@@carlsperr Figures out to be 72 long years ago (Aug. 2022). How the world has changed so drastically and as a far lower character and quality than in 1950.
She WAS beautiful, wasn't she? I remember her from the '60 and when she was in a James Bond film of that era (Diamonds are Forever, I think) and always marveled that she had no bad angles, and a truly beautiful face.
I was 19-20 in 1965. I watched WML with my family for the entire run of the show, though I didn't understand much in the early '50s. It was our favorite show.
I named my daughter "Tiffany" after Jill's role as Tiffany Case in Diamonds are Forever. The line from Connery where he asks her about her unusual name and she says her mother went into labor with her while shopping at Tiffany's and Connery/Bond says: “Good thing it wasn’t Van Cleef and Arpels.”
Dearest Dorothy, the show was never the same without you. I'm crossing over soon, I hope you'll say hi to me on the other shore.. I'm sure my mother was a huge fan.
They were all so refined, elegant and intelligent. I loved the womens fashions and I love Dorothy and Arlene, Bennett and all of them. And John Daly had so much "virtuosity/verboseness" to quote Mr Cerf!
She is so lovely. One morning in Beverly Hills, about 2 years after this show, I saw a hot pink Corvette pull up to the curb, and she got out wearing a pink leather jumpsuit in the same shade. It was like a publicity layout in a movie magazine. She was amazing looking.
@@joeambrose3260 "Post Proof Pronto" Are you nuts? I wasn't a tourist, I was a teenager on my way to work, and certainly wasn't carrying a camera! This was 1965, there were no cell phone/cameras.
Two observations: 1. A female letter carrier was considered crazy in 1965. Second: . Daily, Randall, Frances and Kilgallen have what is called the "Atlantic accent." It's not quite totally British and not quite totally American. It was a deliberately created form of English accent taught in the north eastern USA to wealthy and upper class Americans. It was used as a class distinction device to identify educated elites from lower class people. It started around WW I but eventually died out. You still hear it sometimes; Kelsey Grammar as Fraiser Crane etc.
Diction was taught in many public schools into the 70’s. Now you’re blessed if someone pronounces the “T” sound and can say a grammatically-correct sentence.
Normally, when the panel doesn't get an occupation they put on their best smiling, amused face. But here, I LOVE Arlene's "You've got to be kidding me" face at 23:34 after they don't get the cat sitter. She recovers after a few seconds, but it's a rare, hilarious slip. Somebody needs to screen cap her look here.
But, less than a year after this WML appearance, she would be the Riddler's moll Molly, who meets a dissolving fate on the premiere two-part episode of "Batman".
You cannot underestimate the value of the key players on this show to its long term success. I am talking about John Daly, Bennett Cerf, Dorothy Kilgallen, and Arlene Francis. Each of them was so good at this game, made this game their craft, which made for continued high quality entertainment. So many other panelists came and went during the game's tenure, many were terrible, some just so-so, and some not bad. But these four personalities, by a large margin, surpass all others.
Jill made an appearance on my beloved BIG VALLEY = the role was originally to have been given to Richard Long's sweetie Mara Corday, but Richard pleaded "I can't work with her"...(!)...BARBARY RED was the ep. & the male co-star was George Kennedy.
Among other things, Jill St. John played the villain’s accomplice in the first episode of the Adam West Batman TV show. The episode features the famous “Batusi.” After witnessing the dance, St. John’s character exclaims “You shake a pretty mean cape, Batman!”
She was new on the Hollywood scene, and not well known yet. That's why she didn't get louder audience applause at signing in. It was loud-ish, given her beauty, and that some recognized her--but not loud like it would've been a few years later, say...after she'd been around a while, and especially, a Bond girl.
the lady mail carrier from the old westport part of kansas city mo, a great part of town, used to go there for great concerts at the uptown theater, muddy waters, the fabulous thunderbirds, nazareth, uriah heep, b.b. king... lots of great bars, restaurants, and live music. the kind of place with buskers.
Jill was Molly, The Riddler's henchwoman who fell into the BatCave's nuclear reactor, about the only death on Batman I believe. She went to Vietnam as John mentioned ( I loved her bit in that), and she starred in a Bond flick.
About the year 2010, I told my teenager that if he wanted tp impress his girlfriend's mom, he should stand up every time she enters the room. Later I realized that the gesture would probably appear silly, the mom probably wouldn't appreciate it, nor would she understand the significance of it.
I just don't understand the reason for such way in advance taping! That's more than 5 months before the airdate, I'll bet that anyone who knew about the Bob Hope Special had forgotten about it by then, and what if someone dies? Just a disclaimer at the top of the show. Gosh.
