"I just stopped reading drafts", Elizabeth Olsen reveals about DOCTOR STRANGE: MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Elizabeth Olsen pulls the curtain back on the unusual creative process of making a Marvel movie. #happysadconfused #joshhorowitz #doctorstrangeinthemultiverseofmadness
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What do you make of Elizabeth's comments about the making of MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS? Make sure to watch my full chat with Lizzie here! ua-cam.com/video/YhDmHzPw5lw/v-deo.html
I like how she sings "They made a costume!"
This was the first time i have heard anyone involved with these movies talk about them in a way that didnt sound like they were wearing an earpiece with five lawyers and seven execs and twenty PR people on the other end dictating their answers.
So awesome to hear a marvel actor actually talk about their job rather then reflecting the question, she seems so cool
It's deflecting the question. And yet, here we have all the like minded dummies thumbing up. We live in a very stupid world my friend..
@@robovac3557 d and r are close on a keyboard, typos happen, calm down.
@@travellerinthedark And a mealey mouthed excuse to boot. Deary me.
@@robovac3557 Your punctuation is rather lacking for a stickler. Rules for thee, but not for me?
@@travellerinthedark It's a whole wrong word. Nobody talking about spelling or the like.
Lizzie just says it like it is, love her!
Josh, I love how you led her up to being able to talk about the massive inconsistencies in the film, but didn't force it. I feel like her saying she "always tries to find something new" is a polite way to acknowledge that the MoM writers completely backtracked on the journey she'd literally JUST gone on in WandaVision. Oh, she's once again a grief-obsessed, power-mad villain? How original. Both her and Cumberbatch deserved better. They deserved Derrickson's sequel.
you really cant blame the MoM writers or directors for fucking up what they setup in wandavision. i'd blame marvel solely for this one, she literally went from shooting wanda to MoM, the mom writers wanted to explore an angle they thought would be interesting, which they had every right to do especially if the studio gave them greenlight to do so. they didnt have any idea if wandavision was gonna be complete dumpsterfire cashgrab disney plus show or if it was gonna be great. But because it turned out great now fans think mom deliberately fucked things up cause they saw wandavision first and it became a hit so they think thats the order of how the writers came into it too.
@@afrosymphony8207 Nah, its not hard to fix. I did it. Read below.
The movie begins the same, until:
The WandaVision Theme Song plays!
We watch Wanda and her children spending a lovely day together.
Suddenly, the lights get darker. The front door starts rattling, the windows start breaking. Wanda tells her children to get behind her. In front of them, a crack in space splinters open before them and widens, being forced open by thousands of hellish black hands, and black smoke begins to pour into the room, the smoke also seeming to form thousands of hands. The smoke shoves Wanda backwards and grabs the two boys, pulling them into the rift by their legs. We zoom in between the terrified faces of the boys and into the rift, their screams echoing in our ears, as…
Wanda wakes up in her bed after another nightmare. In contrast to Strange waking and sitting bolt upright, Wanda wakes with a resigned, slow breath. This has been happening for a long, long time.
She walks her orchard collecting sprigs as Stephen Strange approaches.
Strange: "Hello Wanda."
Wanda: "Stephen. I was wondering when I'd be getting a visit from you. I made mistakes. I'm trying to set things right."
Strange: "Wanda, I'm not here to talk about Westview. There is a girl here who has been chased through the multiverse by creatures under the influence of runes. She's currently under protection in Khamer Taj."
Wanda: "America is Here? In this Universe?"
Strange: "...You know about her?"
Wanda: "Stephen…every night since Westview, I have had the same dream. My Children. Being Taken from me. Screaming For their Mother to save them. And being Powerless to stop it.When I learned that these were not just dreams, but echoes through the multiverse, I knew I had to find the power to save them. And America is the key. The Darkhold has showed me…."
Strange (visible fear): "Wait…Wanda…You have been studying the Darkhold?"
Wanda: "...I have been safeguarding it, and learning to control my powers through it…."
Strange: "Wanda, The Darkhold will only show you what it wants you to see. It is an evil thing, that corrupts all that read it."
Wanda: "I need guidance, Stephen. The last witch I encountered, I had to leave imprisoned in Westview. And you are coming to Me for insight into the realm of Witchcraft. Who better to learn its secrets, to be able to control its powers?"
