This is EXACTLY the series of videos that we have been wanting. It isn’t difficult to select the correct home/small business NAS solution if the only criterium is hardware spec to fit identified needs. Once past that, it is software, software, software! In this first of-series offering, NASCompares has been precisely on point by showing on screen and Robbie’s description of like-for-like software. I’d like to see future videos detailing the similarities and differences between Synology’s media treatments (Photos/Audio Station/Video Station), Synology Drive (from both client & host sides), Hyper Backup, Surveillance Station, and Download Station against the analogous QNap software. Is Plex on Synology the same as Plex on QNap?? What about device/data security??? Perhaps one of the final videos of the series could offer a whirlwind software briefing on the less-used platforms, Asustor, Buffalo, Western Digital, etc. This series is a GREAT idea!
Sir, this is the best video you have made imo. Please go through up the end of all the features and I will watch it again and again. Well done and thank you.
Thank you for the support bud! Hugely appreciate whenever someone chooses to throw an extra bit of $ our way. You could have just assumed that the 'ads will take care of it', but you went the extra mile! Thank you for being bloody brilliant, man
Exactly the video I needed to see literally today! Amazing, thank you. Looking at ds923+ as a photographer, considering other options as well so I’m def going to watch this now
You've barely touched on security topic. I know you have in other videos which is why I find this topic missing in this video you make out as if everyone knows about the chaos that QLocker has caused. More importantly the massive lack of any response from QNAP should be an immediate reason for people to forget about QNAP storage devices. I'm assuming video 2 will highlight the massive lack of quality apps on the QNAP side and also there insecurity and lack of cohesion (i.e. you can't just enable DLNA like you can on the Synology, you have to have multiple apps for it i.e. Media Station, etc,). There indexing also kills any speed on copying (and I'm talking at 1Gb speeds - drops from 100MB to 60MB when it's being indexed). Yet with Plex the indexing and copying at the same time is fine. Same with the download station on the QNAP if you want to download off an FTP site you need another app, if you do download then the download speed is significantly slower than other NAS's. It's just like it's been thrown together by someone who has no idea what they're doing. Third party apps, when you can get them, are mostly fine (i.e. Plex). I know I'm bashing the QNAP and I'm a QNAP owner but I wouldn't trust a QNAP connected to the internet for some time. I think you also need to highlight the fact that there are two operating systems out there for the QNAP (QTS / QTS Hero) and the differences they bring. Also that they can't run on all of the range (so if you have an ARM processor, which are awful and yet still pushed by QNAP, then you can't run QTS Hero).
1000%. QNAP has some very attractive devices and powerful (if not also somewhat more confusing) software, but their lack of emphasis on security is why I wouldn't touch one of their devices with a 10' pole.
I see. Would you say that if you are in the market for a new NAS, you will buy QNAP TVS-h674-i5-32G or Synology DiskStation DS1621xs+ - for someone who wants to purchase something that is future-proof, runs Plex, and backups your data (mostly mac) as it should and shares photos and 4K phone videos with family? (possibly run few Wordpress blogs) And why? I have Synology and the thing just runs, does what it should but Qnap is more tempting with power, transcoding, ability to play up to 8K, AI CPU core. Yes, I'm disappointed with the UI and how you said the apps are just a mess. I guess Qnap is not like Synology just set it up and forget it? Would it be that the best of the two words would be to buy your own hardware and build TureNAS Scale? Thanks
Thank you for this video. Just have one quick question. I want to get a nice NAS but they are expensive. Is it worth getting the WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra on sale and then get a Synology when can afford setup want? It comes with drives and could maybe take them out when upgrade to Synology but main concern is that the WD My Cloud will be too slow. It only has 1GB of RAM and ARM processor.
I definitly can‘t see why everybody says synology is ahead of qnap in their software. Yeah you only had to make 3 mouse clicks but what die you get? If you add up all the steps it takes to have the same volume with snapshots their is absolutely no advantage in synology?! You could even argue synology isn‘t even that safe since as a new Nas user you may not even know about snapshots und totaly miss out on it
Synology's hardware is such crap now. Couple that with them basically being the Apple of NAS Vendors (i.e., if it fits into Synology's nice little box it's more user friendly, but if Synology's neat little box can't do it, it's more of a pain to do it than it would be if you weren't stuck inside their neat little box), I wouldn't consider a Synology at all, and I say this as someone who only has a DS918+ as my only NAS.