Joe Postove They pretaped shows in advance so they would have shows to air in August when they took time off from the show. +Vahan Nisanian I'd imagine they just picked a pretaped show at random to air. I don't follow why they would need a reason to air any one of the 4 or 5 shows pretaped to air in August on any particular Sunday in August sometimes possibly including the last Sunday in July and the first Sunday in Sept. It's like asking if I decide to eat 2 cookies after a meal, how do I decide which one to eat first and which to eat last. Maybe I'm missing something. :)
Joe Postove Re-reading your post, I see you're just wondering why they would tape it so far in advance. I guess they just pretaped a show here and there in advance so as to not get into a situation of having to get them done too close to August. Probably just convenience. They'd probably ask why not?
Well, with the recently posted episode (pretaped in April) with Anita Gillette as guest panelist and John mentioning her birthday as being tomorrow (Aug.16), at least in that case, they knew and planned exactly when that show would air. But in other cases, when nothing special like that was planned, I would assume they could decide to air any of several pretaped shows for no particular reason.
I don't know if this question has been asked on another episode's comments, but I would assume that there was always a third contestant in reserve for when the panel was particularly astute (quick) in guessing the occupations/mystery guest. My question is: what happened to the third contestant when they were NOT used?
Somehow Bennett and John missed a huge opportunity. After Bennett's story about the 7 year old neighbor who got 88 shaves with the same blade, they somehow fail to call him "A Little Shaver".
Wikipedia says:"St. John was born Jill Arlyn Oppenheim in Los Angeles, California, the daughter of Betty (née Goldberg, 1913-1998) and Edward Oppenheim, a prosperous restaurant owner". I wonder if she's Jewish?
Is this the first mention of Vietnam on the show? I recall some allusions to "the situation in South Asia" or something along those lines, but not a direct mention...
John Carper What's My Line? I managed to find the episode I was thinking of, and thereby answer my own question. :) On 3/15/64 the second guest was a foreign correspondent who had just returned from Vietnam and Laos. This was included in the description of her profession shown to the audience and also mentioned by John and the guest. The bit I was thinking about was when John said it was an "ugly situation over there." I guess there could have been an even earlier mention, but it seems unlikely.
Arlene is very beautiful (hard to believe she was 57 when this episode was filmed), intelligent and gracious, a very lovely lady. Always fun to see John and Bennett teasing each other.
So since we have a Bond Girl as a Mystery Guest, let me pose a question for fans of James Bond: Do you have any favorite Bond Girl actresses, past or present?
Jill rates in the top five for me, but ahead of her would be (1) Diana Rigg (2) Ursula Andress (3) Honor Blackman and (4) Izabella Scorupco (Goldeneye).
epaddon I definitely agree with you on 1, 2, and 3. I also would add the following to my list: Luciana Paluzzi ("Thunderball"; really amazing that her voice was left alone) Barbara Bach ("The Spy Who Loved Me"; future Mrs. Ringo Starr, she was an American queen of Italian b-movies at the time), and last but not least, Carey Lowell ("Licence to Kill").
***** But Vahan, you're agreeing with me on #1 (Rigg) as well! :) I would have loved to have included Caroline Munro, but unfortunately her part was frustratingly too small in Spy Who Loved Me.
From Wikipedia: Ms. St. John, 82, has been married 4 times, including to Robert Wagner, since 1990. Between marriages, St. John dated entertainment, sports, and political personalities including Ben Barnes, Gianni Bulgari, Sammy Cahn, Michael Caine, Oleg Cassini, Barry Coe, Sean Connery, Ahmet Ertegun, Robert Evans, Glenn Ford, David Frost, Jack Haley Jr., Bill Hudson, Henry Kissinger, Sidney Korshak, Sandy Koufax, Peter Lawford, George Lazenby, Jim Lonborg, Trini López, Tom Mankiewicz, George Montgomery, Jack Nicholson, Hugh O'Brian, Ogden Mills Phipps, Roman Polanski, Alejandro Rey, Tom Selleck, Frank Sinatra, U Thant, Robert Vaughn, Giovanni Volpi, Adam West and David L. Wolper. St. John has also had amorous relationships with criminal court judge Jerome M. Becker, ski instructor Ricky Head, Olympic ski champion Brownie Barnes, plastic surgeon Steven Zax, investment broker Lenny Ross, Chicago businessman Delbert W. Coleman and Brazilian entrepreneur Francisco "Baby" Pignatari. She was engaged to Miami real estate developer Robert Blum in 1974, but called off the engagement. Whew!
