i kinda like how lyney isnt ALL or mostly about charged shots, he has an amazing nuke e skill and burst. he has potential for quick swap even with his skill and burst
Where the hell does bennet get the energy from the Ganyu team part? 😨 Almost everyone forgets this Very UNFAIR comparison EDIT: also its not just BENNETT. Shenhe and yanfei too. Ganyu part at childe second phase should've be way longer cuz all the support's energy are like 0.
I must agree that Lyney's gameplay is way easier than Ganyu melt. However, Lyney is not just a CA dps, his combo dealt huge dmg by his E and Q. If you change Lynette by Kazuha, the dmg is more explored.
Yeah, mine isn't fully built yet c0. His Q is hitting 115375 dmg. For me, i prefer lyney over ganyu. His playstyle is so mobile friendly and do a great dmg. Too bad, in this video, the burst didn't got a good flex plus why Lynette, should put kazuha there when ganyu got shenhe. Lyney dmg didn't get a good showcase here. Overall they're built different.
The only optimal way of using his E is by accumulating stacks and the fastest way you can accumulate those stacks is by doing charged shots, so no, Lyney is still considered a CA DPS.
I think that's completable to a reaction Dps like ganyu bc lyney shines in monopyro while ganyu shines in reverse melt.Imagine if ganyu CA are upgraded in her cons,she will be op
@@UenoyamaRhenzganuy has reverse melt so it is x 1.5 multiplyer and lyneys passive gives him. An x2 multiplyer in mono pyro so on that aspect he is still better, powercreep is inevitable
this only affects the whales but i dont quite like this change. Just feels strange the constelation choosing only one of the 2 abillities to 3 lvl. And i think more chars will have it in the future aswell
@@med2006v only if you don't look at the character holistically, Lyney as a whole is mroe reliant on CA than his skill, so IMO the constellation is a showcase on Hoyo's flexibility to accommodate cookie cutter templates to the character's uniqueness.
Timer isn't here because i don't want one of them to lose lol and in my opinion both performed really well you may can have different opinion Thanks for watching
@@alboneliaswait what? isn't that lame to say something like this without any supporting statement.. also you are ignoring the fact that ganyu is a AOE Dps but lyney only viable in ST teams and also forgetting that ganyu can use melt reactions and EM buffers like c2 kazuha meanwhile lyney isn't good in melt teams which makes ganyu's dmg a little higher than lyney but doing constant reactions isn't that comfortable for most situation overall ganyu and lyney both are really good units
Bruh only Ayaka has power crept Ganyu and Lyney is pyro. You fundamentally can’t compare them. Also Ganyu works very well in multiple team comps so she’s still a better choice for many players over Lyney.
Lyney and Ganyu are not the same, they’re both CA units but they fill different roles. You can compare them with Star Rail units: Lyney is Hunt/Destruction while Ganyu is Erudition. They excel at different content of the game. Lyney is great at destroying single/small mobs of enemies quickly with his CA, Burst and Skill that offers frontloaded high damage. While Ganyu is great at clearing large mobs of enemies with her damage-per-second kit. They are both CA DPS units but have different playstyles.
@@ReijiO-xv4eg I think people have a near-sighted view on Lyney's CA damage that they don't realize that his whole kit is more streamlined to deal as much damage in the least amount of time for a single enemy, and his CA only contributes to around 30-40% of his personal dmg. Whereas Ganyu is an exclusively CA focused DPS. It also grinds my gear whenever content creator make a disclaimer that one unit is only better at certain content. Yes that's the point, because that's how you design a balanced roster of characters (except for Archons who are great at almost every content in the game). Being better at one content doesn't make you bad at others. Yes there are maybe other units who are going to have a better output but that doesn't mean powercreep.
as ganyu main, yes she strong on melt comp, the different with lyney well most ganyu dmg came from her CA even the talent encourage to do her CA more than anything while her burst is just a bit buff but its hard to use on melt comp cuz burst will mess up the flow and her E well its just taunt but with liney his entire skill can do more damage than just his CA, his skill has a stack that do much damage, his ult have insane multiplier, everything on his kit can do much damage even without reaction thus the monopyro comp they are two char with different playstyle not just CA
Also, Liney underperforms in no mono pyro comps. Like, he can't even work well with Yanfei, so he is very limited on who to pair with. For nukes, we basically know that even Candace can Nuke and Yelan can do high dmg with her E. Liney is awesome, but not really better than Ganyu imo, just different with only 1 possible comp.
