The Sidemen aren't just a content creation channel, they have a lot of business attached to that name, so my take on the privating and being silent isn't an admission of guilt - it's more likely a move to protect business partnerships. If they support him, and it turns out he did, shareholders will pull out so fast. If they condemn him and he didn't - they lose all respect from their fans. Privating the videos is most likely an effort to reduce the amount of hate that would be coming their way in the meantime.
Rape is extremely hard to prove in court. In reality majority of sexual assulters walk free. 90% of sexual assult cases dont see court. If someone is being charged in criminal court, there is generally A LOT of evidence.
@@One10ab that is such an odd, unrealistic thing to say. while that does happen, it is NOT common. it is FAR MORE common for a man to commit rape and never be held legally accountable. stop defending rapists!!!
that guy saying she went with him to his hotel and that she should expect that kind of thing is really fucking bad. Im sorry, but consent can be revoked at any time. even if she said yes at first she is able to revoke and stop any sexual contact as she pleases. Same goes for anyone else. And from what we know, theres likely footage of some of the stuff filly is accused of.
tbh if you go to a place expecting sex, then get the aforementioned sex, then claim sexual assault after, then I think it's fair to assume that she might be after a lawsuit
It's not just an "accusation". You can't take someone's passport based on an "accusation". There's already enough evidence to imprison him within Australia. The court case is to now see if there's enough evidence to imprison him within an Australian prison.
They have circumstantial evidence but no hard proof. There is evidence they went into his hotel room together and there is prove they had intercourse. She has a few hematomas which can be caused by rough intercourse or SA. There is no evidence though that she was actually SAd
The burden of proof for charging someone is much, much lower than for proving the accusation. An accusation with any circumstantial evidence is enough. If the case is a total dud it will get dismissed before it goes to trial. If it's equivocal it will go to trial. If the evidence is indisputable it will probably end in a guilty plea but can still go to trial.
@@inko002i have seen many reports of video evidence, why didn't you mention that? You are light on facts, but are trying to give the appearance of knowing what's up. Weird science
There are LITERALLY more then 10000 cases where people get charged without evidence I mean look at Tory…. It’s clear for EVERYONE that Kelsey shot the gun, he didn’t even had gun residue on himself but he still is charged 👀
Not you, but everyone in this video makes me pretty mad. Especially that guy talking about the girl voluntarily going to the hotel room. She could have been too intoxicated to consent. She could have consented at first and when filly started choking her she revoked consent. Maybe she passed out and there was no chance to consent to the following acts. I’m not saying hang the man, but SA is not a joke. I don’t think the Australian justice system would push the case further if they didn’t have at least some evidence from the female (ra pe kit, CCTV, text messages, etc.). The UK wouldn’t have extradited him without evidence.
Just as you make up excuses of her could have been intoxicated.... you completly IGNORE that the exact same excuses can then be used for a man. Not only women can be too intoxicated, ken can also be intoxicated to loose ability to interpret and do good judgement calls... just like women. Its not only women. Usually these type of cases are females who next morning have morningregrets of their actions. Some few are actuall rapes. But its nit only women who can be intoxicated. So stop the dumb argument that females get a pass of responsebilities because she was intoxicated. Because such types of intoxications applies just as much to men. Men almost never complain next day if they did dumb things. They own up to it and move on. Maybe gets laughed at by their friends for sleeping with that "ugly" chick or something like that. Lesson: Noone should drink alcohol. So much better things would been without recreational alcohol.
Yes you're right, the Australian justice system never charges people unless they're 100% sure they've committed the crime. 100% of criminal charges end in a conviction. Or are you just dense?
He probably did do it only around 2% of rape cases result in a conviction which means that the police had substantial evidence for grounds to convict him
FullStop Australia A registered Charity to help SA victims While these statistics are alarming, Full Stop Australia says it still does not paint the full picture. “We know that only 13% of women sexually assaulted report it to police. And just 1.5% of sexual assaults result in a conviction. Sexual, domestic, and family violence is a major health and welfare issue and an urgent national priority. It affects people of all ages, gender identities and from all backgrounds,” said Hayley Foster, CEO of Full Stop Australia.
This is slander. You dont know anything. You could also consider the fact he is a celebrity meaning he is more likely than not to be accused when he is innocent too.
Bruh in one Beta Squad video where he has to pick a date at the end his entire line of questioning was disgusting, hyper sexual and demeaning, embarrassing and bizarre. This is not even surprising news.
Real he always rubbed me the wrong way, the dude is just constantly being hyper sexual, absolute freak behaviour, you should be able to literally just chat to another women without making hip thrust jokes, that freaky tongue thing he does, ect ect, odd bloke
The third guy speaking on Filly said exactly the vibe I’ve always had from him. He’s always struck me as slippery and arrogant even an evil feeling I get from him I can’t explain it but we’ll see how it pans out.
Not that I know Filly, but from what I’ve seen in videos, Filly isn’t a nice person. He is nice with his friends, but he easily gets emotional and can’t control his emotions. Which includes getting mad as they cannot control their emotions.
That's not how the Australian justice system works. We don't treat it as reality TV so you won't see any evidence personally unless it is necessary for gaining information from the public. He was extradited 5000km, the prosecution has images of "something no person would consent to" and bodily evidence as well as CCTV evidence. The magistrate accordingly gave him $100k cash bail, daily reporting, taken away his passport, and revoked social media privileges. That may be common elsewhere, but I've been involved in the West Australian justice systems for years and never ever seen bail conditions so strict. There is no lawsuit (which aren't common here) and if she was in it for money she'd sue first because if he is found not guilty (if she was lying) then she isn't getting a cent. Too many people hear about false accusations but remember only a very small percent are false and the facts of the case we have access to lean heavily towards guilt. People also need to stop being so quick to defend an accused diddler.
