yes but that's why there was so much difference between 3d and 4th lvl, to let whales enjoy their C6. Rewards of 4th lvl were meaningless, that lvl was not intended to be for reward but for enjoyment
I'm f2p and I did it without any problems without having natlan characters except kachina lisa xingqiu nahida zhongli alhaitam nahida xingqiu kuki harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett navia kachina xiangling bennett (last 3 second lol) harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett raiden national (maybe someone finds this useful)
These bosses are subjectively not that hard once you have the constellations and weapons. However, they definitely are if you haven't invested that much like him in the game. Therefore, he is right, they weren't that hard for him 😂
Yeah, it helps. Though if you have the right select few, you're also golden. Like Xilonen and a C1+ Chiori means you're set for pretty much every stage, as it leaves you with 2 slots to meet the requirement, if the core two don't. And for most of the stages, one of those two can be Furina, and the other can be some carry, which coupled with Chiori's damage means you win.
I have a ton, a few signatures (no constellations though) and the only two stages I was able to full clear were the Yumkasaur boss and the triple Kenki. I couldn't even clear the triple Kenki until I brought Nilou
I never knew about the mechanic, because if you have strong enough teams to do a challenge like this, you kill it before it gets in its pillars. I found out before I did the challenge but I would’ve been as clueless as Moga for once lol
Whale way(Brute force) to not know bosses because they one hit them before the bosses starts the mechanic. Thats why the new abyss boss will require a new mechanic to prevent them.
The turtle's shield is actually activated by the number of hit you score on it, like 30 to 40 times, so the best way to deal with it is to use characters with high alpha damage per hit and kill it within the hit limit
@@vondertann8218 i think he's talking about how burning ticks DONT count towards the cocijo shield stack ticks, but yeah cocijo is easy to do with mualani teams or freeze since it increases the dps window to do dmg before its shield is up
It really makes me question how people with all C6 R5 characters even enjoy the game anymore when Moga who isn't even at that point didn't know that the boss for Xilonen drops had mechanics. Like what genre of game are you playing, a point and kill adventure?? I know Genshin is by no means a hard game but do they not even engage with the game mechanics anymore that aren't specifically character based? What's the point of fighting when every enemy is as easy to beat as a chicken which instantly cooks when you slap it.
To me kenki trio was actually the easiest but that's because I went in with Nilou team where it's hard to die lol. Seeing whales struggle, even a little bit, makes me super proud I could actually pass the hardest difficulty lol (all C0, no Yelan/Xq/Xilonen/Raiden/Kinich/Emilie) and 5* weapons only on Nilou, Neuv, Mualani. I love how suprisingly useful Kachina was to me this event too 💛
@mayumi6457 I sadly don't remember exactly, it was probably Nilou, Nahida, Furina and Yaoyao or Baizhu? I tried to take all high hp units to not worry about dying, aside from poor Nahehe, she had to dodge
People have cleared the hardest difficulties with 4 star teams with ease. The event wasn't that hard but yeah his constellations did make this a Cake walk
@@jordan.d1475Mostly a DPS check but also a skill check. Since you need to know how to build your teams. For example: You need characters that can apply elements quickly to break the Mimiflora's forms. It's nearly impossible to beat the new robot boss without a Natlan character to remove its resistances (Kachina works great so every player could do it). You need characters that can break the Tortoise's shield without dying. In my case, there's also the fact that, since the time limit can be so tight, sometimes I needed to not waste time triggering a skill or burst. Figuring out what I *don't* need to do was part of the strategy. Additionally, I needed to change some builds like giving Xilonen's artifacts to Kachina or putting Favonius Spear on Xiangling. In other words, it was a skill check.
No thanks please I was already done like dude these events are the only place where we can earn primos and if they make it so difficult it becomes so so so hard to earn primos for a f2p it's a whole different struggle you whales won't get it.
Because for most veteran players with decent teams, the team will kill the overworld version before it gets on its pillars. I did happen to hear from my friends about the pillars so I knew before going into the challenge but otherwise I would’ve been as clueless as Moga for once LOLOL.
Like most events I jumped straight to max difficulty. Kenkis chain stunned and killed me before I could move, so I dropped difficulty level one notch and never looked back. I'm glad harder events like this exist, but I've got 2 accounts to keep current, so I never push till I beat something. Imaginarium theater and spiral abyss each get one try per account, I get what I get and move on.
