'Crown jewels' looted by British soldiers returned to Ghana on loan | BBC News
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- The UK is sending some of Ghana's "crown jewels" back home, 150 years after looting them from the court of the Asante king.
A gold peace pipe is among 32 items returning under long-term loan deals, the BBC can reveal.
The Victoria & Albert Museum (V&A) is lending 17 pieces and 15 are from the British Museum.
Ghana's chief negotiator said he hoped for "a new sense of cultural co-operation" after generations of anger.
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It's an insult to 'loan' a stolen object to the rightful owners. The proper thing is to 'give' them back to whom it belongs.
What makes them the "rightful owners"?
@@user-ds8rj2vc4v what doesn’t?
@@user-ds8rj2vc4v their history belongs to them. Not to the european invaders.do u have any idea about common sense😅.
@@manithrupasinghe8744 go and learn some history as to why the British Army was there. I thought you hated slavery?
Exactly
Ghana should suddenly pass a reciprocal law that does not allow the return of stolen cultural property that is in the nation on loan.
Exactly
Not yet. It'll suddenly happen, across the oppressed and free world.
Then what will happen with the rest of the stolen artefacts taken by these thieves?
This is just a small portion of what was taken from the African continent.
Yes
Loan is code for RETURNED PERMANANTLY
Those museums would be practically empty if they were forced to return everything that was looted!!!!
I disagree,,it would be left with atleast sheep woolies
"practically" ?? They would be completely empty.
@@TabsT-vy5jy and the Irish would get up their 👃 we've gotten crazy as the world and I just love it
@@TabsT-vy5jy I'm sure there are some British relics too, which is why I said "practically". But who knows, even they might have been looted from their owners too!
@@pbworld7858 only Roman artefacts which as you know the Romans looted from start to finish.
Did anyone hear about thieves returning stolen property to owners on loans? What a stupid thieve? The thieve must be charged for the crime and fined.
The ashanti themselves were thieves and kidnappers. They were known for looting gold and selling slaves to the bristish
Ghana is seizing these jewels and artifacts back PERMANENTLY don't let the internet lie to you that this is on loan
This is beyond shameful, but as someone said “You cannot shame the shameless”.
Briton only recently paid off the debt they built up stopping slavers like these. Im sure these items made a very small dent in that overall cost.
Indeed, "you cannot shame the shameless".
Never Doc
but it wasn't stolen neither was the Indian jewel that was gaven to the queen as a gift. wish people would read their history instead of slandering a nation. People only have a problem with the British empire because it was white. no body ever moans about ghengis Khan and his empire. or the ottoman empire or the roman empire they all raped and pillaged to why is it just Britain that gets called out because it is white. grow up and read some books you all have like 3 brain cells
@@curiositycloset2359 Britain people paid for their own oppression, not to pay off any 'debt' for ending slavery. That is such a ridiculous belief. Slavery NEVER ended, it transitioned, and another excuse was made to exploit white people on the ground directly with an excuse of ending slavery and it gave the English or Europeans a distortion of themselves as many do not know they were manipulated and deceived to become slaves themselves (just not in the fashion we are mostly familiar with).
Once in Ghana those items should be protected not to be returned to the thieves 😅
How did the Ghana get the gold, peacefully or was it plundered.
@@Cybertruck1000 doesnt matter. Empire building is human history. Both the british and the ghana have waged wars. Problem for brittan is that ghana is still around
@@Cybertruck1000 Ghana was formerly called Gold Coast - it had gold almost everywhere, even till date we still have a lot of Gold.
@@Cybertruck1000from the ground. I know it’s hard to believe for some races of people but not everything has to be gotten through plunder.
@@Cybertruck1000Ghana was formerly known as the Gold coast. Currently if it even rains really hard in my hometown in Ghana, it’s easier to find gold . It’s very easy to find gold in Ghana without stress
A thief takes your bike then lend it back to you on a loan 😂😂
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Ghana is seizing these jewels and artifacts back PERMANENTLY don't let the internet lie to you that this is on loan
I love the illustration Nana Ayim gave. It's absolutely stupid for them to be saying that they want to loan what was looted to the rightful owner. I would advise Ghana to accept it and never to return it back to them.
