Ramana Maharshi's Final Teaching on Suffering
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- When Ramana Maharshi was alive, one of the persistent inquiries at his satsang's was about suffering and the nature of suffering itself. In this episode of The Sacred Word, I will explain Ramana Maharshi's final truth about the nature of suffering.
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I suffer worse than unit 731, i am profoundly gifted overexcitabilities, no one under 160IQ can even understand me... I experienced suffering of whole world like it would happen to me. I have billions of souls like Fernando Pessoa but i am no one at the same time - it is livid hell. I would be grateful even for unit 731 vs this ...................
Found your channel some months ago, after some Ayahuasca ceremonies... Hinduism make way more sense now. Your videos help me a lot. Cheers from Brazil. Thanks man.
I love this channel. Another good one for teachings spoken from a very pleasant voice, is Wisdom of the Masters . Check it out
Awesome...U explain the things with such a clarity leaving no doubt whatsoever. Excellent work by you.
Thank you for your time.
This one came into my feed at the right time. Love when that happens.
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My life is constant of entangling and disentangling with the Jiva, sometimes I go months that I feel I am the Jiva, and can't for the life of me go a step back to the atman, I just know for experience that time will pass and I know that I will once again step back. Even now that I am more connected to the atman I feel there is something missing yet. But still what's missing is in the Jiva, somewhat I fully know that I am observing the Jiva.
Why are you telling us that?
@@JustMe-999a For nothing in particular, just felt to share what I feel.
I too have similar experiences. Once I became aware of the Jiva and experienced the Atman, all I wanted was keep experiencing the Atman and end the suffering feeling I have as the Jiva. I have noticed that there is a deep wanting and also a deep resistance in me that keeps me in this bondage. I notice it (the resistance and the disconnect) when I go into distraction (scrolling video after video, watching a movie, eating chocolate, etc, being in a mindless state and focusing on things outside myself). Like I'm sabotaging myself.
@@sandtx4913 Pretty much my experience. And then I think this must be the path I must take, I just need to trust, until there I suffer a little, mind that is not a terrible suffering, is suffering nonetheless.
In every dream we make the same mistake: we identify with the person (ego) and regard the rest as 'outside world' in which there are 'others', which can be very frightening. Each dream it takes awakening to realize that the personal perspective was wrong. Awakened out of the dream, you can realize you were not just the person in the dream, you were everything, the whole dream, ALL of it. In all dreams consciousness is all there is so THAT must be what you essentially are. The rest is illusion, just a dream. You are consciousness in which everything appears, by which everything is experienced and of which everything is made. Look back on any dream to verify this. And ponder whether leaving the personal perspective in the dream called 'life' might help to awaken.
Dialogue between Ramana Maharshi and Paramhansa Yogananda:
Mr. C. R. Wright, his secretary, asked: How shall I realise God?
M.: God is an unknown entity. Moreover He is external. Whereas, the Self is always with you and it is you. Why do you leave out what is intimate and go in for what is external?
D.: What is this Self again?
M.: The Self is known to everyone but not clearly. You always exist. The Be-ing is the Self. ‘I am’ is the name of God. Of all the definitions of God, none is indeed so well put as the Biblical statement “I AM THAT I AM” in EXODUS (Chap. 3). There are other statements, such as Brahmaivaham, Aham Brahmasmi and Soham. But none is so direct as the name JEHOVAH = I AM. The Absolute Being is what is - It is the Self. It is God. Knowing the Self, God is known. In fact God is none other than the Self.
D.: Why are there good and evil?
M.: They are relative terms. There must be a subject to know the good and evil. That subject is the ego. Trace the source of the ego. It ends in the Self. The source of the ego is God. This definition of God is probably more concrete and better understood by you.
D.: So it is. How to get Bliss?
M.: Bliss is not something to be got. On the other hand you are always Bliss. This desire is born of the sense of incompleteness. To whom is this sense of incompleteness? Enquire. In deep sleep you were blissful: Now you are not so. What has interposed between that Bliss and this non-bliss? It is the ego. Seek its source and find you are Bliss. There is nothing new to get. You have, on the other hand, to get rid of your ignorance which makes you think that you are other than Bliss. For whom is this ignorance? It is to the ego. Trace the source of the ego. Then the ego is lost and Bliss remains over. It is eternal. You are That, here and now . . . That is the master key for solving all doubts. The doubts arise in the mind. The mind is born of the ego. The ego rises from the Self. Search the source of the ego and the Self is revealed. That alone remains. The universe is only expanded Self. It is not different from the Self.
D.: What is the best way of living?