Her c2 allows her to have her geo source be always active so she can be in the team and always shred geo res, you still need to normal attack on her for the artifact buff and you don't recieve her healing
I know I’m a whale so it’s always gonna be easy but I wish they’d be more creative with “hard” events instead of just making them hp sponges or glass canons that can one shot you (only if you don’t have zhongli)
I saw many people saying you need c6 characters for this event, or that it's impossible. I genuinely believe what happens is that people see how little the health bar moved at first, got hit a couple times, died, and just assumed it was too hard. I genuinely believe any vet or long term player that has well invested characters could have cleared this at max difficulty. Especially if you read the buffs and structured your teams accordingly. I have both Neuvillette c0 and Arlecchino c2, but I didn't use either them for this whole event. Mostly I used Clorinde and Navia teams. All my 5 stars are c0 (other than Arle), with mostly 4 star weapons. I was able to clear this at max difficulty, without too much trouble.
Yup for veteran players this wasnt too hard once you figured out mechanics at some bosses and i mostly have all my 5* at c0 aswell. Though as always the xilo furina kazu yelan team carried me through most of these bosses without me bothering switching
To be fair everyone's first try on the hardest difficulty is likely the Triple Maguu Kenki, and when you see those health bars hardly move as the boss basically one shots you it paints a pretty clear picture. If the first stage is that hard why would the others be any easier?
This event is fairly good even if you dont go vertical invest your characters since the buff is really good. I was completly fine with c0r0 neuv and other teams
Yeah, im a vet and I'm f2p (except for a c6 wriothesley because I'm a simp) Ofc when I used wriothesley, it was easier, but I did manage to do it with other teams and clear it all
Exactly dude I was actually destroying those kenkis with r1 c0 but his interruption was really losing all those dps. I thought to myself I will definitely get his c1 when his banner comes on the next part
I did it with regular units and I was so happy and mad. The turtle was insane. I was chucking down food and doing all sorts of teams to complete these challenges.
2:36 no this is not the tenebrous papilla (the new boss in 5.2) this is an elite monster version of the tenebrous papilla which you encounter in act 4 during the abyss war but outside of act 4 this is the only time this monster has appeared in the game so make sense why you confused the 2
I watched others play so I still knew what to do with the pillars, but yeah, when I was farming for Xilonen, I never got to that stage 😂C2R1 Mualani kinda does that
@@minttea9643 yup i did that boss with furina kazuha xilonen yelan and never saw the pillars but luckily knew the mechanics after first few trys using different team befor i switched to that other team that takes care of this boss pretty easy
The bosses in the open world aren't exactly tough for a long term player, let alone a whale. Pretty standard to watch a video of others fighting a boss and go, "Oh, he has mechanics?". Sometimes, that can happen during the Abyss as well.
@@xyliamoonlight2970 But even that, you might not realize. Like my team when I was farming had Chiori and Xil in. That's 2 sources of geo resistance debuffing (Geo resonance, Xil), and a lot of DMG. You get an even stronger effect if you're using Kaz with Xil, say for a Neuv team. And there are a variety of DPS sources that don't care if the thing is up in the air either, like Chiori, Yae, Furina, Emilie, and so on. So you might see the pillars, but one of those characters finishes off the boss, no problem. There's also a really big power gap between a person with c0s and 4 star weapons and someone with conned up 5 five stars that are using their signatures, especially for newer characters. Because the newest characters have more impactful weapons and the new supports improve with cons in a way the old ones don't, so you gain a multiplicative effect. The gap between those that vertically invest and those that don't is growing, and doing so rapidly.
@ I might have to revisit the boss with neuvi then, I was running a nahida hyperbloom team to farm it and it was impossible without destroying them even on c2 nahida with weapon lol. I imagine a more aoe focused team just destroys the crystals automatically
@@xyliamoonlight2970 I think you actually need to get onto the pillars because when I was trying out the boss with my Wanderer (the event version of boss), I could hit towards, but not destroy the crystals until I got onto each pillar. What I did with C2R1 Mualani while farming for Xilonen was just defeat the boss before it could even get to that phase 😂 Edit: Yep, seems there are shields around the crystals protecting them from ranged attacks. You don't actually need to stand on the pillar, but you need to be inside the shield.
I did all bosses with relative ease, but died so many times on the turtle... I tried it without any Natlan characters in my team, and it is nearly impossible. I don't have any 5* Natlan characters... so I ended up using Kachina for the damage buff from triggering 2x Nightsoul. Also Xiangling is amazing at destroying the shield of the turtle.
Ayaka and her cryo application was really nice for the turtle. Even on my boyfriends account, just throwing Ayaka on a typical Neuvi team did the trick. Lol
I have each highest level stage a full attempt dusting off characters making sure they built My account is not bad but I wasn't able to complete any of it but I liked that the game went from 0 to 110 was a nice change not blowing through an enemy
my navia hypercarry carried this event for me in the hardest difficulty lmao, except for the trio kenkis i couldn't clear that at the hardest fuck that
Tbh I was a bit disappointed since people kept hyping up this event as being "really hard" but then I finished all stages quite easily. The hardest was the turtle and thats only because I kept dying.
