Shalom, The Passover occurred during a full moon, for Hashem had the children of Israel traveling by night, and day. Am Yisrael chai, Baruch haba b'shem Adonai! Be well and be Blessed! A fellow sojourner
I have been in this life on this earth for a long, long time and have learnt many things. One thing I know for absolute certain: if a thing is true or if a thing is false has nothing whatever to do with who believes it/who does not. Your belief has nothing whatever to do with it. Your belief cannot change the fact of the thing. Truth is itself, falsity is itself, and what you believe about it will never change it to what it isn't.
Acts 5:38 and 39 - 38So in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone. Let them go! For if their purpose or endeavor is of human origin, it will fail. 39But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them. You may even find yourselves fighting against God.”
1Then יהושע spoke to the crowds and to His taught ones, 2saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh. 3Therefore, whatever they say to you to guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do.
Didn’t Monte believe on a Thursday death while (I think) Zadok calendar has Passover always on Tuesday? Three days and three nights after Tuesday? Just wondering how this fits in all that?
Hello Monte, when you came out with Zadok calendar so close to the spring Feasts, it created a crisis for me because I didn't know about this Zadok stuff, and basically had to take a crash course on the subject to figure out what to do about the Feasts. That was a blessing as I learned enough that 1. I am not going to follow Zadok. And 2. I learned that the day isn't from evening to evening but it's from morning to morning ( I even had to draw up my own calendar as there isn't one around that has Days beginning in the morning. There are only a couple of times where you are to observe a feast on an evening. So the Sabbath begins in the morning. Thanks Monte, I am not going to change calendars and now I observe the day from morning to morning. This never would have happened without your change in calendar which caused me to search this stuff out, (which I purposely avoided doing until this topic forced it as I never wanted to do a calendar study because I was just happy to follow along). May the Lord bless You.
LLM unafraid to tackle the difficult and controversial topics. The LORD bless you all for that! This may well be the final issue that distinguishes who the 'elect' (or most elect) will be. Emet is a central foundational characteristic of the most elect. The LORD promised us that the Ruach HaEmet would lead us into ALL TRUTH. John 16:13 (NKJV) However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
I am honestly shocked that the detail of the aviv was downplayed like it is a suggestion and not a commandment. Then the part about people looking for it in ditches was golden. There are serious people looking for the aviv barley in the land and sighting the new moon.
Ya know, there are people who believe in it, and others don't. You are free to believe as you do, but to slam others for not believing as you do isn't right. I'm sure there is hardly anyone I fully believe in, with the exception of Yah, Yeshua and The Ruach HaKodesh. Have you heard the proverb, even a fool is thought to be wise when he doesn't open his mouth? Don't slam another brother when you don't know for sure, as he may not either. Someday we all will know truth from Yeshua.
In other words, you are free to believe as you do, but why get bent out of shape when someone doesn't believe as you? If you have a comment to make, write and ask Monte, so he will know. I'm sure he doesn't want to turn this into a argument. Shalom
@@HerbertPrince we are commanded in Duet. 16:1 to guard the month of the Aviv. It’s comical to me that you would even try to frame this as a matter of some believing in it or not. It’s literally a commandment. Have you ever heard the proverb “The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall.-10:8).
@@JMEight8 I'm not perfect, I stand corrected. If you had asked me yesterday, I would have told you, 'Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken'. Seriously, thank you for sharing with me. Shalom
If we are to be witnesses to unbelieving Jews by demonstrating Yeshua was/is their Passover, how does telling them they are using the wrong calendar make the death-burial-resurrection relationship plausible?
Monte, have you had personal enounters with the Lord, whether you saw Him appear once or more or been taken to Heaven once or more? A lot in your audience and from the tribe of Judah have. 🤔😯😊😎
Now that we have just convinced a congregation of Sunday people they should observe Passover/UnlBread/First Fruits instead of Easter, how do we now tell them, "Oops, sorry, wrong calendar" ?? We've now painted ourselves into a corner.
So, I always thought Passover occurred on a full moon. The Zadok calendar had Passover on April 2 this year. On that date the moon was entering its 4th quarter. Can someone elaborate? I am terribly confused.
It's very easy to disagree everyone at all times can find a reason to disagree with anything they disagreed with Yeshua even though he was standing right in front of them and did the miracles that Moses said he would do.
Follow YHVH GUARD THE AVIV AND HIS COMMANDS ZADOK WAS NOT GIVEN TO MOSHE OR ANYONE TO FOLLOW IN THE SCRIPTURES… Monte has yet to Prove these things by Torah Scriptures
I understand wanting to be Biblically accurate. However, God Himself gave the authority to make these judgements to the Sanhedrin as the Supreme court over Israel. The Sanhedrin made the decision to follow the Hillel calendar prior to disbanding. Until the Sanhedrin reconvene, no one else has the Biblical right to make changes to which calendar we follow. I know we want to do what is Biblically correct, I get that, but this is one point that is being passed over, as I have heard no reference to this in last week's presentation nor this week's. Also you said we should believe that the group who were in Qumran doing the scrolls were Zadok priests because "they said that's who they were". Maybe they were but you can call an apple a carrot but that doesn't make it so. I really hope you will consider the issue of the Sanhedrin and then comment on it. As I said last week, I see this as a tool of the adversary to bring confusion and division. You are so accurate on so many things and this past year your ministry has been at its best. Isn't it just like our enemy to sneak into the camp and cause problems just when things are at their best?
As I've said before, we have listened to Monte/Eddie's teachings & such for over 20 years, however, there still is no info given by Monte or Eddie to connect the Zadok priesthood to the Qumran community, even the DSS does not come out & say they are Zadok, only an allusion to in the writings. Even Eddie agrees the Sadducees were Zadok but disregards the fact they still served in the temple, instead promotes the extra-Biblical DSS. I respect Monte/Eddie, but, to just come out and say YHVH has revealed to me something, I sit in Moses' seat, so listen to me. (Yes Eddie says he sits in Moses' seat in another video about DSS calendar). This calendar is the DSS calendar and not proven to be a Zadok calendar, and, the current calendar has not been proven to be a Babylonian calendar, only connected by the names of the months, as is todays American/World calendar. How would we connect with each other if we used another calendar? Where did the disciples go to keep the feasts, the temple or Qumran? If they went to Qumran, then they disobeyed YHVH, correct? Just food for thought. Being a Berean is to study, ask & study.🤠
Josephus Antiquities 18:19 talking about the Essenes. They send, it is true, their offerings to the temple, but they bring no sacrifices, because they so greatly prefer their own way of purifying and sanctifying themselves; and, for fear of defilement by taking part with the rest of the people, they keep away from the common sanctuary, and make their sacrifices apart surrounded only by the initiated. The only reason they could preform their own sacrifices is because their leadership were sons of Zadok. The Essene Gate in Jerusalem leads to the Essene quarter of Jerusalem. The upper room of Yeshua's last Passover was in the Essene Quarter. This is how the Last Supper can be a Passover, while the lunar Passover was later the same week.
@@williamb8394 There is no proof connecting the Zadok priesthood with the DSS calendar, so calling it the Zadok calendar is incorrect. There were Zadok priests serving in the temple under the calendar of that day.
Well Gunny... You know, what's kind of funny about Zechariah the Priest? We learn something about him in: Luke 1:5 and 6 - 5In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah, and whose wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron. 6 Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord. Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord. Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord. Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord. Zechariah, beyond a shadow of doubt, was using the SAME calendar as the rest of the priests in the Temple were... And Zechariah was walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord. Can one "walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord." and be apostate using a "Babylonian calendar" that confuses the Feast Days? I was born on A day... But that day was not yesterday... And yes, I might have fallen off the turnip truck, but I executed a perfect, textbook PLF...
I am trying to get through jubilee ch 1. I see God dictating this to Moses. And I love the book of Enoch and the fact that the church rejects it is why I dug in and read it. Anything the church rejects I read
It's strange the you use the term "the church"... Because this is what the Roman Catholic Church calls itself... And there is a REASON that the Books of the Apocrypha were taken out of the Protestant Canon... It is because the Roman Catholic Church supported LEAVING THEM in the Bible! "In a counter-Reformation move, the Roman Catholic church at the Council of Trent (1546) made an official declaration that the Apocrypha was henceforth to be regarded as Scripture. So, despite the controversial and mixed status of the Apocrypha throughout the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic church made their view official, creating a division with Protestants over this issue that continues to this day." Here are just a few Catholic Doctrines that were taken from the Apocrypha off the top of my head: From the Book of Maccabees 1. Understanding of the efficaciousness of praying for the dead. 2. Indulgences As found in: Maccabees 12:43 through 46 - 43 Then he took up a collection from all of his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this, he acted in a suitable and honorable way, guided by his belief in the resurrection.[a] 44 For if he had not expected those who had fallen to rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. 45 However, if he was focusing on the splendid reward reserved for those whose death was marked by godliness, his thought was holy and devout. 46 Therefore, he had this expiatory sacrifice offered for the dead so that they might be delivered from their sin. (from the New Catholic Bible) Concerning the state of purgatory and Maccabees, Protestants wholly reject purgatory and they do so because they say it's only in Maccabees, which they also reject. But when Jesus says in His parable about repayment to the last penny, that also informs the Catholic understanding of what purgatory is. The Apocrypha is the name used for the extra-biblical writings that are contained in the Catholic Bible. They are the books of Tobit, Judith, I and II Maccabees, the Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), and Baruch. They also entail chapters added to the book of Daniel, chapter 13, the story “Susanna” and chapter 14 the account of “Bel and the Dragon”, and “The Song of the Three Young Men” inserted into the third chapter. The book of Esther is also expanded by 107 verses. By inserting these additions into the Bible, the Catholic Church has contaminated and adulterated the Written Word of God as our sole authority. This fits well within the Roman Catholic system because the Catholic Church does not rest in the written Word as its final authority. The apostle Paul in the book of Romans states: What advantage then hath the Jew?…Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God (Romans 3:1-2). Historically, the Jews have never accepted anything more than the canonical books of the Old Testament; they have refused to combine the books of the Apocrypha with the oracles of God. The Apostle Paul also writes to Titus: Titus 1:14 - Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. What "Jewish fables" do you suppose the Apostle Paul was speaking of? But, I do agree with the assertion, "Anything the church rejects I read" as well as the inverse... Now, you know that actually leaves out the Books of the Apocrypha... Do a little study on the Council of Trent... Seven deuterocanonical books were added at the Council of Trent (1546) in order to justify Catholic doctrinal inventions... But, if you insist on digging your way down the rabbit hole of reading the non-canonical books, be forewarned... Sooner or later you're going to run into a hornet's nest...