04:25 why is it more crazy assuming he did it than assuming she is lying? By saying we cant assume he has done it you are directly implying she is lying. I know innocent until proven guilty, but doesnt mean go out and publicly defend him. With these things there is no middle ground there is only guilty or not guilty which means by saying its too early to say hes guilty it directly implies that the victim is lying. Victim blaming is arguably worse because it discourages other victims or future victims of speaking out.
These men only apply this to R, they don't ever apply this attitude to any other crime. They don't know the difference between 'Couldn't prove beyond reasonable doubt' and 'He didn't do it'
it is unfortunate, but R can be a very difficult crime to prove vs others. in for example a murder case, evidence can be very damning. if u can connect a gun to a body, and then find dna on the gun and/or the body, then u have a very solid case. In narco cases, u get caught with possession and social media chats, thats a solid case to take down a drug dealer. in R cases, its almost always word vs word... unless u got audio or video or a witness, the case is impossible to prove
I’m side eyeing his friends to be honest. If he was my friend, I’ve made money with him, etc. I’d fly to Australia immediately to speak to him. If he was allegedly a stand up guy to his friends then give him the benefit of the doubt and reach out to him. Just my thought. If I thought in my friendship he was an asshole then we probably would have not been friends anymore.
I understand your point. However, they have a lot to lose if he is found guilty. He's probably agreed for them to stay away due to the bad publicity. He probably speaks with them. If he's guilty, I hope he is found guilty. However, if not, she should be locked up.
These guys got brands to protect, associating with an alleged rapist is not a good look. I’m sure his closer boys have got into contact somehow in private
@@mmsmith3341 so it’s dumb to fly to another country to check on a friend who is accused of a crime, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? He knows of no one there. He’s a foreigner, good to know where your loyalty and morals lie. You guys have found him guilty already. So you’re dumb. The can indeed speak to him, they are not a jury where it’s confidential. It’s his choice if he wants to disclose anything. Are y’all just that ignorant to how the law works? 🙄
Clickbait man , why would you put a thumbnail with his friends and such a title? Whether he did it or not, you're capitalising on her or his misery, shame on you .
The Sidemen move on their video is completely business. They'd have definitely said something if they knew something, but them not saying anything is proof they don't know. Pieface said it best 4:55
The shocking thing about that is its more than likely to happen in comparison to the men who actually do commit the crime. You must understand the rarity of women lying about rape you find more don't report because of how victims are treated within the system the authorities that are supposedly designed "to protect us" yet the amount of cases that go unprosecuted is disgusting...
Rape destroys adults lives and children's yet my point to it is these women that say they have been raped or assaulted and it's clear there just lying for money or other bad intentions should go to jail for a long time it's not fair to the people telling the truth having filthy liers taking away there justice because the system will make it hard for these things to go through court without getting thrown out because of liers.
@@Lucy-d4t but your comment is really inappropriate in this context. the woman he raped is a real person who had to experience that. and you are commenting about women lying about being raped? there is a time and a place.
I don’t like videos with him in it because I think he’s a creep and don’t like how he treats women in videos. He’s too thirsty and desperate. He also doesn’t seem like a nice person compared to other guys he works with. I hope he’s innocent but I am not surprised.
@@Nothigh. are you 12 years old? Because his predator BS worked? Because he was a young rich dude who could manipulate his way into most siutationships and riddle his was out of past allegations.. and finally he met a woman who was actually raised by a father, who wasn't going to accept an NDA with a settlement..
@@Nothigh.because in order to keep him in an Australian prison he has to be proven guilty without a reasonable doubt which is REALLY fucking hard to prove in cases of rape. Most rape victims wouldn’t be able to provide that kind of evidence. The fact that he was charged means that there enough to prove that he’s guilty. The woman had serious bruises and was choked several times after their encounter, it’s not just a case of her being passed out and taken advantage of. He violently raped her.
nah yk whats crazy as soon as someone hears somthing u did everyone turns on you without knowing the true story. even if filly did or did not he lost everything by one click of a button.
okay well if someone I knew/was close to was accused of r* someone I would also do the same until everything is either cleared off, or stay away from them if they are found guilty?
People saying she’s doing it for attention and money are so completely wrong. If she’s doing it for attention, what’s her name? Also it’s the state that’s charging him and you can’t sue people in Australia.
The thing with SA & R it is that it’s difficult to find evidence for it. How do you prove something like this happened without cameras. That’s why lots of people get away with this stuff. That’s why I think you should be a bit more biased towards the victim
To say its just an allegation at this point is crazy, They would not extradite him without solid evidence, she couldnt sue him even if found guilty as its the state whos issued this
Bro I know a lot of innocent man getting arrested and even punished because of false claims by girls and ultimately getting proven innocent after suffering in jail
She went to his hotel room! So DNA is 0 credibility in such a case. To be anywhere credible it should be: Scratch marks on his body, ripped clothes (which is NOT in her posession for ability to been tempered with evidence), and maybe a few bruisings on HIM from her "trying" to get away. That would show a real ATTEMPT at getting away. If she claims he drugged her? Then avudence of videocamera of him rufuing her drink, or staff testimonys of drinks at the room and/or maids testimonies of what they found in the room should be an absolute bare minimum to support such claim. So far the only thing we know is her accusations. 0 evidence. And we know she went to his HOTEL bedroom WITH filly.
