Thank you doc for the eye opening information that you shared about aligner mechanics and materials. It clearly states that why someone is struggling with aligner for the difficult tooth movements. highly recommended..
Great lecture... Did you have an engineering or heavy classical physics undergrad experience? Biomechanics? Would love to hear how you approached this early in your quest to understanding, thank you.
Hi Doctor Thank you for this great presentation.. did the aligners closed the space in the case you started to treat ? Do you provide mentoring services to general dentists in doing orthodontics treatment ?
32:57 Is just like roller-coaster effect if we use NiTi 0.016. Or 0.018 or NiTi rectangular wire Instead of using SS wire we get this effect and its called rolorcoster effect same is coming with these aligners from my opinion if we use 2mm sheet with power riges on incisers on gingival area we can get translation movement
Yes, of course. Aligners are one of the many appliances that are used to move teeth. PAOO as it claims is used to accelerate tooth movement. However, as you will experience faster tooth movement, the aligner side effects will get exaggerated too. (orthobites.org).
Great lecture but I am still amazed when I hear root movement or tooth translation cannot be done efficiently using aligners specifically invisalign. Building gable bends for the teeth being translated in your clincheck combined with a vertical lingual attachment and a bevelled horizontal offset attachment on the buccal will yield predictable results all the time. All these side effects can be negated by overcorrections in the opposite direction. Cannot extrude posterior teeth you might say? Well how about building a reverse spee wire into the clincheck and having the right attachments, not breaking the aligner biomechanics rules, and see how fast you climb out of a deep bite. It works you just need to micromanage every single tooth.
Thank you for sharing your tips! Based on the current evidence, these are some of the steps should take to counter the drawbacks of aligners. Hopefully researchers can identify similar measures, apply & evaluate them in retrospective or prospective studies. This will then tell us how effective they are.
Indeed, very interesting lecture. I think that the literature on which this presentation is based is quite old in some cases, older than SmartTrack for example. That could explain some discrepancies in current observed results.
Thank you for the comments. A couple of things: the basic material for aligners for years have been polyester, polyurethane or co-polyester, polypropylene, polycarbonate, ethylene vinyl acetate, and polyvinyl chloride, among others. These have not changed much over the years, which implies that the fundamental mechanical properties have not either. Second, the new research either clinical or in vitro in summary has not shown any change in behavior.
I need your help! My dentist had me change trays everyday (I didn't know this was unusual) but he had 0.056 mm activation per tray maybe even more for a total of around 1.4 mm. :( 25 trays in 30 days with IPR between tray 15 and 16. No one can help me decide if more damage than just my incisor dying happened because no one knows how the force was applied/compounded. I manage to get my tooth movement table and the staging should be even over all teeth over all 25 trays. 0.392 mm/week velocity attempt with 1.4mm/month total Would you consider this excessive or dangerous? Would you help me figure out what happened on some level?
Appreciate the details that you have (assuming you are not a dentist yourself ?). There are many things, that go, into planning an orthodontic tx. To understand the dynamics of your treatment we will have to look at many details. However, in general, an optimal rate of tooth movement will be around 0.4 mm-1.2mm/month. Tipping movements will be on the higher side while pure root movements on the lower and everything else in between. So was the movement in your case excessive! Maybe? However, a 1. 4mm /month movement will not cause loss of vitality.
I have a question , so when you mention the % in the tipping , you show a teeth with a torque movement , I do not know if its a language difference cuz my native language is Spanish , so this movement that you show is tipping or torque ? It confuse me cuz I want to know when I need to use thicker aligners , for torque movement or tipping movement
Broadly tipping comes in two forms: uncontrolled ( root moves in one direction and crown in the other) & controlled tipping ( minimal movement of the root). The tipping movement shown at 25:20 is more toward uncontrolled tipping (UT). Here there is no torque being used ( because that is the classical definition for UT). CT needs some control over the so there is little torque used. Thicker aligners might help with torquing movement, however the evidence is not there.
Aligners have utility based on patient, malocclusion, tooth movement, compliance However, it is not as broad as the companies or aligner 'gurus' make it appear. It is important to study them so that as a clinician you know when, where & how to use them.
Thank you doc for the eye opening information that you shared about aligner mechanics and materials. It clearly states that why someone is struggling with aligner for the difficult tooth movements. highly recommended..
Highly informative video 👍
Dr Madhur ❤🔥
Great lecture... Did you have an engineering or heavy classical physics undergrad experience? Biomechanics? Would love to hear how you approached this early in your quest to understanding, thank you.
