I wanted this shoe badly, so I was willing to pay a bit extra for shipping than risk the L on SNKRS. I do think you're right and that many people are waiting for SNKRS to avoid the extra fees, which in my head lowered my odds of getting the W there. Overall I am happy to see that anyone that wanted this shoe could likely get it vs resellers buying it all up and ripping us off later.
Same. I’ve wanted the 4s all year n have horrible luck on snkrs even for GR. Couldn’t even get military blue, breds, the ama3 via snkrs… i always have to elsewhere
$16 for shipping feels a bit much, under $10 seems more reasonable to me. That said, I don't really depend on the SNKRS app, so I'd rather pay the fee than take an L.
I ordered these shoes and still have not received anyone else have this problem? I ordered from a ma maniere and I agree with the video I will never order from somewhere else only Nike Nike has free shipping and return
While they are sleepin I’m coppin, don’t care about no hype the quality is great on them jawns, I got the AMA 3’s already and last I’m coppin is the 95’s and I’m good.
The shoe sitting does not mean the shoe is bad. Good lord the shoe is absolutely fire and it is more expensive than your average jordan. The link is a hidden one so it's a little more challenging to find and buy. But when they all do eventually sell out people will regret not getting them.
@@jordanmaldonado864 I believe it’s personal preference. If people are not willing to just throw money away, it’s their choice. Because if they don’t start thinking now, when will it stop? When the shoe costs $350 plus $50 for shipping? I think that’s the problem with pricing. People will say it’s just $220 and $40 for shipping and two months later it’s $260 and $50 for shipping? As a consumer when do you draw the line? Let the price go to $1000 and turn around and say “oh that’s all?”
As a person with a wide foot who has trouble with sizing most of the time, sometimes ranging from 9-10.5, f*** that “Final Sale” BS. I need to try them on and test them out with the assurance i’ll get my money back in form of original payment, not that in-store credit bs. If I can’t do any of that, then bye ✌🏻
I doubled up with Manieres 3s and 4s. People who said they wanted to wait for SNKRS drop...I noticed that only the clothes are on SNKRS. Does this mean that the Maniere 4s will not drop on SNKRS, but just the Clothing?
I'm glad these shoes are "sitting" because i couldn't cop the previous maniere 3s and 4s for retail and now I got both very easily. I don't have the fortune to wait on a SNKRS app release because of my shoe size 14. I don't mind paying that extra $15-$20 for shipping from maniere because its better than paying resell with all those fees and the resell price. I also had to triple up on the mocha 1 lows since i don't have the highs they was mad easy and i got a discount on a pair. Most likely i won't hit the Travis 1 lows so these mochas will do i guess lol
No return policy and QC issues on the last A Ma 3 coming from A Ma Maniere kept me from going for them thru A Ma. I've got so many blown in boxes and messed up shoes due to manufacturing, QC, and shipping issues. I survive by a good RMA these days 😅.. just put a roof on my house. Too damn expensive out there
Think ppl waiting on SNKRS, but I went ahead and got a pair cause I like them. Plus those Jae tips dropped the same day, Kobe’s a few days ago. I normally don’t get anything from place with no returns cause that’s not right. See how those burgundy 12 bled 🤷🏽♀️. The shoe game is a gamble.
They gave refunds on the 12s. They give refunds on manufacturers defects. Depending on the customer service rep you may feel a hint of passive aggressiveness but it’s not absolutely no returns. Unfortunately they don’t do refunds on stolen goods but I think that’s a problem for your credit company or your carrier to solve. That’s why it’s best to use a credit card with rewards and just pay it off asap. You get the points and the credit card company will advocate for you to a greater extent than if it was a debit card.
I think you have a really good point. The shoe sales in general are down but i think this is definitely another big variable that is affecting this company. Doing final sale like this is not cool
I think people who really want the shoe have no issues with the no return policy. If this keeps me from having to pay resell and I can get it retail so be it. I’m not a reseller so unless it’s a defect or damaged shoe or wrong size ( which you can return under those circumstances) I’m not trying to send them back anyways! Sneaker heads winning right now!
To buy from a ma manier from canada would cost an extra 200$ cad for taxes, shipping, and duties. I got the 3s from them and learned my leason, i really want the shoes but i just cant do it.
