14 Songs That 'Rip Off' Classical Music
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
- Plagiarising somebody else's tune to write a hit single is usual a one-way ticket to a law suit. But when the tune you borrowed is in the public domain, for better or for worse, you can 'plagiarise' as much as you like!
0:00 Pachelbel’s Canon
3:43 Queen vs. Vesti La Giubba
4:36 Elvis Presley
7:06 Radiohead vs. Chopin
8:24 The Beatles vs. Moonlight Sonata
9:50 Whiter Shade of Pale vs. Bach
11:38 Minuet in G
13:00 Eric Carmen vs. Rachmaninoff
📍NOTE: I have edited out the section about Jimi Hendrix's music entering the public domain in 2040 as it has been brought to my attention that the current US copyright law is only applicable to works released after 1976. So Hendrix's music will actually enter the public domain closer to 2065.
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📍CORRECTION: 3:34 the 2nd to last chord of "Go West" should be ii7 not IV. They are of course very similar chords though (IV is contained within ii7).
Good save. Here's one for you: 'Russians' by Sting. All Prokofiev.
Actually "Go west" (originally by The Village People) was inspired by the National Hymn of the USSR. The melody of the hymn is almost the same but everything in double time.
@@kwancomics the National Hymn of the USSR is itself based on the Canon in D! ua-cam.com/video/qdSuzQKNmZg/v-deo.html
@@fabpc Conspiracy!
These 4 more come to mind.
Beethoven Sonata #13 (Pathetique), 2nd movement --- Billy Joel "This Night"
Sibelius Symphony #5, 3rd movement --- First Class "Beach Baby" (long vers)
Chopin Prelude in C minor --- Barry Manilow "Could It Be Magic"
Brahms Symphony #3, 3rd movement --- Santana "Love of my Life"
The moral:
Don't copy composers until after they sufficiently decompose.
"sufficiently decompose" is certainly an interesting way to put it 😂
LOL
Great band name "Composted Composers"
Best comment of the century
Bryan Hann underrated comment
Memories doesn't sound like canon in d, it IS Canon in D.
Yeah. I think he [Adam Levine] admit that tune of "Memories" was based on that Pachelbel's piece.
yeah but saying like basket case, for example, is a bit of a stretch imo
I love maroon 5 but the first time I heard memories, I immediately hated it cause all I hear is canon
@@devastator1212 Why? It's because you hate Pachelbel's Canon?
Lmao yeah I've played the intro hundreds of times when I was learning the piano I'm so sick of it now
At 75 now, I've heard SO many pop melodies that were based on classical pieces. It became 'a thing' for me to actively seek them out and collect them. I'll mention a few older favorites, from all over the map:
Lesley Gore - "Just Let Me Cry" (Song of India - Rimsky Korsakov)
Lou Christie - "Painter" (Un Bel Di - from Madama Butterfly)
Various - "Stranger In Paradise" - (Polovtsian Dances - Borodin)
Perry Como - "Til the End of Time" - (Polonaise in Abmi - Chopin)
Jackie Wilson - "Night" - ("Mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix" from Samson and Delilah by Camille Saint-Saëns)
Della Reese - "Don't You Know" - (from Puccini's La bohème)
Honorable mention: Georgia Gibbs + - "Kiss of Fire" - (not a classical piece, but a vintage tango, El Choclo)
...And so many more. Thanks for the opportunity to share some of the things my brain is crammed with - No one I've ever known was interested in this pop trivia.
If you were three years older you would remember this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Heart_Cries_for_You#References
(See my comment above from 2 years ago.) Guy Mitchell was already my favorite singer for 'Truly Fair' the same year, and Her Nibs Miss Gibbs also sang 'Dance with Me Henry' a bit later.. (Now I will search for the Red Foley version!)
"Various - "Stranger In Paradise" - (Polovtsian Dances - Borodin)"
That's got to be one of the most common ones played. Listening to Classic FM, I now think of it as Borodin's "Stranger in Paradise"....
Malpractice by Faith No More quotes Shostakovich's 8th String quartet.
Fascinating! Please share any more that are ruminating in your head.
You missed Sting’s “Russians” which uses music from Sergei Prokofiev’s “Lt. Kije” (both the solemn, Russian-sounding intro. and the light hearted sounding troika.😮Oops, Prokofiev died in 1953 and “Russians” came out in 1985.
Billy Joel used the second movement of Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata for the chorus of This Night. He was considerate enough to credit the composer on the jacket of his Innocent Man LP as "L.v. Beethoven."
To be expected. Billy Joel is a proper musician.
Louise Tucker’s “Midnight Blue” is completely based on that second movement of Sonata Pathetique by Beethoven as well.
It's not the best Billy Joel song, but probably the tune that runs through my head most often because of this fact.
Only 1600’s kids remember
Omg things were soooo much easier then... remember the nine years war? Queen liz was so much better than that scottish dude
Ugh those old bommerboomerboomerboomers
Also they had terrible food
ugh the good old days, when we could throw our feces out the window without being looked at like a freak.
#relatable
Probably 1400s
Moral of the story: if u release a fire track people will sample it even hundreds of years later
those were the days
Unless your legal team, your estate, and your record label share a quarter of a brain cell and sue everyone using your track. And possibly if not probably win thousands of dollars.
@@arfansthename after 100 years it’s fair game unless ur Disney
@@marktheshark5733 Mickey mouse public domain in 2023 or sth
@@arfansthename This has been in public domain for more than 300 years, no one can sue you for using it.
I put together a Pachelbel Canon list a few years ago. There may be more.