Jill St. John is alive at the age of 74! She has had four marriages and three famous husbands: Lance Reventlow (1960-1963) Jack Jones (1967-1969) Robert Wagner (1990-present)
+Joe Postove I saw her a few years ago at a restaurant with Robert Wagner and her skin was stretched so tight from plastic surgery it looked like it should split open.
Yeah, but get a load of the milk spouts! cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/112398786-robert-wagner-chita-rivera-and-jill-st-john-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=lGnjDs01aeQKqjld9R%2FRaUAttvTikigAaVso6OIBIauwjC1wLoWm7y5DC%2BdtEI3IhHQ2nVPJftvfNGBg3mpqnA%3D%3D
I'd love to see "The Alphabet Murders" sometime-- Tony Randall as Hercule Poirot! Though what I've read about the film indicates it was pretty terrible, done as a comedy rather than a faithful adaptation of "The ABC Murders" (which is, in my opinion, one of Agatha Christie's most cleverly plotted stories.)
What's My Line? I was a fanatic Agatha Christie fan when I was a teenager and I saw the movie on TV. But in those days I had no critical mind, so I just thought it was funny to watch Anita Ekberg and the funny Robert Morley. But I do recall that it was more funny than thrilling and that I didn't like Tony as Hercule Poirot. I think my slight aversion to him began there and then... (The book, as you say, is one of her best and I found it scary when I read it.)
+Joe Postove "Fluffy" was unceremoniously dumped in favor of "Amanda". It wouldn't be released in the U.S. until May 1966 (as early as Dec. 1965 in a few European countries) and by then the name of the U.S. release had been changed to "The Alphabet Murders". Tony Randall played Hercule Poirot. Anita Ekberg plays the part of Amanda Beatrice Cross.
Did anyone get the musical reference to Arlene's question "everything up to date in Kansas City?" It's from Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Oklahoma"??? NO? Listen and learn Grasshopper! LOL.
+What's My Line? Gary, are you aware that your video of the July 25, 1965 episode is being classified on UA-cam as a "Private Video"? Are you attempting to restore this video to public view? Are you still out there?
Dorothy Kilgallen who by December found dead, I think in her apartment under suspicious circumstances because of her work-career choices. They say she had an accident caused by prescription drugs and alcohol in her body's system...very odd...they were also gossiping that she was not dealing with the stress of her work-load, based-on her gender...I think that is all major B.S.!...Assume-nothing as context matters, not people's egos!
It seems odd to me that... even in 1965... a woman delivering mail would be called a "mailman." She even corrected Mr. Daly once her profession was revealed that she is called a mail carrier. I'm guessing the producers of the show felt it would be more amusing if they described her job as a mailman. Even back then it seems unlikely that a woman would be called a mailman.
I don't remember hearing a woman mail carrier called a "mailman." But I do remember that, when she was elected to Congress, Shirley Chisholm described herself as the "first Black woman Congressman."
It's Sad .. ..... I've Said it before but I'll say it again too as well.. While this is NOT proven fact I nonetheless think it unfortunate that Killgalan was Helped Along from time to time.. :/ Especially (perhaps) given fact that there were *Other* Additional Mystery Guests with even *Better* known voices that she (seemingly) (just) did not pick up on.. . 🤷🤷♀️🤷♂️
I was a Daly and can talk, and sometimes too much, but John wasted a lot of time that was unnecessary when the cat lady was on. He does it too often. No self-control once he gets going.
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This is my happy show, so peaceful in our chaotic world! Thank you!
And they speak so intelligently, that a person can learn to talk just listening to this show!
Jill St. John seemed so modest and humble. Her personality came across as incredibly genuine and very pleasant!!
I find it incredible that 50 years ago there was such a great show, loved it
More than 50 the show came on in 1950. You can watch the very first show on UA-cam.
There are others. Check out *My Mother the Car* , and *Gilligan's Island* . Doesn't get better.
@@carlsperr Figures out to be 72 long years ago (Aug. 2022). How the world has changed so drastically and as a far lower character and quality than in 1950.
Episodes made before Women's Lib. A female mail carrier was unthinkable.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it made a comeback
Jill is one of the 10 most beautiful women to ever appear as a Mystery Guest on this show, and THAT is saying A LOT!
You have to add Natalie Wood as one of those 10. Lee Remick is another.
She WAS beautiful, wasn't she? I remember her from the '60 and when she was in a James Bond film of that era (Diamonds are Forever, I think) and always marveled that she had no bad angles, and a truly beautiful face.
She was married to Jack Jones and is still alive, now marred to Robert Wagner.
I was 10 in 1965, and our family always watched What’s My Line & To Tell The Truth, such great nostalgic memories of that time.
