Thanks for the video. Will help me with 1 place in my shop I am within 13" of a wood brace that I want to make safer. Still not up to snuff with code, but at least more peace of mind having run single wall pipe the whole way out my pole garage lasting for years & years. Now upgrading to class A chimney pipe & more efficient larger woodstove. Yes, that will be something I can add inexpensively. Thanks & hey, I make mistakes on every project I work on! Thanks for including yours.
Thanks so much for sharing? I was wondering if you couldn't just stick aluminum ceiling hanger strips down around three sides. I don't think it would get hot enough to melt the aluminum.
I don’t really know the answer to that. If you search for the melting point of aluminum it may help you make that decision. I used these steel tabs since that is what I had on hand. Thanks for watching.
In the original application I didn’t do anything as it was a mostly open sugar shack. In the current application in my barn I tried to use some sheet steel on the outside gap but it was poorly executed 🤦♂️. Air is not a significant issue but some water does come in.
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtrees I’m mainly concerned with the light. Bugs and such. I am considering using your method but stopping my 8” flush or just slightly on the outside and then running a 6” trim collar flush on the building to block the light. It’s a lot cheaper than buying a single piece long enough to go through the wall and I’m in a post frame building with no interior walls.
Good thing you studied riveting with Bearded Luke! It came in handy already. Sorry about your fingers. It happens. Let us know how the budget-minded pipe worked at the sugar shack.
This worked out great for the sugar shack. I kept an eye on it all last season and the wood near the pipe never got above warm despite flames coming out of the stack. Thanks for watching!
Scott, the six inch pipe you slipped into the 8 inch pipe...how did you secure the two together? In other words, if the six inch was not fastened to the one inch strips, I would think that six inch pipe would slip down out of the 8 inch pipe?
The six inch pipe was not permanently attached to the eight inch pipe. In this application it was part of the horizontal run in between coming off the stove and outside the shack. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching!
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtrees Thanks for replying...and so quickly. I understand that the two pipes would not have to be connected on a horizontal run, but what about vertical runs? Say I have two or more vertical runs spliced together (48" total pipe length, for example that require two 24" pipes "fitted" together)...I would think I would need to somehow attach the tabs to the inside pipe to prevent it from slipping. Any thoughts?
Ok I think I understand now. This method would need a way to keep the two pipes attached together but I’d think just a few tabs would do it. I do not think you’d have to secure all tabs to both pieces for it to work. Probably some self tapping sheet metal screws would do it. Good luck and let me know what you come up with.
Maybe all you have to do is make a 6 1/2 inch collar that you fasten to the inside of the male ends of the 8-inch pipe sections. Enough to allow the 6-inch through, but will keep it roughly centered inside the 8-inch pipe. Or just put 1-inch screws through the outer pipe. The ends of the screws will fend off the inner pipe and give it some flex.
This is what I found on the Lowe’s website, where I bought the pipe: “It has a maximum temperature rating of 700°F, with a short-term exposure rating up to 800°F.” Hope that helps!
It’s held up very well. The sugar shack got destroyed two years ago and I took this piece to my barn and am using it for the woodstove in there. Thanks for watching!
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtreeswell I would've used ceramic fiber between the two layers and just drilled straight through both pieces and put the carriage bolt/screw through from inside the inner pipe a nut and washer and another nut and washer spaced at the right outer diameter wrapped it in ceramic fiber punched the bolts/screws through the fiber then just wrapped your outside pipe, joined it's seam and capped your protruding bolts/screws with washers and a nut but that's just how (my mind) sees it. You still did a pretty amazing job and saved yourself a lot of money
@@jamesbernard6841 thanks for the additional context. For this I just used what I had on hand. I don’t doubt what you’re describing would work. Thanks for watching!
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtrees yeah thanks for sharing your experience with all of us. Honestly after thinking about it you really don't need to fasten both layers together if you insinuate the pipe with the ceramic fiber you would just need to roll the inner pipe in fiber, wrap the outside around it and then fasten the outer pipe closed, for added strength you could just drive the right length self drilling screws into it but wouldn't be necessary if this is connected on both ends. Great build tho
@@jamesbernard6841 thank you for the kind words. This was for a sugar shack, and once that building was destroyed by a falling beech tree I used this in my barn. I like your idea for a more permanent fix
No you ain't cheap , you just have common sense and can see through the bullshit . I think the exact same way and don't need to buy overpriced double walled pipe . Put a waste oil drip in your wood stove . Maybe you already know about it . Anyways good video.