Dan, we leave to where we last celebrated Sukkot, or where they teach the greater exodus. A few years ago I spoke with the person in charge of the camp in Georgia but close to South Carolina, sharing with her about the greater exodus. She said that she had never heard of it. If you've never been before, I would suggest you find out about Sukkot from Lion and Lamb Ministries, and consider going. It was about 1050 miles for me one way. You will enjoy being together in the camp for 8 days with like-minded believers.
Abba-Yah is going to give you that information when it's time... You might even be "Zaptured" like Phillip was... (Acts 8:26) If we look at the Book of Exodus, there was no mention of Israel "going to where they last Sukkoted"... They were assembled and led by YeHoVaH... There are a lot of people who "think" they have all the answers... Just like they were in the Days of Yeshua... Everything happened exactly the way it was written, but nothing like what people thought... I'm not telling you that HerbertPrince is wrong, but I'm not going to tell you that he is right either... The way Monte explains it, If you are "late" getting to their Sukkot site, you're going to get "left behind"... Yah knows how to take care and protect His People... Know and trust in that...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 The way that Monte puts it, is when they left Egypt, the first place they camped was called Sukkot. They couldn't have camped there before, being they had never been. Monte has explained this many times, it's just those who are new to his channel or teachings, may have never heard where we are to go. Myself, being I have had medical issues in my past, have only been able to go twice, and to two different places. The last one I went to, some had never heard of the greater exodus teaching. The local congregation, about an hour from where I currently live, don't particularly like Monte, even though they first told me that Monte traveled there to help them get established. Two of their main elders were even at Monte's 2019 Sukkot in Oklahoma, as I had called them from Sukkot 2020 when I went. I have learned quite a bit from Monte in the past 12 years, as I like the way he teaches.
@@HerbertPrince I know a LOT of folks who are not able to travel because of age, health issues and finances... (sometimes all of these) Yet these are some of the strongest believers I know... They are not able to sleep in a tent, let alone travel hundreds of miles to do so... Are these people just going to have to suffer or die? One of Monte's teachings actually alludes to this... I believe this "Greater Exodus" will be more supernatural than most perceive... We will walk and not get weary, run and not get faint, shoes will not wear out... For the record, I also like Monte and his teachings... But I have listened to a few things he teaches and I truly wonder where he got it from, because I've never read it in the Bible or some of the historical documents I've researched... And I've even asked him where he got this information from... I got no answer... I know one thing for certain, no one has everything right... (Certainly not me either) In my learning and moving away from "the church", I have seen so much division and strife... I have no "local congregation" but fellowship online mostly... This along with my own rag tag ministry financed and supported by what Yah puts in my back pocket... Shalom and may Abba-Yah Bless and keep you...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Yes, I've been around L&L long enough to hear Monte talk about Yah's supernatural power being poured out in the greater exodus. I have a 2020 Winnebago Spyder toy hauler that I took to Sukkot 2020, a bumper pull, but between going back and the following year, I cut off the bumper hitch, and built a long gooseneck hitch, and built it tall enough so I could walk under it. Replaced the electric jack with a 36" long hydraulic cylinder and a 12 volt hydraulic pump & reservoir, as it would probably lift 30,000 pounds or more with ease, and replaced the single lead acid battery with (3) Optima Blue Top Marine gel batteries, as it came with 200 watts solar power & a 3.5K Onan generator. Now that I have an amputated leg, I'm not able to use it, but am still making payments to the bank. I didn't have time to clean out the fridge, so it has turned black inside and probably needs to be replaced. But I can no longer use the shower. Replaced the stove/ oven combo with a single induction cook top commercial unit. Had just replaced the cheap China 16" tires with a set of 5 Goodyears. Was considering selling it. It pulls so much better than the bumper hitch. Got it specifically for the greater exodus. I was once a certified TIG welder/ fabricator for many years traveling the country.
The book of Enoch was written by four authors over 400 years. No one knows who they are. They certainly aren’t Enoch. The book of Enoch declares Enoch to be the son of man not Yeshua. People are using the book of Enoch to disprove the Bible… Not good
If Messianics are Jews who believe Jesus was the Messiah why don't they worship on Sunday as the other Christians do in remembrance of the day Jesus resurrected?
The REAL question is WHY don't "Christians" obey the Commandment of GOD to rest on the Sabbath? This day was blessed and set apart by GOD at creation (Genesis 2:2-3). Later on, it was instituted as the sign of the everlasting covenant between Elohim and His people, a sign that He sets them apart. an everlasting sign (Exodus 31:13-17, Ezekiel 20:12-20). Sabbath-keeping is one of the Ten Words of the Covenant, standing forever, settled forever in heaven. founded forever (Psalms 89:34, Psalms 1 1 1:8-9, Psalms 1 19:89). And, let's point out the following: 1. יֵשׁוּעַ (Jesus) kept the Sabbath (Luke 4:16, John 1 5:10), and the women who were taught by Him still kept it at the time of Messiah's burial (Luke 23:56). 2. Paul kept it (Acts 13:14. Acts 13:4244, Acts 17:2, Acts 18:4 and 18:11). 3. Ludia and the women kept it (Acts 16:13). 4. In Hebrews 4:9 we are again reminded of the necessity of keeping the Sabbath. 5. Finally: At the end of the age (Isaiah 66), we read in verse 23 that the Sabbath shall still be kept. The Commandments of GOD are STILL expected to be kept by Believers in Messiah even in the Book of Revelation: Scripture #1 Revelation 12:17 - And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and hold to the testimony of Jesus Christ. Scripture #2 Revelation 14:12 - Here is the patience of the saints; here are those WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and the faith of Jesus. Scripture #3 Revelation 22:14 - Blessed are THOSE WHO DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. Meanwhile, WHY "Christians" keep Sunday as a "worship day" is explained by the harlot herself: All of us believe many things in regard to religion that we do not find in the Bible. For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the Commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the Church outside the Bible. -The Catholic Virginian, To Tell You The Truth,” Vol. 22, No. 49 (Oct. 3, 1947). ... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify. -The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73. (The fact that "the church" believes it can "sanctify" anything would be laughable if it were not so blasphemous) Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.' -Catholic Record, September 1, 1923. It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.-Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903. Protestants ... accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change... But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that ... in observing Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the Church, the pope.-Our Sunday Visitor, February 5th, 1950. Of course these two old quotations are exactly correct. The Catholic Church designated Sunday as the day for corporate worship and gets full credit - or blame - for the change. -This Rock, The Magazine of Catholic Apologetics and Evangelization, p.8, June 1997 We ought to obey GOD and not men... (Acts 5:19) Does that answer your question? If not... Perhaps you can do a little study on the so-called "church fathers" to see how they apostatized the worship of the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the only begotten Son... You can start with 3 John 1:9... Then look up: The Council of Nicea, The Council of Trent and just for kicks, look up a guy named Marcion... If you haven't figured out the truth by then, Go back and read your Scriptures from the front of the Book... Then see how poorly most of the "Christian" doctrines fare against the TRUTH of the WORD...