I was born in 1956, but we also watched both those shows in the 60s🙂
I was 19-20 in 1965. I watched WML with my family for the entire run of the show, though I didn't understand much in the early '50s. It was our favorite show.
I named my daughter "Tiffany" after Jill's role as Tiffany Case in Diamonds are Forever. The line from Connery where he asks her about her unusual name and she says her mother went into labor with her while shopping at Tiffany's and Connery/Bond says: “Good thing it wasn’t Van Cleef and Arpels.”
I love tony Randall as a panelist!
He's my absolute favorite.
Dearest Dorothy, the show was never the same without you. I'm crossing over soon, I hope you'll say hi to me on the other shore.. I'm sure my mother was a huge fan.
James, you ok? Please stay with us.
Just wonderful
Dorothy was so smart.
They were all so refined, elegant and intelligent. I loved the womens fashions and I love Dorothy and Arlene, Bennett and all of them. And John Daly had so much "virtuosity/verboseness" to quote Mr Cerf!
He certainly got the "verbose" part right!
Jill St. John. Stunning 😊
Jill St. John simply gorgeous. Loved her in Jerry Lewis movie. Who's Minding the Store.
Loved her in Tony Rome with Sinatra. Her character's name was Ann Archer.
I liked her in Diamonds Are Forever (1971). 💎
She is so lovely. One morning in Beverly Hills, about 2 years after this show, I saw a hot pink Corvette pull up to the curb, and she got out wearing a pink leather jumpsuit in the same shade. It was like a publicity layout in a movie magazine. She was amazing looking.
Please post proof pronto, pics preferred
@@joeambrose3260 "Post Proof Pronto" Are you nuts? I wasn't a tourist, I was a teenager on my way to work, and certainly wasn't carrying a camera! This was 1965, there were no cell phone/cameras.
@@joeambrose3260Love your post, like a headline in Variety
You are truly missed, Tony Randall! I love you!!! ❤️
Two observations: 1. A female letter carrier was considered crazy in 1965. Second: . Daily, Randall, Frances and Kilgallen have what is called the "Atlantic accent." It's not quite totally British and not quite totally American. It was a deliberately created form of English accent taught in the north eastern USA to wealthy and upper class Americans. It was used as a class distinction device to identify educated elites from lower class people. It started around WW I but eventually died out. You still hear it sometimes; Kelsey Grammar as Fraiser Crane etc.
Thx. Was wondering about this accent, how it developed and reasons why it was utilized.
Diction was taught in many public schools into the 70’s. Now you’re blessed if someone pronounces the “T” sound and can say a grammatically-correct sentence.
Jill St. John is gorgeous. Too bad this show was not in color. The first contestant was also a gorgeous woman.
Normally, when the panel doesn't get an occupation they put on their best smiling, amused face. But here, I LOVE Arlene's "You've got to be kidding me" face at 23:34 after they don't get the cat sitter. She recovers after a few seconds, but it's a rare, hilarious slip. Somebody needs to screen cap her look here.
John Charles Daly was always so gracious with the guests.
Jill St. John went on to play a Bond Girl in Tiffany Case in "Diamonds are Forever" (1971).
The Bond movie Sean Connery never should have done (!), although I like the movie itself and the villains Mr Kidd and Mr Wint.
Yes, thank you.......the one tidbit of information EVERYBODY ia aware of!
But, less than a year after this WML appearance, she would be the Riddler's moll Molly, who meets a dissolving fate on the premiere two-part episode of "Batman".
It should be added that Jill was the first American actress to play a Bond girl. It makes sense since in the novel, Tiffany Case is American.
@@Beson-SE George Hamilton would have been a good Bond
You cannot underestimate the value of the key players on this show to its long term success. I am talking about John Daly, Bennett Cerf, Dorothy Kilgallen, and Arlene Francis. Each of them was so good at this game, made this game their craft, which made for continued high quality entertainment. So many other panelists came and went during the game's tenure, many were terrible, some just so-so, and some not bad. But these four personalities, by a large margin, surpass all others.
Timothy Burton - I agree but I would add Steve Allen as a guest panelist.
@@shirleyrombough8173 - Yep, I can agree with that. He was always entertaining.
I would add Steve Allen, Tony Randall and Martin Gable.
Stunning looks!
Jill was only 25 years old when this was recorded.
My grandmother was only 39
Jill St. John was a beauty in her younger years.
Everyone has such beautiful handwriting!
Jill made an appearance on my beloved BIG VALLEY = the role was originally to have been given to Richard Long's sweetie Mara Corday, but Richard pleaded "I can't work with her"...(!)...BARBARY RED was the ep. & the male co-star was George Kennedy.