Just a heads up if your A Ma 4’s ship from Fontana California or Greensboro Indiana or Lebanon Indiana as well as 2 other warhorses in the southern area it’s coming from a main Nike distribution warehouse. I have an assumption that Nike is shipping for a majority of there retailers. I’m not sure if it’s a money saving issue of not having to ship to all different warehouses across the country or Nike trying to control the vast majority of backdoored pairs or even Nike tracking to see exactly how many pairs are being shipped to the same address over and over. Nike wanting to have there second party retailers have us link our accounts to our SNKRS accounts is a little to far in my opinion 🤷♂️ But there’s definitely a reason there doing all of theses things? 🤔 Sorry for rambling 👍🏼✌🏼
Not at all, I appreciate the insight. With so many investigations of some businesses doing what they aren't supposed to be doing in the retail market for resell profit, I personally think Nike at some point launched their on investigation.
@@AlexP-kq6ww Congrats 🎉 Mine haven’t shipped yet either 🤷♂️ And you are right it’s Greenwood Indiana not Greensboro 🤦♂️ Crazy to think that Nike is literally shipping for all there Nike account holders 🤔 My Mocha 1 lows also shipped out of Lebanon Indiana that I hit on JD sports 🤔 Now I’m wondering if it’s also a data center and Nike tracking us across all apps. I’m seeing a lot of apps to connect to your NIKE account ☠️🤷♂️🤔✌🏼
Personally for me Nike and Jordan’s aren’t sustainable or cruelty free . A lot more people are supporting vegan footwear so that’s a factor . But maybe some are also tired of the same style Jordan’s and dunks . They are nice but for me I’m wanting something new and different. I’m rocking the ae1 in every color
Bingo! 🖕🏾that shipping. Remember shoes depreciate it’s not a necessity in life my man. Priorities is the focus. And for those who got it and don’t everyone knows ok I’m being selective. I got mortgage I keep 16-20 pair if I want a shoe so bad get rid of the one I least like. If I’m being honest that color is old bruh! I mean how many ways can you cook a chicken. I passed because they played out and overpriced. Had most A ma and got rid of them.
What other 4 had a collab? That’s what’s funny about these, there’s not a lot of Jordan 4 collabs in general n people still slept. I mean who cares really but its interesting
IMO, A year ago resellers were responsible for 30% of sales. Resellers are not buying as much due to resell being down so manufacturers are getting stuck with inventory
@Miltnificent they showed up today on snkrs canada 🇨🇦 today for $290 after tax it comes out to $327.00 🇨🇦 facts 💯 check it out. would love for you to do a video about cost in different countries.....your welcome for the content idea 😆 🤣 😂 just big me up zeen me bredren
Comment below and let me know what you think of the Air Jordan 4 While You Were Sleeping Release.
I comped these along with the lucid limes this past week
I buy what I like an I did buy the 3s and 4s. Great quality. Resellers are mad, collectors are up!
big facts fam
@@YesIcan-lucky13 same all of the sudden the 4 ain’t that great lmao clowns
Big fan of everyone being able to grab these 3s and 4s honestly
@@HeatLedgerKicks big facts
Nike and AMM made a bunch of pairs of these and I’m all for it. This is how it should be when trying to buy shoes, not having to fight with bots.
Agreed fam
I wanted this shoe badly, so I was willing to pay a bit extra for shipping than risk the L on SNKRS. I do think you're right and that many people are waiting for SNKRS to avoid the extra fees, which in my head lowered my odds of getting the W there. Overall I am happy to see that anyone that wanted this shoe could likely get it vs resellers buying it all up and ripping us off later.
@@EM-ls7mx big facts
Same. I’ve wanted the 4s all year n have horrible luck on snkrs even for GR. Couldn’t even get military blue, breds, the ama3 via snkrs… i always have to elsewhere
@jissanhuq3792 I managed to hit on the breds. They aren't to far above retail on the secondary market right now either. I might double up on them
$16 for shipping feels a bit much, under $10 seems more reasonable to me. That said, I don't really depend on the SNKRS app, so I'd rather pay the fee than take an L.
I hear ya
I ordered these shoes and still have not received anyone else have this problem? I ordered from a ma maniere and I agree with the video I will never order from somewhere else only Nike Nike has free shipping and return
Oh there's an update to this and I hope to have it done soon.
While they are sleepin I’m coppin, don’t care about no hype the quality is great on them jawns, I got the AMA 3’s already and last I’m coppin is the 95’s and I’m good.