You clearly know no sh*t about Lyney probably not even know his passive and mechanic. Like for Yanfei, some reliable guide maker I watched literally said Yanfei C4 can be used for him if you don't have any shield option@@Syokool
@@Syokool that's just straight up braindead take. Like why would you put him in a team not designed for him and then compare him to other optimal teams? That's like saying, well Hu Tao underperforms outside vape teams like??? Also it doesn't matter if ganyu can be in more teams while being mid in every single one of those other teams. Like be fr ganyu in freeze?? The more practical choice is Ayaka which far outclasses and outdamages her. Ganyu sub dps? Most of the time you'd rather just run Rosaria than her. So yeah she can be in other team comps yet she's also easily replaceable in those,,, so no, it does not make her better than lyney.
You can play him on NA because his passive actually increases all of his damage as long as you can maintain pyro auro. Maybe try him in Superconduct but try to maintain the pyro on enemies. @@manoharalisa5829
from this i think but are very strong character's but i prefer ganyu's character and playstyle (especially since lyney's playstyle is confusing to me 𖦹﹏𖦹;) i think when it comes to pulling you should just pull for whatever character/playstyle you like more ! >ᴗ
I think the two are even, Lyney is not made to make elemental reactions, and although you do them in monopyro you end up doing more damage than in melts / vapes lmao, apart from that his elemental and ultimate do a lot of damage. The bad thing is that his loads are for unitarget, and Ganyu can melt most of his blows (charged attacks) since his skills do not do much damage, the good thing is that he does damage in the AoE, but I think Lyney is for little more f2p
@@Aki-hb1jydid you realize Liney can't get buffs without losing charges, right? That's why you never can play Liney unless you ONLY play Liney. Kazuha can help, but the time he uses for anything costs Liney time on field, making any plausible mono pyro comp trash without spending and over spending on Liney. Eula can do more than him, but so far we agreed the game has just too many hyper carries without much possibilities besides few comps. The video shows exactly the fastest way to beat Childe with 2 characters, but Ganyu didn't lose. In fact, besides mono target, Liney actually succ. Ganyu can easily overcome the weakness of Liney with multi target, stuff, and also properly benefiting from buffs. In the long run, ppl will realize how bad is having 1 char that can't really get buffs. Also, this the reason why ppl kinda wanted Liney and Lynette to work together, but they don't. Also, pyro and cryo are easily trash tier elements only above geo. Any other element will beat them, that's why you can't beat Yelan with Liney, you simple can't compare them at all.
@@cosmictrainer2919 My ganyu uses wt & once reach over 102k in 4 consecutive CA simultaneously when in co-op with yoimiya against scara, normally not more thn 28k and then u said her melt is garbage ?
Not the most OP, but the only team. He can't really work with anyone, not even Bennet due to his charge count mechanics. He can't even work with Kazuha, unless you want to waste time. So you can see the pattern here, Liney is a very selfish character that can only work alone, but also can't work with other chars in rotations.
Lyney melt exist and it does quite a lot. He can still work well with reaction team it's just they offer you better option. As for Kazuha, what the hell do you smoke dude Kazuha is one of his best team since most his team are mono pyro Kazuha passive is always on. @@Syokool
Tf he works really well with Bennett and in fact he works exclusively well with Bennett because of how his stacks work, he'll always have 5 stacks cos his health will always be above the threshold of 60% due to Bennetts heals. He's way more easy to use than ganyu and works exceptionally well in his mono pyro team with Bennett xiangling and Kazuha or zhongli. Get your facts correct man
@@nyes4596 Lynette is now on the list of 4 star characters I would really love to reach C6 along with Noelle, Barbara and Collei :D Her last const making her get an Anemo Dmg infusion changes a lot her playstyle in my eyes :D Honorable mentions would Rosaria, Yun Jin, and the impossible Lisa.
Still falls short on Sucrose or some things, and for dps you have Heizou that is an actual beast. However Lynette has a mix of everything making her a good replacement for Sucrose + Yelan, and Sayu as well. C6 makes her one of the best 4* below Bennet, XQ and Xiangling.
Both are insanely strong but for me it mostly come downs to gameplay and style , I prefer Ganyu overall for the extra AOE during her charged attack but like most people said she could be “boring” and doesn’t fully utilise her entire kits even though I fully disagree her Elemental skill is really fun especially you can Iframe or dodge incoming attack with it , lyney big number sure is satisfying to watch and he can easily achieve high number damage with bare minimum investment.
To be fair, Ganyu is rarely ever used outside of dps. The other role she can potentially take is burst support but even that is limited and she’s not actually bis for any of those alternate teams. For example, Ayaka is actually Hutao’s best whale burst support along wit( Elegy c6 Amber
@@REIDAE I wasnt even arguing that. I was arguing that the best way to play Ganyu is main dos charged shots with her on field a majority of the time. While she *can* be played subdps burst support, she isnt actually good at them compared to Ayaka so this “flexibility” argument is wasted and not actually valid
ganyu will always be the charged attack queen but that's her double edged sword, sadly, that's how far she can go. Lyney isn't purely ca and his kit is pretty interesting. He's fun!
