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  • @dolores55able
    @dolores55able 5 років тому +20

    This video made me laugh so many times. I was dying when Daddy was straining to read the honey jar and his glasses were on top of his head!

  • @nottoday6917
    @nottoday6917 5 років тому +34

    5:52 Frugal Daddy feeling rejected and hurt when Momma refused to give him a pack of those bars hahahaha it's okay Daddy you can always sneak later 😅

    • @freakinfrugal5268
      @freakinfrugal5268  5 років тому +8

      He has 2 whole cakes, plus tons of other stuff, to console himself with!

    • @nottoday6917
      @nottoday6917 5 років тому +1

      @@freakinfrugal5268 Frugal Mommy I hope you read this. Since Sugar Daddy oops I mean Frugal Daddy is really into sweets with high risk of having diabetes at his age, I strongly recommend for him to drink 15ml (1 tbs) of apple cider vinegar ( Braggs w/ the mother) every morning on 180 ml warm/ hot water in an empty stomach. Also at night he must drink the same before going to bed to help his insulin levels and prevent diabeteees. Pls do some research on this also you can make your own apple cider vinegar with the Mother too! Just research here in UA-cam for rhe video. God bless!

  • @KathrynMcneal
    @KathrynMcneal 5 років тому +25

    You guys are awesome. Your antics make me laugh, and your hauls are fun to watch.

  • @joshuacorbin4569
    @joshuacorbin4569 5 років тому +6

    *I REALLY ENJOYED THE INTERACTION BETWEEN YOU TWO GUYS. YOU TWO ARE REALLY MADE FOR EACH OTHER. AND THE LOVE BETWEEN YOU TWO BOND'S YOU AND EMITS WONDERFULLY*
    _God bless the Frugal family_

  • @ladyannet1
    @ladyannet1 5 років тому +17

    Do you color your hair? 😂 oh Frugal Daddy you are hilarious 🤣 love you and Frugal mommy. Lovely couple to see dumpsterdiving and stop A bit of all this food waisting.

  • @debbiehawley1278
    @debbiehawley1278 5 років тому +18

    You two amaze me. I need neighbors like you.

    • @brendajones9377
      @brendajones9377 5 років тому

      Me too! I'd never be home, I would be over at their house so much they'd get sick of seeing me!😂

  • @Jaxmy3kids
    @Jaxmy3kids 5 років тому +6

    On the nights we go diving, we hit the CVS's first... Im singly looking for the drinks. It amazes me the GOOD usable stuff they throw out.

  • @kimberley1
    @kimberley1 5 років тому +28

    You both are just so wonderfully entertaining!😊😊❤
    And a blessing!!

  • @lindaclark5911
    @lindaclark5911 5 років тому +7

    Hey kids, omgaga! Scores! I dont eat candy but, enjoy it! My dad's glove box was full of candy, he called it pogey bait😂😀😃😄 babywipes in the glovebox for those messy diving moments.

  • @DLRyoung
    @DLRyoung 5 років тому +2

    Lol...you will only have the life savers to save you in a freaking snow storm, because daddy will sneak the good stuff out of the glove compartment! Thanks for sharing

  • @yodaclay4840
    @yodaclay4840 5 років тому +9

    “You color your hair” 😮 lol FD is a trip

  • @katrinacarmichael98
    @katrinacarmichael98 5 років тому +5

    Lol...Big Daddy about baby wipes "l use them to remove my make-up" Lol, you guys are so funny! Love it, keep the vids comin!

  • @LGAussie
    @LGAussie 5 років тому +8

    Magnesium prevents gray hair. Eat a lot of spinach too. I think the same way Amy, sometimes u can get caught in snow where no one can see ur car stuck, and u may not be able to leave the car, having granola bars would be a blessing!!

  • @michellemaples488
    @michellemaples488 5 років тому +1

    Great haul!!! I love how you always show us what’s in the blind bags!! Love CVS scores.. They throw away the craziest things that shouldn’t be thrown away like every other store..💞💞

  • @briannac5171
    @briannac5171 5 років тому +2

    As soon as I saw the color on the box of Enjoy Life cookies coming out the bag I was jealous! My youngest is anaphylactic to multiple things- Enjoy Life is our favorite brand! Almost everything they make is safe for her. They are a great company, and their snacks actually taste good too! Hope you liked them FD!