The Farm - All Together now
Aerosmith - Cryin'
Blues Traveller - Hook (which sort of sings about putting musical "hooks" like Pachelbel in songs)
One Tin Soldier - There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the Judgement Day:
Los Pop Tops - Oh Lord why Lord
Delirium - Paris
Village People - Go West (Though you can hear it better in the Pet Shop Boys version)
Maroon 5 - Memories
Vampire Weekend - Step
Aphrodite's Child - Rain And Tears
Green Day - Basket Case
Procol Harum - Sunday morning
Ralf McTell - Streets of London
Brian Eno - Fullness of the Wind (er, though this one is a variation on Canon)
First Class - Beach Baby
Percy Sledge - When a man loves a woman
Oasis - Don't look back in anger
Coolio - C U When U Get There
Vitamin C - Graduation
2 Pac - Life Goes on
Expo - This Night
Akon - Lonely
I used to do an open mike with friends in which we sang all the songs we could think of that used Pachelbel’s canon, included “She Will be Loved,” Maroon 5 “With or Without You” U2 “Shadows of the Day”… Linkin Park? I think? And, “Already Gone” Kelly Clarkson, “Halo” Beyoncé (both written by Ryan Tedder of OneRepublic), and, of course, “It’s Raining Tacos” by Perry Gripp
and so many more...
There are also many tunes by Tchaikovsky that were turned into songs:
1. "Night birds" by Shakatak.... Hamlet overture
2. "Vereda tropical" by Gonzalo Curiel.... Rose adagio of "The sleeping beauty"
3. "Fina estampa" by Chabuca Granda... Waltz of the flowers of "The nutcracker"
4. "Si la reina de España muriera" by Los embajadores criollos..... waltz of the String serenade.
5. "Starry night" by Glenn Miller..... First movement of the Sixth symphony
Etc.
I was so confused at #5 thinking that the 1st mvmt of Beethoven's 6th doesn't sound like the Glenn Miller. Then I realized you were talking about Tchaikovsky's 6th. XD
Rhapsody in the Rain by Lou Christie…Love Theme from Romeo and Juliet
I was playing cannon in D and my sister starts singing Maroon 5 and I'm like 0_o
I love your profile picture!!
she has a good ear
So, you're saying that your sister is a bro? Just kidding.
ew cannon in D, its overplayed go play something interesting.
Aoibh Tomany same!
So many people say they don't like classical music without ever knowing most music derives from classical.
Not really true. Traditional folk music (not that Dylan rubbish) precedes it.
I like classical music, and this is from someone who also likes rock music, most older cartoons like bugs bunny show used classical music, that's part of the reason I like it.
I mean, the chords and melodies might be similar and in some cases rip offs lol, but the feel of listening to violins, cellos, and flutes is kind of a lot different to listening to a beat with bass and guitar or a synth... they might be musicaly similar but how they feel to the listener, especially us, music illiterates, is VERY different
I’d say that you should replace the word “Classical” with “Blues”
@@man.i.literally.failed6772 me too some of its lile rock with different instruments because they didnt have the same guitars and stuff as us
I’m glad you included, ”All By Myself” by Eric Carmen in your list. It is my favorite example of classical music in a rock/pop song. My second favorite is “Could It Be Magic” by Barry Manilow.
I once re-edited a 2 minute section of the Rachmaninoff into the instrumental break - and played it on my radio show - no-one noticd :)
May I add: You're the Love of My Life, by Santana, taken from Brahms Symphony #3, Movement 3, Paul Simon's American Tune from Bach's O Sacred Head Now Wounded, which Bach borrowed from Hans Leo Hassler and, finally, Dan Fogelberg's Same Old Lang Syne, which, if you listen closely takes part of the melody from the 1812 Overture (some people can't hear it, but it is obvious to me). As a musician ,and teacher, I really appreciate your videos.
Same Old Lang Syne really takes the rhythm from the 1812. If people listen for the rhythm of the first line of each verse it's pretty obvious.
@@GrahamCLester 💯
Wait until someone sues an artist claiming they ripped off "their" rip off of a public domain song.
Disney does that all the time
wrinkleneckbass it kinda already happened, the band Spirt sued Led Zeppelin for Stair way to heaven and their case lost due to both of them being “inspired by” a song from the 17th century.
UA-cam basically
Quite similar with that tiktok background deadman. The remixer just put some beat and into to the original song (little adiantum) and he already claimed copyright over it
That’s what I was thinking about 😂
When people say they don’t like classical music 😂
It's because they don't know it.
burn
maybe they don't like classical instrumentation or song structure and prefer more pop/rock instrumentation/song structures
It’s hardly music you can sing to is it. It’s not really feel good.
It's almost like the melody is only one part of music.
Eric Carmen: "all by myself"
Sergei Rachmaninoff's estate: "well, not quite"
Disney's Sleeping Beauty movie just effectively put lyrics to Tchaikovsky's Sleeping Beauty waltz and titled it "Once Upon a Dream".
It’s nice that he actually goes in depth about the topic instead of making it a watchmojo style top 10 list
Indeed. I wouldn't watch him if it was from that channel.
Right!!!!!
Hate that channel
Can watchmojo make a simplified version of this video 70 years after this creator died?
I like that there's options.
The good thing is that Maroon 5 will never be able to sue someone who makes a similar song to Memories, or so I hope.
That's a good question... Will Maroon 5 be able to sue people if people also use this song.
As long as they say they based it from canon lol
I think it depends if Maroon 5 was able to copyright their version. Did they change it substantially and materially enough to allow for a copyright? I have no idea. I do know that nobody can use Maroon 5's recording without permission. Music has two copyrights. The first is the composition, anything that can be written down, lyrics, notes, etc. The second is each recording of the music. So don't use one of your albums on your video or you might owe the orchestra that made the album money.
I just hope no-one ever makes a similar song to Memories.
@@Silence-Dogood sadly, i think they can copyright their version because they added lyrics and removed some of the melody from canon to make it sound like pop.
