No, these fucking websites needs to start banning bots and limiting pre orders. Scalpers and botters if they keep this up they won’t have any buyers buying it. I have a feeling the market is going to pop very soon. When you have consumers who can’t buy them how are scalpers and botters going to sell them? Also all these sites needs to start limiting orders 2-5 per account or household. This is getting ridiculous. All this does is push even more people away from the hobby when you can’t fucking buy them for your kids or whoever.
@ I agree if they do the account to limit per address it would solve everything because everybody can just create a new email, but if they limit per address a specific amount it’ll have to be a larger amount obviously cause sometimes you have families of four or five that might all Collect but I think that’s the best way to do it but the problem is these businesses. Don’t wanna spend any time on anything because they don’t care as long as we’re buying it unfortunately that’s the sad truth but it’s gonna end up popping eventually similar to how it did in 2021. It just depends on if Pokémon decides toramp up manufacturing somehow again or not that’s gonna be the determining factor I think
Yeah, the problem is like I said the video the companies don’t care about that …all they care about is selling the product. Bottom line as terrible as it sounds.
they tried last drop of surging sparks pc etb , the whole site crashed a couple of time and bot where still able to buy all the stock despite the limit
This makes me worried that the secondary market will become the only market? So like Pokemon will just be selling to bots, who then resell them to us at an increased price? Feels like a small scale dystopia haha
@@StuartGCCowan yeah the only thing that I could think of is that if Pokémon decides to figure out a way to pump out more product than they already are, which would be a lot because they’re pumping out a ton of product right now. But if they do that and people just wait to get drops at local game stores or, big box stores in store all these bots and people buying like crazy are gonna get stuck with the product and eventually gonna have to drop their prices like what we saw in 2021 when there was more supply than demand. And it will happen again eventually it’s just a matter of when and how long it’ll take to get to that point again.
I don’t think these scalpers and botters understand when they keep hoarding it just pushes more people away from the hobby. They can’t sell if you have no one to buy them right? The secondary market needs consumers if there’s no consumers there’s no secondary market.
I think your best on release week, but they’ll probably drop a couple more before then would recommend just keeping an eye on the discord and also potentially joining on rattles discord too
@@brenben10 that’s what I have been telling my locals as well. The good thing is at least in my local area. There’s probably 20 different game stores within a 25 minute radius so there should be enough product and most of the stores typically do not price up super super high but because a lot of flippers are gonna try to go buy stores that are cheap. They might actually actually require people to open it in store or they’re gonna charge the higher price whatever the market is at.
Thanks for the speech, I will use this time to catch up on other ETB, UPC, and ex premium boxes I still don’t have, and when the time comes I can get prismatic and blooming waters if and when they come back! Thanks man! 😎
They need to either add another layer of authentication for anti-bot or make preorders only in person. For the target ETB, I clicked on notification when it came up on my phone and it was already sold out for brilliant stars. I somehow got 3 lost origins ETB and 6 silver tempest but this is just ridiculous.
This is a crazy time! I already have a prismatic pre-order with Gamestop, so now I am buying singles to complete my CZ master set. The singles, along with assorted mystery packs, are keeping me satisfied. I have to stay away from live auctions, though. They are dangerous.
Tried getting the evolving sky Elite Trainer box missed my chance. Went too target to grab one and the scalpers were nasty as hell. They were threatening people harm if they touched what they were wanting and the store staff wouldn't stop them. They need to limit what those pos's can get.
Personal experience yesterday for Target ETBs yesterday....i got there mins after the vendor set up the ETB display...1 person had already taken ALL the ETBs, placed them on top of a toy display waiting on their partner to come with the shopping cart. I came around and asked if I could have 1 of each, (there was no Lost Origin set out.) That's it. 2 customers got what was set. The other person got maybe 3-4 each of the other titles. That is all my Target was allocated. Atleast for the initial set up....don't know if they will restock.
Yeah, I figured those target sales were gonna be a disaster considering the state of things unfortunately hopefully you’ll be able to find some of these boxes somehow in the wild
whats insane is prismatic etbs are going for near 100$ and we are not even in december yet. who knows what they will be when parrents start preordering them for their kids christmas
Having to get lucky in a 5 minute window to buy something makes it completely not fun anymore. Even 151 was available before and after release, easily, from places like best buy. Retrospectively I understand why old cards sell out quickly but newer or even unreleased sets should be widely available at least for a few months. Pokemon cards are now just an investment market for most of the people buying cards.
