Chopin-Godowsky - The Complete Etudes - M.-A. Hamelin [SHEET-MUSIC]

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  • @alexmolt
    @alexmolt  3 роки тому +59

    00:07 - No.1 (Op.10-1) 1st version- C major
    02:13 - No.2 (Op.10-1) 2nd version- D flat major (left hand)
    04:54 - No.3 (Op.10-2) 1st version- A minor (left hand)
    06:41 - No.4 (Op.10-2) 2nd version- A minor ('Ignis fatuus')
    08:39 - No.5 (Op.10-3) D flat major (left hand)
    13:25 - No.6 (Op.10-4) C sharp minor (left hand)
    16:14 - No.7 (Op.10-5) 1st version- G flat major
    17:51 - No.8 (Op.10-5) 2nd version- C major
    19:42 - No.9 (Op.10-5) 3rd version- A minor ('Tarantella')
    22:12 - No.10 (Op.10-5) 4th version- A major ('Capriccio')
    24:19 - No.11 (Op.10-5) 5th version- G flat major
    26:16 - No.12 (Op.10-5) 6th version- G flat major
    28:06 - No.12a (Op.10-5) 7th version- G flat major (left hand)
    30:26 - No.13 (Op.10-6) E flat minor (left hand)
    34:11 - No.14 (Op.10-7) 1st version- C major ('Toccata')
    35:59 - No.15 (Op.10-7) 2nd version- G flat major ('Nocturne')
    38:54 - No.15a (Op.10-7) 3rd version- E flat major (left hand)
    41:19 - No.16 (Op.10-8) 1st version- F major
    44:32 - No.16a (Op.10-8) 2nd version- G flat major (left hand)
    48:11 - No.17 (Op.10-9) 1st version- C sharp minor
    50:53 - No.18 (Op.10-9) 2nd version- F minor (Imitation of Op.25-2)
    53:33 - No.18a (Op.10-9) 3rd version- F sharp minor (left hand)
    58:03 - No.19 (Op.10-10) 1st version- D major
    1:01:58 - No.20 (Op.10-10) 2nd version- A flat major (left hand)
    1:05:14 - No.21 (Op.10-11) A major (left hand)
    1:08:35 - No.22 (Op.10-12) C sharp minor (left hand)
    1:11:49 - No.23 (Op.25-1) 1st version- A flat major (left hand)
    1:14:55 - No.24 (Op.25-1) 2nd version- A flat major (like a piece for 4 hands)
    1:17:49 - No. 25 (Op. 25-1) 3rd version- A flat major
    1:20:39 - No. 26 (Op. 25-2) 1st version- F minor
    1:22:21 - No. 27 (Op. 25-2) 2nd version- F minor ('Waltz')
    1:24:31 - No. 28 (Op. 25,2) 3rd version - A- F minor
    1:27:09 - No. 28 (Op. 25-2) 3rd version - B- F minor
    1:30:12 - No. 28a (Op. 25-2) 4th version- F sharp minor (left hand)
    1:32:53 - No. 29 (Op. 25-3) 1st version- F major
    1:35:18 - No. 30 (Op. 25-3) 2nd version- F major (left hand)
    1:37:50 - No. 31 (Op. 25-4) 1st version- A minor (left hand)
    1:40:18 - No. 32 (Op. 25-4) 2nd version- F minor ('Polonaise')
    1:46:20 - No. 33 (Op. 25-5) 1st version- E minor
    1:50:08 - No. 34 (Op. 25-5) 2nd version- C sharp minor ('Mazurka')
    1:53:43 - No. 35 (Op. 25-5) 3rd version- B flat minor (left hand)
    1:58:12 - No. 36 (Op. 25-6) G sharp minor
    2:00:24 - No. 38 (Op. 25-8) D flat major
    2:01:55- No. 39 (Op. 25-9) 1st version- G flat major
    2:02:57 - No. 40 (Op. 25-9) 2nd version- G flat major (left hand)
    2:04:31 - No. 41 (Op. 25-10) B minor (left hand)
    2:09:09 - No. 42 (Op. 25-11) A minor
    2:13:36- No. 43 (Op. 25-12) C sharp minor (left hand)
    2:16:58 - No. 44 (Méth. M-F No. 1) F minor (left hand)
    2:18:48 - No. 45 (Méth. M-F No. 2) 1st version- E major
    2:22:56 - No. 45a (Méth. M-F No. 2) 2nd version- D flat major (left hand)
    2:25:06 - No. 46 (Méth. M-F No. 3) G major ('Menuetto')
    2:28:21 - No. 47 (Op. 10-5 and Op. 25-9) G flat major ('Badinage', 2 studies combined)
    2:29:55 - No. 48 (Op. 10-11 and Op. 25-3) F major (2 studies combined)