Here's the end to this debate,lyney deals a bit more dmg but single target only while ganyu deals a bit less dmg but aoe.... So against bosses,lyney is better while against hoards of mobs ganyu is better
@@minedude7112 i dont have ganyu or lyney, but i saw ganyu can melt back to back in 1 rotation easily. lyney vaporize isnt good as mono pyro. so ganyu is good for multitarget and single targets depends on the comp you're running.
@@LightSpark003 do you know what kazuha does? He literally gives you elemental damage bonus for the element you swirl. That literally makes him best anemo unit for Mono-element teams. He could have gotten a faster clear.
@@LightSpark003 Kazuha gives the team elemental damage bonus based on his EM level as part of his kit, plus he can use VV for increasing elemental damage even more. This is why he is so good in mono elemental teams, Sucrose can share EM but that is useless for Lyney so Kazuha is incredibly good.
@@LightSpark003 no, 4pc VV brings down the resistance of enemies to the element you swirled by 40% for 8 seconds. The elemental damage bonus is Kazuha's Passive.
i honestly think ganyu did better at the 1st and 3rd phase, lyney did better at the 2nd but at the end of the day, i wanna marry them both no matter what
Meta living rent free in people's heads lol just pull for whoever you like no need for comparison who deals the most damage cuz in the end its a pve where characters is fun and useful in their own way
they aint comparable they do different things, but ganyu is more versatile since she has the AOE advantage, her E is more or less useless but thats the side effect of being an old unit, lyney is great in momo pyro teams
ganyu is my favorite dps when it comes to gameplay I'd be curious to know which Build you used in this video (of all team members) Unfortunately, I don't like Lyney at the design level even if the gameplay is excellent and hes also very strong
I have both lyney C0R1 and ganyu C1R2 since I really like bow charged attack characters , both are strong but in my opinion lyney multipliers and cons are better than her even tho his playstyle is more niche. well, ganyu can be played as burst sub-dps too so I guess thats one of the good point about her.
Honestly since you were showcasing melt, Ganyu should probably have been on Hunter's path (her BiS for melt). Or at least not on Amos' Also a tankier boss would have been a better showcase. All this shows is that both comps can melt down Childe instantly. You could use midnight Masanori or an Abyss boss for a better showcase imo
Stop making excuses... Bruh how is masanori a tanky boss? His hp is way less than childe and where the hack is this a melt ganyu showcase 💀??hunter's path truly is the worst 5 star bow for this showcase because first and second phases didn't even used melt ganyu so stacking EM will be the worst choice for her... And how you are so sure that I have hunter's path? When I don't even have tighnari.... and
@@DYSPROGENSHIN He's 2.5 times tougher at midnight And if you don't have Hunter's path, why not use Lyney's bow on both of them. It's probably the best general bow for Ganyu now.
Because lyney's bow is not ganyu's signature weapon? Her signature is ammo's bow! the first great magic needs 3 cryo characters in a party to activate the passive which is not a good idea also ammo's bow Is her most powerful weapon for far range fights because ammo's can stack to max.
they won't make 5* pyro shenhe because. Bennett is biggest mistake they ever create. if they decide make premium pyro buffer it should stronger than the archon bennett. otherwise no point pulling
Ganyu. Ganyu has aoe in every CA, and cryo has the crit rate from consonance and fast energy generation from 2 or more cryo characters, then her ulti is also a constant aoe dmg.
@@archive0024 Obviously Yelan is the best unit. But in terms of dps, Tighnari and Lyney and Ganyu are pretty much similar. So go for whoever you have better teammates for.
Well lyney is not only about CA like ganyu and if u only do CA then ganyu is the best till now (Bow only ) but if u say about whole kit then ganyu fell off when inazuma release
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i kinda like how lyney isnt ALL or mostly about charged shots, he has an amazing nuke e skill and burst. he has potential for quick swap even with his skill and burst
ganyu can be a main dps melt, freeze support, freeze main dps, or your very own cocogoat. clearly theres a winner
@@cugnugglerironically both has cons in term of playstyle. With Ganyu its the "boring" aim shot playstyle whereas Lyney team comp is very restrictive
@@cugnugglerwake up, it's already 2023. Stop going backwards
@@cugnugglerone downside of ganyu is that you have to play ganyu lol
@@cugnugglerNo one is talking about versatility here, the subject is playstyle
The way Lyney incinerates Childe's HP bar in all three phases is just way too classy, stylish and elegant PERIOD
the way Ganyu drawns every inch of the HP bar of Childe is smooth, PERIODT.