The Disciples Kept the Sabbath 85 Times in The Book of Acts There are many scriptures verifying the Sabbath day being the 7th day of the week. All throughout the ‘New Testament’, the first day of the week is called “The first day of the week” and the 7th day of the week is called “The Sabbath”. This fact alone should prove when the Sabbath truly is. Many well-meaning Christians say that they observe the Sabbath on the first day of the week, called “Sunday” because that is the day that our Savior rose from the dead. However, would it not make more sense to rest when he rested in the grave and to begin working again when he arose to prepare a place for us? Either way, let us examine the pattern of the disciples after Yeshua’s resurrection in the book of Acts to determine what day that they attended Sabbath Services and what day they expected others to observe. We will keep a count of how many times the 7th day is observed vs. how many times the first day of the week was observed. We see one example in Acts 17:1… Acts 17:1 (NKJV) Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. 2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and demonstrating that the Messiah had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and [saying], “This Yeshua whom I preach to you is the Messiah.” 4 And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas. Here we see that Paul went to a Sabbath service three times, where there were both Jews and Greeks. The scripture also mentions that this was a regular custom of Paul. Was this also the custom of Yeshua the Messiah? Luke 4:16 - So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read Paul once said, “imitate me, as I imitate the Messiah” in 1 Corinthians 11, so Paul would be doing what He did, observe the sabbath on the seventh day. And we are supposed to be doing what Paul did, walking as our Savior walked (1John 2:6 - He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.) Here we can see that in Acts 17, which is said to be 22 years after Yeshua’s death and resurrection, the disciples were attending Sabbath services with the Jewish people on the seventh day of the week. In no place do we see Paul or any other disciple teaching them that they should come back the next day and join them for a ‘first day of the week’ service. Rather, they went to three Sabbath services where there were both Jews and Greeks present. Thus, the doctrine that says the Jews have their day (the 7th day) and the Gentiles have their day (the 1st day) is foreign to scripture. Some would argue that Paul was only at the synagogue because that is where he would find people to witness to, not to observe the Sabbath. But scripture itself does not say that. This is an assumption that those who refuse the simplicity of the scriptures or justify the traditions of men want to make, not one that the scriptures actually teach. Again, the Seventh Day is called “The Sabbath Day” in this passage. So let’s see where we are at now... Seventh Day - 3 First day - 0 Another example is found in Acts 13… Acts 13:13 - Now when Paul and his party set sail from Paphos, they came to Perga in Pamphylia; and John, departing from them, returned to Jerusalem. 14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down. 15 And after the reading of the Law and the Prophets, the rulers of the synagogue sent to them, saying, “Men [and] brethren, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.” So here is another example where Paul and the other disciples came to the Synagogue in Perga to attend the Sabbath Service. Seventh day - 4 First day - 0 A little later in the chapter, after Paul shares Yeshua with them we see that the Gentiles were quite interested. Acts 13:42 - So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. Now here is a perfect situation for Paul to tell these Gentiles “Hey just come back tomorrow, we keep the Sabbath on the first day now!” But we don’t see this written anywhere in scripture. Acts 13:43 - Now when the congregation had broken up, many of the Jews and devout proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of Yahweh 44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of Yahweh. So here is the fifth time that the disciples attended a Sabbath service on the day that Yahweh sanctified at creation. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage. Seventh day - 5 First day - 0
Here is another example in Acts 16… Acts 16:11 - Therefore, sailing from Troas, we ran a straight course to Samothrace, and the next [day] came to Neapolis, 12 and from there to Philippi, which is the foremost city of that part of Macedonia, a colony. And we were staying in that city for some days. 13 And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met [there]. It was the custom of the Jews of that day for the rabbi to shut down the synagogue if there were not at least 10 men that would show up for the Sabbath meeting. This could very well be why there were women meeting by the riverside for prayer. Nevertheless, we see that the disciples sought a place to meet for the Sabbath and they did. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath Day” in this passage. Seventh day - 6 First day - 0 Acts 18:1 - After these things Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth. 2 And he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla (because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome); and he came to them. 3 So, because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked; for by occupation, they were tentmakers. 4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks. So, we see that he worked on the other days as a tentmaker, but on the Sabbath He was not. Does this not demonstrate that He was keeping the Sabbath, as he had done his entire life? Here again we see that both Jews and Greeks are in the synagogue and on the Sabbath. Paul among them, attending the Sabbath services. The interesting thing about this verse is that instead of the scripture saying that they attended only one or three sabbath services, it says that he was there every Sabbath persuading both Jews and Greeks. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage so we know that we can at least count one. Let’s do that.. Seventh day - 7 First day - 0 Now if Paul was in Corinth and was reasoning in the synagogue every Sabbath, all we have to do is find out how long he stayed in Corinth to discover how many Sabbaths he actually attended. Let’s look further... Acts 18:5 - When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews [that] Yeshua [is] the Messiah. 6 But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook [his] garments and said to them, “Your blood [be] upon your [own] heads; I [am] clean. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.” 7 And he departed from there and entered the house of a certain [man] named Justus, [one] who worshiped God, whose house was next door to the synagogue. 8 Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Master with all his household. And many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed and were baptized. 9 Now the Master spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, “Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not keep silent; 10 “for I am with you, and no one will attack you to hurt you; for I have many people in this city.” 11 And he continued [there] a year and six months, teaching the word of Elohim among them. A year and six months! Finally, the ruler of the synagogue was converted to believe in Yeshua and Paul was there a year and six months! So, the scripture says that Paul was there every Sabbath and that he was there for a year and six months. If we counted this by the Gregorian calendar that would give us 52 Sabbaths in a year plus 26 Sabbaths in the following six months, giving us a a total of 78 Sabbaths! Now let’s add this to our present total: Seventh Day - 85 First day - 0
So, we can see that the disciples attended a Sabbath service 85 times in the book of Acts alone. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage. First Day of the Week, “Sunday” How many times do we see them meeting together on the first day of the week, commonly called “Sunday?” Some would cite one example in Acts 20. Let’s examine the text… Acts 20:6 - But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days. 7 Now on the first [day] of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight. Here we see an example of the disciples gathering together on the first day of the week. There is no mention of a Sabbath being observed in this verse. Nowhere is this day called “The Sabbath”. In fact, we know that Paul was ready to depart the next day. According to verse 7, Paul spoke to them a message because for this very reason. Now some would say that coming together to ‘break bread’ constitutes a meeting that includes the observance of partaking in Yeshua’s body, commonly called the “eucharist” or “communion.” However, this is not true in light of other scripture: Acts 2:44 - Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. 46 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, 47 praising Yahweh and having favor with all the people. And Yahweh added to the assembly daily those who were being saved. According to this scripture, breaking bread was not an uncommon thing to do on a daily basis. It was one of the customs in those days to eat their ‘daily bread’. Even in Yeshua’s prayer He said “Give us this day our daily bread “. So, we cannot confirm that this scripture in Acts 20 is a Sabbath day observance. In fact, nowhere does it say that the first day of the week is the Sabbath. But the 7th day of the week is always called “the Sabbath” in the ‘New Testament.’ Unless you don’t believe in the New Testament, you would have to conclude that this was not a Sabbath meeting. So, what was it really? Many may not realize that in scripture, a new day begins at sundown. This would mean that at sundown on ‘Saturday’, the first day of the week begins. Once the Sabbath ends on “Saturday night,” this would have been the appropriate time to cook food and “break bread” because cooking was not done on the Sabbath (Exodus 16:23). Thus, it is most likely an ‘after Sabbath’ fellowship meal where Paul continued to speak until midnight because he wanted to get as much teaching in as possible before he departed the next morning. Nevertheless, in spite of 85 other examples of where Paul and the other disciples were participating in Sabbath observance on the 7th day of the week, some will hang onto this one verse so that they may continue their tradition. I say tradition because this verse proves nothing, as it could just as easily been an after Sabbath fellowship meal. 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 - Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come. Some would suggest that this was Paul instructing them to “pass the plate” during “Sunday church services” so that there be no collections when he comes for the Galatian congregations. However, since the Sabbath ends at sundown on “Saturday,” if everyone was keeping the Ten Commandments as written, and properly observing the Sabbath on the 7th day, the proper time for handling monies would have been on “Saturday night” when the Sabbath had ended. Thus, they would have cooked their meals and handled orders of business after Sabbath, on the first day of the week. Nowhere in this verse does it say they were keeping the Sabbath on the first day of the week, or that the Sabbath had been changed, or they were holding services on this day. One would have to inject these thoughts into the text, based on one’s assumptions and traditions, rather than getting these thoughts the from the text itself. If one wants to protest the 85-count tally by saying Paul was only going to the synagogue to preach, and not to keep the Sabbath, that is also an attempt to inject those thoughts into the text, based on one’s assumptions and traditions, rather than from the text itself. The truth is, for one to remove one of the Ten Commandments from its rightful place among the Ten, there should be a very, very clear directive somewhere in scripture. The burden of proof is not on one who continues the keep the Sabbath, the burden on proof is on the one who makes the claim that the Sabbath has been changed or abolished. You can search the scriptures from Genesis to Revelations and you will not find a single verse that says His Sabbath was changed to a different day. There is not a single verse that tells us that the Ten Commandments are not to be kept. And there is not a single verse that prophesied either of these two events occurring! In fact, the scriptures declare the seventh day to be the Sabbath in the Ten Commandments, in the words of the prophets, in the writings about Yeshua, and in the Acts of the apostles. It continues to speak of the Sabbath being observed by Jews and Gentiles in prophecies of the future Kingdom. For any who would claim that Colossians 2:14-16 abolishes the Sabbath, please read this study demonstrating otherwise. Therefore, that final tally will remain at: Seventh Day - 85 | First day - 0
There is also historical evidence that the early disciples kept the Sabbath on the true day.: First, we must understand that the Emperor Constantine enforced keeping the Sabbath on the first day of the week, which he calls “the venerable day of the sun.” Venerable means ‘commanding respect,’ suggesting the sun deity should be respected (sadly). The text of Constantine’s Sunday Law of 321 A.D. is: “One the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.” This forced Sabbath may explain why some groups were observing both the 7th day of the week as the Sabbath, but then also meeting on the first day of the week. “The people of Constantinople, and almost everywhere, assemble together on the Sabbath, as well as on the first day of the week, which custom is never observed at Rome or at Alexandria.” Ecclesiastical History, vii, 19, in A Select Library of Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2nd Series, Vol. 2, p. 390 [written soon after A.D. 415]. This is interesting, in that only the Christians of Rome and Constantinople forsook the Sabbath day while other churches continued keeping it. Constantine must have had quite an influence over the Roman Christians/Catholics. “The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews. Therefore, the Christians for a long time together, did keep their conventions on the Sabbath, in which some portions of the Law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council.” The Whole Works of Jeremey Taylor, Vol. IX, p416 (R. Heber’s Edition, Vol.XII, p.416) “The ancient Christians were very careful in the observation of Saturday, or the seventh day. It is plain that all the Oriental churches, and the greatest part of the world, observed the Sabbath as a festival…Athanasius likewise tells us that they held religious assemblies on the Sabbath, not because they were infected with Judaism, but to worship [Yeshua], the [Master] of the Sabbath, Epiphanius says the same.” Antiquities of the Christian Church, Vol. II, Book XX, chap. 3, Sec. 1, 66.1137, 1138 “Ambrose, the celebrated bishop of Milan, said that when he was in Milan he observed Saturday, but when in Rome observed Sunday. This gave rise to the proverb ‘When you are in Rome, do as Rome does,’ Heylyn, The History of the Sabbath, 1613 Later, those who observed the Sabbath were persecuted and killed by the Catholic church. When the Jesuit St. Francis Xavier arrived in India, he immediately requested to the pope to set up the Inquisition there. “The Jewish wickedness” of which Xavier complained was evidently the Sabbath-keeping among those native Christians as we shall see in our next quotation. When one of these Sabbath-keeping Christians was taken by the Inquisition he was accused of having *Judaized*; which means having conformed to the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law; such as not eating pork, hare, fish without scales, of having attended the solemnization of the Sabbath.” Account of the Inquisition at Goa, Dellon, p.56. London, 1815 “Of an hundred persons condemned to be burnt as Jews, there are scarcely four who profess that faith at their death; the rest exclaiming and protesting to their last gasp that they are Christians, and have been so during their whole lives.” Ibid p.64 Today, some of the leading Baptists even have admitted that the Sunday Sabbath isn’t in the scriptures: “There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not on Sunday…It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week…. where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament. Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history as a religious day, as we learn from the Christian Fathers and other sources. But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of a sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!” Dr. Edward Hiscox, author of The Baptist Manual
With all respect Monte, I do believe you are driving a wedge between messianics if they don't have your calendar, saying they don't know the greater exodus if they don't want your calendar. I really respect you and your ministry, but I feel you are pushing many people away.