Bunch of horrible friends. My boi who ive known since middle school was in a similar predicament in our senior year of HS. And the supposed accusation and evidence was looking dark for him. Yet the bois stuck with him and we kept pleading for him looking for alibies and proper witnesses and even having a lawyer friend ready to defend him in court. Turned out the accusers were lying out their asses using each other as false witnesses.
he's only close with Chunkz in Beta Squad. He even called Darkest mid in his vids, and gets easily mad with jokes. Just because your friend is innocent, doesn't mean Filly is as well. watch Beta Squad's vid where they have Filly needed to pick a date in the end and hear for yourself how his entire questions with all the girls are ALL very sexual and overly disgusting.
@@fl-g15ramirezscullylou87 You proved my point. All his supposed friends are all fake and all cut ties with him as soon as he got in trouble. All so they dont lose out on revenue. Even chunkz kept quiet. Shows you how shallow these influencers are. Why entertainment will end as we know it is because no one is real. And it's philly's fault for not making any real friends to begin with.
It wasn't a shock to his friends, even the first dude you showed was super sus and definitely knew more, even though he says otherwise. Because a real friend who randomly gets accused of such a thing, even if there's a big chance it's true, would be in denial and support his friend until proven guilty for real, and say that his friend is definitely not a rper
Your claim that famous people have been accused of rape/sexual assault and the allegations were proven to be wrong IS NOT TRUE. There was just not enough evidence in the structure of our current legal systems to be proven right. Please be careful about the exact words you are using. The distinction is very important. Rape is very hard to prove in our current flawed legal systems, it doesn’t mean that the allegations were proven to be wrong.
My honest/humble opinion:....... I genuinely don't care. Preferably he's innocent and no women were hurt, But, no smoke without fire so if he did do what he's accused of then I hope they make an example out of him and he gets a fat prison sentence and then the appropriate treatment in whatever facility he goes to. Overall though.....I'm really not bothered and I can't feel any sympathy for anyone who's 1 - rich and 2 - put themselves in that predicament.
Some of you need to chill out until theres solid evidence. Like jeez, I know what he was accused of is bad, but its just allegations. Wait a bit more 😒
An old saying from my childhood springs to mind..... "pressure den enit bruv". If you put yourself around that type of people and you have different women ciming back to your room with you then you shouldn't really be surprised if/when stuff like that happens. (Pretty simple obvious stuff really tbh)
I'm glad I'm not famous. Imagine having such an intense experience that's super rough (providing you're into it) and then finding out she's flipping on you. I'd be heart broken, and probably never lay with a woman ever again! I think it's odd that she knew who he was, knowing he's famous, and accepted an invitation TO HIS ROOM.. That means ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY. You're going to have sex. And if they had extremely rough sex (which is a lot more common than you may think) than it's going to look TERRIBLE for him. I've been with women who like it rough, and there's other women who want it even rougher and keep asking for more - and those women end up all kinds of fucked up physically. Anywhere from Struggling to walk, to bruises lasting a very long time, to vaginal bleeding, and so on.. I'm not defending him. But I'm trying to explain that there is a possibility where this is something that could've happened, and this girl decided to class it as R because she had all the ammunition to do so to get some money out of him or the situation to either pay for her education, a new car, a house or whatever. If it's found out that she lied, I hope she goes to prison. If he is found guilty, I hope he rots in prison and receives the same punishment he dished out on her.
No lie every time when I used to see like the little short videos to the streams like when you streaming through UA-cam and so on I always had a feeling about that guy he's a little bit too strange
Ched Evan’s got 6 year didn’t do 6 month a year after release they found him not guilty bent as fuck if u ask me we live in the day n age that when a woman gets mad cuz u don’t do what they want we go prison guilty or not snm
Now a days women can just say such things and the guy can be arrested, if he is found not guilty the women wont get sued......this is the justice system, lets just hope he didnt do it
That's just not true. You cannot be CHARGED without evidence. If there wasn't enough evidence the UK wouldn't have extradited him to Australia, nor would it have been possible for Australia to take away his passport. That lad is guilty.
@@Weeklythrower58 And what does that have to do with this case where there is proof? Even so, only 6% of cases are estimated to be false accusations. Of course false accusations are bad and have an impact, but having gone through actual sexual assault and sexual trauma is more likely than having lied. Actually, men are more likely to be raped by another man than to be falsely accused by a woman. So believe victims. I cannot continue this conversation calmly as I am a survivor of multiple sexual offenses against me and I can't fight with people assuming that all claims are made up, so you have a good day I gotta take care of myself.
@@ginnundsoIf what you're saying is correct, then 100% of charges should end in a criminal conviction. Since to you said "you can't be charged without evidence, he is guilty.", so why doesn't everyone who gets charged end up getting convicted? Maybe... Because the evidence police initially have is found out to be inaccurate or unreliable? Maybe because... People don't tell the truth?
Filly i thought he was a comedian not a rapper cause I've never heard his music 🎶 But Hs is only talking on it so he can gloat cause he has fallen off just like that lad who eats rost potatoes 🥔 without chewing
not to defend filly.. but men.. do scrap a written contract before doing sxual activities, especially the person you will be engaging is new person to you.. we doesnt know yet the extend of these allegation and people already putting blame here and there, contract termination and so forth.. SA is easy now, especially if you are a men of statue.. proven or not, this will tainted someone life
Whats crazy is non of his friends are getting involved, fair enough. But not one of his friends has said, Aint no way.. hes not capable, hes not the kind of guy.
My thing is that man is 29 years old. To my knowledge never been accused of anything before. SA is not something people just pick up at 29 ya know what I mean. Those tendencies happen earlier on. He may not be the most likable person to some guys but I’ve never seen him be disrespectful to women in videos. I’ve seen him down talk himself compared to women in videos. He just doesn’t give me that vibe. He may be cocky but a lot of personalities are. I don’t know him personally but I never looked at Jo m and thought hmmmm he seems sus. Furthermore, I do not care who you are or what you thought was going to happen, if you WILLINGLY go back to a man’s hotel room EXPECT some cheek clapping. That’s just common sense. These ladies need to stop trying to be friendly with these celebrities thinking they just wana talk and play video games. No.