Strange: "...And through powers in the Darkhold, you reached out into the multiverse and willed America Chavez to you. And what that did was brainwash the next closest creature to kidnap her! I just got done saving her from a tentacle monster rampaging down 5th Avenue destroying everything in its path trying to get to her!"
Wanda (Genuine Horror): "What? No, that can't be…I never intended for anyone to get hurt, I just wanted to talk with her."
Strange: "Wanda, This is the Darkhold! This is what it does!"
Wanda (Pleading, so close she can taste it, genuinely sorry): "Stephen, I know, I am not perfect. That was a mistake, and I am sorry. But Now America is Here! We can talk to her together! We can study her power Together!"
Strange: "Wanda, Did you start hearing the screams of your children Before or After you started reading the Darkhold?"
Wanda (Taken aback, then…caught. Rationalizing): "I…I don't remember. Now I feel like I've always heard them."
Strange (Doesn't believe it for a second): "I need to protect America Chavez. Right now the greatest threat to her looks like…You. If you want to talk, Don't bring the Darkhold."
Wanda: "Wait, Stephen!"
(Stephen Teleports back to Khamer Taj)
The Khamer Taj Seqence plays out similar to how it did before, but Wanda is Controlling people, magically binding them so they can't move or cast/fight. Wanda genuinely doesn't want to hurt anyone, she just wants to get to America.
The rest of the movie plays as it did, until Strange and America are trapped in the Glass Prisons, talking with Christine.
Wanda Dreamwalks, brings her double to the Baxter Building and surrenders. She Just Wants to Talk with America.
The Illuminati Judgement Scene plays out as it did, but Wanda is present. Wanda, Strange and America are in the Glass Prisons.
Reed Richards: "Wanda, I am so sorry to tell you this. I've gotten to study America while she was here. She is a very special young woman, and a unique multiversal anomaly. Across all of time and space, there is only one of her. And her power is inextricably linked to her. If you tried to extract any part of it, it would kill her."
Wanda: "My children are not so special or unique. They exist in countless multiverses. And they are suffering. For all I know, they are dying as we speak. America…In my universe, there was a hero named Tony Stark…when he saw that countless lives would be spared, he made the ultimate sacrifice. I am so sorry to put this burden on you. But please…."
Reed: "Wanda, we do not trade lives."
Wanda: "Since when? Strange searched countless timelines for the one that caused the least death, but Stark is Still Dead. Vision Is Still Dead!"
Strange: "It was the only way."
Wanda: "THIS IS THE ONLY WAY!"
Strange: "Wanda, you're being irrational."
Wanda (slow, quiet): "Irrational? I Blew a Hole in Vision's head. And it meant … Nothing. And I did not get him back. This is Your Perfect Timeline. The one where I have Everything taken from me. Where my children cry out to me in fear … Forever. And you want to talk to me about being irrational?"
Reed (The final judgement): "Wanda…I am so sorry."
Wanda:"... And I … am done … being Sorry."
Wanda bursts out of her glass prison, echoing Magneto's escape in X2.
The rest of the movie plays out as normal.
@@Grandtheatrixdamn yup thats pretty solid.
Lets add to this shall we?
have it end with the illuminati holding her down but struggling to so so, showing their abilities more than we go. In particular some fantastic stretching and demonstrations of his strategic intellect. As they hold her they ask strange for help saying its the only way mirroring Wandas words too. Dr strange, blanking on her name but his gf nurse, america vehemently opposing. Show the Illuminatis cocky side and thinking they know best by deciding to kill her despite not having a full yes. A mini fight insues and instead of them dying horrendously, because they split their fight between wanda, dr strange, america (show her use some of her ability to try ti help wanda despite it all showing her heroic side) they lose their hold on Wanda.
Strange to America: “get out here… now”
America “but”
“NOW!”
Wanda goes to stop her but its too late shes star portalled back to the mcu universe.
Wanda freezes looks on in horror at all the chaos that was caused because of her. Maybe shes killed ONE of the illuminati in a twisted self defense gone too far, but its not the full slaughter that despite being an AMAZING scene is still where wanda broke from her character.
