He really only won because of positioning and the qss but having a radiant gs helps too lol. we'll probably see a lot more polymorph bailouts in the future
@@mattt3555that would be poor design, since it negates any possibility for other boards to win. Imagine you getting 10 portal and having literally no way to win?
@@tjulian8343 Oh.. yup you're 100% right, my bad! Slight Side-note, how does OC know it was the sugarcraft reward and not a charm? Is sugercraft always the same rewards?
@@Zinz778 it has a reward table, you'll get a component and some gold, then more gold, components and radiant remover then gold plus champ dup (plus components but my memory is hazy on this) and at last a masterwork thingy that changes one item to radiant (like the prismatic augment) after which you just win the game as the cake joins the battle (plus a tact crown if you care at that point in game), ofc all these are after getting the 7th layer of cake and above
@@Pinshhy So it's predetermined, not a table? A loot table would mean that the rewards are random each time, not the same every time. I guess the item components are technically a table of.. well, the item components 🤣 Though I doubt that's what you meant :p
PSA: If any of you are in this situation and want to block 5 cost polymorph, try to take at least one copy of each 5 cost. Polymorph depends on bag sizes so getting one of each 5 cost means your opponent won't be able to polymorph their 3 star 4 cost into a 3 star 5 cost
honestly, feel like 10 eldritch is harder to get than 3 star 5 cost and should win vs all 3 star 5 costs, in probably around 100 combined games on PBE and live ive seen countless 3 star 5 costs and 1 10 eldritch comp
this season have many augments give 3,4 emblem so reach max 10 eld is not that hard anymore,plus the charms also give spatula,emblem,same emblems in 1 round,etc...
It’s way easier to hit 10 eldritch, as the opponent can’t do anything about you just levelling up to 10. On the opposite, as toast tried to do, you can block the enemy from finding a 3 star 4 cost or 5 cost just by holding 2 copies.
2:40 Toast could have denied the 3 star 5-cost if he bought the Diana, Camille and Morgana in his shop, he would have at least 1 of each 5-cost units so the other player's Major Polymorph would have fizzled istead of transforming Olaf into Diana as there is no 3 star 5-cost available in the pool (there is only 9 of each 5-cost champion) The source on how this interaction works is Leduck's video "How to get a ⭐⭐⭐ Legendary for free" at timestamp 7 : 45
basically the polymorph draws 9 copies out of the bag, and if there is not enough, you are stuck with 8 copies. the possible counter play for this is to save a duplicator or find a duplicator charm if you see your opponent potentially blocking your 3* legendary edit: it does not work :((
@@frostfire-26710 Duplicators also take units from the pool so that doesn't work You also are not stuck with 8 copies of a 5-cost, you just keep your 4-cost unit as it can't get upgraded
@@casualalleypersoni mean 9 multistriker is notthat easy to hit. It is suppost to be good as well. It is like saying: "3 star diana sucks i lost vs 3 star xerath." Edit Also antiheal does not stack 😅
im pretty sure it will still work as it should work the same as champion dup which makes new temporary champion copies into the pool until the unit is sold.
Everyone out here complaining 5 cost 3 star with specific items beats 10 eldritch and how the game is so unbalanced when in reality this interaction would never happen in a game they play XD
Both highrolled a lot, but that guy needs to buy a lottery ticket Sugarcraft 6 into Duplicator, into 3* 4 cost, into that charm THE SAME turn he got Olaf 3 Holy What a game, this is why i love TFT
Duplicator is always guaranteed at 1350 stacks, and the charm is very easy to find given he can immediately sell off the entire rest of his board which is at least 60 gold. The highroll here is finding Olaf and toast not realising he swapped from finding fiora/rakan until too late
Bruh eldritch 10 prismatic trait is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder than doing a 5 cost level 3, specially with those charms in this set. The game is unbalanced haha. I have been trying to unlock prismatic trait with eldritch for the quest, I couldn't do it. I have like more than 100 games focusing on this quest. Level 10 summoners + 3 emblems is way harder than 5 cost level 3. PS : I have done my prismatic trait with portals comp (and tbh it was all RNG cause I was focusing to do eldritch 10)
why is we holding all them 5 costs??? sell them in order to increase the odds of him finding 5 costs instead of 4 costs in the shop ... my bro really doesnt go for a combat charm huh....