You can absolutely start SA people at any age without any indication before. You can also have been doing it without anyone reporting it before for a lot of different reasons. How he is in videos doesn't really matter. A lot of charming and loveable people are complete assholes in disguise. A lot of people you might think highly of can be doing horrendous things behind closed doors. You can go in with the expectation of a certain kind of sex and be met with something totally different, and if you don't consent to that then it's rape. Let's say you agree to have regular sex with someone and then they start slapping you around, something you don't want to, and you say no and want to stop having sex and the other person doesn't stop then it's rape. Rape doesn't just mean that you didn't agree to have sex, it can also be that you don't want to anymore for whatever reason.
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The Sidemen aren't just a content creation channel, they have a lot of business attached to that name, so my take on the privating and being silent isn't an admission of guilt - it's more likely a move to protect business partnerships. If they support him, and it turns out he did, shareholders will pull out so fast. If they condemn him and he didn't - they lose all respect from their fans. Privating the videos is most likely an effort to reduce the amount of hate that would be coming their way in the meantime.
Rape is extremely hard to prove in court. In reality majority of sexual assulters walk free. 90% of sexual assult cases dont see court. If someone is being charged in criminal court, there is generally A LOT of evidence.
Not true, most don't see court because they drop the charges. It could've just been rough intercourse.
Not true. There have been way too many men falsely accused of rape and sentenced and imprisoned despite being innocent
Literally there hasn't been... All discourse and studies show we should believe victims and that men get away with sa more often than not @@One10ab
@@One10ab that is such an odd, unrealistic thing to say. while that does happen, it is NOT common. it is FAR MORE common for a man to commit rape and never be held legally accountable. stop defending rapists!!!
@@MinotaurvsCyclops “rough intercourse” you are actually deluded and a weirdo. seriously wtf.
that guy saying she went with him to his hotel and that she should expect that kind of thing is really fucking bad. Im sorry, but consent can be revoked at any time. even if she said yes at first she is able to revoke and stop any sexual contact as she pleases. Same goes for anyone else. And from what we know, theres likely footage of some of the stuff filly is accused of.
“CONSENT CAN BE REVOKED AT ANYTIME” thank you for saying this … if it was their mother, daughter, niece, etc . Itd be a different tune..
Absolutely! To be able to change your mind is basic human rights!!
@@jademadeit3735
Incorrect
@@boostbaa2882 lets have a civil conversation. care to elaborate?
tbh if you go to a place expecting sex, then get the aforementioned sex, then claim sexual assault after, then I think it's fair to assume that she might be after a lawsuit
It's not just an "accusation". You can't take someone's passport based on an "accusation". There's already enough evidence to imprison him within Australia. The court case is to now see if there's enough evidence to imprison him within an Australian prison.
The woman who reported him is not Emma or Ella does not even start with an e she’s a university student who is young and had been taken advantage of
They have circumstantial evidence but no hard proof. There is evidence they went into his hotel room together and there is prove they had intercourse. She has a few hematomas which can be caused by rough intercourse or SA. There is no evidence though that she was actually SAd
The burden of proof for charging someone is much, much lower than for proving the accusation. An accusation with any circumstantial evidence is enough. If the case is a total dud it will get dismissed before it goes to trial. If it's equivocal it will go to trial. If the evidence is indisputable it will probably end in a guilty plea but can still go to trial.
@@inko002i have seen many reports of video evidence, why didn't you mention that? You are light on facts, but are trying to give the appearance of knowing what's up. Weird science
@@daftgowk1 I will reply to this in December and tell u “I told u so ..”
you dont get CHARGED without evidence
Not necessarily
True in most cases, however, the evidence is almost always "circumstantial". You are talking out of your ass with no knowledge of anything
not true now days
You literally do though idk where you’ve been in your life but it’s easy to get charged with just one word over the other
There are LITERALLY more then 10000 cases where people get charged without evidence
I mean look at Tory….
It’s clear for EVERYONE that Kelsey shot the gun, he didn’t even had gun residue on himself but he still is charged 👀
The way the second guy talked about potential rape charges is genuinely disgusting.
I lost brain cells listening to these guys
They're mostly thick bellends. I'd be surprised if they've got a C grade GCSE between the lot of them😂. Absolute cockwombling smegbuckets.
you dont have any.
@@not_itr you're too young to understand do your homework
@@darktournament wtf r u?? why does it matter?
@@darktournament judging people off profile pictures mate ur a madman
She’s a university student and not a s worker we don’t know her name it’s not Emma or Ella and ppl need to stop thinking they know cuz they don’t
Great point. Everyone needs to chill until there is more evidence
Bruh show us the source or stop the 🧢
its been confimred that her name is emma on multiple articles
You believe everything on an article 😂😂@@deepsearcher
who said university students can't be ***ers
I pray for anyone who suffered SA, God bless you!
Not you, but everyone in this video makes me pretty mad. Especially that guy talking about the girl voluntarily going to the hotel room. She could have been too intoxicated to consent. She could have consented at first and when filly started choking her she revoked consent. Maybe she passed out and there was no chance to consent to the following acts.
I’m not saying hang the man, but SA is not a joke. I don’t think the Australian justice system would push the case further if they didn’t have at least some evidence from the female (ra pe kit, CCTV, text messages, etc.). The UK wouldn’t have extradited him without evidence.
Just as you make up excuses of her could have been intoxicated.... you completly IGNORE that the exact same excuses can then be used for a man.