Yes, it was exactly the same way at the end of 2020 and 2021 and one thing that I try to preach to people is if it’s frustrating just take a step back maybe look at some singles you wanna pick up instead of looking at seal product and then just get the seal product whenever the storm calms down because inevitably the storm and hype always comes back down at some point and you can find yourself a good entry point on some of these products that will eventually be reprinted, and I fully believe the prismatic is going to have so much printed I realistically think there’s gonna be more prismatic printed over the next two years and 151 and surging sparks combine because of the staggered schedule in the same way they did with Crown.
im glad i decided to go to school and stop collecting and sell everything i have. I plan to get back into it , but its to expensive and now hard to even get product..
Fun fact 🤓 games stop stores were taking in person preorders for prismatic evolutions. Window was open for a week. I went to various stores to place preorders just in case I get a few cancelled 🥴
Hey Chris been watching you for a couple weeks now, mostly the livestreams, but I just wanted to say you are putting out great stuff. I just got into the hobby in the middle of October and holy cow has it been overwhelming. I thought I knew what crazy hobby drops were like when stuff sold out in a couple hours but this prismatic stuff is ridiculous. I'm ngl I'm a little disheartened with how hard it is to get any of the new stuff and to get anything 151 without paying with my kidneys lol. I'm really just hoping to get a few boxes of blooming waters at MSRP. Prismatic is a new set so I'm not as pressed about it because I know it will be here for a while but I just again wanted to say thanks for helping calm the nerves and keep up the good work!
@@sgt.snake0177 I really appreciate that and I’m glad you enjoy the content as well. I’m hoping they print enough of that blooming waters product to go around that’s for sure.
I had to pre- order the Elite Trainer Box of prismatic evolutions from a small card shop in Austria (I'm from Germany) because of the ridiculous prices German sellers wanted.
I have a question unrelated to your topic, but I’m curious what you think I purchased the stamp box cards in a PSA 10. They move a little in their cases. Is that typical, or is it cause for alarm? …like maybe they were trimmed.
Yup. English Pokémon card buying is crazy right now. I just go with Japanese and Korean Cards now. Idc bout investing. I just want the card. It's cheaper and I dont have to have a bot to even get product. Hopefully the TPCI pumps up production.
I can confidently say you won’t find this in stores at msrp unless you watch them stock the shelf. Be realistic this will be the most scalped Pokémon product ever made.
I was so hyped for prismatic evolutions but can't buy anything anywhere! I find this so incredibly sad. Those bots/scalpers are really ruining the hobby 😔
Web sites will never stop the bots cuz the company’s don’t care 😂 Money is money and it’s and companies don’t care if a person check out or bots check out 🥴
Yeah, but even with the limits, it doesn’t matter because they can just set the bots to do multiple purchases from different IP’s basically because Best Buy still gets bought out almost instantly when they do pre-orders and everything go crazy
I recently got back into as well, i got 4 crown zenith tins and got some good pulls! amazon uk has some retail price products. I got the ETB as well, the stock of that has been going up and gone repeatdly the past week, so fomo hit me and i ordered it immediately when it was available. that hasn't arrived yet tho! So i'm hoping i get good hits.
We shouldn't stress too much.... These will be available in stores and they'll be on the shelves for a bit... 151 sat for a minute on Target shelves and my Targets are literally STOCKED with Surging Sparks right now and their distribution, especially in store, always seems to be good💯 I really think people are just over hyping this set WAAAAY too much... Let's just chill and remember, don't buy from POS scalpers✌🏻
@@rcdune7132 yeah I do think of there is definitely some overhyped and the problem is is right now when product disappears before peoples eyes it unfortunately makes people panic more, but I do think that while we might not see a correction at first, eventually it’ll even itself out and out all the scalpers and flippersjust like last time it comes in cycles
I’ve gone back to collecting vintage/ Japanese Pokémon cards after completing 18 Pokémon master sets total I’m officially burnt out with this hobby’s MADNESS .. hope everything settles down because it’s just ruining the fun of collecting IMO 👍🏼
I just want to get a set for my grandchildren My granddaughter has a birthday Jan 23, and prismatic evolutions is what she wants. It is crazy that people are using bots to grab large numbers of a children's card game?