Yes, but did you see a Qnaps UI, it is not very appealing. Count in board failures, security breaches etc.....Anyway, my point is that Synology is like an Apple. Does what it should. Set it and forget it. It plays iPhone 4K not a thing more. Qnap is like a retarded powerful horse with broken two legs covered in mud. Do I need all that power when I know it will never reliably run? Then Qnap reps tell you there are no plans to revamp UI anytime soon. How do people say, we need Synology with Qnap hardware which I guess will never happen. That's like hoping to have Apple as a gaming PC. I guess because Synology offers crap hardware now we just need to wait for it a bit, until they feel the loss in revenue and do something about it...so basically 2 years from now we can see something decent. Until then 3, 2, 1
I just decided on this recently but went the Synology route for a couple of reasons. I don't want my media system tied to a NAS (just a personal preference) so the CPU not having a GPU to do hardware acceleration isn't a problem. The DS1522+ utilizes ECC, while the possibility of a flipped bit is rare, if it happens to your critical data it isn't a great thing. I feel thought that people are dropping to the CLI on both systems and doing things beyond what Synology wants. While Apple has some missteps, the tight integration of hardware and software is what I value moreso that being able to "do whatever I want", especially for a NAS. If doing whatever you want is truly what you are looking for, why not build your own with something like Unraid, TrueNAS, etc?
@@JarredSutherland Mostly because I’m a “go big or go home” sort, and while I can afford 4, 6, maybe 8 of the biggest hard drive they make, I can’t afford 24 to fully populate say a 3U or 4U SuperMicro chassis. That and a better NAS or server with greater than 1 Gbps connectivity means I’d be best served getting the house wired for Ethernet and putting in a rack for proper PoE switches etc, which is also a lot of expense. But I’d absolutely rather build my own and run TrueNAS Scale now that it finally exists, as I can’t have a server that doesn’t support Docker or makes Docker a pain in the ass like TrueNAS Core. The issue is cost. In the meantime, QNAP and especially Asustor run circles around Synology hardware wise, and I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about any of their crappy first party software beyond basic shit like being able to do automatic backups of my Documents / Pictures folders to Backblaze B2 and taking btrfs or ZFS snapshots, and that works fine on any of them (except for QNAP’s stubborn refusal to support btrfs, which means I refuse to purchase any of their non-ZFS models, as I refuse to use ext4 anymore).
YES YES YES! This is exactly first time buyers need.
This is EXACTLY the series of videos that we have been wanting. It isn’t difficult to select the correct home/small business NAS solution if the only criterium is hardware spec to fit identified needs. Once past that, it is software, software, software! In this first of-series offering, NASCompares has been precisely on point by showing on screen and Robbie’s description of like-for-like software. I’d like to see future videos detailing the similarities and differences between Synology’s media treatments (Photos/Audio Station/Video Station), Synology Drive (from both client & host sides), Hyper Backup, Surveillance Station, and Download Station against the analogous QNap software. Is Plex on Synology the same as Plex on QNap?? What about device/data security??? Perhaps one of the final videos of the series could offer a whirlwind software briefing on the less-used platforms, Asustor, Buffalo, Western Digital, etc. This series is a GREAT idea!
Sir, this is the best video you have made imo. Please go through up the end of all the features and I will watch it again and again. Well done and thank you.
Amazing dedication to a complicated subject thanks for helping me make a decision
Thanks
Thank you for the support bud! Hugely appreciate whenever someone chooses to throw an extra bit of $ our way. You could have just assumed that the 'ads will take care of it', but you went the extra mile! Thank you for being bloody brilliant, man
Extremely helpful for first time NAS use.
Exactly the video I needed to see literally today! Amazing, thank you. Looking at ds923+ as a photographer, considering other options as well so I’m def going to watch this now
Great video, enjoyed watching it and learned a few things. Thanks! It covered everything even and fairly and not to long.
Be good to have a similar comparison with truenas core and truenas scale too
Excellent comparison and super thorough! Thank you.
You've barely touched on security topic. I know you have in other videos which is why I find this topic missing in this video you make out as if everyone knows about the chaos that QLocker has caused. More importantly the massive lack of any response from QNAP should be an immediate reason for people to forget about QNAP storage devices. I'm assuming video 2 will highlight the massive lack of quality apps on the QNAP side and also there insecurity and lack of cohesion (i.e. you can't just enable DLNA like you can on the Synology, you have to have multiple apps for it i.e. Media Station, etc,). There indexing also kills any speed on copying (and I'm talking at 1Gb speeds - drops from 100MB to 60MB when it's being indexed). Yet with Plex the indexing and copying at the same time is fine. Same with the download station on the QNAP if you want to download off an FTP site you need another app, if you do download then the download speed is significantly slower than other NAS's. It's just like it's been thrown together by someone who has no idea what they're doing. Third party apps, when you can get them, are mostly fine (i.e. Plex). I know I'm bashing the QNAP and I'm a QNAP owner but I wouldn't trust a QNAP connected to the internet for some time. I think you also need to highlight the fact that there are two operating systems out there for the QNAP (QTS / QTS Hero) and the differences they bring. Also that they can't run on all of the range (so if you have an ARM processor, which are awful and yet still pushed by QNAP, then you can't run QTS Hero).