Its ok to push people away. This isnt the church. Imagine being in Monte's position? Every assembly leader in the world wants to have a large congregation. The reasons for that should be obvious. Monte was tested by Hashem to choose HIM or worldly things. Monte chose Hashem. Well done Monte!
I was out at Sukkot 2020 with Lion and Lamb Ministries. During one of the midrash services near the end that morning, one man asked the question about what he could do to help. He said that he was very wealthy. Monte replied to keep him (Monte) in his prayers. I wonder how many other pastors and leaders would have answered this?
@@Old-Path Brother, during Sukkot 2020 everyone knew me by Cuz. Tall and had problems with my left leg, which is now amputated, as I learned to live with the pain, but infection was a problem.
What we just throw out what YHVH GAVE TO MOSHE IN EXODUS 12??? “And יהוה spoke to Mosheh and to Aharon in the land of Mitsrayim, saying, This new moon is the beginning of new moons for you, it is the first new moon of the year for you. “And you shall guard this word as a law for you and your sons, forever. “And it shall be, when you come to the land which יהוה gives you, as He promised, that you shall guard this service. There is one Torah for the native-born and for the stranger who sojourns among you. And all the children of Yisra’ĕl did as יהוה commanded Mosheh and Aharon, so they did.” Shemoth (Exodus) 12:1-2, 24-25, 49-50 TS2009 We are suppose to Guard the Aviv the commands of YHVH…Moshe was commanded to follow YHVHS CALENDAR NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE IT…Amein
Its my personal opinion that the Hillel or Hillel 2 calendar is incorrect. First i would like to defend Monte, in that he is being accused of making up his own calendar. This is absurd. This calendar came from scripture. Its referenced in Enock and well as the deadseas scrolls. If your in the camp that the cannon is your only source of scripture and everything else should be thrown away, then we should just agree to disagree. Because this isnt going to go anywhere. I like to study prophecy, that's kind of my thing. The 1260 days, 3.5 years, 42 months in revelation 11:2-3 and the 1290 days/1335 days in Daniel 12:11 led me to believe that at the end of the age, or by Gods calendar it would be measured differently than it is now. Its easy to deduce 30 day months or 360 day years from this. I later learned of Enock which seemed to reference the same calendar. Both are very orderly, organized and easy to follow calendars. Some say the current hillel 2 calendar was the same calendar followed since the beginning of history. I disagree with this. The jews themselves say this calendar was created to get all the Jews world wide on the same calendar. Because they were all following different calendars. Its also an incredibly complicated calendar. Maybe im not giving Abraham enough credit here, but i dont see this calendar as being easy for a nomad living in biblical times. I cant figure it out now. Im no calendar expert. If anyone says they are you probably shouldnt believe them anyway. Im not saying the Zadok calendar is the end all be all. I just find it more right than the Hillel calendar per scripture. Everyones first reaction to change is to throw a fit. Sit back, go through the scripture, and decide for yourself what you should do. Its my opinion that Monte made the correct choice. You can follow any calendar you want. Keep the commandments or dont. Thats between you and Hashem.
First and foremost, I defend the Scriptures... If what is being taught or claimed doesn't line up with Scriptures, I'm NOT going to defend the person, regardless of who they are... "This calendar came from scripture." Please give me the "Book, Chapter and Verse" for this claim. I keep asking people for the "Book, Chapter and Verse" and all they continue to give me is: "Its referenced in Enock and well as the deadseas scrolls." (Err... Enoch) NEITHER of these are Scripture... Additionally, please read the disclaimer from the Wesley Center Online (one of Eddie Chumney's website links) concerning The Non-Canonized Books of Apocrypha: Noncanonical Literature Documents to Aid Students and Scholars in Biblical Interpretation including Introductions and Summaries of Many Noncanonical Works Non-Canonical Literature Disclaimer Most apocryphal works have been considered fictional or of lesser value than the canonical works. The Wesley Center Online provides this literature, accurately scanned and edited, from a variety of public domain publications, and makes no truth claims for the literature's content. Non-Canonical Literature Disclaimer The Bible is an invaluable collection of sacred ancient texts, written and assembled over several hundreds of years by numerous authors. These texts were written to particular people living at a definite time and place who shared common experiences and knowledge. By studying similar literature that precedes and follows the biblical writings chronologically, students of the Bible are better prepared to discover the intended meaning. Apocryphal and pseudepigraphal literature was apparently intended either to supplement or supplant existing canonical literature. Many of the apocryphal gospels offer guesses as to what occurred during the so-called "missing years" of Jesus' life -- during his childhood or after his resurrection. Others attempt to provide support for later theological convictions -- both orthodox and heretical. Whether the information found in the apocryphal literature is factually correct or not is not necessarily important. These documents give interpreters valuable insight into what some Jews and Christians believed in various places at different times. So... You are claiming something to be true... That you CAN'T prove with the Scriptures... But, instead you cite books that "have been considered fictional or of lesser value than the canonical works." AND... Are described as: "Others attempt to provide support for later theological convictions -- both orthodox and heretical. Whether the information found in the apocryphal literature is factually correct or not is not necessarily important." All I want is for someone to SHOW ME what Scriptures (Book, Chapter and Verse) show this was the calendar that was used and that the one used during the time of Yeshua (which is what is claimed) is NOT a correct calendar... UNTIL someone can show me the TRUTH of the Scriptures that proves anything, I'm going to tell you to kick rocks... TOO MANY cults were started due to basing their doctrines from "Non-Biblical/Extra-Biblical" sources... The Catholics with their syncretizing of EVERY heathen abomination imaginable, infallible "popes" and 900 page extra-biblical Bible... The Mormons have their golden laser discs and infallible Joseph Smith, magic underwear and more demonic rites than you can shake a stick at... The Jehovah's Witnesses have Charles Taze Russell and a WHOLE mess of nonsense... Now here we have this... A doctrine that tells everybody they have been "following the wrong calendar" that is based on the barley being "aviv", the New Moon and the Sun... But instead the "REAL" truths can be found in these books that are not necessarily true and some bits of papyrus or animal hide ...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 I agree with you in that we should all follow the scriptures and no man. I came to the conclusion about the calendar before i ever heard it from Monte or anyone else. What Monte later said was in agreeance where i believe the Spirit was leading me. As far as scripture proving or disproving. That's a matter of perspective and how you interpert what you read in the scriptures. The Hillel 2 calendar isnt in the scriptures either. A lunar calendar is as well as a 360 day calendar. I respect your opinion and understand how you came to the conclusion you came to. I do think we should agree to disagree. Probably neither of us is right. Im ok with not being right and changing. I have been wrong in my view of scripture many times. Are you ok with being wrong?
@@bawbjusbawb6471 I would like to make one additional point. You say that you do not follow men but the scripture, which is very honorable and correct. Yet you say you accept the cannon as scripture but not the apocrypha. Wasnt it men who decided what would be in the cannon and what wouldnt? And wasnt it men who gave the opinion that the apocrypha "have been considered fictional or of lesser value than the canonical works."?
@@Old-Path "Are you ok with being wrong?" I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken... JK A wise man will receive rebuke and thank you... A fool will hate you... If the Holy Spirit or Yah shows me that I'm in error by not believing this calendar to be correct, You'll be the 2nd guy I thank..
Well. Have a nice Sabbath everyone. I’m with those who don’t agree with the Zadoc. There are those who explain well why to not the one to follow.
I always look forward to your Q&A. Thank you!
Fascinating episode, I really enjoyed it!! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!!🌎
Still a little confused by this change in calendars, but am listening and waiting on prompting from our Lord.
Keep studying. It will come sister!
Or brother
Daniel 7:25 warns us of the AC altering the seasons and the Law.
Adonai, please lead us into The Truth.
The zadok calendar is the only one that makes sense to me after researching all of them the last 2 years
Does it include the "Missing Day," that if one Really investigates the Bible one finds that indeed there is a "Missing Day!!"🤔😯😊😎
Shalom,
The Passover occurred during a full moon, for Hashem had the children of Israel traveling by night, and day.
Am Yisrael chai,
Baruch haba b'shem Adonai!
Be well and be Blessed!
A fellow sojourner
I have been in this life on this earth for a long, long time and have learnt many things. One thing I know for absolute certain: if a thing is true or if a thing is false has nothing whatever to do with who believes it/who does not. Your belief has nothing whatever to do with it. Your belief cannot change the fact of the thing. Truth is itself, falsity is itself, and what you believe about it will never change it to what it isn't.
Acts 5:38 and 39 - 38So in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone. Let them go! For if their purpose or endeavor is of human origin, it will fail. 39But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them. You may even find yourselves fighting against God.”