I agree with you
Exactly
Except, these items were taken as recompense to pay for the very expensive effort to end global slavery. But of course, no one's really talking about why the British went there.
@curiositycloset2359 Gold. The British wanted to establish a resident in Kumasi, but the Ashanti king refused. He wanted to keep them out. The French, the Germans, I believe, and the British.
@@theafricanjumbee4057 I must say, defending ritual sacrifice, and slavery, is a great position to hold. Certainly puts you on the moral side of the argument. Good show. What a fine culture.
Imagine stealing something from someone and then enacting laws that will prohibit you from returning it. This is ridiculous and shameful. I feel very sad about this whole thing.
Stealing ? The kingdom of Benin and Togo ( Ghana, Nigeria)was the centre of the african slave trade for a recorded 5500 years. When the english government declared slavery illegal in 1830, after 250 years of slave trading, it started to send trade envoys to the slavers to try and replace slavery income with other income. The africans did not want to do this. The Maasi, The Zulu, The Xhosa the Swazi did not want to stop... being "proud" warrior nations who took other africans into slavery. So they slaughtered the envoys. The english reacted by attacking and then taking the defeated enemies possessions, as was custom in africa ... and freeing their slaves... which was NOT common in africa. The Benin Bronzes were a part of that penalty.
None of those slaver tribes admit or apologise for their past. Nigeria and Ghana became rich thru slavery but will not even help their own poor, let alone any other african nation that suffered from their continued attacks over thousands of years.. dragged across the sahara to arabia and the orient and egypt to die in chains. Then sold to the new trans atlantic trade.
Africans whos ancestors enslaved other africans are calling for the working class in the uk to pay compensation. A working class that did not benefit.. some of whom were still "slaves" by indenture long after slavery was outlawed.
And africans still enslave other africans.
Rewriting history does not wash a soul clean
So you've never been in a history class then...
Imagine being the Ashanti empire, pillaging and enslaving your neighbours and then getting your a-se handed to you by an outside power which, as per all the other wars in human history, then took spoils and kept them safe for 200 years
Are you sad about what the Ashanti did too? Will you be demanding that they account for themselves to their neighbours today?
britain did far more pillaging, plundering and mudring all across the world than ashanti empire ever didd@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
when is britain going to pay reparations to ireland for its 800 year occupation of ireland@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
I'm British and i think these items should go to and remain in Africa.
goods and other resources too and the britts around the world should return to their own land.
No one cares
@@Cybertruck1000why will u care cos you've already enriched yourselves with wat u stole n still stealing n ppl you've murdered n still murdering in/from Africa
Course you are!
@@Durka-Durka01 What
the audacity of these people for me is mind blowing and why would anyone agree to this. Honestly they lack no shame!
Pretty sure Ghana is "agreeing" & then will simply never return it.
I hope so @@SafetySpooon
Ghana is seizing these jewels and artifacts back PERMANENTLY don't let the internet lie to you that this is on loan
Ghana should pass a law saying that the stolen pieces are to never leave Ghana 🇬🇭
Any thing that is stolen can never be owned by the thief.
Jobiden2020 👍😉
Don't expect a bbc audience to get that.@@briansmith8490
Although that sounds nice it's nonsense when you think about it, I have a bag of tools out there somewhere getting used by someone who isn't me so he may as well own them because i don't.
@@briansmith8490that's exactly how much sense this guys comment made to me.
The entirety of human history would disagree
RETURN AS LOAN ? ! ! WTF ! ! ! SHAME ON YOU UK ! ! !
Return back also Ghana people they stolen and they own family decendant money !.shit colonial & cruelty imperial
❤❤❤...when era is ending, shamelessly.
I wish Osagyefo is still alive, may he rest well. Otumfuo will never return them, he is a BRAVE KING✊
No he is not 😅
The British should rather pay interest on the items, not Ghanaians taking it on loan. How does that makes sense. It's mental slavery to me. Nonsense
Imagine a burgler being busted and then being ordered to "loan" back the stolen property. 🤣
Empires are criminal enterprises, monarchy is fascism with fancy hats, the UK is legitimately proud of their historical evils and thinks they saved the world's cool stuff from being stolen by stealing it first...