  • @dot8209
    @dot8209 2 роки тому +156

    Godowsky was certainly ahead of his time... he knew pianists would want their right hand for scrolling on their phone while playing Chopin etudes.

    • @bsdkflh
      @bsdkflh Рік тому +2

      I know right, I mean I gotta do my sudoku *sometime*, right?

  • @peter5.056
    @peter5.056 9 місяців тому +31

    This is a terrifying level of virtuosity.

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 2 місяці тому +1

      and an even scarier level of musicality

    • @peter5.056
      @peter5.056 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Varooooooom I honestly believe that Liszt himself would gasp upon hearing this. (Chopin would have stormed out of the room, muttering obscenities to himself, lol...)

  • @AsrielKujo
    @AsrielKujo 2 роки тому +56

    There is no other performer of this set outside of Maestro Hamelin, nobody plays and nobody will ever play these like him. Truly a blessing to have him on this earth and a blessing to our ears to be able to listen to this for free on UA-cam, thanks so much for the effort of making this video, i truly appreciate it, every minute you spent working on this was worth it!

    • @gerry30
      @gerry30 Рік тому +8

      I don't disagree with you but I really wish Godowsky himself had recorded at least some of them. Josef Hoffman said that when Godowsky was comfortable and relaxed, nobody could play like him. Coming from Hoffman, I can't imagine what that sounded like.

    • @yuehchopin
      @yuehchopin Рік тому +3

      @@gerry30 Konstantin Scherbakov spielte auch sehr gut

    • @yuehchopin
      @yuehchopin Рік тому

      Konstantin Scherbakov ist auch serh gut

    • @gerry30
      @gerry30 Рік тому

      @@yuehchopin Thank you for the suggestion. I will look into his playing some more. I saw that he recorded all of Godowsky's works. I enjoy Godowsky's original works as well as his transcriptions.

    • @yuehchopin
      @yuehchopin Рік тому +1

      @@gerry30 Oh, du hast einen guten Geschmack

  • @isthatajojoreference149
    @isthatajojoreference149 3 роки тому +68

    How does one learn this let alone record it with such perfection? Truly a remarkable pianist of the highest caliber.

    • @gabriel_kyne
      @gabriel_kyne 3 роки тому +22

      Recordings (including classical recordings, believe it or not!) are highly edited. That's how you get something like this with zero mistakes

    • @tackontitan
      @tackontitan 3 роки тому +9

      Practice, practice, practice.

    • @carrietide
      @carrietide 2 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @pianobirb0716
      @pianobirb0716 2 роки тому +11

      @@gabriel_kyne Mr. Hamelin plays these etudes live as well, and they are often impeccable. Yes there may be editing done, but not to a scale so that its drastically different from the original, otherwise Mr. Hamelin wouldn't be able to perform these in public!

    • @sqrti8825
      @sqrti8825 2 роки тому

      @@gabriel_kyne Where?

  • @kristianjohansson8912
    @kristianjohansson8912 2 роки тому +56

    If you listen to this on YT you should go and buy the album as well. His brilliant playing makes it seem that he just breezes through it, but he has worked hard to reach this extreme level of perfection. The man deserves the income. He is a genius.

    • @daviddickey370
      @daviddickey370 Рік тому +2

      Absolutely agree: I have had the cd's since they came out, but it's so great to have the sheet music too.

