Terminator What If...Reese FAILED to save Sarah?
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2020
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This video explores the alternate reality where Kyle Reese failed to save Sarah Connor at Tech Noir from the Terminator. - Фільми й анімація
Way to turn Kyle Reese into the Resistance equivalent of the original T-800’s remaining arm and smashed processor. A neat “What If” the T-800 succeeded in its mission.
This should have been the plot to Genysis.
Dark fate
This would be amazing and original. Props to the man who made this video
My guess is they probably still would've fucked the movie up
Genysis was gonna suck either way.
@@User-sb6erdefinitely should’ve been a dark fate one
Now this deserves the title of Dark Fate, and in more ways than one
If this was the real “Dark Fate” movie version of this “What If” video, with Kyle Reese being main protagonist of the movie.
Instead of some new random character that, no one really cares about or asks for.
This video needs a sequel 🔥
imagine if the terminator missed and Kyle Shot Sarah.
That actually crossed my mind but for a much different scenario.
Lol butterfingers
Holy shit, i ve never thought about this possibility. What an amazing movie it could be.
Not gonna lie, I thought this was gonna be dumb but it's actually really interesting! You got a sub!
Thank you, I do my best.
This is the dark fate we deserved not that shitstain we got... rev 9 dont make me laugh.. this story was absolutely brilliant really well done tech com dude 😂
hell they should employ you to write the next movie you would do a much better job than any the previous disasters i loved this!! you earned that sub
Thank you, and yes I may not be the genius that is James Cameron but I like to think that as a fan of Terminator I have good creative ideas for how to expand the series without going crazy. This was me retelling the movie by taking some focus off of Sarah and making it a grudge match between Kyle Reese & The Terminator. My idea for Dark Fate is definitely along these lines but I also have a few other ideas and twists.
If this was the real “Dark Fate” movie version of this “What If” video, with Kyle Reese being main protagonist of the movie.
Instead of some new random character that, no one really cares about or asks for.
This feels like a video essay from 2006
That is a great version of what if, still better than Dark Fate.
If this was the real “Dark Fate” movie version of this “What If” video, with Kyle Reese being main protagonist of the movie.
Instead of some new random character that, no one really cares about or asks for.
Plot twist:The man was a terminator that blocked Kyle.The terminator shot at him to make it look like he was a human.
LOL, didn't think of that.
Yes kyle finally gets to be the hero
He still was in the original movie.
If this was the real “Dark Fate” movie version of this “What If” video, with Kyle Reese being main protagonist of the movie.
Instead of some new random character that, no one really cares about or asks for.
Depending how old Reese was when he first came back in time and failed, maybe he would be too much old to be able to lead anything...
A possible approach could be the delivering of the terminator remains to some kind of authority after he managed to destroy it and convince them the dangers of continuing with the skynet project instead of leaving the terminator parts behind as Sarah did, letting Dyson's crew recovered the parts and speeding up the development of the micro processor that became skynet's heart...
Not to mention the fact that two Kyle Reeses could coexist at the same time...
To answer the age issue, we first need to determine if Genisys is cannon. Ifnit is, he was born in 2004, the final battle is in 2029. Mak9ng hom netween 24 and 26, call it 25.
That's 45 years, mKing him about 70 YO, under this timeline. That's plausible, as a soldier he would know how to stay in fighting shape.
Granted, surviving that long, in that world, would lower the odds, but it is plausible.
We also know that Reese is born after 29 August, 1997, so we had no set birth year, prior to that, er, film? And many don't see it as cannon. With good reason.
It's seen as the worst for a reason.
But if in this new version of the future Kyle Reese is the leader of the Resistance, then Skynet would have no knowledge of any Sarah Connor or John Connor because they wouldn't exist. So Skynet would never try to assassinate Sarah Connor. It might try to kill Kyle Reese's mother since now he's the main rival of the machines. Not to mention that there would be two Kyle Reese persons in this new timeline.
Grandfather paradox
Very interesting, even if kyle Reese fails his mission, in fact he's the one important, he knows about skynet existence, and if he has a son with a random woman, that can be John Connor as well,and train him as Sarah could do in the original one. It is just my opinion 😅
This had so much potential....cause with Sarah dead , reese would have made it his mission to get revenge and this could have created a new timeline in which reese and the t800 would have bee hunting each other and possibly the t800 being discovered by cyberdyne and reese creating a new resistance in the years following Sarah's death and in that could have let to a new story ...why they never though about this I'll never know but I'm smh.
