Thanks for having me on the channel! This was a ton of fun, and I'm still genuinely surprised by the amount we have in common. Also, the pressure to read Malazan has never been greater, lol
It was fun discovering you too are a former community college student and vegetarian married to a Nepali and that you also have family in Washington in addition to being an aspiring writer who has not yet read Rhythm of War! Not to mention our natural charm, intelligence, and humility . . . Thanks so much for the awesome chat, Jake!
The reason your channel is so amazing Philip, is that the audience learns so much from any type of video you do. I can only imagine the same will be said when your books get into the hands of all readers. ☺️
Well, that was one of the most fascinating and insightful conversations on the process of becoming a fantasy writer that I've seen. It was cool that Jake, as an aspiring writer, was interested in having you dig into your writing journey a bit more than you have here on BookTube. I was intrigued by the take you came to on pace and action, and wholeheartedly agree. There are down sides and up sides to pace-pace-pace. I think each writer has to find their own balance, without pandering to a perceived audience expectation. I think it's a real luxury, and perhaps somewhat of a privilege, to have spent a longer period working on a book or series. I can look back and definitely say that I'm very glad I didn't publish at certain points when I imagined it might be close to ready. But I also agree that, at some point, you've got to get it out there. There will be growth and learning in that, as well. And, as you say, that's what it's all about--continuing to learn. Thanks to you both!
Thanks, Vaughn. I feel very similarly about the publishing decision. There were a few points in the evolution of my books when I thought I was near the end . . . But all good things come to an end, right? One hopes a good end!
Welcome to WA, Jake! Philip is spot on on the Olympic Peninsula… lots of beautiful beaches to explore out there as well (Ruby Beach, Neah Bay, etc). Loved listening and CANNOT wait for that inevitable book release, Philip! Cheers fellas!
This was a very interesting discussion. I am currently over halfway through Fire and Blood after having put it off for too long. It was actually Mike's Book Reviews's hype for the upcoming tv-series which made me decide to bump it up my TBR. What I find especially interesting about Fire and Blood is that it reminds me of the encyclopedia The World of Ice and Fire which I read back in 2016 while simultaneously pouring over the maps from The Lands of Ice and Fire. Although not a novel in its traditional sense I'm greatly enjoying Fire and Blood because GRRM's writing really engages me and I'm so hungry for more from this world he's created. When you talked about manga at the end I thought that I should recommend you to read The Ghost in the Shell manga. It, along with the original anime film which was released in the 90's brings up some really profound questions about life and existence. It's actually quite philosophical and I think that you would find it interesting. It is also not so long, only 2 volumes with an additional 1.5 volume that added some story in between. I'm not that much of a manga or anime fan, and haven't read any other than Ghost in the Shell, and only seen a few other anime movies, but in my opinion Ghost in the Shell really sticks out and can be enjoyed by anyone, especially a grown up audience. Also, I too have seen that more and more booktubers have picked up Berserk, Vinland Saga, etc. so I'm thinking of maybe giving a few of them a go to expand my horizons on this front. Anyways, always a pleasure to watch your videos Philip, and great to make an aquaintance with other booktubers you invite for discussions.
Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the discussion, and I appreciate the recommendation for The Ghost in the Shell. If I do end up connecting with Manga, it will most likely be with some thoughtful storytelling of the sort you’re describing. All the best!
This is just what i needed to see when i get of a 13hr grave shift. Two of my favorite youtubers in delightful conversation. Thank you both for all that you do!
Glad to give you some much needed relief after that shift! I once had graveyard shift at a job I didn't love, but it was only 8 hours, not 13. Cheers, Mawly!
Jake is always good at pulling a laugh from us haha, clever videos. It is nice that Dear Dr Fantasy is reaching content creators from all various corners of booktube. Bast wishes, Philip.
I'd like to thank Man Carrying Thing for setting the precedent of people named Jake on Dear Doctor Fantasy. I am probably even more confident about Jake liking Malazan, and am still very sure he will like First Law
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Well thank you so much! Seriously, wonderful interview too. I'm absolutely loving this series. Thanks for putting it together and all the work you do
Your commentary is always eloquent and insightful, Phillip. Your videos have enhanced my enjoyment of fantasy literature considerably in the year and a half since I found your channel. Can't wait to read your book whenever it ends up being published - there's not a lot of South Asian-influenced civilizations in fantasy, so I'm especially excited to read about that part of it.
