It's a trick I discovered on my first bike in the early 80's, that was a swine to find neutral and especially as a novice. I frustratingly struggled for the first few months of riding!
Re:vibration,I have done 500 mile days riding from SE Pennsylvania to Ohio and back and now have 2600 miles on mine total without any noticeable vibration issues. I get 65 miles(US) per gallon so the range is quite good. Ergonomics make standing off-road difficult,but it is good off paved roads. I love the bike.
I think vibration is subject to each individual. I suffer riding parallel twins and have also had issues with 4 cylinder machines, whereby my hands end up in total cramp. Yet riding singles I have no issue whatsoever.
I really liked that review... although the conclusion was very much from the mindset of an off-road rider it seems - which is fair, it is Ryan after all! But really... how many people are actually buying this type of mini adventure bike to ride much more off-road than unsurfaced roads? It’s good feedback... but I can also see it being largely irrelevant to most of the core market - learners and restricted license holders who just want an adventure styled duke that can stand a bit less tarmac really.
@@jonpram1737 I take mine off road often in the Colorado mountains. It does excellent. You just have to keep speed appropriate for the suspension travel and the trail you are on as with all bikes. Also 40 years experience of riding off and on road on all kind of bikes goes a long way enjoying any bike off road and being able to take it into the rough stuff. Just know it's not a dirt bike and not meant to be.
@@jonpram1737 I brought my KTM 390 adventure for some hard enduro. Just not enough clearance. Well if you are Chris birch you won't have any problems, if you can double blip over the logs, but then again I would just ride my wr250F. This bike is good for commuting and some simple flat track or trail riding. Nothing hardcore. That said, I like this bike
@@jonpram1737 Well, i think the off-road review is important, because this is a bike that begs to be compared to a drz400. the DRZ is of course more offroad oriented (dual sport vs adv bikes), the ktm has more gears, injection, etc. So, it's important to know that it is very road oriented instead of 50/50
@@andrewstambaugh8030 that ithe 390 Adv not a 50/50 bike u can just see on a photo. Just doesn’t have the suspension like a wr250 or crf250l. No review needed to see that. Not hating on the bike I personally think some hardcore enduro guys just shout the hardest on new adventure bike reviews.. I live in Holland so I need to ride to different countries for some proper off-road. For my money it would be the 390 all the way
Wish the Japanese still made mid and large capacity singles, my favourite bikes have been Japanese singles and they are the only people who have ever made truly reliable bike's in my experience
From the front and the seat everything looks fine then you look at that headlight assembly from the side and it’s just awful. Don’t think I’ve seen an uglier arrangement in all my life
You know what's cute? Honda's CB350 H'Ness for India market but not for EU or US market :\... Cheeky Honda going for R.E sale while H.D leaves India market entirely. But back to the KTM, I'd much prefer the RC 390, better format for the angry single cylinder as a sports bike. It's great bike for the price though. Wish again motorcycle manufacturers use a hybrid gel'd seat from factory for seat comfort.
I'd love for Honda to make a 500 version of the H'ness for Europe. I think I'd prefer a 500 Honda retro to a 650 Enfield. The Honda would be better built with far better dealership and residuals.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just like the single on the RC390 better. Especially on US roads. The sportier positioning and fairings makes the bike more aero so it goes past 100mphs if you're lighter than 170lb. ALL of KTM line up IMO don't look great. It's probably the weird hornet like headlights that does it for me. And here in the US KTM support and parts are as spotty as Royal Enfield. Unless you live in the West Coast. Looks and support aside the performance for value is pretty good compared to the competition.
Tested it in semi busy city. Loved it. Was heating a bit, but it was hot summer day. Vibrations are there, and really shouldn't. They fked up the mounting of rubbers on pegs. They should be sticked into (like in Triumph Street scrambler i.e.), instead of beeing screwed - that literally removed the whole point of these rubbers. Other then that, great bike. Missed some better sound from the pipe, and a bit of more umph would be good outside of the city. But if any1 tells you that this bike isn't big enough for city, i'm 100% they don't know how to ride a bike :) Gr8 deal if you want the plastic fresh, and no buttprint on the saddle. If that doesn't scare you, plenty of bikes on the used market, that are "better" :)
I absolutely love mine. Barely been off it since buying. Great for commuting and longer distance playing. Pretty handy on Green lanes too (far exceeds its riders capabilities). Excited to take it further soon (lockdown permitting). I didn’t like the exhaust either, now has an aftermarket wings exhaust (road legal) sounds beautiful and looks way better.
Some of your comments are not aware that the way you pronounce Himalayan is the correct way. Ask the indigenous population!!! Good review of a good bike BUT not enough range for adventuring, no centre stand, (a must for rear wheel work), Uncomfortable saddle (we don't stand up all the time!!!). I'll stick with my CB500. Range 250miles plus.
CB500x has more aftermarket parts that make the bike amazing (rally raid especially) to what you want. This is more of a wannabe versys x that fails to deliver.
Off KTM Topic- The numbness in the hands is something I've wondered about myself, after a while on my MT-125 I'm having this issue, but it's my own fault for going out for wee cheeky half hour run & appearing home usually 3 hours later!!! 😂
I will take single cylinders over twins any day, Have a DR 650, a Suzuki s40 650 single, and a Versys 300 X twin, thinking to trade the versys in for the KTM 390 Adventure, than I will have all singles. I had a Royal Enfield 500 single and loved it as well. Had to many twins and 4 to list, from 250 cc to over 1000 cc , and now all I want is singles love the sound and feel of them. By the way the KTM 390 Adventure has no competition, nothing in that size comes as equipped as the KTM 390, adjustable front shocks, and rear shocks , ABS for on road and one for off road, traction control you can turn off to name a few. That puts it in a class of its own the others, have a long way to catch up. Not that they are not good bikes they are just in a different class. KTM should of put the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on this bike, and I would like a larger gas tank. I can over look the gas tank but will be putting Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on if I get one as well as the aluminum bash plate, heated grips, and side and top racks that can take the GIVI Trekker 33/46 liter bags. ( have them on my Versys and love them, also can put the 46 liter on top of my DR650.) Liked your review, but don't know why you are putting down single cylinders.
I own a a Honda fmx 650 air cooled single de- corked, flat/slide carb done many 200+mile trip love it. This bike is looking like a good replacement with equal performance better mpg lower tax..
Blundered into this bike at the dealer a couple weeks back (they also have a killer deal on a 2019 Goldwing that I'm trying real hard to avoid.... :^) ) and dang, I fit it fairly well (lanky fellow with 36" inseam). Started looking into it and was getting really impressed when I found out a 490 Adventure is due in the spring. A bigger machine for eating the Western US roads would be closer to ideal where as the 390 seems ideal for the rides I see you and your mates on. So I'll wait to see how the 490 is. I'd go for the CB500X but the weight gives me pause. When all is said and done; I'd be interested to see if you would be willing to trade in your CRF250 for this 390.
Me too. Desire 490 for California speed and range. Was told at the dealership that US bikes do not have the quick shifter, which was a disappointing surprise upon going in for a look see last week. Btw, does anyone know what fuel it drinks ? Regular or premium octane ?