Have her have a realization similar to that winter soldier scene where she realized shed killed all those people.
She looks at Strange with tears in her eyes, a look of relief and acceptance and says “you were right… there’s another way… i can fix this” have her flick her hands wanda style and the illuminati break apart into wanda red cubes as they scream. Then the nurse, then america, then whoever else is there. It keeps the horror factor and feels like a variation on the snap so the viewer has that recognition and thinks omg did she blip them?
Then we look up at her glowing red wanda which form a twisted variation of a heroic song with a horror spin ending on the wanda vision stinger strange “wanda please…” genuine tears of affection and worry And then wanda falls apart into the red cubes as she looks upwards her eyes now glazed over with the red static, and we zoom into her eyes and we can see her sons in them like a fuzzy static red tv screen “mumma??”. She smiles. Then she falls fully apart like the others.
Theres a brief moment of silence. The silence of there being no one in the entire world.
“Wanda what did you do” strange says in horror.
Then the room, the world falls apart in red cubes and we watch on in horror with strange a horror theme goes up with violin peeks up to high notes and poof its a black white screen.
Then a pause.
Credit rolls
We go wait wait wtf???
Black screen
A beat.
Dr strange wakes up taking air in like hes been holding his breath forever. It mirrors the intial start of the film. Next to him in a cute morning robe type thing is Christine Palmer. We notice they both have wedding bands.
“You ok honey? Those nightmares again”
He brushes her away a bit harshly. Jumps to his feat. Goes to use his abilities but he can’t.
“What is this? What is this?”
Rushes out of the room and hes on a balcony maybe its the same house same balcony as the one from the opening wedding?
As he looks up to the sky we see some regular people in suits and various business atire flying about the sky. Some flying kids too. Then a big robotic sound as a sentinels flies by the balcony like some weird blip. as we zoom out we see there’s a festival of some kind but the excited crows walking down the street all have unusal appearances and are demonstrating various abilities. there is a Castle in center view of what otherwise looks like a futuristic new york.
Back to strange going “what the F-?”
Then camera cuts to a slow zoom out from a wanda standing super still seemingly in a catatonic state, her children in her lap, her mindlessly playing in their hair. Vision at her side like a mindless stone bodyguard to show us something is definitely wrong.
As the camera continues to zoom out we see another young man standing protectively by her side… its pietro. Not Bonher but actual pietro. Standing defiantly by her side, camera keeps zooming out and there is an older man more serious, dressed in the same royal military uniform pietro and vision are with a little M on it. A certain x men villain theme plays as we recognize the man… it’s Fox’s Magneto: Ian Mckellen with Polaris by his side looking at him lovingly, played by Emma Dumont from The Gifted.
They are in a royal palace . Magneto is giving some victory speech about all the greatness of mutants in front of a bunch of cameras held in the air with wandas red magic.
Camera keeps panning out and we see down below the palace a crowd of happy mutants displaying their abilities, some easter eggs we recognize, watching on.
Xmen 90s theme plays victoriously with lots of oomf.
Fade to black.
A title on the screen:
“Wanda and Strange will be back in… HOUSE OF M”
Black screen
Star portal.
America appears in the Sanctum Santorum infront of a surprised Wong mouth open chopsticks with noodles a few inches from his mouth.
America “I need your help!”
@mnkykungfu
🤦♂️ Yet another imbecile who fails to grasp that *the Darkhold messed with her mind* !
@@afrosymphony8207 🤦♂️ Yet another imbecile who fails to grasp that *the Darkhold messed with her mind* !
Really enjoy her pragmatism and professionalism for all this varied projects,including the ginormous MCU machine. No drama or shit talking or mysticism just "this what I do and I get it done" energy.
It's crazy to me how they make movies sometimes. It's like they're on a train and building the tracks in front of them as they go.
Same. It seems surreal to me how they get much of anything done. Particularly in productions where screenwriters work against the clock to rewrite entire drafts on the go. How do they that with all the budgetary restrictions & occasional writers' block.
It feels like there's a lack of care for actual writing in Hollywood. They constantly have people with no experience writing for films with budgets of 100s of millions of dollars. Or even worse, these people have experience, but they've only written for terrible movies. Although I could see why it'd be so prevalent at Marvel. If they're very controlling, then naturally they'd want inexperienced writers that are willing to do whatever to please their boss.
