Still, accidents sometimes happen. Last year at a rally event in my country there were people where thy shouldn't have been, one of the racers ran off the road and five of the spectators died and six injured. Now that I looked news up, there were also some similar rally accidents with spectator fatalities in Lithuania and Scotland
The video is flipped, but the "Immot" Mitsu is actually "Tommi" mitsu, driven by the legendary Finnish 4 time champion Tommi Mäkinen, who absolutely made this team during his golden years. On top of 4 championships, he also won the Finnish WRC event 5 times, back to back, and the most legendary Rallye Monte Carlo event 4 times, back to back. One of the goats, and dominant drivers of his era for sure and absolute stud behind the wheel.
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I think he mirrored it himself, as the progress bar also runs from right to left...
I remember always wanted to have the special TME (Tommi Mäkinen Edition) Evo6, red with white rally wheels. Those are really rare & sells for mega bux today.
Yep. I think there were two different Corollas there, so one of them must have been Rovanperä. Harri, Kalle's dad. I was pretty sure that Toni Gardemeister (Finnish driver) was dirving Seat, went to check and saw I was right, but also Didier Auriol was driving one there. THAT I wouldn't have remembered.
The Ford Focus RS was the first Ford in 20 years to be built with all-wheel drive again. Production takes place in the German city of Saarlouis. Sales started around 2015.
The Focus WRC seen here was 4WD; there was never a road car version. The rules at the time didn't require full homologation specials like the Celica GT-Four; rather the rally car just had to match the length of the production car.
So many good drivers in this era Marko Martin, Petter Solberg, Tommi Mäkinen, Colin McRae, and so on. Ford Focus, Mitsubishi Lancer, Subaru Impreza, Peugoet 306 and so on. (I hope I got them right) They used a horn to warn people a car is coming.
The cars making heavy landings are Group N - or production - spec. They have uprated suspension but not the increased wheel travel and trick dampers highly modified Group A/WRC cars have that absorb big impacts so well.
I had a Seat Leon Cupra R (225 bhp). I bought it brand new for £17500 in 2003 and pretty much ran it into the ground. It was fairly nippy. 0-60 in 6.3 seconds (measured at Brands Hatch on a track day) but the book said 6.7. It was a phenomenal family car too. Isofix (baby carriage fixings) in the back, full size spare, (which none of its rivals, the Honda type-r, Ford focus rs, MG etc had), a surprisingly roomy boot (trunk) and a not terrible sound system. Great, great car. My only gripe, was the rather "robust" suspension. You do NOT want to clatter a pot hole. Love the content mate.
That’s cool to hear about. 🎉 Sounds like solid performance too. Bet it was lots of fun at Brands Hatch.. I love that track in the video games over the years
@IWrocker It was a fun car. Properly sticks to the road like the "proverbial to a blanket!", so particularly good around "the twisties", especially on a track. A lot of people chipped theirs (There was a popular REVO one that took it to over 400bhp, but the torque steer was insane on those.) Seat was bought out by the VW/Audi group, so the first iteration of the Cupra was a VW chassis and Audi TT engine ... You can't really go wrong there build quality wise. I had mine for 18 years and the only engine issue ever, in all that time, was the sensor that monitored the CPU temperature. Sorry for the full dissertation, but in my very humble opinion, "badge snobbery" was the only thing preventing it being as sought after as the Civic Type R and Focus RS.
The WRC Focus was all-wheel drive, and in Europe, there was a homologation model (Focus RS Mk1) of which 4501 units were built. It was front-wheel drive (I own one ❤ ).
Today if fans are seen on stage roads, stage gets cancelled . Poland for example , 7 years of prohabition aaaand they fakked up with crowd control again. Poland was dropped again from WRC calendar .
Yea same thing happend here in Finland few years ago ppl were walking on the road and and if i remember corecly on that stage they only drived 1 time then only few cars drived it again before it was canceled
10:35 yes, they all were 4wd by regulations, all "world rally car" class were 4x4, turbo 2 litre engine like the Ford Focus, Peugeot 206, Seat Córdoba, Skoda Octavia, Toyota Corolla, Hyundai Accent...
