The only problem is the price of a msa 300 it’s 1200 dollars and that’s with one battery if I got 2 batteries thats 1500 dollars that’s almost the price of a ms 661 and the ms 271 your comparing is only 500 dollars I would much rather get the gas it’s just way cheaper in the end
@@user-DR.James87 that was my concern for a while but it just won’t work I used to live in the city and that’s when I thought it might happen but once I moved to the country I realized gad isn’t going anywhere more people like gas and it’s cheaper I like both I think both have their place I just don’t think having everything battery is the way to go and I don’t think it will work
Other problem, splash of gas and your back to work. Dead batteries = downtime. Like driving a Tesla cross country, you'd have to be touched in the head to buy battery anything aside from basic hand tools or a flashlight.
@@TheSaw410 that is true after a couple of mean cuts your battery dies quickly to just have 3 good batteries for that saw your looking at 600,dollars and not to mention when it really cold outside the batteries are weaker and you can damage then in the cold
Hey man. Have you ever tried using punctuation in your writing? Not only does it make your comment easier to read and understand, but it has the added benefit of making you look half-way intelligent! But I agree: battery-operated is significantly more expensive - but you’re also paying for convenience and ease of use.
No such thing as “user error” with you two. By far the most thorough looks at equipment on the web and the most credible people. Stihl is lucky to have you ; and vicey- versey.
I would love to see y’all, compare that electric saw to the Dewalt 20 inch electric flex volt saw it is fantastic and I think it is probably a better value since it is nowhere near as expensive but I would love to see how they compare
You often get what you pay for. These cheaper saws are often built with cheaper materials. I’ve experienced this first hand. Stihl intended for the MSA-300 to be a professional-grade saw. I suspect that if we open it, we’d see the same kind of construction we’d see in its other professional saws.
I think it’s more about convenience. I don’t cut a lot of trees. When I do, my Husqvarna 455 usually has carburetor issues because it sits unused for so long. Lately I have been using a Dewalt battery chainsaw and smaller dewalt pruning chainsaw because they are ready to go as soon as I put a battery in them. I think the same would be true for the Stihl chainsaw. If you’re already using Stihl batteries, these saws would be awesome. You can have a lot of power without worrying about ethanol fuel damage in your small engine. The Stihl battery platform is great for maintenance. Just plug in what you need. Chainsaw, pruner, hedge trimmer, string trimmer or blower. They’re not “better” for every situation. But in some setups, they’re perfect. $0.02 Oh yeah, great video. Thanks again
Considering I went through a combined half dozen tanks of fuel in my MS261, MS461 and MS661 to cut up the last maple tree I worked on, that battery saw is a non-starter for me... Granted it was a big tree (about 54" DBH) and I sectioned it for firewood... 🤪
I have the MSA300 for almost 2 years, yes sure is a joy powerful saw but is like a Mustang GT with gas tank in reserve. The AP500S battery is not up to the saw for a professional use. With 4 AP500S and 3 AP300S batteries and the charger AL500 plugged in from the start I run out of power cutting from a pile of logs.Wish I with have more battery time.
@@mainstreetmower I am not a professional that run forestry work, just cut some firewood for my self and help some friends. I have the MSA220C, 161T, GTA26, MSA300 and the Trimmer 135. Al machines are great wish I can say the same in regard to the batteries running time, this before they need to recharge. i use to have 3 gas powered chainsaws I sale 2 and just keep my very old hausky 162 for memory it still in top condition but I not even use it anymore.
@@mainstreetmower One thing I can tell you, I believe have worked with this machines way, way harder of the manufacturer recommendation so far never have any problem, I have total confidence in the machines, to bad battery technology isn't a match for professional use and I have multiple batteries from AP200 to AP500S.
In 1988 they found it cost AU $1.92 to drive an electric car across Australia. The power cord that came with it cost $1.2 million. Have a super day mate. Glenn
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I think both are great saws but gas will be more efficient because you wont have to have charge time and im sure the batteries are expensive. But both are great
Using the MSA300 this time around was my first ever crack at it. Honestly, I headed into it with a personal preference for gas, and specially for the MS 271. Using the 300 for the 1st time however changed a few things though. You gotta try it for yourself. You might not make a switch to battery right away, but trust me it might change your perspective a little.
These two saws are essentially the same - one being has and the other electric. Certainly their performance is nearly identical. Not sure why Stihl compares the MSA-300 to the MS-261, and not the 271.
