Abathur Ultimate Evo - Dummies Guide to Abathur! - Gold 2 B2GM Season 4

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  • @rovieriel621
    @rovieriel621 4 роки тому +20

    I’m Abby main and I like troll nest build for all qm :)

  • @packman852
    @packman852 4 роки тому +8

    14:45 is what you're looking for.
    Abby getting in there showing them who's boss

  • @boutinpowered8373
    @boutinpowered8373 4 роки тому +11

    The problem with body soaking is that if you die, you are now behind in xp. Because you are already reducing team fighting, and solo fighting. Since you are spending less time turning solo fights into 2 on 1 fights, are countering ganks less, speeding up camps less, and weakening the smaller team fights that happen outside of main objectives. So when you add that all up. Even if you don't die, the xp gain is reduced by kills and structure damage done by the enemy team. It takes time to manage your body, and the new Abathur changes have reduced stats along with cooldown making it easier to sustain the hat, but also make it less impactful.
    You can still split soak, but use Monstrosities for that most of the time. The Z tunnel that monstrosities get will extend the amount of time it can push by letting you swap lanes. Think of it like playing badmington or tennis. You make them run to one far location so you can hit the other location. It won't be a 40 stack Monstrosity but it will add to your pushes without reducing your hats on teammates too much. Much more valuable than always cloning. Clones can be awesome for a short time, but so is keeping teammates alive. If they die because you don't have a hat shielding them, finishing their kills, discouraging enemies, or speed boosting their mobility, then how is a temporary clone a good swap for that? So make sure you know when to grab clone, because it's not all the time. Smart players ignore clones and target the squishies of a now four man team with a fifth man on a timer.
    And don't assume that you body soaking is why xp is higher. If you are hatting teammates, then your team xp will be higher because they will be more aggressive, push enemies away more, kill more, reduce the times they hearth back, and deal structure damage. This is regardless of your body soaking. So make sure that if you do body soak, its because you absolutely need to squeeze every last drop of xp for a short amount of time, or want to increase the longevity of your locusts by reducing their travel time. It will average out as more reliable xp in your games and make a better play experience for you and your team.

    • @Morallis77
      @Morallis77 4 роки тому

      Nice info, thanks.
      I love playing Aba, but there is always something new to learn.

    • @minaminaminar1
      @minaminaminar1 4 роки тому

      Mucho texto

    • @boutinpowered8373
      @boutinpowered8373 4 роки тому +2

      @@arnaudthouvenot929 That strategy assumes your opponents won't do the right thing and ignore your clone. Clones aren't too hard to spot. I think cloning is best with natural CC characters. Letting you have an impact regardless of your stats. The CC in turn will reduce the damage on your team and increase their damage on the enemy, which is what you hat for anyways. So it's a good swap using those parameteres.

    • @boutinpowered8373
      @boutinpowered8373 3 роки тому +2

      @@arnaudthouvenot929 I would rather just hat the original and kill multiple squishies and tanks alike while my monstrosity takes a lane at the same time. I haven't used clone in rank so far. I'm not Platinum yet as I can only play so many games a day but I am 80% win rate with this playstyle in gold, so I'll stick with what works (probably try for Plat next season, maybe grind for lvl 200, we'll see). You'll notice how fan died twice this game. That's xp given to the opponent while not gaining any more xp than he would had he sat behind a wall or fort mid lane and had better reach with his mines, that's on top of the xp loss from time spent moving his body around. The reason for this is that if your opponent leaves a lane open, you can just mine and spike burst it for that xp in far less time with less risk. Body soaking no longer has value since the xp globes outside of soaking near gates, not that the value was all that worth it to begin with. The majority of my wins in ranked can be attributed in part to monstrosity, the other part is having voice chat to take advantage of your map awareness as an Abathur player. If this was a less team oriented game where individuals could do better using more skillshots then maybe clone would have a better chance. But you have to remember that players in ranked all have favourites. You want to put a clone up against someone who plays mostly that hero, and expect them to waste heroics on an obvious clone? Or a solo hero? They wait for team fights which they draw out for an advantage. If I can outplay people as a Monstrosity then what can a Master do with their prefered champion? You want to play Abathur once a month fine, go clone, but if you play him regularly then learn to Monster. Play some Murky and Lucio too while you're at it. Some Ana won't hurt either. If you can land Ana shots then you can hat. It's a little harder since the host moves as well when hatting and the shots move slower, but it's a good practice tool either way.
      Just don't Abathur in Bronze unless you're a masochist. If you can, place in Silver to start with another hero as a bruiser. Then Abathur.
      Edit: And play lots of QM games. Regardless of losses, those will give you experience in all situations.