Not only women can be too intoxicated, ken can also be intoxicated to loose ability to interpret and do good judgement calls... just like women.
Its not only women.
Usually these type of cases are females who next morning have morningregrets of their actions.
Some few are actuall rapes.
But its nit only women who can be intoxicated.
So stop the dumb argument that females get a pass of responsebilities because she was intoxicated. Because such types of intoxications applies just as much to men.
Men almost never complain next day if they did dumb things. They own up to it and move on. Maybe gets laughed at by their friends for sleeping with that "ugly" chick or something like that.
Lesson:
Noone should drink alcohol.
So much better things would been without recreational alcohol.
Yes you're right, the Australian justice system never charges people unless they're 100% sure they've committed the crime. 100% of criminal charges end in a conviction. Or are you just dense?
if you cant control yourself on drinks dont drink. its irresponsible
simple as that.
the other points are valid though, i just want to see evidence
diddy do it diddy not
😭😭
This is such an underrated comment
Damn right he diddy it
Maybe he diddy maybe he diddyn’t
@@cooking4redno
He probably did do it only around 2% of rape cases result in a conviction which means that the police had substantial evidence for grounds to convict him
Where you pulling your facts from?Wikipedia?
@@FL1NCH_Y fullstop.org.au/uploads/main/PDFs/Media/November-23-2021-Media-Release-Launch-of-Full-Stop-Australia.pdf
FullStop Australia A registered Charity to help SA victims
While these statistics are alarming, Full Stop Australia says it still does not paint the full picture.
“We know that only 13% of women sexually assaulted report it to police. And just 1.5% of sexual
assaults result in a conviction. Sexual, domestic, and family violence is a major health and welfare
issue and an urgent national priority. It affects people of all ages, gender identities and from all
backgrounds,” said Hayley Foster, CEO of Full Stop Australia.
@@shuaib2281how many of those convicted are didn't actually commit the crime too? So many stories of people's lives being ruined by false allegations
This is slander. You dont know anything. You could also consider the fact he is a celebrity meaning he is more likely than not to be accused when he is innocent too.
Philly was an entertaining dude but idk if anyone else noticed or felt there was just something off about him yk?
Fr though, watching him interact with women on dating videos was so uncomfortable, like he's so toxic when it comes to girls
A million per cent.
Bruh in one Beta Squad video where he has to pick a date at the end his entire line of questioning was disgusting, hyper sexual and demeaning, embarrassing and bizarre. This is not even surprising news.
Which?
@ “blind dating girls based on outfits feat Filly”.
It’s utterly gross, cringe, and the guy acts like a hyper sexual virgin.
@@Ariel1039 Same profile pic :D
Real he always rubbed me the wrong way, the dude is just constantly being hyper sexual, absolute freak behaviour, you should be able to literally just chat to another women without making hip thrust jokes, that freaky tongue thing he does, ect ect, odd bloke
I agree I think that the whole beta squad has been weird and if he did they DEFINITELY knew.
The third guy speaking on Filly said exactly the vibe I’ve always had from him. He’s always struck me as slippery and arrogant even an evil feeling I get from him I can’t explain it but we’ll see how it pans out.
3:43 that’s definitely true like both hp and darkest have mentioned a time were filly was really rude to them
Not that I know Filly, but from what I’ve seen in videos, Filly isn’t a nice person.
He is nice with his friends, but he easily gets emotional and can’t control his emotions. Which includes getting mad as they cannot control their emotions.
People love praying on peoples downfalls just focus on your lives… we need more facts and evidence.
Exactly. Lets not come to conclusion with anything, until there is any legal evidence
That's not how the Australian justice system works. We don't treat it as reality TV so you won't see any evidence personally unless it is necessary for gaining information from the public.
He was extradited 5000km, the prosecution has images of "something no person would consent to" and bodily evidence as well as CCTV evidence. The magistrate accordingly gave him $100k cash bail, daily reporting, taken away his passport, and revoked social media privileges. That may be common elsewhere, but I've been involved in the West Australian justice systems for years and never ever seen bail conditions so strict.
There is no lawsuit (which aren't common here) and if she was in it for money she'd sue first because if he is found not guilty (if she was lying) then she isn't getting a cent. Too many people hear about false accusations but remember only a very small percent are false and the facts of the case we have access to lean heavily towards guilt. People also need to stop being so quick to defend an accused diddler.
@@samuelcroll344 okay serious question here. Assuming there was no video evidence and all, the woman's word will still be taken as evidence correct?
Yeah, F this dude. He's annoying.
@@samuelcroll344not defending him. But from what I gather you are saying the Australian system isn’t “innocent until proven guilty?”
04:25 why is it more crazy assuming he did it than assuming she is lying?
By saying we cant assume he has done it you are directly implying she is lying. I know innocent until proven guilty, but doesnt mean go out and publicly defend him. With these things there is no middle ground there is only guilty or not guilty which means by saying its too early to say hes guilty it directly implies that the victim is lying. Victim blaming is arguably worse because it discourages other victims or future victims of speaking out.
Innocent till proven guilty, if the system was the other way round, the world is fucked
@koelkast4954 nah in crimes like r*** or dv it's always the opposite for me.
@@BlessO-f8z For you??
Sorry I can't anymore with these cheap behaviours from all these wanna be w
@@TS-cf9zs Cool bro
These men only apply this to R, they don't ever apply this attitude to any other crime. They don't know the difference between 'Couldn't prove beyond reasonable doubt' and 'He didn't do it'
The fact that so many r*** get free is the shit out of me
it is unfortunate, but R can be a very difficult crime to prove vs others. in for example a murder case, evidence can be very damning. if u can connect a gun to a body, and then find dna on the gun and/or the body, then u have a very solid case. In narco cases, u get caught with possession and social media chats, thats a solid case to take down a drug dealer.
in R cases, its almost always word vs word... unless u got audio or video or a witness, the case is impossible to prove
@@kevan338 Thank you captain obvious
@@tech10222 Then why you complaining lmao cry about it
@@chinmarin380 Congratulations you’ve missed the point entirely.