Why didn't Ghana ask for this before?
Why should they have to ask for something that was stolen from them, if any normal person did this they would be arrested immediately and the object would be returned, they can get away with it because they control the jails and have overwhelming physical power.
@@MP-ix1mo They never cared before now, did they? None of these things were an issue for decades despite Ghana having become an independent country in the 60s
But you're right, we need to have a global reckoning. We need to examine all the museums, we need to look at the slaving that was done, all the land that was stolen by all the different countries on planet earth and we need to have justice!
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
Have you ever tried nicely asking your robber if they would kindly return the property they stole from you?
If you haven't, here is a spoiler- it rarely ends well for the victim.
That gold is 24 karate pure gold.
Does karate gold throw kicks and punches when someone attempts to steal it?
yes pure stealing
@@Random_cleans beat me to that one
The Ashanti king can give back the same quantity of gold in exchange. But that's not just mere objects but of spiritual importance...
Highly doubtful
Please, Ghana, do NOT return these stolen treasures from your glorious legacy. Then sue them for what they did.
Such an insult to we Ghanians… wicked British. How can you steal something from us and now that you are finding it difficult to keep it to yourself, you want to return it back as loan. The gold has turned into fire and they can’t hold it again 😂, whatever else that is hidden will definitely come to light. Whatever that was stolen from Africa will be returned in full. This is eye opening 🎉
The laws of the Ashanti's will be edited: Loans from stolen items must not be sent back once received😊
the laws and customs of the Ashanti are why the British Army was there in the first place: the British were stamping out the Ashanti's attachment to slavery - the source of their wealth. But idiot revisionists prefer to pretend that Africans were all sweetness and light, and never hurt anyone.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 besides how can you get in trouble for taking back what was always yours FINDERS KEEPERS
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Why should it be on loan
Ridiculous and shameful
I had to read the "loan" again. I thought I was hallucinating.
I think it should be given back then tell them to go away and stop asking for anything else that would be free . I would imagine the loan though would be to stop the corrupt politicians in Africa selling the for their own gain. They are no better than Western politicians
Totally, imagine if someone stole something from you then years later loaned it back to you. It’s madness and we should give it back
@@breadstick4458 Have you not seen how African leaders have run things? They are mostly ruthless money laundering criminals who live it up in a mansion and dont give a penny to help there own starving dieing people a stones through away. Get real, it's a loan precisely for the reason that it cant be sold because you know it would be sold pretty fast.
@@brainites Do your research on African politics and then you will understand why it's a loan.
The most insulting deal I’ve witnessed in my four decades life on this planet
In my 77 years of life, it’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard of, when growing up I had no idea these things happened. I know that if it was a member of the public that had stolen anything they would have to return a=it or if they didn’t have it or destroyed it they would have to make reparations, for the theft. Receiving stolen goods is worse crime than the actual theft of them so the courts rule in England. Britain wouldn’t have many museum items left, if and when they gave them all back to the countries they were stolen from, same as most of our allied colonialist countries in Europe. It’s very wicked they don’t just return them, honestly instead of saying we will loan them to the tribes owner the royal Ashanti family, the Ashanti tribe along with many large tribes throughout AFRICA WERE VERY CULTURED CIVIL ORGANISED SOCIETIES THOUGH THE EUROPEANS MADE OUT THEY WERE SAVAGES. IT IS US BRITISH AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, WHO WERE THE BARBARIANS DOING WICKEDNESS WITH OUR WEAPONS GUNS AND CANNONS, AS WE STILL DO TODAY. LOOTING STILL GOING ON LOOK AT IRAQ AFGHANISTAN SYRIA VERY OLD CIVILISATIONS THEY STOLE MOST ALL IRAQS ARTEFACTS WITH WARS BUILT ON LIES. I FEEL ASHAMED TO BE BRITISH THESE DAYS AFTER LOSING A GRANDFATHER GREAT GRANDFATHER AND OTHER RELATIVES IN TWO WORLD WARS FOR THE WORLD TO BE FREE, WE STILL DO THE SAME ONLY WEAPONS ARE WORSE KILL MORE PEOPLES. Sorry for caps eyes not clear just then.😢😭
It's a big insult to loan a stolen item to the owner 😢😢😢.... God have mercy
I still don't get the idea of loaning an item which is stolen.