  • @TheExarion
    @TheExarion 2 роки тому +12

    16:05 1:08:35 Hamelin flexing that handspan (literally)

  • @tomekkobialka
    @tomekkobialka Рік тому +8

    This video should be transmitted into outer space to show any aliens out there that humanity isn't all that bad...
    These are all great but I think I love No.45 the most.
    Also that harmonic "turn" at 10:01...just beautiful.

  • @f1f1s
    @f1f1s 2 роки тому +38

    There is a reason why Nos. 44- onwards have ‘Méth.’ in their title. Meth. Meth is the only thing that can keep the pianist alive after 48 Godowsky’s transcriptions of Chopin’s Études.
    On a serious note, I am so much happier that Hamelin’s recording has been published online and made available to the wide public...

  • @itamarabramson5603
    @itamarabramson5603 3 роки тому +13

    How is it possible that only 3 people are watching this

    • @josswindsor8288
      @josswindsor8288 3 роки тому

      Virtuoso prodigioso brillante veloz espectacular...variantes del célebre num 1

  • @HenryJonesVictor
    @HenryJonesVictor 2 роки тому +51

    "This passage would sound better in octaves, provided no retardation results from the strain on the wrist" - "The pianist must show no sign of fatigue in the coda"
    holy shit these footnotes are hilarious. Damn how I wish we had some good recordings of Godowsky's playing

    • @aidanm.1683
      @aidanm.1683 2 роки тому +1

      Where are those two footnites

    • @padraicfanning7055
      @padraicfanning7055 2 роки тому +2

      @@aidanm.1683 very first study, close to the recap

    • @markswanson549
      @markswanson549 Рік тому +2

      I’m glad he included the fingering. Makes it so much easier lol! #sarcasm

    • @andrewzhang8512
      @andrewzhang8512 Рік тому +1

      wtf bruh superhuman moment

    • @imdarealani
      @imdarealani Рік тому

      Here after Caleb Hu did it (with video)!

  • @JamesSmith-mw7ps
    @JamesSmith-mw7ps 2 роки тому +14

    This is such a monumental work in piano technique (and music). The markings are so detailed, and he often provides 2 sets of fingerings. These features combined with the multiple studies on the same Chopin etude really open our eyes to the technical and musical mind of Godowsky, one of the greatest pianist and arranger of all time.
    If I had to pick only one etude set to learn from, this would be the one. It’s less physical than Chopin’s original as the tempo requirements are a lot more lenient, but they are much more complicated musically and technically. I would say these studies are incredibly practical as well. Chopin’s technique is at the core of Romantic piano technique, and Godowsky has transferred most of it directly onto the left hand. Godowsky’s right hand is more free: they offer technical hurdles for pianists to overcome (kind of like Liszt etudes).

  • @philinh9169
    @philinh9169 6 місяців тому +2

    Very Impressive how clean the left hand versions are! Especially how the polyphonic voicing is maintained and crystallized

  • @notmytempo464
    @notmytempo464 3 роки тому +18

    Fantastic upload thank you! I bought this album a while back, Mr Hamelin really rasied the bar of pianistic artistry and virtuosity with it. A true musical gem of our time!

  • @MrAchu1000
    @MrAchu1000 3 роки тому +5

    waterfall etude in d flat major is fantastic!

  • @pacojonesvaior9212
    @pacojonesvaior9212 2 місяці тому

    Hamelim… Genious.. Virtuoso.. Humble! ❤❤

  • @avb20540
    @avb20540 3 роки тому +91

    I want to see Hamelin unleash this at the Chopin competitions

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 2 роки тому +12

      biggest flex in history

    • @JamesSmith-mw7ps
      @JamesSmith-mw7ps 2 роки тому +9

      In some sense Chopin’s etudes are better for competitions. They are a lot less cluttered, which can show off finger brillance and at the same time expose problems that would otherwise be hidden by Godowsky’s thick texture.
      And I think they are better music, not to belittle Godowsky’s contributions to music and technique.

