15 Everyday Uses for Apple Vision Pro!

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  • @glassapple2970
    @glassapple2970 4 місяці тому +48

    The 1st time I used mine for productivity, and had all the info I needed in a 180 degree circle around me in a standing workstation position. No windows covered by other windows. No limitations of only having 2 screens for all those windows.. It was just so helpful and fun! Dragging files around through the air to move them.. The whole experience was like another new 1st iPhone experience. 😁. In that I knew there was no way I ever wanted to go back to the way things were before.

    • @koenignero
      @koenignero 2 місяці тому +2

      But unlike the iphone you pay a price by wearing a heavy display on your head

  • @VisionProforNerds
    @VisionProforNerds 4 місяці тому +16

    Very nice video!, I personally love mine the more I own it and it’s definitely a device unlike any other. It’s definitely a device that the more you own it the more you understand it. And then you honestly don’t wanna go back to just a regular MacBook or desktop.(or Tv)

  • @gabrield4892
    @gabrield4892 4 місяці тому +4

    One of my fav Vision pro videos (I’ve watched them all lol). Can’t wait for this to become available in my country. Please more videos like this.

  • @tomhargett3367
    @tomhargett3367 4 місяці тому +1

    As always, I appreciate your thoughts on the thing. For myself, I plan on waiting a few generations, but I’m guessing that they end up EVENTUALLY becoming as widespread as iPhones.

  • @marlinthecreative118
    @marlinthecreative118 4 місяці тому +1

    I am a writer and I like to write in different places, but I am always looking down. I am looking at it for this use mainly. When you are working on a manuscript for a few hours at a time the looking down can be a bit straining. I have actually noticed it is affecting my walking posture. I think this would solve many problems. At this time the main application I use doesn’t have a Vision Pro app, but can be run via a web browser, so is useable. I will need a keyboard, but everything else seems perfect.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  4 місяці тому +1

      I think this is a device you definitely have to try. There are so many variables. Do you enjoy the feel of the device? The viewing experience? Portability? This is a device I would not feel guilty using the return period. A small demo at the Apple Store is not enough. Lets us know if you get one and your experience. Thanks for watching.

    • @RolandDobbins
      @RolandDobbins 4 місяці тому

      The Ulysses testflight on AVP works wonderfully for long-form writing, IMHO.

    • @marlinthecreative118
      @marlinthecreative118 Місяць тому

      @@CraigsTechTalk I gave in and bought a Vision Pro. It is a bit of a learning curve from the normal computing environment, but something that is fun and interesting to learn. I like many of the capabilities (i.e. the larger screen projected from the Mac, the ability to use the Mac keyboard/trackpad on the apps in the Vision Pro.). Thanks for the advice.

  • @SmirkInvestigator
    @SmirkInvestigator 3 місяці тому

    Bought am onkyo htib for $50 off a neighbor. Most surprisingly accurate, clear and balanced in both sound and spatial experience I’ve ever heard as a regular small apt consumer. I’m assuming it was a freak pairing of room dynamics and whatever. I would totally spend a premium to get guaranteed satisfactory surround sound and theater screen anywhere without sweaty ear buds or head phones. Large $400 cans aren’t always the most comfortable. I’ll trade the burden from ears to eyes from time to time.

  • @mrpmj00
    @mrpmj00 27 днів тому +1

    - I can imagine air traffic controllers and the military will find the Apple Vision Pro useful to show many screens simultaneously that are 150-400 inches each...that's a lot of information.
    - Current F16 figher helmets are $400k each with just a HUD, whereas the AVP could be incorporated into a helmet for far less than $400k.
    - Infantry soldiers wearing a helmet with the AVP.
    - AVP's passthrough is 120 degrees which allow real world interaction with the firearm, target, throwing/catching.
    - I want to get the Apple Vision Pro, it's not that expensive compared to a great home theater, and people don't realize that it's got eye tracking (no mouse cursor), an 8k screen, many many 300 in screens, 3D camera, spatial audio speakers, creates an Imax or the biggest commercial theater screen size even when you're sitting in a tight coach airline seat.
    - the eye tracking (replaced a cursor) us a game changer.
    - way easier to develop than Facebook Quest.
    - AVP is not constrained to a box game model like the Quest, instead the AVP world model is infinite.
    - air traffic controllers can see the perspective of a commercial plane pilot landing.
    - The AVP's many many virtual 150in-300in screens can replace a commercial airline cockpit's many physical screens, and that physical space can hold more important physical equipments.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Craig. 👍🏻

