Waterson Thank you Darwin, very cool
@Darwin Waterson 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My thoughts exactly.
If they stayed fused... you would a make a '''WHAT IF VEGITO DEFUSED''
Just A Guy With An Eyepatch Yeah... Obviously ... you stupid or what?
Chill out
JustAdo are you dumb? It was a joke.
Laserz indeed child.
Laserz shut your trap
I think of Vegito as an individual, a single person with his own mind. I imagine he wouldn't split since it's essentially suicide. Plus we all know how obsessed Saiyans are with being powerful, he'd def want to keep his ultimate form. I imagine at this point he wouldn't even think of himself as two people, he sees himself as "Vegito" and not a fusion.
PLEASE continue this after the tournament of power!
mr. CurtRichy watches MasakoX?
Why does this have so little likes/comments
Broly movie would pretty much stay the same execpt different fusion
Noob
Unless you're Kefla, then it lasts as long as needed for the plot.
No Goku was just so much more powerful to Kefla making her defuse with his Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
so powerful it hit 3 times
Kefla didn’t use as much energy as Vegito blue and nowhere near 1 hour had passed, Kefla makes sense whether you like to believe it or not.
wasnt the entire tournament of power arc an hour or 2 long?
i bet you defend GT too
Nobody has ever said super was well written
@@woodlefoof2 *Cough* Namek *cough*
Going to battle of gods arc, with Goku's Instant transmission and Vegeta's knowledge of his brothers energy signature couldn't he grab Tarble and use him for the ritual? just a thought.
Soggy Tamales he's dead I guess
CriminaL FSS might as well be.
CriminaL FSS No they explained this
Vegeta doesn't know in what area Tarble lives and time wasn't on their side to look for him
tarble doesnt exist in super. he was retconned
Sapphire Really? I thought they mentioned him in passing
DO A PART 2!!!!!!
lord zwarrior he said is gonna do it already smh
AA 2004 well we're still waiting
AA 2004 mr.hesgonnadoitalready :\
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed part 2
Unknown Z ok
Funny that, while SSG Vegito would be way weaker than Beerus in the anime (so, canonwise), but in the movie where SSG Goku's power was similar to 70% of Beerus's power, SSG Vegito would absolutely clap Beerus
That was retconned to 30 percent in the anime
@@polouriball9383 yeah I know
Polouri Ball Interesting, where does it say he used 30%? I've never seen that number before...
@@polouriball9383 So blue Goku is stronger than Beerus?
Because SSG=Base form of the SSB. So 30x50=1500
Well the movie was written by Toriyama so that's Canon to me
DB Multiverse actually explores this possibility really well, it's pretty awesome.
insert comment about mary sue Bra here
Lucas Miller thats what i said
Yes
Its not. I prefer Xenoverse where Chronoa almost give her earring to Bulma and Chichi. So Vegito doesnt need to face a conflict
@@sembarangjaknama it is. Are you actually joking? Xenoverse 2 is a mess. A trainwreck just boarding Super Heroes. The first one was cool on what it was doing, but come the second one with the mask BS and Super Mira and, c'mon, you can pretend that's "better".
I think we all know from Vegito's trademark, joyous "ALL RIGHT!" whenever he appears that he loves existing, which makes me think that Goku and Vegeta do both enjoy being one being (even if the latter acts like he hates it).
What if Goku had never met Chi-Chi?
woulda fucked bulma instead.
= No gohan = cell destroyed planet earth = end of story
Then he would have made a kid with someone else
that kid COULD be better then Gohan (with a fighting spirit)
if they would have a kid...
if he found someone else...
Who knows ..
Exodia The forbidden one also there wouldn't be a super saiyan trunks, PROBABLY would have died. And they would have all died
I don’t think Ultra Instinct would be realized as easily as it was in Super. Vegito wouldn’t fall to Jiren so easily like Goku did, so it’s anyone’s guess if Vegito in SSB Kaioken X20 would be able to knock him out or not.
Will 2139 it would've actually achieved ultra instict easily, he's not too tense nor relaxed, and he is the fusion of who got the UI (Goku) and Vegeta,it would pretty well
Probably just would've gotten it by training with Whis alone being Vegeta who sometimes attacks sheerly out of anger and impulse but also being quite relaxed from Goku
So Kefla happens and Vegito probs still having a lot of stamina likely uses only SSJ2 and crushes her
Jiren requires Ultra instinct but probably already mastered so Vegito wins
And then U6 is brought back the the super dragon balls
its a good idea. Either, Vegito is such a great martial artist that he is able to achieve UI EASIER than Goku did, or he is so strong that as you said, he's able to take out Jiren with SSB Kaioken x 20 -- or even SSB Evolution.