    • @freakinfrugal5268
      @freakinfrugal5268  5 років тому

      She has food allergies?

    • @briannac5171
      @briannac5171 5 років тому

      @@freakinfrugal5268 yep! Anaphylactic to egg, dairy, beef, pork, latex, bananas, avocado, shellfish, peanuts, treenuts. Fun times 😜

  • @susans3266
    @susans3266 5 років тому +2

    You color your hair. Best line ever 😍

  • @NWIDiver
    @NWIDiver 5 років тому +3

    I always dive at CVS! I haven’t bought snacks for my family in months! I love it when they throw away their waters. They’re so yummy! ❤️

  • @floridagirl2975
    @floridagirl2975 5 років тому +8

    I just love you guys . always brighten my day..

  • @dumpsterdivingmommaof2
    @dumpsterdivingmommaof2 5 років тому +2

    I scored a ton of TP once from dollar general 🙌🏼🙌🏼 def the best thing to find diving! 😂🤷🏻‍♀️ I mean we all need it & as a family of 4 also(with twins too, I know how cool right lol) you def go thru a “crap” ton of toilet paper 🧻! Awesome haul guys!! ❤️❤️😊😊

  • @gailgarcia8782
    @gailgarcia8782 5 років тому +14

    You guys are so freaking cute ❤️😍💕

  • @evangelinebarrogapiastro6198
    @evangelinebarrogapiastro6198 5 років тому +9

    hello my dearest vlogger.. I happy wacthing you always dear.. God bless

  • @JessMummy1
    @JessMummy1 3 роки тому

    I giggled when Frugal Daddy pulled the caramels through the hole in the bag haha 😄😝

  • @markcoulson4431
    @markcoulson4431 4 роки тому

    Great frugal haul today. Found 2 lounge chair covers at DG. Then found a dumpster shared by DG and little caesar pizza ,so not only stuff from DG but also free pizzas. Seems they throw them all out at the end of the night. Blessings frugal Mark and Missy.

  • @deeannamyers2970
    @deeannamyers2970 5 років тому +1

    You're family are my kind of people don't ever change!!!! ❤🤗🤗🤗

  • @mayalesovsky2764
    @mayalesovsky2764 5 років тому +29

    Baby wipes in the car for after you dumpster dive

    • @spoffy100
      @spoffy100 5 років тому +1

      That is what I use them for.

    • @reaper6088
      @reaper6088 5 років тому

      They have hand sanitizer for that..but just incase they ran out..would be an awesome idea.

  • @sharonbaulch
    @sharonbaulch Рік тому

    Love the way you interact with each other. Thanks for the laughter and for sharing your dumpster exploring🛒🛒

  • @wendyderk1587
    @wendyderk1587 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for going Mommy and frugal Daddy that was a great hall congrats God bless you and your babies and kitties too and of course the puppies 😍❤️😇

  • @zenaidarivera9580
    @zenaidarivera9580 5 років тому +1

    Great finds you guys make me laugh on my sadess days.Many blessings to you all.

  • @sharonhutchins5784
    @sharonhutchins5784 4 роки тому

    Poor frugal daddy...lol. I feel bad for him. Sneak one later! I feel like I’ve just read the, Don’t feed the bears, sign and did it anyway ! You guys are so fun, cute, and frugal!

  • @Bella-um6mz
    @Bella-um6mz 4 роки тому

    You two make the absolute best couple. I love watching y’all.

  • @ambertastic7610
    @ambertastic7610 3 роки тому

    I love how you remind frugal daddy that santa stuffs stockings. 3 videos I've seen so far. Lol. When will he learn.

  • @dawnsanchez5598
    @dawnsanchez5598 5 років тому +6

    You two are hilarious i was laughing my head off

  • @brendajones9377
    @brendajones9377 5 років тому

    One of my sisters worked at Goodwill for years. Every time she needed something at home, she would ask the "spirits" of the store for it. A day or two later, it would show up in the donations! You asking the universe for toilet paper reminded me of that!😁🧻

  • @mortylickmore571
    @mortylickmore571 5 років тому +7

    I love the cvs dumpster it always cures my need for snacks and chocklates

  • @Az2013ful
    @Az2013ful 5 років тому

    Great video guys! I laughed so hard when Frugal Daddy realized he was pulling items from the pile, through the hole in the bag. Lol

  • @diannec4372
    @diannec4372 5 років тому +3

    Hysterical! hahahahaha 🙃🌎 Greetings from Australia xxxx🙃❤️

  • @diditpanganiban8517
    @diditpanganiban8517 5 років тому

    ‘You color your hair?’ Frugal daddy says! wah!! He cracks me up!