IKRR
"Classy, Stylish, Elegant" How -French- Fontainian 🤭
Where the hell does bennet get the energy from the Ganyu team part? 😨
Almost everyone forgets this
Very UNFAIR comparison
EDIT: also its not just BENNETT. Shenhe and yanfei too. Ganyu part at childe second phase should've be way longer cuz all the support's energy are like 0.
@@michaeledison1974who asked
I must agree that Lyney's gameplay is way easier than Ganyu melt. However, Lyney is not just a CA dps, his combo dealt huge dmg by his E and Q. If you change Lynette by Kazuha, the dmg is more explored.
Bro there is already sm dmg 😭
Not to mention with Lyney you don’t need to worry about crit are much so long as you have his signature artifacts
Same for Ganyu but the fourth character is hardly used
Yeah, mine isn't fully built yet c0. His Q is hitting 115375 dmg.
For me, i prefer lyney over ganyu. His playstyle is so mobile friendly and do a great dmg. Too bad, in this video, the burst didn't got a good flex plus why Lynette, should put kazuha there when ganyu got shenhe. Lyney dmg didn't get a good showcase here.
Overall they're built different.
The only optimal way of using his E is by accumulating stacks and the fastest way you can accumulate those stacks is by doing charged shots, so no, Lyney is still considered a CA DPS.
the big thing imo is the fact that lyney's constellation gives him CA level up rather than the classic skill and burst
I think that's completable to a reaction Dps like ganyu bc lyney shines in monopyro while ganyu shines in reverse melt.Imagine if ganyu CA are upgraded in her cons,she will be op
@@UenoyamaRhenz she already is💀
@@UenoyamaRhenzganuy has reverse melt so it is x 1.5 multiplyer and lyneys passive gives him. An x2 multiplyer in mono pyro so on that aspect he is still better, powercreep is inevitable
this only affects the whales but i dont quite like this change. Just feels strange the constelation choosing only one of the 2 abillities to 3 lvl. And i think more chars will have it in the future aswell
@@med2006v only if you don't look at the character holistically, Lyney as a whole is mroe reliant on CA than his skill, so IMO the constellation is a showcase on Hoyo's flexibility to accommodate cookie cutter templates to the character's uniqueness.
Timer isn't here because i don't want one of them to lose lol and in my opinion both performed really well you may can have different opinion
Thanks for watching
Nah! Ganyu lost the battle she is now obsolete and irrelevant
@@albonelias she clearly didn't lose
@@alboneliaswait what? isn't that lame to say something like this without any supporting statement..
also you are ignoring the fact that ganyu is a AOE Dps but lyney only viable in ST teams and also forgetting that ganyu can use melt reactions and EM buffers like c2 kazuha meanwhile lyney isn't good in melt teams which makes ganyu's dmg a little higher than lyney but doing constant reactions isn't that comfortable for most situation overall ganyu and lyney both are really good units
@albonelias ganyu didn't even use melt
@albonelias and she clearly one shot everything while lyney 2 shot the first phase
ganyu always got powercreep and shadowed by future units but she always be my favorit off field dps, i like that her burst duration is more than 10s
Ganyu in the right hands Is totally broken
She’s still totally broken and I want to get her one day
Bruh only Ayaka has power crept Ganyu and Lyney is pyro. You fundamentally can’t compare them.
Also Ganyu works very well in multiple team comps so she’s still a better choice for many players over Lyney.
Her burst skill persists even after it cools down😅
powercrept sure but she is a good support too.
Also we love the Ganyu + Ayato teams. Frozen eternally.
The Ganyu run looked like 2 separate runs with bursts magically filled again on phase 3.
Regardless, the best DPS is the DPS you enjoy the most.
Definitely was lol
Man its him taking his hat off and bowing after demolishing Childe for me (0:57)
Lyney and Ganyu are not the same, they’re both CA units but they fill different roles. You can compare them with Star Rail units: Lyney is Hunt/Destruction while Ganyu is Erudition. They excel at different content of the game. Lyney is great at destroying single/small mobs of enemies quickly with his CA, Burst and Skill that offers frontloaded high damage. While Ganyu is great at clearing large mobs of enemies with her damage-per-second kit. They are both CA DPS units but have different playstyles.
THANK YOU! Someone who actually uses their brain
I have both and yes you are right, other people just like seeing huge numbers they don't care about the mechanics.
@@ReijiO-xv4eg I think people have a near-sighted view on Lyney's CA damage that they don't realize that his whole kit is more streamlined to deal as much damage in the least amount of time for a single enemy, and his CA only contributes to around 30-40% of his personal dmg. Whereas Ganyu is an exclusively CA focused DPS. It also grinds my gear whenever content creator make a disclaimer that one unit is only better at certain content. Yes that's the point, because that's how you design a balanced roster of characters (except for Archons who are great at almost every content in the game). Being better at one content doesn't make you bad at others. Yes there are maybe other units who are going to have a better output but that doesn't mean powercreep.