So the big jump where the Mitsubishi lost it's underbody pan is I believe a certain one from "Urria" -stage. It's the only place in the whole rally that used to have an organiser placed "danger" -sign. You can't take it over 80km/h or you'll jump like the Mitsubishi. The whistle is a "referee-whistle" that a marshall blow to tell the spectators a car is coming. In some places you don't always hear the engine sound. The white and red-white cars are Toyota Corolla WRC's.
the sound you were wondering about is actually local sound, it is to warn people to not go in front of the car or just saying another car is coming now watch it! :D
From 1951 till 1980, only Finnish and Swedish drivers won this Rally. Some of the Finnish drivers knew the stages by heart and a big part of their preparation was walking some 40-50 Kms, to try to find some places where they can cut (a little bit more) the corners, to gain decimals... Maybe 3/4 secs at the end of a 15 Kms stage
The 1st Generation was FWD including the RS, only the Rally Car was 4wd. It used a 4Zyl zetec engine. The car was extremely modified compared to the RS which had a bare chassis with reinforcements which were used in the rally car too.
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SEAT is part of the Volkswagen conglomerate. It was originally a Spanish car manufaturing company until its aquisition by VW in 1986.
Rally Finland in one of the faster rallies and unforgiving one at that (especialy in winter). In 8:38 you had a jump and another jump ( in pacenotes the second one is marked as "maybe") with a right turn after them.
I'm pretty sure it was just the bumpers stuck out more on the US model but the body was the same. Similar to how Peugeot brought out a special big bumper GT version so they could hit the requirements for vehicle length
Yeah, I was surprised to see that Toyota wasn't a manufacturer entry in 2000 anymore (meaning; Rovanperä and others were driving for some private team with Corollas, or rentong those).
@@TunturiBreak95 Oh, that's right. Didn't even think about the reason, just would've thought it was a few years later they did that (but since it was because of the F1 project, makes perfect sense).
Hello. I recommend (still in the WRC 90s category) the videos of "Kit Car rally". Literally, factory cars transformed with kits that you could order to turn your car into a rally car. Peugeot 106, Citroën Saxo, Renault Megane, Seat Ibiza, Nissan Micra...
Hi Ian, the specific years of WRC to watch on this era is 97/98/99. End of the Makkinen domination, Kit-cars beat the WRCs on tarmac, before Loeb and Citroen's ultra domination (start in 2002 to 2004) for almost 10 years (end in 2012). Great years, Sainz(Senior), McRae, Makkinen, Kankkunen, Auriol, Delecourt are still there. Gronholm, Burns, Solberg, Panizzi as tarmac expert. A very young Loeb entering the game... yes beside grB era, this is another golden age in rally in a sports way, even if the cars (the WRC's) was pretty weak back in the days. 97 to 2004 is the actual era if we can rank it.
These cars were under WRC specification that started 1997 and were evolution from Group A rules. -Must be based on road car of minimum 2500 production units -maximum 2.0 L engine -Minimum weight 1230 kg/2712 lbs - Maximum width 1770 mm -maximum track width 1550 mm. AWD, semi-automatic gearbox and so on were not mandatory on road cars
25000 units per year not 2500, actually. There's an error in Wikipedia. Group A needed 2500 so called "homolgation specials" - cars in exactly the same configuration as rally cars, but with road trim
I can remember clearly a report from either BBC or ITV on a rally in the 2000's , where the landings from jumps that the onboard cameras captured were so hard it was knocking the breath out of mainly the co-drivers . you could hear them struggling to breathe !!!
Something you might be interested in is the "Speed Weekend" event in Sweden. It is basically a long straight on a frozen lake where anyone pretty much can bring anything as long as the organizers deem it safe enough and see how fast it goes. Hence, you get everything from those who build their cars and bikes up to insane specifications and pretty much go for the land speed record on ice, as well as those who are more like "yeah, I decided to strap an engine to this old bicycle and am happy as long as it goes faster than I could pedal manually". One of the better channels I have seen documenting this event, filming the vehicles and interviewing their owners is "Motornörd" which translates to "motor/engine nerd". Unfortunately it is all in Swedish, it does have subtitles in Swedish but UA-cam's auto-translation into English is not great. However, on his videos of speed weekend 2019 he actually added real English subtitles, they're not the best but totally understandable and a lot better than youtube's auto translation.
These were the years when less powered and FWD Kit cars were faster on tarmac than 4WD WRC beasts.... which effectively killed the 2-liter F2 cup. I think that yellow Ibiza at 4:52 could be an F2 Kit car, since I don't remember exactly in which year the series was discontinued....
