Plustek Opticfilm 8300Ai/SE Released (35mm Film Scanner) Am I Buying it?
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Never hold your flatbed scanner like a clutch bag....my arm hurts now...
Answer is No...unfortunatly I do not shoot that frequently with 35mm however if you are into 35mm I would highly suggest the 8300SE if it ever gets released in North America since the price would not change compared to the 8200Ai (unless if you shoot with slide films)
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge, experience and thoughts. I think I'm going with the 8200se and Vuscan
Ur welcome hoping good luck on ur great adventure of scanning :)
I am taking film photos in Korea The review of the scanner you have done has been very helpful. I will support your work.
oh sweet thanks for commenting 'D hope it helps alot of people since its probably one of the most great scanners for 35mm along the way i purchased random ones which didnt help much but the Plustek actually gets the job done... cheers
I got the 8300i Ai months ago and (coming from the old 7300) I can feel the difference. Plus the IR feature is a great time saver (and since it comes with silverfast 9, I can use it with my regular operating system).
Congrats mist have been a great upgrade :) hope your having a great time I wish I had the money to get one since it's faster than the 8200 :)
Great review as always! I was considering picking up an older Nikon CoolScan because while my V600 actually does a pretty nice job for my medium format prints, it really struggles with 35mm.
Since I have photos in art exhibits, many of them are 35mm and I need a proper solution for relatively large prints.
Problem is, the Nikon CoolScans go for BIG MONEY (plus you’d have to use Vuescan software to make it work with today’s computers).
But this Plustek looks like a potentially fantastic option.
Thanks!🙏
Thanks for reaching out definitely The Nikon Coolscan is something everyone wants and I wish my photography school give me one 😂 but since they are really expensive I had to try the Plustek and compared to the Epson scanner this does have more resolving power and can pick up more grain finer detail along with lots of dust 🤣....I haven't tried doing larger prints so can't vouch on how big it can resolve on paper but for casual to high enthusiastic ppl it will probably satisfy their soul :)
The Opticfilm scanners are decent, but the direct competitor to these, the PIE XA Plus and XE Super both outperform the Plustek. Why? Resolution. I've tested the Plusteks and the PIE scanners. You'll get ~4300ppi on the XA Plus, ~4100 on the XE Super, and 3500dpi on the 8300. That's real-word resolution as tested with 35mm USAF 1951 test frames. The dynamic range between the 8300 and XEs is about the same, but the XA has an edge there. The XA Super and XA Plus perform about the same for image quality, but the Plus version is faster. Regardless, I do not recommend the XA series. Despite the automated scanning (yes, you can scan entire rolls) it breaks, it dies, it is mechanically cheap. The XE Super however, is solid.
Regardless, the Valoi Easy35 is dramatically cheaper, so I've abandoned the trad scanning mess altogether. I was even able to buy a dedicated camera to use only for scanning with the money from selling my scanner :)
Thanks for your input and knowledge based on the Pie XA/XE Super scanner I have to admit if I'm going to be shelling tons of money on a new 35mm film scanner and seeing more and more ppl scanning on Valoi system I have to sometime try it to see if it can increase my workflow.
Thanks. I'm going with the 8300.
Oh sweet congrats on ur decision great luck on your journey forward in the world 35mm :)
Thanks for this. I bought the 8300i SE today to use with my Epson v600.
Congrats 🎉 I wish I had one would definitely buy the 8300 SE if I had the opportunity and 💰 but yeah great to hear u also have v600
For anyone lurking, I used the scanner and compared it with a previous high rea scan from my Epson V600. The results from the Plustek were much better than those for the Epson.
For anyone lurking, I used the scanner and compared it with a previous high rea scan from my Epson V600. The results from the Plustek were much better than those for the Epson.
@@legionchef i have to be honest for 35mm the plustek beats most scanners and cannot compare with any as of 2023 for that price your paying theres nothing more you can get from other brands....
@@legionchef Can you show me the different between these two scanner? I have an Epson V600 and not happy with the results and wonder how much better the image from Plustek by comparsion? Thanks!
I’m very surprised by the prices you mentionned, in France the 8300 SE is sold 550 €, and the 8300 AI 1300 € !!! 2.2 times more… without any logic reason I think, except earning (stealing ?) more money …
So, even if I would prefer the 8300 AI, I bought the 8300 SE…
550Euro that's insane.....! But I found recently that if your living in Europe or anywhere outside Japan...it might be better to DSLR/mirrorless scan the film negatives since many people are shifting forwards that method. Varioi if I'm right.
Can't believe the AI cost 1300euros that's a complete ripeoff
I would love to hear how the SE8300 scans I heard it scans pretty fast compared to the previous generation
Thanks for the good review.