@@RealEllenDeGeneres Same with directors. Indie filmmakers like Ryan Boden & Anna Fleck or yes-men like Peyton Reed. Although in the Russo's & Taika Waitit's case, they seemed to retain their style &/or a notable level of influence over their films.
Honestly, these days it's more like building the tracks behind the train. The train derails, and then the studio justifies why they went in that direction and calls anything that happened to work "part of the plan".
@@mnkykungfu I think fans especially do that. When things go right, they say "see we should've just been patient, it's a long-term plan" as if we shouldn't critique movies on their own merits but for what will or won't pay off years later. Not necessarily an example from the same cloth, but the responses to MCU Spider-Man arc were like this after NHW. Suddenly, Homecoming & FFH were much better portrayal of Spider-Man because it was a "long-haul" origin story.
As much as I didn’t like what MOM did to her character I do appreciate that Elizabeth Olsen brought her best to her role in it. She was amazing & so many of her scenes were amazing & I’ll always appreciate that part of the movie.
Thinking about it more especially seeing some of the behind the scenes info, it's really sad how Doctor Strange 2 was executed very poorly and could have been amazing. It was advertised way early on that Wandavision would lead into it but the writers for DS2 hadn't even seen WV so Wanda's emotional arc didn't make sense from one to the other.
Multiverse of Madness is amazing! I read a quote from Michael Waldron where he said that he actually read all the scripts for WandaVision. He definitely worked closely with the creative team behind WandaVision.
Wanda's arc definitely makes sense from the one project to the other. She says at the end of WandaVision, "I don't understand this power, but I will." She stole the Darkhold from Agatha to learn more about her powers, but she only knew about the book from Agatha, who was also corrupted and manipulated. She was an isolated fugitive for a year in between the two projects, so it makes sense for her to gradually turn to villainy with the immense power and knowledge of the Darkhold.
I also love that Wanda acts a lot like Agatha in MoM because of her time with the Darkhold. Agatha is a mentor to Wanda in the comics, so I love how Agatha somewhat mentored Wanda into becoming a power-hungry villain. Once they eventually reunite, Wanda will understand why Agatha stalked her for her powers since she had a similar experience with America Chavez.
@@daltonmeadesmith not necessarily on point
but you are right about how Wanda being the villain of Multiverse of Madness makes sense
since the show had not been fully finished since it was still in post-production, Waldron could only read the WandaVision scripts and since it's only words to describe what Wanda went through in the show, you're missing the emotional and tragic elements in the presentation of the story. If you only look at the plot of WandaVision without any of the tragic elements it used, the story comes off as a villain origin story for Wanda, hence Waldron got the impression that Wanda would make a great villain in Multiverse of Madness.
Unfortunately, it's really all about the execution and it didn't help that Wanda's arc in Multiverse of Madness did come off as being similar to WandaVision. That part is what Elizabeth Olsen was really worried about, not the fact that she'll be the villain, especially since she did love playing the villain and enjoyed it. Multiverse of Madness Wanda is basically Last Jedi Luke, but is not as jarring cause the twist is easily covered up by circumstances as to what happened to Wanda after WandaVision.
It's a rather complicated issue that the internet cannot comprehend unfortunately
@kendrick5501 It's definitely a very complex topic, and it's really all subjective. For me, MoM was the perfect payoff to Agatha's warnings about the Scarlet Witch prophesy. It was the most fascinating possible path for Wanda as a character after the events of WandaVision in my eyes.
I think it's totally fine that it's a little repetitive because she hadn't gotten over the loss of her children. She initially just wanted to learn more about her powers with the Darkhold so she wouldn't make the same mistakes again, but the book saw the potential of this mythical woman and amplified her grief. Wanda realistically wanted to maintain some semblance of the happy life she had in Westview, so the Darkhold provided her the truth about the multiverse. It's a very tragic story, and therefore extremely fascinating for me.
I can't wait for Agatha: Coven of Chaos because that show will definitely put a much needed spotlight on the witchy corner of the MCU.
I loved it more than the first film
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn same here. It was very entertaining and visually gorgeous for an mcu movie. The first one was pretty boring but only had some cool visuals.