God forbid one would ever think for yourself no sir .!!!!!!! They wait to be told what to do . So they stay safe . This is why we have lights to tell us when to go and stop and lines like in kindergarden naturally to tell us where to go . I'm going through a window with a cheap single wall pipe that will go through a piece of mason board which will leave about 1' away from wood so unbelievably dry that we've discussed hiring 32 people for the summer to hold umbrellas for approximately 8 hours every day 7 days a week to keep the Sun from literally burning the garage with just taking place down I feel that would be safe.
The last part of my story was BS but I am going through the window with the single wall pipe and Mason board . I'll naturally watch it pay attention and feel the heat around it so until I know and understand all is good but I'm not going to spending $100 or $200 uninsulated stainless steel pipe there's no way that's crap to me I'll figure something else out
Awesome ideea. Looks like a minimal heat transfer through those strips 👍
Thank you for the kind words and for watching! Yes, I’ve used this for several years, first in the sugar shack then in my barn, and it works well.
The train in the background sounded like meditation music coming on real soft..
Interesting. It’s one of those things I don’t hear much. I think my brain tunes it out. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. Will help me with 1 place in my shop I am within 13" of a wood brace that I want to make safer. Still not up to snuff with code, but at least more peace of mind having run single wall pipe the whole way out my pole garage lasting for years & years. Now upgrading to class A chimney pipe & more efficient larger woodstove. Yes, that will be something I can add inexpensively. Thanks & hey, I make mistakes on every project I work on! Thanks for including yours.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words! Best wishes to you in your shop.
Thank you, sir for saving me some money. Hey take care and God bless!!
Im happy to hear that! Thanks for watching and the same to you.
Great job! Jill from Baudette Minnesota
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words.
Thanks so much for sharing? I was wondering if you couldn't just stick aluminum ceiling hanger strips down around three sides. I don't think it would get hot enough to melt the aluminum.
I don’t really know the answer to that. If you search for the melting point of aluminum it may help you make that decision. I used these steel tabs since that is what I had on hand. Thanks for watching.
I used 20+ inch 2 inch wide piece of sheet metal folded like an accordion. Saved on time and fasteners
Interesting idea! Did you fasten them on one end? Thanks for watching.
How did you enclose the pipe. Like how did you block the gap on both ends to block out light and cold air coming into the building?…
In the original application I didn’t do anything as it was a mostly open sugar shack. In the current application in my barn I tried to use some sheet steel on the outside gap but it was poorly executed 🤦♂️. Air is not a significant issue but some water does come in.
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtrees I’m mainly concerned with the light. Bugs and such. I am considering using your method but stopping my 8” flush or just slightly on the outside and then running a 6” trim collar flush on the building to block the light.
It’s a lot cheaper than buying a single piece long enough to go through the wall and I’m in a post frame building with no interior walls.
Good thing you studied riveting with Bearded Luke! It came in handy already. Sorry about your fingers. It happens. Let us know how the budget-minded pipe worked at the sugar shack.
This worked out great for the sugar shack. I kept an eye on it all last season and the wood near the pipe never got above warm despite flames coming out of the stack. Thanks for watching!
I like your tenacity and get er done sprite. Maybe make the pipe out of stainless steel ??? Good day fella too.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words! Stainless would be best for a more permanent application for sure.
Scott, the six inch pipe you slipped into the 8 inch pipe...how did you secure the two together? In other words, if the six inch was not fastened to the one inch strips, I would think that six inch pipe would slip down out of the 8 inch pipe?
The six inch pipe was not permanently attached to the eight inch pipe. In this application it was part of the horizontal run in between coming off the stove and outside the shack. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching!
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtrees Thanks for replying...and so quickly. I understand that the two pipes would not have to be connected on a horizontal run, but what about vertical runs? Say I have two or more vertical runs spliced together (48" total pipe length, for example that require two 24" pipes "fitted" together)...I would think I would need to somehow attach the tabs to the inside pipe to prevent it from slipping. Any thoughts?