I think ssb kaioken x20 vegito would probably be as strong against jiren as ui sign goku was against Jiren
In my humble opinion, normal Blue Vegito would be more than enough. Kaioken x20 just sounds like an overkill.
After 4+ years I'd wonder if Vegito would want to defuse. At that point he'd have grown into an individual, and with the power lust from both Goku and Vegeta's original personalities he might stay fused on the basis of his sheer strength alone. There might be pressure from others to defuse but neither Goku nor Vegeta give into pressure easily so I'm not sure even that would have an effect. Also seeing the interactions between Future Trunks and Vegito would be a fun twist.
Joe 100% agree. Your comment should get more upvotes.
I don't think Vegetto would defuse. I think Bulma talks to Whis how to undo the fusion.Whis says he has an answer but it comes with a price - a deliciouse one. After he and Beerus ate a whole dinnertable full of food, they tell her that they could use the Dragonballs to separate them. Bulma talks with ChiChi about it and they decide to wish them apart. Shenron is summoned and they say:" We wish that the fusion that make our husbands into one man to be over". The mighty dragon replys:" The wish cannot be granted. Both Goku an Vegeta don't want to be split. Do you have another wish?". Then Mr.Satan rushes to the place and demands that Good Buu should be revived. His wish is granted and both Bulma and ChiChi are upset with the results.
They could wish to fuse as well so they don't have to keep sharing the same husband.
But if that were the case, then it wouldn't even matter. One of them, presumably chichi, has more mental strength. Meaning that Bulma would be forced into becoming a backseat driver, and the entire thing would've just been pointless.
More mental strength? Uh... you are aware Bulma is a genius right?
Ya and? Vegeta is a genius compared to Goku and yet most of the time it's Goku's personality that shines through most, Will and Smarts are not the same thing. Bulma is constantly scared and having others do most of the work for her which I wouldn't really consider as 'Strong Willed', Chi-chi on the other hand is a fighter and went for what she wanted herself with out any fear.
I would think they would be a great combination, not really getting all that much stronger but it's still a perfect match up of brains and brawn. Not like that matters though seeing as they would just be there to invent things and pump out babies like Toriyama intended all women to do in DBZ.
Riko Wolfin no vegito is more of vegeta and gogeta is more of goku
I personally think that Vegito would stay fused - after living so long in their fused state he would have grown used to it and most likely wouldn't see himself as a fusion of 2 people anymore. If the option to defuse was ever offered he would most likely refuse, because if he did then he would no longer exist.
Dude there is so much more you can do with. Like when vegito and Beerus fight, vegito pushed Beerus to a limit where he uses hakai, whis notices this and takes them to a proper arena to fight to prevent destruction. They fight equally. This forces vegito and Beerus to train together under whis. Further on vegito unlock vegito blue and Beerus ULTRA INSTINCT because he was finally being pushed to his limits despite being a God.
trueee
Kevin Pham i wish i was earlier xD
karan bhandari Beerus would win against vegito.
Except Beerus would absolutely stomp Vegeto at that point in the story. It wouldn’t even be close.
Ok but that wouldnt make sense because Vegetto still wouldnt bw able to do anything
but wait, if zamasu took goku's body in the future does that mean he now takes vegito's body instead and we would get vegito black and super saiyan rosé vegito. also can a fused character fuse with somebody else like zamasu?, I demand a part 2 for this one
saiyan solar bruuuuuuuuh super vegito rosé would be freaking ridiculous, there is no way Trunks would have lasted one fight against a Vegito Black
he took goku's body before goku knew anything about super saiyan god. you can see he's in the field working, and that was at the very beginning of dragon ball super
goku before god time
Doughriddos Goku Black still achieved Rosé even though he took Goku's body before Goku knew of god ki. I don't see why the same couldn't happen Vegito in this scenario
saiyan solar ...holy shit. Yes.
What if Roshi trained for the saiyan attack?
Robert Blankenbiller RIP - look at his level of strength now
Do you think if he trained with the others for a year that he could beat at least nappa?
I still think it was retarded shooing him into the team, would have been better off getting Future trunks somehow.
But time travel's illegal though. If word got out that U7 used time travel just to get a win, that could risk erasure on the spot.
Ant Man i'd have prefered trunks over frieza.
Chi-Chi and Burma will also fuse if that happens :3
Burma?
MrEquinox nice
Maby bitchi
I can only get so erect.