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 2 роки тому +15

      @@JamesSmith-mw7ps i think it was meant to be more like a flex than a competition itself, would be great to see and exibition just so he could flex on the participants lmao

    • @AsrielKujo
      @AsrielKujo 2 роки тому +6

      @@tommasozucol4160 you're very nice to this kid who doesn't know what he's talking about, but still, all of this music is just not only so much harder technically and musically, but for more advanced listeners (apparently not the jury of chopin competitions) it's much more pleasing

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 2 роки тому +2

      @@AsrielKujo I agree, probably the thing that makes them sound boring is probably the fact there are many different versions for a single etude and listening to them all in order might result boring... But the truth is that if you listen to them one by one, they are beautiful pieces, with much more pathos than the original ones!

  • @веравасильева-ы3м9с
    @веравасильева-ы3м9с 11 місяців тому +1

    I love you Marc Andre....

  • @tomyoarrete3060
    @tomyoarrete3060 3 роки тому +8

    Juste incroyable, quel travail pour n'en maîtriser qu'une seule déjà !!

  • @sebastianbrix
    @sebastianbrix 3 роки тому +5

    A TRULY titanic upload, thank you so much ALEX MOLT!

  • @modernetude5750
    @modernetude5750 Рік тому +2

    Thank you very much for sharing this. I didn't expect this etude to be satisfying to hear like this. I think that Hamelin has reached a transcendental level.

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 3 роки тому +26

    Quick people, save this somewhere on your HD. Hyperion Records is famous for not wanting to have any form of their proprieties floating around on UA-cam and this will get a copyright strike in no time.

    • @grantgayle9212
      @grantgayle9212 3 роки тому +4

      Right??? I was very shocked to see this content on YT.

    • @BjornHegstad
      @BjornHegstad 3 роки тому +8

      Or pay to buy a recording to support their work.

    • @davidxpopescu
      @davidxpopescu 2 роки тому +2

      Still being able to listen after 1 year tho 😅

    • @Isegawa2001
      @Isegawa2001 2 роки тому

      @@BjornHegstad I'd rather pirate

    • @MiklosVeszpremi
      @MiklosVeszpremi Рік тому +2

      Or you just pay Hyperion a few bucks so they keep being able to finance such awesome recordings? 🧐

  • @WesCoastPiano
    @WesCoastPiano 3 роки тому +5

    Superb astounding collection

  • @dd8436
    @dd8436 Рік тому

    I've been listening to this for 2 years and every time I listen to it I'm surprised how it survived from Hyperion... Anyway thanks for the upload :)

  • @Dtiaah
    @Dtiaah Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this post. He is a gigantic talent combined with being a kind and genuine person, a rarity to be admired and cherished. Like these performances and, I suspect, you. Again, thank you.

  • @illogicmath
    @illogicmath 3 роки тому +9

    This is insane. The revolutionary study played only with the left hand.

    • @pxyz7
      @pxyz7 2 роки тому

      I wouldn't have believed it, and then I saw it.

  • @christopherczajasager9030
    @christopherczajasager9030 3 роки тому +3

    AWESOME playing

  • @waynesmith6784
    @waynesmith6784 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you, Godowsky playing these great pieces ha made my evening.

    • @JuNoKun1
      @JuNoKun1 3 роки тому +5

      You understand this is not Godowsky playing, right?

    • @waynesmith6784
      @waynesmith6784 3 роки тому +2

      Yes , meant these great Godowsky pieces! I m not good at anything digital! I do love Godowsky playing tho.

  • @Nonconform14
    @Nonconform14 5 місяців тому

    best Pianist this time

  • @CaringCommentator
    @CaringCommentator Рік тому

    no 34 1:50:05 may be one of my favourites for a solo program filler with a more relaxed atmosphere (obv. aside from 45 and .. )

  • @Korzhovkomposer
    @Korzhovkomposer Рік тому

    Шикарно)

  • @paolofranceschi6874
    @paolofranceschi6874 Рік тому

    Amazing. Even more... ❤

  • @jackcurley1591
    @jackcurley1591 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the vid!!! Hope it stays up

  • @dd8436
    @dd8436 6 місяців тому

    1:40:18 Polonaise
    1:50:08 Mazurka

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 2 роки тому

    Godowsky is working the left hand to the absolute ultimate.