Sounds like the 4th Gospel and truly wrote it!
1Then יהושע spoke to the crowds and to His taught ones,
2saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh.
3Therefore, whatever they say to you to guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do.
A shout out to Ellen at the Messanic Market Place!! We love you Ellen!! You do a great job!! Shalom❤
I agree.
Didn’t Monte believe on a Thursday death while (I think) Zadok calendar has Passover always on Tuesday? Three days and three nights after Tuesday? Just wondering how this fits in all that?
About as well as from Good Friday to Resurrection Sunday fits into 3 days and 3 nights...
Hello Monte, when you came out with Zadok calendar so close to the spring Feasts, it created a crisis for me because I didn't know about this Zadok stuff, and basically had to take a crash course on the subject to figure out what to do about the Feasts. That was a blessing as I learned enough that 1. I am not going to follow Zadok. And 2. I learned that the day isn't from evening to evening but it's from morning to morning ( I even had to draw up my own calendar as there isn't one around that has Days beginning in the morning. There are only a couple of times where you are to observe a feast on an evening. So the Sabbath begins in the morning. Thanks Monte, I am not going to change calendars and now I observe the day from morning to morning. This never would have happened without your change in calendar which caused me to search this stuff out, (which I purposely avoided doing until this topic forced it as I never wanted to do a calendar study because I was just happy to follow along). May the Lord bless You.
LLM unafraid to tackle the difficult and controversial topics. The LORD bless you all for that! This may well be the final issue that distinguishes who the 'elect' (or most elect) will be. Emet is a central foundational characteristic of the most elect. The LORD promised us that the Ruach HaEmet would lead us into ALL TRUTH.
John 16:13 (NKJV) However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
I am honestly shocked that the detail of the aviv was downplayed like it is a suggestion and not a commandment. Then the part about people looking for it in ditches was golden. There are serious people looking for the aviv barley in the land and sighting the new moon.
Ya know, there are people who believe in it, and others don't. You are free to believe as you do, but to slam others for not believing as you do isn't right. I'm sure there is hardly anyone I fully believe in, with the exception of Yah, Yeshua and The Ruach HaKodesh. Have you heard the proverb, even a fool is thought to be wise when he doesn't open his mouth? Don't slam another brother when you don't know for sure, as he may not either. Someday we all will know truth from Yeshua.
@@HerbertPrince okay, help me understand your comment. “There are people who believe in it, and others don’t “. What are you talking about?
In other words, you are free to believe as you do, but why get bent out of shape when someone doesn't believe as you? If you have a comment to make, write and ask Monte, so he will know. I'm sure he doesn't want to turn this into a argument. Shalom
@@HerbertPrince we are commanded in Duet. 16:1 to guard the month of the Aviv. It’s comical to me that you would even try to frame this as a matter of some believing in it or not. It’s literally a commandment.
Have you ever heard the proverb “The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall.-10:8).
@@JMEight8 I'm not perfect, I stand corrected. If you had asked me yesterday, I would have told you, 'Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken'. Seriously, thank you for sharing with me. Shalom
And maybe Abba Father is shortening the time for the elect by putting us all on a more accurate calander as HE has promised?!
If we are to be witnesses to unbelieving Jews by demonstrating Yeshua was/is their Passover, how does telling them they are using the wrong calendar make the death-burial-resurrection relationship plausible?
This whole doctrine has got more holes than a sieve...
Monte, have you had personal enounters with the Lord, whether you saw Him appear once or more or been taken to Heaven once or more? A lot in your audience and from the tribe of Judah have. 🤔😯😊😎
Now that we have just convinced a congregation of Sunday people they should observe Passover/UnlBread/First Fruits instead of Easter, how do we now tell them, "Oops, sorry, wrong calendar" ??
We've now painted ourselves into a corner.
So, I always thought Passover occurred on a full moon. The Zadok calendar had Passover on April 2 this year. On that date the moon was entering its 4th quarter. Can someone elaborate? I am terribly confused.
No...
You're fine...
It's the calendar that's confused...
We don’t all agree with the Zadoc stuff.
It's very easy to disagree everyone at all times can find a reason to disagree with anything they disagreed with Yeshua even though he was standing right in front of them and did the miracles that Moses said he would do.
You agree or not it's not makes any difference...
Shabbat Shalom ❤
Follow YHVH GUARD THE AVIV AND HIS COMMANDS ZADOK WAS NOT GIVEN TO MOSHE OR ANYONE TO FOLLOW IN THE SCRIPTURES…
Monte has yet to Prove these things by Torah Scriptures
We also have two ears to balance what we hear.
I understand wanting to be Biblically accurate. However, God Himself gave the authority to make these judgements to the Sanhedrin as the Supreme court over Israel. The Sanhedrin made the decision to follow the Hillel calendar prior to disbanding. Until the Sanhedrin reconvene, no one else has the Biblical right to make changes to which calendar we follow. I know we want to do what is Biblically correct, I get that, but this is one point that is being passed over, as I have heard no reference to this in last week's presentation nor this week's.
Also you said we should believe that the group who were in Qumran doing the scrolls were Zadok priests because "they said that's who they were". Maybe they were but you can call an apple a carrot but that doesn't make it so.
I really hope you will consider the issue of the Sanhedrin and then comment on it. As I said last week, I see this as a tool of the adversary to bring confusion and division. You are so accurate on so many things and this past year your ministry has been at its best. Isn't it just like our enemy to sneak into the camp and cause problems just when things are at their best?
As I've said before, we have listened to Monte/Eddie's teachings & such for over 20 years, however, there still is no info given by Monte or Eddie to connect the Zadok priesthood to the Qumran community, even the DSS does not come out & say they are Zadok, only an allusion to in the writings. Even Eddie agrees the Sadducees were Zadok but disregards the fact they still served in the temple, instead promotes the extra-Biblical DSS. I respect Monte/Eddie, but, to just come out and say YHVH has revealed to me something, I sit in Moses' seat, so listen to me. (Yes Eddie says he sits in Moses' seat in another video about DSS calendar). This calendar is the DSS calendar and not proven to be a Zadok calendar, and, the current calendar has not been proven to be a Babylonian calendar, only connected by the names of the months, as is todays American/World calendar. How would we connect with each other if we used another calendar? Where did the disciples go to keep the feasts, the temple or Qumran? If they went to Qumran, then they disobeyed YHVH, correct? Just food for thought. Being a Berean is to study, ask & study.🤠
What is an intercalation week?
Josephus Antiquities 18:19 talking about the Essenes.
They send, it is true, their offerings to the temple, but they bring no sacrifices, because they so greatly prefer their own way of purifying and sanctifying themselves; and, for fear of defilement by taking part with the rest of the people, they keep away from the common sanctuary, and make their sacrifices apart surrounded only by the initiated.
The only reason they could preform their own sacrifices is because their leadership were sons of Zadok. The Essene Gate in Jerusalem leads to the Essene quarter of Jerusalem. The upper room of Yeshua's last Passover was in the Essene Quarter. This is how the Last Supper can be a Passover, while the lunar Passover was later the same week.
Enoch calendar
@@williamb8394 There is no proof connecting the Zadok priesthood with the DSS calendar, so calling it the Zadok calendar is incorrect. There were Zadok priests serving in the temple under the calendar of that day.
Well Gunny...
You know, what's kind of funny about Zechariah the Priest?
We learn something about him in:
Luke 1:5 and 6 - 5In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah, and whose wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron. 6 Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord.
Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord.
Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord.
Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord.
Zechariah, beyond a shadow of doubt, was using the SAME calendar as the rest of the priests in the Temple were...
And Zechariah was walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord.
Can one "walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord." and be apostate using a "Babylonian calendar" that confuses the Feast Days?
I was born on A day...
But that day was not yesterday...
And yes, I might have fallen off the turnip truck, but I executed a perfect, textbook PLF...
Haven’t we already harvested the Barley and the wheat almost ready?
Jacinda💖
I am trying to get through jubilee ch 1. I see God dictating this to Moses. And I love the book of Enoch and the fact that the church rejects it is why I dug in and read it. Anything the church rejects I read
It's strange the you use the term "the church"...
Because this is what the Roman Catholic Church calls itself...
And there is a REASON that the Books of the Apocrypha were taken out of the Protestant Canon...
It is because the Roman Catholic Church supported LEAVING THEM in the Bible!
"In a counter-Reformation move, the Roman Catholic church at the Council of Trent (1546) made an official declaration that the Apocrypha was henceforth to be regarded as Scripture. So, despite the controversial and mixed status of the Apocrypha throughout the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic church made their view official, creating a division with Protestants over this issue that continues to this day."
Here are just a few Catholic Doctrines that were taken from the Apocrypha off the top of my head:
From the Book of Maccabees
1. Understanding of the efficaciousness of praying for the dead.
2. Indulgences
As found in:
Maccabees 12:43 through 46 - 43 Then he took up a collection from all of his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this, he acted in a suitable and honorable way, guided by his belief in the resurrection.[a] 44 For if he had not expected those who had fallen to rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. 45 However, if he was focusing on the splendid reward reserved for those whose death was marked by godliness, his thought was holy and devout. 46 Therefore, he had this expiatory sacrifice offered for the dead so that they might be delivered from their sin. (from the New Catholic Bible)
Concerning the state of purgatory and Maccabees, Protestants wholly reject purgatory and they do so because they say it's only in Maccabees, which they also reject. But when Jesus says in His parable about repayment to the last penny, that also informs the Catholic understanding of what purgatory is.