Thank you so much Doc
Excellent lecture.. learnt a lot about basics of aligners
Great lecture and presentation. Thank you so much Dr Madhur Upadhyay
Very impressive lecture. Great job !
Very well demonstrated and explained sir... Thankyou so much for this 🙏
Great lecture. Honest one.
Excellent lecture
Thanks a lot Doctor
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Hi Doctor
Thank you for this great presentation.. did the aligners closed the space in the case you started to treat ?
Do you provide mentoring services to general dentists in doing orthodontics treatment ?
thank you
You are welcome!
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32:57
Is just like roller-coaster effect if we use NiTi 0.016.
Or 0.018 or NiTi rectangular wire Instead of using SS wire we get this effect and its called rolorcoster effect same is coming with these aligners from my opinion if we use 2mm sheet with power riges on incisers on gingival area we can get translation movement
What a great lecture.
Thank you!
Sir, can we apply PAOO in aligners too. Kole's procedure.
Yes, of course. Aligners are one of the many appliances that are used to move teeth. PAOO as it claims is used to accelerate tooth movement. However, as you will experience faster tooth movement, the aligner side effects will get exaggerated too. (orthobites.org).
Thanks for sharing your lecture.
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Great lecture but I am still amazed when I hear root movement or tooth translation cannot be done efficiently using aligners specifically invisalign. Building gable bends for the teeth being translated in your clincheck combined with a vertical lingual attachment and a bevelled horizontal offset attachment on the buccal will yield predictable results all the time. All these side effects can be negated by overcorrections in the opposite direction. Cannot extrude posterior teeth you might say? Well how about building a reverse spee wire into the clincheck and having the right attachments, not breaking the aligner biomechanics rules, and see how fast you climb out of a deep bite. It works you just need to micromanage every single tooth.
Thank you for sharing your tips! Based on the current evidence, these are some of the steps should take to counter the drawbacks of aligners. Hopefully researchers can identify similar measures, apply & evaluate them in retrospective or prospective studies. This will then tell us how effective they are.
Indeed, very interesting lecture. I think that the literature on which this presentation is based is quite old in some cases, older than SmartTrack for example. That could explain some discrepancies in current observed results.
most studies are quite old. isn't it possible that the technology of the aligners has changed the information in the video?
Thank you for the comments. A couple of things: the basic material for aligners for years have been polyester, polyurethane or co-polyester, polypropylene, polycarbonate, ethylene vinyl acetate, and polyvinyl chloride, among others. These have not changed much over the years, which implies that the fundamental mechanical properties have not either. Second, the new research either clinical or in vitro in summary has not shown any change in behavior.
I need your help! My dentist had me change trays everyday (I didn't know this was unusual) but he had 0.056 mm activation per tray maybe even more for a total of around 1.4 mm. :( 25 trays in 30 days with IPR between tray 15 and 16. No one can help me decide if more damage than just my incisor dying happened because no one knows how the force was applied/compounded. I manage to get my tooth movement table and the staging should be even over all teeth over all 25 trays.
0.392 mm/week velocity attempt with 1.4mm/month total
Would you consider this excessive or dangerous?
Would you help me figure out what happened on some level?
Appreciate the details that you have (assuming you are not a dentist yourself ?). There are many things, that go, into planning an orthodontic tx. To understand the dynamics of your treatment we will have to look at many details. However, in general, an optimal rate of tooth movement will be around 0.4 mm-1.2mm/month. Tipping movements will be on the higher side while pure root movements on the lower and everything else in between. So was the movement in your case excessive! Maybe? However, a 1. 4mm /month movement will not cause loss of vitality.
Great presentation Thank you so much for sharing really appreciate it!
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I have a question , so when you mention the % in the tipping , you show a teeth with a torque movement , I do not know if its a language difference cuz my native language is Spanish , so this movement that you show is tipping or torque ? It confuse me cuz I want to know when I need to use thicker aligners , for torque movement or tipping movement
Broadly tipping comes in two forms: uncontrolled ( root moves in one direction and crown in the other) & controlled tipping ( minimal movement of the root). The tipping movement shown at 25:20 is more toward uncontrolled tipping (UT). Here there is no torque being used ( because that is the classical definition for UT). CT needs some control over the so there is little torque used. Thicker aligners might help with torquing movement, however the evidence is not there.
@@orthobitesorg thank you for your answer
So is it true that there is no point in using aligners instead of braces? I was just about to start studying aligners to use in my practice
Aligners have utility based on patient, malocclusion, tooth movement, compliance However, it is not as broad as the companies or aligner 'gurus' make it appear. It is important to study them so that as a clinician you know when, where & how to use them.
Yo is it harmful for reproductive help???