I've had one of these new, but sold it after 3 months, absolutely terrible quality control. I had stripped threads or things threaded off centre,it burnt oil almost like petrol, no oil leaks though. First service was a joke, dealer never even changed the oil filters. TFT was replaced 3 times for condensation inside after 20 mins, gave up in the end. A common fault on 390 and 790 which KTM refuse to rectify. The quick shifter £215 option never worked properly or stopped altogether. The quick shifter btw is factory fitted to all engines , just disabled in the ECU . the £215 is for the dealer to connect his laptop and add a tick in a box to enable it. In my honest opinion, leave these alone if you don't want endless reliability issues.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply Andy, keep an eye out for condensation in the top corners of the tft, usually after about half an hour or so. They may listen to you as a Moto journalist if these issues raised their heads while you have it on long term review. It may help others who own these bikes. I understand there is a sizable market for a small full spec Adventure bike especially for the riders of advancing years, but no manufacturers want to do it for fear of harming sales higher up the ladder. All that said, ride safe, keep your family safe.
I'd put it in the same class as Noraly's chosen steed the CB500X. Do you think it can handle luggage as well as it must be missing some low down torque along with its 100cc and piston deficit.
@@splodge5714 More reliable? Most probably. Honda have a great track record......lately. Better bike? Let's see how that pans out. The 390 is a peppy little beast with great character. I don't think Honda have squeezed all the could of out of their engine even though they've been making it in one form or another for over a decade.
The bike has a few issues, after 6500kms I have... * condensation in the tft display * condensation in the front light * play in the rear sprocket * vibrations in the front brake * ignition can be a bit fiddly to get the key to turn. ...so I'm thinking the build quality is not all that great. However, it is a lot of fun. You can be a real hooligan on the twisties. And I have taken it for a proper Norwegian adventure ride with a hammock and all camping gear, did lots of gravel roads and some light dirt. The bike performed well as long as the dirt was dry, the tires aren't really up for any mud. Can't wait to go riding again this weekend :-)
The play in the rear sprocket is normal as there are rubber inserts in the hub to reduce shock being transmitted from the sprocket to the cast aluminum wheel hub.
@@gpnmoab1 I replaced the rubber inserts on my cbr600, and there was no play after that, so I wasn’t expecting any play in a new bike. Had the dealer check the bike yesterday and like you’re saying a bit of play is normal.
@@Ocean4Life I noticed the play when I adjusted the chain after the first 400 miles. Personally I believe there should be no play, why would you design it that way? But since it was virtually new I have to assume they intended it to have play.
@@gpnmoab1 yeah, beats me too. But it’s been checked and cleared by the dealer. I noticed play in the rear sprocket in one of the shots in this video too, when he went from N to 1st. Guess it’s by design
Hi @TheMissendenFlyer I’m looking at both KTM 390 adventure and new BMW g310gs 2020 v for long touring, please suggest in terms of performance, ride comfort, reliability, fun factor !! Thanks
Spending your own money would you buy this or your Honda crf 250? In 2008 I brought a Suzuki drz 400sm @£4000 allowing for inflation and equipment this looks like a brilliant package.
If I were buying a new bike for green laning today I'd probably go for the KTM - but that's because I've already owned a CRF!! The CRF I think looks more like a dirt bike and has proven to be 100% bullet proof in the 6 years I've owned it...
Surely more people would be likely to take this off road than 20 grands worth of gs, and get a lot further too.. A carnet for a quarter of the price too. Is it image that stops a lot of people riding these 'smaller ' bikes? It shouldn't. Less is more maybe. Nice one. Happy travels
I've just bought one, its got 100 miles on it so far, brilliant little bike. been isolating since getting home so not had the chance to get out on it any more. I agree about the mirrors and exhaust entirely which are easily swapped. built-in sat nav is useful and I found a free app called "Turn by Turn" that uses whatever nav app you happen to have, I'm using TomTom, rather than the £7.99 KTM My ride one. I'm planning a trip to Normandy on mine in the spring conditions permitting.
Ah Wendover..... takes me back to my days at RAF Halton....I used to glide from the airfield over the Chilterns... lovely part of the world....I have GS800, KTM 950SM and a Piaggio Medley 150. Thinking to get the 390 for a bit of light fun...
@@TheMissendenFlyer When I look back I should also have taken advantage of doing my PPL. There were 2 Cessna 172 on the airfield and it only cost 25 quid an hour to learn to fly.....
At 29" inseam KTMs are off the menu for me. I wonder why they are so tall? I the front does look a bit like a magnified fly's head! But it looks good value.
Love mine but prefer it in white as I'm not too keen on too much KTM orange. I had to fit an Akrapovic as my lawn mower had a better soundtrack and it looks much better too. For me, it's a really good value, fun to ride second bike to try a few green lanes on etc. although I'd say it's perfectly good enough as an only bike. It's surprisingly punchy for a smaller capacity single cylinder bike. I have the quickshifter which is indeed an option but the jury is out on reliability. Mine has been at the dealers for a week with ECU failure but I'm sure they'll get it sorted.....😯
Oh dear sorry to hear that Steve - which dealer do you use?? The guys at The KTM Centre in Hemel are brilliant....and I'd love to hear your lawn mower!
I am the owner of a KTM 390 Adventure which I bought in January 2021 as my very first motorcycle. About four weeks ago, while riding on city streets, I noticed something unusual with the damping motion of the rear suspension and stopped immediately. The rear suspension was leaking fluid badly. I was able to ride back home and took the bike to the KTM dealer for a check. The KTM dealer received my bike on December 7, 2021. A month has passed, and they have no idea at all whether the faulty rear suspension is covered by the warranty and that it must be checked with the KTM factory sometime during mid-January. The bike is not in working condition and it is in their workshop since its breakdown. This is a very disappointing and frustrating situation as I bought this bike mainly because of its alleged quality suspensions and its two-year warranty. Needless to say, KTM has not lived up to my expectations as a newbie in motorcycling.
Great first ride review of what could be a practical commuter, solo adventure bike and general fun tool. Looking forward to the forthcoming TMF 'dirty weekender' report. Maybe just repeat the day out that you recently aired (Range Rover to Salisbury Plain then CRF250 byway ride) as that would test both road and off road capabilities and the money you save on fuel by not using the Range Rover will pay for the comfort seat......? Looking forward to your next video on this bike, keep up the good work.
Was going to get the 390 Duke a couple of years ago to commute on. Did lots of research and found too many horror stories on reliability so went for a Ninja 400 and 10,000miles later in all weathers, the Kawasaki hasn’t missed a beat.
I got the duke, 2 years, 20,000km and just normal services, tyres, chain and sprockets to date. And it’s my every day ride to and from work, rain hail and shine. We can lane split and lane filter, and the high seat position makes that a breeze
Great review TMF the content just keeps getting better on this channel buy far the best bike reviews out there! The bike looks a fantastic all rounder maybe a good second bike for my 1290 Superduke GT!! Haha
For Australian conditions where we do a lot more off road I would probably go for the Himalayan. KTM would be the better road bike. Put an Akrapovik can on the Enfield, you can play a really nice tune through the hills.
Got this delivered yesterday ..what a hoot did a 150 miles up and around Kylesku and Ullapool very impressed , I think my 2019 tiger 800 may be staying in the garage.. great review.:)
The KTM costs 25% more than the Himalayan so I am not sure it is a fair comparison. The KTM is probably more usable than the RE on fast roads, and by all reports, they are both likely to be as unreliable.
Hi. Sorry to be hi-jacking the comments on this vid but if there's a way to message you via youtube, Mr Flyer, I can't bloody find it 😁 Regarding the channel Million Dollar Bogan. Dunno if you're aware of him? Aussie lad who's most definitely erm...an acquired taste. That notwithstanding I'd have thought his current problems with Hardly Ableson & corporate censorship would be of interest to you - take a look. Similar but very different to what Mr T.P One went through.