As you say, Eric Carmen thought it was OK to use Rachmaninov’s piece for his ‘All By Myself’. He was surprised when the composer’s estate came knocking.
Eric Carmen was a fraud.
An interesting comment on the keyboard solo on Procol Harum's 'Turn the whiter shade of pale'. I thought it is a 'merging' of 2 Bach tunes; 'Air on a G string', and the accompaniment melody in 'Wachet Auf', (Sleepers' Wake). I think the player had learnt both tunes, and put 'bits and pieces' of each in his solo, but said, "I lost my way..." ... which remains most recognised ... from 10:40...
Im a classically trained musician. I hate"Memories", it drives me insane when the melody doesn't continue. It's like listening to Let It Go but only the "let it go" phrase.
Right? It sounds so unnatural and feels really blocky
That's exactly what it is. There's no progression in it. It's an incredibly bad and lazy bit of song writing, especially considered it's an homage to their late manager. I mean...put some effort into it at least.
Which Let It Go?
@@eliannadouglas3408 frozen
@@eliannadouglas3408 ua-cam.com/video/moSFlvxnbgk/v-deo.html
Chord progressions can’t be copyrighted, there’s a limited amount of chord progressions that sound nice and natural to our ears. Melodies on the other hand, are another story.
Badidea Bearcub lmao that’s exactly what I was thinking, you could sit at a piano and play a random chord progression and it would match at least one classical piece
Truth
Miley Cyrus is getting sued for chord progression copyrights
raul valencia link?
We need another evolution in music theory, I think. A new treatise and style would freshen things up a bit but would sound off to our ears for a bit
I have always regarded 'Surrender' and 'It's Now or Never' as straight adaptations of 'Torna a Surriento' and 'O Sole Mio'! 'Torna a Surriento' is my favorite Neapolitan song because 'Surrender' is my favorite Elvis song before the comeback!
And, of course, Barry Manilow's "Could This Be Magic' is basically a rhapsody on Chopin's great Prelude in C Minor, repeating it straight, adding an arrangement and lyrics; both versions are among my favorite pieces of music ever!
Thank you Chopin and whoever wrote those wonderful Neapolitan songs!
Actually, Canon in D is amazingly for me, a Fibonacci sequence of seemingly endless combination of songs. I might end up believing that every country have their songs which are actually Canon In D based chords. For example, in my country, Philippines, there are at least 25 Filipino songs which I discovered using Canon In D progression. Examples are AKIN KA NA LANG by Morisette Amon, KUNG MAWAWALA KA by Ogie ALcasid, LASON MONG HALIK by Katrina Velarde, NANGHIHINAYANG by Jeremiah, SA ISANG SULYAP MO by 143, I'LL KEEP ON LOVING YOU by Renz Verano, HULOG NG LANGIT by Donna Cruz, IKAW AT AKO by Moira Dela Torre and the long list goes on....
Sorry, I don't like Filipino food
@@dirt_dert_durt Not until you taste Pakbet and Sinigang.😁
@@drawdegalaxy9739 I like Jolibee, is that good enough?
@@danielhodson6411 welcome to my house bro.👊😎
Yep, you can stick the Canon chords under almost anything. Find and watch the "Pachelbel Rant" for some examples...
Copyright has expired..
Disney: hold my beer..
Which is ironic because: a) many of the big hit movies the studio was built on were adaptations of public domain stories: Cinderella, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, etc. and b) two of their big films ripped off other animated works which actually were still in copyright ("Aladdin" ripped off "The Thief and the the Cobbler" and The Lion King ripped off "Kimba: The White Lion"), but Disney is rich enough to scare people from trying to fight them in court.
@Leandro Diaz Reyes good luck
Deadmau5 sent a cease and desist to Disney for using one of his songs without permission. Disney honored it, probably because it wasn't in anything big just a small video.
I still angry at them about lion king being a rip-off after the creator died
*deer
And now I'm humming Canon in D instead of sleeping...
Savage Words HAHAHA
Same
In D hahahaha
Minuet is stuck in my head now.
Same.
I’d bet this has come up already (not sorting through 13k comments), but two jazz standards are also derived from Rachmaninoff’s Piano Concerto No. 2: “I Think of You” (1941?) and “Full Moon and Empty Arms” (1945). Interestingly, both were published while the original work was protected by copyright, even in the U.S. (“I Think of You” was apparently published while Rachmaninoff was still alive.)
While “I Think of You” is a bit obscure and certainly less recorded, “Full Moon and Empty Arms” has been recorded by probably a half dozen or more big artists. I wonder if the songwriters encountered any legal troubles from Rachmaninoff’s estate.
Great video! Another one from Rachmaninov’s 2nd piano concerto: Muse - Space Dementia at the end of the chorus “and tear us apart, and make us meaningless again”
A moment of appreciation here, the effort and amount of labour that went into making this video is so nice for the receiving end. Watched it twice since I love references in (modern) music but this segment broadened that horizon quite a bit. Thank you.
That really means a lot. These videos take AGEEEESSSS To finish so I'm very thankful for the appreciation!
Big love and God Bless Dave!
I just would like to add that it doesn't any ads yet. So....
To be fair, classical composers often took folk melodies as a starting point.
They did way worse than that. But so long as the folk songs were of anonymous (lost) composition, I guess it's ok. It's actually a pretty good way of making sure said folk song does not disappear throughout the ages, as I'm sure were the case of many folk songs we'll never have the privilege of listening to.
You bet.
@@skzion2 Why say worse? You may as well replace the word with better, and it would make little difference.The more accurate word would be more, they did more than just use folk melodies as a starting point. There is nothing better or worse about it.
@@fordhouse8b yeah, it's not like carolan is going to arise from the dead to sue a romantic composer for copyright.
