Imagine if someone produced a miniseries as well-produced as HBOs, but with this level of accuracy and attention to detail. Probably wouldn't be as entertaining or meme-worthy, but I would watch the Hell out of it!
I doubt it; there are many many real stories both from the night of the disaster and the liquidation that would outshine the events of the miniseries, from people smashing windows and jumping out the building to being held at gunpoint, the chaos battling the flooding of the building, the fire mentioned in my last video, the chaotic cover up and how the government is implicated in that...
When the HBO series said the word "megatones" in regards to the core dropping into the suppression pools my blood boiled. I can't understand why they repeated this and who the idiot that first said it was. Its crazy. But a well believed myth. Legasov's quote shown in this video is on Tape 1 side B for those who want to find it.
the only rational explanation for doing so in that scene (and I would also expect another scene to explain this) would be if legasov were later to admit that the megatons thing was an absolute exaggeration calculated to ensure the central committee would do the responsible thing rather than just hoping for the best, which was their tendency. I.e he told them what they needed to hear, not the truth, and this being the cold war USSR, he could expect them to understand a megaton. however, without another scene explaining that, its just conjecture.
Yeah, basically if molten core were to enter the water, it would turn into radioactive steam, and maybe lead some unpredictable reactions. But nothing like stalker zone for half europe However, this does not mean that it was not a very responsible work
I always find the "It was absolutely clear that no explosion was possible" section of the legasov tapes staggering. Its as if legasov was speaking directly to the producers of the HBO miniseries, and they still completely ignored it. Now everyone thinks this multi megaton explosion was possible. What is the cost of lies again?
A debt to the truth! And the HBO series takes another step down towards pure fiction. This is a shame as they put all that work into production values with some of the greatest acting ever and yet totally disregarded facts if they could invent a fictional drama scene.
I've studied the accident somewhat. Finland got a fair amount fission products, and long restrictions on the consumption of berries, mushrooms, and reindeer meat. This all however was completely new for me, thank you.
Torille! Cs-137 is still pretty easily detectable in middle parts of Finland. At least I've seen it in mushrooms. Nothing here in Lapland tho. At least in my area.
@@OH8EFI A related funny story from 1993, my friend was working as an intern at the reactor and radiation lab of VTT, and a milk chocolate manufacturer had to submit a sample for mandatory screening in the lab's high sensitivity and resolution gamma measurement facility. The needed amount was less than 1 kg, what was delivered was a pallet (hundreds of kg). My friend had to call the company and ask if they really wanted to deliver all that. The answer was that the amount was the minimum they can deliver, and once out of their door they can't take it back. We students ate free chocolate for a long time.
Another excellent video full of good info. Despite the fact that I know they were contemplating using artilly(!) to blow a hole in the wall, still my brain was doing triple backflips when actually hearing you say it. "We need an entrance to x corridor fast. Is there a way to do this?" *Looks at the ruined building holding a melted down, but still very p*ssed off nuclear reactor "Oh, let's call the army, and just use one of their artilly canons to make it happen. I'm sure it will be fine." Only in the Soviet Union...🤦🏽
Well all things considered, there woud not be Hydrogen bomb like exsplosion, there would not be enouth thermal energy at once relased at one place, but that water would definetly started to boil quickly and spread even more contaminans around the place.
Thank you for all of your work, it is always a pleasure to watch these videos! There is a song called "Bogatyri" from the post rock band "we lost the sea", which is dedicated to them, i can highly recommend it
I had exposure to the radiation from Chernobyl when the US wanted to make a show of force in Germany. We were out marching in the rain consisting of the fallout from Chernobyl on May 1st 1986. The result is that I have a nodule on my thyroid as well as lesions on my head, neck and shoulders. The biopsy revealed that it is consistent with exposure to radiation. This happened in Regan’s peacetime Army. I’m being treated for it now. There are probably more people suffering from this same exposure. I was literally singing, “I’m a Radioactive” at the time. ☢️
I also wondered if the steam explosion was over rated if the core did reach the bubble pools. Depends on the mass fraction of what was left melting and dripping down like candle wax. Could you imagine if during a nuclear war that the place would be struck by several bombs and the additional fallout would have doomed the entire continent of Russia and most of the EU? Also the fact that the other reactors in the area would also be targeted. Just goes to show how Mutually Assured Destruction would be much much worse in a nuclear war.