Thanks so much! I expect there to be more and more fantasy coming from South Asia and drawing from its rich and vast cultures in the coming years, and I very much look forward to it!
Finally made my way through this whole chat. I enjoyed the commonalities and as always I enjoy seeing how many topics you chat about! And I was impressed with your reference to Beethoven’s late string quartets, which this musician considers one of the pinnacles of Western civilization!
I’m glad to hear that, Josh! Both my daughters are cellists, the elder having attended the Juilliard Pre-College Program before joining the Princeton University Orchestra, eventually becoming first chair there. I’m not very talented musically, but I love music and am glad we’ve been able to give our daughters music in their lives.
What a great conversation. Glad you had Jake on. I love to see the serious thoughtful side of him. Love his humor as well. And I’m definitely on board for your trilogy Philip. Can’t wait to read it 😀
I was very excited to see Man Carrying Thing as your next guest! Jake makes hilarious sketches, but he also seems very smart and his book-related content is great. Your conversation was very interesting!
What you said about traveling and how transformative that is, that resonates strongly with me. For my master's science project, I lived in the Philippines for half a year and stayed at a local university on Luzon and to this day, more than 10 years later, I still think about it often and it had a huge impact on me. Ever since, I've traveled extensively, to dozens of countries.
When recommending First Law to people, I usually like to tell them that the plot is VERY in the the background. Like, you need to come in with zero expectations for plot. This isn’t some adventure epic high fantasy, and the plot is actually amazing! But at the end of every book, I’m always amazed by how little actually happened. Even at the end of the first trilogy, I felt like we had barely scratched the surface! There’s so much more we could have gotten from Logan, Bayaz, Glokta, Ardee, Furious, Jezel, etc, But the fact that we don’t get more, makes it SO REAL! It’s like we’re really following these characters through certain days of their lives, but those lives existed before, and continue after.
Only just finished watching this one, but it was another amazing episode! Lots of fascinating topics that you guys bonded over, I loved it! Also, bonus points for this thumbnail, haha 😝
What a great surprise! I only recently discovered MCT, and fell instantly in love with it. Especially since I love the kind of video essays he makes fun of. What a great joint venture of two great channels!
Halfway through the episode and I’m loving it. It’s so cool that Jake also wants to be a full time writer, as do I. Funny he also majored in English, I also majored in that before I forsook University altogether and tried other things.
Wow, another of the Greats on Dear Dr Fantasy! Thank you, Philip for another fabulous, interesting, awesome (please insert adjective of your choice while I work on my vocabulary to come up with more exciting words) episode! And look at that color co-ordinated thumbnail! You really came through on that!😁
This was such a fun conversation to listen to over the backdrop of watching a bulldozer push dirt around. And the good Doctor has come out as Manga-curious, which is probably a natural progression for a comic book reader, looking forward to your impressions of the form if you do get stuck in. Jake did strike me as being older than early twenties, must be the academic demeanor... 😂
Just a while ago I was mentioning on reddit what I would give that AP and Philip would sit down and discuss the themes in One Piece! You guys love themes. You are in for a TREAT. And now it MIGHT just happen, the probability is not actually zero!
The probability of me giving Manga a try is fairly high, though it might not be until next year. I'm not sure about my Nemesis, A Critical Dragon . . . But you never know!
Jake is fantastic, and I imagine he will love Abercrombie! Hope to hear his thoughts on Malazan as well! I’m halfway through the discussion and loving all this talk about Nepal. What a fantastic and unusual point of connection that you two share. Though I’ve never been, sometime I may share with you a brief point of connection I had with Kathmandu.
I look forward to hearing about this Kathmandu connection, Johanna! You should have seen our faces (pre-recording) when we figured out that the other had also married a Nepali. All the best!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy That might have been my favorite part of the discussion though this was wonderful from beginning to end. I got “carried” away listening and finished this morning. I would love to hear your thoughts on Vinland Saga if you get to that someday!