The very late 18th and even more so through the 19th century, in Eastern Europe in particular, where you had intellectuals of the "Left" who were 'Nationalists' [Usually because they were fighting a class war with an old Aristocracy that was 'Foreign'] Not only were classical composers like R .Wagner and others around the same time frame, influenced by folk, they started to contrive freshly made scales for their respective Nations that were used by folk artists and classical composers alike. Django Reinhardt sounding scales, from Hungary and Romania for example, where you get that very Eastern flavour, a Romantic "Gypsie" sound like you here in Francis Ford Coppola's "Dracula" soundtrack. Imagine a Minor Aeolian scale but, with an augmented fourth note [Tritone], you get a cool sound playing the intervals very close together around the Fifth. I love it, sounds great.
Hello, how can I get access to this version of the Canon in D score?
Thank you, great video btw.
Brazilian pianist Antônio Carlos Jobim has a beautiful “version” of Chopin’s prelude! It’s called “insensatez”. I love your videos!👏👏👏👏👏
moral:
classical musicians were the first rockstars
i honestly don’t get why this comment got so many likes😅
Actually, moral:
Rockstars are mostly untalented.
Actually, moral:
Liszt wrote everything before people realised it
Only in your twisted modern notion of what is good music would you compare classical composers to rock stars.
Herrick Inman I compare rockstars to degenerate versions of classical composers
Moral:
Rock/Pop stars have no talent.
Queen was straightforward about adapting classical music to rock. Even freddie said that he wanted to bring the ballet to the mases or something simmilar
Wasn't it opera to the masses?
@@bababooey6193 No, he made a statement in an interview that he wanted to bring ballet to the masses. Drunk Sid Vicious(Sex Pistols) annoyed him when they were recording in the same studio, asking: "So have you succeeded bringing ballet to the masses yet?". Freddie called him "Simon Ferocious" and threw him out of the studio.
In the end he certainly brought opera to the masses when he worked on the Barcelona album with Montserrat Caballé.
Freddie considered the second part of Bohemian Rhapsody-“I see a little silhouette of a man …”-to be the “opera part”.
@Bertram Winkle that's got nothing to do with Freddie's statement to Sid
Interesting video, and some really good examples. I like the way you have delved into it to take examples from every aspect. I love the fact that modern music does find itself being based on classic so often. I think Carmen's 'All by Myself' sums it up. He got a fair deal, but he also created a beautiful song that is very different in everything it does from the very beautiful and famous Rachmaninov piece ... and I am saying this as a big Rachmaninov fan. There is room in this world for both!
And the "All By Myself" chorus apparently came from a Raspberries song, which was okay since Carmen was a member of the Raspberries.
A newer example that plays on this premise is “Feel my Rhythm” by kpop group Red Velvet. Their song opens immediately with the baroque tuning of Air on the G String by Bach
It took me so long to convince people of the similarities of Memories/Canon. Had me feeling like I was insane 😂
Have you seen this arrangement of Memories? It actually morphs into Canon at the end, and is stunningly beautiful.
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How? It's so obvious!
lmao how... it's the first thing i noticed when i listen to memories
@@davee6878 it’s enough to make a grown man cry
@@acbwest 🤣🤣🤣
Modern Music : Can I copy your homework?
Classical Music : Sure, Just change a few things so it's not obvious.
Best comment.
its strange how accurate this is
Daisy Illicit so what, I call it a piece of art.
Except they didn’t say “sure”
No Hate Here, my reply to ur reply is the opposite of ur user.
In concert, Dan Fogelberg introduced his song “Same Auld Lang Syne” by saying it was inspired by Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture. The melody is very close, and made me appreciate both works even more.
Open question? Please, does anyone know what the superb music software that David uses to show the clear melody and chords with? Thanks!
Pop musicians when they classical music: *•It’s free real estate•*
I too classical my music
ScrubKid
That...that’s essentially the joke.
ScrubKid
I assure you using nouns and adjectives as verbs is often used a form of cheap humor to emit a more juvenile tone. It’s not even new, literature has done this for centuries. Why’re so pedantic?
ScrubKid
I respect your interpretation, but I reckon there’s enough real estate to say otherwise ( ✧≖ ͜ʖ≖)
ScrubKid
Is a high school vocabulary really perplexing?
Pop: Hey, Classical! Can I copy your homework?
Classical: Sure! Just change it a little.
u53mn
LOL!
I remember my parents repeating a commercial, "No more rice crispies! We've run out of rice crispies!" to the opera tune that Mercury used. Note: many of these composers that ripped of "classical" music (perhaps more correct would be "chamber" music) were also trained in the classics, so they were quite familiar with these works. Funny, quoting another's work in Jazz is almost encouraged, not just acceptable.
1:00 I feel Pachelbel's Canon is possibly more present in popular music than any other classical composition. Other examples are "Together Again" Janet Jackson, "See You When You Get There" Coolio, "Graduation (Friends Forever)" Vitamin C, "All Together Now" The Farm, "Rain and Tears" Aphrodite's Child(early example), "Cloud 9" Nik Kershaw....oh yes and Sonic the Hedgehog (Master System) Bridge Zone by Yuzo Koshiro.
This is what music is all about. In the words of the unselfish Freddy M "do what you like with my music, just don't make me boring".
Memories is not innovative and more fun tho
You know except when they sued Vanilla Ice....
@@mattpfarr6129 Ooooh...snap!
@@mattpfarr6129 because initially he didn't credit them
@@damanbhashaphranglyngskor1102 Memories? Innovative? In the same sentence?
Hendrix's music in 2040: *enters public domain*
Hip-hop artists: "it's free real estate!"
Hendrix samples will be very interesting
damn hendrix samples in song would be intriguing. return of psychedelic rock?