  • @SmirkInvestigator
    @SmirkInvestigator 3 місяці тому +1

    Honestly if you could tether or use wireless HDMI input for 4K HDR console and PC games they’d solve a huge marketing and use case problem. Add the updated Siri ai and smarter voice control like you mention and I might throw down for one. PS Remote play, or Crossover on MacOS mirroring isn’t a premium experience. And I don’t play dopamine stim mobile arcade games that much. Engineering, games, media and work space, and environmental escapism are all I can think of for VR/AR usecases. NVIDIA is humoring Apple on engineering. They nailed media consumption. Work space seems great at 2.0. They need more environmental escapism. More immersive entertainment experiences and environment backgrounds. I can’t wait till content creation hardware and tools start maturing for this product. But that’s only if they succeed.

  • @2018NukNuk
    @2018NukNuk 2 місяці тому

    I had a external battery in the early nineties, in a big vhs camera LOL

  • @Johantheman
    @Johantheman 4 місяці тому

    How can you see the physical keyboard when wearing the Vision Pro?

    • @VisionProforNerds
      @VisionProforNerds 4 місяці тому

      You simply turn down the environment a little bit if it’s on. But for mine, like everything else you get used to it, and I rarely have to turn it down that much.

  • @stanbarley
    @stanbarley 4 місяці тому

    Still not sure I want to wait or buy it now. Cuz the battery pack ain’t it 😅

  • @curtispazarjr4985
    @curtispazarjr4985 4 місяці тому

    great review!!!!!

  • @scupking
    @scupking 4 місяці тому

    Nothing about AVP interests me. I have a Quest 2 and that's all I need for some VR fun.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching.

  • @MikeLikesChannel
    @MikeLikesChannel Місяць тому +2

    The secret is to buy one *lightly used*
    $2000 tax free. *Well worth it*
    Buying it for $3500 plus tax at retail? Heck no.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  Місяць тому +1

      You are right about going for the slightly used. Such a huge savings. Thanks for watching.

  • @georgioocean7629
    @georgioocean7629 6 днів тому

    Let’s see 🤔buy a car or buy a Vision Pro

  • @petesansom5737
    @petesansom5737 2 місяці тому

    I think this is great if you live alone but it's not going to work in a family environment.

  • @johnkwolf
    @johnkwolf 4 місяці тому

    Sounds good but almost everything you said it can do quest dose movie games use it for work. It’s going to have to be alot better in the future.

  • @heliman29
    @heliman29 4 місяці тому

    You said “limited” 3500 (dollars) times in this video. I feel like it needs to pair with a typewriter…

  • @DakotaArnold_Syndicate
    @DakotaArnold_Syndicate 29 днів тому

    This really doesn’t have a true practical use from what I’m seeing other than watching entertainment for the immersive experience. Everything else you can do on any tablet.

  • @calebweintraub1
    @calebweintraub1 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazed that there isn’t substantial mixed reality content or support for for robust 3D integration with this device. At first I thought Zuckerberg’s video from just after the release was just him trolling, but having compared the devices, his assessment was right.Resizable screens are available on the quest and even on the 2014 HoloLens. That said, if Siri ends up leveraging the new multimodal open AI model, there may be some value in having the product with that level of assistant, but at this point it’s not useful.

  • @milkyway6724
    @milkyway6724 3 місяці тому

    you can buy with a car with that

  • @robertrobles4178
    @robertrobles4178 3 місяці тому

    sounds like a weaker version of the Meta Quest

  • @dreamtasterfpv2216
    @dreamtasterfpv2216 2 місяці тому

    Useles for work..more for tv or games but useless

  • @wandarah
    @wandarah 3 місяці тому

    Am I missing something, this looks absurd.