You can always e-mail me via my website Duncan, or contact me via Facebook, Twitter or Instagram or indeed leave a comment here....lots of ways to contact me. .....What are the issues he's having?
So what specification makes this an "adventure" bike? I know an adventure can be what you make it and all that. For some a Sunday ride out to the coast is an adventure! . But seriously though, when you really think about an adventure bike you do imagine something that you could take anywhere and do anything on. It's a nice little bike but tagging it the 390 "adventure" is stretching it a bit.
Looks like a great bike for the smaller person (me). I'm after a beginner small, big bike with green lane potential. It ticks alot of boxes for me but I hate the KTM front end treatment and I'm not one for orange either!
Not for me. Think it's an age thing. Pig ugly that "insect" look yuck. Not a bike you would look back at and admire. That end can. Looks like it came off an old Ford Cortina! Colour scheme. Well the future's not bright etc. But, I bet it goes great and handles well. Much prefer the husqvarna who use this motor in the 401s. BTW...the dead pan humour just keeps coming "bum trauma!" Pins and needles in fingers could also be an age thing..sorry. interesting review 👍
Totally disappointed with KTM. They had years to get this bike right, and have utterly failed to give it proper "adventure" credentials to the point that the RE Himalayan is a more accomplished bike off the tarmac. There is a market for small displacement ADV bikes for those that are getting on in years, and KTM and others have missed the mark time and again. If RE can squeeze another 10hp out of the Himalayan to make motorway miles just that bit easier, its totally wiped the competition. Why did it take all those years just to change tyres and handlebars from a Duke? Compare the ground clearance. Having said that, nice road bike.
There's a manufactures agreement to NEVER build a smaller capacity adventure bike that ticks all the boxes, in my opinion. Why ?....it would kill the market stone dead for all the overpriced, overweight, gizmo laden adventure bikes currently on sale. One example of many, was the Honda Varadero. With a more focused design and a mid-capacity engine it could've been a real winner. But no - instead Honda gave buyers the choice of a popgun 125, or a lard arse one thousand, and nothing else in between : )
Know what you’re saying but maybe you’re just not the target market, KTM seem to be aiming at younger riders and/or older riders just dipping their toes into ADV...plus aiming at global markets, mainly India? Clearly road biased but I’ve seen a number of reviews showing it has plenty of capability off road in the right hands if not too extreme. Being unkind, I guess it is a better than average SUV at home in most situations, or a fantastic compromise capable of doing most things well and having a lot of fun on. I am very tempted as a older but new rider, sounds ideal.
@@Dreddingbath The KTM's nice enough, but it's really just a road bike dressed up to look the part. I think the Himalayan's the best all terrain bike out of the box for anyone who doesn't want to spend a fortune, plus it's got decent long distance comfort & luggage carrying capacity. Of course they deliberately gave it an under powered motor to comply with my conspiracy theory.
That bum trauma sounds a worry! :D hahaha Would have been nice if it had Fat bars, may help reduce the vibes a bit. MVDBR Enduro have one of these that they properly take off road and it does really well! I think had I not gotten a Beta Alp 4.0 as my first recent dirtybike, this would have done well as a modern alternative. I am very much looking forward to the rumoured 490 Adventure... a twin so less stressed than this 390... and hopefully a stronger clutch. This looks mint, and from the vids I have seen is way capable as a dualsport A bike! :-)
Owened this bike, LOVED IT! traded it for a 350 dual sport, because I thought I"d be doing more hard core enduro stuff, and ended up buying a dedicated Enduro dirt bike (KTM 250 XC-W TPI) instead, and I now miss having the 390. You get the right mods in there (ergo seat, spoked wheels, bar risers, and dirt bike style pegs... It becomes a capable off-roader, while maintaining the in tow and on road capabilities well.
I am 6ft 3 and 15 stone and when my mate persuaded me to let him have my old 1200GS, I bought one of these. I've had it a year now, and it's a real keeper.
I am 6ft 3 and 15.5 stone and find mine comfortable and capable. The UA-camr "The Lofty Biker" is 6ft 5 and 17stone and his review agrees. I find the VStrom performs the same, but is much heavier.
Has anyone had a problem with starting when cold and sometimes hot. It takes 4 or more times to hit starter. Starts for half second and then stalls. Dealer has had it 2 weeks and along with KTM is unable to fix. Bike only has 300 miles on it and has done since I brought it home, really frustrated!
Just got myself one last week here in India. We get it at a take home price of 3500 quid and 15 quid for a service with an oil and filter change and u can thrash it around without a worry.
First impressions (for me) linger . . . . Light, chuckable, easy to please, reasonble kit for a reasonable price. And you already rate it ahead of the Himalayan (surely no surprise) and GS310 (but this IS a surprise), goodness me. A bit short of element protection. Photoshop out the KTM colour and I couldn't help concluding that it actually looked like a chinese cheapo. Far from neat. The stuck-on preying mantiss bits do nothing for me. I get the immediate impression when jumping on for the first time. Not so keen on the numb bum and tingling hands! So look forward to its comparison with the GS310.
RyanF9 commented on the footpegs being angled forward on their review. Said the bike keeps wanting to pitch him over the handlebars when riding stood up. Would like your thoughts on that. I'm really liking this bike to be honest. Thanks for another great video. Can't wait for you to take it offroad. 😄
i started with this one as my very first bike (i upgraded to a moto guzzi v85 by now) and it was a perfect choice decent but not too much power and super light as you mentioned, but what really stands out imo is the security the modern electronics provide for this price with the lean sensitive abs you can grab your brakes in a curve with no problem if you really need to
Great video again.. I've been trying to find a small adventure bike I like the BMW G310GS but this KTM is quite nice too.. I need a second bike for commuting ect and being able to do some light green lane riding would be great. I've been trying to find a 400 or 450cc twin, but doesn't seem to be anything on the market.. So it might be the baby BM but Ii will have to be a 2021 model because for some silly reason on the 2022 models you can't switch the abs off.. which to me is a bit stupid on a bike made for on and off road.. The suspension is a bit of a let down too on the BM, I will have to spend another £1000 to upgrade and pay someone to do the work as I'm to old and suffer with arthritis, so can't do the work myself these days, and for a ex mechanic it's hard letting someone else work on your vehicle and have to pay them to do so.. Anyway I wish there was more choice for small to mid size adventure bikes.. I think the manufacturers are missing out.. Thanks again for another great video.. always love your content.. Ride Safe.. 🤟😎
Nice review, TMF. The bike's reluctance to get into neutral may be a legacy of KTMs dirt bike heritage: when off road, you never want to find neutral by accident, as it can lead to disasterous consequences. Every KTM, Husaberg, Husqvarna enduro or dirt bike I've ever ridden has been reluctant to find neutral, supposedly for that reason. As for serious off roading, I think the 390 lacks in the suspension and ground clearance department, although for green laning, it will probably excel. Cheers.
Yes as an intro to light off-roading this is great - any hardcore dirt biker would of course look elsewhere. Interesting what you say about the gearbox! Cheers....