I don't even get it too
It’s called audacity just like they have audacity to start the slave trade then turn around and point blame to us Africans as the creators of it rubbish
If it's illegal to give it back permanently, then it's either loaning or nothing.
Having said that, they're not stolen by definition.
You dont get it? why, are you dense or something?
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Then to get around the law, the UK should “loan” the items back to Ghana for an indefinite period of time (meaning forever)
This is not Ghana government. The Ghana government stand is to return all artefacts permanently.
The Ghanaian government is incompetent and amateurs
Ghana government can suck an egg. They don't have any claim just because they occupy the same geographical region from people hundreds of years ago.
Who gives a crap what the Ghanaian government think?
@@toekneekerching9543Why are you so triggered? You're all over the comments section defending theft. You try to lecture the world about morals while stoop to defending looting.
@@toekneekerching9543 Lol. The Ghanaian wealth built your infrastructure and now your infrastructure will crumble! Strap up old boy!
Its too heavy for uk to say "we have returned the items permanently " so they enact a funny law. But the fact is those items are returned permanently. They have indirectly accepted defeat.
What an insult... How do u loan back a stolen goods. I blame the leaders who negotiated with this agreement.
Our ancestors blood won’t die forever … long live Ghana my home; long live Africa my motherland.
LOAN! These people are beyond reprobate!
They loan it back , we dont give it back!!!
#Ghana needs all heritage,relics,artefacts back
Not only ghana, the whole of Africa, and many other countries as well. A world wide PEACEFUL protest is needed to bring attention to this.
@@cma21191 well said
This is beyond outrageous.
No it's not, they loan items back so it's secured in contracts before fees are repaided back, such as transportation, security and even tracking costs money to do, via a loan system, both parties are held accountable for anyone happening to the artificacts than the country getting it returned back, otherwise that country WILL LOSE EVERYTHING IF THAT ARTIFACT IS STOLEN, please do study up how UK uses its loan system, quite embarrassing from someone who waves a Russian flag or Ukrainian one!
Clearly you know nothing about how Britian works do you???
Granted it's been looted over a hundred years ago, however, who is responsible for that? No longer Britain nor Africa, hence the whole shared contract for returning goods back, otheriwse again, THEY COULD GET STOLEN BY OTHERS ONCE MORE!!!!
@@roserobson6707Kumasi museum has never been robbed but nice excuse.
Don’t take it back I know my people!!!
@@roserobson6707 😂😂 you are very funny. Saying ridiculously funny things .. 🤥 🤥
What a shame they always want and take what is not theirs SMH
Who's "they"? The Ashanti who pillaged and enslaved their neighbours and then lost wars to the British who, as per all the other wars in human history, took spoils? Those guys?
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rpWho led the Asantes in a War against the British in 1900?
Nana Yaa Asantewaa
The Asantehene Nana Agyeman Prempeh 1 was captured, and Nana Yaa Asantewaa led an army of the Asantes to force the British to release their king. The early 19th century: The first British people arrived at the coast of what is the present Ghana as traders.
GIVE THEIR STUFF BACK & STOP SHIFTING THE BLAME THEY WENT TO WAR BECAUSE BRITIAN WAS TRYING TO COLONISE THEIR LAND NOT BRITAINS BESIDES STOP THE BULLCRAPP EXCUSES BECAUSE IF YOU HAD ALWAYS FELT THAT YOU NEVER NEEDED TO GIVE BACK WAR BOOTY THEN WHAT'S THIS???On 6th March, 1957 Prime Minister of Ghana, Dr Kwame Nkrumah declare de country free from British Colonial rule.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now stop this nonsense & give them back their jewelry
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
Nonsense 😏
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp are the Ashanti people still doing the wrong thing in 2024? It seems the Europeans still want to be barbarians
@@nanakwadwo8355 The Ashanti empire needs to account for itself. We are waiting
That is a total insult. A thief longing a stolen item to its rightful owner
The existence of a certain people is a earthly insult.