I’m side eyeing his friends to be honest. If he was my friend, I’ve made money with him, etc. I’d fly to Australia immediately to speak to him. If he was allegedly a stand up guy to his friends then give him the benefit of the doubt and reach out to him. Just my thought. If I thought in my friendship he was an asshole then we probably would have not been friends anymore.
I understand your point. However, they have a lot to lose if he is found guilty. He's probably agreed for them to stay away due to the bad publicity. He probably speaks with them. If he's guilty, I hope he is found guilty. However, if not, she should be locked up.
These guys got brands to protect, associating with an alleged rapist is not a good look. I’m sure his closer boys have got into contact somehow in private
Your dumb they can't speak to him about the case. They all have money to protect and why get yourself cancelled for talking to him.
haha if its real they just deffo know.
@@mmsmith3341 so it’s dumb to fly to another country to check on a friend who is accused of a crime, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? He knows of no one there. He’s a foreigner, good to know where your loyalty and morals lie. You guys have found him guilty already. So you’re dumb. The can indeed speak to him, they are not a jury where it’s confidential. It’s his choice if he wants to disclose anything. Are y’all just that ignorant to how the law works? 🙄
the sidemen aint even close with Filly like that
Clickbait man , why would you put a thumbnail with his friends and such a title? Whether he did it or not, you're capitalising on her or his misery, shame on you .
because its a video compilation of all his friend’s replies? are you slow?
@@erchin6322 Chunkz is like his best friend and he wasn't in there, ngl I wanted to hear his opinion the most.
The first dude I don’t think I understood a single thing he said
The Sidemen move on their video is completely business. They'd have definitely said something if they knew something, but them not saying anything is proof they don't know.
Pieface said it best 4:55
women that lie about sexual assault or rape should be jailed no remorse,
This has nothing to do with this though. You can't have your passport taken away without hard solid evidence. You cant be CHARHED without evidence.
The shocking thing about that is its more than likely to happen in comparison to the men who actually do commit the crime. You must understand the rarity of women lying about rape you find more don't report because of how victims are treated within the system the authorities that are supposedly designed "to protect us" yet the amount of cases that go unprosecuted is disgusting...
Rape destroys adults lives and children's yet my point to it is these women that say they have been raped or assaulted and it's clear there just lying for money or other bad intentions should go to jail for a long time it's not fair to the people telling the truth having filthy liers taking away there justice because the system will make it hard for these things to go through court without getting thrown out because of liers.
@@Destini_VThen why don't 100% of charges end in a criminal conviction?
@@Lucy-d4t but your comment is really inappropriate in this context. the woman he raped is a real person who had to experience that. and you are commenting about women lying about being raped? there is a time and a place.
Diddy do it? 4:29
She knows
I don’t like videos with him in it because I think he’s a creep and don’t like how he treats women in videos. He’s too thirsty and desperate. He also doesn’t seem like a nice person compared to other guys he works with.
I hope he’s innocent but I am not surprised.
Yea Duke Dennis ain’t ever that “thirsty and desperate”.
Be like Duke.
@@Aerochalklatezip it up when u done
Yeah agree I always liked chunkz but never liked him.
@@Aerochalklateya done riding bro?
Chunkz already commented on his insta 7 days ago
Oh really
Was it fun clickbaiting us
nothing about this shocked me.. you could always see it in his eyes the way he looks at women and approaches them.. predator vibes from day 1
I wouldn't say predator vibes but his eyes has dis look uk..like a don't care look
Then why isn’t he jailed till now? Looool
@@Nothigh. are you 12 years old? Because his predator BS worked? Because he was a young rich dude who could manipulate his way into most siutationships and riddle his was out of past allegations.. and finally he met a woman who was actually raised by a father, who wasn't going to accept an NDA with a settlement..
@@Nothigh.because in order to keep him in an Australian prison he has to be proven guilty without a reasonable doubt which is REALLY fucking hard to prove in cases of rape. Most rape victims wouldn’t be able to provide that kind of evidence. The fact that he was charged means that there enough to prove that he’s guilty. The woman had serious bruises and was choked several times after their encounter, it’s not just a case of her being passed out and taken advantage of. He violently raped her.
here we go, mystic man thinking he knows it all
Its just crazy to me that this is even happening im shocked
First couple seconds I thought bugzy was speaking on it💀💀💀
🤣
Quality video, how do you not have more subscribers?!
Very good video best one on the topic so far!!
Appreciate ya!
Man Like Isaac had the best response
L video, L creator, i pray our daughters and sisters will be safe from the likes of you and filly🙏🏽
For real
😂 okay
Wtf
You’ll get some bro🙏💀
@HamzOnHots Or maybe he's an actually decent human being and isn't defending a rapist or victim blaming
nah yk whats crazy as soon as someone hears somthing u did everyone turns on you without knowing the true story. even if filly did or did not he lost everything by one click of a button.
okay well if someone I knew/was close to was accused of r* someone I would also do the same until everything is either cleared off, or stay away from them if they are found guilty?
It’s different if she just accused him. Anyone can accuse someone. For him to get charged there had to be enough evidence against him.
he lost everything by RAPING a woman. you weirdo!!!!!
That ranger mananged to not say anything while talking for like 5 minutes lol
People saying she’s doing it for attention and money are so completely wrong. If she’s doing it for attention, what’s her name? Also it’s the state that’s charging him and you can’t sue people in Australia.
