Whitey Herzog: The Chatter's Box | February 2023 | St. Louis Cardinals

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  • Cardinals Hall of Fame Manager Whitey Herzog sits down with former pitcher Kyle McClellan for this edition of the “Chatter’s Box.” Whitey discusses why he traded Rollie Fingers, the timeline of the Ozzie Smith trade, convincing Ozzie to waive his no-trade clause to come to St. Louis, winning the 1982 World Series, having to trade Keith Hernandez, losing the 1985 and 1987 World Series, inventing bullpen by committee, Vince Coleman stealing bases at will, length of MLB games, his relationship with Jack Buck, and skipping school to go to Sportsman’s Park to watch the Browns and Cardinals when he was growing up.

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  • @KJBO1611
    @KJBO1611 5 місяців тому +9

    Rest in Peace Whitey. As a 49 yr old man you helped make the 1980s something special for me and I'll always be thankful for those memories.

  • @H4045
    @H4045 Рік тому +6

    Another "local" Cardinal legend! I remain absolutely convinced baseball fans yearn for the excitement of small ball, as epitomized by Whitey's brand of Cardinals baseball. I was an SIUE freshman when Whitey piloted the club to the 1982 World Series Championship and it still seems like yesterday. Drive on, Whitey, it's keeping you young!

  • @debbieg.1390
    @debbieg.1390 Рік тому +10

    Awesome podcast! Whitey is a STL treasure! ❤

    • @jamesrfb
      @jamesrfb 5 місяців тому +1

      A National treasure.

  • @Ardyh79
    @Ardyh79 Рік тому +7

    Always love to listen to Whitey! He tells the best baseball stories!

  • @ryanmurphy2588
    @ryanmurphy2588 Рік тому +3

    Whitey made me interested in the Cardinals at 7 years old in 1988. I haven't stopped today at 41 years old. I Love Whitey Herzog's stories and interestingly awesome insights, to me he will always be the manager of the Cardinals, along with LaRussa, but like myself, Whitey is a local guy. My High School's Baseball Field is named Whitey Herzog Stadium in Jackson, MO. Whitey Herzog is Both a Legend, and a Hall of Famer. Love me Some Whitey Herzog!!!!!

  • @janiekcarney5482
    @janiekcarney5482 Рік тому +4

    I enjoyed this interview. My Husband loved the Cardinals. He died in 2015. He had followed the Cardinals since he was two watching baseball at the barber. We went to St. Louis for our honeymoon.

  • @ZChoate
    @ZChoate Рік тому +4

    It's crazy how much charisma and charm still bursts from Whitey at 91

  • @towtowstrailtalk6853
    @towtowstrailtalk6853 Рік тому +6

    I would love to set down for 1 hour and talk baseball with the best baseball mind ever. I love Whitey ball

  • @garylobo3
    @garylobo3 5 місяців тому +2

    Congrats Kyle M., you got the definitive, and probably last, interview with this treasure of a man, and manager. Boy he could talk, but unlike most people who drone on and on, almost everything Whitey said was fascinating. He was a little hard to follow at times as he kinda spoke in shorthand, but as enjoyable to listen to as any public figure I've ever heard. And his mind still sharp as a tack at the age of 91. We should all be so lucky. Rest in Power, my favorite Cardinal manager of all time. Sigh...

  • @keithwhitney7491
    @keithwhitney7491 Рік тому +3

    Whitey, I am almost 78, if you will keep talking, I will try to get in baseball shape to come down to the Florida dream experience. Of course, I am probably too cheap to do it. But, for you…Oz..and the gang, what a bargain! I saved this UA-cam, which I almost never do. THIS IS MY FAVORITE Podcast of all time! In Japan and Korea, they designate certain artists and other gifted people as “National Treasures,” YOU ARE MORE THAN JUST STL TREASURE; you are a BASEBALL TREASURE!

  • @randysimpson8745
    @randysimpson8745 Рік тому +4

    Great listening skills Kyle

  • @nickmasur2408
    @nickmasur2408 Рік тому +3

    I could listen to Whitey all day! Thanks Kyle

  • @scottsaccenti
    @scottsaccenti 5 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful, wonderful baseball memories from the 80s. So grateful for this man. Legend.