I bet you, Otumfuo won't allow these items to return back to England.
They would’ve most likely have had to put up collateral to even qualify for this ‘loan’, to hedge against that possibility
He won't in a million years
Look at the faces of thieves without shame. Loaning looted objects back to their rightful owners? How incredible and unbelievable this is?
The Gonja Kingdom is waiting for Asante to return looted ancient manuscripts taken in the 1700s too. Asante is demanding its cultural artefacts but not entertaining any discussions about returning treasures and artefacts they looted when they conquered others during wars
@@tvs9978 start negotiatiions with the Asantehene. You can't come here and speak on behalf of the colonizer.
@@abk6877 do you know why the British were there? Hint, the uk only recently paid of the debt incurred in stopping the global slave trade.
@@abk6877 what do the Gonjas have to do with the colonisers? The fact that you cannot address a relevant issue without deflecting shows your lack of moral character. It's clear your fake outrage is less about the principle and more about your misplaced sense of victimhood.
@@tvs9978 who should fight your fight for you? It is in the interest of the Asantehene to bring back looted items from wars that they didn't start. If you care to get your items from the Asantehene what prevents you from initiating the process? Do not be an idle and lazy looser?
Everyday i learn about how our people were civilised and rich before colonization. # true wealth
This is strange. Instead of compensating the true owners they ask for payments? Its really terrible. I think they should be returned not only to Ghana but Africa freely and in good faith
Someone here said why is Ghana just asking for their stolen items back. I believe they were always asking, it's just in the spotlight now like every other country has been asking.
Ghana government will never take the items back on “loan”. The Asante case is a lil different because of there is a very well known personal relationship between the Asantehene and King Charles which I believe is not captured by any law. I don not agree to the “ loan” in anyway but I also know enough to acknowledge why and how this could happen.
There are way more gold ashanti artifacts that they are still keeping
On loan?! This is stupid. How do you return something you stole from someone as loan?
This is one of the most degrading thing I've ever heard and the African dude saying the stolen items being "Loaned" back is not an issue borders on sheer stupidity.. SMH! 🤦🏽♂
If they return all the loot king will be naked 😂
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If these are eventually handed back then, if we’re being consistent, every ‘looted’ object in every museum on the planet needs to be returned to where it was looted from.
Lol! The museums of Western Europe are going to be empty😂
Don't tempt us with a good time... 😂
Also, why are you using quotes? British soldiers went to Ghana, killed people, and stole their stuff. It was looted. Period.
And just about every other nation/empire on this planet _hasn’t_ gone to other places and ‘stolen their stuff’, I suppose.
No
European museums are where they belong because it's where they can be taken care of properly. If you do send stuff back, many priceless artifacts will be destroyed. Sending priceless artifacts back to Africa, a violent and savage place, will only ensure that someone will steal them or there will be a fire or something else to damage them. It's happened before.
Never to be returned to the divided kingdom, it belongs to the great people of Ghana.
So Ghana should never give it back
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One cannot lend out what one has stolen. That is illegal according to British Law. Ghana should now keep what is rightfully theirs and loan these artifacts to the British museums. Britain apparently does not want to be tried for its war crimes in the Hague.
African you need to wake up coz we've been sleeping for the longest
It's not only about Africa
Sleeping on the oppression and theft of millions of Africans...which the British went to war with and destroyed the slave trade.
The audacity…if the King gives them back after they’ve been in the Manhyia Palace, what would that mean politically?
Imagine a thief stealing your car then letting you loan it now and then bloody shameful
How can you be loaning something to someone you stole from? Crazy wold we lived in.
Someone once said "if the Brits could carry the pyramids they would've looted it" how can you loan something which is not yours? I urge the Ghanean people to keep these artefacts permanently, DON'T GIVE IT BACK.
...and Gibraltar too!
It will not be back, my fear is the Brits making an inferior gold replica of it.
Ghana does not have to give anything back, you can't give something back that belongs to Ghana.
What is UK gonna do, invade Ghana again?
You can in war. That was just a thing back then before the Geneva convention
@@keplermission Gibraltar is a completely different example. Gibraltans don't want to be part of Spain.