  • @5boysmomma
    @5boysmomma 5 років тому +11

    Keep the top flap of the hair color box. It has the shade and the shade # . then you don't have to remember what the girl. Looks like.

    • @reaper6088
      @reaper6088 5 років тому

      Ha ha great idea. I will remember that one!

  • @rafaelastoakes2062
    @rafaelastoakes2062 5 років тому

    Thank you for posting so often! It's such a highlight in my day to watch you, frugal daddy, and your amazing little girls. And, you're absolutely right about stocking up on supplies for unexpected catastrophes. Here in New Zealand we weren't at all prepared for the set of earthquakes that basically ripped our city apart, and at times like those you do need quick energy, water, radios, blankets, and warm clothing to see you through. I mean, you guys do find granola bars and snacks a lot. I'm sure frugal Daddy will get a chance to sample some of those bars when you restore your supplies with "fresh stock" so to speak.

    • @freakinfrugal5268
      @freakinfrugal5268  5 років тому

      When did these earthquakes hit?

    • @rafaelastoakes2062
      @rafaelastoakes2062 5 років тому

      Freakin Frugal - they were in 2010 and 2011! The city is finally looking liveable again, but it took a lot of work. It's still a beautiful place to live, but you know natural disasters and accidents do just happen sometimes :-) the one great things that came out of it all was seeing how wonderful and kind and giving people became, because we were all in it together. It certainly gives you a new appreciation for what you have 😊

  • @DebDoesReadings
    @DebDoesReadings 5 років тому

    My mom was diabetic so treats in my house growing up was slim to none except for life savers and butterscotch hard candies. I totally understand the girl’s excitement over them I had a flashback moment when you said that lol good times 😊 plus you two are so cute together when frugal daddy said are you kidding me? I’m a widow now but back in the day my husband use to say the same thing to me too funny lol thanks for the video you guys are great 😊

  • @LGAussie
    @LGAussie 5 років тому +2

    I like my chocolate chip cookies crispy too. Sometimes I like to dip them in milk, but I prefer a cup of tea alone with my cookies.

  • @mikegalacino9228
    @mikegalacino9228 4 роки тому +1

    Baby wipes are great for cleaning rim and seat of toilets. Any of the dry surfaces that collect dust over time. Just don't flush em. That's just asking for trouble and there's no need to risk a clog. Into the regular trash they go.

  • @helengelle3984
    @helengelle3984 5 років тому +3

    Sugar free candies give me the runs😁

  • @lisaberg1853
    @lisaberg1853 5 років тому

    We're not in Kansas anymore.....in a blizzard.....but if we are we have Belvitas. 🤣 You two crack us up!!

  • @thegingerwitch322
    @thegingerwitch322 5 років тому +6

    You sounded JUST like the Count from Sesame Street!

  • @ivygraceconales1377
    @ivygraceconales1377 5 років тому +10

    Hello Frugal Mom and Dad greetings from The Philippines 🇵🇭
    Am I first here!? Lol

  • @tinaspencer900
    @tinaspencer900 2 роки тому

    Survival food in the car is an excellent idea, Frugal Mommy. Not just for snow storms. I have read a number of accounts where people have driven off route and become lost literally for days before being discovered, sometimes alive, sometimes not, or have gone off a road into a ravine or ditch deep enough to hide their vehicle, etc. So it doesn’t have to be a snow storm. A small survival bag in each vehicle won’t hurt and may save a life. By the way, this was typed in my best British accent (which sounded perfect in my head). Love your many accents.

  • @handkmommy
    @handkmommy 5 років тому +1

    I have an Unger too. Hav you ever tried a snake grabber? I got this idea that if it can grab a snake it has to be efficient. Well, it really is. I got one and it’s amazing for those heavy boxes in the back of a dumpster. If you grab a heavy box and give the grabber a half twist to really latch it on, it pulls that stuff right to you. 😀

  • @slackabuki5206
    @slackabuki5206 5 років тому

    Frugal Daddy is so adorable! He's a big kid! ♥️ You guys are so cute!