@@chrispytcg I hope so. However, I live in a remote area with no access to the big box type stores that seem to carry the most of these, like Best Buy. My only hope is that one of only 2 small local game shops will get some allocated to them and that I am lucky enough to qualify to get buy one. Oh well, it is only a card game and she will survive if I don't get it. But it feels very frustrating to have to disappoint her because some people buy many boxes to hoard or to resell at unaffordable, inflated rates. *sigh*
These Japanese sellers are smoking the good good if they think ppl are actually gonna pay these ridiculous preorder prices. 600 for umbreon 200 for the other eveelutions and 400 for sylveon. I hope they print terrestal Festival into the ground.
Yea the Japanese prices will tank for sure. 3x the amount of shining treasures is gonna be printed of terastal festival. So I expect prices to go up on release weekend and regulate back down afterwards.
Don’t let the bad eggs ruin it for you. They’re still plenty of ways to collect and have fun without worrying about the dregs that make it tough sometimes.
you cant buy in store cuz of resellers and cant buy online cuz of bots lol might just give up on this hobby cuz why would i pay 3x retail for a brand new item lol so dumb
There is still ways to obtain the items. The bots won’t always be relevant and unfortunately, there’s just times where we have to not try to collect the newest thing but go back and collect other things that we have wanted that are not being targeted by the hype
@@chrispytcg this! I just recently got back into and was like WOW surging sparks dove right in not knowing pull rates or anything. Now I find myself enjoying crown zenith way more.
Have you been lucky enough to get In Any pre orders!?
No, these fucking websites needs to start banning bots and limiting pre orders. Scalpers and botters if they keep this up they won’t have any buyers buying it. I have a feeling the market is going to pop very soon. When you have consumers who can’t buy them how are scalpers and botters going to sell them?
Also all these sites needs to start limiting orders 2-5 per account or household. This is getting ridiculous. All this does is push even more people away from the hobby when you can’t fucking buy them for your kids or whoever.
@ I agree if they do the account to limit per address it would solve everything because everybody can just create a new email, but if they limit per address a specific amount it’ll have to be a larger amount obviously cause sometimes you have families of four or five that might all Collect but I think that’s the best way to do it but the problem is these businesses. Don’t wanna spend any time on anything because they don’t care as long as we’re buying it unfortunately that’s the sad truth but it’s gonna end up popping eventually similar to how it did in 2021. It just depends on if Pokémon decides toramp up manufacturing somehow again or not that’s gonna be the determining factor I think
@@chrispytcg yes I beat the bots and was able to snag 1 PE etb from target 💪
@ heck yea congrats!
I've been in that group for a week now and it's WILD! No WAY any HUMAN could click fast enough...
Again, these sites need to add a Anti-Bot checker onto their sites... make them select actual pictures and add real information
Yeah, the problem is like I said the video the companies don’t care about that …all they care about is selling the product. Bottom line as terrible as it sounds.
@chrispytcg yeah that's the bad side of big companies controlling the market
they tried last drop of surging sparks pc etb , the whole site crashed a couple of time and bot where still able to buy all the stock despite the limit
They dont care who buys it. They would rather ship bulk to 1 person if possible. Same with event tickets.
@@Plexus37 sadly
This makes me worried that the secondary market will become the only market? So like Pokemon will just be selling to bots, who then resell them to us at an increased price? Feels like a small scale dystopia haha
@@StuartGCCowan yeah the only thing that I could think of is that if Pokémon decides to figure out a way to pump out more product than they already are, which would be a lot because they’re pumping out a ton of product right now. But if they do that and people just wait to get drops at local game stores or, big box stores in store all these bots and people buying like crazy are gonna get stuck with the product and eventually gonna have to drop their prices like what we saw in 2021 when there was more supply than demand. And it will happen again eventually it’s just a matter of when and how long it’ll take to get to that point again.