FINALLY 👏 A COMMENT THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINS AND UNDERSTANDS THEIR KITS AND DIFFERENCES ❤️
Aka just play XL, Hu Tao or Yoimiya instead of Lyney and ditch Ganyu
Lyney is new meta on the list
Ikr
@@MDRGAMERyou should be lol His very OP
@@k-BlazeWW30 lol yep
But Ganyu is hot.
Is he that good? I dont like the gameplay but I accidentally got his bow lol, so i'm hesitatinf if I should get him
as ganyu main, yes she strong on melt comp, the different with lyney well most ganyu dmg came from her CA even the talent encourage to do her CA more than anything
while her burst is just a bit buff but its hard to use on melt comp cuz burst will mess up the flow and her E well its just taunt
but with liney his entire skill can do more damage than just his CA, his skill has a stack that do much damage, his ult have insane multiplier, everything on his kit can do much damage even without reaction thus the monopyro comp
they are two char with different playstyle not just CA
Also, Liney underperforms in no mono pyro comps.
Like, he can't even work well with Yanfei, so he is very limited on who to pair with.
For nukes, we basically know that even Candace can Nuke and Yelan can do high dmg with her E. Liney is awesome, but not really better than Ganyu imo, just different with only 1 possible comp.
You clearly know no sh*t about Lyney probably not even know his passive and mechanic. Like for Yanfei, some reliable guide maker I watched literally said Yanfei C4 can be used for him if you don't have any shield option@@Syokool
As a Ganyu main acknowledge Ganyu magically had full burst on the second phase
My burning melt ganyu says hi😂
@@Syokool that's just straight up braindead take. Like why would you put him in a team not designed for him and then compare him to other optimal teams? That's like saying, well Hu Tao underperforms outside vape teams like??? Also it doesn't matter if ganyu can be in more teams while being mid in every single one of those other teams. Like be fr ganyu in freeze?? The more practical choice is Ayaka which far outclasses and outdamages her. Ganyu sub dps? Most of the time you'd rather just run Rosaria than her. So yeah she can be in other team comps yet she's also easily replaceable in those,,, so no, it does not make her better than lyney.
I'm still a bit miffed that Lyney is a charged shot char tho. Because his normal attack animation was so cool TwT
Yes i like the cards throw.
You can play him on NA because his passive actually increases all of his damage as long as you can maintain pyro auro. Maybe try him in Superconduct but try to maintain the pyro on enemies. @@manoharalisa5829
No reaction: Lyney > Ganyu
Reaction: Ganyu > Lyney
C'mon guys stop the debate, they have different roles
This is childish
I have both and generally prefer Lyney, his playstyle just feels more fun and I like hitting silly goofy numbers with no elemental reactions
adore them both, but i love lyney’s play style a little more
As a ganyu main these comments are just sad
Why is my poor cocogaot being bullied?
She clearly one shotted him just as lyney
Its literally the same
that's what i am saying she just one shoted everyone of childe phase so how is she worse than lyney
@@DYSPROGENSHIN my poor poor ganyu
Test Lyney's bow on Ganyu, with Shenhe, diona and Bennett pls
@swiftfood678can you read it again pls
Lyney's bow is better for her than Amos on my Ganyu💀
30k difference with melt.
300K AMOS.
330K TFGM.
(Sorry for the English)
from this i think but are very strong character's but i prefer ganyu's character and playstyle (especially since lyney's playstyle is confusing to me 𖦹﹏𖦹;)
i think when it comes to pulling you should just pull for whatever character/playstyle you like more ! >ᴗ
As a ganyu main I'll love my ganyu no matter what she's great
I think the two are even, Lyney is not made to make elemental reactions, and although you do them in monopyro you end up doing more damage than in melts / vapes lmao, apart from that his elemental and ultimate do a lot of damage. The bad thing is that his loads are for unitarget, and Ganyu can melt most of his blows (charged attacks) since his skills do not do much damage, the good thing is that he does damage in the AoE, but I think Lyney is for little more f2p
Also their lyney being c1:
@@TheGenshinSimpGanyu had full team buffs. Lynette barely had access to that lol. It’s clear as day Ganyu got demolished
Ganyu is worse than lyney melt ganyu feels garbage
@@Aki-hb1jydid you realize Liney can't get buffs without losing charges, right? That's why you never can play Liney unless you ONLY play Liney. Kazuha can help, but the time he uses for anything costs Liney time on field, making any plausible mono pyro comp trash without spending and over spending on Liney. Eula can do more than him, but so far we agreed the game has just too many hyper carries without much possibilities besides few comps.