Great fucking story man. Loved this.
This video was fantastic, from start to finish.
Thanks, I do my best.
Who's to say this didn't happen in one of the timelines of Terminator 1? For all we know this what if scenario in this video could have been with what happened the first time the Terminator and Kyle Reese went back in time. After all Terminator 1 did happen at least multiple times prior to the version we see on screen.
I always wanted a channel like yours that tells about the terminator lore.
Don't let me stop you.
Old Man Kyle took a huge risk there, winning the Future War, but then deciding to go back in time and change the past again. Sure, we know from watching the first film that Young Kyle would succeed in saving Sarah without interference from the Dumb Bearded Guy, but there's no way Old Man Kyle could've known that. This was pretty much a "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" kind of deal. He had an assured victory for the Human Resistance over Skynet in his grasp, and he chose to gamble it all for the life of one woman, and a son that had yet to be born, and might never be born for all he knew.
another thing people seem to forget is kyle reese is also super important to John Connors existence, like sperm determines the gender and it’s possible that as Kyle was a soldier he carries attributes in his genes that make it easier for John to be as great as he is supposed to be
Like his agility and quick decision making
@@operator7209 precisely
Hey man, the game is getting some dlc! Time to get this channel back up and running!
Thanks for the reminder!
You mean to say that the T-800 killed "the bearded man"?? Does this mean no Dark Fate??
James Cameron dead noooo AVATAR greatest movie all time and no Terminator 2
@@RobertK1993 I wish James Cameron would make the terminator franchise better than ever and direct and write
Well! That was an interesting take on things, and actually worth 27 minutes of my life.
I actually thoroughly enjoyed this start to finish, good work!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
then the terminator would set up a draper business up and the fight sky net because it was a threat to its franchise kerls drapes.
Now THAT'S just silly.
@@TechCom101 that was basicly the sub sub sub plot for dark fate
@@torquetheprisoner Like I said, silly.
What if kyle Reese Is still Alive in Terminator 2
There’s a spooky deleted scene in T2 where Reese visited Sarah at Pescadero Asylum in a dream, warning her about young John Connor being in danger.
@@maxfieldstanton5005depends on which of the 3 versions you watch. Deleted from the theatrical cut, it's in the extended and ultimate editions, with the ultimate having an alternate ending as well.
This would make for a great terminator movie one worth watching and have Micheal Bien return as Kyle Reese
The wallpaper in the background looks like one of the background Arts from the Terminator Sega CD game .I'm a game designer and one of my personal projects recreate terminator Sega CD
Indeed, the background at the end is indeed from The Terminator (Sega CD). I look forward to your recreation.
@@MegaJetty1 cool I contact when I have a working prototype game . IF you get a moment please feel free to check out the videos I have on my channel . One of my Projects is Called Cyber Raid . That game was my final project for my bachelor's degree and I drew a lot of inspiration from The Terminator I can also provide you with download link if you'd like to play it
That's... Actually pretty good JOB. And the fact the you followed the rule about time duplicate (and its death) is pretty great detail
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Really well done, man. I love it. I dig the Novel-Style description of the scenes. You do a great job explaining the possible outcome of the alternate timeline of Sara being terminated, preventing John from ever being born. Reminds me of a classic Marvel Comics What if.....? Issue. Also, I like how you mentioned Jacob Rivers from the Terminator: Resistance game.
Yeah, everyone keeps thinking if Sarah dies it's automatically game over but she's the mother of the future, Reese is the father and as long as he can stay alive long enough, he can also lead the Resistance like John did and undo his mistake. It was inspired by the Terminator 3: Redemption game where he failed to protect Kate & John. Next vid will be "Terminator What If...Cyberdyne's alarm WASN'T tripped?".
@@TechCom101 Indeed. Nice! I look forward to it.
Nice, love these style vids!
Omg....u nailed it mate..
I wish this would have ended in cinema... well done...
Wonderful video. Love the novel-like approach.