  • @enlightenedbygrace4U
    @enlightenedbygrace4U 5 років тому +1

    I hâd a good scrie too AT CVS, because they are Summer items... They have to get rid of them. I got a bunch of summer flavored seltzer water and 6-8 packs of Starbursts. Doesn’t expire until June 2020! And I found ten Honest Watermelon and Mango flavored Lemonade!!! In glass!!! I also found 2 Fish Oils that don’t expire until June 2020. I found two cases and ONE reading glasses! I didn’t know they were $25!😱

  • @pauladimarzo9688
    @pauladimarzo9688 5 років тому +2

    That is what i like to do with marshmallow peeps
    I open them and let them get stale! Really good that way!

  • @carmenlatham3108
    @carmenlatham3108 5 років тому +4

    I love cvs dumpster!I scored 4 two packs of paper towels

  • @superbellabeau
    @superbellabeau 5 років тому

    Go take your medicine Frugal Daddy! Lol 😊❤

  • @tracychapplow5987
    @tracychapplow5987 5 років тому +8

    Been looking forward for your next vid love it love watching your vids keep them coming love you guys yous are awesome

  • @ellenpowers2997
    @ellenpowers2997 5 років тому +3

    LOL, Im in Kansas. We had Cat 1, 90 mph winds last week and I couldve used a granola bar. Unfortunately, I couldnt even get to the car.

  • @noeliagonzalez7938
    @noeliagonzalez7938 4 роки тому

    Give Daddy the Granola Bar.You guys are a great together make me laugh.God bless

  • @sonyah.5443
    @sonyah.5443 5 років тому

    Love watching you guy's are so silly and funny! I'd be the lost without having you guy's to watch and make my day!!!

  • @PreciousAngel38
    @PreciousAngel38 4 роки тому

    I seen that documentary on the honey! Your right 100% to be cautious. Tell Daddy that Wisconsin has snow so deep in winter that I have a milk crate in my trunk with emergency supplies Incase I get trapped in my vehicle.

  • @teresaolander3169
    @teresaolander3169 5 років тому

    The styrofoam box inside of a cardboard box is used for shipping vaccines! It has a great Mylar bag and ice packs inside. The actual storage space is quite small for groceries / picnics but it is perfect for shipping fragile items for my Etsy store or maybe CLOCKS.

  • @susanconnell9397
    @susanconnell9397 5 років тому

    Laughing at frugal daddy tying to read the honey and he said can see it not got my glasses on .he had them on his head all the time lol

  • @trishdaniels6506
    @trishdaniels6506 5 років тому +1

    When frugal daddy gets a 'smack-a-hand' when reaching for a granola bar I was like 🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tammysmith4673
    @tammysmith4673 5 років тому +3

    Y’all crack me up sometimes Lol 😂

  • @lyndacarter5090
    @lyndacarter5090 5 років тому +1

    “Gee, Toto, we’re not in Kansas anymore!” 😆😂

  • @adrenalinedumpsterdiving3549
    @adrenalinedumpsterdiving3549 5 років тому +1

    I love babywipes and makeup remover wipes...after using i wash them...and put in a plastic container and put liquid soap or hand sanitazer for babywipes and liquid makeup remover for others..and i have a new package!!!😉 good job frugal dady!!!👌💜

  • @karynmcdonald9857
    @karynmcdonald9857 Рік тому

    That was so funny when he said "You color your hair??" and you replied "yes, for over 25 years!" Lol, it's amazing what men don't notice about their wives.

  • @MMPutnam77
    @MMPutnam77 5 років тому

    Partial boxes are sometimes from people who open the boxes and eat out of them in the store. Sometimes it's kids, sometimes it's people that are mentally ill and sometimes it's people who are fully aware that they are stealing.

  • @lorettashannon4857
    @lorettashannon4857 5 років тому +1

    Magnesium also helps with sleep

  • @amandathomas3075
    @amandathomas3075 5 років тому

    You two are Adorable together. I Freakin love you guys!! I have been on the same CVS stride. Lots of pill bottles, and not much more. Good haul!!