Watching this video is triggering my ptsd 😂. Tbh this event was fun. The 3 i struggled with were the same ones you lost to multiple times but I managed to clear all of them on steadfast as well. Definitely a account check but would love to do this again
I blasted through all of them with a hu tao/furina/yelan/xilonen comp and plenty of time to spare, switched xilonen with xianyun against the 3 maguu kenki tho
The kenki part of this event pissed me off Had to whip out zhongli cause my team kept dying I also didnt even try to fight the turtle cause that enemy is super dumb
this event gave us new enemies that should never be inserted in spiral abyss F12 -mimiflora and secret source automaton, soon after update papilla would join shadow realm if it is annoyingly hard. shadow realmed creaturas since ancient ages: ruin worm, wenut, golden wolf, cryo herald
Was able to beat this whole event relatively f2p (have been completely f2p since alhaitham first run, and before then barely spent). I also hv none of the natlan characters besides ka hina who is level one. I will be frank, this event wasn’t easy but it also was not hard. It is mostly a skill check with the dps check coming after. This is because it’s basically natlan character bait, especially for xilonen. But honestly, after learning the mechanics it was just a matter of beating the time limit. In fact some of the bosses were way too easy imo. The green natlan boss was by far the easiest, my Diluc took care of him quick. Triple magu kenki was also easy bec of hyperbloon. The abyss monsters weren’t hard, more medium difficulty. The pillar boss is pure xilonen bait, but once I learned the boss it was easy. The turtle is the only one I can say was “hard”, and it’s only because it’s constantly attacking (I hate that spin move). But basically, as much as they’re really pushing it this patch, you don’t need natlan units at all to beat this kind of content. As a lot of them are just for nuking anyways. I literally used plunge xiao for that pillar boss and got it on my third try. Invest in who you like and give yourself options, don’t feel baited or discouraged because you’re struggling rn.
@nytnk *"Character switch on cooldown"* *Delayed input* *Delayed character switch.* *Tons of hp in time gated challenge* *Character that got switched out dies out of nowhere.* Sure, and i was playing on 60 ms ping.
@@waduhhfreeze9779 The switching cooldown is indeed a real problem, but the enemies having a lot of hp IS the challenge. If the enemies didn’t have so much hp, it would be way too easy to do this, and it’s supposed to be a challenge.
The biggest proof how someone is whale that how he doesn't know how a boss works.Btw the second stage that abyss creature its an Elite mob from Natlan Archon quest 4 this copy elite mobs, the boss will copy bosses. I hated this Whale simulator stages. Yeah, you could use potions and food but the combos and the char requirement is just insane. The only time forced to use potions and food buffes was the Diluc fight event.
I am f2p and did it without much trouble except one. lisa xingqiu nahida zhongli alhaitam nahida xingqiu kuki harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett navia kachina xiangling bennett (last 3 second lol) harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett raiden national (maybe someone finds this useful)
Is this a whale benchmark difficulty setting? It doesn't look difficult, it just looks unreasonably punishing. I notice they put a lot of these difficulty settings in other events and sometimes put primo rewards in them, which is annoying as I can almost never get them.
TBH watching this video the only thing that pisses me off is Moga's run on the 4th challenge... saying "Luckily we have Xilonen's res shred here" but on this team he is using, his Xilonen is on dps mode... and didn't know the boss' mechanic despite having a leveled up Xilonen YES of course he does not know this because his characters are pretty much whaled: 1- He has a C2 Xilonen anyway so not caring of anything if his Xilonen is a dps or not her C2 can make her flexible already on all none-geo or geo teams 2-Since in the open world this boss is not really that strong, he can easily beat this with his whaled team without even knowing the mechanic idk it makes me laugh at first but also pisses me as well, I felt like having mixed feeling here 🤣
The problem is that other type of events aren't really much better. For example, if enemies hit hard, then the current crop of hydro hp scalers have a big advantage, and certain other characters like Zhongli or Dehya can trivialize it, while glass cannons will die. And then people complain (like they did with double consecrated beasts). Dodge or die mechanics, sure, appealing to WuWa players, but not a guy playing on a potato phone with a lot of lag. Trivial to get rewards but the points keep counting mean the points serve no purpose for most people, barring those that want to compete with others. Like, ooh, I got 20k points in the last one of those type events. Was boring, though, because I could barely land one melee hit on a mob before it died. There's also a lot of variance between accounts. A long term player who has spent money is going to be a drastically different level than a newer player. And the gap between those who vertically invest (which typically involves spending) is getting bigger and bigger, thanks to constellations having more impact and the new signatures being much more niche and impactful. Short of Genshin changing how it handles events (require multiple runs to get max rewards, make progress at certain checkpoints, keeps getting harder as you pass each checkpoint) there's no ideal solution. And since Genshin wants a low play time per day requirement, that's just not going to happen.