This is the first time I have nothing to say; you already said it all. It could be of course that I’m just lazy but if that was the case...would I write this comment 🤔
Been looking at the 390 duke, BMW G310 and the Honda CB300R, and cannot decide between them, all look good value for the price point. I have had my share of bigger faster bikes, and now just a little everyday bit of fun bike
@@TheMissendenFlyer my heart says the 390, just think it looks like a young lads bike, and even though I dont think I look my age I am an old git now :), but the KTM does have more tech which I like, decions decisons, as soon as get back to UK, I will book test rides and get one sorted
@@slakk5093 the power is not a problem, had lots of big bikes, but now just fancy a smaller bike, the SV is a nice bike, but is too dated, I honestly cannot stand the look of the old style front forks
I dont think real ADV people will look at this as an option, no real ground clearance for starters; but how many GS1200 go off road? Just another toy.......
Compared to a multi cylinder bike singles are "thumpy" and torquey....if you ride one and then ride an inline 4 you'll immediately see what I'm talking about!
Thanks for the review. UK expat trying to decide between this and 2021 G310GS as both would be perfect for where I currently live in the Philippines. KTM is edging it I reckon - cheaper than the BMW here too!
A little bit of bum trauma. I've just been on the KTM UK website and this feature is not listed! As always, the devil is in the detail (and the botty pain).
The reason is Andy is limited to a 24 hour day he has stuff already filmed a whole year ahead into 2021 but it's a case of getting it edited and uploaded. I think he is already uploading 3 times a week if not more.
Silver Arrow - I only had access to the BMW R18 from a dealer for a single test ride, the bikes you see me doing multiple videos on are those that manufacturers themselves lend me for a period of weeks from their press fleets - sadly I don't yet think the R18 is available to me from BMW UK themselves...hopeful I can bring you more videos on it next year though once it is....
So I'm considering this or the Suzuki V-Strom 650...I realize that might not seem like a fair comparison but they're similarly priced and similar power to weight ratio, with the Suzuki being a little more expensive but also a little more powerful (V-Strom 650 = 0.1468hp/lb, 390 ADV = 0.1161hp/lb). I feel like the 650 would handle the paved roads better but the 390 would be easier to handle when the pavement ends...thoughts?
Alway state I'm a old school sports tourer fan, and not so much into adventure bikes, however if I was to go down that route this small light weight that could tackle a bit of light off roading seems the way to go, and well priced too, so look forward to your future Vlogs. Cheers TMF
Range with a 14.5 litre tank - "well over a 100 miles" - Triumph put smaller tanks on some of their 1200cc bikes. I would hope for 60/70 mpg from a small single cylinder, well over 200 miles perhaps.
"Cups your buttocks" with appropriate (or inappropriate) hand signals. I think there was an 'Ooo Matron' moment on the R18 video when you overtook a 'young lady'. I love the TMF "Carry on up the double entendre" moments!
Great video .👍😊 Looking forward to hear what you think about the bike after spending time on it. I hope you take Mrs Flyer out for a spin, it would be great to get both of your opinions about this bike two up.
I can’t wait to get back to Blighty (or just Europe) to test ride some adventure bikes. They are unicorn rare in Vietnam. If you can find one they are double the price of Europe.
A bike I'm genuinely interested in ,I have a gsa for touring and cruising, a street ,triple for a bit more spirit .I'm looking for a bike to do a bit of Europe's TET and local Scottish b road, and UK Green lanes, one on the radar is the T7 and the other is this. If only Yamaha made an mt03 version like the 390...my only fear is KTMs reliability and service fears reputation ,that is obviously out there. I'll be watching for your views on this bike
Thanks Andy...ust rented one in Italy....perfect for lowish speeds but I found the vibes and buffeting too much at motorway speeds....not sure if that's juat a feature of all single cylinder bikes?
I have just sold my 390 Duke. I found its over tuned engine, or "peppy nature" just annoying and to me it was gutless in most situations. I can`t think how this engine could work off road. You only get over 40 bhp from a 373 cc 4 stroke single at a cost It was light and easy to pull out of the garage but the occasions got less and less. I finished up hardly riding it. Each to their own ,I expect.
Small tip for getting it in neutral: give it a little bit of throttle (just above idle) and it'll go in neutral much easier
Gonna try it out now
Pretty much with all bikes, my yzf doesnt like going in N unless blip the throttle
Ahh! Is that why i can't do it with my little honda cbf!
It's a trick I discovered on my first bike in the early 80's, that was a swine to find neutral and especially as a novice. I frustratingly struggled for the first few months of riding!
Re:vibration,I have done 500 mile days riding from SE Pennsylvania to Ohio and back and now have 2600 miles on mine total without any noticeable vibration issues. I get 65 miles(US) per gallon so the range is quite good. Ergonomics make standing off-road difficult,but it is good off paved roads. I love the bike.
I think vibration is subject to each individual. I suffer riding parallel twins and have also had issues with 4 cylinder machines, whereby my hands end up in total cramp. Yet riding singles I have no issue whatsoever.
Worth watching Fort Nine’s recent review of this bike.
I really liked that review... although the conclusion was very much from the mindset of an off-road rider it seems - which is fair, it is Ryan after all! But really... how many people are actually buying this type of mini adventure bike to ride much more off-road than unsurfaced roads? It’s good feedback... but I can also see it being largely irrelevant to most of the core market - learners and restricted license holders who just want an adventure styled duke that can stand a bit less tarmac really.
@@jonpram1737 I take mine off road often in the Colorado mountains. It does excellent. You just have to keep speed appropriate for the suspension travel and the trail you are on as with all bikes. Also 40 years experience of riding off and on road on all kind of bikes goes a long way enjoying any bike off road and being able to take it into the rough stuff. Just know it's not a dirt bike and not meant to be.
@@jonpram1737 I brought my KTM 390 adventure for some hard enduro. Just not enough clearance. Well if you are Chris birch you won't have any problems, if you can double blip over the logs, but then again I would just ride my wr250F. This bike is good for commuting and some simple flat track or trail riding. Nothing hardcore. That said, I like this bike
@@jonpram1737 Well, i think the off-road review is important, because this is a bike that begs to be compared to a drz400.
the DRZ is of course more offroad oriented (dual sport vs adv bikes), the ktm has more gears, injection, etc. So, it's important to know that it is very road oriented instead of 50/50
@@andrewstambaugh8030 that ithe 390 Adv not a 50/50 bike u can just see on a photo. Just doesn’t have the suspension like a wr250 or crf250l. No review needed to see that. Not hating on the bike I personally think some hardcore enduro guys just shout the hardest on new adventure bike reviews.. I live in Holland so I need to ride to different countries for some proper off-road. For my money it would be the 390 all the way
Wish the Japanese still made mid and large capacity singles, my favourite bikes have been Japanese singles and they are the only people who have ever made truly reliable bike's in my experience
Love these little bikes you can throw about, you can’t stop smiling while riding these.
I completely agree - lots to be said for small and light...
From the front and the seat everything looks fine then you look at that headlight assembly from the side and it’s just awful. Don’t think I’ve seen an uglier arrangement in all my life
You know what's cute? Honda's CB350 H'Ness for India market but not for EU or US market :\... Cheeky Honda going for R.E sale while H.D leaves India market entirely. But back to the KTM, I'd much prefer the RC 390, better format for the angry single cylinder as a sports bike. It's great bike for the price though. Wish again motorcycle manufacturers use a hybrid gel'd seat from factory for seat comfort.
I'd love for Honda to make a 500 version of the H'ness for Europe. I think I'd prefer a 500 Honda retro to a 650 Enfield. The Honda would be better built with far better dealership and residuals.
Yes I like the look of that new Honda, such a shame we're not getting it in the UK.....unlike the RC390 which I don't like the looks of.....