Yes you can
The thing with SA & R it is that it’s difficult to find evidence for it. How do you prove something like this happened without cameras. That’s why lots of people get away with this stuff. That’s why I think you should be a bit more biased towards the victim
It’s not difficult. If she got a rape kit done at the hospital than he’s done.
Not at all lol in the hospital they can prove it in like 2 hours
Goes to the hotel with him then reports him to the police
It’s a scam lol
Not being “a nice guy” doesn’t mean you are guilty of r_pe
Yeah and they wait until these allegations are out to say something like…
wasn't there an update that he didnt do it?
To say its just an allegation at this point is crazy, They would not extradite him without solid evidence, she couldnt sue him even if found guilty as its the state whos issued this
Wrong.
Bro I know a lot of innocent man getting arrested and even punished because of false claims by girls and ultimately getting proven innocent after suffering in jail
idk about rapper but youtuber yh definitely😭😭😭
bro got clocked doing 160 in perth💀 he needs to get locked up, many lives in danger
Not a nice person dont mean violent sex pest in this situation people need to be precise you can be an asshole and not violent at the same time
diddy and filly are suspiciously close names just saying
His name is Felipe
@Live_LaZa its Andrés Felipe Valencia Barrientos but i ment his youtube name
Wouldn’t keep young feely if there’s no evidence
Funny how Connor got away with it who actually did it everyone loves him again
The ginger, open and honest 😂😂😂😂
If he’s being charged for 4 counts of penetration then they should find his DNA if he did actually do it.
She went to his hotel room! So DNA is 0 credibility in such a case.
To be anywhere credible it should be:
Scratch marks on his body, ripped clothes (which is NOT in her posession for ability to been tempered with evidence), and maybe a few bruisings on HIM from her "trying" to get away.
That would show a real ATTEMPT at getting away.
If she claims he drugged her? Then avudence of videocamera of him rufuing her drink, or staff testimonys of drinks at the room and/or maids testimonies of what they found in the room should be an absolute bare minimum to support such claim.
So far the only thing we know is her accusations. 0 evidence.
And we know she went to his HOTEL bedroom WITH filly.
P Filly 😭🙏🙏
What’s the music used in the background? very relaxing
Turning Point By Alon Peretz. Have A Great Day!
I think he was actually guilty adin Ross saved him illegally his 20vs1 sidemen video is so weird
That same story about r**e and especially stopping circulation was the same with tate and Russell Brand
Bunch of horrible friends. My boi who ive known since middle school was in a similar predicament in our senior year of HS. And the supposed accusation and evidence was looking dark for him. Yet the bois stuck with him and we kept pleading for him looking for alibies and proper witnesses and even having a lawyer friend ready to defend him in court. Turned out the accusers were lying out their asses using each other as false witnesses.
That’s not weird at all mate. At the time you thought your friend was a rapist and you kept begging him to look for an alibi? All of you are weird af
@@yakub888 Your an excellent example of a face value friend so you shouldnt expect a friend to help you out in times of need.
@@yakub888 if you get falsely accused what would you expect from your boys?
he's only close with Chunkz in Beta Squad. He even called Darkest mid in his vids, and gets easily mad with jokes.
Just because your friend is innocent, doesn't mean Filly is as well. watch Beta Squad's vid where they have Filly needed to pick a date in the end and hear for yourself how his entire questions with all the girls are ALL very sexual and overly disgusting.
@@fl-g15ramirezscullylou87 You proved my point. All his supposed friends are all fake and all cut ties with him as soon as he got in trouble. All so they dont lose out on revenue. Even chunkz kept quiet. Shows you how shallow these influencers are. Why entertainment will end as we know it is because no one is real. And it's philly's fault for not making any real friends to begin with.
It wasn't a shock to his friends, even the first dude you showed was super sus and definitely knew more, even though he says otherwise. Because a real friend who randomly gets accused of such a thing, even if there's a big chance it's true, would be in denial and support his friend until proven guilty for real, and say that his friend is definitely not a rper
Your claim that famous people have been accused of rape/sexual assault and the allegations were proven to be wrong IS NOT TRUE. There was just not enough evidence in the structure of our current legal systems to be proven right. Please be careful about the exact words you are using. The distinction is very important. Rape is very hard to prove in our current flawed legal systems, it doesn’t mean that the allegations were proven to be wrong.
it happened to tupac...
My honest/humble opinion:.......
I genuinely don't care. Preferably he's innocent and no women were hurt, But, no smoke without fire so if he did do what he's accused of then I hope they make an example out of him and he gets a fat prison sentence and then the appropriate treatment in whatever facility he goes to. Overall though.....I'm really not bothered and I can't feel any sympathy for anyone who's 1 - rich and 2 - put themselves in that predicament.
Surviving young philly
Some of you need to chill out until theres solid evidence. Like jeez, I know what he was accused of is bad, but its just allegations. Wait a bit more 😒
Obviously the evidence won't be revealed publicly
I hated filly from day 1, i always knew something was fucked up about him
Clickbait thumbnail garbage creator
Big click bait chunkz and niko aint even in the vid
Famous youtuber.....not famous rapper
Manlikeisaac is the definition of FAKE lmao
even if the allegations arent real, the fact that hes a asshole off camera definitely throws me off
We knew that already. The Beta squad called him out on camera for that. He's a dick in person, but that's no proof of SA
Innocent until proven guilty
An old saying from my childhood springs to mind..... "pressure den enit bruv". If you put yourself around that type of people and you have different women ciming back to your room with you then you shouldn't really be surprised if/when stuff like that happens. (Pretty simple obvious stuff really tbh)
I'm glad I'm not famous. Imagine having such an intense experience that's super rough (providing you're into it) and then finding out she's flipping on you. I'd be heart broken, and probably never lay with a woman ever again!