"not as hard as I thought"
for a C6 owner, yes
yes but that's why there was so much difference between 3d and 4th lvl, to let whales enjoy their C6. Rewards of 4th lvl were meaningless, that lvl was not intended to be for reward but for enjoyment
I also thought it was easy. But I am a day 1 active player.
My characters only c0 except standard banner characters, and it's ez
I'm f2p and I did it without any problems without having natlan characters except kachina
lisa xingqiu nahida zhongli
alhaitam nahida xingqiu kuki
harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett
navia kachina xiangling bennett (last 3 second lol)
harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett
raiden national
(maybe someone finds this useful)
ong C6 owners’ opinions should not mean much. as well as players who got xilonen cuz shes very much necessary on this event
Pft "not that hard as I originally thought" meanwhile him: *Continuously dying with characters with op constellations and weapons*
its moga, what do you expect lmaooo
Bad artifacts tho
These bosses are subjectively not that hard once you have the constellations and weapons.
However, they definitely are if you haven't invested that much like him in the game.
Therefore, he is right, they weren't that hard for him 😂
Having so many different (5 star) characters available helps a lot.
Yeah, it helps. Though if you have the right select few, you're also golden. Like Xilonen and a C1+ Chiori means you're set for pretty much every stage, as it leaves you with 2 slots to meet the requirement, if the core two don't. And for most of the stages, one of those two can be Furina, and the other can be some carry, which coupled with Chiori's damage means you win.
I have a ton, a few signatures (no constellations though) and the only two stages I was able to full clear were the Yumkasaur boss and the triple Kenki. I couldn't even clear the triple Kenki until I brought Nilou
5:06 no way you leveled up Xilonen without even learning how the boss worked
I did too...
I never knew about the mechanic, because if you have strong enough teams to do a challenge like this, you kill it before it gets in its pillars. I found out before I did the challenge but I would’ve been as clueless as Moga for once lol
Whale way(Brute force) to not know bosses because they one hit them before the bosses starts the mechanic. Thats why the new abyss boss will require a new mechanic to prevent them.
@@Ati.148u don’t even have to be a whale the boss is so weak lmfao
it’s extremely squishy in the overworld, i can’t blame him.
The turtle's shield is actually activated by the number of hit you score on it, like 30 to 40 times, so the best way to deal with it is to use characters with high alpha damage per hit and kill it within the hit limit
burn is most effective , they tick counts as hits
@@zawardo111 well, i'm not talk about the one moga used kinich to beat, which is also a tick based shield, but the turtle he struggled with Nuvi,
@@vondertann8218 I used mualani to one rotate it before it gets the shield.
@@vondertann8218 i think he's talking about how burning ticks DONT count towards the cocijo shield stack ticks, but yeah cocijo is easy to do with mualani teams or freeze since it increases the dps window to do dmg before its shield is up
I guess that’s why I was only able to do it with Mualani
This event hit harder than the belt lashes I get from my dad.
Bruh.. 💀
Not even close
Ur dad didn't hit hard enough
not harder than the spank your mom gets it from me tho
Bruh...don't be too relatable 💀
Moga clearing so slow as a whale will always be hilarious.
I love the casual content tho keep it up 🙃
It really makes me question how people with all C6 R5 characters even enjoy the game anymore when Moga who isn't even at that point didn't know that the boss for Xilonen drops had mechanics. Like what genre of game are you playing, a point and kill adventure?? I know Genshin is by no means a hard game but do they not even engage with the game mechanics anymore that aren't specifically character based? What's the point of fighting when every enemy is as easy to beat as a chicken which instantly cooks when you slap it.
As a whale I enjoy the animations and the characters
I hate in-depth, hard or long boss fights in any game
Nilou bloom loves the three kenkis
Yeasss she melted through them, love her for it
Tried that, didn't work out. Replacing Nilou with Raiden Shogun made it fairly easy though.
@@Tagl. Ofc it doesn't work for everyone. You need to know how nilou bloom works against those 3
To me kenki trio was actually the easiest but that's because I went in with Nilou team where it's hard to die lol.
Seeing whales struggle, even a little bit, makes me super proud I could actually pass the hardest difficulty lol (all C0, no Yelan/Xq/Xilonen/Raiden/Kinich/Emilie) and 5* weapons only on Nilou, Neuv, Mualani. I love how suprisingly useful Kachina was to me this event too 💛
what characters did you use for nilou team?
@mayumi6457 I sadly don't remember exactly, it was probably Nilou, Nahida, Furina and Yaoyao or Baizhu? I tried to take all high hp units to not worry about dying, aside from poor Nahehe, she had to dodge
@ thanks!