He really only won because of positioning and the qss but having a radiant gs helps too lol. we'll probably see a lot more polymorph bailouts in the future
Honestly I think Build a Bud into the polymorph charms might actually be a viable win condition, if a very rng reliant playstyle
10 Eldritch board slam stun should bypass QSS.
@@amiablereapernot possible, there is no charm that raises a 3 cost to a 4 cost. You’d need to have recombopulator for that to happen.
@@mattt3555that would be poor design, since it negates any possibility for other boards to win. Imagine you getting 10 portal and having literally no way to win?
@@autumngrace7742build a bud gives you a 3 star 1 cost tho
the next game after this, he hit 9 faerie with 1 life and got eliminated by the same guy and got 8th. lmao
I think he has some past life karma beef with him that they agreed to sort out in this manner.
My mans over here holding random 4 costs to help his enemy hit
He didnt hit duplicator charm, he got duplicator from sugarcraft reward
Toast misspoke and meant the Major Polymorph charm
@@Zinz778 No, watch 4:54 , he thought it's the duplicator charm.
@@tjulian8343 Oh.. yup you're 100% right, my bad!
Slight Side-note, how does OC know it was the sugarcraft reward and not a charm? Is sugercraft always the same rewards?
@@Zinz778 it has a reward table, you'll get a component and some gold, then more gold, components and radiant remover then gold plus champ dup (plus components but my memory is hazy on this) and at last a masterwork thingy that changes one item to radiant (like the prismatic augment) after which you just win the game as the cake joins the battle (plus a tact crown if you care at that point in game), ofc all these are after getting the 7th layer of cake and above
@@Pinshhy So it's predetermined, not a table? A loot table would mean that the rewards are random each time, not the same every time.
I guess the item components are technically a table of.. well, the item components 🤣 Though I doubt that's what you meant :p
IS THIS RISK OF RAIN OST IN BACKGROUND
A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION PERHAPS?
AND HIS MUSIC WAS ELECTRIC
I WAS ASKING MYSELF THE SAME THING
PSA: If any of you are in this situation and want to block 5 cost polymorph, try to take at least one copy of each 5 cost. Polymorph depends on bag sizes so getting one of each 5 cost means your opponent won't be able to polymorph their 3 star 4 cost into a 3 star 5 cost
or just hold the 4 costs your opponent wants...
@@SonOfAbraham-m8k no, thats way worse because they can have multiple 4 stars lined up and they just need to hit one. The bag size is bigger too
Waiting for someone like LeDuck to confirm the interactions on the live patch.
honestly, feel like 10 eldritch is harder to get than 3 star 5 cost and should win vs all 3 star 5 costs, in probably around 100 combined games on PBE and live ive seen countless 3 star 5 costs and 1 10 eldritch comp
It always wins, problem is he countered eldritch using the cc immunity item
Its still tft , dont even think about balancing at these level of comp its fun and all
this season have many augments give 3,4 emblem so reach max 10 eld is not that hard anymore,plus the charms also give spatula,emblem,same emblems in 1 round,etc...
It’s way easier to hit 10 eldritch, as the opponent can’t do anything about you just levelling up to 10.
On the opposite, as toast tried to do, you can block the enemy from finding a 3 star 4 cost or 5 cost just by holding 2 copies.
@@donglahai9358 look at the stats bro, way more 3 star 5 costs games that eldritch
Not putting the risk of rain 2 OST in the description is criminal
It aint risk of rain 2 its 1
2:40 Toast could have denied the 3 star 5-cost if he bought the Diana, Camille and Morgana in his shop, he would have at least 1 of each 5-cost units so the other player's Major Polymorph would have fizzled istead of transforming Olaf into Diana as there is no 3 star 5-cost available in the pool (there is only 9 of each 5-cost champion)
The source on how this interaction works is Leduck's video "How to get a ⭐⭐⭐ Legendary for free" at timestamp 7 : 45
Does pollymorph take unit from pool?, im pretty sure it doesn't
I put the source on the info in the post, it looks like it does rely on the pool and just doesn't do anything if it can't get you a 3*
basically the polymorph draws 9 copies out of the bag, and if there is not enough, you are stuck with 8 copies.
