Due to a technical way the audio buffer works in Polar which is beyond my mortal understanding (the engineers explained it to me and my eyes glazed over), the delay times have to be measured in milliseconds and not as tempo divisions. When I'm using it, I do it like I used to on my Lexicon reverb units or other effects units in the pre-computer era... I calculate it. Nowadays there's great tempo to ms calculators online if you google it. You just plug in a tempo and it gives you the ms.
I have found this to be a very exciting element to the whole Reason experience. The features are perfect in a stand alone way , and the possibility of combining with other elements within the software lead to very enjoyable hours at the console. I have purchased Reason w/ Balance some months back now, and have only become more and more fond of the comprehensive work space, and the open- ended nature of the components, Thanks for this profound and fantastic change you offer to the world.
Polar uses straight parallel harmony. So when I'm shifting at +7, it will shift it +7 semitones from whatever pitch I'm playing. So to make that work across polyphonic harmonies or in specific scales can require a little bit of planning and sometimes a little music theory knowledge helps. Some tips: +3 or -3 can be tricky to make it work for you without careful consideration of what notes your playing. But +5 or +7 and -5 and -7 work a lot better for just messing around with notes and phrases.
Hello Propellerheads :) Would you be so kind to have the name of the instructor for this video:? I have sound engineering questions. Specifically, how to make my guitar sound more like a key (for chords and leads), thnak you so much!
Aw, thanks ShelLuser! Be sure to post some of your new music to our Facebook or tweet it to us... I'd love to hear what you come up with for Polar experimentation!
Awesome, thank you for the prompt response! Took that idea a bit further and used a combi programmer to route a few of those calculated delay times to the 4 buttons. Makes it easy to toggle between different synced intervals with automation. You guys rock, please don't ever stop...
@keem85m. As for other VST's you can use Wavves H-Delay and duplicate the track and pitch shift it with your daw or use Wavves ultra pitch I guess. What you could also do is download the trial of Reason, which includes everything the full copy does with the exception of letting you opened saved files, and route the audio into your normal DAW so you don't have to worry about the saving limitations.
Well, as of today I'm a happy & proud Polar owner and I can say this: its awesome, and not just for guitar sounds. Granted; if you use it on other sounds you may need to tweak it a little more than as shown in this video. But the results... oh man, don't get me started. Stuff like this somewhat answers the question a little as to why the Props always manage to come up with such catching music demos & scores. For starters their tools are top notch :-)
This is why I love the Reason devices so much; they may look relatively easy on the outside but pack a heavy punch, which you'll quickly discover as you get to know them a bit better. This held true for devices such as The Echo, Pulveriser and Pulsar, and the same can be said about Polar IMO. RE's are all nice and fine, but I'm only getting myself the stuff from the Propellerheads. These aren't merely audio devices; these are specific Reason devices with a vision behind it.
I'm with you mate, it sounds incredible, I wonder if I can get propellerheads permission to sample it because with all that distortion and that many notes i'm having a hard time deconstructing the chords ...maybe i should look up "basic power chords" and then add in the -3 semitone relationship.
Plus they do let you try it for a month for free without any commitment which really helps. I typically route all my audio into Live and create audio clips, basically use Reason as an all in one Plugin, so even after the trial has expired for my RE's I still have a collection of clips with those instruments that I can work with
You mean doing something sorta like intelligent harmony shifting? You could certainly experiment with something like that and perhaps if you made custom scales to omit notes of the scale you weren't using so you could make Neptune's catch zones bigger, then you'd improve its rounding the pitch up or down the right way at the right time. It'd probably take a little tweaking but TRY IT! And feel free to tweet the results to us or even post back here. Good luck and great idea!