  • @alexisbaumann1631
    @alexisbaumann1631 5 років тому +30

    NOTE TO DUMPSTER DADDY...Try the stuff you like before bringing it home to stingy dumpster mommy haaaaaaa

  • @RTAngelRichards
    @RTAngelRichards 4 роки тому

    On the subject of honey, we live in the country on about 160 acres. My husband wanted to have bees so we could have our own honey but it's such a lot of work. A local bee keeper set his hives on our property and we receive a few cases of honey each year for letting him use our land. What a sweet deal, free honey 🍯

  • @Rosebud830
    @Rosebud830 5 років тому

    You guys were at your best today after the CVS haul. Your banter was so fun to watch, and both of you had things to say that we liked! I have the same grab stick, and Yes...its the BEST GRABBER I ever used! I got it un-used from FB, but dont know where to buy another, give us the link, please! I see leaves already in your yard, do you have Fall already, whew!???

  • @ladyd100972
    @ladyd100972 5 років тому +3

    My husband and I found 60 rolls of toilet paper at dollar general !!! FREE !!!!

  • @cakemommync
    @cakemommync 5 років тому +1

    I need those glasses cases because I buy $1 readers which, as you can imagine, don't come with cases, because I lose them or sit on them or the dog chews them, etc! Lol

  • @klaritydawn
    @klaritydawn 5 років тому

    Bahaahaaaa!! You guys are sooo darn funny! Man....Missing your vlogs guys! Whoop on the score! Hey....I live right on the Missouri/Kansas line like literally it's less than 5 miles to Kansas and we DO have CRAZY Weather! I don't Want to get on with my day girl.....that means MORE work and I don't wanna! lol! Just sayin

  • @mayalesovsky2764
    @mayalesovsky2764 5 років тому +6

    I keep hard candy in my backpack incase my blood sugar drops

  • @grannyqute2273
    @grannyqute2273 5 років тому

    Hey guys. Make sure you put a pack of those wipes in the glove compartment. You may need them too if your in a horrific snowstorm. And don't forget drinks, a change of clothes, blankets, breakfast, lunch..... LOL..JK love you! Your friend from Delaware! 😳

    • @grannyqute2273
      @grannyqute2273 5 років тому

      Have you guys ever watched Steve nSteph, they're a nice DD couple in Cali. Check them out, they are funny too.

  • @jessicacole4545
    @jessicacole4545 5 років тому

    Amy I totally agree, we have family over the pass in WA & ever since hearing about families stuck in blizzards or get stuck in the desert, go off the rd & survive but have to stay alive until they're found. My console is full of everything from trailmix to suckers for people with diabetes possibly riding with me.

    • @freakinfrugal5268
      @freakinfrugal5268  5 років тому

      Wow excellent preparedness! Do you actually know diabetics who might be in the car with you or are you just an every-scenario-possible kind of gal?

  • @amaleid876
    @amaleid876 3 роки тому

    You 2 are so hilarious. You make me laugh all the time and thats what I love about you guys 🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @evelynwildman1290
    @evelynwildman1290 5 років тому

    Use seltzer as main liquid in smoothies. I also add a couple scoops of oj with pulp from frozen concentrate and canned coconut milk to flavor. I like mine sweet so use stevia n frozen super ripe banana with other fruit! The shelter gives it a nice zing! Herbal tea works good too!
    I love the blueberry BelVita! And they are great edible spoon for Nutella! It’s whole grain, that’s healthy right
    Diaper wipes work for that extra clean for all bums!

  • @jamiepan3608
    @jamiepan3608 5 років тому

    You two are so cute. What a great couple.