The car we saw was the Cordoba, which was developed after the big success of the Ibiza KitCar. The Kitcar won some championships and so Seat wanted something to compete at the top class of WRC, they made the Cordoba, which was a great car, but was too fragile, so that car never made it to the top unfortunately. I'm the happy owner of a Seat Ibiza 6k2 (the model after the one that was made to be KitCar) and honestly even as a commuter it's really fun to drive. In Europe a lot of them get modified, they came with TDi engines so yeah you see the deal. The Cupra variants tho can seriously be a fast hatchback, be it the 2.0 ABF, which with some work can put out 600hp + or the 1.8T 20VT which is already know by most people 1.8 never lose
Hi there from Portugal! The car you didn't recognize was a Toyota Corola WRC, the yellow is a Seat Cordoba WRC and there was algo a Hyundai Accent WRC in there . The reason for the damage on those slower car was, besides some over driving, that they are a lower spec (group n/production) and have allot worst suspension than the top WRC spec ones (factory Mitsubishi was still a Group A) All WRC were all wheel drive, in the video there was only one fwd, the Peugeot 106 that broke the front bumper. There were several fwd classes, F2 (ex: Renault Clio Maxi, Renault Megane Maxi, Peugeot 306 Maxi..) , S1600 (Peugeot 106 S1600, Ford Puma S1600), in group N there was also some fwd.
Also an unfortunate yet kind of funny fact about these shots is the fact that camera men often get pelted by the rocks trying to get the best shots. I've been next to one and the dude had to do it for 3 days. He had some kind of protective shield for his head and body but not his legs lol.
That Focus (#6 car) is driven by Carlos Sainz Sr. Father of F1 driver Carlos Sainz Jr. And Sr. is 62 years old and is still active driver. He's currently competing is Dakar Rally. This year he's driving Ford Raptor T1+ car that has Coyote V8. Previously he was driving for Audi, VW, Mini and Peugeot. Only the Mk4 Focus RS was 4WD/AWD all other generations were FWD
One way to try and tell if a car is all wheel drive or only front wheel drive is to look at the amount of roost coming off the rear wheels, if the rear wheels are powered/driven they will throw up a lot more roost than if it is only front wheel drive.
Yeah dude, the road marshalls all have whistles to warn of approaching cars, great content once again, kicked out of the park, again,Ian, thumbs up sir, greetings to all the family, keep up the great content sir,chau for now
The stage marshals have whistles or Air Horns to warn spectators that a car is coming through the stage. If somebody has a slight oopsie bad enough to have to close the stage to be able to perform rescue and recovery they give an extended blast with an Air Horn. There is a good example of this on Day 2 of the 1996 RAC Rally on the live special stage they broadcast on TV from the grounds of Chatsworth House when Gywndaf Evans and Robbie Head both managed to slide wide, clip the back of thei cars against a tree stump, and got pitched into rollover crashes that trashed the rollcage. Channel: VHS Rallies Video Title: 1996 Network Q RAC Rally (day two, early) (about 25 to 34mins into the coverage)
6:33 imagine the massive shock the driver felt on the landing! But he still had to stay focused to maintain control of the car and have quick and sharp reflexes to correct the trajectory of the car. That car was heading towards the ditch, but he immediately counter steered to keep it on the road
Stepping on the road and returning a few seconds before the car like that would lead to quite immediate cancellation of the stage nowadays. Fortunately such behavior is history.
In the late 90s early 00s you had manufactures like Mitsubishi, Subaru, Seat, Toyota, Ford, Škoda, Citroen, Hyundai, Peugeot you had all different types of manufactures.
Tbh, here in Finland we have one of the smoothest dirt roads i have seen. It's not unusual to drive 50-60 mph over them without any problem. You hardly even notice you are on dirt...
1:33 funny to see the extra indicators in the grill and the position side lights.(which in Europe would have been triangular and turn signals(also used in the Gallardo)) BUT: I have seen this US-Style Focus before. In Need for Speed Underground.
When you go spectate baseball, you can occasionally get a knocked out ball to bring home. When you go watch Rally Finland, you bring home stray car parts :D
All cars on these clips are AWD, except the Peugeot 106 at 9:07 (fwd) There were no AWD 1st gen Ford Focus on the roads. I don't think theres any shared parts between the WRC and the stock Focus other than the badge.... :D
Ian, I think you might enjoy a documentary about B-class rally, Riding balls of fire, if you can find it. It tells the short-lived experiment of non-restricted cars and it was pure insanity, including the spectator aspect! Most of the still living drivers are interviewed and their stories are pretty wild. While the drivers absolutely loved it, all agreed it had to end, when it did. Hope you can find it somewhere, those times in rally were something else..