1000%. QNAP has some very attractive devices and powerful (if not also somewhat more confusing) software, but their lack of emphasis on security is why I wouldn't touch one of their devices with a 10' pole.
I see. Would you say that if you are in the market for a new NAS, you will buy QNAP TVS-h674-i5-32G or Synology DiskStation DS1621xs+ - for someone who wants to purchase something that is future-proof, runs Plex, and backups your data (mostly mac) as it should and shares photos and 4K phone videos with family? (possibly run few Wordpress blogs) And why? I have Synology and the thing just runs, does what it should but Qnap is more tempting with power, transcoding, ability to play up to 8K, AI CPU core. Yes, I'm disappointed with the UI and how you said the apps are just a mess. I guess Qnap is not like Synology just set it up and forget it? Would it be that the best of the two words would be to buy your own hardware and build TureNAS Scale? Thanks
Thank you for this video. Just have one quick question. I want to get a nice NAS but they are expensive. Is it worth getting the WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra on sale and then get a Synology when can afford setup want? It comes with drives and could maybe take them out when upgrade to Synology but main concern is that the WD My Cloud will be too slow. It only has 1GB of RAM and ARM processor.
I definitly can‘t see why everybody says synology is ahead of qnap in their software. Yeah you only had to make 3 mouse clicks but what die you get? If you add up all the steps it takes to have the same volume with snapshots their is absolutely no advantage in synology?! You could even argue synology isn‘t even that safe since as a new Nas user you may not even know about snapshots und totaly miss out on it
Can anyone summarise this in one comment haha? synology or qnap?
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There has to be a way to keep these videos under 30 mins lol They're helpful but long-winded.
You are here because they're are NO videos like this on UA-cam. Please share the links below if I'm wrong.
Synology's hardware is such crap now. Couple that with them basically being the Apple of NAS Vendors (i.e., if it fits into Synology's nice little box it's more user friendly, but if Synology's neat little box can't do it, it's more of a pain to do it than it would be if you weren't stuck inside their neat little box), I wouldn't consider a Synology at all, and I say this as someone who only has a DS918+ as my only NAS.
Yes, but did you see a Qnaps UI, it is not very appealing. Count in board failures, security breaches etc.....Anyway, my point is that Synology is like an Apple. Does what it should. Set it and forget it. It plays iPhone 4K not a thing more. Qnap is like a retarded powerful horse with broken two legs covered in mud. Do I need all that power when I know it will never reliably run? Then Qnap reps tell you there are no plans to revamp UI anytime soon. How do people say, we need Synology with Qnap hardware which I guess will never happen. That's like hoping to have Apple as a gaming PC. I guess because Synology offers crap hardware now we just need to wait for it a bit, until they feel the loss in revenue and do something about it...so basically 2 years from now we can see something decent. Until then 3, 2, 1
I just decided on this recently but went the Synology route for a couple of reasons. I don't want my media system tied to a NAS (just a personal preference) so the CPU not having a GPU to do hardware acceleration isn't a problem. The DS1522+ utilizes ECC, while the possibility of a flipped bit is rare, if it happens to your critical data it isn't a great thing. I feel thought that people are dropping to the CLI on both systems and doing things beyond what Synology wants. While Apple has some missteps, the tight integration of hardware and software is what I value moreso that being able to "do whatever I want", especially for a NAS. If doing whatever you want is truly what you are looking for, why not build your own with something like Unraid, TrueNAS, etc?
@@JarredSutherland Mostly because I’m a “go big or go home” sort, and while I can afford 4, 6, maybe 8 of the biggest hard drive they make, I can’t afford 24 to fully populate say a 3U or 4U SuperMicro chassis. That and a better NAS or server with greater than 1 Gbps connectivity means I’d be best served getting the house wired for Ethernet and putting in a rack for proper PoE switches etc, which is also a lot of expense.
But I’d absolutely rather build my own and run TrueNAS Scale now that it finally exists, as I can’t have a server that doesn’t support Docker or makes Docker a pain in the ass like TrueNAS Core. The issue is cost.
In the meantime, QNAP and especially Asustor run circles around Synology hardware wise, and I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about any of their crappy first party software beyond basic shit like being able to do automatic backups of my Documents / Pictures folders to Backblaze B2 and taking btrfs or ZFS snapshots, and that works fine on any of them (except for QNAP’s stubborn refusal to support btrfs, which means I refuse to purchase any of their non-ZFS models, as I refuse to use ext4 anymore).