The video shows exactly the fastest way to beat Childe with 2 characters, but Ganyu didn't lose. In fact, besides mono target, Liney actually succ. Ganyu can easily overcome the weakness of Liney with multi target, stuff, and also properly benefiting from buffs. In the long run, ppl will realize how bad is having 1 char that can't really get buffs. Also, this the reason why ppl kinda wanted Liney and Lynette to work together, but they don't.
Also, pyro and cryo are easily trash tier elements only above geo. Any other element will beat them, that's why you can't beat Yelan with Liney, you simple can't compare them at all.
@@cosmictrainer2919 My ganyu uses wt & once reach over 102k in 4 consecutive CA simultaneously when in co-op with yoimiya against scara, normally not more thn 28k and then u said her melt is garbage ?
'Had to watch Lyney twice 'cause Childe's electro phase ended so suddenly, and thought I watched just the hydro and foul legacy phase.
Ganyu can be played both melt and freeze team. I don't know about Lyney but afaik his most OP team is only monopyro
Not the most OP, but the only team. He can't really work with anyone, not even Bennet due to his charge count mechanics.
He can't even work with Kazuha, unless you want to waste time. So you can see the pattern here, Liney is a very selfish character that can only work alone, but also can't work with other chars in rotations.
Lyney melt exist and it does quite a lot. He can still work well with reaction team it's just they offer you better option. As for Kazuha, what the hell do you smoke dude Kazuha is one of his best team since most his team are mono pyro Kazuha passive is always on. @@Syokool
Tf he works really well with Bennett and in fact he works exclusively well with Bennett because of how his stacks work, he'll always have 5 stacks cos his health will always be above the threshold of 60% due to Bennetts heals. He's way more easy to use than ganyu and works exceptionally well in his mono pyro team with Bennett xiangling and Kazuha or zhongli. Get your facts correct man
@@SyokoolBro what are you on??
As Klee haver, I'm so happy that every Lyney showcase includes her, though I have no idea why. Is she a better teammate for him than Xiangling?
C2 klee
Ttds + is pyro + c2( if you have c2)
C2 shreds defense
+ you can add thrilling tales weapon on her for more support atk% on main dps
Who is the person in your photo profile?
Not many talk about it but Lynette is so damn awesome! Her Burst infused with another element does a lot of damage, and I only have her at C0.
I had her at c6 while trying to get bennett 💀
@@amongus8273 great news, check out the new event
C6 Her can be a main DPS, she is no Sucrose ofcourse, but she is good.
@@nyes4596 Lynette is now on the list of 4 star characters I would really love to reach C6 along with Noelle, Barbara and Collei :D
Her last const making her get an Anemo Dmg infusion changes a lot her playstyle in my eyes :D
Honorable mentions would Rosaria, Yun Jin, and the impossible Lisa.
Still falls short on Sucrose or some things, and for dps you have Heizou that is an actual beast.
However Lynette has a mix of everything making her a good replacement for Sucrose + Yelan, and Sayu as well. C6 makes her one of the best 4* below Bennet, XQ and Xiangling.
Both are insanely strong but for me it mostly come downs to gameplay and style , I prefer Ganyu overall for the extra AOE during her charged attack but like most people said she could be “boring” and doesn’t fully utilise her entire kits even though I fully disagree her Elemental skill is really fun especially you can Iframe or dodge incoming attack with it , lyney big number sure is satisfying to watch and he can easily achieve high number damage with bare minimum investment.
I think lyney since he does dmg with all of his abilities while his CA multiplier is quite similar with ganyu's multiplier
Obviously Lyney won this time, and we didn't even have a pyro shenhe, to buff pyro itself
It is called bennet but he can buff other characters too
Bro forgot c6 Bennett
Bennett is in the video but he's forgotten
Many want to make comparisons of ganyu vs ayaka or liney but forget that she can cover other roles and still be a good dps
To be fair, Ganyu is rarely ever used outside of dps. The other role she can potentially take is burst support but even that is limited and she’s not actually bis for any of those alternate teams. For example, Ayaka is actually Hutao’s best whale burst support along wit( Elegy c6 Amber
i agree there
@@seraphywang4638 there isnt just one type of dps. Different combat encounters call for different types of dps.
@@REIDAE
I wasnt even arguing that. I was arguing that the best way to play Ganyu is main dos charged shots with her on field a majority of the time. While she *can* be played subdps burst support, she isnt actually good at them compared to Ayaka so this “flexibility” argument is wasted and not actually valid
Kazuha better
Poor Tighnari
Can you make a video displaying Lyney and his teams build? Im curious to see how you managed to hit such high numbers with him
I don't really like compared who the best CA character because I can say both is great with their own different build, team and playstyle.