5:00 This is a whistle from the spectators, which alerts other spectators who are further away that a rally car is approaching, purely for safety reasons, it's been an unwritten rule for decades :
the 2025 world cup stage in Finland will be from July 31st to August 3rd...if you're interested! 😉 the first stop will be in Monte-Carlo (23-26 January)
6:26 that rear end came down super hard.. that had to feel at the drivers seat.. your spine will remember it Yes focus was only AWD in the rally. Ford came up with awd later in 2015-> I think
8,03 there is no way you can discribe that. It was Juha Kankkunen with his Subaru, we were walking uphill and Juha stormed pass us. Loud a bang. No way to describe that,
If you like this, you should look into B-series rally. Completely insane. Engines tuned so high they had to be changed for every rally, combined with as light cars as possible. Also the speeds on dirt are rather casual compared to speeds on asphalt in southern european stages. I dare you to dry any rally simulator game on these.
Focus AWD 😉👍🏻. This Focus exists in an RS version 4X4 for the Road with 225 HP in Europe, homologation production card to can participate in the WRC championship 😉. But can’t tell you if this RS Road version was sales in the USA. Good question 😄🤷🏻♂️👍🏻.
The first manufacturer to bring AWD to top level rallying was Audi with the Sport Quattro in early 80's to break the dominance of Lancia, which they achieved convincingly, which then also kicked off the development race of what become the madness of Group 4. Ford arrived at the Group 4 party with the RS200 and Stig Blomqvist, prior to that it was Ari Vatanen driving the MkII Escort RS1800. After the demise of Group 4 Ford developed the Sierra XR4x4 Cosworth driven by Carlos Sainz Senior. Scandinavian drivers have always been a dominant force in Rally driving, Marku Alen, Ari Vatanen, Hannu Mikkola, Juha Kankkunen, Stig Blomqvist, Timo Salonen, Tommi Makinen (probably the greatest Scandinavian driver), Marcus Gronholm, Petter Solberg, Oit Tanak (who had the 'misfortune' of racing against the supremely talanted French driver Sebastian Ogier) and most recetly Kalle Rovanpera. The Rally Finland (which used to be called the 1000 Lakes) also used to be held in winter snow and ice with the same high speeds, hence the dominance of Scandinavian drivers throughout the history of what is now WRC. The British round of the WRC also used to be held in winter too. The Lombard RAC Rally (as it was called back then) was famous for having to tackle the notorious Kielder Forest in Northumbria, in Northern England in the Cheviot Hills which border the Scottish Southern Uplands. Whilst not being the highest or particularly high mountains, due to their more Northerly latitude and remote location often provided for challenging driving conditions which were frequently augmented by inclement weather, i.e. wind, driving rain and/or snow were not uncommon. Gradually the FIA/WRC began moving what had previously been difficult winter rallies to either spring or summer dates, thereby attempting to reduce the dominance of Scandinavian drivers, which allowed for the rise to prominence of more non Scandinavian drivers more frequently, with the likes of Miki Biasion, Carlos Sainz, Didier Auriol, Colin McRae, Richard Burns, Sebastien Loeb, and Sebastien Ogier also becoming greats of the sport. Often, like so many motorsports, you have periods of dominance by a particular manufacturer, before AWD it was fairly even, afterwards, the first period of dominance was by Audi (Quattro), then came Peugeot (205 T16), followed by a returning Lancia (Delta Integrale HF). Then the Japanese brands started to get involved, beginning with Toyota (Celica Turbo 4WD), then Subaru (Impreza 555), and Mitsubishi (various iterations of the Lancer Evo). Citroen had a long spell at the top (with various cars, Xsara, C4, DS3), followed by a few years of Volkswagen (Polo R WRC) and finally Ford got back to the top of the pile with the Fiesta WRC. The last team to dominate recently have been Toyota again, but this time with the Gazoo Racing Yaris Rally 1. However, last year Hyundai took their first WRC crown. Rally Finland/1000 Lakes is the best off road rally, but Rallye Monte Carlo and Rallye Corsica are the best tarmac rallies, after that they're all much of a muchness, no one rally is particularly bad, their just not quite as stacked from start to finish as the other three
One of my favourite parts of this video was seeing Tommi Mäkinen in action again! Pretty sure he's the only driver to ever(?) have his first name in big letters on the front and back of the car as part of the livery! Either way, he's one of the MANY succsesful rally drivers from Finland!
His teammate Freddy Loix had the writing Freddy on his Evo, because the FIA banned the cigarette advertising on the cars. It was Marlboro originally. Like in the F1 when in the Mclaren's West writing changed to Kimi.