Another great show, Philip. It was fun listening to the two of you. Now, I want to jump on the "manga" topic that's being pushed on every booktuber. Even though I would love for you to try it out, I firmly believe you should be aware of some things before attempting a series. Target demographic, being one of them. Despite loving One Piece since I started it 25 years ago, it is a Shonen (mainly targeted towards male teenagers) and it is subject to the specific editing process of most Shonen manga, which might be tough to get into as a first time adult reader. Don't get me wrong, there are very good Shonen, One Piece being one of them with a rich worldbuilding and cast of characters, etc. But I believe you'd get a better sense of the possibilities of this medium starting with a Seinen series (targeted for adults), which will be less strained by the harsh editing of a Shonen type. You've heard of such series as Vinland Saga, Berserk, Vagabond, Monster, 20th Century Boys, or even Akira which remains a classic. Seinen are also "shorter" series than the most famous Shonen (One Piece being 100+ volumes)... that helps. And, I'll finish with this one (although it was targeted as a Shonen in 1982... but reads as a Seinen), I would strongly recommend something that never comes up but is a recognized masterpiece, an ecological fable set in a somewhat fantasy world : Nausicaa, by the brilliant Hayao Miyazaki. If you've watched any of his animated movies from Studio Ghibli (Princess Mononoke; Spirited Away; Totoro...) you'll know what a great story teller the man is, and Nausicaa is his baby in 7 volumes.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy My pleasure, Philip. It's a fantastic medium, but it comes with an editorial culture that can rub adult newcomers the wrong way.
Thank you for this conversation Phillip! I loved the cross cultural stories about Nepal and the Nepali Culture, as an Arab, I feel there's a few commonalities, especially with the hospitality part. Going to my grandmother's house every weekend, I'd never escape the dining table without eating seconds 'with loving insistence', and the parts where you both discuss the writing process and nuances that come with that. This has been a standout episode. I agree about the DIsney Star Wars, it lacked the heart of the original trilogy and seemed like a 'committee project'.
I’m so glad you enjoyed this one, Ghalib! We have so much to learn from people all over the world. Living in Nepal was certainly one of the most important and transformative experiences in my life. My best to you!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Many thanks! I think Vinland Saga will be very much in your wheel-house as a medievalist, I for one am very interested to hear your thoughts if and when you get around to it. Plus, I personally believe it is one of the best drawn manga. Berserk too, I think you might enjoy.
I have some doubts about the research that suggests people enjoy books more when they know the ending. I suspect it might depend on the genre. When you are reading a mystery for the first time, you definitely don't want to know the ending, because part of the fun is to try and figure out "whodunit". However, I admit that the best mystery novels have excellent re-reading value, for example the Cormoran Strike series by the great J K Rowling. Highly recommended.
Great points, Diptanjan! Since great mystery novels have high rereading value, it follows that readers experience much more than just trying to figure out the “whodunnit” part. They must enjoy being immersed in the journey even when they know where it goes.
Great chat guys! We should start the «Nepali Dinner Trauma Survivor Support Group»😆 10 years on, and I still have Sisyphean nightmares of neverending dinner plates!
You can read Knight of Knives anytime, Eugene. It’s set before Gardens of the Moon (except for the very first part of the prologue, which is much earlier than the rest of Gardens of the Moon. I recommend the rest of the books in publication order. In other words, read Return of the Crimson Guard after The Bonehunters, etc. Happy reading!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks! Reading through a lot of quality modern Fantasy while writing my own manuscript now. Your own experience you shared with Jake is sounding like my own! Very much enjoying the post-read video binges. Big fan of the more classroom feeling videos from yourself and AP! It's like I am sitting back in Undergrad but my professors are obsessed with Malazan. What is not to love?
He's right about Donald Westlake(Richard Stark). There's a great story about a writing seminar Harlan Ellison was teaching. He was talking to a student after class, and to be a better writer he told him to put down Ulysses and go read Donald Westlake. Just great little crime fictions. You would really like John Crowley I think. He leans more to magical realism than fantasy really, no battles an evil one. More using fantasy to explore more personal stories.
I'm firmly on the record as loving the latest Dune movie. I didn't get a chance to mention that, but perhaps I'll have another chance to chat with Jake about it.
A....at this point I can't tell if it's a real zoom call or a skit lol But seriously, it's very interesting to listen an intellectual talk about writing!
I think it would be near impossible for him not to like Abercrombie. To the extent that if he didn't like it he looked up and realized it wasn't an Abercrombie book he was reading.
Let me tell you that I share your opinion about Joe Abercrombie's humor. But the best to me, is that his characters are very complex. I mean, they aren't perfect. For instance the inquisitor Sand Dan Glokta, who is conceited and even arrogant. But on the other hand, He's honest and in his own way, He has a sense of honor. I am very much enjoying the discussion, and I'm learning too much. Many thanks to share.