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak Рік тому

    Some of these are really insane and incredibly taxing.

  • @davidrds
    @davidrds 2 роки тому

    This is insane! Really amazing.

  • @Varooooooom
    @Varooooooom 2 місяці тому

    2:16:58 the tempo he takes this at is wild

  • @dan_thepianoman4401
    @dan_thepianoman4401 3 роки тому +4

    This is how I imagine chopin played them before writing them down

  • @angelobonacci461
    @angelobonacci461 Рік тому

    Grandissimo virtuoso,ma ricordiamoci che il primo studio di chopin nonostante ci siano meno note che nella versione di godoski non è meno difficile perché comunque nella versione di chopin concentra di più il virtuosismo nella mano destra ed è più veloce e non c'è il cambio nelle estensioni rischiose ma devi allargare di continuo le dita..

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 2 роки тому

    I really have no idea how to begin in approaching these exceedingly difficult etudes after the Appasionata !

  • @RaptorT1V
    @RaptorT1V 3 роки тому +2

    О даа, Шопен-Годовски !

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 3 місяці тому +1

    How good was Godowsky? Rachmaninov's daughter said her father thought Godowsky was some kind of technical God of the piano. BTW: if you would like some other examples of Godowsky's genius, check these out:
    ua-cam.com/video/lDahvLh-460/v-deo.htmlsi=yJUPs8kFCVdUw0zd
    ua-cam.com/video/f0nlJXooIVc/v-deo.htmlsi=_utExAvWiWduWzw3

  • @michaelloew522
    @michaelloew522 Рік тому

    bro wanted to practice his left hand by itself so that it was as good as his right hand

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 Рік тому

    As always fascinated that every pianist take nr1 Waterfalletyd so easily in right hands something giant ' liep ':intervall as that their right hand is round:'ball' as it use to be,these pieces becomes more difficult. Ballad scherzo pianoconsertos Chopins also what l can see leading in hardness,beauty(opinion is varieted

  • @danyjamous5986
    @danyjamous5986 3 роки тому +2

    15:34 : so frustrating, all the build up vanishes

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 2 роки тому

    Bravo Godofsky Hamelin in greatness such as Lisitsa even Chopin would be jelous

  • @universeforest5386
    @universeforest5386 3 роки тому

    I feel @ No,48 is wonderful of op10-11 and op25-3.

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 3 роки тому

    No sabía que los Estudios 😃 fuéran Hamelín.

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 3 роки тому +6

    It’s close to a superhuman pianism by Hamelin and worth listening for that. However I have always found this a rather boring thing musically. Basically just more notes and complexity.

    • @deadlysquad13
      @deadlysquad13 2 роки тому +4

      With more notes and bigger complexity come new lovely voices) No. 25 with 4 voices for me is one of the best as it transforms Chopin`s work with more colors.
      Also some of the studies show etudes in a new light: more lyrical Op. 10 No. 1 - Godowsky`s No. 2, more dramatic Op. 25 No. 12 - Godowsky`s No. 43.

  • @JamesSmith-mw7ps
    @JamesSmith-mw7ps 2 роки тому +4

    I am very thankful for the fact that someone was able to record this at such a high level, but I feel like there are untapped musical potential in these studies.
    Hamelin’s playing is very smooth and flowery, but I think these pieces would sound even better with stricter tempo and more definition (like Pollini’s Chopin etudes).

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 2 роки тому +1

      You should hear Robert Henry’s performances available on UA-cam

  • @alejandrotamiojr7128
    @alejandrotamiojr7128 2 роки тому

    2:11:15

  • @JZL2080
    @JZL2080 5 місяців тому +1

    Godowsky expanded difficulty from Chopin, it is super virtuostic. Rare pianists play them.😂

    • @Paroles_et_Musique
      @Paroles_et_Musique 3 місяці тому

      Actually the original etudes, at least the most difficult ones, are much harder than the Godowsky adds. Paradoxically.