  • @archangelmichael8620
    @archangelmichael8620 4 місяці тому +36

    I just purchased mine yesterday and I can tell you this. The last time I had this feeling is the day of the iPhone original launch. I just finished watching Blade Runner 2049 and what an amazing experience. Especially in the middle of the desert.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  4 місяці тому +5

      Very cool. Glad to hear you have had that experience. It is a whole new experience. Like you said it is like the iPhone when it came out. thanks for sharing.

    • @koenignero
      @koenignero 2 місяці тому +2

      I heard this from ppl with 3D Glasses and 3D Tvs, a year later no one wanted to wear glasses on the face for watching a movie and chill

  • @davem.2788
    @davem.2788 4 місяці тому +15

    I love my Vision Pros. Have had it nearly a couple of months. The media function is the absolutely best aspect about it. And it's only going to get better. Highly recommend. This technology is game changing.

  • @BobbieGWhiz
    @BobbieGWhiz 4 місяці тому +7

    I watched this on my Meta Quest 3 headset while laying on my back doing my morning stretches. Hopefully in the future Quest will get a lot better, or Vision Pro will get a lot cheaper.

  • @BenedictChrysosthomos
    @BenedictChrysosthomos 4 місяці тому +4

    Because I don’t have any room free or big enough for my own home theatre, I‘ll definitely will buy one, when it becomes available in Europe. It is even cheaper than the whole home theatre stuff. And using it for Safari, Mail, other Apps and as a display for my Macs are welcome additional benefits.
    And about the price for the Vision Pro: my Apple][ costed around 10000 DM (German Marks) in 1982, that would equal 5000 Euro today, and I haven’t added the inflation rate of the 42 years since then.
    My IBM PS/2 Computer was even more expensive in 1988.
    So now that I’m retired I won’t think twice about buying it, not knowing how much time I have left to live in peace in the EU, I’m going to order the Vision Pro as soon as possible.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому

      I'm trying to convince my wife that I need one for this reason. Our house is too small, and my son is many, many years away from leaving. This makes the chances of me owning a decent home cinema setup, almost nonexistent. That said, I'm still determining if this would be the same experience.

  • @westmcgee9320
    @westmcgee9320 3 місяці тому +4

    I use mine daily and that included sometimes going outside with it to record a video of chasing my kids or playing a movie while walking back and forth doing light yard duties.
    Immersishare is a daily go-to, as well.

  • @theclown888
    @theclown888 4 місяці тому +6

    When I first heard of it, I couldn’t wait to buy one. I waited though for the reviews, and I think the cost is just too high to justify it right now. The only thing I’ve heard that might make it worth it is that recording video with the Vision Pro is better than trying to record video on the iPhone to watch on the Vision Pro later for the immersive effect.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 4 місяці тому

      That's because the 3D depth is weaker on the iPhone 15 Pro vs the Apple Vision Pro while recording 3D videos.

    • @peterbluesman
      @peterbluesman 2 місяці тому

      Some reviewers are saying the opposite

  • @petucker548
    @petucker548 4 місяці тому +6

    Good job. Too expensive for now but the possibilities are endless.

    • @APU658
      @APU658 3 місяці тому

      Wait in the next 5 years, there will be a cheaper version. I love my AVP. When I get of work every day I watch 3 hours of contents before going to bed at 9:30 pm. It is worth the money.

    • @koenignero
      @koenignero 2 місяці тому

      They sell on ebay for $2500 but watch the correct size

  • @momadness4938
    @momadness4938 4 місяці тому +2

    I did the demo when it launched. Very nice but I don’t think I’d use it enough for that price tag lol

  • @ttrotary7
    @ttrotary7 3 місяці тому +2

    "Personas are 92% there and slightly freaky...." LOL

  • @Fablebox
    @Fablebox 4 місяці тому +2

    More pros than cons. Two cons only. 1. A little too heavy. 2. Cost. However, how much would it cost me to build a theater room in my home? More than 3.5k. I think when the new IOS for Vision drops, it will be more worth it. The movie experience is insane!