I have a rookie question: can roentgen/h be roughly converted to 1/100 Sv/h (so 200 roentgen/h ≈ 2 Sv/h)? I'm trying to get a sense of the scale of the units, and while I think I somewhat understand Gray/rad (physical J/kg; CGS equivalent that is now 10 miligray) and Sievert/rem (Dosage converted to be more appropriate for chronic effect assessment; CGS equivalent that is now 10 mSv), converting between roentgen and energy per mass units seems harder. Since a rem is named as a roentgen equivalent (though it's not quite), I'm guessing I could just treat roentgen numbers like rems and convert to Sieverts that way - but this almost sounds too simple. Is this a justifiable way to convert roentgen/h measurements to Sv/h (or Gy/h?) to compare with other events?
The rem was 'refactored.' It no longer has anything to do with the Roentgen and is just 1% of a Sievert, period. 1 Gy = 1 Sv = 100 rem = 100 rads for whole body gamma radiation. For beta and alpha it gets weird, fast. Also, in the context of field dosimetry where the margin of error is well over 10%, everyone treats 100 Roentgen as equivalent to 1 Sv, too. But in actual fact there are various conversion factors that can be applied to more accurately translate Roentgen to Sv. Usually a Sv is regarded as 85-95% of a Roentgen (I forget the exact options here).
Watch the 3 part "How Chernobyl Exploded" videos that That Chernobyl Guy has already done and that pretty much shows how many were there and their relative positions at each stage. Spoiler: It was lots, lots more than featured in the HBO series. It even included someone who was supposed to be watching reactor caps bounce up and down before his world record breaking run.
Thanks for confirming that these were myths. In the first place the idea of an explosion of that magnitude should be obviously false, as a simple survey of lava-water interactions should tell anyone.
One of my favorite stories of Chernobyl, those men were willing to risk their lives to safe Europe. (didnt watch the video yet so just heard this is false?? lol guess ill find out)
Why? Isn't that now the correct PC term for the capital city? - However, this is a historical piece and so referring to what it was called at the time is entirely acceptable in my book as you shouldn't rewrite history.
Regardless of the spelling; it still ain't right. But I agree you shouldn't rewrite history. Even the author of these videos shines a light on the secrecy within the USSR. I think the synopsis of the events have changed over the years, and He tells a more accurate chain of events, and backs it up with more current research.
@@ChrisMatthewson No, only some really dumb journalists started saying 'Keev' as part of some collective delusion. The actual Ukrainian pronunciation sounds nothing like that, and very obviously has two syllables...
I must commend your work. Always easy to understand, no frills, and no silly excitement. How rare in today's times.
Running along a pipe suspended above a pool of radioactive water to reach a valve you need to open? It all sounds a bit Gordon Freeman.
Imagine if someone produced a miniseries as well-produced as HBOs, but with this level of accuracy and attention to detail. Probably wouldn't be as entertaining or meme-worthy, but I would watch the Hell out of it!
I doubt it; there are many many real stories both from the night of the disaster and the liquidation that would outshine the events of the miniseries, from people smashing windows and jumping out the building to being held at gunpoint, the chaos battling the flooding of the building, the fire mentioned in my last video, the chaotic cover up and how the government is implicated in that...
anytime some says "dont panic' you know someone is going to do do something stupid next.
Douglas Adams would disagree.
When the HBO series said the word "megatones" in regards to the core dropping into the suppression pools my blood boiled. I can't understand why they repeated this and who the idiot that first said it was. Its crazy. But a well believed myth. Legasov's quote shown in this video is on Tape 1 side B for those who want to find it.
the only rational explanation for doing so in that scene (and I would also expect another scene to explain this) would be if legasov were later to admit that the megatons thing was an absolute exaggeration calculated to ensure the central committee would do the responsible thing rather than just hoping for the best, which was their tendency. I.e he told them what they needed to hear, not the truth, and this being the cold war USSR, he could expect them to understand a megaton. however, without another scene explaining that, its just conjecture.
Thank you for dispelling the myth.