I LOVE that 350 Honda! Disappointed in its limited availability
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just like the single on the RC390 better. Especially on US roads. The sportier positioning and fairings makes the bike more aero so it goes past 100mphs if you're lighter than 170lb. ALL of KTM line up IMO don't look great. It's probably the weird hornet like headlights that does it for me. And here in the US KTM support and parts are as spotty as Royal Enfield. Unless you live in the West Coast. Looks and support aside the performance for value is pretty good compared to the competition.
Tested it in semi busy city. Loved it. Was heating a bit, but it was hot summer day. Vibrations are there, and really shouldn't. They fked up the mounting of rubbers on pegs. They should be sticked into (like in Triumph Street scrambler i.e.), instead of beeing screwed - that literally removed the whole point of these rubbers. Other then that, great bike. Missed some better sound from the pipe, and a bit of more umph would be good outside of the city. But if any1 tells you that this bike isn't big enough for city, i'm 100% they don't know how to ride a bike :) Gr8 deal if you want the plastic fresh, and no buttprint on the saddle. If that doesn't scare you, plenty of bikes on the used market, that are "better" :)
I absolutely love mine. Barely been off it since buying. Great for commuting and longer distance playing. Pretty handy on Green lanes too (far exceeds its riders capabilities). Excited to take it further soon (lockdown permitting). I didn’t like the exhaust either, now has an aftermarket wings exhaust (road legal) sounds beautiful and looks way better.
aha! Good stuff....
Some of your comments are not aware that the way you pronounce Himalayan is the correct way. Ask the indigenous population!!! Good review of a good bike BUT not enough range for adventuring, no centre stand, (a must for rear wheel work),
Uncomfortable saddle (we don't stand up all the time!!!). I'll stick with my CB500. Range 250miles plus.
Thank you for noticing my correct pronunciation!
The CB500X will do 500 km per tank and the 390 Adventure will do 430 km per tank. That's calculated using the manufacturer's specs.
CB500x has more aftermarket parts that make the bike amazing (rally raid especially) to what you want.
This is more of a wannabe versys x that fails to deliver.
Off KTM Topic- The numbness in the hands is something I've wondered about myself, after a while on my MT-125 I'm having this issue, but it's my own fault for going out for wee cheeky half hour run & appearing home usually 3 hours later!!! 😂
Looks nice but great value? At £1200 more than the 390 Duke???...
I will never buy another ktm again. Had nothing but problems with my 690 from parts that should be made to last
Same here, my smcr needed a new rocker arm within 500 miles from new, took most the summer for the dealer to get it in the U.K.!
I will take single cylinders over twins any day, Have a DR 650, a Suzuki s40 650 single, and a Versys 300 X twin, thinking to trade the versys in for the KTM 390 Adventure, than I will have all singles. I had a Royal Enfield 500 single and loved it as well. Had to many twins and 4 to list, from 250 cc to over 1000 cc , and now all I want is singles love the sound and feel of them. By the way the KTM 390 Adventure has no competition, nothing in that size comes as equipped as the KTM 390, adjustable front shocks, and rear shocks , ABS for on road and one for off road, traction control you can turn off to name a few. That puts it in a class of its own the others, have a long way to catch up. Not that they are not good bikes they are just in a different class. KTM should of put the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on this bike, and I would like a larger gas tank. I can over look the gas tank but will be putting Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on if I get one as well as the aluminum bash plate, heated grips, and side and top racks that can take the GIVI Trekker 33/46 liter bags. ( have them on my Versys and love them, also can put the 46 liter on top of my DR650.) Liked your review, but don't know why you are putting down single cylinders.
I own a a Honda fmx 650 air cooled single de- corked, flat/slide carb done many 200+mile trip love it. This bike is looking like a good replacement with equal performance better mpg lower tax..
I own the 2018 Duke and out of all the Honda's, Aprilia's, Moto Guzzi's I've owned the Duke by far has been the most joyful to own and ride.
It’s seems a miss that they didn’t offer cruise control. KTM loves their tech but somehow forgot this necessary bit for touring and motorway commutes.
Hehe...."cross rivers and stuff" :))
The drivers of signwritten vans probably get sent out to hunt you down for the free advertising☺
Blundered into this bike at the dealer a couple weeks back (they also have a killer deal on a 2019 Goldwing that I'm trying real hard to avoid.... :^) ) and dang, I fit it fairly well (lanky fellow with 36" inseam). Started looking into it and was getting really impressed when I found out a 490 Adventure is due in the spring. A bigger machine for eating the Western US roads would be closer to ideal where as the 390 seems ideal for the rides I see you and your mates on. So I'll wait to see how the 490 is. I'd go for the CB500X but the weight gives me pause.
When all is said and done; I'd be interested to see if you would be willing to trade in your CRF250 for this 390.
Me too. Desire 490 for California speed and range.
Was told at the dealership that US bikes do not have the quick shifter, which was a disappointing surprise upon going in for a look see last week. Btw, does anyone know what fuel it drinks ? Regular or premium octane ?
Man, I just traded in my 2017 crf 250l for a 2020 versys x300, I love it so far !
KTM pitfalls. ...dealer network. reliability and maintenance costs.
I've had one of these new, but sold it after 3 months, absolutely terrible quality control. I had stripped threads or things threaded off centre,it burnt oil almost like petrol, no oil leaks though. First service was a joke, dealer never even changed the oil filters. TFT was replaced 3 times for condensation inside after 20 mins, gave up in the end. A common fault on 390 and 790 which KTM refuse to rectify. The quick shifter £215 option never worked properly or stopped altogether. The quick shifter btw is factory fitted to all engines , just disabled in the ECU . the £215 is for the dealer to connect his laptop and add a tick in a box to enable it. In my honest opinion, leave these alone if you don't want endless reliability issues.
Oh dear, sorry to hear that Rob!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply Andy, keep an eye out for condensation in the top corners of the tft, usually after about half an hour or so. They may listen to you as a Moto journalist if these issues raised their heads while you have it on long term review. It may help others who own these bikes. I understand there is a sizable market for a small full spec Adventure bike especially for the riders of advancing years, but no manufacturers want to do it for fear of harming sales higher up the ladder. All that said, ride safe, keep your family safe.
I'd put it in the same class as Noraly's chosen steed the CB500X. Do you think it can handle luggage as well as it must be missing some low down torque along with its 100cc and piston deficit.
I was thinking the same but the CB500X would be the better more reliable bike.
@@splodge5714 More reliable? Most probably. Honda have a great track record......lately. Better bike? Let's see how that pans out. The 390 is a peppy little beast with great character. I don't think Honda have squeezed all the could of out of their engine even though they've been making it in one form or another for over a decade.
It's a big single...prob has more torque than the Honda 500
The bike has a few issues, after 6500kms I have...
* condensation in the tft display
* condensation in the front light
* play in the rear sprocket
* vibrations in the front brake
* ignition can be a bit fiddly to get the key to turn.
...so I'm thinking the build quality is not all that great.
However, it is a lot of fun. You can be a real hooligan on the twisties. And I have taken it for a proper Norwegian adventure ride with a hammock and all camping gear, did lots of gravel roads and some light dirt. The bike performed well as long as the dirt was dry, the tires aren't really up for any mud.
Can't wait to go riding again this weekend :-)
Thanks for the real world feedback! Enjoy your ride...
The play in the rear sprocket is normal as there are rubber inserts in the hub to reduce shock being transmitted from the sprocket to the cast aluminum wheel hub.
@@gpnmoab1 I replaced the rubber inserts on my cbr600, and there was no play after that, so I wasn’t expecting any play in a new bike. Had the dealer check the bike yesterday and like you’re saying a bit of play is normal.