I love Bennett Cerf's loud bursts of laughter!!!
Among other things, Jill St. John played the villain’s accomplice in the first episode of the Adam West Batman TV show. The episode features the famous “Batusi.” After witnessing the dance, St. John’s character exclaims “You shake a pretty mean cape, Batman!”
She's had a stellar career.
Jill go a lot further than I thought she would since she made no effort to disguise her voice.
She was new on the Hollywood scene, and not well known yet. That's why she didn't get louder audience applause at signing in. It was loud-ish, given her beauty, and that some recognized her--but not loud like it would've been a few years later, say...after she'd been around a while, and especially, a Bond girl.
Everything that is missing today is in this show.
I like that angle!
Some, but Definitely Not (at all) Everything that is in This Show IS (In Fact) "In" Today.. Lol
Dorothy’s expression at 24:54 was perfect. John Daley was so pedantic you could often see not only the panel’s but also the contestant’s eyes glaze.
Yes, but most of the time he was absolutely correct.
the lady mail carrier from the old westport part of kansas city mo, a great part of town, used to go there for great concerts at the uptown theater, muddy waters, the fabulous thunderbirds, nazareth, uriah heep, b.b. king... lots of great bars, restaurants, and live music. the kind of place with buskers.
Jill was Molly, The Riddler's henchwoman who fell into the BatCave's nuclear reactor, about the only death on Batman I believe. She went to Vietnam as John mentioned ( I loved her bit in that), and she starred in a Bond flick.
Wait......34 movies, including Frank Sinatra's TONY ROME, and you remember her for BATMAN???
@@TheCometHunter Batman was HUGE in 1966, and more popular than a ton of movies. People say, 'Burgess Meredith,' and the response is 'Penguin.'
Jill St. John is as pretty as an Iowa sunset.
One of the most beautiful Bond girls. Gorgeous woman.
Yummy too !!
Janice Fletcher was the loveliest mailman I've seen yet!!
And the men always stand up. Such a different time. I feel nostalgic for some of it.
About the year 2010, I told my teenager that if he wanted tp impress his girlfriend's mom, he should stand up every time she enters the room. Later I realized that the gesture would probably appear silly, the mom probably wouldn't appreciate it, nor would she understand the significance of it.
Tony Randall calling Arlene "the queen of any circuit." I love it!
This episode was videotaped on February 28, 1965.
I just don't understand the reason for such way in advance taping! That's more than 5 months before the airdate, I'll bet that anyone who knew about the Bob Hope Special had forgotten about it by then, and what if someone dies? Just a disclaimer at the top of the show. Gosh.
Joe Postove Again, how did they decide that this episode should air on August 1?That's what I wish I knew.
Joe Postove They pretaped shows in advance so they would have shows to air in August when they took time off from the show. +Vahan Nisanian I'd imagine they just picked a pretaped show at random to air. I don't follow why they would need a reason to air any one of the 4 or 5 shows pretaped to air in August on any particular Sunday in August sometimes possibly including the last Sunday in July and the first Sunday in Sept. It's like asking if I decide to eat 2 cookies after a meal, how do I decide which one to eat first and which to eat last. Maybe I'm missing something. :)
Joe Postove Re-reading your post, I see you're just wondering why they would tape it so far in advance. I guess they just pretaped a show here and there in advance so as to not get into a situation of having to get them done too close to August. Probably just convenience. They'd probably ask why not?
Well, with the recently posted episode (pretaped in April) with Anita Gillette as guest panelist and John mentioning her birthday as being tomorrow (Aug.16), at least in that case, they knew and planned exactly when that show would air. But in other cases, when nothing special like that was planned, I would assume they could decide to air any of several pretaped shows for no particular reason.
Brains and such beauty!
I don't know if this question has been asked on another episode's comments, but I would assume that there was always a third contestant in reserve for when the panel was particularly astute (quick) in guessing the occupations/mystery guest. My question is: what happened to the third contestant when they were NOT used?
Bob Schiller That third contestant was almost always from NYC or nearby, so it would seem they picked locals for that tenuous third spot
Bob Schiller They'll have got their appearance money like the others I'm sure otherwise there would've been a right fuss backstage!!
The third contestant was usually a local person, who could come back if not used.
Dorothy Kilgallen had astute inference talent, detectival acumen.
JudgeJulieLit The most powerful female voice of her generation, according to no less thsn Ernest Hemingway!
She also had a Range Rover.
And a face shaped like a peach
4:39 Nice reference by Arlene to the song from "Oklahoma!"