@@griffithaugustine6287 Owee those 95s I’m definitely looking into
He forfeited $1.2 million dollars…. Gotta charge fees!😂😂😂
lol oh snap
The shoe sitting does not mean the shoe is bad. Good lord the shoe is absolutely fire and it is more expensive than your average jordan. The link is a hidden one so it's a little more challenging to find and buy. But when they all do eventually sell out people will regret not getting them.
for sure, get what you want.
waited for snkrs for the 3's and took an L, due their limited stock, 16 bucks is not a big deal imho
@@nonsecular13 I hear ya
Bust Or Broke⁉️ $265.00 for a pair of 4's is wild.
@@jordanmaldonado864 I believe it’s personal preference. If people are not willing to just throw money away, it’s their choice. Because if they don’t start thinking now, when will it stop? When the shoe costs $350 plus $50 for shipping? I think that’s the problem with pricing. People will say it’s just $220 and $40 for shipping and two months later it’s $260 and $50 for shipping? As a consumer when do you draw the line? Let the price go to $1000 and turn around and say “oh that’s all?”
Finally got my double up in the 3's and my W on the 4's!!!!
With A men size 14 I couldn't depend on SNKRS only.
I hear that
As a person with a wide foot who has trouble with sizing most of the time, sometimes ranging from 9-10.5, f*** that “Final Sale” BS. I need to try them on and test them out with the assurance i’ll get my money back in form of original payment, not that in-store credit bs. If I can’t do any of that, then bye ✌🏻
I hear that
I doubled up with Manieres 3s and 4s. People who said they wanted to wait for SNKRS drop...I noticed that only the clothes are on SNKRS. Does this mean that the Maniere 4s will not drop on SNKRS, but just the Clothing?
I think the shoes will soon.
It’s not that people don’t want it, it’s the fact we’re not trying to pay shipping and the EQL fees
Already did
True dat
I'm glad these shoes are "sitting" because i couldn't cop the previous maniere 3s and 4s for retail and now I got both very easily. I don't have the fortune to wait on a SNKRS app release because of my shoe size 14. I don't mind paying that extra $15-$20 for shipping from maniere because its better than paying resell with all those fees and the resell price. I also had to triple up on the mocha 1 lows since i don't have the highs they was mad easy and i got a discount on a pair. Most likely i won't hit the Travis 1 lows so these mochas will do i guess lol
get what ya can fam
Grabbed them green ae1s. Challenging color to wear, but I'm with it
Ayee I hear that
No return policy and QC issues on the last A Ma 3 coming from A Ma Maniere kept me from going for them thru A Ma. I've got so many blown in boxes and messed up shoes due to manufacturing, QC, and shipping issues. I survive by a good RMA these days 😅.. just put a roof on my house. Too damn expensive out there
lol I hear ya fam
Think ppl waiting on SNKRS, but I went ahead and got a pair cause I like them. Plus those Jae tips dropped the same day, Kobe’s a few days ago. I normally don’t get anything from place with no returns cause that’s not right. See how those burgundy 12 bled 🤷🏽♀️. The shoe game is a gamble.
Big facts!
They gave refunds on the 12s. They give refunds on manufacturers defects. Depending on the customer service rep you may feel a hint of passive aggressiveness but it’s not absolutely no returns. Unfortunately they don’t do refunds on stolen goods but I think that’s a problem for your credit company or your carrier to solve. That’s why it’s best to use a credit card with rewards and just pay it off asap. You get the points and the credit card company will advocate for you to a greater extent than if it was a debit card.
I think you have a really good point. The shoe sales in general are down but i think this is definitely another big variable that is affecting this company. Doing final sale like this is not cool
yeah especially when I hear consumers overseas talking about their policy and its completely different from the states :(
Think it’s just so many releases. $250 here $220 there $200 there. Everybody gets $250😂😂😂
Verdy SBs hit at my local shop FCFS and AMM 4s for the toe.
@@DaddySeed ayeee congrats fam
@@DaddySeed totally agree! Just imagine holiday 2024 in quarter 4. All the Jordan/ Nike , Adidas Yeezy (last one) is going be insane!
I think people who really want the shoe have no issues with the no return policy. If this keeps me from having to pay resell and I can get it retail so be it. I’m not a reseller so unless it’s a defect or damaged shoe or wrong size ( which you can return under those circumstances) I’m not trying to send them back anyways! Sneaker heads winning right now!
true dat
I paid $60 to get them shipped to the UK easy W on Friday from a ma website can’t wait
ayee congrats..