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for sharing your experience. If you look at it as a TV it looks so overpriced. But if like you said, it is compared to a theater, it is hard to beat at the price. My brother in law spent far more for his home theater. The Vision Pro is still more immersive. Glad to hear you are enjoying yours.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому

      @@CraigsTechTalk@CraigsTechTalk The home cinema, though, can be enjoyed by others at the same time.

  • @WinLoveCry
    @WinLoveCry Місяць тому +1

    Looks interesting... love to try one

  • @TheLillianYoung
    @TheLillianYoung 4 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate your use cases. and positivity I use my AVP daily. Oh, and I too have accidentally recorded without audio :) A couple of notes: Disney+ has Hulu in the app. It's one now. You can also watch media like a movie with another AVP user. iPhone 5 spatial recordings are not recommended compared to just using the AVP or the rumored next gen iPhone.

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay 4 місяці тому +1

    Wait are you Elon Musk's brother? 🤔

  • @slayerdogg
    @slayerdogg День тому

    Apple's stock will probably double just on the potential of uses for this device.

  • @jokosalsa
    @jokosalsa 4 місяці тому +2

    Use my AVP everyday, loooooooove it. Great video

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  3 місяці тому

      Thank you. 🙏 I am glad to hear you are loving yours. Thanks for sharing and for watching

  • @Ma_Si_Yan
    @Ma_Si_Yan Місяць тому

    I could do 99.99% of everything you explained on a regular IPhone. I wouldn't drop 3 bands to just get a nice posture, bro I am not a big fan of any headsets in particular but but my brothers Oculus quest 2 can do everything you said but better !! Plus there are so many cool games. I mean no hate but it's just a cooler version of Iphones for rich kids that's all. Peace ✌️

  • @Patrick_1973
    @Patrick_1973 2 місяці тому

    I have bought and cancelled this 3 times..4th time it’s on its way..I will see what happens..

  • @Shroomy801
    @Shroomy801 Місяць тому

    I’ll wait for the ecosystem for it to develop more, then buy one.

  • @highlike1
    @highlike1 2 місяці тому +1

    Yes sure, great tool for notes 😂

  • @kings7man
    @kings7man 25 днів тому

    Why doesn’t this thing have 5g

  • @dreamtasterfpv2216
    @dreamtasterfpv2216 2 місяці тому

    Dji makes better goggles

  • @CNFCNF1
    @CNFCNF1 Місяць тому

    Tik tok live can ?

  • @RobButler1984
    @RobButler1984 Місяць тому

    Just used the Vision Pro for the first time at an Apple Store, the tightrope one was amazing... but horrible. I felt sick looking down which to me made me realize how realistic it is.

  • @philochristos
    @philochristos 4 місяці тому

    I can see how that could be useful and fun, but I'm not sure it worth the price.

  • @doug0365
    @doug0365 2 місяці тому

    It doesn’t matter how great the device is the biggest downside is that it’s not user friendly for multiple users and it’s crazy for Apple to think that people will spend multiple Vision Pros for their family members.

  • @cyberking2712
    @cyberking2712 4 місяці тому

    Theatre:
    This will be replacing my 27" 4k 60Hz monitor that I used as both a gaming monitor and a TV, using the in-built speakers.
    For gaming, I will be using screen mirroring with my MacBook, usually but not always paired with PS Remote Play.
    I anticipate that my £800 monitor set-up will be upgraded to something much more fitting of a £3'500 device.
    Native Gaming:
    I do not have an iPad, but if I had one, I would use it primarily for gaming. Instead of an iPad, I will be getting a Vision Pro for games that used to be most optimal on iPad.
    By not buying a 256GB M2 iPad, I am saving a starting price of £700.
    Productivity:
    This will be replacing my 13" M3 MacBook Air for that use case.
    The MacBook cost me £1'200.
    Programming:
    This will be enhancing my M3 MacBook Air for that use case (I bought the MacBook specifically for this pairing. My old Windows 10 laptop was unable to keep up with my programming needs).
    Browsing/Social Media/General Use:
    This will replace my iPhone 11 and M3 MacBook in some cases. When I am in bed (both morning and night), my MacBook will probably be more comfortable. When I am mobile, my iPhone will be more convenient. But the rest of the time, I am hoping that the Apple Vision Pro will merge my MacBook and iPhone into one device.
    The iPhone cost me £600.
    Cost:
    By purchasing the Apple Vision Pro, I am hoping to (almost) replace £2'500 worth of tech with superior, current generation versions, For £3'500. £2'500 to replace the old tech, and £1'400 to improve my current tech solutions. I will get the 1TB version (for absolutely no real reason), bumping the price up to £3'900.
    If my use-cases are significantly inferior to what I expect from them, I will probably consider returning it. I am just waiting for a UK release.