You stole them and now you "loan" them back? Wow...
They were the spoils of war and every nation and tribe on planet earth has taken them
Cope harder,
They were the spoils of war. The Ashanti were well known for the brutal enslavement of their neighbours and you're worried that the British fought to stop them. Wow!
@@knockedoutloadedthen what about other stolen artifacts 😂 do you think every country practiced slavery and British came and gave punishment bull**it
@@knockedoutloadedliar. Give it back you thieves. There were no war, like always they say they come to trade when in fact they always come to Africa to kill and loot.
The UK people and BBC if still have any dignity left should tell their government to return looted jewels and artifacts back to their respective countries.
On loan??😡 i would NEVER send them back. THEY WERE STOLLEN!!
In loan??? They are stolen goods, they should be returned with a grovelling apology
Lmfao no way
They were the spoils of war and every nation and tribe on planet earth has taken them. Are you going to be lecturing the Chinese, Russians, Arabs and Africans about this?
there giving them back. there is no on loan
Who do you think you are, that you have the right to apologise on behalf of the soldiers that fought for and captured these items?
We took them from slavers r*tard...
Hands up of you an Asante. The greatest people in the world
well, you were damned good at enslaving your African neighbours, ay? You're still sore that the British went it to stamp that out?
Cough cough horrifically violent slave empire
Fact❤🎉
One of the greatest, since there are many great people as well.
UK is never ashamed of its shameful past. It actually boast about it. Indeed, one cannot shame the shameless 😢!
Ewie, botey!
This is so weird, Britain has no shame.
Returning their stolen artifacts…on loan…?
They were the spoils of war and every nation and tribe on planet earth has taken them
Otherwise they get no aid. It's not difficult chief.
@@JackoX901 That sounds like they're trying to wean them off dependence then. You're right, it's not difficult at all sir.
Not stolen though are they. If they were claimed in spoils of war that's not the same thing as stolen.
@@user-ds8rj2vc4v We're dealing with children here mate... And the rules are different for their empires and countries
Might still makes right to many in this world. It's sad that the British government can't let go of this outdated idea and just give back all that it looted over the centuries. I remember being in the British museum years agoand being horrified that what I saw there. Room after room of stolen items. It was depressing - not the museum experience I think the museum people intend for there visitors.
WTF did you expect to find in a museum of human history? Did you go there entirely in ignorance of the contents, and hoping to see some posters with pictures of interesting things around the world? Look in a book for that. Meanwhile for the rationally-minded, we realise that the entire history of humanity is of migration and conquest. Empires have been built and have either fallen or withdrawn, tribes grew to become powerful then took over (and usually enslaved or simply killed off) their rivals; then became nations, and all the while they looked for land, resources, power. All of them gathered the spoils of their conquests, and many of them displayed those things as signs of their own power. Gradually the most advanced ones became educated, curious, benevolent, even philanthropic, and the displays became educational, and for the benefit of the societies that had developed. If you go 'full woke idiocy' and try to empty the museums, you send human understanding of other cultures backwards by centuries because no-one will be able to see objects that describe the development of the world - only pictures that offer no feeling. Especially given the pathetic attention spans of modern youth, who wouldn't even seek out and look at pictures unless they were posted on TikTok with deliberately misleading captions.
stop making excuses for somethign as apalng as briish histry
britain has a detestbl histry@@TheTraveller20081
Everything about British history is sad...
@@TheTraveller20081your arrogance is overbearing......all this explanation just to make something Wrong; Right.....what kind of values are setting for our children....as a so called civilized nation you'd think that giving back those items would be a no brainer....
Finally, why should these items be treated differently from the items of the Jewish Holocaust.....all African looted items belongs to Africa not the Uk
@@TheTraveller20081 so you mean other groups who got back there looted items was an excption to this idiotic rule....so Africans is not developed enough to preserve its own Veritable.....this is very condescending....and I am thinking as you're speaking that education have really done a one two on many of us in the so call Civilised Countries.
on loan?! How criminal and yet quintisentialily British
I read this in another news that it was returned as a loan...
Dont give them back Ghana!!!