@@larlluiz5902 Hahahahaha, they're gonna make generic beats for fake rappers to vomit nonsense on the mic on, and you know it damn well.
What will be funny is that many of Mr. Hendrix's better tunes were 'remakes/ rehashes' of other artists - most notably Bob Dylan - and last I checked, he's still alive, so the PD won't hit until at least 2090, so many of those 'free real estate' artists will get screwed for said attempts... Brilliant!!
Some guy mashed up Wu tang and Hendrix sounds dope: soundcloud.com/oliver-nielsen-2/02-wu-tang-jimi-hendrix-house
The problem with ripping off public domain songs is that it then becomes harder to copyright your own creation since you can't put a copyright over a melody on the public domain just because you added a beat to it. You can copyright your arrangements and lyrics... But not the melody itself.
Hey David, I have a few for you; what do you think of this two: Prelude in e Minor by Chopin and Insensatez by Carlos Jobim, key figure in Bossa Nova.
I was going to say the same! ;o)
"I wish I found some chords in an order that is new"
21 pilots, stressed out
Hahaha, i am thinking about that lyrics too haha
Never say “21 pilots” again
😭😭😭😭twenty one.....twenty one 😂but fr that song a whole mood
@@stalememes where did the 21 pilots learn how to fly?
Yeah it’s actually twentyønepiløts but ya know
“21 pilots” just really drives me crazy
Proof, everyone likes classical at least a little bit.
...as rightly they should.
It's like when you feed your dinner guests a cockroach burger and they're loving it right up till the moment you reveal the recipe. The main reason why people dislike classical music, is because they were taught it's not something they can like.
@@sallyhope2137 what do you MEAN by that?! =O
@@sallyhope2137 God, that's good! ;)
Hey, David, maybe you can help me identify a song. My dad used to sing some lyrics to a theme from the first movement of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto 2 (the first classical piece to which he introduced me). The lyrics, as he sang them, went,
"I will bring you music, swiftly as a bird my song will fly...
Through the night the music, of violins comes stealing through the gloom..."
Now, knowing my dad, some of those lyrics are probably off by a word or three, but I could have sworn that some years ago I found the popular song with those lyrics set to the first movement. I can't for the live of me, find the lyrics now. Do you have any idea what song that might have been. Thanks!
Wow, the amount of detail, and work into this is amazing. The clarity, the depth of understanding needed to put something like this is top notch. And then you have the video making ability to put it into a tutorial, just incredible. Subscribed!
Me: *plays Canon in D on the stage*
Audience: *starts singing Memories*
Pachelbel: am i a joke to u?
EDIT: spelling
Pachelbel*
Ethereal Insight Pachebel*
@@Zerz0 pachelbel**
@@timmy4312 you're right I just realised the guy spelt the name wrong in the video GG
@@Zerz0 oh I didn't realise
So basically Phoebe Buffay can still go after Ariana Grande's 7 Rings.
😂
That's if Guns and Roses don't claim it as the riff from Paradise city.
Abdulrahman Alamoudi her production team most likely paid some sort of fee to writer before the song was aired
She also doesn’t use enough of it I think - you are allowed to use a small section as a sample
Wut? Can you elaborate a bit in which parts if each song you mean?
I think it is possible to copy a prior melody or chord progression without intentionally knowing, or even hearing the original at some point. After all, the choices in music are not always infinite. Just as important ideas sometimes occur to several people at the same time, it is certainly possible in music as well.
I had that in mind for a long time. Certainly someone has calculated the possible permutations of a useful melody. But over the years you hear so much different music. Musicians even more. So how can you tell you didn't hear something 20 years ago and it stuck in your mind ? And the other way around: how can you check you didn't pick up something existent ?
i think its called relative phenomena
Good content, I’ll bet your list is much longer. You demonstrate the similarity to the original very well. I don’t know the origins of the pop music I listened to is that old.
Ok, so basically I've been listening to classical music all these years, without realising.
you were if you watched cartoons.
Not a bad thing. I think it's quite fun.
Ok, so basically I've been listening to pop all these years, without realising.
@@jackoneill8654 Kill da wabbit, kill da wabbit! Or Woody Woodpecker playing Hungarian Rhapsody while going around a curve at 90 mph or. . . .
So the MoBo’s should be renamed MoBo,oCCo’s!?
Maroon 5: 'Hey Pachelbel, can I copy your homework?'
Pachelbel: 'Sure, just change it up a bit'
Maroon 5: Memories.
soo what is it realy tho, pachabel or pachelbel? coz ive known it to be the latter?
This copying was actually an accepted practice in Pachelbel's lifetime.
Leonard Bernstein's "Somewhere" from West Side Story is taken in parts from measures of Beethoven's Piano Concerto #5 (2nd Movement Theme), Richard Strauss's Burleske for Piano and Orchestra (2nd Theme), and Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake (Song of the Swan). Lesson: When you steal, steal from the best.
The beginning I am sure is based on a new melody introduced in the coda of Romeo and Juliet. Very appropriate since the WSS plot is based on R&J.
A number one hit in the seventies here in the Netherlands was: if I had words by Scott Fitzgerald and Yvonne Keeley. (Saint Saens)
Great song. Never hear these songs on the radio
Same Scott Fitzgerald that came 2nd in Eurovision (by 1 point!) with "Go" on 1988.
I would be really mad if i listen to Canon in D by Pachelbel and someone hears it and says: "omg is Memories (instrumental)"
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@Paola Ramirez not hanging around, i'm surrounded by them
that is sacrilegious!
@@b26t4 rather InTerEstIng
same
You'll be surprised: some people will actually say that in all seriousness.