  • @defaultHandle1110
    @defaultHandle1110 3 місяці тому

    Just wait. An always on multimodal AI will be there to give you superhuman, sight, knowledge, sound, advice etc. it will be awesome. Nothing to be seen right now, but very soon.

  • @GeorgeTheIdiotINC
    @GeorgeTheIdiotINC 2 місяці тому

    personally the product can't justify the price tag yet. but I can see the potential for it more so, when Gen 3/4 comes out ill definitely be interested to see what it can do

  • @Epic_Squirrel
    @Epic_Squirrel 4 місяці тому

    I love mine! I have not used my MacBook Sense. I highly recommend anyone watching this video. If you haven’t gone into Apple go to the demo before you make any decisions. None of these videos on UA-cam give you the immersion experience. It’s something that you have to try first. It blows everything on the market out of the water. And yes, it’s worth every penny.

  • @chit2am
    @chit2am 3 місяці тому

    Would you buy the 256 or 512?

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  3 місяці тому +1

      I went with 256gb. I don’t overload my devices with apps and video/pics can offload to iCloud. I would put the extra storage money towards another device or accessory

  • @JulioSalim
    @JulioSalim 4 місяці тому

    Honestly there isn’t any reason that would me make even thinking about investing this massive amount of money to get these benefits. May be in the future, who knows…

  • @jsmu1234
    @jsmu1234 4 місяці тому

    wait for another year or two before better tech and price align.

  • @terrymulcahy4068
    @terrymulcahy4068 3 місяці тому

    So, no to my 75" Sony micro-LED TV and yes to the Vision Pro?

  • @AnEmperor-TheKingofTheKings
    @AnEmperor-TheKingofTheKings 2 місяці тому

    🎉Good Man Vision Man🎉

  • @anoyakashi8775
    @anoyakashi8775 3 місяці тому

    can’t afford to buy

  • @garethjones5068
    @garethjones5068 3 місяці тому

    Entrainment & productivity uses are the key to the potential success of Vision Pro, both of which are going to require that battery life to significantly improve in future generation’s of the device

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  3 місяці тому +1

      You are right on about that. It really needs to nail more of the productivity so people see it does more than just movies. The worse thing about the Vision Pro is the battery pack. It doesn’t last long enough and is annoying. The slippery battery and slightly too short cord is what keeps me from picking up the Vision Pro. With a built in battery, I think I would use it more.

  • @Dr_Cole
    @Dr_Cole 4 місяці тому

    The best reason for you to keep your AVP is so I can see that I do not currently need one. As I would buy it via my company, most likely, it needs to do something unique for my work environment. It does some things better, but most are just “different”.
    I will be curious to see what they create for the new VP OS 2.0. Better still, I’ll look forward to you reviewing it so I can make informed decisions. Thanks, Craig.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  4 місяці тому +1

      🤣 I love it. I get to help keep that money in your wallet. You are right there is more "different" than new. Like you I am curious what VP OS 2.0 brings. Hopefully good announcements at WWDC next month. I appreciate you watching the video and for all your support. 🙏 I hope I can bring you some good content on this. Have a great day Dr. Cole.