We won’t and we coming for more of our stuff too and our gold in there vaults
As it is now, the law doesn't let them send it back permanently. I can respect why Ghana (and others) wouldn't accept a loan. But as a workaround to let the items return home, its a better step that denying even that.
Change the law. Human beings make laws or???
@@politicallyafrican6317 Absolutely! But at least the stuff is going home. I can imagine it would take much longer to get a law change (unfortunately). Hopefully when we do get a law change, we can just swap out "loan" with "yours now".
YOU CAN RESPECT GHANA FOR WHAT ? ARE THEY NOT SURVIVING WITHOUT THE JAGONS ALL THESES YEARS? SO WHY BORROWING WHAT BELONGS TO YOU ?......
agreed. its a step in the right direction but laws which take a while need to change to permanently return in the future. itll take time
@@user-hb5th5gv3q I said that I respect them because Ghana do not see a "loan" as good enough.
They want what is rightly theirs, ownership.
But in this case, the UK museum cannot return it (because UK law doesn't let them). All the museum can do is offer a workaround .. which is the loan.
The UK people need to push our government to change the law, allowing items to be returned to their rightful place.
We all knew who the thieves are, they enriched themselves with African treasures.
Let's loan something we stole in the first place.
Damn what world are we living in
Returning Stolen antiquities on loans ffs
Weren't stolen - it was a spoil of war. Very different.
@@user-ds8rj2vc4v the Ashanti probably stole it in the first place when they were out taking slaves from the neighbouring tribes.
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Oh definitely. If not then the slaves forced to make it would most likely have been from neighbouring tribes etc.
@@toekneekerching9543You think ordinary slaves from other tribes could make those Ashanti designs? Gold was so abundant in Ghana during the colonial era that it was called "Gold coast".
Ghana today is still the biggest producer of gold in Africa.
The loans are done for security reasons idiot 🙄🤡
Imagine you stole your neighbor's car, then tried to loan it back to them...
Or imagine you joined the British Victorian army, was shipped halfway around the world, fought battles risked your life on regular occasions, then after your death a bunch of leftards start condemning and apologising for your actions,,whilst being snug and safe in the land you helped to create for them
Imagine that he paid for it by selling his former neighbours to human traffickers and it was taken from him in a criminal enforcement action against that trade, which is rather closer to the truth here.
The ONLY reason for the war in which these were spoils was the British enforcement of the ban on slavery, which enriched a few West African kingdoms to the tune of what would be many trillions today, and which they were prepared to fight to retain. They should be objects of shame in Africa, and you can even see manacles among the displayed "treasures".
It was Great Britain that spent its wealth and blood to end the slave trade at the only time in history that we had the power to, and have only just finished paying off the debt incurred by the Bank of England in doing so. Even if a few individuals became very wealthy in the years before it was enforced, that ended when the ships used started being confiscated as prizes and the trade itself was classed as piracy and subjected to the same swift enforcement and justice for anyone caught at sea with human cargo.
Imagine you stole your neighbours car. Then 150 years later some random person who now owns that house is claiming you owe them that car.
Property doesn't transfer that way.
@@user-ds8rj2vc4vimmigrants should also use the same logic when they take over your country and ruin your culture. You'll reap what you sow..
@@user-ds8rj2vc4vRandom you say? We are offsprings of the people it was stolen from hello thieves🤦♀️
Its a shame for both states. The UK has taken the Ashanti people as puppets and the Ashanti should demand what's theirs.
What's the meaning of this agreement? Obviously I don't understand this arrangement by the way.
Ms Ayim strikes me as an articulate pragmatic woman. It is good to see some progress being made on this issue.
Given back to Ghana on loan,,,,, I’ve never heard anything so disgusting,,,, it’s like someone stealing your car,,,,but allowing you to have a ride in it at the weekend.
Ghana didn't exist as a nation, so it is a false comparison
@@tk-6967am sorry that kingdom is still around and they need their stolen regalias back, thieves.