If you stick with One Piece I think you'll love it. It's worth pointing out that One Piece has a digitally-colored manga that makes it far easier to take in IMO - I can't normally deal with the black and white nature of manga. Oda IMO belongs in the conversation of best fantasy author right up there with Tolkien, Jordan, Erikson, Hobb, etc.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy The world building in particular is genius. It's as if you made a galaxy an ocean, and planets islands. The world constantly feels new every time you get to a new island, as after a certain point the islands have their own cultural and racial divides, cultures, political conflicts, geography, etc etc. Just constantly keeps things feeling fresh.
Don't say anything is based on The Magnificent Seven - The Magnificent Seven is just a rip off of The Seven Samurai. Likewise, A Fistful of Dollars is a ripoff of Yojimbo, etc. Western films love to rip off Akira Kurosawa.
Very true about The Seven Samurai being the wellspring. King, of course, gave overt nods to The Magnificent Seven, but I’m sure he’s aware it was inspired by The Seven Samurai. Cheers!
Thanks for having me on the channel! This was a ton of fun, and I'm still genuinely surprised by the amount we have in common. Also, the pressure to read Malazan has never been greater, lol
It was fun discovering you too are a former community college student and vegetarian married to a Nepali and that you also have family in Washington in addition to being an aspiring writer who has not yet read Rhythm of War! Not to mention our natural charm, intelligence, and humility . . . Thanks so much for the awesome chat, Jake!
excuse me sir you have tricked me by doing an actual interview
@@ammyvl1 You never know what he’ll be carrying out!
In the process of reading malazan I shall back this pressure 100% also read Evan winters @man carrying thing
These men carried this conversation 💞💞
Ha ha! Thank you!
The reason your channel is so amazing Philip, is that the audience learns so much from any type of video you do. I can only imagine the same will be said when your books get into the hands of all readers. ☺️
Thank you, Matthew! That’s very kind of you, and I hope that will be the case!
Didn’t even watch yet and I know this is going to hold some of the funniest/intelligent moments on booktube
I hope it will prove enjoyable! I certainly had a great time talking with Jake.
Well, that was one of the most fascinating and insightful conversations on the process of becoming a fantasy writer that I've seen. It was cool that Jake, as an aspiring writer, was interested in having you dig into your writing journey a bit more than you have here on BookTube. I was intrigued by the take you came to on pace and action, and wholeheartedly agree. There are down sides and up sides to pace-pace-pace. I think each writer has to find their own balance, without pandering to a perceived audience expectation.
I think it's a real luxury, and perhaps somewhat of a privilege, to have spent a longer period working on a book or series. I can look back and definitely say that I'm very glad I didn't publish at certain points when I imagined it might be close to ready. But I also agree that, at some point, you've got to get it out there. There will be growth and learning in that, as well. And, as you say, that's what it's all about--continuing to learn. Thanks to you both!
Thanks, Vaughn. I feel very similarly about the publishing decision. There were a few points in the evolution of my books when I thought I was near the end . . . But all good things come to an end, right? One hopes a good end!
Commenting early! I love when you get carried away with thumbnails, Philip, and I look forward to watching this discussion!
So, has Jake put paid to the expression that the Chase is better than the catch?
Ha ha! Thanks, Johanna! I might just spend the rest of my free time making extra thumbnails and chuckling the whole time . . .
I mean, he really is being carried away
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy They’re so fun, and I guess we’ve now confirmed that Dr. Fantasy stands in his socks 🧦 (or is carried in his socks)!
@@Johanna_reads Who needs shoes when someone is carrying you, right? 😁
This was one of my favorite Dr Fantasy episodes fellas! Thanks for doing these Phillip!
My pleasure, Michael, and I’m glad you enjoyed the chat!
Welcome to WA, Jake! Philip is spot on on the Olympic Peninsula… lots of beautiful beaches to explore out there as well (Ruby Beach, Neah Bay, etc). Loved listening and CANNOT wait for that inevitable book release, Philip! Cheers fellas!
Thanks, Tim! The temperate rainforests on the Olympic Peninsula are the closest I’ve been to Lothlorien. All the best!