If anyone went to know lyney wins by 4s lol but they are both good:D
they are both are really good. Lets be honest.
They are. People are hella annoying
ganyu will always be the charged attack queen but that's her double edged sword, sadly, that's how far she can go.
Lyney isn't purely ca and his kit is pretty interesting. He's fun!
Holy shit, that's way way way faster than my unskippable dialogue fest daily commission
Here's the end to this debate,lyney deals a bit more dmg but single target only while ganyu deals a bit less dmg but aoe....
So against bosses,lyney is better while against hoards of mobs ganyu is better
Did u hear Ganyu melt?
@@Buraksama did you hear lyney vape?
@@BuraksamaLyney > ganyu melt
Ganyu has to melt in order to reach Lyneys amount of numbers, he does multiple instances too
Did you hear lyney mono pyro ?
@@minedude7112 i dont have ganyu or lyney, but i saw ganyu can melt back to back in 1 rotation easily. lyney vaporize isnt good as mono pyro. so ganyu is good for multitarget and single targets depends on the comp you're running.
that burst hit like a dump truck😮
Ganyu used only charge attk, while Lyney used everything he has, so my opinion is Ganyu > Lyney
^ without buffs
@@iignkfdvbjjg6093 it will not if you used dendro+pyro :)
Copium is unreal
Nice to see you again
You too Nice to see you again
what did we learn? it doens't matter who you pick, they both one shot the boss easily
Uhm but why lynete instead of kazuha ? Dont think she will buff lyney much :v
Lyney doesn't need elemental reaction
@@LightSpark003 do you know what kazuha does? He literally gives you elemental damage bonus for the element you swirl. That literally makes him best anemo unit for Mono-element teams. He could have gotten a faster clear.
@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur oh, that's for 4pc vv right?
@@LightSpark003 Kazuha gives the team elemental damage bonus based on his EM level as part of his kit, plus he can use VV for increasing elemental damage even more. This is why he is so good in mono elemental teams, Sucrose can share EM but that is useless for Lyney so Kazuha is incredibly good.
@@LightSpark003 no, 4pc VV brings down the resistance of enemies to the element you swirled by 40% for 8 seconds. The elemental damage bonus is Kazuha's Passive.
i honestly think ganyu did better at the 1st and 3rd phase, lyney did better at the 2nd but at the end of the day, i wanna marry them both no matter what
Yess lets marry them HAHAHAHAHA
i started to regret for skipping Lyney
I absolutely love Ganyu and I'm having so much fun with Lyney - Bow enjoyer fr
In the lore Ganyu win! But in the gameplay for me Lyney more insteresting good and not so difficult to play..
Honestly, lyney is more fun. Ganyu is too boring because she’s based off CA.
Lyney can also deal damage with E and Q.
I have both, but i still like ganyu ganyu my favorit char
summary: best constant dmg is ganyu, and lyney matches if its one wave of enemies
Meta living rent free in people's heads lol just pull for whoever you like no need for comparison who deals the most damage cuz in the end its a pve where characters is fun and useful in their own way
Im glad I won the 50/50 with Lyney
does dps really matter if the boss is gone in seconds
Lets pretend like Ganyu is not AoE focused and Lyney is single target.
And lets pretend Ganyu is not melt based
@@andiadam3662 then play lyney melt dumbass
Each elements all bow dps is great you can't compared it is bbut i love and like ganyu playstyle ❤
What did you feed them both that made them do that
nice my ganyu do 450k without shenhe and with hamayumi on scaramouche boss
good
Look how he nearly one shot first phase with no support
they aint comparable they do different things, but ganyu is more versatile since she has the AOE advantage, her E is more or less useless but thats the side effect of being an old unit, lyney is great in momo pyro teams
ganyu is my favorite dps when it comes to gameplay I'd be curious to know which Build you used in this video (of all team members) Unfortunately, I don't like Lyney at the design level even if the gameplay is excellent and hes also very strong
Aww I WANT LYNEY SO MUCH BUT I LOST THE 50/50 TO Tighnari..
Okay, what the frigging eff? How are your characters so strong?
ganyu stans in this comment section are unnecessarily rude
To be fair Lyney stans have been acting a fool and getting slick at the mouth too. So I understand them.
ok cope bout it shitney fan
Hii just got lyney huhu, could you share your build pls, im still not sure on what to farm thankss!!
Lyney New Meta + fun to play + not boring to play
But his build needs 5* cdmg bows to perform outstanding
I have both lyney C0R1 and ganyu C1R2 since I really like bow charged attack characters , both are strong but in my opinion lyney multipliers and cons are better than her even tho his playstyle is more niche. well, ganyu can be played as burst sub-dps too so I guess thats one of the good point about her.