5:59 "Luckily we have Xilonen's res shred here" no you don't xilonen is in dps mode in this team..
He has c2 which disables this restriction and makes her have the geo res shred at all times
@ ooohhh yeah true my bad
No her c2 makes it so the geo triangle is always active which means all the benefits of an active triangle are also there for geo specifically
"Not as hard as I had thought ...you have c6!
People have cleared the hardest difficulties with 4 star teams with ease. The event wasn't that hard but yeah his constellations did make this a Cake walk
I tired the first stage when the event started, got them all to half hp and ran out of time. didn't try any of the other ones after that.
2:36 Isn't this boss not even release yet?
Ah, so you haven't done the Archon Quest?
He probably killed those enemies too quickly in the AQ to even see their true forms.
4:04 What in the world is that resistance to interuption?!?
He has Xingqiu (elemental skill), Arl (c1), and Xilonen (c1).
This event was fun and a massive skill check. They need to make more events like this honestly.
It wasnt a skill check at all its just a DPS check
@@jordan.d1475Mostly a DPS check but also a skill check. Since you need to know how to build your teams. For example:
You need characters that can apply elements quickly to break the Mimiflora's forms.
It's nearly impossible to beat the new robot boss without a Natlan character to remove its resistances (Kachina works great so every player could do it).
You need characters that can break the Tortoise's shield without dying.
In my case, there's also the fact that, since the time limit can be so tight, sometimes I needed to not waste time triggering a skill or burst. Figuring out what I *don't* need to do was part of the strategy. Additionally, I needed to change some builds like giving Xilonen's artifacts to Kachina or putting Favonius Spear on Xiangling. In other words, it was a skill check.
@@mistman_161 agreed
@@jordan.d1475 I beg to differ
No thanks please I was already done like dude these events are the only place where we can earn primos and if they make it so difficult it becomes so so so hard to earn primos for a f2p it's a whole different struggle you whales won't get it.
how tf did you raise xilonen without knowing the source automaton's core mechanic?
just beat it before that stage
Because his c6 five stars one shots the boss before it even reaches that phase
Because for most veteran players with decent teams, the team will kill the overworld version before it gets on its pillars. I did happen to hear from my friends about the pillars so I knew before going into the challenge but otherwise I would’ve been as clueless as Moga for once LOLOL.
Like most events I jumped straight to max difficulty. Kenkis chain stunned and killed me before I could move, so I dropped difficulty level one notch and never looked back.
I'm glad harder events like this exist, but I've got 2 accounts to keep current, so I never push till I beat something. Imaginarium theater and spiral abyss each get one try per account, I get what I get and move on.
Moga you do realise xilonen is in DPS mode in that itto team right...
C2+ Xilonen has geo res shred active permanently iirc
Yeah literally no reason to switch to her since he has c2 unless he wants to break the pillars
Her c2 allows her to have her geo source be always active so she can be in the team and always shred geo res, you still need to normal attack on her for the artifact buff and you don't recieve her healing
@@oxovly4455You forgot she still needs to activate the cinder city buff so you still need to swap back to her to activate the artifact passive
@@oxovly4455 hero set? sig effect?
This event was a major dps check for me, even my usual best teams were running out of time. Your neuvilette team though.... jesus. 170k ticks...
Bro it would be so good if this event were a permanent rotative mode
I’m gonna be so real, Neuv, Kazuha, Xilonen, Furina let me no skill the entire hardest mode of the event (c0 r0 for everyone)
Happy there's hard content for people who want to push themselves, but I "nah waved" out of this after 1 try when I saw how tanky every boss was.
1:43 "no protection" BAD 😤
I know I’m a whale so it’s always gonna be easy but I wish they’d be more creative with “hard” events instead of just making them hp sponges or glass canons that can one shot you (only if you don’t have zhongli)
Insanity, this event was fun
Those kenkis are annoying as hell. they keep splitting up like they hate each other
I saw many people saying you need c6 characters for this event, or that it's impossible. I genuinely believe what happens is that people see how little the health bar moved at first, got hit a couple times, died, and just assumed it was too hard. I genuinely believe any vet or long term player that has well invested characters could have cleared this at max difficulty. Especially if you read the buffs and structured your teams accordingly.
I have both Neuvillette c0 and Arlecchino c2, but I didn't use either them for this whole event. Mostly I used Clorinde and Navia teams. All my 5 stars are c0 (other than Arle), with mostly 4 star weapons. I was able to clear this at max difficulty, without too much trouble.
Yup for veteran players this wasnt too hard once you figured out mechanics at some bosses and i mostly have all my 5* at c0 aswell. Though as always the xilo furina kazu yelan team carried me through most of these bosses without me bothering switching
To be fair everyone's first try on the hardest difficulty is likely the Triple Maguu Kenki, and when you see those health bars hardly move as the boss basically one shots you it paints a pretty clear picture. If the first stage is that hard why would the others be any easier?