M.: It differs according as one is a Jnani [knower] or ajnani. A Jnani does not find anything different or separate from the Self. All are in the Self. It is wrong to imagine that there is the world, that there is a body in it and that you dwell in the body. If the Truth is known, the universe and what is beyond it will be found to be only in the Self. The outlook differs according to the sight of the person. The sight is from the eye. The eye must be located somewhere. If you are seeing with the gross eyes you find others gross. If with subtle eyes (i.e., the mind) others appear subtle. If the eye becomes the Self, the Self being infinite, the eye is infinite. There is nothing else to see different from the Self.
He thanked Maharshi. He was told that the best way of thanking is to remain always as the Self.
Later the yogi [Yogananda] asked : How is the spiritual uplift of the people to be effected? What are the instructions to be given them?
Maharshi: They differ according to the temperaments of the individuals and the spiritual ripeness of their minds. There cannot be any instruction en masse.
Yogananda: Why does God permit suffering in the world? Should He not with His omnipotence do away with it at one stroke and ordain the universal realisation of God?
Maharshi: Suffering is the way for Realisation of God.
Yogananda: Should He not ordain it differently?
Maharshi: It is the way.
Yogananda: Are yoga, religion, etc., antidotes to suffering?
Maharshi: Who suffers? What is suffering?
(No answer. Finally the Yogi rose up, prayed for Sri Bhagavan’s blessings for his own work and expressed great regret for his hasty return. He looked very sincere and devoted and even emotional.)
Thanks!
It’s hard to see children suffer physically and are starved. Even if it’s not real they’re harmed
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Maya is the mind
There is a concept in our religion - moh maya .Moh means emotional attachment. Maya means all this illusion , materialistic world . When we connect moh with maya we experience suffering . Well to go on this peak where u just feel urself as a sukshm jeev or sharir means aatma. It need a lot of spiritual awakening, kundalini awakening , kriya yog help in this . But for formal people who are maximum in this world living a grahasth life . For them lord Krishna said in srimad bhagawat geeta a important line - nishkam karm . Means whatever u do and whatever u achieve . Just do without intention and surrender to me all ur deeds . Don’t be happy in happiness, don’t be sad in sad moment. Be neutral . This is all maya which try to make u emotional . Don’t get moh with maya . Thanks for good lesson brother . I really like ur content. Om shanti . 🍀🕉️🤍🙏🏻
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There is non self so no atman?
Why the constant face blurring?
Maya is the creative force, weilded by Ishvara (God), to create the appearance of this unreality. Maya is not an illusion. It is a creative force. It is part of Saguna Brahman.
Truth explained so effectively and directly. Thank you so much on this liberating insight and reminder. May more hear this truth 🙏🏽✨
I love how you are able to put the "Ultimate Truth" into words for all souls to digest...even when "The Truth" is beyond any words and form... .... Shanti Shanti Shanti be blessed Jason🙏
They also asked Ramana Maharshi about pain a lot, and he once said pain is part of Atman and is therefore perfect.
This video came at just the right time for me to see. Thank you universe for reminding me and thank you Jason and Ramana Maharshi for being the messengers.
OM Arunachala Shiva.
You explain eastern philosophy is such a simple and engaging way. You and others like yourself help me understand my spiritual journey. For me its been a very painful process. But now I learnt to embrace pain and process it allowing myself to heal. Nothing is permanent. We are all part of the grand illusion of a master chess player.
You are awareness/consciousness itself. Awareness/consciousness has no need to heal. You are not the mind. The mind has problems and might need to heal. You are the awareness of the mind. You are That.
@scottericchalson1033 Thank you. I agree.
Undifferentiated consciousness, without qualities is the way to be. My first exposure to this concept was through the word "primordial"...and it really clicked. Anyway, good to see you Jason. Hope your tour of India was wonderful! 🕉
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Wow thank you so much, it’s so clear🌼
Beautiful Explanation of Deeper Knowledge of Vedanta
Thank You 🙏
Another version might be, who transmigrates? Who combs out what? If not “combed out”, does the Atman transmigrate, does the Atman suffer?
Suffering and happiness are two side of the same coin You can't have one without the other. You enjoy and then you suffer equally. Both are maya Yoga is a state of equilibrium there's neither this nor that there's only Brahman infinite bliss that transcend duality
Shri Krishna Bhagwan says in Gita the same thing that brings you happiness is the same thing will bring you misery.Stop enjoying the unreal the unreal will also punish you.God for Brahman and experience eternal infinite bliss.The world is unreal but for the delude mind the world is real
Beautifully explained...All questions cleared...Om Shanti,Shanti..Shanti💐🙏
You Got it let go of the ego and let it go agaiN!!!! #Ramana
Namaste ji. Great video and philosophy. 🙏
I adore this videos because they are clear, very clear.❤
Jason there is a famous yogi that minimize the importance of Ramana Maharshii by saying that he suffer a long time until the things become clear to him, this yogi put Sadhguru Sri Brahma in a level above Ramana Maharshi, can you post a video explaining why this is said?