One bae, with all the doting of Chchi and the nagging of Bulma. The ultimate waif-form.
what if Goku/Kakarot crash landed in West City instead of Mount Paozu and is raised by the Briefs
When this actually happened
i think the fans would have been fin with vegito being the main character
Indeed. Vegeta character depth would make Vegito just like a super amazing upgrade of Goku. Also 3somes with Goku ending up with bulma afterall lolz.
Matt Watson all gogeta fans would be pissed
And they would die by the time Merged Zamasu happens. Because it's Vegito Black now.
i would be fine with it
I don't think Vegito black would exist because I don't think Vegito would be as stupid as Goku in Super. Black would be some other character.
I think it doesn't matter whether they stay fused or not.
With the time spent together brought them closer together and more in sync, making a un-fused duo much stronger.
Or the fused duo would simply be powerful enough to deal with most threats on his own (with Vegeta taking out most of Goku's big flaws).
Cant wait for Vegeto blue kai-o-ken.
Honestly there would be no need for ssb kaioken... At least until tournament of power
No Ultra Instinct SSB+ Vegito
If that happened Rip Jiren
SirJMO he's gone
SirJMO he can't refuse... Ever again because he already reached a godly power and if he goes kaioken his fusion will be gone before it even started and that's why I think Gogeta would win in powers
Also, would Frieza destroy the Earth before Vegito kills him? If so, what would happen if Whis decides to rewind time? I could imagine Beerus intervening even though he said that he wouldn't, only to say to Frieza that the Earth had too much delicious food to let it be destroyed, but I'm not sure. Thoughts?
kefla vs UI vegito
ui vegito plays with kefla
kefla get angry
vegito gets board so he powers up
vegitos ki destroyed the rocks
vegitos now going to kick kefla out
vegito is confused becasue kefla can't be found
Grand Priest: universe 6 kefla dropped out
Ssj2 kefla wouldn't push vegito to UI. Vegito could just go super saiyan god or blue and effortlessly eliminate kefla.
@@theriverswarning he won't even need to be base, in base was a form. 😂
Christ, what's with all the Kefla hate? She's great.
@@smartesttemmie she went from no forms to ssj2 in less than an hourr from just a tingly feeling in her back, making all the loss and rage the saiyans took just to get to ssj seem useless
@@3juliano680Now, if some new Saiyan dude had done that instead, none of y'all would complain. That's loss and rage that don't apply to her, it's a different Damn universe!
Masako: Gohan is a little weirded out by all this, but ultimately he understands what his fartherhad to do.
Me: Haha, ultimate, like ultimate Gohan.
I love how Masako always uses the real Japanese spelling at first in his videos (Freeza, Vegetto) but then is like "oh shit I forgot about the American audience" and changes it to "Frieza" or "Vegito" 😂
If Vegeto is one person, they can ask future Trunks to be the 6th person.
Sans Goku true
The only problem is that non of the Z Warriors have a time machine to go to the future to recruit Future Trunks.
I'm sure Beerus would allow Bulma to do it. Heck, they could go back to the erased timeline, into its past, and fetch its Vegito.
Gogeta vegito wouldn’t want to leave his sons world to just get Annihilated
Or they could summon vegetas brother (who is cannon) which could be easier
"You can say retcon all you like"
Yaaaay
RETCON RETCON RETCON
What if what if week was what if Wednesday?
Akuro Adennyciia such a tounge twister
i had to read that 3 times lol
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Akuro Adennyciia OMG VEGETA X GOKUS POTENCIAL IS INFINITE
If Vegito stayed fused until the Tournament of Power
We have the 10th slot for Yamcha ^^
Nawh let's revive cell😂
Both of you are wrong
It would be for Yajerobi. 😁👌👌
*Wasn't it Old Kai who told Goku about the Potara Fusion, NOT Shin!*
So he should have known about the time limit.
We have no idea how far into his training he was when he was sealed into the Z-Sword. Or, he's just senile.
@@DiZtheJedi senile as he also implies that he has seen mortals permanently fused
Still find it interesting that the whole pudding cup thing could've been avoided if they hadn't wished back fat buu in this version of the story
2 Saiyans 1 Body
Charlez Daniel 2 wife's one husband
(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ashraf Taher 3 ways perfect life
Broly: Kakarot and prince Vegeta? With EARINGS?!?