The Apocrypha is the name used for the extra-biblical writings that are contained in the Catholic Bible. They are the books of Tobit, Judith, I and II Maccabees, the Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), and Baruch. They also entail chapters added to the book of Daniel, chapter 13, the story “Susanna” and chapter 14 the account of “Bel and the Dragon”, and “The Song of the Three Young Men” inserted into the third chapter. The book of Esther is also expanded by 107 verses. By inserting these additions into the Bible, the Catholic Church has contaminated and adulterated the Written Word of God as our sole authority. This fits well within the Roman Catholic system because the Catholic Church does not rest in the written Word as its final authority.
The apostle Paul in the book of Romans states:
What advantage then hath the Jew?…Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God (Romans 3:1-2).
Historically, the Jews have never accepted anything more than the canonical books of the Old Testament; they have refused to combine the books of the Apocrypha with the oracles of God.
The Apostle Paul also writes to Titus:
Titus 1:14 - Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
What "Jewish fables" do you suppose the Apostle Paul was speaking of?
But, I do agree with the assertion, "Anything the church rejects I read" as well as the inverse...
Now, you know that actually leaves out the Books of the Apocrypha...
Do a little study on the Council of Trent...
Seven deuterocanonical books were added at the Council of Trent (1546) in order to justify Catholic doctrinal inventions...
But, if you insist on digging your way down the rabbit hole of reading the non-canonical books, be forewarned...
Sooner or later you're going to run into a hornet's nest...
On the greater Exodus, from the U.S., where are we to leave to? Just leave the cities and go to the wilderness, or leave bound for Jerusalem?
Dan, we leave to where we last celebrated Sukkot, or where they teach the greater exodus. A few years ago I spoke with the person in charge of the camp in Georgia but close to South Carolina, sharing with her about the greater exodus. She said that she had never heard of it. If you've never been before, I would suggest you find out about Sukkot from Lion and Lamb Ministries, and consider going. It was about 1050 miles for me one way. You will enjoy being together in the camp for 8 days with like-minded believers.
Abba-Yah is going to give you that information when it's time...
You might even be "Zaptured" like Phillip was... (Acts 8:26)
If we look at the Book of Exodus, there was no mention of Israel "going to where they last Sukkoted"...
They were assembled and led by YeHoVaH...
There are a lot of people who "think" they have all the answers...
Just like they were in the Days of Yeshua...
Everything happened exactly the way it was written, but nothing like what people thought...
I'm not telling you that HerbertPrince is wrong, but I'm not going to tell you that he is right either...
The way Monte explains it, If you are "late" getting to their Sukkot site, you're going to get "left behind"...
Yah knows how to take care and protect His People...
Know and trust in that...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 The way that Monte puts it, is when they left Egypt, the first place they camped was called Sukkot. They couldn't have camped there before, being they had never been. Monte has explained this many times, it's just those who are new to his channel or teachings, may have never heard where we are to go. Myself, being I have had medical issues in my past, have only been able to go twice, and to two different places. The last one I went to, some had never heard of the greater exodus teaching. The local congregation, about an hour from where I currently live, don't particularly like Monte, even though they first told me that Monte traveled there to help them get established. Two of their main elders were even at Monte's 2019 Sukkot in Oklahoma, as I had called them from Sukkot 2020 when I went. I have learned quite a bit from Monte in the past 12 years, as I like the way he teaches.
@@HerbertPrince
I know a LOT of folks who are not able to travel because of age, health issues and finances... (sometimes all of these)
Yet these are some of the strongest believers I know...
They are not able to sleep in a tent, let alone travel hundreds of miles to do so...
Are these people just going to have to suffer or die?
One of Monte's teachings actually alludes to this...
I believe this "Greater Exodus" will be more supernatural than most perceive...
We will walk and not get weary, run and not get faint, shoes will not wear out...
For the record, I also like Monte and his teachings...
But I have listened to a few things he teaches and I truly wonder where he got it from, because I've never read it in the Bible or some of the historical documents I've researched...
And I've even asked him where he got this information from...
I got no answer...
I know one thing for certain, no one has everything right... (Certainly not me either)
In my learning and moving away from "the church", I have seen so much division and strife...
I have no "local congregation" but fellowship online mostly...
This along with my own rag tag ministry financed and supported by what Yah puts in my back pocket...
Shalom and may Abba-Yah Bless and keep you...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Yes, I've been around L&L long enough to hear Monte talk about Yah's supernatural power being poured out in the greater exodus. I have a 2020 Winnebago Spyder toy hauler that I took to Sukkot 2020, a bumper pull, but between going back and the following year, I cut off the bumper hitch, and built a long gooseneck hitch, and built it tall enough so I could walk under it. Replaced the electric jack with a 36" long hydraulic cylinder and a 12 volt hydraulic pump & reservoir, as it would probably lift 30,000 pounds or more with ease, and replaced the single lead acid battery with (3) Optima Blue Top Marine gel batteries, as it came with 200 watts solar power & a 3.5K Onan generator. Now that I have an amputated leg, I'm not able to use it, but am still making payments to the bank. I didn't have time to clean out the fridge, so it has turned black inside and probably needs to be replaced. But I can no longer use the shower. Replaced the stove/ oven combo with a single induction cook top commercial unit. Had just replaced the cheap China 16" tires with a set of 5 Goodyears. Was considering selling it. It pulls so much better than the bumper hitch. Got it specifically for the greater exodus. I was once a certified TIG welder/ fabricator for many years traveling the country.
People in the comments - all I know is that Abba Father always leads me back to L & L Ministries so...
The book of Enoch was written by four authors over 400 years. No one knows who they are. They certainly aren’t Enoch. The book of Enoch declares Enoch to be the son of man not Yeshua. People are using the book of Enoch to disprove the Bible… Not good
If Messianics are Jews who believe Jesus was the Messiah why don't they worship on Sunday as the other Christians do in remembrance of the day Jesus resurrected?
The REAL question is WHY don't "Christians" obey the Commandment of GOD to rest on the Sabbath?
This day was blessed and set apart by GOD at creation (Genesis 2:2-3). Later on, it was instituted as the sign of the everlasting covenant between Elohim and His people, a sign that He sets them apart. an everlasting sign (Exodus 31:13-17, Ezekiel 20:12-20).
Sabbath-keeping is one of the Ten Words of the Covenant, standing forever, settled forever in heaven. founded forever (Psalms 89:34, Psalms 1 1 1:8-9, Psalms 1 19:89).
And, let's point out the following:
1. יֵשׁוּעַ (Jesus) kept the Sabbath (Luke 4:16, John 1 5:10), and the women who were taught by Him still kept it at the time of Messiah's burial (Luke 23:56).
2. Paul kept it (Acts 13:14. Acts 13:4244, Acts 17:2, Acts 18:4 and 18:11).
3. Ludia and the women kept it (Acts 16:13).
4. In Hebrews 4:9 we are again reminded of the necessity of keeping the Sabbath.
5. Finally: At the end of the age (Isaiah 66), we read in verse 23 that the Sabbath shall still be kept.
The Commandments of GOD are STILL expected to be kept by Believers in Messiah even in the Book of Revelation:
Scripture #1
Revelation 12:17 - And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and hold to the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Scripture #2
Revelation 14:12 - Here is the patience of the saints; here are those WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and the faith of Jesus.
Scripture #3
Revelation 22:14 - Blessed are THOSE WHO DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
Meanwhile, WHY "Christians" keep Sunday as a "worship day" is explained by the harlot herself:
All of us believe many things in regard to religion that we do not find in the Bible. For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the Commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the Church outside the Bible.
-The Catholic Virginian, To Tell You The Truth,” Vol. 22, No. 49 (Oct. 3, 1947).
... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
-The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.
(The fact that "the church" believes it can "sanctify" anything would be laughable if it were not so blasphemous)
Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.'
-Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.
It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.-Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.
Protestants ... accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change... But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that ... in observing Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the Church, the pope.-Our Sunday Visitor, February 5th, 1950.
Of course these two old quotations are exactly correct. The Catholic Church designated Sunday as the day for corporate worship and gets full credit - or blame - for the change.
-This Rock, The Magazine of Catholic Apologetics and Evangelization, p.8, June 1997
We ought to obey GOD and not men... (Acts 5:19)
Does that answer your question?
If not...
Perhaps you can do a little study on the so-called "church fathers" to see how they apostatized the worship of the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the only begotten Son...
You can start with 3 John 1:9...
Then look up:
The Council of Nicea, The Council of Trent and just for kicks, look up a guy named Marcion...
If you haven't figured out the truth by then, Go back and read your Scriptures from the front of the Book...
Then see how poorly most of the "Christian" doctrines fare against the TRUTH of the WORD...
The Disciples Kept the Sabbath 85 Times in The Book of Acts
There are many scriptures verifying the Sabbath day being the 7th day of the week. All throughout the ‘New Testament’, the first day of the week is called “The first day of the week” and the 7th day of the week is called “The Sabbath”. This fact alone should prove when the Sabbath truly is.
Many well-meaning Christians say that they observe the Sabbath on the first day of the week, called “Sunday” because that is the day that our Savior rose from the dead. However, would it not make more sense to rest when he rested in the grave and to begin working again when he arose to prepare a place for us?
Either way, let us examine the pattern of the disciples after Yeshua’s resurrection in the book of Acts to determine what day that they attended Sabbath Services and what day they expected others to observe. We will keep a count of how many times the 7th day is observed vs. how many times the first day of the week was observed.
We see one example in Acts 17:1…
Acts 17:1 (NKJV) Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. 2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and demonstrating that the Messiah had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and [saying], “This Yeshua whom I preach to you is the Messiah.” 4 And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas.
Here we see that Paul went to a Sabbath service three times, where there were both Jews and Greeks. The scripture also mentions that this was a regular custom of Paul. Was this also the custom of Yeshua the Messiah?
Luke 4:16 - So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read
Paul once said, “imitate me, as I imitate the Messiah” in 1 Corinthians 11, so Paul would be doing what He did, observe the sabbath on the seventh day. And we are supposed to be doing what Paul did, walking as our Savior walked (1John 2:6 - He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.)