  • @janellejames4526
    @janellejames4526 3 роки тому

    Hi Amy, Yes I’m still catching up on your old videos. Love them just as much as the current ones. In this one you found baby wipes. I use them a lot for wiping my hands and face (especially when it’s hot) and when I’m crafting. I saved the used ones (not the gross ones) and when I had a small bundle I opened them flat and put them into a laundry bag and washed them. Hung them out to dry. And now I can use them again for wiping up mess and for my crafting. Hanging them out to dry is the worst of the process. But if you hang a lower washing line and get the girls to hang them that would help. Give them a line each and turn it into a game or competition for some fun. Then give the winner a certificate. Get the girls to make the certificate first. It could become a regular competition. Because the wipes are cloth they can easily be washed but make sure you put them in a laundry bag or pillow slip first otherwise you will be picking them off everything you washed them with. It certainly is a money saver. If you want them wet just add water to a few in a ziplock bag. Now I have a large ziplock bag full of clean dry wipes ready to go. Anyway it’s just an idea. I hope you are all well and happy. Take care, love and hugs, ❤️❤️🐨❤️❤️

  • @yukokaystevenson4438
    @yukokaystevenson4438 5 років тому +2

    😅😅 So enjoyed you two today!
    Y'all are so great! 🤗 Great haul FD!
    Keep working on that staging 😉

  • @venusbroughton5112
    @venusbroughton5112 4 роки тому +1

    I have to take magnesium everyday can help stop you from having muscle cramps I was in a very bad car accident and I have chronic back spasms and sometimes I get cramps in the middle of the night in my calves with the way you and Frugal Daddy dance around dumpsters maybe y'all should take some it's really good

  • @janemigh3214
    @janemigh3214 5 років тому

    I live near Buffalo, NY and we've had a few good snow storms/blizzards where people have died in their cars. Not from lack of food though, from not enough gas to keep warm or from CO2 poisoning. It's actually more important to have water than food. Anyways, love you guys and your crazy videos.

  • @HillaryMarek
    @HillaryMarek 5 років тому

    Great haul WOW you always have the best luck with finding things like this. I wish you lived closer I'd take you to a few of my favorite locations that usually don't destroy anything before tossing it. I never know what to do with some of the more obscure things i find. I bet you would be a huge help in those situations. Seriously,adore you guys!

  • @JehanineMelmoth
    @JehanineMelmoth 5 років тому +1

    Loads of fun and what wonderful things!

  • @leeannr3809
    @leeannr3809 5 років тому +1

    Nice haul👍
    Honey never expires.
    If crystallized, just microwave to revive it!
    ??? Why is the Universe giving me boxes(upon boxes!) of Valentines and Christmas stuff? 😞

  • @dianenolting2622
    @dianenolting2622 5 років тому +2

    Some more great finds. You guys are fun. Lol

  • @debbiegoble9836
    @debbiegoble9836 2 роки тому

    Love watching you r so fun.

  • @jillmelton71
    @jillmelton71 5 років тому +1

    Werthers are my fav You’ll are so cute together Love your videos

  • @NessMama
    @NessMama 5 років тому +4

    Those face masks are about $3.60 each so that's a fantastic find!

  • @vinjulieann1
    @vinjulieann1 5 років тому

    I remember the wintergreen lifesavers (fresh, not stale) used to make a tiny spark when you crunched into them - do it with a mirror in a dark room - kids might like that little trick.

  • @janetthurston852
    @janetthurston852 5 років тому +2

    Were not in Kansas anymore! Eat your candy now😁😁😁😁

  • @sharonkociolek1369
    @sharonkociolek1369 4 роки тому

    I have to watch you guys everyday!!! You make me laugh! Love you guys you are my hero’s!!!

  • @dianeashley4526
    @dianeashley4526 5 років тому +3

    Frugal mommy, you took frugal daddy's spot light today. Give that man a granola bar as a reward for a job well done. 😁. Amazing haul frugal daddy and magnesium is used for digestive system. Like in milk of magnesium... (poop). You're a hoot

  • @Lovely_Chubby
    @Lovely_Chubby 5 років тому

    Hello frugal mommy and daddy it’s me again,, really love watching when u go dumpster diving ,, 😊😊😊love u both From Philippines 🇵🇭

  • @angelawesp3956
    @angelawesp3956 5 років тому

    You guys are so much fun to watch

  • @shellyhall7393
    @shellyhall7393 5 років тому

    Poor Daddy so dejected when he wasn't allowed a bar 😂😂😂

  • @ginnyhayzlett1513
    @ginnyhayzlett1513 4 роки тому

    Lol funny the whole in the bag . comic central

  • @Duckduck70
    @Duckduck70 3 роки тому

    What is all that noise frugal FAM ..Sounds like a swarm of locus or a swarm of birds or something ..Sounds freaky lol ..Nice haul always ..