There is also another reviewer (Kyle McDougall) who compared his plustek to the more expensive Nikon Super Coolscan 9000 and found the two were closer in quality than expected.
Just wanted to say 8100 will detect and remove dust as a software function of the Silverfish 8 software that was bundled with it.
I bought it to scan B/W negatives and didn’t need the dust and scratches function of the more expensive Plustek due to the IR light used does not work with the silver oxide emulsion of B/W film, only color.
I should add a caveat.. I can scale the dust and scratch removal sensitivity up or down, but it seems to get only half so I need to catch the rest in photoshop.
Thanks for mentioning 😃 I should of elaborated on the IR sensor detection....yep I actually saw Kyle McDougal sans video but not many ppl talked about the newest 8300 series of scanners so made a video and thanks for the input :) for someone like me how doesn't like dust In my photos I appreciate plusteks ability to remove it (doesn't work all the time lol)
I'm kinda curious since I don't shoot much with black and white...does the dust particles become apparent? Easier to identify than color?
Back in Photography school in Tokyo my school had 20 coolscan scanners but although they do the job really well well beyond my budget of I purchased it and for alot of ppl the Plustek does perform like I would say 80-90% which will satisfy alot of ppls needs
@@RM.TokyoPhotographer Kyle compared his 8100 to his Super coolscan 5000.
I guess all of the Plustek scanners use the same optics. I'm waiting for the Coolscan V I bought on eBay to arrive so I can do my own comparisons. I hope it's 20 year old tech holds up for a few more years
@@DaveNarn Curious to know about your experience with the Coolscan V and how it compares to plustek
@@sfomann Coolscan can pull a little more detail out of shadow and highlight areas - better sensitivity.
I use both scanners with Silverfast 8. It’s nice the driver for the coolscan V was still available on the Silverfast software website because that’s an old scanner.
I was surprised that both Plustek and Coolscan are close in overall quality.
@@DaveNarn Thanks for the reply. The only thing that is holding me back for the Plustek is that you have to manually feed the film tray. I am just hating the idea of having to sit for each scan and then push the tray. At least Nikon can scan the whole film tray
i've got a 8300AI running the latest silverfast AI software.
unfortunately, any time savings are totally lost because IR mask registration for the ISRD just doesn't match the RBG and ISRD just totally fails. silverfast and plustek have attempted to open up the acceptable range of misregistration, but most of the time, i end up using the expert mode in silverfast AI 9 to shift the IR and RGB to match. so, faster scanner, but more manual intervention for scratch and dust removal. ☹
Oh no sad to hear...I never tried version 9 and have no problems with 8...that might be a total disaster for ppl thinking of purchasing
Clearly the video producer is a fan of Pustek scanners, but it might help to add a few doses of reality. Plustek listed specifications for their scanners which seem to originate from the advertising department, not from engineering. For example, Plustek has claimed scanning resolution of some 7000 or more dpi for their scanners. The tested reality is about 3000 dpi. As far as I know, the highest resolution ever confirmed for a 35mm scanner was for the MInolta 5400 II, at about 5400 dpi. (That is, optical resolution, not digital interpolation.) I doubt that it is possible to produce a scanner using the technology of these devices which exceeds that resolution. So if Plustek specs are basically trumped-up advertising, what's the big deal here? I'm not suggesting that Plustek models are not worth their price, particularly since they have almost no serious market competition, but some perspective would be nice. Also, it may be worth noting that while Plustek models may be the best thing on the market for their type, I have a well used Acer 2790 which makes a real 2750 dpi (tested) with Digital ICE dust removal, and it adds motorized filmstrip and slide advance for hands-off batch processing. Adjusted for dollar inflation, it cost me some 30 years ago about the same as the more expensive Plustek today. The technology and availability of high end film scanners to both the commerical and consumer market has entered a "dark ages" from which we are unlikely to recover.
はじめまして。いつも動画楽しませてもらっています！
フィルムスキャナーについては自分も色々と検討していますが、plustekのWebサイトを見てみるとOpticFilm 120 Proという最上位モデルがもうすぐ出るようですね。
前のOpticFilm 120も評判がよかったみたいで、レンズ構成や、スキャンシステムの向上など色々と良さそうですね。日本では今年の夏ごろかな？という情報も見ました。
もし何かこれに関する動画が見れたら嬉しいと思います。
これからも頑張ってくださいね！
あざーす。ありがとうございます。自分に場合 Plustek 120Pro 自体価格が高いため、たぶん GTX 830あたり壊れるまで使う予定ですが、候補が増えるのはいいですね。
We use the term reversal too in North America. Any positive film is called reversal. Slides are a specific form factor.
I thought North Americans call it slides more often than reversal that's surprising thanks for letting me know :)
How does this compare with the plustek 135i, other than the motorised film advance?