Some musicians do that subconsciously. I know a musician, a friend of mine, that told me that he had stayed up all night composing some music only to find out that he had literally ripped it off a classical piece measure for measure, he said " I was so disappointed and just went to bed after realizing what I did"
I hd the same thing with fast car(the guitar melody and the chords) from tracy chapman, without knewing the song, a friend of mine told me after i played it to him
Owww that is so sad
It happens. Every time I come up with something cool I just go "OK where did I steal this from?“
The same thing happened to George Harrison. He wrote and recorded "My Sweet Lord," and didn't realize until he got sued that it was note-for-note the Chiffons' "He's So Fine." He settled with them.
R.I.P. Eric Carmen today 12-03-24. Hope he and Rach can settle their pending issues amicably in the beyond. 😢
Michael Martin Murphey's hit from the early 70's, Wildfire, borrows from Alexander Scriabin's Prelude in D-flat, opus 11 #15, for the intro and outro. It's a beautiful piece of music.
Thank you for this. Never heard those songs before. Amazing music.
Thank you for your comment 🙏🏾Without it I would never heard amazing music like this.
*Things that will never enter the public domain:*
*Micky Mouse*
Nahhhh that's where you're too quick to assume, he'll lose his Copyright in 2025. And he'll be common ground material, Steam Boat Willie will become public unless they make a 'real-life' version.
@@Watson_Holmes I think it's a joke, because Disney always copyrights everyone
I think it’s a joke about Walt Disney still being alive inside some ice block
@@Watson_Holmes bold of you to assume disney won't make a live action version for copyright purposes
Song cowritten by Wilfred Jackson who died in 1988 mean "Steamboat Willie will be in the public domain in 2058.
4:07 “for example, what does this piece remind you of?”
Me immediately: that scene from Spongebob where handsome Squidward gets whacked back to normal
Ahhhh thank you! Was trying to remember where I heard it
I was literally going to comment that!
The episode is "The Two Faces of Squidward"
cmon bro one of the best episodes
*Me too!!!*
We can't forget the Big Ugly Clowno
I know I’m super late to this video, but another song that very clearly “copies” a classical music piece is the hit track “Play that Song” by Train. It heavily borrows the melody of “Heart and Soul” by Hoagy Carmichael and Frank Loesser in the chorus.
“Play that Song” is yet a second example of a popular song that basically just adds lyrics to the melody line of a classical tune.
I apologize if this has already been mentioned by someone else in the comments. I simply felt it should be included on the list of pop songs that show significant classical music influence.
Excellent video, David!
By the way, it's not that Canon in D isn't in copyright anymore - it never was! When Johann Pachelbel wrote that song, Copyright wasn't even a thing yet. He just gifted a piece of music to Johann Sebastian Bach for his wedding. He didn't even expected to be paid for it, as his major job was that of a famous Organist who played in many churches in the HRR. The term copyright evolved in the classical period, when composers like Mozart, Händel or Beethoven began to write either for a specific customer who then earned the right to use it first or a music printing company, who got the right to sell copies of the sheets to pianists, orchestras etc. Copyright law was only established in the 20th century, when classical composers, who feared of losing income when radio stations could broadcast their music for free to everyone, wanted some of the revenue from the broadcasters. Before that broadcasters were allowed to play the music as they want, as long as they had bought the sheets/record legally. So the RIAA, AKM, GEMA etc. got established together with law that says that every creative work is under the copyright and the creative can decide what he wants to do with it. In the end that didn't happened, as many record companies just take away the copyright from the artist
I mean, taking from canon in D isn't really being sneaky or anything as EVERYONE on planet earth will hear it's taken from canon d.
But the only thing most people will hear is Canon in D, not really the song itself.
Surprisingly that wasn't the case :O
I was just chilling at work then someone played that song, and I immediately exclaimed "that's a Pachelbel tune!", everybody was staring blankly at me. I pulled it up from youtube and they were like "yeah it sounds like it" and continued to listed to Maroon 5.
... I can't even.
@@HassanSelim0 Right! People nowadays are so uncultured, it hurts.
@@bossgamer6332 there not uncultured, rather they have a different culture.
Ethan Harris well said
Classical music: Exists
Musical artists: It's free real estate
Basically
"Midnight Blue" by Louise Tucker (released in 1982) is pretty much Beethoven's "Sonata Pathétique" with words added (I do actually like the song and Louise Tucker has a beautiful voice).
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this but - borrowing from classical music certainly existed in the Big Band era. The most famous is Benny Goodman's Let's Dance which the melody is adapted from Invitation to the Dance by Carl Maria von Weber. No copyright issues, as that piece was written in 1819.
"All the good music has already been written by guys in wigs and stuff". Frank Zappa
Non-european music enters the chat
@@elmohead you mean underdevelopment
Lucien - Music cop out bs
@@guitaristssuck8979 shit not again
@@guitaristssuck8979 what do YOU mean?
Billy Joel's 'This Night' is based on Beethoven Sonata Pathetique Second Movement and Barry Manilow's song "Could it Be Magic" is based on Chopin's Prelude in C minor, Opus 28, Number 20.
OK maybe I lack teh overall ear, but isn't it just the Chorus of "This Night" that is Beethoven?
@@le_bouvier Yes... at least I think so.
The intro is nearly exactly that.
Billy Joel actually credited Beethoven in the liner notes
"Midnight Blue", recorded by Louise Tucker in the early 80's, is another spin on the Pathétique :)
Nice video. Maybe an even better example for Chopin is Jane B, by Jane Birkin. Of course she's more of an actress than a singer, but I've always found that song quite mesmerizing.
The thing many people don't realize about Eric Carmen and Rachmaninoff was that there was actualy a third song on his first solo album that is grounded in Rachmaninoff's work. "My Girl" was obviously inspired by the FIRST movement of the Piano Concerto #2, which comes through very clearly if you know the concerto, as it opens with a French-horn solo that is taken directly from that movement of the concerto, and its melody pops up again in the bridge.