This was a very interesting discussion. I am currently over halfway through Fire and Blood after having put it off for too long. It was actually Mike's Book Reviews's hype for the upcoming tv-series which made me decide to bump it up my TBR. What I find especially interesting about Fire and Blood is that it reminds me of the encyclopedia The World of Ice and Fire which I read back in 2016 while simultaneously pouring over the maps from The Lands of Ice and Fire. Although not a novel in its traditional sense I'm greatly enjoying Fire and Blood because GRRM's writing really engages me and I'm so hungry for more from this world he's created.
When you talked about manga at the end I thought that I should recommend you to read The Ghost in the Shell manga. It, along with the original anime film which was released in the 90's brings up some really profound questions about life and existence. It's actually quite philosophical and I think that you would find it interesting. It is also not so long, only 2 volumes with an additional 1.5 volume that added some story in between. I'm not that much of a manga or anime fan, and haven't read any other than Ghost in the Shell, and only seen a few other anime movies, but in my opinion Ghost in the Shell really sticks out and can be enjoyed by anyone, especially a grown up audience.
Also, I too have seen that more and more booktubers have picked up Berserk, Vinland Saga, etc. so I'm thinking of maybe giving a few of them a go to expand my horizons on this front.
Anyways, always a pleasure to watch your videos Philip, and great to make an aquaintance with other booktubers you invite for discussions.
Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the discussion, and I appreciate the recommendation for The Ghost in the Shell. If I do end up connecting with Manga, it will most likely be with some thoughtful storytelling of the sort you’re describing. All the best!
This is just what i needed to see when i get of a 13hr grave shift. Two of my favorite youtubers in delightful conversation. Thank you both for all that you do!
Glad to give you some much needed relief after that shift! I once had graveyard shift at a job I didn't love, but it was only 8 hours, not 13. Cheers, Mawly!
Cheers and Tusen tak, mitt bror!
Jake is always good at pulling a laugh from us haha, clever videos. It is nice that Dear Dr Fantasy is reaching content creators from all various corners of booktube.
Bast wishes, Philip.
Thanks, Simon! It was a huge pleasure to chat with Jake, and I’m glad you enjoyed the discussion.
Crazy how far Jake has come, I was a sub since under 8k!
I’ve personally never watched another channel grow that fast. Pretty amazing!
I'd like to thank Man Carrying Thing for setting the precedent of people named Jake on Dear Doctor Fantasy.
I am probably even more confident about Jake liking Malazan, and am still very sure he will like First Law
Seems to me that everyone I know named Jake on BookTube is pretty smart. Coincidence? Hmmmm.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I'm sure Jake the bookish drummer will really appreciate this complement.
Possibly my favorite thumbnail ever
Ha ha! Thanks, Bryce! Coming from a fellow whose sense of humor I love, your compliment is awesome!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Well thank you so much! Seriously, wonderful interview too. I'm absolutely loving this series. Thanks for putting it together and all the work you do
Your commentary is always eloquent and insightful, Phillip. Your videos have enhanced my enjoyment of fantasy literature considerably in the year and a half since I found your channel. Can't wait to read your book whenever it ends up being published - there's not a lot of South Asian-influenced civilizations in fantasy, so I'm especially excited to read about that part of it.
Thanks so much! I expect there to be more and more fantasy coming from South Asia and drawing from its rich and vast cultures in the coming years, and I very much look forward to it!
Finally made my way through this whole chat. I enjoyed the commonalities and as always I enjoy seeing how many topics you chat about! And I was impressed with your reference to Beethoven’s late string quartets, which this musician considers one of the pinnacles of Western civilization!
I’m glad to hear that, Josh! Both my daughters are cellists, the elder having attended the Juilliard Pre-College Program before joining the Princeton University Orchestra, eventually becoming first chair there. I’m not very talented musically, but I love music and am glad we’ve been able to give our daughters music in their lives.
That's fantastic! I've known some musicians that have gone through the pre-college program at Juilliard. She must have been quite distinguished!
@@RedFuryBooks Thanks, Josh. I am a proud dad, I confess!
What a great conversation. Glad you had Jake on. I love to see the serious thoughtful side of him. Love his humor as well. And I’m definitely on board for your trilogy Philip. Can’t wait to read it 😀
Thank you, Darren! Jake is definitely a thinker, and I believe that's a big part of the brilliance behind his humor.