  • @stan2189
    @stan2189 Рік тому +5

    What a great podcast!!! I love whitey and can't wait for Cardinal Baseball!!!! Let's go!!!!

  • @rlh-okharvark
    @rlh-okharvark 5 місяців тому +1

    Sure loved Whitey. Whitey ball was the greatest. Kyle - this could be one of the best interviews ever. Thanks for just letting him talk.

  • @rdmkeytohwy
    @rdmkeytohwy Рік тому +5

    Gussie Busch was smart enough to let the baseball people make the baseball decisions and I think the record speaks for itself. He just wanted to win. And win they did. Whiteyball was some of the most entertaining baseball I have ever watched. Those teams were special. The team speed the Cardinals had was intimidating and it changed the game completely. Good defense, too and when you had Sutter to nail it down in the ninth they were pretty tough to beat. Lots of great memories. Thanks for this interview although Whitey kind of took over and just talked and went from one story to the next. That’s OK, it was great to hear how those teams were put together and all of the behind-the-scenes drama. Fascinating stuff from one of the best baseball team architects to ever manage a team. Whitey is a treasure!

    • @bowlnow824
      @bowlnow824 Рік тому +1

      I was born in 84 and my dad told me all these stories about Gussie and Whitey. Gussie was a true baseball fan and he loved his team more than any owner ever. Great comment

    • @rdmkeytohwy
      @rdmkeytohwy Рік тому

      @@bowlnow824 and thanks for your comment. Yes, Gussie was a big baseball fan and enjoyed all of those winning teams. He and Whitey were a great pair. Of course the Cardinals have always been a great way to sell Anheuser-Busch beverages as well. I would say it has been a pretty good partnership.

    • @garylobo348
      @garylobo348 Рік тому

      The 80s Cardinals remind me of the Rams Greatest Show on Turf. Devastating team speed, and the White Rat was the mastermind. He configured his team for the home stadium they played in. Why no other manager thought of that during the 70s? No one else had Whitey's keen mind.

  • @keithwhitney7491
    @keithwhitney7491 Рік тому +2

    OK. I had never subscribed to a podcast Chanel. I am a retired academic but I only go the free UA-cam stuff. This podcast (you posted to UA-cam) just changed my mind. As I posted in the prior post on this program: THIS IS THE BEST, MOST HEART-WARMING PODCAST I HAVE EVER SEEN! Loved it!

  • @bowlnow824
    @bowlnow824 Рік тому +4

    I just did my annual watching of heck of a year the other day.. I'm ready to go for baseball season

  • @ronaldlucas5360
    @ronaldlucas5360 Рік тому +3

    Enjoyed 👌

  • @benelder8556
    @benelder8556 Рік тому +2

    A true baseball treasure! I could've listened to Whitey for several more hours! Old school baseball mind! St. Louis was exciting baseball in the 80s! The game needs to go back to "Whiteyball".

  • @russ5896
    @russ5896 Рік тому +2

    Great Interview

  • @randylanter2222
    @randylanter2222 5 місяців тому +1

    There will never be another like him.

  • @johnnyb3245
    @johnnyb3245 5 місяців тому +1

    One of a kind

  • @keithwhitney7491
    @keithwhitney7491 Рік тому +1

    Whitey Herzog is one of my all-time heroes. I miss real, human management, the genius of the human mind. What the geeks of this world fail to realize is the amazing human brain, which allows Whitey Herzog and a few other genius managers to observe “data” that is not quantifiable, to store inputs not recorded by the geeks. He could throw some unexpected change to the program; he took guys, each of whom had weaknesses and strengths, and construct a team that worked. To think that he constructed for our stadium is even more important. Thanks, Whitey. No computer-driven manager will ever accomplish what you did! Of course, real baseball fans love defense, speed, great pitching and more.

  • @stan2189
    @stan2189 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this

  • @jamesanderson6373
    @jamesanderson6373 Рік тому +6

    Hope to see Whitey at opening day.

  • @jamesrfb
    @jamesrfb 5 місяців тому +1

    RIP Mr. Herzog. ❤

  • @randysimpson8745
    @randysimpson8745 Рік тому +15

    Greatest baseball mind ever in STL.

    • @garylobo3
      @garylobo3 5 місяців тому +2

      Should've had 3 WS rings in the 1980s.