Here we can see that in Acts 17, which is said to be 22 years after Yeshua’s death and resurrection, the disciples were attending Sabbath services with the Jewish people on the seventh day of the week.
In no place do we see Paul or any other disciple teaching them that they should come back the next day and join them for a ‘first day of the week’ service. Rather, they went to three Sabbath services where there were both Jews and Greeks present. Thus, the doctrine that says the Jews have their day (the 7th day) and the Gentiles have their day (the 1st day) is foreign to scripture.
Some would argue that Paul was only at the synagogue because that is where he would find people to witness to, not to observe the Sabbath. But scripture itself does not say that. This is an assumption that those who refuse the simplicity of the scriptures or justify the traditions of men want to make, not one that the scriptures actually teach.
Again, the Seventh Day is called “The Sabbath Day” in this passage.
So let’s see where we are at now...
Seventh Day - 3 First day - 0
Another example is found in Acts 13…
Acts 13:13 - Now when Paul and his party set sail from Paphos, they came to Perga in Pamphylia; and John, departing from them, returned to Jerusalem. 14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down. 15 And after the reading of the Law and the Prophets, the rulers of the synagogue sent to them, saying, “Men [and] brethren, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.”
So here is another example where Paul and the other disciples came to the Synagogue in Perga to attend the Sabbath Service.
Seventh day - 4 First day - 0
A little later in the chapter, after Paul shares Yeshua with them we see that the Gentiles were quite interested.
Acts 13:42 - So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Now here is a perfect situation for Paul to tell these Gentiles “Hey just come back tomorrow, we keep the Sabbath on the first day now!” But we don’t see this written anywhere in scripture.
Acts 13:43 - Now when the congregation had broken up, many of the Jews and devout proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of Yahweh 44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of Yahweh.
So here is the fifth time that the disciples attended a Sabbath service on the day that Yahweh sanctified at creation. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage.
Seventh day - 5 First day - 0
Here is another example in Acts 16…
Acts 16:11 - Therefore, sailing from Troas, we ran a straight course to Samothrace, and the next [day] came to Neapolis, 12 and from there to Philippi, which is the foremost city of that part of Macedonia, a colony. And we were staying in that city for some days. 13 And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met [there].
It was the custom of the Jews of that day for the rabbi to shut down the synagogue if there were not at least 10 men that would show up for the Sabbath meeting. This could very well be why there were women meeting by the riverside for prayer.
Nevertheless, we see that the disciples sought a place to meet for the Sabbath and they did. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath Day” in this passage.
Seventh day - 6 First day - 0
Acts 18:1 - After these things Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth. 2 And he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla (because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome); and he came to them. 3 So, because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked; for by occupation, they were tentmakers. 4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
So, we see that he worked on the other days as a tentmaker, but on the Sabbath He was not. Does this not demonstrate that He was keeping the Sabbath, as he had done his entire life?
Here again we see that both Jews and Greeks are in the synagogue and on the Sabbath. Paul among them, attending the Sabbath services. The interesting thing about this verse is that instead of the scripture saying that they attended only one or three sabbath services, it says that he was there every Sabbath persuading both Jews and Greeks.
Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage so we know that we can at least count one. Let’s do that..
Seventh day - 7 First day - 0
Now if Paul was in Corinth and was reasoning in the synagogue every Sabbath, all we have to do is find out how long he stayed in Corinth to discover how many Sabbaths he actually attended.
Let’s look further...
Acts 18:5 - When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews [that] Yeshua [is] the Messiah. 6 But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook [his] garments and said to them, “Your blood [be] upon your [own] heads; I [am] clean. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.”
7 And he departed from there and entered the house of a certain [man] named Justus, [one] who worshiped God, whose house was next door to the synagogue. 8 Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Master with all his household. And many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed and were baptized. 9 Now the Master spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, “Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not keep silent; 10 “for I am with you, and no one will attack you to hurt you; for I have many people in this city.” 11 And he continued [there] a year and six months, teaching the word of Elohim among them.
A year and six months!
Finally, the ruler of the synagogue was converted to believe in Yeshua and Paul was there a year and six months! So, the scripture says that Paul was there every Sabbath and that he was there for a year and six months. If we counted this by the Gregorian calendar that would give us 52 Sabbaths in a year plus 26 Sabbaths in the following six months, giving us a a total of 78 Sabbaths! Now let’s add this to our present total:
Seventh Day - 85 First day - 0
So, we can see that the disciples attended a Sabbath service 85 times in the book of Acts alone. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage.
First Day of the Week, “Sunday”
How many times do we see them meeting together on the first day of the week, commonly called “Sunday?”
Some would cite one example in Acts 20. Let’s examine the text…
Acts 20:6 - But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days. 7 Now on the first [day] of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight.
Here we see an example of the disciples gathering together on the first day of the week. There is no mention of a Sabbath being observed in this verse. Nowhere is this day called “The Sabbath”. In fact, we know that Paul was ready to depart the next day. According to verse 7, Paul spoke to them a message because for this very reason.
Now some would say that coming together to ‘break bread’ constitutes a meeting that includes the observance of partaking in Yeshua’s body, commonly called the “eucharist” or “communion.” However, this is not true in light of other scripture:
Acts 2:44 - Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. 46 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, 47 praising Yahweh and having favor with all the people. And Yahweh added to the assembly daily those who were being saved.
According to this scripture, breaking bread was not an uncommon thing to do on a daily basis. It was one of the customs in those days to eat their ‘daily bread’. Even in Yeshua’s prayer He said “Give us this day our daily bread “.
So, we cannot confirm that this scripture in Acts 20 is a Sabbath day observance. In fact, nowhere does it say that the first day of the week is the Sabbath. But the 7th day of the week is always called “the Sabbath” in the ‘New Testament.’
Unless you don’t believe in the New Testament, you would have to conclude that this was not a Sabbath meeting. So, what was it really?
Many may not realize that in scripture, a new day begins at sundown. This would mean that at sundown on ‘Saturday’, the first day of the week begins.
Once the Sabbath ends on “Saturday night,” this would have been the appropriate time to cook food and “break bread” because cooking was not done on the Sabbath (Exodus 16:23).
Thus, it is most likely an ‘after Sabbath’ fellowship meal where Paul continued to speak until midnight because he wanted to get as much teaching in as possible before he departed the next morning.
Nevertheless, in spite of 85 other examples of where Paul and the other disciples were participating in Sabbath observance on the 7th day of the week, some will hang onto this one verse so that they may continue their tradition. I say tradition because this verse proves nothing, as it could just as easily been an after Sabbath fellowship meal.
1 Corinthians 16:1-2 - Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.
Some would suggest that this was Paul instructing them to “pass the plate” during “Sunday church services” so that there be no collections when he comes for the Galatian congregations.
However, since the Sabbath ends at sundown on “Saturday,” if everyone was keeping the Ten Commandments as written, and properly observing the Sabbath on the 7th day, the proper time for handling monies would have been on “Saturday night” when the Sabbath had ended. Thus, they would have cooked their meals and handled orders of business after Sabbath, on the first day of the week.
Nowhere in this verse does it say they were keeping the Sabbath on the first day of the week, or that the Sabbath had been changed, or they were holding services on this day. One would have to inject these thoughts into the text, based on one’s assumptions and traditions, rather than getting these thoughts the from the text itself.
If one wants to protest the 85-count tally by saying Paul was only going to the synagogue to preach, and not to keep the Sabbath, that is also an attempt to inject those thoughts into the text, based on one’s assumptions and traditions, rather than from the text itself.
The truth is, for one to remove one of the Ten Commandments from its rightful place among the Ten, there should be a very, very clear directive somewhere in scripture.
The burden of proof is not on one who continues the keep the Sabbath, the burden on proof is on the one who makes the claim that the Sabbath has been changed or abolished.
You can search the scriptures from Genesis to Revelations and you will not find a single verse that says His Sabbath was changed to a different day. There is not a single verse that tells us that the Ten Commandments are not to be kept. And there is not a single verse that prophesied either of these two events occurring!
In fact, the scriptures declare the seventh day to be the Sabbath in the Ten Commandments, in the words of the prophets, in the writings about Yeshua, and in the Acts of the apostles. It continues to speak of the Sabbath being observed by Jews and Gentiles in prophecies of the future Kingdom.
For any who would claim that Colossians 2:14-16 abolishes the Sabbath, please read this study demonstrating otherwise.
Therefore, that final tally will remain at:
Seventh Day - 85 | First day - 0
There is also historical evidence that the early disciples kept the Sabbath on the true day.:
First, we must understand that the Emperor Constantine enforced keeping the Sabbath on the first day of the week, which he calls “the venerable day of the sun.” Venerable means ‘commanding respect,’ suggesting the sun deity should be respected (sadly).
The text of Constantine’s Sunday Law of 321 A.D. is:
“One the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.”
This forced Sabbath may explain why some groups were observing both the 7th day of the week as the Sabbath, but then also meeting on the first day of the week.
“The people of Constantinople, and almost everywhere, assemble together on the Sabbath, as well as on the first day of the week, which custom is never observed at Rome or at Alexandria.”
Ecclesiastical History, vii, 19, in A Select Library of Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2nd Series, Vol. 2, p. 390 [written soon after A.D. 415].
This is interesting, in that only the Christians of Rome and Constantinople forsook the Sabbath day while other churches continued keeping it. Constantine must have had quite an influence over the Roman Christians/Catholics.
“The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews. Therefore, the Christians for a long time together, did keep their conventions on the Sabbath, in which some portions of the Law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council.”