Rally Finland has the highest stage average speeds of all the rallies (this was accurate at least some years ago, could've changed but I don't think it has)
Wheeledness depends on the class. At the low end with more restrictive rules they're limited to whatever the car came with from the factory, towards the top they're all four wheel drive. Can't recall off the top of my head what the class rules were back in 2000.
Finally some Rally again! 🤩Felt like a week since yesterday :) Steeering wheel wont be straight anymore but it's expected to not be any sort off issue for the driver, to deal with an off geometry. you might not win anymore but have to be competitive, or stop and repair it by yourself to be competitive again.
IMO this was The Best time in Rally! Richard, Carlos, Collin, Tommy , Petter and many more of the great ones ive forgotten rn, and the BEST thing was, that you could go online with your newspaper and ACTUALLY BUY ONE OF THEM - not even tamed by a lot. If you had 7k more, you could buy the Carlos, Richard or Tommy Edition and some aftermarket parts, chip it and aaalmost had a freaking WRC, like them 🤩❤ PS: instead of the missing short sequential gearbox, you could simply go with a lower models gearbox, that refed out at 210 ;)
The car you didn't recognize is Toyota Corolla. In those days 4WD Focus was for rally purposes only but manufacturers had to make series of cars for public use too. In 90's it was at least 200 pieces. Please check WRC onboard videos too, like Rovanperä/Halttunen.
Just this morning I heard in a video about stingrays (the fish, not the car) that agility is nothing different than controlled instability. That sums up the core of Rally sport pretty well.
So the cars in this are basically: 1:05 Peugeot 206 1:12: Ford Focus 1:41 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI 2:04 Hyundai Accent ( Also a tip its pronouced Hyan-de like Hyan-day but without the last y) 2:08 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo V 2:58 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 3:08 SEAT Cordoba ( At this time SEAT is already VW's little Bi... :) and VW only entry into WRC ) 3:14 Toyota Corola (Spaceship) Most of them on the street were Caravans or as US calls them Estate wagons. 9:03 Peugeot 106 that's not an AWD car and it's not a WRC car, Its a lower category rally car. Maybe S2. As for the Setup its all AWD. Part the S2 class Peugeot 106. Also at this time they are all basically inline 4 cylinder (part the Subaru flat 4 cylinder) 2.0L Turbocharged around 300+ Hp. Yes that is a Sound to warn people of incoming cars :) Last they can all setup the cars to Take the Jumps smoothly, however, the issue With Finland is the Tracks have pretty flat, and Rarely bumpy Surface. With ocasional Jumps. At this era, Nobody wanted to sacrifice the Speed on the 80% of the track that benefits greatly with More Rigid setup, Shorter suspension Throws, Lower Tyre profile. So the cars are not good at taking Jumps, but Jumps are rare. Especially High Jumps. The cars can also be setup in depth with F:R ratio for weight and power delivery, braking bias etc... So what you are seeing is Cars are set up for Max attack for the 85% of the Rally, which is flat, But they kind of suck at 3-4 High Jumps, and the Drivers don't wanna lose any time, and look lame in front of the audience to brake for crest.
the marshals all have whistles to warn spectators of oncoming cars
Still, accidents sometimes happen. Last year at a rally event in my country there were people where thy shouldn't have been, one of the racers ran off the road and five of the spectators died and six injured. Now that I looked news up, there were also some similar rally accidents with spectator fatalities in Lithuania and Scotland
@@azminek7154 Duh.
The video is flipped, but the "Immot" Mitsu is actually "Tommi" mitsu, driven by the legendary Finnish 4 time champion Tommi Mäkinen, who absolutely made this team during his golden years. On top of 4 championships, he also won the Finnish WRC event 5 times, back to back, and the most legendary Rallye Monte Carlo event 4 times, back to back. One of the goats, and dominant drivers of his era for sure and absolute stud behind the wheel.
I think he mirrored it himself, as the progress bar also runs from right to left...
Tommi Mäkinen Touge video is also cool. I have never seen Keiichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya that intimidated.
I remember always wanted to have the special TME (Tommi Mäkinen Edition) Evo6, red with white rally wheels. Those are really rare & sells for mega bux today.
focus is also AWD, when it is in WRC, lower classes had fwd focuses
This era brings back so much nostalgia of playing Colin Mcrae Rally on the PS1, so many legendary cars!