I don’t think these scalpers and botters understand when they keep hoarding it just pushes more people away from the hobby. They can’t sell if you have no one to buy them right? The secondary market needs consumers if there’s no consumers there’s no secondary market.
@chrispytcg This is when we come in and buy the drop priced items. They take a loss, we take a gain, and they get hit with karma
If pokemon raised the price, then bots wouldn't buy it.
@@gyroninjamodder its not as simple as that, in fact, it wouldn't do anything but raise prices for consumers.
I trust you im just scared I won't be able to get a pokemon center etb of prismatic Evolution im really hoping i can😅
I think your best on release week, but they’ll probably drop a couple more before then would recommend just keeping an eye on the discord and also potentially joining on rattles discord too
@chrispytcg ok will do thank you
Won't they be in stores?
I would love to get one of these also. But I would settle for a regular ETB, if I am able to find one. Fingers crossed!
great meeting you today at the card shop! Thanks for the great conversation and advice. Keep up the great work with the content!
@@Adroldero thank you so much man. Was so nice to meet you 🙌
I frequent a barnes and noble and their stock always lasts at least a week. try out the stores you wouldn't usually think of!
@@brenben10 that’s what I have been telling my locals as well. The good thing is at least in my local area. There’s probably 20 different game stores within a 25 minute radius so there should be enough product and most of the stores typically do not price up super super high but because a lot of flippers are gonna try to go buy stores that are cheap. They might actually actually require people to open it in store or they’re gonna charge the higher price whatever the market is at.
That is interesting....didn't realize BnN carries that much Pokemon other that the plushies and other stuff.
Thanks for the speech, I will use this time to catch up on other ETB, UPC, and ex premium boxes I still don’t have, and when the time comes I can get prismatic and blooming waters if and when they come back! Thanks man! 😎
They need to either add another layer of authentication for anti-bot or make preorders only in person.
For the target ETB, I clicked on notification when it came up on my phone and it was already sold out for brilliant stars.
I somehow got 3 lost origins ETB and 6 silver tempest but this is just ridiculous.
This is a crazy time! I already have a prismatic pre-order with Gamestop, so now I am buying singles to complete my CZ master set. The singles, along with assorted mystery packs, are keeping me satisfied. I have to stay away from live auctions, though. They are dangerous.
Not any preorders just getting whatever I can in store!
Finally found some Azurite at Target
We appreciate you and all your work you do keeping us informed!!!
Tried getting the evolving sky Elite Trainer box missed my chance. Went too target to grab one and the scalpers were nasty as hell. They were threatening people harm if they touched what they were wanting and the store staff wouldn't stop them. They need to limit what those pos's can get.
Personal experience yesterday for Target ETBs yesterday....i got there mins after the vendor set up the ETB display...1 person had already taken ALL the ETBs, placed them on top of a toy display waiting on their partner to come with the shopping cart. I came around and asked if I could have 1 of each, (there was no Lost Origin set out.) That's it. 2 customers got what was set. The other person got maybe 3-4 each of the other titles. That is all my Target was allocated. Atleast for the initial set up....don't know if they will restock.
Yeah, I figured those target sales were gonna be a disaster considering the state of things unfortunately hopefully you’ll be able to find some of these boxes somehow in the wild
whats insane is prismatic etbs are going for near 100$ and we are not even in december yet. who knows what they will be when parrents start preordering them for their kids christmas
Love the iron valiant!
I saw the 151 ETB available and it was immediately sold out at 2 am
I haven't seen any Blooming Waters preorders yet in Canada.
Ive literally moved to buying singles, between pull rates and scalping etbs, its just not worth it anymore.
Having to get lucky in a 5 minute window to buy something makes it completely not fun anymore. Even 151 was available before and after release, easily, from places like best buy. Retrospectively I understand why old cards sell out quickly but newer or even unreleased sets should be widely available at least for a few months. Pokemon cards are now just an investment market for most of the people buying cards.
Yes, it was exactly the same way at the end of 2020 and 2021 and one thing that I try to preach to people is if it’s frustrating just take a step back maybe look at some singles you wanna pick up instead of looking at seal product and then just get the seal product whenever the storm calms down because inevitably the storm and hype always comes back down at some point and you can find yourself a good entry point on some of these products that will eventually be reprinted, and I fully believe the prismatic is going to have so much printed I realistically think there’s gonna be more prismatic printed over the next two years and 151 and surging sparks combine because of the staggered schedule in the same way they did with Crown.
