That. Is. Amazing! I always felt I pay way too much for shingles. Now. I am happy to reference this video to my clients! And. No joke. I would hate to see their Insurrance mill bills.
Squamish B.C, used to have a shake mill, 2 cedar mills, a sawmill, dozen logging operations and a pulp mill...now a teardown house is a million and we have 2 starbucks and 4 designer donut shops.....
I am a shingle sawyer myself and where I work the equipement is waaaaay safer than this. I started out with equipement something like this but it's been upgraded quite a bit. And by the way that is a looooooooot of waste there. If I would be wasting wood like that I would probably be in trouble for it.
@@bobpiff5161 I find you are cutting pretty wide when you cut the edges. I try to keep it as minimal as I can. We accept shingles 2" wide and up. So when I see a piece 4" wide go down the hole, to me there is a shingle there. But I mean it depends what the company sells so I guess it's different everywhere. Now with the guards we have we can't cut more than one shingle at a time.
@@patrickpelletier9458 Ok, I see just enough to straighten the edge a get rid of any wane. A 2” wide shingle will split, if not now, in the near future when installed so these are discarded. Thanks for your perspective.
Most impressive, would have never figured the process of producing a single wood shingle , nice to see the inventive entrepreneur crushing out by the pallet load & Made in USA @ that, nice job gents.
This video and all the machines are from Canada. I can find you a good used machine or have a new one made. I’m pretty sure that German health and safety regulations would never allow this to be used in Germany. I have 35 years experience with German/Austrian/Bavarian schindel makers as well as Canadian. Please let me know how I can help you. Thanks for your message. Prost!
It’s a neat video, because normally people in cities never see these types of operations. Both it depends on the application. I don’t see why you couldn’t shim door frames with them, except for the expensive extra steps they take in machining. I like that they cut the blocks to length with the custom made double chain saw at the beginning of the video. That makes every shim a consistent length. They’re are also cutting them to width with the spring board saw. ( yes wicked dangerous operations, but common in mills ) Lots of times shims come in weird withs cause Carpenters just break them or saw them off I’d say they’re for roofing because of the details and care they’re taking to size them
This video and all the machines are from Canada. I can find you a good used machine or have a new one made. I’m pretty sure that German health and safety regulations would never allow this to be used in Germany. I have 35 years experience with German/Austrian/Bavarian schindel makers as well as Canadian. Please let me know how I can help you. Thanks for your message. Prost!
has anyone ever reached back too far and stuck their arm in that big saw blade on the taper cutting machine? lol. nice set up at that mill. i can smell the fresh cut cedar from here.
You are correct. Shingles, as we know them in North America are sawn on the same machines as in this video. Tapersawn shakes were developed as a new product based on a roofing system that was similar to the NA way of applying split cedar shakes, which is basically two layers of wood, with the 3rd waterproofing layer being an interlayment of asphalt paper, aka shake felt. It allowed mills to produce a sawn shingle from wood that does not split uniformly enough to make a hand-split and resawn shake. Available in both 18” and 24” lengths, the most common thicknesses are 5/8”, 3/4” and 7/8”. When good quality wood is used, and graded fairly, this has proven to be a good roofing system. It is easier and faster to produce than shingles - which require more pieces per square foot because it depends on 3 layers of wood as a waterproof roof. It is also easier and faster to install, requiring less skilled labour. So, 16” shingles are still called 5X, 18” shingles are called Perfections and 24” shingles are called Royals. Tapersawn shakes are just thick shingles, graded slightly differently, packages differently and applied differently than “shingles.” Hope that helps explain it. Thanks for stopping by!
1:40 yeah, after a couple decades of sawing I had to start wearing a mask, I should have done it a lot sooner though. Now after 4-5 years retirement my lungs are just finally getting to be decent.
I don't care what the excuse is. I worked in shake/shingle mills I'm Washington state. We would have killed for this cream wood. The safety concerns are understood by those working there. Many employs are missing fingers and I know of at least one crippling. Dangerous place but smells great.😁
I ve done plenty of production work. Thats a hell i can now live happily without. Those that think this is unsafe just dont know barebones living. Those that have never done production work are just lucky but maybe arrogant worms as well. Sending this type of work overseas is bullshit
Guys a butcher. I saw shingles now and cutting splints and spalts like that would get my ass fired right now. Also needs to learn to tip up his jointer saw. If your going to be recorded, atleast do the best job possible.
What is it that makes you think the jointer is dull? Looks to me like they just fall right through it effortlessly. the head saw is pretty rough but sounds sharp enough too.
What a waste!! Why don't you butt the piece of cedar up against something, then cut your length off? Just as precise! Your way wastes I bet a whole tree per day with those 1"&1/2" left-overs on each end!! And the guy cutting the shakes to width has his elbow 4" from that arm removal saw!!!
That. Is. Amazing! I always felt I pay way too much for shingles. Now. I am happy to reference this video to my clients! And. No joke. I would hate to see their Insurrance mill bills.
Nice to see there still using the cut back saw I built
Squamish B.C, used to have a shake mill, 2 cedar mills, a sawmill, dozen logging operations and a pulp mill...now a teardown house is a million and we have 2 starbucks and 4 designer donut shops.....
I am a shingle sawyer myself and where I work the equipement is waaaaay safer than this. I started out with equipement something like this but it's been upgraded quite a bit. And by the way that is a looooooooot of waste there. If I would be wasting wood like that I would probably be in trouble for it.
Patricpelletier
Can you explain the waste? Looks like perfect trimming to me with minimal, but necessary waste to me
@@bobpiff5161 I find you are cutting pretty wide when you cut the edges. I try to keep it as minimal as I can. We accept shingles 2" wide and up. So when I see a piece 4" wide go down the hole, to me there is a shingle there. But I mean it depends what the company sells so I guess it's different everywhere. Now with the guards we have we can't cut more than one shingle at a time.