That cat lady's laugh sounds just like Broom-Hilda's cackle...
Yeah, at the end 😂.
isn't it amazing that what ever their job is they are never looked down on like i'm better than you from the panel or audience
I don’t see it as I’m better than you, but instead, what are you doing that for??
John Daly was the best of all of them 💜💜💜
She may not be the only one, but finally someone I’ve met who was on WML?! And correctly guessed by our beloved Dorothy!
Somehow Bennett and John missed a huge opportunity. After Bennett's story about the 7 year old neighbor who got 88 shaves with the same blade, they somehow fail to call him "A Little Shaver".
Lois Simmons. uuugh !!
LOL. That's hilarious!
I confess I don't get it.
What, no more plugs for "Fluffy"? I'm so disappointed.
Wahh! Want the old corny commercials "fluffy" or no.
What's My Line? yes esp since the last guest's line
It so happens that it was a VERY funny family movie!
@@debthekid commercials were not fluffy but flaky given that Kellogg's was the sponsor of this episode.
@@TheCometHunterI want to watch it but can't find it.
Love this!!!
Wikipedia says:"St. John was born Jill Arlyn Oppenheim in Los Angeles, California, the daughter of Betty (née Goldberg, 1913-1998) and Edward Oppenheim, a prosperous restaurant owner". I wonder if she's Jewish?
Although one must always pause before relying on that extremely corrupt site, the answer is yes.
Why is that any of your business?
Joe Postove. She's Jewish, but born in 1940.
+D Casper
It was Jill's mother who was born in 1913.
She is
Just looked up Jill St. John on Wikipedia. She has an extended list of male friends. You go girl!
incredible beauty
Jill St. John’s real name is Jill Oppenheim.
Is this the first mention of Vietnam on the show? I recall some allusions to "the situation in South Asia" or something along those lines, but not a direct mention...
Reluctant Dragon It's the first mention I remember so far.
NOTE: This proves nothing. My memory is rubbish.
John Carper What's My Line? I managed to find the episode I was thinking of, and thereby answer my own question. :) On 3/15/64 the second guest was a foreign correspondent who had just returned from Vietnam and Laos. This was included in the description of her profession shown to the audience and also mentioned by John and the guest. The bit I was thinking about was when John said it was an "ugly situation over there."
I guess there could have been an even earlier mention, but it seems unlikely.
Reluctant Dragon Before March 1964 would seem extremely unlikely, yes. Nice catch.
This was when public opinion was still in favor of the war.
Johan Bengtsson Bear in mind, it wasn't much of a war in 1964. There wasn't much public opinion about it either way in 1964.
LOL OMG it was hard to fathom a woman would be a mailman and this is within my life time. 🤣 Crazy world!
What about vice president of the United States?
"Mr DeOrio, does your product kill vampires?"
Now there's a question that's never been uttered on WML. :)
David Von Pein David Von Pein, the John Charles Daly of the undead version of What's My Line.
The Count Von Pein is quite right. the question should be "Does your product ward off vampires?"
What's My Line? David Von Pein soulierinvestments C'mon guys! We need more of this stuff, and I don't mean vampires! ;)
SuperWinterborn SW, did you mean to say c'mon. c'mon? If so, I'll have to make up a bill.
Dorothy gets some many of these guests right.
Arlene is very beautiful (hard to believe she was 57 when this episode was filmed), intelligent and gracious, a very lovely lady. Always fun to see John and Bennett teasing each other.
I have seen two of Jill's husbands on this show, Jack Jones & Robert Wagner
I keep my garlic in my fridge. And only use it with making Italian food.
So since we have a Bond Girl as a Mystery Guest, let me pose a question for fans of James Bond:
Do you have any favorite Bond Girl actresses, past or present?
Jill rates in the top five for me, but ahead of her would be (1) Diana Rigg (2) Ursula Andress (3) Honor Blackman and (4) Izabella Scorupco (Goldeneye).
epaddon I definitely agree with you on 1, 2, and 3. I also would add the following to my list:
Luciana Paluzzi ("Thunderball"; really amazing that her voice was left alone)
Barbara Bach ("The Spy Who Loved Me"; future Mrs. Ringo Starr, she was an American queen of Italian b-movies at the time),
and last but not least, Carey Lowell ("Licence to Kill").
***** But Vahan, you're agreeing with me on #1 (Rigg) as well! :) I would have loved to have included Caroline Munro, but unfortunately her part was frustratingly too small in Spy Who Loved Me.
I don't really have a favorite, but Jane Seymour was very beautiful in live and let die.
Jill and Diana Rigg would be my choices.