    • @paleo704
      @paleo704 5 місяців тому

      That would be Tony Larussa

    • @paleo704
      @paleo704 5 місяців тому

      @@garylobo3lost to the cheatin Twins

    • @randysimpson8745
      @randysimpson8745 5 місяців тому

      @@paleo704 just means you don’t know baseball ain’t even a discussion.

  • @jeffreylc
    @jeffreylc Рік тому +1

    Cards fans help me out. Around 52:00 Whitey discussed his great relationship with Keith Hernandez and how he covered for him. I was under the impression Whitey wanted Keith gone due to his “extracurricular issues” with the white powder. Was it Gussie that wanted to get rid of Hernandez?

  • @cathyhorn963
    @cathyhorn963 4 місяці тому

    The best manager in my Lifetime…
    He built the teams
    And
    managed them.
    Successfully.
    Period.

  • @joshuamayo9732
    @joshuamayo9732 9 місяців тому +1

    36:13 "that g-damn screwball..." the best

    • @terryreynolds200
      @terryreynolds200 9 місяців тому

      Yes, dubious pitches. You don't see screwballs or knucklers anymore.

  • @robertseymour2530
    @robertseymour2530 Рік тому

    Great aprecition

  • @jeffreylc
    @jeffreylc Рік тому

    This discussion is enlightening as I was a die hard Ted Simmons fan in the 70’s as a kid. Was always mad about Simmons being traded. Glad Whitey was able to add some insight. I still think the team would have been better with Ted’s bat and leadership even on a team built around speedy offense and defense.

  • @cards1985
    @cards1985 Рік тому +2

    Best MGR mind ever

  • @uscarme
    @uscarme Рік тому +2

    Whitey is the best.

  • @MrAitraining
    @MrAitraining 5 місяців тому

    Whitey was still bringin it here. Remembered so much. Great stuff

  • @ZChoate
    @ZChoate Рік тому +2

    Kyle your questions are 10/10. Your listening could be a lot better. More conversation less interview.

    • @garylobo3
      @garylobo3 5 місяців тому +1

      Wrong. First of all Kyle, like the rest of us, is totally mesmerized by Whitey. And second, this is Herzog telling his STL story, beginning to end. There may not be another chance.

  • @jrrd4069
    @jrrd4069 Рік тому +3

    Whitey is my dad's era, true legend.

  • @suetrunnell9524
    @suetrunnell9524 Рік тому +2

    Still sharp. :)

  • @H4045
    @H4045 Рік тому +1

    The Cardinals missed an opportunity with the "new" stadium. They should have named the playing field after Jack Buck. Jack Buck Field at Busch Stadium...

    • @garylobo3
      @garylobo3 5 місяців тому

      Nice. Or the Jack Buck Press Box? They did it for Vin in LA. Still not too late.

  • @jlpickering3881
    @jlpickering3881 Рік тому

    Omg this is good.

  • @kevinhieronymus
    @kevinhieronymus 20 днів тому

    Love whitey

  • @jameshudson169
    @jameshudson169 6 місяців тому

    i saw oquindo pitch. like the 18th inning. ken griffey finally hit a double of 'im and the braves won. i believe he pitched 2 or 3 innings.

  • @opiegm29
    @opiegm29 Рік тому

    bEST podcast ever

  • @mattpatches8395
    @mattpatches8395 2 місяці тому

    God bless the White Rat. The best baseball man I ever saw.

  • @jimsmith6603
    @jimsmith6603 Рік тому

    Fingers was NOT his 1972 self in 1982. The Cardinals still would've beat the Brew Crew if Rollie was in there.

  • @badlieutenant6936
    @badlieutenant6936 9 місяців тому

    What was Whitey's best trade for the Cardinals ?

    • @terryreynolds200
      @terryreynolds200 9 місяців тому

      Ozzie

    • @wizard1687
      @wizard1687 7 місяців тому

      No doubt. Willie #2, Clark #3, Andujar #4, Tudor #5. Just off the top of my head

    • @brstreet9950
      @brstreet9950 3 місяці тому

      Lonnie Smith has to be up there as well

  • @Sagiterrian77
    @Sagiterrian77 7 місяців тому

    So Kauffman was obsessed about having to pay a performance bonus. Ironic. He started his own company because the drug company he worked for wouldn’t pay him the bonus he thought he deserved!