Hi Ian the one car you could identify is a Toyota Corolla from 97/2000
Yep. I think there were two different Corollas there, so one of them must have been Rovanperä. Harri, Kalle's dad.
I was pretty sure that Toni Gardemeister (Finnish driver) was dirving Seat, went to check and saw I was right, but also Didier Auriol was driving one there. THAT I wouldn't have remembered.
pleas look up the story the did bent the rules with the Turbo so the had more horse power.
your right
E11 my first car which was as reliable as ugly, because rally 😂
I think that the Corolla in LPM livery was driven by Janne Tuohino.
I was co-driver in that rally in one of the cars shown. Great times
The Ford Focus RS was the first Ford in 20 years to be built with all-wheel drive again. Production takes place in the German city of Saarlouis. Sales started around 2015.
The Focus WRC seen here was 4WD; there was never a road car version.
The rules at the time didn't require full homologation specials like the Celica GT-Four; rather the rally car just had to match the length of the production car.
So many good drivers in this era Marko Martin, Petter Solberg, Tommi Mäkinen, Colin McRae, and so on. Ford Focus, Mitsubishi Lancer, Subaru Impreza, Peugoet 306 and so on. (I hope I got them right) They used a horn to warn people a car is coming.
One of them you forgot Marcus Grönholm (peugot 206 wrc) 🍺
Late Richard Burns 😢
The cars making heavy landings are Group N - or production - spec.
They have uprated suspension but not the increased wheel travel and trick dampers highly modified Group A/WRC cars have that absorb big impacts so well.
Exactly - warning whistles so people would know a car is comming.
I had a Seat Leon Cupra R (225 bhp). I bought it brand new for £17500 in 2003 and pretty much ran it into the ground. It was fairly nippy. 0-60 in 6.3 seconds (measured at Brands Hatch on a track day) but the book said 6.7.
It was a phenomenal family car too. Isofix (baby carriage fixings) in the back, full size spare, (which none of its rivals, the Honda type-r, Ford focus rs, MG etc had), a surprisingly roomy boot (trunk) and a not terrible sound system.
Great, great car. My only gripe, was the rather "robust" suspension. You do NOT want to clatter a pot hole.
Love the content mate.
That’s cool to hear about. 🎉
Sounds like solid performance too. Bet it was lots of fun at Brands Hatch.. I love that track in the video games over the years
@IWrocker It was a fun car. Properly sticks to the road like the "proverbial to a blanket!", so particularly good around "the twisties", especially on a track.
A lot of people chipped theirs (There was a popular REVO one that took it to over 400bhp, but the torque steer was insane on those.)
Seat was bought out by the VW/Audi group, so the first iteration of the Cupra was a VW chassis and Audi TT engine ... You can't really go wrong there build quality wise.
I had mine for 18 years and the only engine issue ever, in all that time, was the sensor that monitored the CPU temperature.
Sorry for the full dissertation, but in my very humble opinion, "badge snobbery" was the only thing preventing it being as sought after as the Civic Type R and Focus RS.
The WRC Focus was all-wheel drive, and in Europe, there was a homologation model (Focus RS Mk1) of which 4501 units were built. It was front-wheel drive (I own one ❤ ).
Today if fans are seen on stage roads, stage gets cancelled . Poland for example , 7 years of prohabition aaaand they fakked up with crowd control again. Poland was dropped again from WRC calendar .
Yea same thing happend here in Finland few years ago ppl were walking on the road and and if i remember corecly on that stage they only drived 1 time then only few cars drived it again before it was canceled
It happens to Portugal to and people can ser why in rallye B videos 😅
It happens to Portugal to and people can see why in rallye B videos 😅
10:35 yes, they all were 4wd by regulations, all "world rally car" class were 4x4, turbo 2 litre engine like the Ford Focus, Peugeot 206, Seat Córdoba, Skoda Octavia, Toyota Corolla, Hyundai Accent...
If a part comes off while driving, it's the car telling you you're not going fast enough and it sheds extra weight to help.
So the big jump where the Mitsubishi lost it's underbody pan is I believe a certain one from "Urria" -stage. It's the only place in the whole rally that used to have an organiser placed "danger" -sign. You can't take it over 80km/h or you'll jump like the Mitsubishi.
The whistle is a "referee-whistle" that a marshall blow to tell the spectators a car is coming. In some places you don't always hear the engine sound.
The white and red-white cars are Toyota Corolla WRC's.
Yes. That was a Hyundai Accent. The Seat, Focus, Hyundai etc were all 4wd. There were some FWD cars on the video.