Thanks, dude. I actually did take some of the text from the original Frakes & Wisher novel of The Terminator. The stuff that wasn't I made up on the spot and mixed it in. While I do feel it was a little long with my novel approach, I didn't want my first "What If" to be a simple rushed explanation; even if it would've taken less time to make.
i remember u were discussing this during my stream, lol. left some support
Thanks, dude! Hope you enjoyed it!
Thank god that didn’t happened in the movie
Yeah, woulda been even darker.
That’s about all you will want to thank god for in this sh*tty world
so this is Dark fate but not John its Sarah
Yeah, and I like to think it's better told than That-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Mentioned.
This was fantastic 👏 👌 🙌
As far as I'm concerned this actually happened lol. It fits with the official story as presented. And it shows that there really is no fate except what we make for ourselves. A thousand scenarios played out in many Alternative Timelines. But one fate... The fate we (James Cameron) made... The events of T1 and T2... Was the only one where Judgement Day was averted entirely.
Have got a question sir what could have a happen if Kyle Sarah and John Connor survived JD this qst has been bothering me if you provide me with answers I will be grateful
@@edwardkamau773 Kyle Reese would likely die early in the war given that Sarah died in 2002 from unknown circumstances. But since they're together this might not necessarily be the case. Sarah and Reese would have to stay away from John in order to not interfere with young Kyle Reese's development as he still needs to go back in time and save Sarah. Old Reese and Sarah would do what they could against Skynet becoming unsung heroes in the War against the Machines. If they elected to change history they would probably lead the Human Resistance.
@@richardched6085 this would mean Old Reese and Young Reese would exist in the same timeline.
Wouldn't this cause a sort of paradox? There isn't any original timeline anymore. I don't think there ever was.
The only solution for this is many worlds hypothesis.
If Young Reese dies before being sent back.... Old Reese ceases to exist. No Reese means no Connor.
Everything ends.
@@Steve-yn3cs Hard to say since time-traveling into the past is impossible. Not in the way that we don't have the technology for it, but it breaks the laws of physics. Time-traveling into the future, however, IS possible. The physics support it, we just don't have the technology yet.
I think I read somewhere that his programming mandates he find somewhere quiet and simply lay low or even deactivate/sleep mode until the apocalypse.
I loved this you did an amazing job.....but i don't think reese would have been a threat at all....the t-800 probably would have hid until judgment day.
Perhaps, still, it was the route I explored since it's possible that he could hinder it's future by doing what John did.
All in all, i be singing "brand new lover" in all the battles i be in...yowza!🎉
They could totally make this movie.
The Terminator is a futuristic English professor gunning down everyone with word crimes.
Soo good i enjoyed this
you just earned a new subscriber.
You should do one where it involves if the t1000 was good and the t800 was bad would’ve had a different view see what your thoughts on that would be
Well probably that probably might end the time loop and you get a new alternate reality or a brand new timeline
Terminator what if John Connor Never killed
Wonder how different it could have played out if older kyle would not perish the 2nd time around. Be able to heal up and able to help again later on
Something else when watching the elevator scene in T2. When they get out of the elevator how would it turn out if one of them pressed a different floor before leaving? By time T1000 comes through the ceiling the elevator’s moving up while the three escape.
He would,ve become a drapery salesman, or dry cleaner or something. Married & had pletonic relationship with this woman, grown a beard & sat around doing nothing. Lol 🤣🤣 LoL 😂😂.
Negative, it's not a mission priority.
Amazing bro
Why thank you.
They should make this a movie
Great job bro , they should do an r-rated animated movie of this :)
Now THAT would be awesome.
This would make for a good movie
Thanks, glad you approve.
Who's to say this wasn't what originally happened?
He couldn't fail, because according to John Conner's past, Reese already did it. John was sending him back to do what John already knew he did. There would be no way to fail, no choice to do what you are going to do when you do it. His actions only go the way they go and he wouldn't be able to do it any different, because there was no other different way but only the way it went. If you mean what if it went a different way. Then Reese wouldn't have even been sent back and there would be an endless amount scenarios of what would or could happen. It would be like saying, "What would have happened in my families lineage if my great grandparents never met. Well, there's an endless amount of things that could have happened, but it's not worth thinking about all of it or really any of it for that matter, because there is nothing you can focus on, as there are endless directions to go in and make up.
I left the above comment just because of the title alone, but I see what you did. You made up a new story. It was interesting and pretty imaginative.