It’s interesting that she and John Krasinski (who played Reed Richards) weren’t together on set since they had a scene directly between them.
It's pretty normal with scenes with a lot of CGI
it is one of many pieces to the overall failure of contemporary marvel media
It was so painfully obvious they weren't all there in those scenes, and not just from the editing. The Illuminati reactions to their friends being killed were waaay off. One of the many things wrong with the movie. Kudos to her and other actors trying their best to make it work. The environment did them no favours.
Multiverse of Madness is an excellent film. It's way better than most Marvel movies in the Infinity Saga, so I don't understand all the criticism lately.
@@daltonmeadesmith oh my...no. Just no. No.
@@daltonmeadesmith poorly stiched together and changed over and over again not settling on a main direction so yeah it's pretty much a mediocre film with some good moments but it's an overall poor package.
@Ron Burgundy It's all subjective. In my eyes, MoM is the best Marvel film along with Wakanda Forever. WandaVision is my favorite show ever created, and MoM is an amazing continuation for me. It's definitely not poorly stitched together, in my opinion. It's a brilliant film with a fresh horror tone that's carried over from WandaVision.
@@daltonmeadesmith well that is your dumb opinion
They did Wanda dirty with MOM. It was one of the first times I thought "Marvel isn't caring about their characters like they used to."
she's such a good actress
i love her so much bro
Disney/MCU's fear of spoilers really has been a determent to them
I love her so much
She can never hide her hatred for this movie 😂 i love her
MoM was a fun movie to watch bad honestly it was really bad (plot-wise). Wanda was already the villian in WV and they made her a villian AGAIN for literally no reason. Wanda could have been a Thanos level threat, and they could made a really interesting interactions between all characters (who obviously know her), and they completely wasted it. Also Olsen is very charismatic and a great actress. They should have known better.
Her laugh is so infectious
They had awesome talent with Scott Derrickson and a plan. And then they screwed it up because they couldnt just let a director fulfill his vision. Sad.
I’m pretty sure he left the project because he was struggling with depression
Such a tragic character played by such a talented actress. Part of me hopes they bring her back for something
I love her interviews so much, she's just herself!
Imagine being a method actor on a marvel film. It just would be impossible 😂
An actor with mime training would excel at all the green screen moments.
Man. She is the best
'I had two days to pack!'
How long does it take you to pack lmfao
She's politely calling out how the movie was shit in terms of being anything more than a Raimi vanity project popcorn flick.
this is where she called out the writer for multiverse of madness
Sam Raimi was brought into the production kind of late (because Scott Derrickson had left due to creative differences), so it's understandable that things would change a bit. Apparently, Scott wanted to make a more traditional horror movie, but Marvel wanted a movie that fit more inline with what had come before. Honestly I can understand both sides.
I’ve heard Marvel is commonly like this. They will rewrite things even while on set.
@@thats_suber I can imagine that part of the reason they may do this is because they have SO many leaks of story material that changing it while filming might be a way to curtail some of this.
That’s simply not how u make a film.
You tell a STORY, that’s what your audience wants to see. You don’t just film YT-clips, Disney
I wanna see her in more stuff
We can't say a movie that made $955 M was a failure, but perhaps it can be called a disappointment. But how many tickets _didn't_ sell in the subsequent movies because of disappointment? I can't help thinking we'd have had 3 Doctor Strange movies by last year if the character had been owned by Sony, like the ones we got from Spider-Man. The only superhero movie I'm looking forward to is Beyond the Spider-Verse, which multiverse story has yet to disappoint. Unfortunately, Sony seems to want to do another _No Way Home_ multiverse story with Spider-Man as well as make a lot of Spider-Manless movies. Sigh.
I guess it depends if they would've even made a similar deal with Sony to make Dr. Strange movies in the MCU. With Spider-Man, he's Marvel's premiere character and a vital part of the universe in stories like Civil War which they were doing at the time; they were apparently trying to work out something with them since 2012. In Dr. Strange's case, while he was a character Marvel wanted to work with since the start, I don't know if they'd be rushing to work out a similar deal to get him with Sony's conditions but maybe a smaller deal so he'd appear in a team-up films like Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver with Fox.