Looks more viable than I thought, I see the costs are prohibitive though, get a great petrol saw for 1/3 the price and for me I love the petrol saws. Inevitable I suspect, but I'll hold out for as long as I can :-).
Thanks for the great review gents. There are many things to consider when making a choice between accepting the MSA300 over the MS271. First hurdle is familiarity with combustion engines Versus brushless electric motors (this is a change in culture and knowledge for us) and how we accept change and get left behind in technology. Years ago I used a farmboss and 090 to cut fence posts and firewood but as I got older I now use a MSA220C-B (battery saw) because now I don't have to pull a rope to start it, fuel never goes foul, and I can use my battery chainsaw in a 'confined shed or other non vented space' to cut up firewood in winter when it raining outside, I can loan it to a mate (and not have it returned with straight fuel in the tank and a buggered piston) I can charge the batteries using my solar charge system. I don't carry two stroke fuel in my vehicle any longer and the MSA300 is always charged and ready to cut. But, if it's raw power I want then the battery saw will fall behind and to buy extra batteries is very expensive. But it depends on your usage.
The only problem is the price of a msa 300 it’s 1200 dollars and that’s with one battery if I got 2 batteries thats 1500 dollars that’s almost the price of a ms 661 and the ms 271 your comparing is only 500 dollars I would much rather get the gas it’s just way cheaper in the end
Agree totally with your comment. My concern is that the market is going to stop making gas anything.
@@user-DR.James87 that was my concern for a while but it just won’t work I used to live in the city and that’s when I thought it might happen but once I moved to the country I realized gad isn’t going anywhere more people like gas and it’s cheaper I like both I think both have their place I just don’t think having everything battery is the way to go and I don’t think it will work
Other problem, splash of gas and your back to work. Dead batteries = downtime. Like driving a Tesla cross country, you'd have to be touched in the head to buy battery anything aside from basic hand tools or a flashlight.
@@TheSaw410 that is true after a couple of mean cuts your battery dies quickly to just have 3 good batteries for that saw your looking at 600,dollars and not to mention when it really cold outside the batteries are weaker and you can damage then in the cold
Hey man. Have you ever tried using punctuation in your writing? Not only does it make your comment easier to read and understand, but it has the added benefit of making you look half-way intelligent!
But I agree: battery-operated is significantly more expensive - but you’re also paying for convenience and ease of use.
No such thing as “user error” with you two. By far the most thorough looks at equipment on the web and the most credible people. Stihl is lucky to have you ; and vicey- versey.
😎✌️thanks for you support Dan!
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I would love to see y’all, compare that electric saw to the Dewalt 20 inch electric flex volt saw it is fantastic and I think it is probably a better value since it is nowhere near as expensive but I would love to see how they compare
Thanks for the suggestion Matt. We will try to get our hands on one.
You often get what you pay for. These cheaper saws are often built with cheaper materials. I’ve experienced this first hand. Stihl intended for the MSA-300 to be a professional-grade saw. I suspect that if we open it, we’d see the same kind of construction we’d see in its other professional saws.
Me to, just for the knowledge sense I have the MSA300 I like to try it against any other brand.
Your videos are very helpful. Keep up the great work, gentlemen.
Thank you Charlotte!
I think it’s more about convenience. I don’t cut a lot of trees. When I do, my Husqvarna 455 usually has carburetor issues because it sits unused for so long. Lately I have been using a Dewalt battery chainsaw and smaller dewalt pruning chainsaw because they are ready to go as soon as I put a battery in them.
I think the same would be true for the Stihl chainsaw. If you’re already using Stihl batteries, these saws would be awesome. You can have a lot of power without worrying about ethanol fuel damage in your small engine. The Stihl battery platform is great for maintenance. Just plug in what you need. Chainsaw, pruner, hedge trimmer, string trimmer or blower. They’re not “better” for every situation. But in some setups, they’re perfect.
$0.02
Oh yeah, great video. Thanks again
Abosultely agreed. Great points there.
Awesome thanks for showing us boys
Thanks for watching!
Considering I went through a combined half dozen tanks of fuel in my MS261, MS461 and MS661 to cut up the last maple tree I worked on, that battery saw is a non-starter for me... Granted it was a big tree (about 54" DBH) and I sectioned it for firewood... 🤪
Must have been one hell of a job
With MSA300 cutting dry death oak about 45 cm diameter and using the 18" bar with a new chain 12 cuts and the AP500 S Battery is out of power.