  • @gentle_goy23432
    @gentle_goy23432 9 місяців тому

    Hard

  • @АлександрКлименко-э6ж

    ❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️

  • @violadamore2-bu2ch
    @violadamore2-bu2ch Рік тому

    I can't read the music fast enough to listen !!!!!

  • @Piratebreadstick
    @Piratebreadstick 3 роки тому +2

    Jesus.

  • @alexkim4636
    @alexkim4636 3 роки тому

    💖💖💖💖🎵🎵🎵🎵💣👍😘😍

  • @alexanderbayramov2626
    @alexanderbayramov2626 2 роки тому +1

    Based Godowsky
    Based M.A.Hamelin
    Based alexmolt

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 3 роки тому

    Revolutionary etyd with octavas in left hand Liszt and l did it. Almost easier as the usual and tempo wasn't bad it is Okey l say really

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 2 роки тому

    Dubbel RH Waterfalletyd first thanks Godofsky, Chopin would be stunned, and imagine op25 nr6, winterwindetyd

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 2 роки тому

    Quién es este extrañ

  • @dreamsdreams9493
    @dreamsdreams9493 2 роки тому

    Didn't Maestro Hamelin himself say that Ignis Fatuus is the hardest of the whole set??

  • @MS-wn3my
    @MS-wn3my 9 місяців тому

    Не, оригинал в разы лучше. Тут какая-то мазня, мешанина из нот.
    А у Шопена, как у Моцарта, нот ровно столько, сколько нужно. Нет ни одной недостающей или одной лишней ноты !❤

    • @alexmolt
      @alexmolt  9 місяців тому +2

      А мне нравится как оригинал, так и эта версия. Не стоит эту версию воспринимать как "замену" оригинальным. Я бы воспринимал, как "полёт фантазии на тему...", обрамлённый усложнённой технической/полифонической/ритмической/ "леворучной"/какой угодно задачей. Почему бы и нет? Создавая что-то "новое"из гениального "старого", композитор только восхваляет оригинал, но никак не пытается создать что-то "в разы лучше".
      А "мазню и мешанину из нот" не слышу, как раз благодаря гениальному пианисту Марку Андрэ Амлену. Запись вышла потрясающей. Даже только чисто с технической точки зрения, сам факт того, что он смог охватить весь цикл - уму непостижимо. Какой невероятный труд и талант...

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 2 роки тому

    Nadie sabe quién ese Hamelín. 😔

    • @alexmolt
      @alexmolt  2 роки тому

      es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc-Andr%C3%A9_Hamelin

  • @adrianwright8685
    @adrianwright8685 2 роки тому +1

    The technical difficulty is such that it's hardly surprising nobody else has ever attempted these as a complete set.

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom Рік тому +3

      Francesco Libetta has played the full set in concert, Carlo Grante has 2 full sets of studio recordings, Emanuele Delucchi has a studio recording of the full set, and David Stanhope has played all of them except the nouvelle/combination arrangements.
      EDIT: That being said, Hamelin probably still has the most stand-out performances.

    • @adrianwright8685
      @adrianwright8685 Рік тому +2

      @@Varooooooom Thanks for the information. There are so many top class pianists out there you wonder how they all manage to earn a living!

  • @타일꿀
    @타일꿀 2 роки тому

    This is what must not exist on the earth!!!
    So dangerous to our mind!! But i love this so much:)

  • @redeemerofcasuality1722
    @redeemerofcasuality1722 3 роки тому +1

    Next level shit right here

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 2 роки тому +1

    The winter wind etude is a lot lot more difficult in this transcription than the original by Chopin.

    • @adrianwright8685
      @adrianwright8685 2 роки тому +4

      These are not "transcriptions", they are complete re-workings of the originals and in almost every case they are technically much harder - that really was the main idea!

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan Рік тому +1

    Funny to realize that if one mastered Godowsky's etudes, then the actual Chopin etudes would be easy! lol

    • @alexmolt
      @alexmolt  Рік тому

      I think... yes, and no. Fewer notes ≠ easier to play.