  • @Presssent
    @Presssent 4 роки тому +3

    I clicked this in .01 seconds as I was having flashbacks to my only
    Abathur game.

  • @osogarra3968
    @osogarra3968 3 роки тому

    Loved loved loved that video explanation

  • @LegitCactus
    @LegitCactus 4 роки тому +3

    I've found that when i play aba i tell people i wont hat them or play to expect not to get it so people dont overextend and i instead supplement their dmg/survivablilty and it works pretty well since theyre playing like im not there in these ranks

  • @SwimmingSwaglessShroud
    @SwimmingSwaglessShroud 4 роки тому +16

    Former abathur main....I uninstalled because no team appreciates are existence. I migrated to overwatch because blizzard made echo for us.

    • @getrekt3983
      @getrekt3983 3 роки тому

      our*
      and unless you are good with abather there is nothing to appreciate. are you losing every game you play? are you contributing xp?

  • @andrewmarttini9896
    @andrewmarttini9896 3 роки тому

    Playing Abathur for the last 20games or so has made me appreciate soak ALOT more

  • @AnimeVampire234
    @AnimeVampire234 4 роки тому +2

    that stage dive lolol

  • @cold_viking9502
    @cold_viking9502 4 роки тому

    Is nest build viable, Fan? I liked to play it back in a day (especially against healers like Reghar, or Uther, who can't sustain heal), but now rarely have a chance to do so.

  • @jeremyhorner9531
    @jeremyhorner9531 4 роки тому

    i still prefer split push abby, but ive been having a ton of fun with mine build aba. i had a game recently where i had 15 KBs cause of mines and second highest dmg in game. felt good.

  • @jeffgoes4116
    @jeffgoes4116 3 роки тому +1

    Sir very nice guide! Just a question. what do u mean by "body soak"? u let the enemy minions attack you so your minions don't die? is that it?

    • @FanHOTS
      @FanHOTS  3 роки тому +1

      No just to get the exp globes with your body. Abathur usually gets exp with his hat so that is hat soaking, but if its safe you can body soak 1 lane and hat soak another, which lets him soak 2 lanes at the same time.

  • @nothankyouYouTube420
    @nothankyouYouTube420 4 роки тому +3

    Those glasses are a filter?

  • @djoakeydoakey1076
    @djoakeydoakey1076 4 роки тому +2

    He's a lover man....ABBA

  • @deadeyejac
    @deadeyejac 3 роки тому +1

    I would like more discussion about strategies. Example: I'm now doing _________ because ____________ .

  • @jell-orodriguez2792
    @jell-orodriguez2792 4 роки тому +1

    Thank yee

  • @idesofmars
    @idesofmars 3 роки тому

    what are you pressing to cancel the hat?

  • @BadassRockets
    @BadassRockets 4 роки тому

    wish it had shown the draft, was he last pick?

  • @emmanuelgutierrez8616
    @emmanuelgutierrez8616 4 роки тому +1

    how are you putting down so many mines all over the map? any time i try over 4, it deletes a past one

    • @FanHOTS
      @FanHOTS  4 роки тому +1

      Level 4 mine talent gives you more mines and makes them last longer i believe.

    • @Jeryyyyyy875
      @Jeryyyyyy875 4 роки тому

      That's now how mines work

  • @KronesX
    @KronesX 4 роки тому

    What headphones u use?