I was very excited to see Man Carrying Thing as your next guest! Jake makes hilarious sketches, but he also seems very smart and his book-related content is great. Your conversation was very interesting!
Thanks, Kevin! Jake is indeed very smart, which is likely helpful for those hilarious skits. It was a huge pleasure to chat with him.
That was a great interview with the man carrything the thing
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
What you said about traveling and how transformative that is, that resonates strongly with me. For my master's science project, I lived in the Philippines for half a year and stayed at a local university on Luzon and to this day, more than 10 years later, I still think about it often and it had a huge impact on me. Ever since, I've traveled extensively, to dozens of countries.
It’s the best way I’ve discovered of getting to know not only new perspectives but also myself. Cheers, Jeroen!
Ha! You got Man Carrying Thing! Sooo cool. Gonna watch now.
Happy Friday!
It was incredibly cool to chat with him, Anthony. Lots of great stuff happening on his channel. Happy Friday to you too!
greetings from Washington state! Thanks gentlemen!
Greetings, you lucky fellow! My best to you in beautiful Washington, Mathias!
Niiice, Big fan of man carrying things. Thank you Philip for this video. Watching it now
Thanks, Avi! I hope you enjoy the chat -- I definitely did!
Happy weekend reading to you!! 😊🦋
Thanks, Safina, and the same to you!
When recommending First Law to people, I usually like to tell them that the plot is VERY in the the background. Like, you need to come in with zero expectations for plot.
This isn’t some adventure epic high fantasy, and the plot is actually amazing! But at the end of every book, I’m always amazed by how little actually happened.
Even at the end of the first trilogy, I felt like we had barely scratched the surface! There’s so much more we could have gotten from Logan, Bayaz, Glokta, Ardee, Furious, Jezel, etc,
But the fact that we don’t get more, makes it SO REAL! It’s like we’re really following these characters through certain days of their lives, but those lives existed before, and continue after.
That’s an excellent description of the First Law experience, James. It’s definitely a series that makes me wish for more.
Only just finished watching this one, but it was another amazing episode! Lots of fascinating topics that you guys bonded over, I loved it!
Also, bonus points for this thumbnail, haha 😝
I’m glad you enjoyed the chat and the thumbnail, Esmay! It was funny how we kept finding things in common.
A real meeting of the minds! Two men of culture!
Thank you, Lars! 😊
What a great surprise! I only recently discovered MCT, and fell instantly in love with it. Especially since I love the kind of video essays he makes fun of. What a great joint venture of two great channels!
Jake is brilliant at making fun of things that I repeatedly find reflections of myself in, which is one of the reasons I love his humor.
Halfway through the episode and I’m loving it. It’s so cool that Jake also wants to be a full time writer, as do I. Funny he also majored in English, I also majored in that before I forsook University altogether and tried other things.
There’s a high likelihood of finding us aspiring writers here on BookTube. Cheers, Marco!
Wow, another of the Greats on Dear Dr Fantasy!
Thank you, Philip for another fabulous, interesting, awesome (please insert adjective of your choice while I work on my vocabulary to come up with more exciting words) episode!
And look at that color co-ordinated thumbnail! You really came through on that!😁
Color coordinated! And wait until you see my next guest . . .
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Oooh, now I'm very curious who that could be. Daniel Greene?😁🤣
This was such a fun conversation to listen to over the backdrop of watching a bulldozer push dirt around.
And the good Doctor has come out as Manga-curious, which is probably a natural progression for a comic book reader, looking forward to your impressions of the form if you do get stuck in.
Jake did strike me as being older than early twenties, must be the academic demeanor...
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For a guy who makes very funny videos, Jake has a certain gravitas, I think. Let's see what happens with the Manga stuff. Cheers, Paul!
Quite the convergence!
It was, indeed! Cheers, Bennett!
Just a while ago I was mentioning on reddit what I would give that AP and Philip would sit down and discuss the themes in One Piece! You guys love themes. You are in for a TREAT. And now it MIGHT just happen, the probability is not actually zero!
The probability of me giving Manga a try is fairly high, though it might not be until next year. I'm not sure about my Nemesis, A Critical Dragon . . . But you never know!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy awesome! Maybe you can fight an epic battle and convince him! Anyways, have fun reading!
Loved this
Thank you!