@MomoTheBellyDancer I get what you're saying but the Standalone copy of Reason actually contains so much and so many possibilities that I don't feel certain RE's like this one are absolutely necessary. It's the same as Plugins with any other DAW, and even worse with some DAWs such as Ableton. You have to buy Live Suite to get all the features and its a boatload more
I just downloaded the ”Strumb and Thumb guitar/bass mini-ReFill”, but when opening it from within Reason it's empty. Any ideas? Really liked the sound of the guitar that was achieved on 2:37.
That is not the case. Ever since Reason (6) gobbled up Record it also got all of Records devices, which include the Neptune pitch adjuster. Which can both correct but also shift the pitch. Polar basically enhances on that functionality by taking it one step further. It maybe a small investment (E 55,-) but well worth it IMO.
Because it's another huge rip-off! These things should be included in the DAW or at least in the price of the DAW. They try to get more money out of you by every little plugin, that you could get for free usually. Not being able to us VST. Money, money, money! That's why I do not recommend Reason to people.
Great tutorial, again...(duh). One question. In every tutorial, an instrument, effect or player is brought into the project and the first thing is to “reset device”. Why not make it so that when you bring in the device, it’s already reset, eliminates the need to reset it anyway. Amazing stuff, guys. You’ve changed my life, and made it much more pleasurable for my friends 😂😂! Thanks
Now this is funny; showing the video to a friend of mine and finding myself at the top of the comments. Shouldn't you guys be asleep by now? ;) (oh wait! You're probably from the US.. my bad!). Anyway; I'm not involved with social media, at all. But you can expect a thorough review of the device (and maybe some demos, who knows) on an upcoming blog post. I'd be happy to give you guys a heads up the moment it gets published. I still don't like the RE intro movie, but your REs are awesome.
Pardon my ignorance, but is there similar vst-s I can buy? Since I'm using another DAW. Want to have somthing that gives me the chills.. I do like Reason, but I'm sticing with my other DAW. Any tips would be greatly appreciated
Reason won't be able to use Audio Units or Vsti etc. Reason works the way it does because it all works as one system If they bring in plug ins from other sources it messes with this system. Their version of plug ins is rack extensions like Polar that he is describing here. You wont see a massive etc but you can get some great rack extensions that will do a similar job .
I've spent my money on shit I don't understand; and that's the beauty of Propellerhead Software.
Due to a technical way the audio buffer works in Polar which is beyond my mortal understanding (the engineers explained it to me and my eyes glazed over), the delay times have to be measured in milliseconds and not as tempo divisions. When I'm using it, I do it like I used to on my Lexicon reverb units or other effects units in the pre-computer era... I calculate it. Nowadays there's great tempo to ms calculators online if you google it. You just plug in a tempo and it gives you the ms.
I just found a great calculator for it.
www.keyandpitch.com/tools/bpm-to-ms-calculator/
I wish there was a way to make more tutorials like this in a daily basis but I can see how much time and effort goes into the editing
Yes sir! THIS is the kind of video you need to make to advertise your products. Very nice!
I have found this to be a very exciting element to the whole Reason experience. The features are perfect in a stand alone way , and the possibility of combining with other elements within the software lead to very enjoyable hours at the console. I have purchased Reason w/ Balance some months back now, and have only become more and more fond of the comprehensive work space, and the open- ended nature of the components, Thanks for this profound and fantastic change you offer to the world.
I've just added a download link to those patches in the description of this video for you and anyone else who wants them. :)
Can I still get the strum and thumb refill anywhere??
Polar uses straight parallel harmony. So when I'm shifting at +7, it will shift it +7 semitones from whatever pitch I'm playing. So to make that work across polyphonic harmonies or in specific scales can require a little bit of planning and sometimes a little music theory knowledge helps. Some tips: +3 or -3 can be tricky to make it work for you without careful consideration of what notes your playing. But +5 or +7 and -5 and -7 work a lot better for just messing around with notes and phrases.
Hello Propellerheads :) Would you be so kind to have the name of the instructor for this video:? I have sound engineering questions. Specifically, how to make my guitar sound more like a key (for chords and leads), thnak you so much!
now, 5 years later, this is still one of my favorite effects!