Goku: Let's do it vegeta
Vegeta: DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO
*goku and vegeta fuse*
Vegito: Broly run
Broly: GO TO HELL KAKAROOOOOOOOOOOOT
One mind
One problem with your analysis about the Potara knowledge to the Kais, Masako; it wasn't Shin who failed to realize there was a time limit, but the Elder Kai. Now, it could be said that he simply (conveniently) forgot, as he is rather aloof, or that he came from an age where perhaps no mortal had ever tried using it before and the knowledge of it being temporary with mortal mixes was simply discovered later on down the line, but that's about it.
It'd be like DBZ Multiverse
9:07 I think Vegito would have been "terrified but amazed at the same time" like "I know who he was but i don't know who he is now. I think i will have the guard up just in case"
I'd say they'd stay fused. Vegeta who was scared of Beerus would be pretty psyched that his current form could match him and I don't think Goku would want to handicap himself just as he gets the opportunity to fight stronger guys. Though you did gloss over something pretty important. Bulma and Chi Chi.... their reactions to this would be interesting... Maybe Chi Chi likes this form better than Goku, maybe she gets pregnant again. Maybe even Bulma does too leading to a bitter rivalry of Vegettos' wives.
Just that topic alone could make an entire video. What would a child of Vegetto be like?
Tech Jadus DB multiverse Bra. She's the daughter of Vegito and Bulma.
Vanitas And she's abnormally strong.
ValhallaTreatment And a dickhead, but I mind that less than most people.
Tech Jadus No, Vegeta has too much pride for that. He would want to be able to beat Berus alone and without Goku's help
With Bulma and Chichi I think it would be similar to Dragon ball multiverse, where Chichi let Bulma have Vegeto because Goku was already dead and Bulma still had Vegeta around, and she wouldn't want to take him away from Trunks and Bulma.
You know, at the Beerus part where Vegito is fighting as SSG, it would have been good if he killed Beerus and became the God of Destruction and therefore giving other fighters a chance to shine
David Guthrie well SSG I don't think would've been able to beat Beerus but would've made Beerus use a lot of his power. At SSB vegito is probably stronger and Whis is just working to get
Ultra Instinct Vegito rather than a new god of destruction as He never trained Goku or Vegeta to use energy of destruction. Whis is like Beerus I'm not gonna train someone to beat you, I'm gonna train them to beat me.
I think they would stay fused, they're both selfish bastards when it comes to having more power/strength to fight more even stronger opponents.
In the words of the Tenth Doctor "I don't want to go"
Well, the keyword there was 'selfish', as in, by themselves. Both Vegeta and, to a less vocal extent, Goku hate having to rely on another's powers, almost to the point of risking assured destruction. Goku just so happened to be altruistic enough in the past to understand when he needs to do what's necessary and, with enough poking and prodding, even Vegeta knows when to swallow at least a little of his pride and take one for the team. And this is all before Toei really started playing up Goku's base saiyan/selfish nature. We saw how hard it was to get Vegeta to agree to the fusion when it was just him being stubborn. Now Goku is only about a step above him in heroism, even he's in the "I'm only doing this because I really, really have to" boat.
So now we got two of the most strong willed personalities in universe 7 stuck in a situation neither one really wants to be in; I mean: Vegeta having to share a body with Kakorot, both consciousness are fully aware that there power was only manifested because of the fusion and not as a result of dedication and training, and not to mention, Vegito would have no real rivals. Yeah there's Whis and Beerus as benchmarkers, but trying to call either one a rival is like a novice martial artist calling Jet Li their rival.
Yeah, they may make the best of it and rationalize it so that it doesn't feel so hopeless, but if given a way out, you can bet they're gonna take it with little to no hesitation, especially if they know they could just do it again if the need arises.
Call it selfish if you will but I don't imagine that Vegito would defuse because, potara fusion would have the two of them talking in his mind, (even if that is how TFS will probably do fusion) it combines them and leaves an entirely new entity if the personalities are equal in strength, which Goku's and Vegeta's would be, making Vegito his own person. Meaning that if he defused that would equal nonexistence for him, which is a terrifying thought for anyone.
*Wouldn't
Except Vegeta would absolutely love the news that he doesn't need to stay fused to Goku and can be himself again.
masako every time i watch your videos you remind me how much i love dbz
What if vegeta was Earth's hero instead of mister Satan
that would be awesome and horrifying.
prince awesome bye bye earth
prince awesome uhh FUSION RING EX GO!
he'd have the humans bow before their (all mighty/all powerful) savior
About the ssg you forgot about tarble they could have instant typed to tarble and he could have been in that ssg ritual.
Ian Sackin tarble is pure of heart?