How is it a false comparison, it belonged to the Ashanti people and was looted by British soldiers.@tk-6967
@@nanaantwi1858 The Ashanti people didn't rule the entirety of Ghana nor do they represent the Ghanaian people, and they themselves were pillaging and enslaving other peoples in the region and had allied with the Dutch Empire. Britain's assaults against the Ashanti started as an intervention when the Ashanti were attacking the Fante and Ga peoples, and continued as an anti-slavery operation. It wasn't some random tribe that the British just came upon and looted, this was a legitimate war.
For most of human history, and still today in some places, soldiers loot the settlements of the enemy faction. Is that a good thing? Of course not, but there is nothing that makes this case of looting particularly special or significant in a way that makes it comparable to robbery on a judicial level.
thats an insult our African leaders are still lettting us down
'loan' wow. This is ridiculous beyond words.
When the “find
My iPhone” feature got tuned on!
This deal is embarrassing and disgraceful on both countries
yes its not sense
The deal was made with the Ashanti monarch not the Ghanaian government because the government would have insisted it should be returned permanently.
Perhaps you should look into why the British took these items? Costs a lot of money to send an army to Africa. Perhaps you would prefer we hadn't.
@@curiositycloset2359 Yes, I would have preferred they weren’t looted at the first place and I would have preferred the Kingdom is not so low self esteemed that you accept your own property on loan from the very person who LOOTED them from you.
@@curiositycloset2359F Britain
How can you loan it back when it was stolen from there in the 1st place. They should just be handing it back full.stop
Am speechless.....
It is still happening today sadly with our natural resources
It is really sad how they can not see how wrong this is. The items should go back to its country
Returning them and returning them on loan are two different things. So Ghana better make sure to never give them back.
Are these the originals? I would not be surprised if these are counterfeits. Especially that they are made of pure gold. Ghana should test the authenticity of the objects. make sure they are pure gold.
I wish it was just returned like it should have been and I hate for it to have to be loaned.😢 but I'm so glad you have it the items home😊
This is unbelievable
Let me get this straight..... The thief is lending what they stole back to the people they stole it from....
Yeah, Ghana should absolutely keep them and let Britain sue them to get the items back. That would be the most hilarious/hypocritical lawsuit of all time🤣
I wish they will sue we need all our gold in there vaults back to
They still have a lot more objects there so there has to be a compromise before they do anything
As a Jamaican whose ancestors was sold into slavery ,this is like throwing salt in the cut..
This whole process should have been conducted privately. In war to the victor goes the spoils, Many lives were lost on both sides and i think this gesture is generous, a positive step to strengthen the friendship between both kingdoms.
The question is, how do you go to anothers land and try to take over? They went to Africa and other parts of the world to take over, and Africa has never recovered from that. Their intent was not a noble one....the Berlin conference says it all
This should be a return NOT a loan. DO NOT RETURN THEM. 🤷🏾♀️
@3:19 I'm shooketh over his statement. He doesn't see an issue with England having stolen goods. Pure evil 😢
That dude is a total delusional . hes not ashmed that his race took something from ghana .
I remember that scene from the first Black Panther movie. The scene were Killmonger infiltrates the museum and retrieves the vibranium tool. What was that question he asked that woman?
Killmonger: How do you think your ancestors git these, you think the paid a fair price? Or did they take it like they took everything else?"
My uneducated mind cant get around this,pls my educated people help me understand.Stole from me and lending it back? thats beyond me
We can't breathe, and this must stop. This must change.
They ruled India for 4hundred years ...can u imagine what they did to India in those days without internet phones and what u have today...???India being the biggest jewel in the British crown ...
The British see nothing wrong with their global looting spree.
He doesn’t feel shame! It’s part of empire he says. It would be great if the spirits in Africa would ensure that the items can no longer leave the country
🤦🏿♂️ Sometimes I don't understand. Why? You steal my precious items, set laws to protect you from returning it and now loaning it to me? How's this possible? It's either you keep it, or return it and apologise! YOU LOOTED IT!
A thief is a thief.
Are they returning it or loaning it,I don't understand why the word loan back
Bbc, does make sense to you when you stole people's items and you return it on loan? Amazing! Unbelievable! This is senseless
This is the most ridiculous activity by the British government in the last decade.
The fact that these items were never yours should only impress on you to the needful.
Stealing can never part of your rich history.