Ok I think I understand now. This method would need a way to keep the two pipes attached together but I’d think just a few tabs would do it. I do not think you’d have to secure all tabs to both pieces for it to work. Probably some self tapping sheet metal screws would do it. Good luck and let me know what you come up with.
Maybe all you have to do is make a 6 1/2 inch collar that you fasten to the inside of the male ends of the 8-inch pipe sections. Enough to allow the 6-inch through, but will keep it roughly centered inside the 8-inch pipe. Or just put 1-inch screws through the outer pipe. The ends of the screws will fend off the inner pipe and give it some flex.
What about the guts out of a kerosene heater. Therebis triplw wall sheet metal in them. I got it out of one to use for a flue jack.
I can’t say, because I don’t have any experience with that part. But the biggest thing is to keep the surrounding surfaces cool.
What temp is the single wall pipe rated for?
This is what I found on the Lowe’s website, where I bought the pipe: “It has a maximum temperature rating of 700°F, with a short-term exposure rating up to 800°F.” Hope that helps!
Good idea/concept, but you should check out …The Honey Do Carpenter. Better execution, better plan, and the air-Crete is a much better insulator
How did it hold up after a year?
It’s held up very well. The sugar shack got destroyed two years ago and I took this piece to my barn and am using it for the woodstove in there. Thanks for watching!
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtrees did the sugar shack burn down? what happened?
@@marthabourne4421 a large beech tree uprooted in March 2020 and smashed the sugar shack. This stovepipe is still in use in my barn.
Seems like that would've been WAAAAY easier with carriage bolts 🤷🏻♂️ and faster also would've helped to insulate that pipe with ceramic fiber
I’m not sure I follow how you mean to use the carriage bolts?
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtreeswell I would've used ceramic fiber between the two layers and just drilled straight through both pieces and put the carriage bolt/screw through from inside the inner pipe a nut and washer and another nut and washer spaced at the right outer diameter wrapped it in ceramic fiber punched the bolts/screws through the fiber then just wrapped your outside pipe, joined it's seam and capped your protruding bolts/screws with washers and a nut but that's just how (my mind) sees it. You still did a pretty amazing job and saved yourself a lot of money
@@jamesbernard6841 thanks for the additional context. For this I just used what I had on hand. I don’t doubt what you’re describing would work. Thanks for watching!
@@scottthornandhisbeesandtrees yeah thanks for sharing your experience with all of us. Honestly after thinking about it you really don't need to fasten both layers together if you insinuate the pipe with the ceramic fiber you would just need to roll the inner pipe in fiber, wrap the outside around it and then fasten the outer pipe closed, for added strength you could just drive the right length self drilling screws into it but wouldn't be necessary if this is connected on both ends. Great build tho
@@jamesbernard6841 thank you for the kind words. This was for a sugar shack, and once that building was destroyed by a falling beech tree I used this in my barn. I like your idea for a more permanent fix
No you ain't cheap , you just have common sense and can see through the bullshit . I think the exact same way and don't need to buy overpriced double walled pipe . Put a waste oil drip in your wood stove . Maybe you already know about it . Anyways good video.
Thank you for the kind words and for the advice. I’ll look into your idea!
It wouldn't be youtube without a few stove pipe Nazi's.
God forbid one would ever think for yourself no sir .!!!!!!! They wait to be told what to do . So they stay safe . This is why we have lights to tell us when to go and stop and lines like in kindergarden naturally to tell us where to go . I'm going through a window with a cheap single wall pipe that will go through a piece of mason board which will leave about 1' away from wood so unbelievably dry that we've discussed hiring 32 people for the summer to hold umbrellas for approximately 8 hours every day 7 days a week to keep the Sun from literally burning the garage with just taking place down I feel that would be safe.
The last part of my story was BS but I am going through the window with the single wall pipe and Mason board . I'll naturally watch it pay attention and feel the heat around it so until I know and understand all is good but I'm not going to spending $100 or $200 uninsulated stainless steel pipe there's no way that's crap to me I'll figure something else out