Yeah, basically if molten core were to enter the water, it would turn into radioactive steam, and maybe lead some unpredictable reactions. But nothing like stalker zone for half europe
However, this does not mean that it was not a very responsible work
I had a stroke trying to read this
The fuel DID enter the water. Nothing happened
@@MinSredMash corium pomice for garden decoration
I always find the "It was absolutely clear that no explosion was possible" section of the legasov tapes staggering. Its as if legasov was speaking directly to the producers of the HBO miniseries, and they still completely ignored it. Now everyone thinks this multi megaton explosion was possible. What is the cost of lies again?
A debt to the truth!
And the HBO series takes another step down towards pure fiction. This is a shame as they put all that work into production values with some of the greatest acting ever and yet totally disregarded facts if they could invent a fictional drama scene.
Thank you for the detailed research and background work🙏🏻
I've studied the accident somewhat. Finland got a fair amount fission products, and long restrictions on the consumption of berries, mushrooms, and reindeer meat. This all however was completely new for me, thank you.
Torille! Cs-137 is still pretty easily detectable in middle parts of Finland. At least I've seen it in mushrooms. Nothing here in Lapland tho. At least in my area.
@@OH8EFI A related funny story from 1993, my friend was working as an intern at the reactor and radiation lab of VTT, and a milk chocolate manufacturer had to submit a sample for mandatory screening in the lab's high sensitivity and resolution gamma measurement facility. The needed amount was less than 1 kg, what was delivered was a pallet (hundreds of kg). My friend had to call the company and ask if they really wanted to deliver all that. The answer was that the amount was the minimum they can deliver, and once out of their door they can't take it back. We students ate free chocolate for a long time.
The Chernobyl Divers: The Untold Story. Opening line, "We all know the story". hahaha. Great video as always, I just thought that was funny.
Another excellent video full of good info. Despite the fact that I know they were contemplating using artilly(!) to blow a hole in the wall, still my brain was doing triple backflips when actually hearing you say it. "We need an entrance to x corridor fast. Is there a way to do this?" *Looks at the ruined building holding a melted down, but still very p*ssed off nuclear reactor "Oh, let's call the army, and just use one of their artilly canons to make it happen. I'm sure it will be fine." Only in the Soviet Union...🤦🏽
Well all things considered, there woud not be Hydrogen bomb like exsplosion, there would not be enouth thermal energy at once relased at one place, but that water would definetly started to boil quickly and spread even more contaminans around the place.
I had never heard that they considered blowing a hole in the wall with artillery...lol.
Great Video !!!
What a great story, expertly told!
Off topic, but isn’t it insane how this power plant continued to run in an operational capacity until the year 2000??
21:45 which room is this?
Love your videos ❤
Fantastic, I'm so glad to hear that! I remember first hearing of these divers and their fate, and thinking how horrible it must have been.
Thank you for all of your work, it is always a pleasure to watch these videos!
There is a song called "Bogatyri" from the post rock band "we lost the sea", which is dedicated to them, i can highly recommend it
I had exposure to the radiation from Chernobyl when the US wanted to make a show of force in Germany. We were out marching in the rain consisting of the fallout from Chernobyl on May 1st 1986. The result is that I have a nodule on my thyroid as well as lesions on my head, neck and shoulders. The biopsy revealed that it is consistent with exposure to radiation. This happened in Regan’s peacetime Army. I’m being treated for it now. There are probably more people suffering from this same exposure. I was literally singing, “I’m a Radioactive” at the time. ☢️
You know how the myth buster's proved that running in the rain makes you wetter. They should do that for running in radiation rain.
I also wondered if the steam explosion was over rated if the core did reach the bubble pools. Depends on the mass fraction of what was left melting and dripping down like candle wax.
Could you imagine if during a nuclear war that the place would be struck by several bombs and the additional fallout would have doomed the entire continent of Russia and most of the EU? Also the fact that the other reactors in the area would also be targeted.
Just goes to show how Mutually Assured Destruction would be much much worse in a nuclear war.
Thank you.
I have a rookie question: can roentgen/h be roughly converted to 1/100 Sv/h (so 200 roentgen/h ≈ 2 Sv/h)?