  • @williammartinez8381
    @williammartinez8381 4 місяці тому

    Hey Craig, like always a great informative video. Really enjoyed it and yes, I do agree with you as a replacement or an addition to a MacBook or an iPad the Vision Pro is a great addition to your workflow set up.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  4 місяці тому

      Thank you very much William. I hope you are doing well. I think that is the best way to look at the Vision Pro. If people look at it as just a VR or AR headset, it looks very expensive with no use.

  • @gordonrobb
    @gordonrobb 3 місяці тому

    I'm excited for the uk release next month. I just wish there was a way to use it as external display for iPad. I don't have a macbook.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  3 місяці тому +1

      I wish you could do the iPad too. It would be such a great feature. Glad to hear the UK will be seeing it soon.

  • @CanonPaulHamilton
    @CanonPaulHamilton 4 місяці тому

    Looks awesome but too many things that suggest it’s an entry level trial. Too expensive for me but perhaps in the future I’ll be tempted.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It is expensive and feels like a gen 1 product. The tough part is when will Apple update to a 2nd gen? Thanks for watching.

  • @andrepacheco6067
    @andrepacheco6067 4 місяці тому

    The only thing I would use this is solely to fly a drone other than that it's pretty useless.

    • @CraigsTechTalk
      @CraigsTechTalk  3 місяці тому

      It would be cool for drone flying. I would love to see an immersive drone experience

    • @andrepacheco6067
      @andrepacheco6067 3 місяці тому

      @@CraigsTechTalk You know it would be fantastic if Apple would consider either making its own drones or partnering with the dozens of drone makers in the US. But I would really would like to see them partnering with NASA to send one to Mars, imagine watching a view of Mars in real time as it flies around the terrain! Keeping my fingers crossed.

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay 4 місяці тому

    Mine makes an amazing doorstop! 😃

  • @mariannesuesli5680
    @mariannesuesli5680 4 місяці тому +2

    If those are the "practical" uses, there's no future for it, we'd better focus on industrial or medical uses

  • @brianhanington470
    @brianhanington470 3 місяці тому

    Love your style! Your candid thoughts have really opened my mind. Thanks.

  • @saintuk70
    @saintuk70 4 місяці тому +4

    It's very meh, and so expensive it makes no sense other than for those "philes" that think they need Apple. The battery pack is a joke.

    • @Tonabillity
      @Tonabillity 4 місяці тому +5

      Gimme a break, my relatives spend more on jewelry 🙄

    • @saintuk70
      @saintuk70 4 місяці тому

      @@Tonabillity was the most pointless comment ever...however.... they spend more, so do they have more money than you? So, you can't afford this Apple thingy?

    • @Tonabillity
      @Tonabillity 4 місяці тому +8

      @@saintuk70 My point is that everyone is complaining about how expensive AVP is, when people frequently spend much more on much less
      I even sell paintings for more than $3500, and they do nothing but hang on walls.
      I think that it’s futile to dictate how people should spend their OWN money 🧐
      It’s OK if you see it as pointless.
      It’s just ONE opinion from some random guy on the net.
      I’m NOT asking anyone to agree with me.
      Just stating a single point of view.
      Is that clear enough for you? 🤷🏾

    • @Symbiotix_Gamer
      @Symbiotix_Gamer 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Tonabillity Totally agree people are concerned on how others spend their money...this device could be 10k and its no ones business if you choose to spend that much .. 🤷🏾‍♂

    • @Tonabillity
      @Tonabillity 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Symbiotix_Gamer Exactly.
      Besides, why are fandroids on Apple threads in the first place??
      That is so weird.🤔
      It wouldn’t even occur to me to go out of my way to lurk on android threads, to complain about products that I don’t even use.
      That never made ANY sense to me 🤷🏾

  • @Shotzzilla
    @Shotzzilla 3 місяці тому +1

    The quest 3 can do all those movie watching features you mentioned the difference is you can inv others to watch unlike the AVP…. Quest 3 is way better and $3000 cheaper….

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому

      It's cheaper, and apps exist to make it a good media experience, but it is not better. That being said, the AVP is not 7 times better.

  • @DuneCatalog
    @DuneCatalog 2 місяці тому

    not worth it for 4k usd!!!!