DS MidNight yeah I think your thinking of turles
xvaderxkiller nope, tarble
Honestly, it's kinda unclear whether or not Tarble is canon to DBS. Unlike in the Battle of Gods movie, he wasn't mentioned when they did the ritual in the show. Either Tarble doesn't exist, or he does exist, but the special he appeared in is non-canon
xvaderxkiller no turles is gokus dead non cannon brother. tarble is vegetas brother
please make a part two pls
This was very well thought through. I like this theoretical story more than the original. I’ll be a new subscriber for sure
Hey Masako, I think think your thought on Vegito counting as two actually has a bit of truth to it
The thing is, Videl was able to join in because she was pregnant with a Saiyan baby (Pan), so she was able to count as the one
With this thought in mind, it would be plausible to say it's determined by number more than it is person
With Vegito being the combination of two people, the count would be in the acceptable amount to still pull it off
So...... yeah, your 'narrative convenience' has solid back up to it
What if Krillin was as powerful as the grand priest since the very begining of dragon ball
Edit: Maybe just after the first training with Roshi
I would of came in my pants if that were to be real.
Krillin is best character
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dam
wat we do
Lol, he would one-shot everyone, including Jiren.... with ONE FINGER.
Krillin is technically the strongest human aside from uub
Dominic E-F Is Uub really human though? I always considered him more of a mystical being rather than human given that he's the reincarnation of Kid Buu.
Hey Johnny, you sure this is DKC Part 3? Lol
Hey Masako we should make a part two once the tournament of power gets wrapped up
What about the universe 6 tournament. Who would be the other fighter
i believe gohan would step up like he did with the universe survival ark
Andrew Carmichael gohan
Adrenalix I think It would be either Krillin, 16, or theinshan. Gohan had that meeting remember
Buu actually gets in and not sleeps.
I think that, just for the joke, it'd be Yajirobe. Nobody wanted to come, so only him was left.
"Don't worry Beerus-Sama, despite his looks he's pretty strong, maybe even more than Monaka."
What if Gohan became the super Saiyan God
Jay Saiyan he would of lost because of major and I mean major inexperience proven when he fought krillen
Jay Saiyan it would make ultimate saiyan god since gohan doesn't go super saiyan anymore
Well yeah guys but, Gohan at the time was stronger than Goku. God Gohan may even be stronger than Goku! :Dp
Kuririn San Piccolo is a yoshi. Everyone knows that.
Jack Loveridge ...except he does. He has gone super saiyan more than a few times after he got mystic.
They would absolutely defuse, but keep the option open for refusing
It wasn't a retcon it was just explaining and answering a question that they left unanswered
How would bulla be born? That would be weird if vegito does it with bulma
Oh... mah... gawd...
I mean, I wouldn't mind it being a thing.
I feel like Bulma would be okay with the fusion but Chi Chi would be really upset that Goku is "gone" so she would probably not fuck with Vegito.
Cyrork I don't think so
She'd be Son Bulla and everyone would constantly call her a "Mary Sue" (Points if you get the reference.)
I get the reference, and I think she's an entertaining character. I don't really care about the Mary Sue argument in the fanbase.
If Vegito went super saiyan God, he would CLAP Beerus like he's nothing. Anyone else agrees?
maybe not completely destroy him but vegito would win for sure
When doing the Super Sayian God ritual, does a fusion count as one or two sayians?
DUUUUUNNNNNN
(I think one person)
Yes, but he's the product of two people-
Thus technically giving him two souls, and being the equivalent of two Saiyans.
I personally would believe two.
It's two. He's 2 being inside 1 body.
I love these What Ifs and I have one to add: What if Goku's pod had landed on Namek? What if he had never shown up on Earth and been raised by the Namekians? That would VASTLY alter the entire series and I'd love to see how you handle it.
Ahh. The lost part 3 of somecallmejohnny's DKC stream
Here's the problem. Would they have achieved SSJ Blue without their rivalry? In Super, Vegeta went first in order to catch up to Goku who, at minimum maintained a power boost from the God form. Goku follows, because it's a cool idea. Fused, Vegetto already has that boost and no incentive to train with Whis.
Vegeta attempting to surpass Goku is what's driven them for so long. They still have their Saiyan drive, but without a rival to surpass, I don't think they'd train as hard.
vegito would be alot closer to beerus strength so that may be a goal and while they wouldent train as hard they would still go with whiss for the sheer purpose of getting stronger and this fusion is two saiyans so its double the drive to get stronger
Carl Rood Beerus is stronger and so is whiss. That's Vegettos motivation. In this version it won't be whiss training goku and vegeta but instead whiss training Beerus and vegetto.