I haven't owned the 135i but looking at the spec sheet 7200dpi it might use the exact same sensor to read info. But I was skeptical over the course of years the motor will have miss alignment so went with 8200ai. And also I think the 8200/8300 is tad thinner in width and takes less space in my opinion sorry couldn't give you the direct answer I was also looking at B/H photos and found it doesn't include silverfast software while the 8200/8300 does.
Hi with this scanner do I just unravel the film roll and chop it in segments and feed it into the scanner or does the film needed to be processed first?
You mean processed the film in a lab then it comes back either pre cut or you have to cut it up into segments
@@RM.TokyoPhotographer ok thx still costly if it requires a lab
Do these scanners only take 35mm or can it also scan other older slide formats like 110/ 120
Unfortunately only 35mm however there is a different type of scanner that does 120 version in Japan that type is discontinued
The only diffrence between the two 8300i is the version of Sliverfast who comes with it. Who use Silverfast when we have Vuescan..
Hey Ryo, have you heard anything about the Reflecta scanners?
I actually never heard of them but I was looking at the image and it looks exactly similar to Pacific Image? Don't know which one specifically but the one Jason from Grainydays use it? Unfortunately Reflecta scanners are unavailable in Japan
@@RM.TokyoPhotographeroh yeah I think I remember seeing that. Those two are the same thing with different brand names
@@RM.TokyoPhotographer Grainydays uses an A7R3 these days - he stopped using traditional scanning a couple years ago. Even for large format, he uses camera scanning and stitches.
How does this compare to the Reflecta RPS 10M ?
I actually don't own a reflecta rm 10 but didn't want to get it since I live in Tokyo and there like no distributors here however I seen since it automatically intakes the film using the roller...it has a higher chance if jamming in or misalignment issue might happen so instead I got the optics I'm guessing the resolution wise it's probably similar but I went with optics since they are based in Taiwan closer to Japan and there are distributors here
I hate to think that some hassle reduction would ever override quality or end result.
Scan speed.... How important is it?
If you have a special slide and once scanning you spend an hour or two afterwards cleaning, sharpening asnd correcting the image......
Why worry about 3 seconds, 30 or 60 seconds for a better scan?
Or, even wait 5 minutes. The scan result is your starting platform.
I can see speed being a necessity when popping out photos at a drive through photo booth with people anxiously waiting in line, honking their horns.
Need for SPEED has it's reasons.
Need for quality is self defining.
This really depends since the person who is initially purchasing this type of scanner shot many rolls of film and they want to get it scanned as fast as possible Asap. And ppl who are more want to get more out of scanner should just use a professional drum scanner which is the tedious task but worth it. For me specifically I have to make a video along side that so speed is in a way a priority while the majority of ppl don't edit video along with shooting editing film slides so I guess there is a purpose for such scanners to exist .
I'm not an Avid 35mm shooter so can't say much but I would actually tend to scan it ASAP then filter out the bad and the good on screen then color correct so of like culling and that speed makes my process much efficient
@@RM.TokyoPhotographer Thanks for explaining.
I have about 500boxes of Kodachrome. That's all I ever shot. Each week when I got back a couple boxes from Kodak, I'd quickly look through them with a loupe. I might get one to give decent images, sometimes none.
Anyone scoring 36 out of 36 good images and shoots a couple boxes s day might need faster scans.
I visually looked at every image and only scanned the ones that looked promising.
We all have different reasons for our needs.
I'm trying to find a scanner that produces better scans than my old Canoscan 9950f. That's why I checked in to your video. .....I'm just trying to get the best scans. It's getting harder to find reviews...... Google sponsored reviews are the worst source.
Thanks for replying. 👍
How do you scan medium format?
Hello I scan using a GTX 830 by Epson in N. America it's called V550/600?
@@RM.TokyoPhotographer ok. Great. Thanks.
how can u scan 120film?
This is only for 35mm films
@@RM.TokyoPhotographer ye i mean the question was what would be best way to scan a 120mm film
I typically use a flatbed like Epson V600/850 but speed wise it might be more efficient to use a dslr/mirrorlesscan@@LinoCrafts
Have you tried XAs Pacific scanners?
I actually evaded them since I hear ppl getting it jammed unfortunately I don't have experience with them...
You pay $600 rent per month?
If I convert jpy to USD as of now it would be 345usd roughly 😂...
i think this video is dated - current offerings of the 8300i on Amazon have all capabilities included
The SE is only available in Asia FYI
I cant see why dust would be a real problem unless you live in a dust storm
Well if you do 36 exposures of shots that takes considerable time...and some film scanners don't have remove dust function...can get really hectic if you shoot three rolls from a trip :) best to save time as much as possible
none of this scanner support 120 film ? :(
The Plustek series are only 35mm they use to sell 120 only scanners similar size but they stopped production