@@Ocean4Life I noticed the play when I adjusted the chain after the first 400 miles. Personally I believe there should be no play, why would you design it that way? But since it was virtually new I have to assume they intended it to have play.
@@gpnmoab1 yeah, beats me too. But it’s been checked and cleared by the dealer. I noticed play in the rear sprocket in one of the shots in this video too, when he went from N to 1st. Guess it’s by design
Hi @TheMissendenFlyer I’m looking at both KTM 390 adventure and new BMW g310gs 2020 v for long touring, please suggest in terms of performance, ride comfort, reliability, fun factor !! Thanks
Watch my review of both - I prefer the KTM as I said in this video (did you watch it?)
Having the same query, getting inclined more towards the gs310 because of it's plush suspension. Will decide after a decent test ride.
Spending your own money would you buy this or your Honda crf 250?
In 2008 I brought a Suzuki drz 400sm @£4000 allowing for inflation and equipment this looks like a brilliant package.
If I were buying a new bike for green laning today I'd probably go for the KTM - but that's because I've already owned a CRF!! The CRF I think looks more like a dirt bike and has proven to be 100% bullet proof in the 6 years I've owned it...
Bought one today 👍👍👍
Congratulations....
Surely more people would be likely to take this off road than 20 grands worth of gs, and get a lot further too..
A carnet for a quarter of the price too.
Is it image that stops a lot of people riding these 'smaller ' bikes? It shouldn't.
Less is more maybe.
Nice one.
Happy travels
Couldn't agree more - whist I had this even I dared to try it off road....way under rated smaller capacity bikes - oodles of fun.
Think maybe the Honda CB500X is this bikes main competitor.
I've just bought one, its got 100 miles on it so far, brilliant little bike. been isolating since getting home so not had the chance to get out on it any more. I agree about the mirrors and exhaust entirely which are easily swapped. built-in sat nav is useful and I found a free app called "Turn by Turn" that uses whatever nav app you happen to have, I'm using TomTom, rather than the £7.99 KTM My ride one. I'm planning a trip to Normandy on mine in the spring conditions permitting.
Your app is it IOS air droid. Couldn’t seem to find it.
@@kevinjones7732 I use Android, the developer is Marius Wachtler
Cheers buddy should make my KTM test ride that little bit sweeter 😉
The screen can be mounted in a lower or higher position and 2 windshields of caring lengths can be ordered (KTM Aus website)
I just saw a ktm 1190 Adventure review. A real capable bike but a widow maker!
Ah Wendover..... takes me back to my days at RAF Halton....I used to glide from the airfield over the Chilterns... lovely part of the world....I have GS800, KTM 950SM and a Piaggio Medley 150. Thinking to get the 390 for a bit of light fun...
Good idea! As was the gliding.......lovely airfield at Halton isn't it....
@@TheMissendenFlyer When I look back I should also have taken advantage of doing my PPL. There were 2 Cessna 172 on the airfield and it only cost 25 quid an hour to learn to fly.....
Yay
At 29" inseam KTMs are off the menu for me. I wonder why they are so tall? I the front does look a bit like a magnified fly's head! But it looks good value.
Yes shame that...platform boots maybe?
Same for me! 5’7” and 29” Inseam sucks. Takes big boots!
I've a 27" inseam, no problems.
Love mine but prefer it in white as I'm not too keen on too much KTM orange. I had to fit an Akrapovic as my lawn mower had a better soundtrack and it looks much better too. For me, it's a really good value, fun to ride second bike to try a few green lanes on etc. although I'd say it's perfectly good enough as an only bike. It's surprisingly punchy for a smaller capacity single cylinder bike. I have the quickshifter which is indeed an option but the jury is out on reliability. Mine has been at the dealers for a week with ECU failure but I'm sure they'll get it sorted.....😯
Oh dear sorry to hear that Steve - which dealer do you use?? The guys at The KTM Centre in Hemel are brilliant....and I'd love to hear your lawn mower!
I am the owner of a KTM 390 Adventure which I bought in January 2021 as my very first motorcycle.
About four weeks ago, while riding on city streets, I noticed something unusual with the damping motion of the rear suspension and stopped immediately. The rear suspension was leaking fluid badly. I was able to ride back home and took the bike to the KTM dealer for a check. The KTM dealer received my bike on December 7, 2021. A month has passed, and they have no idea at all whether the faulty rear suspension is covered by the warranty and that it must be checked with the KTM factory sometime during mid-January. The bike is not in working condition and it is in their workshop since its breakdown.
This is a very disappointing and frustrating situation as I bought this bike mainly because of its alleged quality suspensions and its two-year warranty. Needless to say, KTM has not lived up to my expectations as a newbie in motorcycling.
Sorry to hear this - hope you get it sorted soon!
I think the bargain 390 derivative is the 2020 Husqvarna Svartpilen currently at £4200otr (which I have)
Svartpilen 401 at £4299 (correction)
Great first ride review of what could be a practical commuter, solo adventure bike and general fun tool. Looking forward to the forthcoming TMF 'dirty weekender' report. Maybe just repeat the day out that you recently aired (Range Rover to Salisbury Plain then CRF250 byway ride) as that would test both road and off road capabilities and the money you save on fuel by not using the Range Rover will pay for the comfort seat......? Looking forward to your next video on this bike, keep up the good work.
Was going to get the 390 Duke a couple of years ago to commute on. Did lots of research and found too many horror stories on reliability so went for a Ninja 400 and 10,000miles later in all weathers, the Kawasaki hasn’t missed a beat.
I got the duke, 2 years, 20,000km and just normal services, tyres, chain and sprockets to date. And it’s my every day ride to and from work, rain hail and shine. We can lane split and lane filter, and the high seat position makes that a breeze
Great review TMF the content just keeps getting better on this channel buy far the best bike reviews out there! The bike looks a fantastic all rounder maybe a good second bike for my 1290 Superduke GT!! Haha
Much appreciated!
Between you and F9 we have a good understanding of this tiny beast
Thank you Andre - I actually filmed this before Ryan posted his review, I found his take on the bike fascinating!
yea ryan said its shit vs your suck up ”review”
For Australian conditions where we do a lot more off road I would probably go for the Himalayan. KTM would be the better road bike. Put an Akrapovik can on the Enfield, you can play a really nice tune through the hills.
KLR or DRZ400e. Old and older, but here in Aus, tried and true.
A KTM that looks nice! Shame about the vibes, numbness, painful bum and buffeting. Would be good if you could test a few mid size scooters. Cheers.
Stay tuned!
Got this delivered yesterday ..what a hoot did a 150 miles up and around Kylesku and Ullapool very impressed , I think my 2019 tiger 800 may be staying in the garage.. great review.:)
Congratulations!
The KTM costs 25% more than the Himalayan so I am not sure it is a fair comparison. The KTM is probably more usable than the RE on fast roads, and by all reports, they are both likely to be as unreliable.
I just bought one in the States for $8,000.
Hi. Sorry to be hi-jacking the comments on this vid but if there's a way to message you via youtube, Mr Flyer, I can't bloody find it 😁
Regarding the channel Million Dollar Bogan. Dunno if you're aware of him? Aussie lad who's most definitely erm...an acquired taste. That notwithstanding I'd have thought his current problems with Hardly Ableson & corporate censorship would be of interest to you - take a look. Similar but very different to what Mr T.P One went through.