Beerus tells Vegito that making a wish with the Dragon Balls should defuse him back into the two Saiyans that created him.
Shenron is summoned and Vegito wishes to be defused but there is a problem and Shenron says "The power of Goku and Vegeta has merged so perfectly that now Vegito himself is now his own individual being and asking to defuse him would be asking to erase him from all existence along with the two Saiyans that reside within him. I may possess the power to bring the dead back to life but bring a being back into existence is beyond even the power of any Dragon in this Universe. I'm sorry." Shenron is sent away and Vegito is left depressed for a time. But after awhile he accepts this fact of his existence and finds Whis with Bulma walking around Capsule Corp and asks Whis to train him to get stronger. And from there the series proceeds as it has just without Goku and Vegeta.
Wil Pearson I am pretty sure the super dragon balls could. It was said they could grant any wish.
Jhon Janks well in Dragon Ball everyone said that the Dragon Balls could grant any wish but we found out that wasn't true.
Wil Pearson then how would they have turned ssjg if they were one being
Zavier Jensen well maybe because vegito may just be one perfect being, but he still has the power of 2 saiyans. This could be why ssg worked
Lynguistics wait so does this mean super Dragonball can't bring back the universes erases from existence from the tournament of power?
What if I told you... that I don't like fusion.
Why doesn’t anyone just give bulma and chi-chi the earrings
10:35 actually Beerus was lying and was never using 70% he was holding back alot, like a way lot when fighting ssj God Goku.
Three things to consider.. One, why don't Bulma and Chi-Chi fuse so they can both have Vegito? (Plus Goten and Trunks could too!) Two, what about the Universe 6 Arc there would be small changes there. And finally, the Goku Black Arc! For one it WOULDN'T be Goku Black but Vegito Black! And that's not even including Universe Survival!
Bulma and Chichi would never fuse. ESPECIALLY Bulma.
Bulma fusing with chichi would be downgrading herself
Lucas the Prince of Darkness multiverse theory my friend. It would still be Goku Black.
Well how about everyone fuses. Buu fuses with mr.satan. gohan fuses with videl. And beerus with champa.
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Grim Lock Chichi is loyal and can cook fym
7:17 I get the feeling They, alongside wishing good buu back, would have tried to wish the fusion to be undone. Still everyone would have been stuck with Vegito for a whole peaceful year. So shenanigans are likely to ensue
resurrection f if vegito was fused
vegito: hey freeza you got something right there!
freeza: what are you talking...
vegito: it was my spirit sword
Vegeto SSG couldn't happen in this instance. but they could possibly make gohan or one of the kids a SSG. I don't think you could have a half-SSG in Vegeto. HOWEVER Vegito is insanely strong on his own, so maybe he entertains Beerus enough to avoid destruction and have Whis train him. Then they could finally unlock god form and surpass Beerus and possibly Whis.
why would it work for gohan or one of the kids, but not vegeto?
because you need 5 saiyans dumping their spirit into 1 saiyan. 4 saiyans dumping their spirit into 2 saiyans fused wouldn't work. remember in BoG they failed the first time because they only had 5 saiyans total?
Just grab Vegeta's brother Tarble in place of Vegeta in this timeline. By actually keeping in contact with him this time around. Therefore still able to perfrom the ritual.
Edgardo J. Cruz yeah maybe but DBS has gone to great lengths to de-cannonized Tarble by saying that Goku and Vegeta are the only full saiyans still alive and being very careful not to mention Tarble ever existing. Cabba is the new Tarble.
Really? I thought Tarble was briefly mentioned after they found out they needed another Saiyan to complete the ritual. IIRC Krillin said something like "Vegeta, what about your brother?" and Vegeta said that he had no idea where Tarble was or how to contact him.
would've used the dragon balls to unfused them
Well this explains why Zamasu didn't merge correctly with Goku Black, since Goku Black was technically mortal, the Patora Fusion wasn't stable so Zamasu ended up looking like a freak
Vegito would go to Bulma.Gogeta would go to Chi chi if gogeta was permanent
Goku Black Or Bulma and Chi Chi fuse with the earrings.
Oh, I think they'd take Vegito's earrings and use them to fuse into Bulchi.
Everyone wins!
@@Maximus4587 what about chima?
I need part 2 of this until or beyond the current storyline, where Vegito decided to stay fused. He would demolish at ToP. Or make it 3parter with part 2 having Vegito and part 3 continues from here without Vegito but Goku and Vegeta being 2 separate people again.
While goku wouldnt mind staying fused im sure that vegita would want to defuse as soon as possible..