Nope, the underpan one was Palsankylä's big jump
@@Ackotoctoc Ok. I wasn't sure. I've actually never been that jump and in Urria only on the other side of the road.
the sound you were wondering about is actually local sound, it is to warn people to not go in front of the car or just saying another car is coming now watch it! :D
From 1951 till 1980, only Finnish and Swedish drivers won this Rally. Some of the Finnish drivers knew the stages by heart and a big part of their preparation was walking some 40-50 Kms, to try to find some places where they can cut (a little bit more) the corners, to gain decimals... Maybe 3/4 secs at the end of a 15 Kms stage
The 1st Generation was FWD including the RS, only the Rally Car was 4wd. It used a 4Zyl zetec engine.
The car was extremely modified compared to the RS which had a bare chassis with reinforcements which were used in the rally car too.
SEAT is part of the Volkswagen conglomerate. It was originally a Spanish car manufaturing company until its aquisition by VW in 1986.
11:00 - 1st generation Focus RS with four-wheel drive was offered in Germany since 2002, 2nd generation since 2004, 3rd since 2011.
Rally Finland in one of the faster rallies and unforgiving one at that (especialy in winter).
In 8:38 you had a jump and another jump ( in pacenotes the second one is marked as "maybe") with a right turn after them.
rally finland is the fastest rally. always been :)
From memory. The Ford Focus used as rally cars. Actually used to bodyshell from The American model. As it was slightly bigger than the European model.
I'm pretty sure it was just the bumpers stuck out more on the US model but the body was the same. Similar to how Peugeot brought out a special big bumper GT version so they could hit the requirements for vehicle length
"That car" is a Toyota Corrola WRC, Sainz and Auriol's car for 98/99 fought for the championship, but Makkinen and Mistubishi won at the end.
Yeah, I was surprised to see that Toyota wasn't a manufacturer entry in 2000 anymore (meaning; Rovanperä and others were driving for some private team with Corollas, or rentong those).
@@Garbox80 Toyota cancelled rally program due the Formula 1 program sucked the all funding
@@TunturiBreak95 Oh, that's right. Didn't even think about the reason, just would've thought it was a few years later they did that (but since it was because of the F1 project, makes perfect sense).
@@TunturiBreak95 there was also Le Mans Series Engagement of Toyota from 1998 on…
And I can actually see the WRC in Estonia this summer if I want to, or I can go to Finland.
All these rally drivers are legends with balls bigger than the moon
Best of mk2 escort rally vids 💓🇬🇧👍
Hello. I recommend (still in the WRC 90s category) the videos of "Kit Car rally". Literally, factory cars transformed with kits that you could order to turn your car into a rally car.
Peugeot 106, Citroën Saxo, Renault Megane, Seat Ibiza, Nissan Micra...
Hi Ian, the specific years of WRC to watch on this era is 97/98/99. End of the Makkinen domination, Kit-cars beat the WRCs on tarmac, before Loeb and Citroen's ultra domination (start in 2002 to 2004) for almost 10 years (end in 2012).
Great years, Sainz(Senior), McRae, Makkinen, Kankkunen, Auriol, Delecourt are still there. Gronholm, Burns, Solberg, Panizzi as tarmac expert. A very young Loeb entering the game... yes beside grB era, this is another golden age in rally in a sports way, even if the cars (the WRC's) was pretty weak back in the days. 97 to 2004 is the actual era if we can rank it.
These cars were under WRC specification that started 1997 and were evolution from Group A rules.
-Must be based on road car of minimum 2500 production units
-maximum 2.0 L engine
-Minimum weight 1230 kg/2712 lbs
- Maximum width 1770 mm
-maximum track width 1550 mm.
AWD, semi-automatic gearbox and so on were not mandatory on road cars
25000 units per year not 2500, actually. There's an error in Wikipedia. Group A needed 2500 so called "homolgation specials" - cars in exactly the same configuration as rally cars, but with road trim
@marekkuran4956 yeah i used wikipedia. 25000 it shall be
We really need to get you here to see this in person!
That is a brilliant idea 👍
Seat is from the VAG group
VW, audi, Porsche....
Love the VAG group...
Greats from Holland
The silver one, was a Hyundai Accent. The yellow one was a Seat Cordoba.
And the car you should know, was a Toyota Corolla 😊
I can remember clearly a report from either BBC or ITV on a rally in the 2000's , where the landings from jumps that the onboard cameras captured were so hard it was knocking the breath out of mainly the co-drivers . you could hear them struggling to breathe !!!