Fascinating conversation Philip and Jake 👏. I hope this pushes Jake to finally read "The Blade Itself." lol
Thanks, David! I do think he'll enjoy First Law a ton. It will be cool to see his reaction no matter what!
Jake is fantastic, and I imagine he will love Abercrombie! Hope to hear his thoughts on Malazan as well! I’m halfway through the discussion and loving all this talk about Nepal. What a fantastic and unusual point of connection that you two share. Though I’ve never been, sometime I may share with you a brief point of connection I had with Kathmandu.
I look forward to hearing about this Kathmandu connection, Johanna! You should have seen our faces (pre-recording) when we figured out that the other had also married a Nepali. All the best!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy That might have been my favorite part of the discussion though this was wonderful from beginning to end. I got “carried” away listening and finished this morning. I would love to hear your thoughts on Vinland Saga if you get to that someday!
@@Johanna_reads Ha ha! We might be in danger of carrying these puns too far . . . Nah! 😁
Another great show, Philip. It was fun listening to the two of you.
Now, I want to jump on the "manga" topic that's being pushed on every booktuber. Even though I would love for you to try it out, I firmly believe you should be aware of some things before attempting a series. Target demographic, being one of them. Despite loving One Piece since I started it 25 years ago, it is a Shonen (mainly targeted towards male teenagers) and it is subject to the specific editing process of most Shonen manga, which might be tough to get into as a first time adult reader. Don't get me wrong, there are very good Shonen, One Piece being one of them with a rich worldbuilding and cast of characters, etc.
But I believe you'd get a better sense of the possibilities of this medium starting with a Seinen series (targeted for adults), which will be less strained by the harsh editing of a Shonen type. You've heard of such series as Vinland Saga, Berserk, Vagabond, Monster, 20th Century Boys, or even Akira which remains a classic. Seinen are also "shorter" series than the most famous Shonen (One Piece being 100+ volumes)... that helps.
And, I'll finish with this one (although it was targeted as a Shonen in 1982... but reads as a Seinen), I would strongly recommend something that never comes up but is a recognized masterpiece, an ecological fable set in a somewhat fantasy world : Nausicaa, by the brilliant Hayao Miyazaki. If you've watched any of his animated movies from Studio Ghibli (Princess Mononoke; Spirited Away; Totoro...) you'll know what a great story teller the man is, and Nausicaa is his baby in 7 volumes.
Wow! Thanks for the advice and the recommendation, Cyril - I appreciate both, and I’ll keep all that in mind when I venture into Manga. Cheers!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy My pleasure, Philip. It's a fantastic medium, but it comes with an editorial culture that can rub adult newcomers the wrong way.
Thank you for this conversation Phillip! I loved the cross cultural stories about Nepal and the Nepali Culture, as an Arab, I feel there's a few commonalities, especially with the hospitality part. Going to my grandmother's house every weekend, I'd never escape the dining table without eating seconds 'with loving insistence', and the parts where you both discuss the writing process and nuances that come with that. This has been a standout episode. I agree about the DIsney Star Wars, it lacked the heart of the original trilogy and seemed like a 'committee project'.
I’m so glad you enjoyed this one, Ghalib! We have so much to learn from people all over the world. Living in Nepal was certainly one of the most important and transformative experiences in my life. My best to you!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Many thanks! I think Vinland Saga will be very much in your wheel-house as a medievalist, I for one am very interested to hear your thoughts if and when you get around to it. Plus, I personally believe it is one of the best drawn manga. Berserk too, I think you might enjoy.
@@elcolmiloblanco I look forward to finding out!
I have some doubts about the research that suggests people enjoy books more when they know the ending. I suspect it might depend on the genre. When you are reading a mystery for the first time, you definitely don't want to know the ending, because part of the fun is to try and figure out "whodunit". However, I admit that the best mystery novels have excellent re-reading value, for example the Cormoran Strike series by the great J K Rowling. Highly recommended.
Great points, Diptanjan! Since great mystery novels have high rereading value, it follows that readers experience much more than just trying to figure out the “whodunnit” part. They must enjoy being immersed in the journey even when they know where it goes.
Great chat guys! We should start the «Nepali Dinner Trauma Survivor Support Group»😆 10 years on, and I still have Sisyphean nightmares of neverending dinner plates!
Ha ha! It’s a good thing the food is so tasty. Cheers, MacScarfield!
48:33 read that one!
Great chat!