  • @marcusmeins1839
    @marcusmeins1839 3 роки тому

    How are you supposed to beat that dragon with abathur?

  • @DamselBoe
    @DamselBoe 4 роки тому +10

    Yeah, this si my guide

    • @Wolfenstein1942
      @Wolfenstein1942 4 роки тому

      Yeah, Fan just stole your content :D

    • @DamselBoe
      @DamselBoe 4 роки тому +4

      @@Wolfenstein1942 I mean, this is a guide for me haha, a dummie.

  • @txdmsk
    @txdmsk 3 роки тому +4

    This makes way too many rookie Abathur mistakes.

  • @johnzhu8693
    @johnzhu8693 4 роки тому +1

    Right... so pi = 3

  • @adamantz7682
    @adamantz7682 4 роки тому +2

    imo aba body soak is not viable anymore. it just needs one of these in the enemy team: falstadt, dehaka, dw, zag, nova, ktz, etc, hanzo, and lots i forget here. and just one of them needs to want you dead. since you cant soak in bushes anymore, its too risky, and since exp globes stay awhile(which was best change for aba) he rly doesnt need to body soak. he can hat through all the lanes and almost get all the exp. if you think you cant get this one wave fast enough to get to the next, use mines to clear it faster(and get exp with mines) and move on to next lane/wave.

    • @cold_viking9502
      @cold_viking9502 4 роки тому +3

      I think it's still viable for people like Fan, when he has perfect map control and can see enemies, who try to kill him. But its really hard now for less experienced Abas.

  • @angelleyva716
    @angelleyva716 4 роки тому +1

    HI :3

  • @rsfan24
    @rsfan24 4 роки тому

    You should NOT have gotten away from ETC the first time, you deserved the second, lets face it XD

  • @sNsReal
    @sNsReal 3 роки тому

    It took YEARS to not be pinged as afk playing abathur

  • @lebowski3748
    @lebowski3748 4 роки тому

    "Dummies Guide To Abatur" ... oh one more stu...wait...from FAN? *insta click*

  • @redcrusader5168
    @redcrusader5168 4 роки тому +2

    Exp globes ruined the fun sneaking around aspect of Abathur. Now it's just boring- blow them up with mines or do extra healing.

  • @DeuceGenius
    @DeuceGenius 3 роки тому

    haha ETC

  • @Greningas
    @Greningas 4 роки тому

    Im QM only degenerate aba player.
    Monstro > Dragon strike

  • @getrekt3983
    @getrekt3983 3 роки тому

    that was a stupid move why would you cacoon in the open

  • @rovieriel621
    @rovieriel621 4 роки тому +1

    Lol you shoulda bodied butch

  • @getrekt3983
    @getrekt3983 3 роки тому

    this isn't a beginners guide to abather this is "watch me play as abather" click bait as fuck title

  • @MrCalamd
    @MrCalamd 4 роки тому +1

    Are you sneaking in educational content again?! UNSUBBED!

  • @sifumarko
    @sifumarko 4 роки тому

    Ok do not do this... not worth it... stay protected, body soak is not needed, you can do it with hat and mines really fast... also instead of repair drone try shields for everyone... rattack speed is great, clone is great... and thats all u need...

    • @FanHOTS
      @FanHOTS  4 роки тому +2

      🤔

    • @sifumarko
      @sifumarko 4 роки тому

      @@FanHOTS but u do need good hero to boost... If u dont have one thats unfortunate... Still winable though...

    • @Tichondrius-
      @Tichondrius- 4 роки тому +4

      @@arnaudthouvenot929 it's funny when someone trying to teach ex-pro player

  • @finbarshields
    @finbarshields 4 роки тому +1

    worst

    • @Kalleosini
      @Kalleosini 4 роки тому +1

      I think you're looking for the murky video

    • @hako8358
      @hako8358 4 роки тому +1

      Ur mom worst