    • @Paroles_et_Musique
      @Paroles_et_Musique 3 місяці тому

      @@alexmolt Exactly, the original are still harder, the Godowsky adds allow to cheat around. Harder to learn but easier to perform.

  • @SpaghettiToaster
    @SpaghettiToaster 2 роки тому

    Hyperion is going to nuke this video from orbit.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 2 роки тому

      @Miraak They are generally the most aggressive label when it comes to uploads of their music. Honestly, it's a miracle that this one is still up.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 2 роки тому +1

      @Miraak The score might be in the public domain (not sure about Godowsky though), but the recording of course isn't. I wouldn't call them rats, since it's their right to block people from listening to their records without paying, after all, Hamelin and the other Hyperion artists and engineers need to be paid for their work. But most labels choose to just simply monetize people's videos of their music, which allows them to make money off of it and people still to watch the videos. But Hyperion are extremely draconic about it, they also don't believe in music streaming which is why their recordings aren't on any platform like spotify, so whenever they see an upload of their products, they usually go apeshit and have it deleted immediately, which is a bit scummy in my opinion.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 2 роки тому

      @Miraak Of course he is, just not allowed to upload recordings he made for the Hyperion label, since they have the rights to them. This video for example clearly violates Hyperion's copyright, since we're listening to the album for free instead of paying 30 bucks for their digital download. However, I personally still think the benefit of people watching these score videos, learning about the music for the first time and later possibly buying the recordings to get them in higher audio quality far outweighs the loss.

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 2 роки тому +2

      I’m shocked it’s still up lol

    • @javascriptkiddie2718
      @javascriptkiddie2718 2 місяці тому

      @@SpaghettiToaster nobody buys music anymore. Get real.

  • @타일꿀
    @타일꿀 2 роки тому

    Godowsky is the most handsome man on thumbnail right??

  • @barejon2733
    @barejon2733 Рік тому +1

    cursed

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 3 роки тому +1

    Chopin so lucky to be pure personal life in all forms and not pressed by others getting fake identity fake life in a time many makes competition in to be as stupid as possible

  • @Lennythewinner
    @Lennythewinner Рік тому

    Great exercises in how to wreck beautiful Chopin for the sake of having to prove that "anything anyone else can do, I can do better".

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 9 місяців тому +1

      So you admit these are better than Chopin’s works…?

  • @simeonbogdanov3010
    @simeonbogdanov3010 2 роки тому +1

    Original Chopin is better

    • @collinm.4652
      @collinm.4652 2 роки тому +8

      @Miraak stop comparing godowskys innovation with chopins, then maybe you’ll enjoy them a bit more.

    • @collinm.4652
      @collinm.4652 2 роки тому +7

      @Miraak my point was that they are not meant to sound like Chopin. They are meant to extend on Chopins genius through counterpoint and different textures. Of course something written anything other than Chopin isn’t going to sound like Chopin lol. However you are not totally incorrect In disliking the music as music is subjective and not everyone likes what u like, there is nothing u can do about that. It’s quite detailed music if u understand it, all the stuff going on behind the scenes can make it easy to make it sound messy and I can totally see where u may not like it.

    • @composerjalen
      @composerjalen 2 роки тому +3

      @Miraak Wow Godowsky sounds nothing like Chopin, that's crazy bro, great observation

    • @oritdrimer4354
      @oritdrimer4354 3 місяці тому

      No

  • @rravvia
    @rravvia 5 місяців тому

    Frankendowsky's monsters. Horrible.