So I'm not sue if he would've gotten 3 movies by now the same way Spider-Man did.
You don't know how much they spent on the movie. If budget has 300 mil, with 200 mil marketing, then it barely made profit. Cause theatres take up to 50-60% of the money
Plus they made that much in sales due to the massive goodwill they earned leading up to End Game. Which they promptly squandered away starting from MoM all the way to the embarrassment that was The Marvels.
@@CATDHD There was a recent report on what the net budget was cited by Forbes which revealed it to be $414.9 million and they roughly estimated that for it to be profitable , it would've needed to make (2.5-3x the production budget) or $1.037-1.244 billion. It made $955 million. So based on this, it might've not been a flop, but it wasn't exactly profitable.
Wandvision Forever.
She's amazing in love and death
I hope her other possible projects are a better filming experience than MoM was
I mean...it wasn't that bad in my opinion. Wanda has had multiple dark moments in the comics so we were just seeing what would happen if she read the Darkhold. She had JUST learned about her witch powers so of course she'd be in a vulnerable headspace. It was a way to work in some Cthon lore and honestly I enjoyed her performance waaay more in MoM than WandaVision. She's great in both, just a preference, and we get to see how scary Wanda can be.
Elizabeth Olsen is the best
The scene where she destroys those dudes, it was one of the coolest things I have ever seen in a comic book movie.
I have a demented love for that movie!. Mainly I just loved how every little kid in my theater burst into tears right about the time she turned Mr. Fantastic into spaghetti!
Victor, your hatred for Reed isnt healthy. Stop.
@@MXedits_1 Silence! Who are you to question the heart of Doom? No one!
@@johnnyqd6861that’s sadistic. How could you derive enjoyment from that?
@@mark9294 Because it’s fun?
Waiting for her return.
I respect her being honest. Clearly a complete mess of a film
The moment when you know for sure that *The MCU is as-is,* is *systemically broken* is when Strange walks up to Wanda in that orchard, she makes some off-hand remark, he’s like *”Yeah, I’m not here to talk to you about Westview -“*
What do you mean as-is?
It’s amazing that Multiverse of Madness came out as good as it did
Pardon? Did we watch the same movie
@@youresohot1392 I mean it isn’t BAD
@@A.ManAlone I feel like it's pretty awful. But I'm the kind of person who cares about character arcs and motivations more than cool visual sequences and cameos.
And the character work in MoM was absolutely abysmal.
Yall wanted Wanda to grow and also have the Darkhold. You obviously don’t get both lol its two years later yall haven’t tried to gain perspective at all in that time, I was disappointed to, but have since reflected and the movie still isn’t perfect but I understand it in terms of the larger vision now.
We have a perfect example of an object corrupting someone over years. It's The One Ring, from Lord of the Rings. They already figured out a very effective way to shoot it's influence on characters and scenes. They didn't do Any of that. Movies are about Images, not Words. We are not here to be Told how the evil book is corrupting her, we wanna See it.
@@Grandtheatrix u did see it corrupt her, it’s the events of MoM lol also, the suggestion that every evil artifact is supposed to work like the one Ring is nuts. That’s its own property, it can keep its mechanics and lore over there. This is the MCU. Where there’s a lot to see and not a lot of time to do it. Is it supposed to be another 9 episodes of the darkhold corrupting her before she can acceptably be evil enough to be an antagonist? WandaVision already ends on her being corrupted slowly, and hearing her kids. They showed what they had to. Strange 2 MAIN problem, is it’s advertisement as a multiverse movie, at a time we were very much hyped to see worlds colliding, and we didn’t get that. It’s a failure as a multiverse movie, but as a movie and its treatment of characters, y’all are off base.
@@SilvLocs Going from complicated but working on it (WV end) to plain evil (start of MoM) is not us seeing it corrupt her, its her immediately being corrupted... Also, you can bet your ass Dr. Strange is not going to become an irredeemable villain in his next MCU outing, despite him also reading the darkhold.
Just face it. Sam Raimi wanted to do his horror-comic book vanity project and he just moved the characters around to do that, not caring about characterization, progression of plots, the greater universe, etc.
They released it because it would sell, and it did, but we can see how the MCU has absolutely collapsed this phase because of decisions like that. WV -> MoM was just the first step for those paying attention, now its everywhere and there's no salvageing it.