From Wikipedia:
Ms. St. John, 82, has been married 4 times, including to Robert Wagner, since 1990.
Between marriages, St. John dated entertainment, sports, and political personalities including Ben Barnes, Gianni Bulgari, Sammy Cahn, Michael Caine, Oleg Cassini, Barry Coe, Sean Connery, Ahmet Ertegun, Robert Evans, Glenn Ford, David Frost, Jack Haley Jr., Bill Hudson, Henry Kissinger, Sidney Korshak, Sandy Koufax, Peter Lawford, George Lazenby, Jim Lonborg, Trini López, Tom Mankiewicz, George Montgomery, Jack Nicholson, Hugh O'Brian, Ogden Mills Phipps, Roman Polanski, Alejandro Rey, Tom Selleck, Frank Sinatra, U Thant, Robert Vaughn, Giovanni Volpi, Adam West and David L. Wolper.
St. John has also had amorous relationships with criminal court judge Jerome M. Becker, ski instructor Ricky Head, Olympic ski champion Brownie Barnes, plastic surgeon Steven Zax, investment broker Lenny Ross, Chicago businessman Delbert W. Coleman and Brazilian entrepreneur Francisco "Baby" Pignatari.
She was engaged to Miami real estate developer Robert Blum in 1974, but called off the engagement.
Whew!
Jill St. John is alive at the age of 74! She has had four marriages and three famous husbands:
Lance Reventlow (1960-1963)
Jack Jones (1967-1969)
Robert Wagner (1990-present)
+Joe Postove I saw her a few years ago at a restaurant with Robert Wagner and her skin was stretched so tight from plastic surgery it looked like it should split open.
Yeah, but get a load of the milk spouts! cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/112398786-robert-wagner-chita-rivera-and-jill-st-john-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=lGnjDs01aeQKqjld9R%2FRaUAttvTikigAaVso6OIBIauwjC1wLoWm7y5DC%2BdtEI3IhHQ2nVPJftvfNGBg3mpqnA%3D%3D
Joe Postove
No wonder Robert Wagner is smiling.
Jeff Vaughn She probably saw you and said to Robert 'check out this fat ugly git looking at me". :)
Jack Jones why didn’t you continue ?
Paul Dance. she spent too much of his money..
D Casper: and he had plenty of or during his Grammy years I heard he was making 1/4 mil a month, that’s back in the 60’s yikes
In 1965, Tony made two British films: "The Alphabet Murders" (a.k.a. "Amanda") and "Our Man in Marrakesh" (a.k.a. "Bang! Bang! You're Dead!")
Coming off the stunning international success of "Fluffy". :-)
I'd love to see "The Alphabet Murders" sometime-- Tony Randall as Hercule Poirot! Though what I've read about the film indicates it was pretty terrible, done as a comedy rather than a faithful adaptation of "The ABC Murders" (which is, in my opinion, one of Agatha Christie's most cleverly plotted stories.)
What's My Line? Anita Ekberg played the part as Amanda and Robert Morley the part as Hastings.
Johan Bengtsson Have you actually seen it, or are you just relaying internet credits? If you've seen it, I'm curious what you thought of the movie.
What's My Line? I was a fanatic Agatha Christie fan when I was a teenager and I saw the movie on TV. But in those days I had no critical mind, so I just thought it was funny to watch Anita Ekberg and the funny Robert Morley. But I do recall that it was more funny than thrilling and that I didn't like Tony as Hercule Poirot. I think my slight aversion to him began there and then... (The book, as you say, is one of her best and I found it scary when I read it.)
With all of that cat talk you think we could have squeezed a "Fulffy" mention out somewhere along the way!
Let it go...Tony Randall isn't exactly what you'd call an Oscar-worthy movie star! Allow him to have his non-television successes!
+Joe Postove
"Fluffy" was unceremoniously dumped in favor of "Amanda". It wouldn't be released in the U.S. until May 1966 (as early as Dec. 1965 in a few European countries) and by then the name of the U.S. release had been changed to "The Alphabet Murders". Tony Randall played Hercule Poirot. Anita Ekberg plays the part of Amanda Beatrice Cross.
I'm a retired mail carrier, although I drove my own jeep.
I have bitten by dogs lol
Lucy Florey - But did she ever bite any back?
*_U.S. MAILMAN_*
*_PACKS GARLIC_*
*_RUNS CAT SITTING SERVICE_*
"Amanda" must be Fluffy's real name.
Married to Robert Wagner - I wonder if she avoids boats.
I wonder if she knows Bob Wagner is bisexual.
Mark Shere. She had better...
Jill St. John's IQ was measured over the genius level. Also, in spite of the rather christian name she was raised a nice jewish girl.