Aw, thanks ShelLuser! Be sure to post some of your new music to our Facebook or tweet it to us... I'd love to hear what you come up with for Polar experimentation!
What song is that at 3:41
Awesome, thank you for the prompt response! Took that idea a bit further and used a combi programmer to route a few of those calculated delay times to the 4 buttons. Makes it easy to toggle between different synced intervals with automation. You guys rock, please don't ever stop...
ahhh finally, been looking for a little more in depth video on polar. now just waiting for the rest of it
these videos are so great. Really sells the product
Fantastic video. That device is a bit daunting at first look. I'm glad you took the time to start breaking it down for us video goobs! Thanks!
@keem85m. As for other VST's you can use Wavves H-Delay and duplicate the track and pitch shift it with your daw or use Wavves ultra pitch I guess. What you could also do is download the trial of Reason, which includes everything the full copy does with the exception of letting you opened saved files, and route the audio into your normal DAW so you don't have to worry about the saving limitations.
Another great tutorial vid. Love them.
Well, as of today I'm a happy & proud Polar owner and I can say this: its awesome, and not just for guitar sounds. Granted; if you use it on other sounds you may need to tweak it a little more than as shown in this video. But the results... oh man, don't get me started. Stuff like this somewhat answers the question a little as to why the Props always manage to come up with such catching music demos & scores. For starters their tools are top notch :-)
This is why I love the Reason devices so much; they may look relatively easy on the outside but pack a heavy punch, which you'll quickly discover as you get to know them a bit better. This held true for devices such as The Echo, Pulveriser and Pulsar, and the same can be said about Polar IMO. RE's are all nice and fine, but I'm only getting myself the stuff from the Propellerheads. These aren't merely audio devices; these are specific Reason devices with a vision behind it.
At 2:37 it sounds absolutely amazing. I know you did not only use the Polar plugin for this, how did you give it that nice vintage-distortion-feel?
I'm with you mate, it sounds incredible, I wonder if I can get propellerheads permission to sample it because with all that distortion and that many notes i'm having a hard time deconstructing the chords ...maybe i should look up "basic power chords" and then add in the -3 semitone relationship.
this is so amazing!! i have to get this rack asap
Plus they do let you try it for a month for free without any commitment which really helps. I typically route all my audio into Live and create audio clips, basically use Reason as an all in one Plugin, so even after the trial has expired for my RE's I still have a collection of clips with those instruments that I can work with
I'm convinced, I need to try it out.
You mean doing something sorta like intelligent harmony shifting? You could certainly experiment with something like that and perhaps if you made custom scales to omit notes of the scale you weren't using so you could make Neptune's catch zones bigger, then you'd improve its rounding the pitch up or down the right way at the right time. It'd probably take a little tweaking but TRY IT! And feel free to tweet the results to us or even post back here. Good luck and great idea!
Excellent video
This makes me want to buy this like tomorrow!!
Great video, thanks!! Any suggestions on how to tempo sync the delay times for the dry signal and 2nd pitch shifter?
@MomoTheBellyDancer I get what you're saying but the Standalone copy of Reason actually contains so much and so many possibilities that I don't feel certain RE's like this one are absolutely necessary. It's the same as Plugins with any other DAW, and even worse with some DAWs such as Ableton. You have to buy Live Suite to get all the features and its a boatload more
No. Polar is a Rack Extension. The ability to add Rack Extensions comes with Reason 6.5. It's SO AWESOME!
So the default Reason product does not come with a pitch shifter for guitarists? It's only available as a paid add-on?
If you put a neptune right after it, is this a way to keep it in key? But then there would be significant latency wouldn't there be?
Is this compatible with older reason verions? Reason 4 or 5? Or Reason Record?