None of this is to say at all that Carmen is just setting the Rachmaninoff melodies to lyrics, though. What he did in essence with these songs is take the parts that are direct quotes from Rachmaninoff and flesh them out into full, original songs. The chorus of "All By Myself" doesn't appear anywhere in Rachmaninoff, and neither does the beautiful piano solo in the middle of the full-length version; that's all Carmen. The verses of "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" are all Carmen, and although the bridge again is taken from that same symphony that inspired the chorus, it's the clarinet solo from the same movement, and the way he works it in is quite clever. Carmen's biggest mistake, and an understandable one, was in not realizing the variations between U.S public domain and public domain elsewhere back when he wrote these pieces. As a result, he's ended up earning the Rachmaninoff estate a pretty penny over the years, especially on "All By Myself." But it wasn't even the first pop song to be inspired by the "Rach 2"--that was probably "Full Moon and Empty Arms," which took its melody from the THIRD movement of the concerto. And yes, its composers had to share writing royalties too, especially because it was written in the mid-'40s.
And, lo and behold, I just discovered another one (thanks, Wikipedia)...Frank Sinatra's "I Think of You," which actually predates "Ful Moon and Empty Arms," is, like Eric Carmen's "My Girl," a melody swipe from the first movement of the Rach 2. It's much slower, but it's the same melody.
@@trudimarrapodi6722Since Rachmaninoff died in 1943, Eric Carmen could now write more songs based on his melodies. Alas, he died a week ago.
Yoko Ono: *plays moonlight sonata*
John Lennon: Good, now play it backwards
Yoko: Doesn't play it backwards
John: That's great!
Yoko to Self: He so dumb.
John to Self: She's not too bright, isn't it? Ha ha! Got me a new song!
@@alukuhito Because why?
@@alukuhito lol
Because beatles
Glad its mentioned, didnt know it would sound good backwards. Piano though, or guitar, we all practice forwards and backwards. Maybe it was originally written backwards and now Yoko has corrected it....oooh lifes good
So in 2051, I can write a knock-off song that was like John Lennon's "Imagine" and no one will come after me?
eee-eee-clap-clap ye
I think that Yoko Ono helped compose on that one, not sure, but if she did, then nope, not until 70 years after she dies.
Actually...no... Yoko Ono was added as an official songwriter a few years ago which means “Imagine” won’t enter the public domain until 70 years after her death.
Duran Duran beat you!! Check our Femme Fatale’
It don't matter if it's legal or not, people WILL could me after you
There are also pieces that are pop/rock adaptations such as Rick Wakeman's Cans & Brahms from Yes's album Fragile as well as several works by ELP, including Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for the Common Man or Greg Lake's I believe in Father Christmas.
"United States of Eurasia" by "Muse" has a piano solo that is clearly "Nocturne in Eb major" by Chopin.
Train’s “play that song” is a rip off of “heart and soul”
Heart and soul is not classical
@@aetheriality5680 It's still an old song that was ripped off. Technically not legally, since the composer, Hoagy Carmichael, died in 1981.
@@collectionmaster I understand but this is specifically about classical music, and it didn't seem @darude90 knew that
pretty sure it's more of an homage
The writer of "play that song" recieved permission to use the infamous "heart and soul" melody.
Memories by Maroon 5 literally makes me want to vomit because I’m so traumatized by having to play Pachelbel for weddings ALL THE TIME I get so triggered when I hear it
It makes me vomit cauz an old masterpiece was dragged into modern Pop that doesnt Last longer than a month cauz the World is so fast living right now
@@oles9196 It wasn't dragged into pop, it was simply reused. It's all so not ripping off if it's very clear it wasn't you who actually composed the song
Im a violinist and Canon in D is such a beautiful piece. However, i understand how you feel: that song is so overused no one is creative anymore. Im utterly sick of being asked to play Titanic, myself. There are dozens of pieces of music in that movie...
O yes!!!! Same here!
Violinist life can be hard
Im a choir member, and one day on our freetime our pianist played canon in d and the altos started to sing memories and the pianist and I started laughing so hard
And they were kinda pissed and then I said,
Bruh, thats canon in d!
And then one of the guys said oh I didnt realize how similar they were
And the other one said oh yeah I recognize that, it was the song played on my uncles wedding
I had this video recommended to me by our sound production professor and I'm surprised that one of the classical pieces I like Prelude to E Minor by Rousseau is actually related to my favorite Radiohead song Exit Music (for a film)!!!! That's so cool, thanks for this video.
Might want to check copyright laws. I believe works written 1978 and after are protected 70 years after the death of the composer, but works written before 1978 are protected 95 years after the date of composition or publication. So anything written before 1928 is currently in public domain.
I loved when you played Canon over Memories. It was like the instrumental was continuing; it sounded really cool.
Tchaikovsky played canon over dinner
Ikr! I actually thought it was super beautiful. I would have enjoyed the song much more with instrumentation like that.
Would make a good remake...if not done so already?
Rachmaninoff's music: *exists*
Eric Carmen: "I got a hit !!!"
was gonna comment something similar
He must have bought a bunch of Rach 8-tracks and listened to them on his new hi-fi Quadrophonic system sometime in the mid-70s and got hooked , because earlier when he was with the Raspberries, he wrote all kinds of good stuff on his own.
The Spanish subtitles for this video are super well done, do you speak Spanish? Thanks so much for adding those anyway. Learning a lot from your videos.
Lots of people (musicians above all) have noticed it, as I did since many years (I'm 42), but this great video you made, allows these things to be known to the general public ;)
Bravo ! ;)
Lots of people call classical works "songs," when they're "pieces." It warms my heart to see someone not getting it confused.
The ones that are ripped off are actually songs.