I feel that the fusion would stick as they feel that there may be more people as powerful as Beerus, and with fear for what could happen if those kinds of people came to earth
if I can add the two cents joke. if Vegetto stayed fused, to whom would he be married? goku's wife? vegeta's wife? bigamy anybody? would trunks and goten become brothers?
there's also another important matter. as seen in DBZ (when goku was given the potara) even if you remove them you stay fused and somebody else can use them. so, what would happen if vegetto potara fused with mystic gohan? how powerful would they become?
but the killer question is... what if goten and trunks used the regular fusion and then while fused used the potara to fuse with gohan? what would happen once the regular fusion between goten and trunks ends? what if the potara fusion between gotenks and mystic gohan potara fused with vegetto? would anybody dream of defeating such an absurdly powerful warrior? what if he became a ssj blue or, even worse, attained ultra instinct? oh my god. a fusion between goku, vegeta, gohan, goten and trunks using ultra instinct. would there be any god able to defeat him/them/it/whatever?
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vegetto fused with mystic gohan would create gohan blanco
I say he stays fused. He would have probably gotten so used to it after so long.
9:51 and why not revive Nappa or Raditz or any other sayain, get them to help, and then let them live as long as they don’t cause trouble?
You must not know saiyans very well
piculra it would've been funny if vegito asked shenron to revive his father.
Then bardock AND king vegeta ends up getting revied.
They don't have the enough training to even go ssj so hardly they can do something in the top
I thought that fusion retcon made a lot of sense, like The Kais didn't know because no one ever experienced it before, never needed mortals to fuse before.
MasakoX you just triggered alot of fans of the Fusion Dance when you said it was nothing LOL also I like Gogeta so I vote him
There's an interview with the creators of Gogeta who say that Gogeta is stronger but due to the shorter time limit for Fusion Dance he would lose to Vegito in a prolonged battle.
That's false. There is no interview like that. Vegito has a higher multiplier along with rival boost.
Super Otaku Magazine Issue #297
Toriyama-san has agreed to answer some questions for us today. Much thanks to Toriyama-san after the craze on the Majin Buu period. (Do note that this was not a cover story, and thus, short).
Nirazaki: Many fans have given positive feedback over the Majin Buu period. The inclusion of fusion was an unexpected twist. What gave you the idea?
Toriyama-san: Well in order to have a villain with so much strength, you need someone around that can rival him. Majin Buu is incredibly strong. Its not easy to create a character that can keep up. So I thought of making the characters fuse to create new characters without taking the focus off the main characters.
Nirazaki: There have been many changes since the Saiya-jins came to earth. Do you ever think about the progress?
Toriyama-san: Yes I do. Doragonboru has come a long way. They went from running at super speed to moving at the speed of light! (Laughs)
Nirazaki: There was uproar over the rematch between Son Goku and Bejita. Were you planning this the entire time?
Toriyama-san: (Laughs) It was more of a crowd pleaser. Son Gokuu and Bejita didnt have the opportunity to fight in the Seru period, and with a new saga to start with, it would not be hard to work in that kind of battle.
Nirazaki: Youve been telling everyone how this is the end. Will Doragonboru really end after Majin Buu?
Toriyama-san: Yes. Ive put so much time on Doragonboru I cant do much else. I never expected Doragonboru to be this long in the first place. I think its been concluded on a high note. After all, if I had my way, Id of ended the manga after the Freeza period! (Laughs)
Nirazaki: You like to laugh about this a lot. Will parting with Doragonboru be difficult?
Toriyama-san: On one side, Im relieved. On the other side, its like seeing a child move away.
Nirazaki: I know that a lot of people want to hear more about fusion. With Bejitto now in the story, will he play that big of a role? And most of all, is he stronger than Gojīta himself?
Toriyama-san: Well I dont know yet. Ive planned some things with Bejitto, but he wont be the focus of the entire saga. Youll see as things develop. As for their strength, Gojīta is a little bit stronger, but you wouldnt notice a difference. Still, Bejitto will always be the most skilled martial artist! (Smiles)
Nirazaki: What does that last part mean?
Toriyama-san: Youll find out.
Nirazaki: Ill remember that! One last question.
Toriyama-san: Make it good, you wont get a second chance! Kidding, Ill see you again.
Nirazaki: Is this the end of Doragonboru forever?
Toriyama-san: I dont want to shift the focus, so I have to keep certain things close to their roots.