This event is fairly good even if you dont go vertical invest your characters since the buff is really good. I was completly fine with c0r0 neuv and other teams
Yeah, im a vet and I'm f2p (except for a c6 wriothesley because I'm a simp)
Ofc when I used wriothesley, it was easier, but I did manage to do it with other teams and clear it all
I did it with C0R1 non-whale characters. I had to use food for some of them though. It was impossible to meet the dps requirement otherwise.
This event is what compelled me to save for c1r1 neuvillette
nice one hoyo
Exactly dude I was actually destroying those kenkis with r1 c0 but his interruption was really losing all those dps. I thought to myself I will definitely get his c1 when his banner comes on the next part
I did it with regular units and I was so happy and mad. The turtle was insane. I was chucking down food and doing all sorts of teams to complete these challenges.
watching him struggle for the new xiloen boss was funny lmao
2:36 no this is not the tenebrous papilla (the new boss in 5.2) this is an elite monster version of the tenebrous papilla which you encounter in act 4 during the abyss war but outside of act 4 this is the only time this monster has appeared in the game so make sense why you confused the 2
Tenebrous Mimiflora.
They also showed up in this season's Imaginarium Theater.
They're on one of the available stages for Act 7.
Man, I remember when you were still doing content on E7. You've really come so far in your UA-cam journey :D
Completing all of them on Steadfest was a good challenge it was pretty fun though
wait how did you farm the xilonen boss if you didn't know that mechanic 😭
I imagine he just nukes em before the pillar appears
Brute force 😎
I watched others play so I still knew what to do with the pillars, but yeah, when I was farming for Xilonen, I never got to that stage 😂C2R1 Mualani kinda does that
@@minttea9643 yup i did that boss with furina kazuha xilonen yelan and never saw the pillars but luckily knew the mechanics after first few trys using different team befor i switched to that other team that takes care of this boss pretty easy
*whales*
Congrats on forcing through it.
That 1st one was seriously hard.
Wait how did you upgrade xilonen if you didn’t know how to disable the boss? Did you just raw dog it for all 46 of the upgrade mats??
The bosses in the open world aren't exactly tough for a long term player, let alone a whale. Pretty standard to watch a video of others fighting a boss and go, "Oh, he has mechanics?". Sometimes, that can happen during the Abyss as well.
@ yeah but that boss in particular has crazy resistances which means he spent the entire fight without debuffing him which is crazy
@@xyliamoonlight2970 But even that, you might not realize. Like my team when I was farming had Chiori and Xil in. That's 2 sources of geo resistance debuffing (Geo resonance, Xil), and a lot of DMG. You get an even stronger effect if you're using Kaz with Xil, say for a Neuv team. And there are a variety of DPS sources that don't care if the thing is up in the air either, like Chiori, Yae, Furina, Emilie, and so on. So you might see the pillars, but one of those characters finishes off the boss, no problem.
There's also a really big power gap between a person with c0s and 4 star weapons and someone with conned up 5 five stars that are using their signatures, especially for newer characters. Because the newest characters have more impactful weapons and the new supports improve with cons in a way the old ones don't, so you gain a multiplicative effect. The gap between those that vertically invest and those that don't is growing, and doing so rapidly.
@ I might have to revisit the boss with neuvi then, I was running a nahida hyperbloom team to farm it and it was impossible without destroying them even on c2 nahida with weapon lol. I imagine a more aoe focused team just destroys the crystals automatically
@@xyliamoonlight2970 I think you actually need to get onto the pillars because when I was trying out the boss with my Wanderer (the event version of boss), I could hit towards, but not destroy the crystals until I got onto each pillar.
What I did with C2R1 Mualani while farming for Xilonen was just defeat the boss before it could even get to that phase 😂
Edit: Yep, seems there are shields around the crystals protecting them from ranged attacks. You don't actually need to stand on the pillar, but you need to be inside the shield.
I did all bosses with relative ease, but died so many times on the turtle... I tried it without any Natlan characters in my team, and it is nearly impossible.
I don't have any 5* Natlan characters... so I ended up using Kachina for the damage buff from triggering 2x Nightsoul.
Also Xiangling is amazing at destroying the shield of the turtle.
I did enjoy this event so much. As a whale this was the first time i had time to do full rotations and get something a bit challenging
Ayaka and her cryo application was really nice for the turtle. Even on my boyfriends account, just throwing Ayaka on a typical Neuvi team did the trick. Lol
imagin leveling xilonen until max but never ever disable her world boss 💀💀
I hope we get to see more videos of this type!