New sub. Here in Australia, one of our biggest stores/warehouses (gameology) has SS etbs for 194 aud. 🤦.
Holy smokes
Im in Canada. If i ordered from walmart in the us could i get hit with some fees that wouldnt make it worth?
How do we become a part of the discord you showed at the start of the video? To get alerts for when product hits online shops.
@@allenlin3050 check out rattle pokemon on UA-cam and his discord is in all of his videos ☺️.
Only way to stop the bots is to do mandatory in store preorders.
I went to my local Target today and they didnt even have the displays out and nothing in the back lmao. Sometime this week they said
im glad i decided to go to school and stop collecting and sell everything i have. I plan to get back into it , but its to expensive and now hard to even get product..
@@RyanZiessler yea it’s deff a tough spot right nowb
Imagine if you held everything it would be worth more now 😢
Fun fact 🤓 games stop stores were taking in person preorders for prismatic evolutions. Window was open for a week. I went to various stores to place preorders just in case I get a few cancelled 🥴
Just say you took as much as u can to invest lol
@@justanothercollector43 lol 😂
I have not gotten any pre-orders in because everytime they are sold out
Hey Chris been watching you for a couple weeks now, mostly the livestreams, but I just wanted to say you are putting out great stuff. I just got into the hobby in the middle of October and holy cow has it been overwhelming. I thought I knew what crazy hobby drops were like when stuff sold out in a couple hours but this prismatic stuff is ridiculous. I'm ngl I'm a little disheartened with how hard it is to get any of the new stuff and to get anything 151 without paying with my kidneys lol. I'm really just hoping to get a few boxes of blooming waters at MSRP. Prismatic is a new set so I'm not as pressed about it because I know it will be here for a while but I just again wanted to say thanks for helping calm the nerves and keep up the good work!
@@sgt.snake0177 I really appreciate that and I’m glad you enjoy the content as well. I’m hoping they print enough of that blooming waters product to go around that’s for sure.
I had to pre- order the Elite Trainer Box of prismatic evolutions from a small card shop in Austria (I'm from Germany) because of the ridiculous prices German sellers wanted.
I have a question unrelated to your topic, but I’m curious what you think I purchased the stamp box cards in a PSA 10. They move a little in their cases. Is that typical, or is it cause for alarm? …like maybe they were trimmed.
No, some cards are loose inside the slab some aren’t it varies
@@chrispytcg thank you for taking the time to answer. I was genuinely concerned
Yup. English Pokémon card buying is crazy right now. I just go with Japanese and Korean Cards now. Idc bout investing. I just want the card. It's cheaper and I dont have to have a bot to even get product. Hopefully the TPCI pumps up production.
I can confidently say you won’t find this in stores at msrp unless you watch them stock the shelf. Be realistic this will be the most scalped Pokémon product ever made.
We have been thru this before with champions pack and shining fates. It will eventually correct. Just might take longer
I do feel some comfort in the fact that im not alone in this craze.
I was so hyped for prismatic evolutions but can't buy anything anywhere! I find this so incredibly sad. Those bots/scalpers are really ruining the hobby 😔
Just keep your eyes peeled and I’ll make updates as soon as I can about the state of online ordering or if there’s a way to get product easier
@ Thank you Chris! ❤️🙏
Web sites will never stop the bots cuz the company’s don’t care 😂 Money is money and it’s and companies don’t care if a person check out or bots check out 🥴
@@manithecomiccollector6361 yup. That’s what I said almost word for word In The video.
@ jinks you own me a coke 😂
Been doing it against me with Supreme for 5+ years...ultimately i gave up on trying to get s box logo. But, dont forget about the employees ;)
All shops need to do limit buys per order
They should just do what best buy does, limit online orders
Yeah, but even with the limits, it doesn’t matter because they can just set the bots to do multiple purchases from different IP’s basically because Best Buy still gets bought out almost instantly when they do pre-orders and everything go crazy
I’m pretty satisfied with the five cases I got for Prismatic. Crazy how expensive they are even with Target and Walmart
@@Uncrowned_King_Benz yea it’s getting wild right now
@ Forge and Fire and EBay are selling a regular ETB case for $960
Man, I just want Crown Zenith😂 I hate when I started collecting again on the wrong year full of scalpers again
I recently got back into as well, i got 4 crown zenith tins and got some good pulls! amazon uk has some retail price products. I got the ETB as well, the stock of that has been going up and gone repeatdly the past week, so fomo hit me and i ordered it immediately when it was available. that hasn't arrived yet tho! So i'm hoping i get good hits.