Honestly since you were showcasing melt, Ganyu should probably have been on Hunter's path (her BiS for melt).
Or at least not on Amos'
Also a tankier boss would have been a better showcase. All this shows is that both comps can melt down Childe instantly.
You could use midnight Masanori or an Abyss boss for a better showcase imo
Stop making excuses...
Bruh how is masanori a tanky boss? His hp is way less than childe and where the hack is this a melt ganyu showcase 💀??hunter's path truly is the worst 5 star bow for this showcase because first and second phases didn't even used melt ganyu so stacking EM will be the worst choice for her...
And how you are so sure that I have hunter's path? When I don't even have tighnari....
and
@@DYSPROGENSHIN He's 2.5 times tougher at midnight
And if you don't have Hunter's path, why not use Lyney's bow on both of them. It's probably the best general bow for Ganyu now.
Because lyney's bow is not ganyu's signature weapon? Her signature is ammo's bow!
the first great magic needs 3 cryo characters in a party to activate the passive which is not a good idea also ammo's bow Is her most powerful weapon for far range fights because ammo's can stack to max.
I regret (for now) pulling for Yelan instead of Lyney
Imagine a pyro version of Shenhe, or a C6 Faruzan/Sara/Mika/Gorou
You mean Bennett? Lol
they won't make 5* pyro shenhe because. Bennett is biggest mistake they ever create.
if they decide make premium pyro buffer it should stronger than the archon bennett. otherwise no point pulling
@@takamiya2344pyro is power element so many pyro character will be strong.
Noted:
Not everyone have shenhe.(but i have it)
But not everyone have lyney😢.
Amos is not really good for ganyu...It's his signature weapon but it's weaker than lynett's tear and Yelan's weapon
Hey, Can you do Lyney and Ganyu damage comparison only raw damage.
lyney gonna win
I’ll take ganyu, it’s good to have cryo dps which I don’t have
I have 2 other pyro dps anyway
Lyney: "wanna see a trick?"
Is it only me that likes ganyu's gameplay? Why is there so much hate abt it?
Ganyu has more AoE and better at multi wave mobs (eg: brawl event), Lyney is more excel on single target (bosses) or single wave clumped mobs.
Hunt is more strong single damage than Erudition deal all damage..
Not me thinking the first damage was yanfei's burst 😭
holy moly .......
Poor childe😂
How did you build them it's just crazy
So C1 lyney does almost the same as C0 ganyu well GENYU! get out of rhe basement i am unbenching u
Good video man but our CA Queen is the best🥰🥰
Nope
Nope
Nope
yes she is
Nope, c6 tignari is the best
God i lost my pity on a character i wantedd from startinggg
Oh well, powercreep is inevitable. But at least she's still very good in co op
I love Ganyu but gosh needing to build shield characters to play her in melt is boring.
Can u show ur Ganyu build?
Bro bow users are crazy strong
Why characters in your game are so strong
He claims to be f2p but he is whale 🤣
Ya a whale with c0 units 💀
bro I am not even a dolphin... I don't like using money on games
He used food
@@DYSPROGENSHIN you should just screenshot and put your crystal purchase bonus page on your community tab so that these people can't doubt you.
@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur crystal purchase bonus page what's that
its a myth if childe has a second phase
The two of the characters are also best 😅in the game
in terms of aoe who has more ganyu or lyney?
Ganyu. Ganyu has aoe in every CA, and cryo has the crit rate from consonance and fast energy generation from 2 or more cryo characters, then her ulti is also a constant aoe dmg.
Lyney is best DPS
Ganyu is best character to have
I just gave you 777 likes. My favorite number.. it’s fate.
I don't care. Both of them are ✨👌
Ganyu 29 seconds, lyney 22 seconds
I can't tell who's better lol they both one shot child but lyney is more fun
If you have both C6 which one is better though
For dmg, Liney, for versatility Ganyu.
Is he a hillishur his hp is too low
😂
what about tighnari?
I don't have him
@@DYSPROGENSHINsad ;(
tighnari vs yelan vs ganyu vs lyney vs venti?
@@archive0024they have different kit duh
@@archive0024 Obviously Yelan is the best unit. But in terms of dps, Tighnari and Lyney and Ganyu are pretty much similar. So go for whoever you have better teammates for.
lyney made the child disappear 😱😱😱
can we accept the fact that lyney is stronger than ganyu??
Well lyney is not only about CA like ganyu and if u only do CA then ganyu is the best till now (Bow only ) but if u say about whole kit then ganyu fell off when inazuma release
GANYU FOREVER🗿👌
For u, because lyney wins