Piece is the generic term. It's a song when someone is singing, an instrumental otherwise.
@@Danmashinigamikuro "Piece" is a form of abuse. It means "we're classical musicians and we don't want to associate with people who call their music songs".
Say you have "Yesterday" by the Beatles and you cover it without vocals. Does it stop being a song? No. Say you have a "choral piece" and people are singing. Are you calling it a song? No.
A song is something with a good and strong melody. Songs are difficult to write. They are an important art form that classical musicians want to denigrate with the term, "piece". I prefer the term "track" or "work". "Ode to Joy" is a song embedded in a symphony. "Toccata and Fugue" is a song. "Piece" is nothing more than a hundreds year old bullshit branding exercise.
@@sieteocho "Piece" is the generic term for a musical composition. "Track" means a recorded piece (such as on an album).
Songs are sung, hence their name. If there is no one singing, it isn't a song, it is an instrumental.
If a piece is originally sung, then covering it without vocals doesn't stop it from being a song. The cover wouldn't be one, however (in which case it would be called an instrumental cover. That's actually the term people use when they do an instrumental cover of a song, lol).
The only abuse (and bullshit) I see here comes from you, wanting to change the meaning of words you don't like because they hurt your fragile little feelings.
I would strongly advise you read a dictionary.
@@Danmashinigamikuro No shit. I thought that composition is the generic term for a composition.
Not all classical music is "songs". But the ones that pop music would want to rip off are all songs. By and large, there is a discipline about pop music, whereby if there isn't a melody that grabs your attention immediately, you're out. The CD player goes to another track. The spotify listener goes to the next one. Pop music is honest about this: the tracks that get skipped over is called "filler".
Whereas for classical music, no such honesty exists. There's plenty of space between the recognisable themes. Some of it is good. A lot of it is "it ain't over till the fat lady sings". As in, you just have to sit there with a grin while the orchestra noodles on and pretend you appreciate it.
It's true that pop music wants to emulate some of classical music, but let's be honest, it's a terribly small portion of it. The small part which deserves to be called "songs".
The fist time I heard memories I was like, wait that's Canon in D. I haven't heard anybody else talk about it (granted I've never looked) but I'm glad that I'm not the only one that noticed the correlation.
Actually it's been mentioned a lot. Anyone who knows anything about music can spot the similarities.
I noticed immediately, but wasn't offended. I always assumed it was intentional given what Canon in D is often used for and the context of the lyrics.
@@AColorIneffable Yeah, canon has been used 100 times already or so...
that's what i thought too the first time I heard it!
It's still a shit song
I love that people can take these old classical and wonderful songs, and update them to make them modern, new, and extremely listenable. They are all public domain, so there is no possible copyright and it's totally legitimate. I love that they did this. Canon is a wonderful source.
Many people have revealed that Eric Carmen borrowed melodies from Rachmaninoff for his hit songs, "All By Myself" and "Never Gonna Fall In Love Again." But there is third song from that same album (Eric's 1st solo album) called "My Girl" where the melody from the bridge (middle eight) is precisely borrowed from Rachmaninoff's 1st Movement of his 2nd Piano Concerto (but because the song was not a hit single...it often gets overlooked.
Spoiler alert: everyone rips off Pachelbel's Canon.
Just ask Rob Paravonian
@@Tensen01 Beat me to it.
Perfect by Ed Sheeran used it. I like it though.
there is a Christmas song that does a pachabel in D version . I forget which song it is right now. if you asked 2 months ago I would remember
@@Johnadams20760 Probably Christmas Canon by Trans-Siberian orchestra.
"Music cannot be created nor can it be destroyed , rather it changes from one form to another"
Law of conservation
Reminds me of law of conservation
law of conservation of music
ATOM...
Just like energy.
I kept waiting for stranger in paradise, it's a near perfect copy of Polovetsian Dance. I thought for sure it was coming next after you said the most direct copy lol
I never knew that about Eric Carmens songs until today. Aged 62, I have heard these songs over and over again. However today I see he knocked off the chords and melody for both tunes !! Thank you for the enlightenment.
Ironic that a video about 'repurposing' music has to use a cover to avoid a copyright strike.
The greatest irony is that the record companies’ attempt to control the copyright of their music in order to make music is stopping people like me telling others how great that music is and thus making them money!
Funny thing is, prior to 1973 in the USA you could only copyright the sheet music, not the sound recording... that’s why the Stairway to Heaven case jury never actually listened to the songs in question, just compared the sheet music!
@@DavidBennettPiano And they want to extend the copyrights as long as possible. If they get their way copyright would never expire.
@@DavidBennettPiano I have wondered if you would be able to contact the companies to put that case to them? Same with Rick Beato and his "What makes this song great... " series. You are selling the record for them, so they should pay you for advertising...
@gljm99 So, true.
The Moral:
If you can sing and can successfully riff off enough dead classical composers, you might have a successful music career.
@Thought Frankly It's almost impossible to use chord progressions that no one has ever used before
🤔
Noted.
@@annnee6818it is, if you are not into English music as much
Whenever the issue of copyright comes up, the one thing I always come back to is that lifetime+70 years is way too long. If you can't make sufficient bank from your creative work within a decade, you don't deserve to hog your creative works so long that your grandchildren eat better in their retirement. I hate how this always gets framed as an issue of protecting artists and creativity, when all it does is limit new creators from drawing from their inspirations without the fear of multimillion dollar lawsuits. If you want to inspire creativity and innovation, copyright should hold for far less time.
My suggestion would be to go all the way down to 10 years, but I don't know enough about copyright to gauge the reasonability of such a radical change. A more feasible recommendation might simply be the lifetime of the author. I would propose to go a bit more nuanced with the following mathematical formula:
copyright time = min{max{time until retirement of author, 20}, time until death of author}