I got lucky with the pokemon center etb’s and the mystery chests 😮💨
We shouldn't stress too much.... These will be available in stores and they'll be on the shelves for a bit... 151 sat for a minute on Target shelves and my Targets are literally STOCKED with Surging Sparks right now and their distribution, especially in store, always seems to be good💯 I really think people are just over hyping this set WAAAAY too much... Let's just chill and remember, don't buy from POS scalpers✌🏻
@@rcdune7132 yeah I do think of there is definitely some overhyped and the problem is is right now when product disappears before peoples eyes it unfortunately makes people panic more, but I do think that while we might not see a correction at first, eventually it’ll even itself out and out all the scalpers and flippersjust like last time it comes in cycles
I’ve gone back to collecting vintage/ Japanese Pokémon cards after completing 18 Pokémon master sets total I’m officially burnt out with this hobby’s MADNESS .. hope everything settles down because it’s just ruining the fun of collecting IMO 👍🏼
I just want to get a set for my grandchildren
My granddaughter has a birthday Jan 23, and prismatic evolutions is what she wants. It is crazy that people are using bots to grab large numbers of a children's card game?
@@7Dorie I think on release week you will be able to find at least one out at stores or local game store
@@chrispytcg I hope so. However, I live in a remote area with no access to the big box type stores that seem to carry the most of these, like Best Buy. My only hope is that one of only 2 small local game shops will get some allocated to them and that I am lucky enough to qualify to get buy one. Oh well, it is only a card game and she will survive if I don't get it. But it feels very frustrating to have to disappoint her because some people buy many boxes to hoard or to resell at unaffordable, inflated rates. *sigh*
My son pulled a Latios ex on his 2nd pack🎉🎉
Bro i cant find them tins
These Japanese sellers are smoking the good good if they think ppl are actually gonna pay these ridiculous preorder prices. 600 for umbreon 200 for the other eveelutions and 400 for sylveon. I hope they print terrestal Festival into the ground.
Yea the Japanese prices will tank for sure. 3x the amount of shining treasures is gonna be printed of terastal festival. So I expect prices to go up on release weekend and regulate back down afterwards.
This is why I quit collecting Pokémon cards, most these people ruin the fun for the rest of us
Don’t let the bad eggs ruin it for you. They’re still plenty of ways to collect and have fun without worrying about the dregs that make it tough sometimes.
That's insane. Bot's are winning the online purchase battle.
The world has gone mad 🤯🤯🤯
its because of these discords twitter and alert sites you will not be getting any more exclusive items. Good luck lol
I know someone that has 80 etbs pre ordered hmm
@@georgeallen4007 that’s a solid number
I have no problems here
@@Zardsy lucky you 🙌
Anyone got the discord for the one he was showing in the beginning of the video
@@bx3crew458 if you go to rattle pokemon you’re page there’s a link in all his videos.
@@chrispytcg thank you I appreciate it
@ yes sir! His UA-cam channel link is in the video discription
Don’t get frustrated
you cant buy in store cuz of resellers and cant buy online cuz of bots lol might just give up on this hobby cuz why would i pay 3x retail for a brand new item lol so dumb
There is still ways to obtain the items. The bots won’t always be relevant and unfortunately, there’s just times where we have to not try to collect the newest thing but go back and collect other things that we have wanted that are not being targeted by the hype
@@chrispytcg this! I just recently got back into and was like WOW surging sparks dove right in not knowing pull rates or anything. Now I find myself enjoying crown zenith way more.
Gamepiece army unite 😂
I hope Pokémon prints these sets into the ground. Lol
@@matts8136 same
Might not be safe out there, but it always feels like home here! 🫶
Home is where you make it! 🙌🫶