To buy from a ma manier from canada would cost an extra 200$ cad for taxes, shipping, and duties. I got the 3s from them and learned my leason, i really want the shoes but i just cant do it.
I hear ya fam
Just a heads up if your A Ma 4’s ship from Fontana California or Greensboro Indiana or Lebanon Indiana as well as 2 other warhorses in the southern area it’s coming from a main Nike distribution warehouse. I have an assumption that Nike is shipping for a majority of there retailers. I’m not sure if it’s a money saving issue of not having to ship to all different warehouses across the country or Nike trying to control the vast majority of backdoored pairs or even Nike tracking to see exactly how many pairs are being shipped to the same address over and over. Nike wanting to have there second party retailers have us link our accounts to our SNKRS accounts is a little to far in my opinion 🤷♂️ But there’s definitely a reason there doing all of theses things? 🤔 Sorry for rambling 👍🏼✌🏼
Not at all, I appreciate the insight. With so many investigations of some businesses doing what they aren't supposed to be doing in the retail market for resell profit, I personally think Nike at some point launched their on investigation.
Mine from greenwood, but haven't actually shipped out yet since release
@@AlexP-kq6ww Congrats 🎉 Mine haven’t shipped yet either 🤷♂️ And you are right it’s Greenwood Indiana not Greensboro 🤦♂️ Crazy to think that Nike is literally shipping for all there Nike account holders 🤔 My Mocha 1 lows also shipped out of Lebanon Indiana that I hit on JD sports 🤔 Now I’m wondering if it’s also a data center and Nike tracking us across all apps. I’m seeing a lot of apps to connect to your NIKE account ☠️🤷♂️🤔✌🏼
Personally for me Nike and Jordan’s aren’t sustainable or cruelty free . A lot more people are supporting vegan footwear so that’s a factor . But maybe some are also tired of the same style Jordan’s and dunks . They are nice but for me I’m wanting something new and different. I’m rocking the ae1 in every color
yeah I agree, it starts to get a bit tiresome seeing the same designed shoe over and over. Its good to see innovation over time.
It’s not just this brand everything are sitting every drop
i hear ya
@@Miltnificent if you can only buy 1 pair of sneakers this month should I go for black toe royal foams or low moca
@@Miltnificent did you get any updates on when ma manire will ship out there sneakers I ain’t get nothing or hear anything
I think resellers not buys large numbers of pairs has a lot to do with it
oh without a doubt. I think its the fact that with some companies, they can't simply return them if they can't flip them for a quick buck.
I took. Big L on the verdy and ishod and n sneakers dnd in person at skate shop I end up getting a 3y may sell it
ahh I hear ya fam
Bingo! 🖕🏾that shipping. Remember shoes depreciate it’s not a necessity in life my man. Priorities is the focus. And for those who got it and don’t everyone knows ok I’m being selective. I got mortgage I keep 16-20 pair if I want a shoe so bad get rid of the one I least like. If I’m being honest that color is old bruh! I mean how many ways can you cook a chicken. I passed because they played out and overpriced. Had most A ma and got rid of them.
I hear that!
I’m just tired of 10 collaborations sneaker releases every week .
Not especial no more. Just on other colab.
yeah I think its getting a bit out of control now.
What other 4 had a collab? That’s what’s funny about these, there’s not a lot of Jordan 4 collabs in general n people still slept. I mean who cares really but its interesting
IMO, A year ago resellers were responsible for 30% of sales. Resellers are not buying as much due to resell being down so manufacturers are getting stuck with inventory
I agree cuz my reseller just quit out the blue. Now I’m having to jump in raffles and do all this work myself
Supply and demand can get trendy no matter what the item is. Had a feeling things would slowly change back to normal.
I'm sure the charges against Whitner of backdooring/money laundering other A Ma releases isn't helping the image of the company either...
Yeah especially because I feel like he had nothing to do with it but because the person he may have trusted to operate store, is the problem.
when those shoes hit nike the bots will take em all. real collectors like myself will go to the site and get them on launch day
@@damienakaaaageniusknight9260 I hear that!
60 shipping to canada 🇨🇦
@@damienakaaaageniusknight9260 😳 holy smokes
@Miltnificent they showed up today on snkrs canada 🇨🇦 today for $290 after tax it comes out to $327.00 🇨🇦 facts 💯 check it out. would love for you to do a video about cost in different countries.....your welcome for the content idea 😆 🤣 😂 just big me up zeen me bredren