I'm trying to get a sense of the scale of the units, and while I think I somewhat understand Gray/rad (physical J/kg; CGS equivalent that is now 10 miligray) and Sievert/rem (Dosage converted to be more appropriate for chronic effect assessment; CGS equivalent that is now 10 mSv), converting between roentgen and energy per mass units seems harder.
Since a rem is named as a roentgen equivalent (though it's not quite), I'm guessing I could just treat roentgen numbers like rems and convert to Sieverts that way - but this almost sounds too simple. Is this a justifiable way to convert roentgen/h measurements to Sv/h (or Gy/h?) to compare with other events?
The rem was 'refactored.' It no longer has anything to do with the Roentgen and is just 1% of a Sievert, period.
1 Gy = 1 Sv = 100 rem = 100 rads for whole body gamma radiation. For beta and alpha it gets weird, fast.
Also, in the context of field dosimetry where the margin of error is well over 10%, everyone treats 100 Roentgen as equivalent to 1 Sv, too. But in actual fact there are various conversion factors that can be applied to more accurately translate Roentgen to Sv. Usually a Sv is regarded as 85-95% of a Roentgen (I forget the exact options here).
@@MinSredMashThat makes more sense, thank you for your answer!
If I am not mistaken; the artillery they brought were a few ww2 era ISU152 self propelled guns.
Can you make a video of everyone that was in the reactor 4 room in moment of the explosion
Watch the 3 part "How Chernobyl Exploded" videos that That Chernobyl Guy has already done and that pretty much shows how many were there and their relative positions at each stage. Spoiler: It was lots, lots more than featured in the HBO series. It even included someone who was supposed to be watching reactor caps bounce up and down before his world record breaking run.
@@ChrisMatthewson i mean an only video about it
Thanks for confirming that these were myths. In the first place the idea of an explosion of that magnitude should be obviously false, as a simple survey of lava-water interactions should tell anyone.
How can I find the 'last episode' referenced in the end?
It's my most recent video - the Second Fire. It is the video that appears at the end of this one, or you can look at my uploads :)
Thank you 🙂
By the artillery, I think you meant the ISU-52
Can you do a chernobyl roof.Love your videos
I’ve thought that there could have been a huge explosion this whole time?😳
Oh no way, they made the r/forbiddensnacks version of rice crispies.
More input, Johnny #5 needs input.
boom one had decided to cease to exist like him dissapearing like david copperfield
Prequel!
I want to see the video Half Lives The Ghost of Tokaimura. Does the video contain gory photos?
If so, can you sum up their lives fairly quickly?
@@PunyTable5086 All of the injuries are blurred out, but in the Half Lives video, there are none.
@@thatchernobylguy2915 Thank you for your reply. If I've understood correctly, the concept of Half Lives is to tell the story of the victims' lives.
I'm asking this question because I'm interested in the Tokaimura incident but I don't want to see gory images.
@@thatchernobylguy2915I watch 4 episodes of the Ghost of Tokaimura. It is Perfect !
Early! I love this channel.
Megaton explosion nope lol
I can’t put a finger on your accent. What is it?
One of my favorite stories of Chernobyl, those men were willing to risk their lives to safe Europe. (didnt watch the video yet so just heard this is false?? lol guess ill find out)
They weren't "divers" per say,the water was only like ankle height
Per se*
@@jasonrichardson1999 Lol I know that part
10k views in one day... Chernobyl guy fell off fr... {PLEASE THIS IS A JOKE DON'T BLOCK ME DEAR GOD}
Great Channel but the Narrator sounds like he has a very bad cold
early !!!! very great
Thanks for not saying keev
Why? Isn't that now the correct PC term for the capital city? - However, this is a historical piece and so referring to what it was called at the time is entirely acceptable in my book as you shouldn't rewrite history.
Regardless of the spelling; it still ain't right. But I agree you shouldn't rewrite history. Even the author of these videos shines a light on the secrecy within the USSR. I think the synopsis of the events have changed over the years, and He tells a more accurate chain of events, and backs it up with more current research.
God, yes
@@ChrisMatthewson No, only some really dumb journalists started saying 'Keev' as part of some collective delusion. The actual Ukrainian pronunciation sounds nothing like that, and very obviously has two syllables...
@@MinSredMash Thank you for the correction. Some say it should now be pronounced something along the ligns of Kr-eev.