Randy Bailin I believe she was either of Austrian or German descent. Her original name was Jill Arlyn Oppenheim.
No wonder Henry Kissinger supposedly dated her.
Chris Barat Henry Kissinger said that "power is the ultimate aphrodisiac". Yeah, carpet bombing innocent Cambodians is a definite turn on! Joe
+Don R. Mueller, Ph.D. You can be smart and dumb at the same time -- smart in some things and dumb in others.
That may be but Robert did kill her
badass bond girl, Mrs Jill
2024
Love this with all my heart ❤
From an early Simpsons episode, Bart referred to a female mail carrier as a "Fe-Mail-Man"
If a cat fell asleep in the tub while taking a bath, would the cackling cat lady be able to hear it?
I suspect that game one would have been less amusing if she had been described as a "U S Mail Carrier."
I am a Swedish Mail Carrier. :)
I was at one time involved in U S Mail customer service and complaints. I am afraid that would have generated no humor on WML
Johan Bengtsson Is true that "going postal" in Sweden means to perhaps dampen the mood just a little?
Joe Postove I am not familiar with that expression.
soulierinvestments "U S Mail customer service and complaints". Ever have the slightest need to go a little "postal"?
Ho ho ho Tony.. 🍎
She is UN-REAAAL
Did anyone get the musical reference to Arlene's question "everything up to date in Kansas City?" It's from Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Oklahoma"??? NO? Listen and learn Grasshopper! LOL.
Jill didn't deskize her voice.
Philippa Pay,
Yes, I also find it a bit surprising this was aired so close to Dorothy's death.
+What's My Line?
Gary, are you aware that your video of the July 25, 1965 episode is being classified on UA-cam as a "Private Video"? Are you attempting to restore this video to public view? Are you still out there?
Please follow-up and post findings
@@joeambrose3260 Or else what?
@@loissimmons6558 You tell me. The ball's in your court
@@joeambrose3260 Good. Or else I will ignore you.
@@loissimmons6558 Why so snippy, Snippy ?
I must confess I only watch this for the so-called celebrity appearance to see if I know who this person is, being before my time of existance!
The so called celebrities were better than today's celebrities
The cat sitter laughed like a cat 😺
Dorothy Kilgallen who by December found dead, I think in her apartment under suspicious circumstances because of her work-career choices. They say she had an accident caused by prescription drugs and alcohol in her body's system...very odd...they were also gossiping that she was not dealing with the stress of her work-load, based-on her gender...I think that is all major B.S.!...Assume-nothing as context matters, not people's egos!
The cat sitter looks like a cat sitter.
Why don't the game show network have any High Stakes Poker games anymore?
Are you doing drugs??? What the bleeding HELL does high-stakes poker have to do with vintage WHAT"S MY LINE episodes?
FYI - your grammar sucks!
It seems odd to me that... even in 1965... a woman delivering mail would be called a "mailman." She even corrected Mr. Daly once her profession was revealed that she is called a mail carrier. I'm guessing the producers of the show felt it would be more amusing if they described her job as a mailman. Even back then it seems unlikely that a woman would be called a mailman.
oldwestguy It was a different time. No offense was intended, and few were offended.
I don't remember hearing a woman mail carrier called a "mailman." But I do remember that, when she was elected to Congress, Shirley Chisholm described herself as the "first Black woman Congressman."
I would say Bennett guesses wrong 80% of the time lol
It's Sad .. ..... I've Said it before but I'll say it again too as well.. While this is NOT proven fact I nonetheless think it unfortunate that Killgalan was Helped Along from time to time.. :/ Especially (perhaps) given fact that there were *Other* Additional Mystery Guests with even *Better* known voices that she (seemingly) (just) did not pick up on.. . 🤷🤷♀️🤷♂️
It sounds like she didn't even try to disguise her voice
They're laughing at you Tony because of how you asked your first question. The use of dramatic voice isn't needed on a gameshow lol
Jill St. John was 24
I was a Daly and can talk, and sometimes too much, but John wasted a lot of time that was unnecessary when the cat lady was on. He does it too often. No self-control once he gets going.
1928gerry I think it's a small concession to accept while having the immensely resourceful moderator in the house.
She was such a babe!
Dracula's enemy hahaha
Joe Postove and Jeff Vaughn: coarse and typically juvenile remarks.
Dorothy did not look well in this one, so close to the end.
Why would someone connect themselves with someone who murdered his wife so VIOLENTLY? Horrible woman
Don't be so silly.
Life can be sad. They are all now dead, basically.
basically dead ?!
Kinda, sorta dead...