"The Fusion Dance is a short series of poses that are performed by two characters of equal power levels and roughly equal size. In the series, the result of a correctly performed Fusion Dance is a superior being whose power is multiplied severalfold over that of the individual fusees"
"When one pair of Potara Earrings are worn by a single person they have no special properties. However, if two individuals each wear one earring on opposite ears, the true power of the artifacts is revealed. The earrings have the ability to fuse two people into a single entity, substantially enhancing the abilities of both individuals. The resulting fusion lasts forever, even if the fused being removes the earrings."
Basically I remember hearing that in another interview he talked about the exact differences between Potara and Fusion Dance. I can't remember what article it was (I'll look it up later) But basically Fusion Dance results in a more perfect fusion because of how in sync the fusees have to be. But Potara fusion results in a (in the article it was back during Z so no potara retcon) Permanent fusion making it more useful for combat.
That interview is fake.
No, I think if they stayed fused , they would golden Frieza as strong if now stronger than ssjb vegito ( that's torima and toei ) not me
Whhhat
Well yeah, for interest in the series Golden Frieza would be scaled up to meet Vegito Blue by Toei, and then the power scaling of the entire series would make even LESS sense, but that's coming from the "this is a show so whatever gets more views is what happens" perspective. That perspective is a lot less fun to work with in "What if" scenarios, though, so no one is going to work with that concept.
Would Vegito be able to pull a SGG Beyond Blue Kaioken x 20 in the tournament of power?
Masako! Time for a part 2 of this? :D
Imagine Super Saiyan Blue Evolved, Kaioken times 20 vegito...
The real question is who are the 3 fighters that are stronger than the grand priest?
Yamcha, Mr Satan, and the farmer with a shotgun
@Exotic-Khoshy he said fighters and I don't think he fights :p
Not sure if you would actually call it a recton since nothing was truly explained when they defuse. When they split, Goku just made a guess and moved on without questioning it. Even it were the case, the risk factor of staying together forever is nulled by the Dragonballs. Heck in one of the video games on the PSP (Dragonball Z Shin Budokia), if you played Vegito,his ending he used the Dragonballs to defused. Now in the Super it's confirmed that they can defuse by using the Namekian Dragonalls. On top of the Super Dragonballs even.
burgerkingJ it's still a retcon because it was meant to be permanent and the explanation Goku gave was meant to be the official one. When they brought in the DBs people thought that was an explanation for how they could defuse in the future, if Vegito showed up, and when he did show up they threw in a retcon so Trunks could be the hero.
Yes it's supposed to be permanent, but you're just going to accept a guess from someone who doesn't have any knowledge of the Potara whatsoever? A guess that's from Goku of all people and not the Elder Kai? Remember, Toriyama doesn't plan things through, especially when he's on the spot when you have a fusion character who's really powerful that was supposedly be permanent. He mostly just wings it. Why else they didn't mention it ever again after they defused?
burgerkingJ If we're bringing up the video games, then in one of the Budokai games Elder Kai is the one who says that the fusion wore off because of some of the nasty stuff inside Buu's body.
burgerkingJ there was no reason for them to use Potara fusion after and they didn't really care how they defused because they still had to stop Buu.
TA Scouter actually they still could've used the fusion by using the Supreme Kai's earings but they refused when fighting Kid Buu. So there was a chance explain what happened before they when off and face Buu again.
I would enjoy seeing you continue to talk through to the tournament of power
Ok why the hell is this in somecallmejohnnys donkey Kong 101% twitch live stream playlist?
Scott Radcliffe lmao I thought it was a glitch at first!
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Your welcome.
Well there would be no Bulla
Butter Wolfie They both get pregnate o_o
That awkward moment when you have to tell someone that you got 4 parents.
If Vegito and Buli had a baby, is that baby a fusion too?
You know what would have been sick actually? I think it would have been awesome if we got a full range of Vegito's powers. Like he starts off in base form and see how he does. Then super sayian, then super sayain 2, then 3. And here's where it get's interesting. Then there could have been something hinted at super sayain 4. What would happen is, as he is powering up stronger and stronger past 3, we start to see glimpses of the great ape denoting sayian heritage and transformation, but then all of a sudden he stops, realizing that he's expending too much power, goes back to base form, then does his god transformations as per normal. What do you guys think?
Could you continue tho idea in the future with new arcs such as the tournament of power and Baby? This is so amazing!
Vegetto should become main character
If they stayed fused dragon ball becomes ine punch man, and vegito is always depressed he doesn't get any good fights any more.
What if Gine went with Goku to Earth and raised him there? Sorry, if it feels like I'm spamming this.
Multiverse did this, lol. And that's how in MV, we have OP Pan.