You can always e-mail me via my website Duncan, or contact me via Facebook, Twitter or Instagram or indeed leave a comment here....lots of ways to contact me. .....What are the issues he's having?
Ha ha 'bum trauma' made me laugh. I'm going to use that one! I hope you've got plenty of videos in the locker Andy for lockdown 🙄
I’m pleased to say I do - enough to get me to next Spring if needs be - stay tuned!
So what specification makes this an "adventure" bike? I know an adventure can be what you make it and all that. For some a Sunday ride out to the coast is an adventure! . But seriously though, when you really think about an adventure bike you do imagine something that you could take anywhere and do anything on. It's a nice little bike but tagging it the 390 "adventure" is stretching it a bit.
It's a Duke with different suspension, that's it pretty much
No one has a work truck over there, it's all vans.. the nemesis !
Looks like a great bike for the smaller person (me). I'm after a beginner small, big bike with green lane potential.
It ticks alot of boxes for me but I hate the KTM front end treatment and I'm not one for orange either!
Fair enough - great bike this for experienced and beginners alike.....you could do a lot worse!
So much greenery 🌳,
In which country you live???
England
250 USD for the quick shifter +. It’s a simple software unlock the dealer does. I love mine.
Not for me. Think it's an age thing. Pig ugly that "insect" look yuck. Not a bike you would look back at and admire. That end can. Looks like it came off an old Ford Cortina! Colour scheme. Well the future's not bright etc. But, I bet it goes great and handles well. Much prefer the husqvarna who use this motor in the 401s. BTW...the dead pan humour just keeps coming "bum trauma!" Pins and needles in fingers could also be an age thing..sorry. interesting review 👍
Totally disappointed with KTM. They had years to get this bike right, and have utterly failed to give it proper "adventure" credentials to the point that the RE Himalayan is a more accomplished bike off the tarmac. There is a market for small displacement ADV bikes for those that are getting on in years, and KTM and others have missed the mark time and again. If RE can squeeze another 10hp out of the Himalayan to make motorway miles just that bit easier, its totally wiped the competition. Why did it take all those years just to change tyres and handlebars from a Duke? Compare the ground clearance. Having said that, nice road bike.
There's a manufactures agreement to NEVER build a smaller capacity adventure bike that ticks all the boxes, in my opinion. Why ?....it would kill the market stone dead for all the overpriced, overweight, gizmo laden adventure bikes currently on sale. One example of many, was the Honda Varadero. With a more focused design and a mid-capacity engine it could've been a real winner. But no - instead Honda gave buyers the choice of a popgun 125, or a lard arse one thousand, and nothing else in between : )
Know what you’re saying but maybe you’re just not the target market, KTM seem to be aiming at younger riders and/or older riders just dipping their toes into ADV...plus aiming at global markets, mainly India? Clearly road biased but I’ve seen a number of reviews showing it has plenty of capability off road in the right hands if not too extreme. Being unkind, I guess it is a better than average SUV at home in most situations, or a fantastic compromise capable of doing most things well and having a lot of fun on. I am very tempted as a older but new rider, sounds ideal.
@@Dreddingbath The KTM's nice enough, but it's really just a road bike dressed up to look the part. I think the Himalayan's the best all terrain bike out of the box for anyone who doesn't want to spend a fortune, plus it's got decent long distance comfort & luggage carrying capacity. Of course they deliberately gave it an under powered motor to comply with my conspiracy theory.
Sounds like the ergo seat (+5mm) then the lowering (-20mm) would be a good couple of upgrades for you.
Seen on other neviews that it will top out at 169 KPH, 105 MPH.
The 2022 has some inprovements.
That bum trauma sounds a worry! :D hahaha
Would have been nice if it had Fat bars, may help reduce the vibes a bit.
MVDBR Enduro have one of these that they properly take off road and it does really well!
I think had I not gotten a Beta Alp 4.0 as my first recent dirtybike, this would have done well as a modern alternative.
I am very much looking forward to the rumoured 490 Adventure... a twin so less stressed than this 390... and hopefully a stronger clutch.
This looks mint, and from the vids I have seen is way capable as a dualsport A bike! :-)
Owened this bike, LOVED IT! traded it for a 350 dual sport, because I thought I"d be doing more hard core enduro stuff, and ended up buying a dedicated Enduro dirt bike (KTM 250 XC-W TPI) instead, and I now miss having the 390. You get the right mods in there (ergo seat, spoked wheels, bar risers, and dirt bike style pegs... It becomes a capable off-roader, while maintaining the in tow and on road capabilities well.
My sort of bike TMF, relatively low cost/ displacement, i now need to look into service intervals & costs here in Thailand, cheers mate.
I'm gonna buy the Duke 390 in LOS, maybe next year. I'm currently riding around on my GSXS 150....plenty fun for my environment ...for now....555.
Had the Duke 390 based on your review, loved it but my 6’1” frame was just too big really and I swapped it for an old GS!!
Yes I'm 5.11 and most of the bikes now look too tiddly for me . Being 18 stone doesn't help either. Going to have to be a versys or vstrom for me
I am 6ft 3 and 15 stone and when my mate persuaded me to let him have my old 1200GS, I bought one of these. I've had it a year now, and it's a real keeper.
I am 6ft 3 and 15.5 stone and find mine comfortable and capable. The UA-camr "The Lofty Biker" is 6ft 5 and 17stone and his review agrees. I find the VStrom performs the same, but is much heavier.
Has anyone had a problem with starting when cold and sometimes hot. It takes 4 or more times to hit starter. Starts for half second and then stalls. Dealer has had it 2 weeks and along with KTM is unable to fix. Bike only has 300 miles on it and has done since I brought it home, really frustrated!
Looks like it would be a great bike to get to the green lanes.
Stay tuned for more on that soon!
I was just checking to see if you still open with that same annoying phrase
Sure do!
Just got myself one last week here in India. We get it at a take home price of 3500 quid and 15 quid for a service with an oil and filter change and u can thrash it around without a worry.
First impressions (for me) linger . . . . Light, chuckable, easy to please, reasonble kit for a reasonable price. And you already rate it ahead of the Himalayan (surely no surprise) and GS310 (but this IS a surprise), goodness me. A bit short of element protection. Photoshop out the KTM colour and I couldn't help concluding that it actually looked like a chinese cheapo. Far from neat. The stuck-on preying mantiss bits do nothing for me. I get the immediate impression when jumping on for the first time. Not so keen on the numb bum and tingling hands! So look forward to its comparison with the GS310.
RyanF9 commented on the footpegs being angled forward on their review. Said the bike keeps wanting to pitch him over the handlebars when riding stood up. Would like your thoughts on that. I'm really liking this bike to be honest. Thanks for another great video. Can't wait for you to take it offroad. 😄
i started with this one as my very first bike (i upgraded to a moto guzzi v85 by now) and it was a perfect choice
decent but not too much power and super light as you mentioned, but what really stands out imo is the security the modern electronics provide for this price
with the lean sensitive abs you can grab your brakes in a curve with no problem if you really need to
Yes a lot of bike for the money is't it - I guess you didn't keep it long then??
@@TheMissendenFlyer 7 months, but thanks to quarantine i put 15.000 km on it in that time and i felt like i am ready for something bigger
Great video again..
I've been trying to find a small adventure bike I like the BMW G310GS but this KTM is quite nice too..
I need a second bike for commuting ect and being able to do some light green lane riding would be great. I've been trying to find a 400 or 450cc twin, but doesn't seem to be anything on the market..