From what I understand, that's not how Terminator's time travel rules work. As Bruce said in Avengers Endgame "if you travel to the past, that past becomes your future and your former present becomes the past, which can't now be changed by your new future". This is exactly what's going on in the Terminator franchise.
Basically, Kyle can fail at protecting Sarah. John can die at the handa of the T-1000. John's lieutenants can die (which was shown in Terminator 3). Whatever happens in the past doesn't matter, and for some reason, Skynet, John Connor everyone else didn't understand that. So yeah, everything that has happened in every Terminator movie has all been pointless by the looks of it.
@@XenoTronusWeePoo850
Except in the Terminator, if the past becomes your future and it's a time loop paradox, what ever you already did in the past is already done, so everything is set and can not be changed. That's what the rule is about, a paradox. That's what the Terminator movie presented in the plot written for the movie. That's how a time loop paradox works and/or that is the time travel rules that were set up in the first Terminator and then those rules weren't followed in the other movies. Kyle can't fail to protect Sarah, because he already protected Sarah. Time tells us that it all already happened. Sarah knows Kyle protected her in 1884, that's what John knows and that's why John sends Kyle back. John knows Kyle's destiny, because it's all been done already, it's just carried out to fulfill what was already done. There was no other way of doing what couldn't be changed.
Nothing would have happened. It is a movie.
This is excellent.
Thanks. I appreciate it.
@@TechCom101 something I've always wondered, who is the homeless guy? It seems strange to me that kyle would just go up and take his pants from him. I wonder if he's a resistance fighter who was sent earlier, or a previously sent Kyle. I'd like to get your thoughts on that.
@@2tonimage I always just assumed he was a resident of 1984, tho maybe he WAS Old Man Reese. I honestly didn't consider THAT. Thanks.
Then there wouldn't have been all these 'great follow ups' in cinema history.. And that would just be SO saad.. 😏
Love the vid i got a suggestion could u do a wat if Kyle reese survived terminator 1
Ask and you shall receive...in time.
Yes that would be awesome
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@@MegaJetty1 yo bro u r a GOD thx aton
No problemo.
What if the t-1000 was sent to protect John Conner I think that would be a great what if and what if the t-x from terminator 3 was sent to protect Kathryn Brewster I really thing that would be cool if the terminator movies kelp old Arnie as the bad guy
I actually have something like those in mind...
You'd be hard pressed reprogramming a T1000 for protection of a human asset.
Even though it's a Skynet product, it is built with its own set of guidelines that, for the most part, coincide with Skynets motives.
It doesn't just assimilate orders and carry out a mission like a T800.
It's brain is always evolving and developing better and more efficient ways of eliminating humans.
It's so dangerous, that if it's liquid brain mathematically determines that Skynet is no longer the best chance for success, it could challenge it for command and possibly win.
@@paradigm_sh1ft532 Very true, tho one has to wonder, what would happen if the T-1000's brain evolved to the extent Uncle Bob did when his CPU was reset? Would it come to see Skynet being bad and be willing to protect John?
@@TechCom101 I don't know.
When a T800 programmed by Skynet kills, it is completely bereft of any emotion. Tech-Noir, the LAPD massacre; people just got in the way and it carried on its pursuit.
Same for when one was programmed by John to protect him. It just stood there and took the bullets. It didn't feel heroic or like a martyr. It had orders, it will carry them out, no matter the cost.
Neither one showed any emotion regarding their mission, one way or another.
The T1000, on the other hand, has a touch of sadism about it. Notice it's expression when it kills someone; it tilts it's head slightly, as if to show interest and awarness of what it does. The way it observes how it's target dies or suffers. It savours the kill.
The T800 follows the commands of whomever programs it. It's not an inherently evil machine.
The T1000 was born to look down on all those inferior to it, man and machine.
I think that the more time it spent around humans, the more disdain it would develop for them.
But that's just my take on their inner workings!
You do great work. I'd like to see many of your ideas put into practice. 👍
@@paradigm_sh1ft532 Thanks, I'll do my best to implement them in a way that's believable and true to the lore.