The Whole Works of Jeremey Taylor, Vol. IX, p416 (R. Heber’s Edition, Vol.XII, p.416)
“The ancient Christians were very careful in the observation of Saturday, or the seventh day. It is plain that all the Oriental churches, and the greatest part of the world, observed the Sabbath as a festival…Athanasius likewise tells us that they held religious assemblies on the Sabbath, not because they were infected with Judaism, but to worship [Yeshua], the [Master] of the Sabbath, Epiphanius says the same.”
Antiquities of the Christian Church, Vol. II, Book XX, chap. 3, Sec. 1, 66.1137, 1138
“Ambrose, the celebrated bishop of Milan, said that when he was in Milan he observed Saturday, but when in Rome observed Sunday. This gave rise to the proverb ‘When you are in Rome, do as Rome does,’
Heylyn, The History of the Sabbath, 1613
Later, those who observed the Sabbath were persecuted and killed by the Catholic church. When the Jesuit St. Francis Xavier arrived in India, he immediately requested to the pope to set up the Inquisition there.
“The Jewish wickedness” of which Xavier complained was evidently the Sabbath-keeping among those native Christians as we shall see in our next quotation. When one of these Sabbath-keeping Christians was taken by the Inquisition he was accused of having *Judaized*; which means having conformed to the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law; such as not eating pork, hare, fish without scales, of having attended the solemnization of the Sabbath.”
Account of the Inquisition at Goa, Dellon, p.56. London, 1815
“Of an hundred persons condemned to be burnt as Jews, there are scarcely four who profess that faith at their death; the rest exclaiming and protesting to their last gasp that they are Christians, and have been so during their whole lives.” Ibid p.64
Today, some of the leading Baptists even have admitted that the Sunday Sabbath isn’t in the scriptures:
“There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not on Sunday…It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week…. where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament. Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history as a religious day, as we learn from the Christian Fathers and other sources. But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of a sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!” Dr. Edward Hiscox, author of The Baptist Manual
With all respect Monte, I do believe you are driving a wedge between messianics if they don't have your calendar, saying they don't know the greater exodus if they don't want your calendar. I really respect you and your ministry, but I feel you are pushing many people away.
Its ok to push people away. This isnt the church. Imagine being in Monte's position? Every assembly leader in the world wants to have a large congregation. The reasons for that should be obvious. Monte was tested by Hashem to choose HIM or worldly things. Monte chose Hashem. Well done Monte!
I was out at Sukkot 2020 with Lion and Lamb Ministries. During one of the midrash services near the end that morning, one man asked the question about what he could do to help. He said that he was very wealthy. Monte replied to keep him (Monte) in his prayers. I wonder how many other pastors and leaders would have answered this?
@@HerbertPrince We are going to meet in person someday Herbert.
@@Old-Path Brother, during Sukkot 2020 everyone knew me by Cuz. Tall and had problems with my left leg, which is now amputated, as I learned to live with the pain, but infection was a problem.
What we just throw out what YHVH GAVE TO MOSHE IN EXODUS 12??? “And יהוה spoke to Mosheh and to Aharon in the land of Mitsrayim, saying, This new moon is the beginning of new moons for you, it is the first new moon of the year for you. “And you shall guard this word as a law for you and your sons, forever. “And it shall be, when you come to the land which יהוה gives you, as He promised, that you shall guard this service. There is one Torah for the native-born and for the stranger who sojourns among you. And all the children of Yisra’ĕl did as יהוה commanded Mosheh and Aharon, so they did.”
Shemoth (Exodus) 12:1-2, 24-25, 49-50 TS2009
We are suppose to Guard the Aviv the commands of YHVH…Moshe was commanded to follow YHVHS CALENDAR NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE IT…Amein
Its my personal opinion that the Hillel or Hillel 2 calendar is incorrect. First i would like to defend Monte, in that he is being accused of making up his own calendar. This is absurd. This calendar came from scripture. Its referenced in Enock and well as the deadseas scrolls. If your in the camp that the cannon is your only source of scripture and everything else should be thrown away, then we should just agree to disagree. Because this isnt going to go anywhere.
I like to study prophecy, that's kind of my thing. The 1260 days, 3.5 years, 42 months in revelation 11:2-3 and the 1290 days/1335 days in Daniel 12:11 led me to believe that at the end of the age, or by Gods calendar it would be measured differently than it is now. Its easy to deduce 30 day months or 360 day years from this. I later learned of Enock which seemed to reference the same calendar. Both are very orderly, organized and easy to follow calendars. Some say the current hillel 2 calendar was the same calendar followed since the beginning of history. I disagree with this. The jews themselves say this calendar was created to get all the Jews world wide on the same calendar. Because they were all following different calendars. Its also an incredibly complicated calendar. Maybe im not giving Abraham enough credit here, but i dont see this calendar as being easy for a nomad living in biblical times. I cant figure it out now.
Im no calendar expert. If anyone says they are you probably shouldnt believe them anyway. Im not saying the Zadok calendar is the end all be all. I just find it more right than the Hillel calendar per scripture. Everyones first reaction to change is to throw a fit. Sit back, go through the scripture, and decide for yourself what you should do. Its my opinion that Monte made the correct choice. You can follow any calendar you want. Keep the commandments or dont. Thats between you and Hashem.
First and foremost, I defend the Scriptures...
If what is being taught or claimed doesn't line up with Scriptures, I'm NOT going to defend the person, regardless of who they are...
"This calendar came from scripture."
Please give me the "Book, Chapter and Verse" for this claim.
I keep asking people for the "Book, Chapter and Verse" and all they continue to give me is:
"Its referenced in Enock and well as the deadseas scrolls." (Err... Enoch)
NEITHER of these are Scripture...
Additionally, please read the disclaimer from the Wesley Center Online (one of Eddie Chumney's website links) concerning The Non-Canonized Books of Apocrypha:
Noncanonical Literature Documents to Aid Students and Scholars in Biblical Interpretation including Introductions and Summaries of Many Noncanonical Works
Non-Canonical Literature Disclaimer
Most apocryphal works have been considered fictional or of lesser value than the canonical works. The Wesley Center Online provides this literature, accurately scanned and edited, from a variety of public domain publications, and makes no truth claims for the literature's content.
Non-Canonical Literature Disclaimer
The Bible is an invaluable collection of sacred ancient texts, written and assembled over several hundreds of years by numerous authors. These texts were written to particular people living at a definite time and place who shared common experiences and knowledge. By studying similar literature that precedes and follows the biblical writings chronologically, students of the Bible are better prepared to discover the intended meaning.
Apocryphal and pseudepigraphal literature was apparently intended either to supplement or supplant existing canonical literature. Many of the apocryphal gospels offer guesses as to what occurred during the so-called "missing years" of Jesus' life -- during his childhood or after his resurrection. Others attempt to provide support for later theological convictions -- both orthodox and heretical. Whether the information found in the apocryphal literature is factually correct or not is not necessarily important. These documents give interpreters valuable insight into what some Jews and Christians believed in various places at different times.
So...
You are claiming something to be true...
That you CAN'T prove with the Scriptures...
But, instead you cite books that "have been considered fictional or of lesser value than the canonical works."
AND...
Are described as:
"Others attempt to provide support for later theological convictions -- both orthodox and heretical. Whether the information found in the apocryphal literature is factually correct or not is not necessarily important."
All I want is for someone to SHOW ME what Scriptures (Book, Chapter and Verse) show this was the calendar that was used and that the one used during the time of Yeshua (which is what is claimed) is NOT a correct calendar...
UNTIL someone can show me the TRUTH of the Scriptures that proves anything, I'm going to tell you to kick rocks...
TOO MANY cults were started due to basing their doctrines from "Non-Biblical/Extra-Biblical" sources...
The Catholics with their syncretizing of EVERY heathen abomination imaginable, infallible "popes" and 900 page extra-biblical Bible...
The Mormons have their golden laser discs and infallible Joseph Smith, magic underwear and more demonic rites than you can shake a stick at...
The Jehovah's Witnesses have Charles Taze Russell and a WHOLE mess of nonsense...
Now here we have this...
A doctrine that tells everybody they have been "following the wrong calendar" that is based on the barley being "aviv", the New Moon and the Sun...
But instead the "REAL" truths can be found in these books that are not necessarily true and some bits of papyrus or animal hide ...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 I agree with you in that we should all follow the scriptures and no man. I came to the conclusion about the calendar before i ever heard it from Monte or anyone else. What Monte later said was in agreeance where i believe the Spirit was leading me.
As far as scripture proving or disproving. That's a matter of perspective and how you interpert what you read in the scriptures. The Hillel 2 calendar isnt in the scriptures either. A lunar calendar is as well as a 360 day calendar.
I respect your opinion and understand how you came to the conclusion you came to. I do think we should agree to disagree. Probably neither of us is right. Im ok with not being right and changing. I have been wrong in my view of scripture many times. Are you ok with being wrong?
@@bawbjusbawb6471 I would like to make one additional point. You say that you do not follow men but the scripture, which is very honorable and correct. Yet you say you accept the cannon as scripture but not the apocrypha. Wasnt it men who decided what would be in the cannon and what wouldnt? And wasnt it men who gave the opinion that the apocrypha "have been considered fictional or of lesser value than the canonical works."?
@@Old-Path
If you get a chance, read Chapter 55 Verse 35 or so from the Book of Jasher...
Fiction...
The "Jewish Fables" Paul spoke of (Titus 1.14)
@@Old-Path
"Are you ok with being wrong?"
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken... JK
A wise man will receive rebuke and thank you...
A fool will hate you...
If the Holy Spirit or Yah shows me that I'm in error by not believing this calendar to be correct, You'll be the 2nd guy I thank..
Can this lady keep her voice still while he is answering the questions? It's so annoying and interrupting!!!!
That was rude…
Very, I personally enjoy Kimberly's input. Shabbat Shalom
This comment says a lot more about you than Kimberly