I have each highest level stage a full attempt dusting off characters making sure they built
My account is not bad but I wasn't able to complete any of it but I liked that the game went from 0 to 110 was a nice change not blowing through an enemy
I tried it and suffered, barely beat some of them and absolutely DEMOLISHED the other stuff. but like 3 of them I didn't even get to like half lmao
I just barely beat all the steadfast difficulty with neuv, raiden Nat, kinich burn and a lot of food/potion buff😂
my navia hypercarry carried this event for me in the hardest difficulty lmao, except for the trio kenkis i couldn't clear that at the hardest fuck that
As a F2P I did the whole event with Yoimiya but had to give up when fighting the Kenkis (Multiple Targets).
I was gonna say mean words here, but that's not gonna solve Moga's troubles.
4/6 of the fights was just neuvillette and furina versus the world for me lol
I gave up with the Kenkis, but max stared all the other stages, so i'm still proud of myself (even though it took my sanity that evening xD)
Xilonen can climb up the pillars for the robot boss. Hope that helps!
This event felt like playing Street Fighter 2 with my dad but we forgot we don't own a Super Nintendo 🤕
Tbh I was a bit disappointed since people kept hyping up this event as being "really hard" but then I finished all stages quite easily. The hardest was the turtle and thats only because I kept dying.
Took my best teams, but i got steadfast done.
Turtle was the hardest for me but jadeplume was second hardest for me since I was running hyperbloom and I barely got it with a few seconds to spare
With a very well invested f2p account, f2p players can beat the steadfast...
Watching this video is triggering my ptsd 😂. Tbh this event was fun. The 3 i struggled with were the same ones you lost to multiple times but I managed to clear all of them on steadfast as well. Definitely a account check but would love to do this again
I'm glad I was able to perfect the difficult content despite not being as much of a whale like Moga. Didn't clear it as quick though lol
Zeelonen is OP, can even be built as dps
I blasted through all of them with a hu tao/furina/yelan/xilonen comp and plenty of time to spare, switched xilonen with xianyun against the 3 maguu kenki tho
The kenki part of this event pissed me off
Had to whip out zhongli cause my team kept dying
I also didnt even try to fight the turtle cause that enemy is super dumb
Cleared the turtle with c2 Kinich, Bennett, Zhongli and Yanfei TTDS with just 2 rotations 💀
this event
gave us new enemies that should never be inserted in spiral abyss F12
-mimiflora and secret source automaton, soon after update papilla would join shadow realm if it is annoyingly hard. shadow realmed creaturas since ancient ages: ruin worm, wenut, golden wolf, cryo herald
Was able to beat this whole event relatively f2p (have been completely f2p since alhaitham first run, and before then barely spent). I also hv none of the natlan characters besides ka hina who is level one.
I will be frank, this event wasn’t easy but it also was not hard. It is mostly a skill check with the dps check coming after. This is because it’s basically natlan character bait, especially for xilonen. But honestly, after learning the mechanics it was just a matter of beating the time limit. In fact some of the bosses were way too easy imo.
The green natlan boss was by far the easiest, my Diluc took care of him quick. Triple magu kenki was also easy bec of hyperbloon. The abyss monsters weren’t hard, more medium difficulty. The pillar boss is pure xilonen bait, but once I learned the boss it was easy. The turtle is the only one I can say was “hard”, and it’s only because it’s constantly attacking (I hate that spin move).
But basically, as much as they’re really pushing it this patch, you don’t need natlan units at all to beat this kind of content. As a lot of them are just for nuking anyways. I literally used plunge xiao for that pillar boss and got it on my third try. Invest in who you like and give yourself options, don’t feel baited or discouraged because you’re struggling rn.
I barely did this event on all steadfast difficulties lol some were easier than others i think first and last were the hardest
Got tortoise with Kinich burn team pretty comfy, but instead of Nahida I put Baizhu on a team. Dendro and pyro eat its shield real fast
Atless I clear all of it. Even though I kinda have to go all out on buffing my Raiden all the way for other 5 stage.
your xilonen was in dps mode in the itto team so the 110k swings were without xilonen correct me if i am wrong
someone explain to me how someone who have lvl 90 xilonen don't know how to beat her boss?(I understood the boss before even having xilonen)
The Kenki Trio actually gets countered pretty Nicely by any Nilou team
Dehya carried me, Dmg mitigation > shield ngl
im like the only one who found the turtle the easiest
combat events always slap
How is it possible to have Xilonen and not to know the climbing phase for her boss ? 😭😂
is this like the dire straits event from a whiiiiile back
Wait... what level is your Xilonen? Don't you need that boss's material to ascend her? How did you not know how to climb that rock?
SO THATS WHY I COULDNT BEAT THEM
This event actually highlight how bad genshin's combat gameplay was
or maybe more how bad you are at the game ?