Is it safe to begin reading Ian Esslemont's series while still working through Book of the Fallen?
You can read Knight of Knives anytime, Eugene. It’s set before Gardens of the Moon (except for the very first part of the prologue, which is much earlier than the rest of Gardens of the Moon. I recommend the rest of the books in publication order. In other words, read Return of the Crimson Guard after The Bonehunters, etc. Happy reading!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks!
Reading through a lot of quality modern Fantasy while writing my own manuscript now. Your own experience you shared with Jake is sounding like my own!
Very much enjoying the post-read video binges. Big fan of the more classroom feeling videos from yourself and AP! It's like I am sitting back in Undergrad but my professors are obsessed with Malazan. What is not to love?
@@eugenemurphy6037 Sounds awesome!
He's right about Donald Westlake(Richard Stark). There's a great story about a writing seminar Harlan Ellison was teaching. He was talking to a student after class, and to be a better writer he told him to put down Ulysses and go read Donald Westlake. Just great little crime fictions.
You would really like John Crowley I think. He leans more to magical realism than fantasy really, no battles an evil one. More using fantasy to explore more personal stories.
That’s a great story, and Crowley sounds interesting too - thanks, Matt!
Love the thumbnail
Thanks, Mike! I might have chuckled while making it . . .
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy ha great. I wanted to be sure someone else acknowledged it!
Man, seeing the thumbnail my brain immediately thought this is another zoom meme haha
Ha ha! Not quite, but I’ve always wanted to be a Man Carrying Thing Zoom meme. 😁
I understand his hesitation tho, I felt the same way about dune and realized that I needed to just drive in.
I'm firmly on the record as loving the latest Dune movie. I didn't get a chance to mention that, but perhaps I'll have another chance to chat with Jake about it.
At the beginning of the video it may seem that this is another zoom call skit
Ha ha! That would have been fun too!
I'm pretty sure Jake is just young Philip from a different timeline
Ha ha! Except he somehow learned to be actually funny!
Man Carrying Philip
It was kind of Jake to carry me!
Man Carrying Man
Ha ha! Exactly!
Man carrying Phillip
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Nice
Thanks!
If Jake would like to read a book of mostly dialogue and nothing else, he should try William Gaddis's JR.
Sounds intriguing!
A....at this point I can't tell if it's a real zoom call or a skit lol
But seriously, it's very interesting to listen an intellectual talk about writing!
Ha ha! I’m glad you found it interesting!
I think it would be near impossible for him not to like Abercrombie. To the extent that if he didn't like it he looked up and realized it wasn't an Abercrombie book he was reading.
I think it's as close to inevitable as possible, but let's see!
Let me tell you that I share your opinion about Joe Abercrombie's humor. But the best to me, is that his characters are very complex. I mean, they aren't perfect. For instance the inquisitor Sand Dan Glokta, who is conceited and even arrogant. But on the other hand, He's honest and in his own way, He has a sense of honor.
I am very much enjoying the discussion, and I'm learning too much. Many thanks to share.
I’m happy you’re enjoying the chat, Ivan, and I completely agree about the complexity of Abercrombie’s characters!
If you stick with One Piece I think you'll love it. It's worth pointing out that One Piece has a digitally-colored manga that makes it far easier to take in IMO - I can't normally deal with the black and white nature of manga. Oda IMO belongs in the conversation of best fantasy author right up there with Tolkien, Jordan, Erikson, Hobb, etc.
Cool! I’m curious to see how I find it. There’s no doubt that it resonates with many people.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy The world building in particular is genius. It's as if you made a galaxy an ocean, and planets islands. The world constantly feels new every time you get to a new island, as after a certain point the islands have their own cultural and racial divides, cultures, political conflicts, geography, etc etc. Just constantly keeps things feeling fresh.
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Thanks, Diego!
First!!
There's something deeply satisfying about leaving the first comment, I think. Sort of like walking through freshly fallen snow. Cheers, Alexander!
Don't say anything is based on The Magnificent Seven - The Magnificent Seven is just a rip off of The Seven Samurai. Likewise, A Fistful of Dollars is a ripoff of Yojimbo, etc. Western films love to rip off Akira Kurosawa.
Very true about The Seven Samurai being the wellspring. King, of course, gave overt nods to The Magnificent Seven, but I’m sure he’s aware it was inspired by The Seven Samurai. Cheers!