I just downloaded the ”Strumb and Thumb guitar/bass mini-ReFill”, but when opening it from within Reason it's empty. Any ideas? Really liked the sound of the guitar that was achieved on 2:37.
That is not the case. Ever since Reason (6) gobbled up Record it also got all of Records devices, which include the Neptune pitch adjuster. Which can both correct but also shift the pitch. Polar basically enhances on that functionality by taking it one step further. It maybe a small investment (E 55,-) but well worth it IMO.
What is wrong with people is this a habit to give thumbs down? how on earth do you give this down? damn
Because it's another huge rip-off! These things should be included in the DAW or at least in the price of the DAW. They try to get more money out of you by every little plugin, that you could get for free usually. Not being able to us VST. Money, money, money! That's why I do not recommend Reason to people.
Great tutorial, again...(duh). One question. In every tutorial, an instrument, effect or player is brought into the project and the first thing is to “reset device”. Why not make it so that when you bring in the device, it’s already reset, eliminates the need to reset it anyway. Amazing stuff, guys. You’ve changed my life, and made it much more pleasurable for my friends 😂😂! Thanks
You can change this in settings to do just that
how did you shift them to the songs key?
great job PH , this is awesome!!!!! ;)
That song jams dude. What’s the name??
I hope Reason 7 is going to have the awesome feature to use external plugins :)
This is by far the best Rack Extension.
Thanks!
What are those guitar chords at 2:37
Does anybody know a similar plugin for Logic Pro ?
I Cart Seem To Get My Guitar's Audio To Come Into Reason...
Is It Because I Dont Have A Audio Interface ????????
HELP PLEASE!!
Polar is next to join my racks!!!
Now this is funny; showing the video to a friend of mine and finding myself at the top of the comments. Shouldn't you guys be asleep by now? ;) (oh wait! You're probably from the US.. my bad!). Anyway; I'm not involved with social media, at all. But you can expect a thorough review of the device (and maybe some demos, who knows) on an upcoming blog post. I'd be happy to give you guys a heads up the moment it gets published. I still don't like the RE intro movie, but your REs are awesome.
1:57 Talking Heads - The Lady Don't Mind
Only Reason 6.5+ (which supports reason extensions)
Amazing device that is. What kind of guitar type is that in the video. I love it's clean tone.
Just looks like a standard fender strat
I got to have it!!!
Can't wait to try this with my moog the rogue ^^
I got this for $10 with a coupon that Props sent me lol awesome little thing. Kinda like Little AlterBoy but on steroids
Pardon my ignorance, but is there similar vst-s I can buy? Since I'm using another DAW. Want to have somthing that gives me the chills.. I do like Reason, but I'm sticing with my other DAW. Any tips would be greatly appreciated
Well now you can. Lol
Reason won't be able to use Audio Units or Vsti etc. Reason works the way it does because it all works as one system If they bring in plug ins from other sources it messes with this system. Their version of plug ins is rack extensions like Polar that he is describing here. You wont see a massive etc but you can get some great rack extensions that will do a similar job .
How do you record Polar's audio onto another track?
bounce in place?
You guys should give polar with next upgrade
ugh, way to propellerhead. my 30 day trial just ended and now you make me want this thing that I didnt like.
This is like the baby version of what would later become Scales and Chords Player.
dem autumn leaves
FUCK YEAH POLAR
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ughh this looks awesome... but i dont really have the money to spend on stuff like this on top of reason.
I'd like to see this in an actual guitar pedal.
You guys always make such sex music on these tutorials
i just got back from a cruise, and not going to lie they played music that sounded like the song made in this video hahaha
Well, i make a lot of "The world's Most Boring Guitar Parts" all the time… and then add Guitar Rig! :(
Lucky me i just installed Reason 7 today :D
Why don't ya'll go ahead and ahhh...let me have Polar for free
Don't hold your breath.
Get inspired bipolar
im bipolar too :(
World's most boring guitar part ever? Have you guys never heard Lil' Wayne play?