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 3 роки тому +2

    alot of times godowsky just adds a bunch of notes with no real meaning and they are just badly implemented tbh

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 3 роки тому

      @Felis Skalkotris Sorabjitus use your ears

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 3 роки тому +1

      @Dhruva Punde how the fuck do I show you examples or prove that? I just think he makes the music often times dissonant for no reason or makes a bunch of notes go really fast even though a single chord would suffice, the writer of these pieces is more of a pianist, not a composer

    • @dd8436
      @dd8436 3 роки тому

      ㄴㄱㅁ

    • @dd8436
      @dd8436 3 роки тому +1

      하나 집어서 예를 들어주라니까 말도못하고 인신공격만 하노 ㅋㅋ

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 3 роки тому

      @Felis Skalkotris Sorabjitus was I speaking about his pieces or was I speaking about the chopin etudes in this video? The latter it is, so my point still stands that godowsky in these etudes adds unnecessary dissonances and lengthens chords into arpeggios or whatever else for no real purpose other than the feeling of complexity or difficulty

  • @rravvia
    @rravvia 3 роки тому +4

    I really hate these pieces.

    • @khalilmutallibov
      @khalilmutallibov 3 роки тому +1

      why? because of their difficulty?

    • @rravvia
      @rravvia 3 роки тому

      @@khalilmutallibov They after perfect in their original form. These arrangements, while amazing, mess with perfection.

    • @rravvia
      @rravvia 3 роки тому +1

      @Brady Dill I still hate them.

    • @paulstrickler5684
      @paulstrickler5684 3 роки тому +2

      Tom, stick to your guns - how you feel about Godowsky's work is just as valid as anyone else’s.

    • @rravvia
      @rravvia 3 роки тому

      @@paulstrickler5684 Thanks.

  • @kallehed6330
    @kallehed6330 3 роки тому +2

    Man, Godowsky should have made more variation-form style pieces.
    edit: Man godowsky you can't just add more notes, just because you add 2 extra lines playing the same chords doesn't make the composition better, just try to say more with less
    edit 2: man, godowsky now you're literally just taking everything I love about Chopin and throwing it in the dumpster, why?
    edit 3: Ok, I get it, you're such a bad composer the only thing you can do is flip the right and left hands of Chopin etudes and call them "studies"
    edit 4: OK , you're left hand version of the octaves etude is actually a better version lol, I'll give you credit for this one, because that etude usually sucks to listen too

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 3 роки тому +20

      Dude… cringe. He’s not trying to make the studies better. He’s making his own versions of them with a focus on left hand technique. Also, he understood that less is more. There are MANY points where he could’ve simply beefed up the music with more notes if that’s really what he wanted to do. He was exploring different harmonies and thus exploring the Chopin etudes in new flavors. It doesn’t work for me all the time either, BUT HEY IF YOU WANNA LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL CHOPIN ETUDES, THERE’S A MILLION PERFORMANCES OF THEM THAT ARE PERFECTLY PLAIN AND UNTAMPERED WITH. The Chopin etudes are not “ruined” by these studies’ mere existence.
      If you can’t take the time to understand what Godowsky’s intentions were here, then stfu lmao.

    • @kallehed6330
      @kallehed6330 3 роки тому +3

      @@Varooooooom based

  • @Manx123
    @Manx123 Рік тому

    Ugh. So many of these are messy, and most other recordings aren't much better. If Hamelin of all people couldn't make clean recordings of these, I'm led to believe that these pieces just aren't worth learning, since the are plenty of works, even virtuosic ones, that are immensely easier. Some of the most difficult works here, especially ones that do little more than transfer the difficulties from the right to the lend hand, aren't even effective showpieces, since the audience can't really perceived how monstrously more difficult it is to play what would otherwise be fairly difficult for the right hand on the left.

    • @Arctales21
      @Arctales21 Рік тому +1

      I think you got it in you to record all of these.

    • @Manx123
      @Manx123 Рік тому +1

      @@Arctales21 is that supposed to be sarcasm?

    • @Arctales21
      @Arctales21 Рік тому +1

      @@Manx123 No

    • @Manx123
      @Manx123 Рік тому +1

      @@Arctales21 Well, that's an ridiculous thing to seriously say. Some of the best pianists in the world have unsuccessfully tried these pieces, and I'm just some random UA-cam commenter pointing this out.

    • @Arctales21
      @Arctales21 Рік тому +1

      @@Manx123 not with that attitude

  • @wilh3lmmusic
    @wilh3lmmusic 2 роки тому

    1:34:27