Yes - Be Formless 💓
thank you Jason.
I understand
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This is Vedant. Pranaam to Ramana .Thank you. Hari Om Tatsat.
So many philosophies and so few truths... throughout existence there has been so few true realizers...😇😇
And if someone hits your foot with a hammer? What foot? What hammer? Right? 😅
kaliyuga is about to end by 2032 ,just like humans are given 100 years but live 60-70 years ,this decade is deciding decade ,human population will reduce to 0.66 billion by 2032,ww3 will start by 2025-26,kaliyugs Mahabharata war will start in 2026 deadliest war in 5k years in which china and 15 izlamic countries will invade india
"i am" the body mind is a ego ..ego create the world (ego subject world is objects is duality) when you investigate the "i am" part of the ego you feel only yourself as the awarness of awarness ant the ego part that belive you are the body mind subside...stay in this "i am" is it athman the only real thing is ....eventualy you will be this "i am" alone always - it is self realezation, awakening
I made a response and then realized that here I would be trying to explain something with words that cannot be explained by words.
Jayson, the teacher moved on. The final truth continues in many forms. Personally, or as you say, jivawise I love the future now to look back at maya. ❤️
Wow. Just wonderful. this wisdom must have come from out of this world
I am the cause for suffering. Suffering is something predestined based on my actions, as every action has reaction
Jason, Gregory here haha. Much love from SA!
Very good talk, ❤🙏
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I love these maharsi talks but he would probably find rough treatment at the dentist for hours also painful. So I believe it is truly only about mental suffering, the illusion of struggle in life
Ramana maharshi has a big tumour on his leg.but he never took it as a pain he says atma is different from body.this bodily pain wont affect the blissfull atma
There is such an interesting story in the Old Testament in which Moses mistakes his rod for a snake. Or, his rod transforms into a snake and then back again. I think this is the same lesson as in your “snake and rope” analogy. But, how does one separate from the Jiva? How, how? Just understanding intellectually doesn’t seem to be enough. Meditation doesn’t seem to be enough. Help!
It may be the kind of meditation you practice and/or what you're trying to achieve. There could be some controlling (from the ego) expecting something. Have you tried to be in stillness of your mind and just observe what comes forward without judging it or controlling it. Just like you would observe people, animals, children. Observing and discovering what is, like a child starts to discover everything in the world for the first time, with being steered, without being conditioned, without any prejudice. If you have a hard time with it, observe small children and animals (especially cats). They are the best mindfulness teachers. Also a playlist of songs that inspire, relax, trigger you can help you on your journey and writing in a journal (asking questions and guidance). Take notice that it will be a lifetime journey full of discovering. Distractions are everywhere, they come in all shapes and forms. You have to be aware of them. The more time you spend exploring your inner world the easier it gets (but also harder).
I'd like to help: in every dream we make the same mistake: we identify with the person (ego) and regard the rest as 'outside world' in which there are 'others', which can be very frightening.
Each dream it takes awakening to realize that the personal perspective was wrong.
Awakened out of the dream, you can realize you were not just the person in the dream, you were everything, the whole dream, ALL of it.
In all dreams consciousness is all there is so that must be what you essentially are.
The rest is illusion, a dream.
You are consciousness in which everything appears, by which everything is experienced and of which everything is made. Look back on any dream to verify this. Then ponder whether leaving the personal perspective in the dream called 'life' might help to awaken.
On meditation: it is not something you do, it is what you are.
The person is not who you are, it is what you identify with in any dream.
Take out all your memories, which you have built from childhood to till now. Believe it to be fake. First and most important is believe you’re not woman neither human. Erase all the identities you have picked. Now everything is easy
Wow this did this NOT help one who is truly suffering.
Don't try climbing everest or similar before you can climb your local hill without complaining.
If this was an actual GOOD channel, this would not have commented the way you just did. You know nothing about me or my suffering and I would like to keep it that way according to your response. @@IAn0nI
See my reponse to WanderingGrain and a.sobriquet above. Suffering requires identifying with an ego, a person. As soon as you realize you are consciousness, all suffering ends.
@@geertmeertens-sk7lv but realizing I am consciousness could also be an illusion.
@@a6hiji7 No, that is impossible. You cannot say 'I am not' without lying. You ARE whether you like it or not.