How so?
@nytnk
*"Character switch on cooldown"*
*Delayed input*
*Delayed character switch.*
*Tons of hp in time gated challenge*
*Character that got switched out dies out of nowhere.*
Sure, and i was playing on 60 ms ping.
@@waduhhfreeze9779 The switching cooldown is indeed a real problem, but the enemies having a lot of hp IS the challenge. If the enemies didn’t have so much hp, it would be way too easy to do this, and it’s supposed to be a challenge.
Not to mention, the super gimmicky boss fight
The last 2 i barely have enough dmg for it
when both xilonen and kachina are on cinder set..does the set bonus stack up ?
I think c0 xilones buffs don't work in a mono geo teams
Buffs and debuffs, boons and flaws
raiden's best team is raiden chevreuse teams, try them in new abyss
3:33 guys is it only me or thats a c1 or c0 Arle? Didnt bro c6r5 her?..
The biggest proof how someone is whale that how he doesn't know how a boss works.Btw the second stage that abyss creature its an Elite mob from Natlan Archon quest 4 this copy elite mobs, the boss will copy bosses.
I hated this Whale simulator stages. Yeah, you could use potions and food but the combos and the char requirement is just insane. The only time forced to use potions and food buffes was the Diluc fight event.
What happened to Wuwa videos man i was waiting for Camellya video at least
I am f2p and did it without much trouble except one.
lisa xingqiu nahida zhongli
alhaitam nahida xingqiu kuki
harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett
navia kachina xiangling bennett (last 3 second lol)
harlequin xingqiu zhongli bennett
raiden national
(maybe someone finds this useful)
Is this a whale benchmark difficulty setting? It doesn't look difficult, it just looks unreasonably punishing. I notice they put a lot of these difficulty settings in other events and sometimes put primo rewards in them, which is annoying as I can almost never get them.
Neuv team geting sub minute clear in the vape boss without vape lol.
Also kil the climbling. boss without climbling.
TBH watching this video the only thing that pisses me off is Moga's run on the 4th challenge... saying "Luckily we have Xilonen's res shred here" but on this team he is using, his Xilonen is on dps mode... and didn't know the boss' mechanic despite having a leveled up Xilonen
YES of course he does not know this because his characters are pretty much whaled:
1- He has a C2 Xilonen anyway so not caring of anything if his Xilonen is a dps or not her C2 can make her flexible already on all none-geo or geo teams
2-Since in the open world this boss is not really that strong, he can easily beat this with his whaled team without even knowing the mechanic
idk it makes me laugh at first but also pisses me as well, I felt like having mixed feeling here 🤣
I am f2p and haven't killed a single one
How is your xilonen lvl 90 if u dont even know her boss works?
You just have to kill the boss before it goes into that phase. I have never seen that mechanic before this event as well.
I was also very surprised how difficult this event was, like insane but so fun XDDD Also is it just me or the event got more difficult recently? XDDD
This is so funny to see you don't know the new Natalan boss mechanism XXDDD Use your Xiloen to climb up to the pilar and attack XDDD
lol imagine being a whale and this EVENT (not even a MODE) is hard for you. That would be tragic
Bro use NILOU😭
genshin players when they can't buy/no life their way through content and actually have to be good at the game😮
Time-gated events are not hard at all.
They need to stop this trend, I'm already sick of it.
However, this event was fun.
The problem is that other type of events aren't really much better.
For example, if enemies hit hard, then the current crop of hydro hp scalers have a big advantage, and certain other characters like Zhongli or Dehya can trivialize it, while glass cannons will die. And then people complain (like they did with double consecrated beasts). Dodge or die mechanics, sure, appealing to WuWa players, but not a guy playing on a potato phone with a lot of lag. Trivial to get rewards but the points keep counting mean the points serve no purpose for most people, barring those that want to compete with others. Like, ooh, I got 20k points in the last one of those type events. Was boring, though, because I could barely land one melee hit on a mob before it died.
There's also a lot of variance between accounts. A long term player who has spent money is going to be a drastically different level than a newer player. And the gap between those who vertically invest (which typically involves spending) is getting bigger and bigger, thanks to constellations having more impact and the new signatures being much more niche and impactful.
Short of Genshin changing how it handles events (require multiple runs to get max rewards, make progress at certain checkpoints, keeps getting harder as you pass each checkpoint) there's no ideal solution. And since Genshin wants a low play time per day requirement, that's just not going to happen.
Wow are you just not gonna play wurthrring waves
Like are you serious I want more wuwa
Insane
all the bosses were easy with my c6r1 top 1% Dehya
she doesn't die - so the bosses doing a lot of dmg don't matter & her being c6 means the stage buffs don't matter - don't need them