So it might be the baby BM but Ii will have to be a 2021 model because for some silly reason on the 2022 models you can't switch the abs off.. which to me is a bit stupid on a bike made for on and off road.. The suspension is a bit of a let down too on the BM, I will have to spend another £1000 to upgrade and pay someone to do the work as I'm to old and suffer with arthritis, so can't do the work myself these days, and for a ex mechanic it's hard letting someone else work on your vehicle and have to pay them to do so..
Anyway I wish there was more choice for small to mid size adventure bikes..
I think the manufacturers are missing out..
Thanks again for another great video.. always love your content..
Ride Safe.. 🤟😎
Cheers BB - and good luck finding the right bike!
riding a slow bike fast > riding a fast bike slow
Very true....
The vibrations are a deal killer for me. Probably get a crf300l rally or a klr 650.
Nice review, TMF. The bike's reluctance to get into neutral may be a legacy of KTMs dirt bike heritage: when off road, you never want to find neutral by accident, as it can lead to disasterous consequences. Every KTM, Husaberg, Husqvarna enduro or dirt bike I've ever ridden has been reluctant to find neutral, supposedly for that reason. As for serious off roading, I think the 390 lacks in the suspension and ground clearance department, although for green laning, it will probably excel. Cheers.
Yes as an intro to light off-roading this is great - any hardcore dirt biker would of course look elsewhere. Interesting what you say about the gearbox! Cheers....
This is the first time I have nothing to say; you already said it all.
It could be of course that I’m just lazy but if that was the case...would I write this comment 🤔
I'm 5'6". Can it be lowered to suit?
Dunno...(sorry!)
Been looking at the 390 duke, BMW G310 and the Honda CB300R, and cannot decide between them, all look good value for the price point. I have had my share of bigger faster bikes, and now just a little everyday bit of fun bike
I'd go for one of the KTM's - either this or the 390 Duke - brilliant little machines.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer my heart says the 390, just think it looks like a young lads bike, and even though I dont think I look my age I am an old git now :), but the KTM does have more tech which I like, decions decisons, as soon as get back to UK, I will book test rides and get one sorted
@@SUFCTERRY what about a sv650x, older styling and an engine that has oomf but not crazy sportbike power. Lovely bike!
@@slakk5093 the power is not a problem, had lots of big bikes, but now just fancy a smaller bike, the SV is a nice bike, but is too dated, I honestly cannot stand the look of the old style front forks
Ryan FortNine already set fire to this bike. May as well withdraw from sale.
I dont think real ADV people will look at this as an option, no real ground clearance for starters; but how many GS1200 go off road? Just another toy.......
360p vid? not watchable - is that you tube?
Its because it's just been uploaded...it will turn to 1080/720 60fps later on with much better quality
@@markpulling12 ty tends to nerf notifications
For someone new to motorcycles, can you explain what you mean by "the character of a single-cylinder bike"?
Compared to a multi cylinder bike singles are "thumpy" and torquey....if you ride one and then ride an inline 4 you'll immediately see what I'm talking about!
Thanks for the review. UK expat trying to decide between this and 2021 G310GS as both would be perfect for where I currently live in the Philippines. KTM is edging it I reckon - cheaper than the BMW here too!
nice
An aftermarket seat? Maybe an aftermarket backside would be the better option!
Are they available?
@@TheMissendenFlyer IF not, then there is a gap in the market!
How do you think it compares with the CRF? A worthy replacement or playing a different game?
The CRF looks better IMO and is possibly more bullet proof - but I think this is an excellent alternative...
KTM appear to have an optional anti-butt-trauma Ergo seat "...for increased seating comfort" and an Akra' slip-on too.
A little bit of bum trauma. I've just been on the KTM UK website and this feature is not listed! As always, the devil is in the detail (and the botty pain).
Another great review... is there a reason you haven't put out the next videos on the r18
The reason is Andy is limited to a 24 hour day he has stuff already filmed a whole year ahead into 2021 but it's a case of getting it edited and uploaded. I think he is already uploading 3 times a week if not more.
Silver Arrow - I only had access to the BMW R18 from a dealer for a single test ride, the bikes you see me doing multiple videos on are those that manufacturers themselves lend me for a period of weeks from their press fleets - sadly I don't yet think the R18 is available to me from BMW UK themselves...hopeful I can bring you more videos on it next year though once it is....
So I'm considering this or the Suzuki V-Strom 650...I realize that might not seem like a fair comparison but they're similarly priced and similar power to weight ratio, with the Suzuki being a little more expensive but also a little more powerful (V-Strom 650 = 0.1468hp/lb, 390 ADV = 0.1161hp/lb). I feel like the 650 would handle the paved roads better but the 390 would be easier to handle when the pavement ends...thoughts?
Go for the 650....
l ve heard there s issues with this motor ,what do you know about that ?? also does it any travel cases for it ??
360p only
It will improve later on , youtube sets it low when it's first uploaded
Good old honda xr600r is 146kg wet. 158kg is anything but light! If I remember correctly the ktm 640 adventure was 158ish dry.
Well its light compared to the road bikes I normally ride....
Alway state I'm a old school sports tourer fan, and not so much into adventure bikes, however if I was to go down that route this small light weight that could tackle a bit of light off roading seems the way to go, and well priced too, so look forward to your future Vlogs.
Cheers TMF
What’s the fuel economy on one of these beasts?
I don’t know - pretty good I would think…
Range with a 14.5 litre tank - "well over a 100 miles" - Triumph put smaller tanks on some of their 1200cc bikes. I would hope for 60/70 mpg from a small single cylinder, well over 200 miles perhaps.
Yes apparently it is good for over 200 miles per tank....
"Cups your buttocks" with appropriate (or inappropriate) hand signals. I think there was an 'Ooo Matron' moment on the R18 video when you overtook a 'young lady'. I love the TMF "Carry on up the double entendre" moments!
I'm glad they're not wasted on you Simon!
Great video .👍😊
Looking forward to hear what you think about the bike after spending time on it.
I hope you take Mrs Flyer out for a spin, it would be great to get both of your opinions about this bike two up.
Amazing TMF, I was just searching for reviews of this bike last night. Perfect timing!!
Glad I could help!
Hello, I would like to recommend this video to you, especially from min. 37:00 - 42:00 min.
Regards from Berlin
I can’t wait to get back to Blighty (or just Europe) to test ride some adventure bikes. They are unicorn rare in Vietnam. If you can find one they are double the price of Europe.
Was that an Allen key bolt in the front of the screen? Looks like if you un screw it the screen may be adjustable?
A bike I'm genuinely interested in ,I have a gsa for touring and cruising, a street ,triple for a bit more spirit .I'm looking for a bike to do a bit of Europe's TET and local Scottish b road, and UK Green lanes, one on the radar is the T7 and the other is this. If only Yamaha made an mt03 version like the 390...my only fear is KTMs reliability and service fears reputation ,that is obviously out there. I'll be watching for your views on this bike
Stay tuned - lots more to come!
Thanks Andy...ust rented one in Italy....perfect for lowish speeds but I found the vibes and buffeting too much at motorway speeds....not sure if that's juat a feature of all single cylinder bikes?
Yes it possibly is - vibration kind of comes with the territory.....
I have just sold my 390 Duke. I found its over tuned engine, or "peppy nature" just annoying and to me it was gutless in most situations.
I can`t think how this engine could work off road.
You only get over 40 bhp from a 373 cc 4 stroke single at a cost
It was light and easy to pull out of the garage but the occasions got less and less.
I finished up hardly riding it.
Each to their own ,I expect.
Fair enough!