the possible counter play for this is to save a duplicator or find a duplicator charm if you see your opponent potentially blocking your 3* legendary
edit: it does not work :((
@@frostfire-26710 Duplicators also take units from the pool so that doesn't work
You also are not stuck with 8 copies of a 5-cost, you just keep your 4-cost unit as it can't get upgraded
@@shinsekaimugiwara wait really? I didn't know about that, so thanks for the response.
someone explain to me why the guy healed 20 hp? is it diana3's spell or something?
And then also having the golden remover ready to get qss and giant slayer on diana
Its crazy that you can hit 9 frost 10 Eldritch/portal and still end up only 4th this set
Is it really possible to go 4th with 10 eld/portal?
@@rodrigomoreno3495 It is really possible with 9 Frost/Faerie. Both are kinda suck ass, the only thing that make them viable is the trait augment.
Unfortunately 9 Frost isn't a Prismatic trait, hit it once but the trait colour is still gold and not shinny silver like 10 eldritch or 10 Portal
10 Portal is really ass tho, I lost to a 9 Multistriker with 10 Portal and have 3 anti heal items
@@casualalleypersoni mean 9 multistriker is notthat easy to hit. It is suppost to be good as well. It is like saying: "3 star diana sucks i lost vs 3 star xerath."
Edit
Also antiheal does not stack 😅
it got perma cc'd the first time and he placed a qss on it so it had cc immune
How the hell did this man even hit Emerald 4 with a 6.5 average place finish 😂
If he had just gotten 1 of each 5 cost the charm wouldn't have worked as there would only be 8 in the pool of each
im pretty sure it will still work as it should work the same as champion dup which makes new temporary champion copies into the pool until the unit is sold.
@@proxima8743 it doesnt
@@proxima8743you need to have all 9 copies, if toast held one of each it is impossible
@@Hein.- that got changed. Same with duplicator, it ignores bag size.
@@alexboardman9789 I'm pretty sure the Major Polymorph charm ignores bag size, same as duplicator since set 11.
Giant what?
The qss came in clutch
Whats the song?
3:37
a turkish streamer hit diana 3 to beat 10 eldritch few days ago
Everyone out here complaining 5 cost 3 star with specific items beats 10 eldritch and how the game is so unbalanced when in reality this interaction would never happen in a game they play XD
Both highrolled a lot, but that guy needs to buy a lottery ticket
Sugarcraft 6 into Duplicator, into 3* 4 cost, into that charm THE SAME turn he got Olaf 3
Holy
What a game, this is why i love TFT
Duplicator is always guaranteed at 1350 stacks, and the charm is very easy to find given he can immediately sell off the entire rest of his board which is at least 60 gold.
The highroll here is finding Olaf and toast not realising he swapped from finding fiora/rakan until too late
Bruh eldritch 10 prismatic trait is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder than doing a 5 cost level 3, specially with those charms in this set. The game is unbalanced haha.
I have been trying to unlock prismatic trait with eldritch for the quest, I couldn't do it. I have like more than 100 games focusing on this quest. Level 10 summoners + 3 emblems is way harder than 5 cost level 3.
PS : I have done my prismatic trait with portals comp (and tbh it was all RNG cause I was focusing to do eldritch 10)
why is we holding all them 5 costs??? sell them in order to increase the odds of him finding 5 costs instead of 4 costs in the shop ...
my bro really doesnt go for a combat charm huh....
Is it emerald elo ??
I got a similar game the other guy hit 10 portal and i hit karma 3 and destroyed him
They need to remove The polymorph charms
luckily he still lost, yby1 got morgana 3 and lost to 10 eldritch
Am I fucking stupid or is that a level 8 with Diana 3
There's a charm that transform 4 cost to 5 cost so probably he hit that
Yes you are
Actually both of you
@@bryangarcia948 lmfao
womp womp
Disgusting Eldritch, not broken at all
10 eldritch should beat a 3 star 4-cost.
and it does, it just doesn’t beat 3* 5cost with qss
It did.
You're just bad player.