@@jt1973 bro TOUCHED the darkhold, being compared to someone who very obviously is implied to have been handling it for months. I don’t need to face anything other than you’re being childish borderline baby you’re better than that we wanted something fresh for the mcu, u got a horror comic book movie (hindered from going all the way by Disney) and still complained. I ALSO was let down when I saw it. It is NOT perfect or even great, but it’s solid when u take it for what it is. Anything else is just reaching and nitpicking
Eet ees a baid thing when it falls on the actors to thematically differentiate the movie from previous movies
The writing for Wanda just got worse and worse. Very Disappointing
She seems really cool and down to earth. She’d make a great Harley Quinn in the Colin Farrell, Robert Batenbat universe
Nice vocal fry.
That explain why Marvel sucks now.
no, it doesn't, if you watch behind the scenes of iron man, they talk about how things changed as they shoot, how things were improvised, and it's the model they've used on nearly every MCU film since, but of course sometimes that doesn't pay off, the newer films not being as good is more of a reflection on how phenomenal the peak of the infinity saga was, rather than, everything sucks now, lots of things went right with a risky model for those films and we got spoiled, they carried on with that model and it just hasnt paid off in the same way, but if you want movies like Endgame, then we should support the risky fluid nature of things, because thats how great mcu films are made, but it's also how the not so great ones are made too.
The MCU generally always had films that went entered production without complete scripts, or went through multiple rewrites, or reshoots, going back to the first Ironman. The first is a problem that's been plaguing tentpole films for years & more are only decrying it now in the MCU because the projects have been whiplashing in quality due to multiple factors like the increased output per year (which only brings attention to it) and COVID restricting the productions.
If there's one thing they seem to be doing right with the DCU based on what James Gunn has said, it's not having projects go into production without completed scripts.
Wow MoM was garbage?
Yes.
I liked it.
Nope! It was a brilliant example of how comicbooks could have side stories with consequences that means nothing to the main lines, unless they want to
I am SO ready for official one-off movies, and then (fingers crossed) the indie movies with Marvels official Okay (and shorts and shows)
Bring the FULL open creative that comics finally became after decades
And make it so we can see those pages dance and move!
It wasn't great, but it was good. A fun ride with some great wtf moments and dragged in the in-betweens
I've seen it twice, which outside of No Way Home (many viewings), is more than a lot of comic movies since End Game (and even a few prior)
Will I watch it again? Probably. Will I ever recommended it? Only to fans of Rammie or enjoyers of body horror (I've rewatched that massacre scene MANY times. The fact that X's head starts spinning at the JAW LINE and not the neck just gives his decap moment that much more 'oooohhhhh woooow'. Absolutely gorish allusions without showing it. Masterful execution. Heh, yeah... I suppose the pun IS intended)
Mmm, when are we just going to call a lie a lie? You cant be protective of a character & at the same time just "film what they tell you" or not read drafts. That is the exact oposite. Tom cruise is "protective of his characters" (and only his lol, woe to his leading laidies.) You did what you were told, and your character/audience suffered for it. Which is a choice depending on the type of actor you want to be, but cut the bullshit please.
She may be indeed protective but it's ultimately out of her hands as the character & film are cogs in a large corporate machine. There's a space in those type of franchises for a more stylistic, creator driven projects like WandaVision where she can have more of a say on how to present the character & what will be more true to them.
@@themadtitan7603 but she didn't do it in WandaVision either. Spending half an episode explaining how her Powers work, then showing her powers do something completely different with no explanation as to how that's possible is an example. She may be concerned, or invested, but she's not Protective, weather it's in her hands or not. At least she hasn't displayed it through the released work.
@@hublaze3042 May you elaborate on what those episodes are & how they contradict? And when I picture an actor being protective of the character, I think of how they're careful to authentically portray their characterization consistently with what they've crafted priorly with the writer/director. Not so much the technicality of their powers and other stuff that's more on the writer(s) to figure out.
first of all, if you are looking for deep truth, don't watch effing hollywood interviews about simplistic super hero trash. I mean what on earth are you two even doing with this convo? One throwaway line during the interview and two literal obsessions about it.