I have the MSA300 for almost 2 years, yes sure is a joy powerful saw but is like a Mustang GT with gas tank in reserve. The AP500S battery is not up to the saw for a professional use. With 4 AP500S and 3 AP300S batteries and the charger AL500 plugged in from the start I run out of power cutting from a pile of logs.Wish I with have more battery time.
That's good to know, very interesting info. Are you running a fully battery rig?
@@mainstreetmower I am not a professional that run forestry work, just cut some firewood for my self and help some friends.
I have the MSA220C, 161T, GTA26, MSA300 and the Trimmer 135. Al machines are great wish I can say the same in regard to the batteries running time, this before they need to recharge.
i use to have 3 gas powered chainsaws I sale 2 and just keep my very old hausky 162 for memory it still in top condition but I not even use it anymore.
That's awesome man. Thank you for sharing @@sirvozelo1
@@mainstreetmower One thing I can tell you, I believe have worked with this machines way, way harder of the manufacturer recommendation so far never have any problem, I have total confidence in the machines, to bad battery technology isn't a match for professional use and I have multiple batteries from AP200 to AP500S.
In 1988 they found it cost AU $1.92 to drive an electric car across Australia.
The power cord that came with it cost $1.2 million.
Have a super day mate.
Glenn
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Seems like a really good saw but only something you'd need for certain jobs
This particular saw felt like it was super close being as good as gas.
how long ms 271 full tank range can run
I think both are great saws but gas will be more efficient because you wont have to have charge time and im sure the batteries are expensive. But both are great
Using the MSA300 this time around was my first ever crack at it. Honestly, I headed into it with a personal preference for gas, and specially for the MS 271. Using the 300 for the 1st time however changed a few things though. You gotta try it for yourself. You might not make a switch to battery right away, but trust me it might change your perspective a little.
Batteries are expensive?
They are priced like gold. Besides other lower powered ones I buy 4 AP500S and pay 480 Eur. each.
Eco mode probably didn't help. If it uses 1/2 the power but takes twice as long to cut.
Good point
the 271 seems quite slow for a 50cc saw. If you compare the husky 550 with the 271 I realise 550 is a pro saw but what is the Stihl equivalent?
Im not very well aware of the husky 550. But will definitely check it out. Thanks for the suggestion and for watching. 🙂
I like MSA 300🙂 Chainsaw battery👍
Surprisingly powerful isn't it?
@@mainstreetmower yes
@@mainstreetmower Yes it's powerful I have one is a joy machine, to bad the battery technology isn't up to the machine for professional use.
Did he say 027?
You should be wearing your protective chaps gloves and eye protection Stihl says 35 percent of chain saw accidents result in death 😡
Chaps don't function effectively against the torque of a good battery saw. End of complaint.
These two saws are essentially the same - one being has and the other electric. Certainly their performance is nearly identical.
Not sure why Stihl compares the MSA-300 to the MS-261, and not the 271.
Right! exactly my thoughts too
Looks more viable than I thought, I see the costs are prohibitive though, get a great petrol saw for 1/3 the price and for me I love the petrol saws.
Inevitable I suspect, but I'll hold out for as long as I can :-).
Absolutely fair. And totally agree on the surprising power the electric saw has!
Thanks for the great review gents. There are many things to consider when making a choice between accepting the MSA300 over the MS271. First hurdle is familiarity with combustion engines Versus brushless electric motors (this is a change in culture and knowledge for us) and how we accept change and get left behind in technology. Years ago I used a farmboss and 090 to cut fence posts and firewood but as I got older I now use a MSA220C-B (battery saw) because now I don't have to pull a rope to start it, fuel never goes foul, and I can use my battery chainsaw in a 'confined shed or other non vented space' to cut up firewood in winter when it raining outside, I can loan it to a mate (and not have it returned with straight fuel in the tank and a buggered piston) I can charge the batteries using my solar charge system. I don't carry two stroke fuel in my vehicle any longer and the MSA300 is always charged and ready to cut. But, if it's raw power I want then the battery saw will fall behind and to buy extra batteries is very expensive. But it depends on your usage.
Love this. Made some excellent points there.
Re the battery version, is the bar length fixed or can you change it yourself from say a 20 inch to a 14?
We have a video on everything you need to know about chains, bars, & sprockets. Check it out by searching for it on our channel, it might be useful.
My MSA300 comes with a 16" bar and I change for 18", no problem. The real problem is the AP500S battery isn't up to the saw for professional use.