I think it's odd that she knew who he was, knowing he's famous, and accepted an invitation TO HIS ROOM.. That means ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY. You're going to have sex. And if they had extremely rough sex (which is a lot more common than you may think) than it's going to look TERRIBLE for him. I've been with women who like it rough, and there's other women who want it even rougher and keep asking for more - and those women end up all kinds of fucked up physically. Anywhere from Struggling to walk, to bruises lasting a very long time, to vaginal bleeding, and so on..
I'm not defending him. But I'm trying to explain that there is a possibility where this is something that could've happened, and this girl decided to class it as R because she had all the ammunition to do so to get some money out of him or the situation to either pay for her education, a new car, a house or whatever.
If it's found out that she lied, I hope she goes to prison. If he is found guilty, I hope he rots in prison and receives the same punishment he dished out on her.
No lie every time when I used to see like the little short videos to the streams like when you streaming through UA-cam and so on I always had a feeling about that guy he's a little bit too strange
Yes you can comment on legal proceedings
I seen Yung filly in Mandurah shopping centre. Didnt know bout this case lmao
Ched Evan’s got 6 year didn’t do 6 month a year after release they found him not guilty bent as fuck if u ask me we live in the day n age that when a woman gets mad cuz u don’t do what they want we go prison guilty or not snm
He is innocent until proven guilty
"YUNG DIDDY"
Bro nah yall cant just watch the vid and not subscribe and he has 608 subs and this vid got 394k views bro
UA-cams are Not celebrities
Now a days women can just say such things and the guy can be arrested, if he is found not guilty the women wont get sued......this is the justice system, lets just hope he didnt do it
That's just not true. You cannot be CHARGED without evidence. If there wasn't enough evidence the UK wouldn't have extradited him to Australia, nor would it have been possible for Australia to take away his passport. That lad is guilty.
@@ginnundsoyou are wrong.
@@paulruano1903 no, I am correct.
@@Weeklythrower58 And what does that have to do with this case where there is proof?
Even so, only 6% of cases are estimated to be false accusations. Of course false accusations are bad and have an impact, but having gone through actual sexual assault and sexual trauma is more likely than having lied. Actually, men are more likely to be raped by another man than to be falsely accused by a woman. So believe victims.
I cannot continue this conversation calmly as I am a survivor of multiple sexual offenses against me and I can't fight with people assuming that all claims are made up, so you have a good day I gotta take care of myself.
@@ginnundsoIf what you're saying is correct, then 100% of charges should end in a criminal conviction. Since to you said "you can't be charged without evidence, he is guilty.", so why doesn't everyone who gets charged end up getting convicted? Maybe... Because the evidence police initially have is found out to be inaccurate or unreliable? Maybe because... People don't tell the truth?
Diddy do or Diddy not 😂
Filly i thought he was a comedian not a rapper cause I've never heard his music 🎶
But Hs is only talking on it so he can gloat cause he has fallen off just like that lad who eats rost potatoes 🥔 without chewing
but what if the women has done a harriet robson
not to defend filly.. but men.. do scrap a written contract before doing sxual activities, especially the person you will be engaging is new person to you.. we doesnt know yet the extend of these allegation and people already putting blame here and there, contract termination and so forth.. SA is easy now, especially if you are a men of statue..
proven or not, this will tainted someone life
A contract beforehand won't help cause you can change your mind halfway.
Hold on he says stay and take your cloths off or leave and she stayed and took her cloths off sounds like she wanted it to me
yung filly, more like young Diddy
This is such a weird video.
Whats crazy is non of his friends are getting involved, fair enough. But not one of his friends has said, Aint no way.. hes not capable, hes not the kind of guy.
It’s part of the culture.
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Beta squad real quiet
I'm shocked young filly did this
My thing is that man is 29 years old. To my knowledge never been accused of anything before. SA is not something people just pick up at 29 ya know what I mean. Those tendencies happen earlier on. He may not be the most likable person to some guys but I’ve never seen him be disrespectful to women in videos. I’ve seen him down talk himself compared to women in videos. He just doesn’t give me that vibe. He may be cocky but a lot of personalities are. I don’t know him personally but I never looked at Jo m and thought hmmmm he seems sus.
Furthermore, I do not care who you are or what you thought was going to happen, if you WILLINGLY go back to a man’s hotel room EXPECT some cheek clapping. That’s just common sense. These ladies need to stop trying to be friendly with these celebrities thinking they just wana talk and play video games. No.
You can absolutely start SA people at any age without any indication before. You can also have been doing it without anyone reporting it before for a lot of different reasons. How he is in videos doesn't really matter.
A lot of charming and loveable people are complete assholes in disguise. A lot of people you might think highly of can be doing horrendous things behind closed doors.
You can go in with the expectation of a certain kind of sex and be met with something totally different, and if you don't consent to that then it's rape. Let's say you agree to have regular sex with someone and then they start slapping you around, something you don't want to, and you say no and want to stop having sex and the other person doesn't stop then it's rape. Rape doesn't just mean that you didn't agree to have sex, it can also be that you don't want to anymore for whatever reason.
Angry Ginge slow clapping?
Clickbait Thumbnail 🤦🏽
This Guy is acting too Much like a London Goat. Hopefully he will change his ways and act like a Kool Guy from Now On...!🤔🤔😇😇
Dawg yall needa chill like..
Bro people the day like this s***
I also believed filly didn’t do this but after watching some old clips of him it dosent look good for him
There is no "old clips" proving anything close to the situation get off the internet ya mug.
@@Mkvs68 why don’t you get a life and touch grass instead of acting like a child ?
@@Mkvs68 _The signs are there_