Very awesome
I remember looking this up someone already has a logical answer
The Terminator did not know which Sarah Connor was correct and it would've just kept searching for people with the same name and killing them for as long as it could
Can you make video about timeline paradoxes, time line loops, boot strap paradox. The series "DARK" has their theory time travel. Also Terminator 1, the machine will be in Read Only, so I know how Terminator will switch his priorities to eliminate Kyle Reese when his mission is complete
What's not explained are alternate timelines. Let's assume if someone went back in time and had knowledge of future sporting events outcomes, made large bets, and became a millionaire overnight, will that create an alternate universe?
Yes and no.. The machines will still do what they do. An kill 98.9 of humanity.. At least the rich person well have a Bunker.. "But if it's us" meaning our timeline.. Nothing much not unless you're evil and into politics..
I actually have something in mind for my rewrite of Terminator: Genesis, yes, I'm re-spelling it correctly as well.
I'm glad Reese Saved Sarah or we wouldn't have Terminator 2 which was a masterpiece of a sequel
Amazing
Thanks
Damn man, this is dark.
who wrote this alt fiction? This is GREAT!
But the dumb bearded guy - James Cam- cam- cam... eron?
2:45 - 3:17
It’s was Don Jon , this is Genysis . ⚡️🎊📡
some of the acting on this channel is cringe but the stories are AWESOME.
make more content.
U gotta make more videos brother
I would love to, the past year was rough. Barely ad time to make videos on my main channel.
@@TechCom101 well I rather have no video than a a fucking shit post that looks like it was made in 2005
This would be a pretty good What If,What if kyle never found got a gun.What would he do?
Probably fail.
It's L.A during the 80s
There are guns everywhere! 😅
what if he didn't shag sarah conner
This was pretty kool, but wasnt it two grandfather paradoxes in one ? but then the whole movies franchise is that really, so Its all good
I try not to think of the paradoxes, it just makes things more confusing.
I like it like the movie hell yeah!!! Very Interesting and something new better than the last 2 garbage terminator movies(genesis/dark fate)!!
Thanks, I do my best.
Agreed!
Dark Fate wasn’t a bad movie, but definitely was the worse sequel.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
James cameron caused her to die 😂
Within the cannpn of the movie, this scene has always bothered me. The T 800 rackibg the slide to chamber a round. It's never made sense to me.
First, we see a mag change at thw apartment. One that he sends the slide home, chambering the top round in tat magazine. But it has to rechamber a round at Tech Noir. As if it unloaded the chamber, and insterted the magazine, on its way there.
It's a precision machine. Trigger discipline would not be an issue. It wouldn't even need the safety to prevent a ND, as it's never going to accidentally press the trigger.
Frankly put, Sarah should have been #3 that night, using logic.
Cool video please welcome your new sub
If this happened SkyNet wouldn’t exist
Skynet still be built at some point
A T800 is in the past. It will give itself up to Cyberdyne for study. We're talking about Skynet here, it understood how the flow of time works & how possible timelines can occur. People seriously need to get this out of their heads of this timeline loop paradox, it's been stated since the very beginning, "no fate but we make", it can't get anymore obvious. 10:55
I never understood if all T-800s look the same how come Reece didn't recognise the Terminator until he drew his gun?
The T-800 is the endoskeleton model and 101 (Arnold) is the skin model number, so a T-800 model 102 or 103 would look like a different person.
@@talibanty3169 in the first Terminator film Reece referers to the Terminator as a model 101 so he's obviously familiar with that model so that still doesn't explain why he didn't recognise it?
@@skully7159 Maybe he knew the endoskeleton and skin model number but hadn’t seen it yet. He did say they were new. Could have been part of his debriefing before time traveling. A few minutes later, he referred to the 600 series with rubber skin as easy to spot. I think it was a goof up with the scriptwriters imo
*Wrong.* , The T-800s do not look the same, The Models 101s Do.
We need New T=100s to restore a new generation of people/Genysis ❤📡🌍🇺🇸😎❄️👼
Didn't he fail? After all Sarah killed the Terminator!
bearded man ahaaha
Kyle would have disappeared because John never sent him back
Time Travelling in Terminator doesn't change the past, it creates a new timeline.
@@Samuello2024 correct! I never understood why people don't get this!
This is just terrible. 🤣
it is impossible since she is a schizophrenic and she is part of the story T(horazine) 800mg/day was her treatment
All in all, i be singing "brand new lover" in all the battles i be in...yowza!🎉