@@patrickpelletier9458
Ok, I see just enough to straighten the edge a get rid of any wane. A 2” wide shingle will split, if not now, in the near future when installed so these are discarded. Thanks for your perspective.
How many fingers have been lost to making shakes ?
I will NEVER complain about my job again!
Nice quality product.
Most impressive, would have never figured the process of producing a single wood shingle , nice to see the inventive entrepreneur crushing out by the pallet load & Made in USA @ that, nice job gents.
Love that yellow cedar smell. BC or Alaska?
This video and all the machines are from Canada. I can find you a good used machine or have a new one made. I’m pretty sure that German health and safety regulations would never allow this to be used in Germany. I have 35 years experience with German/Austrian/Bavarian schindel makers as well as Canadian. Please let me know how I can help you. Thanks for your message. Prost!
Gonna be nice to get back to work after been sick 😷 for a week omg
Are these shakes or shingles? I'm looking at them being cut vs. being split then resawn.
It’s a neat video, because normally people in cities never see these types of operations.
Both it depends on the application.
I don’t see why you couldn’t shim door frames with them, except for the expensive extra steps they take in machining.
I like that they cut the blocks to length with the custom made double chain saw at the beginning of the video.
That makes every shim a consistent length.
They’re are also cutting them to width with the spring board saw. ( yes wicked dangerous operations, but common in mills )
Lots of times shims come in weird withs cause Carpenters just break them or saw them off
I’d say they’re for roofing because of the details and care they’re taking to size them
Shingles
the blades are not well protected .. plus do they wear hearing guards?
Why do you care Mr busybody… you don’t work there. Sheesh 🙄
wo bekommt man in D so eine Maxschine zu kaufen - nur in USA ????
This video and all the machines are from Canada. I can find you a good used machine or have a new one made. I’m pretty sure that German health and safety regulations would never allow this to be used in Germany. I have 35 years experience with German/Austrian/Bavarian schindel makers as well as Canadian. Please let me know how I can help you. Thanks for your message. Prost!
boy would i like a skid of those
That is quite possibly the most dangerous production line I have ever seen
I’ve run machinery like that lots of times.
That’s a typical operation.
Let’s put it this way
One pays attention
Their OSHA inspector took one look at their operation and died.
It would only take one moment of lost focus to lose some fingers.
has anyone ever reached back too far and stuck their arm in that big saw blade on the taper cutting machine? lol. nice set up at that mill. i can smell the fresh cut cedar from here.
Lost a part of two fingers on the big blade
I thought shingles are cut like this. Shakes are split.
You are correct. Shingles, as we know them in North America are sawn on the same machines as in this video. Tapersawn shakes were developed as a new product based on a roofing system that was similar to the NA way of applying split cedar shakes, which is basically two layers of wood, with the 3rd waterproofing layer being an interlayment of asphalt paper, aka shake felt. It allowed mills to produce a sawn shingle from wood that does not split uniformly enough to make a hand-split and resawn shake. Available in both 18” and 24” lengths, the most common thicknesses are 5/8”, 3/4” and 7/8”. When good quality wood is used, and graded fairly, this has proven to be a good roofing system. It is easier and faster to produce than shingles - which require more pieces per square foot because it depends on 3 layers of wood as a waterproof roof. It is also easier and faster to install, requiring less skilled labour. So, 16” shingles are still called 5X, 18” shingles are called Perfections and 24” shingles are called Royals. Tapersawn shakes are just thick shingles, graded slightly differently, packages differently and applied differently than “shingles.” Hope that helps explain it. Thanks for stopping by!
@@woodroofguy Hello! Would you mind if I feature it on UA-cam with a credit?
@@galyaretka Howdy! Thank you for checking in. Yes, please go ahead and use the video. Thank you for asking. Cheers.
@@woodroofguy thanks
I can smell this video
Looks like sumner machines. I sawed on those for years.
that machine looks like a dia saw machine
1:40 yeah, after a couple decades of sawing I had to start wearing a mask, I should have done it a lot sooner though. Now after 4-5 years retirement my lungs are just finally getting to be decent.
WOW, no danger here eh.. CRRRRRRRRAAAZZZYYYY!!!!!!
I don't care what the excuse is. I worked in shake/shingle mills I'm Washington state. We would have killed for this cream wood. The safety concerns are understood by those working there. Many employs are missing fingers and I know of at least one crippling. Dangerous place but smells great.😁
haha someone is filing saws in the background
Block piler / cut back saywer
what no safety guards
I ve done plenty of production work. Thats a hell i can now live happily without. Those that think this is unsafe just dont know barebones living. Those that have never done production work are just lucky but maybe arrogant worms as well. Sending this type of work overseas is bullshit
Guys a butcher. I saw shingles now and cutting splints and spalts like that would get my ass fired right now. Also needs to learn to tip up his jointer saw. If your going to be recorded, atleast do the best job possible.
What is it that makes you think the jointer is dull? Looks to me like they just fall right through it effortlessly.
the head saw is pretty rough but sounds sharp enough too.
still cool but
Should shut the plant down, too many risk for employees. Machinery can be made to be safe for production
What a waste!! Why don't you butt the piece of cedar up against something, then cut your length off? Just as precise! Your way wastes I bet a whole tree per day with those 1"&1/2" left-overs on each end!! And the guy cutting the shakes to width has his elbow 4" from that arm removal saw!!!
I guess ghe gaps between shingles is how they increase profits while screwing the consumer.