The whistle is used to warn people that a car is approaching!
Something you might be interested in is the "Speed Weekend" event in Sweden. It is basically a long straight on a frozen lake where anyone pretty much can bring anything as long as the organizers deem it safe enough and see how fast it goes. Hence, you get everything from those who build their cars and bikes up to insane specifications and pretty much go for the land speed record on ice, as well as those who are more like "yeah, I decided to strap an engine to this old bicycle and am happy as long as it goes faster than I could pedal manually".
One of the better channels I have seen documenting this event, filming the vehicles and interviewing their owners is "Motornörd" which translates to "motor/engine nerd". Unfortunately it is all in Swedish, it does have subtitles in Swedish but UA-cam's auto-translation into English is not great. However, on his videos of speed weekend 2019 he actually added real English subtitles, they're not the best but totally understandable and a lot better than youtube's auto translation.
Once upon a time, reporters conducted a poll among drivers about their favorite rally in the World Championship, and the Finnish Rally won :)
These were the years when less powered and FWD Kit cars were faster on tarmac than 4WD WRC beasts.... which effectively killed the 2-liter F2 cup. I think that yellow Ibiza at 4:52 could be an F2 Kit car, since I don't remember exactly in which year the series was discontinued....
The car we saw was the Cordoba, which was developed after the big success of the Ibiza KitCar.
The Kitcar won some championships and so Seat wanted something to compete at the top class of WRC, they made the Cordoba, which was a great car, but was too fragile, so that car never made it to the top unfortunately.
I'm the happy owner of a Seat Ibiza 6k2 (the model after the one that was made to be KitCar) and honestly even as a commuter it's really fun to drive.
In Europe a lot of them get modified, they came with TDi engines so yeah you see the deal.
The Cupra variants tho can seriously be a fast hatchback, be it the 2.0 ABF, which with some work can put out 600hp + or the 1.8T 20VT which is already know by most people
1.8 never lose
The yellow one is a Seat Cordoba, and the white one after the the european spec late 90s Corolla ( i think the us one is completely different)
i think the seat driver was either toni gardemeister (finnish) or kalle rovanperä's father Harri Rovanperä
Jean Ragnotti - Renault Clio Maxi
Pure madness...
Not many people could drive fwd like him, maybe bugalski and panizzi
Hi there from Portugal!
The car you didn't recognize was a Toyota Corola WRC, the yellow is a Seat Cordoba WRC and there was algo a Hyundai Accent WRC in there .
The reason for the damage on those slower car was, besides some over driving, that they are a lower spec (group n/production) and have allot worst suspension than the top WRC spec ones (factory Mitsubishi was still a Group A)
All WRC were all wheel drive, in the video there was only one fwd, the Peugeot 106 that broke the front bumper.
There were several fwd classes, F2 (ex: Renault Clio Maxi, Renault Megane Maxi, Peugeot 306 Maxi..) , S1600 (Peugeot 106 S1600, Ford Puma S1600), in group N there was also some fwd.
Also an unfortunate yet kind of funny fact about these shots is the fact that camera men often get pelted by the rocks trying to get the best shots.
I've been next to one and the dude had to do it for 3 days. He had some kind of protective shield for his head and body but not his legs lol.
Toyota Corolla, is the one you're not recognising.
That Focus (#6 car) is driven by Carlos Sainz Sr. Father of F1 driver Carlos Sainz Jr. And Sr. is 62 years old and is still active driver. He's currently competing is Dakar Rally. This year he's driving Ford Raptor T1+ car that has Coyote V8. Previously he was driving for Audi, VW, Mini and Peugeot.
Only the Mk4 Focus RS was 4WD/AWD all other generations were FWD
One way to try and tell if a car is all wheel drive or only front wheel drive is to look at the amount of roost coming off the rear wheels, if the rear wheels are powered/driven they will throw up a lot more roost than if it is only front wheel drive.
Yeah dude, the road marshalls all have whistles to warn of approaching cars, great content once again, kicked out of the park, again,Ian, thumbs up sir, greetings to all the family, keep up the great content sir,chau for now
Sweden and Finland are the best rally countries
That wastegate noise from the Subaru. 🤤
The stage marshals have whistles or Air Horns to warn spectators that a car is coming through the stage.
If somebody has a slight oopsie bad enough to have to close the stage to be able to perform rescue and recovery they give an extended blast with an Air Horn.
There is a good example of this on Day 2 of the 1996 RAC Rally on the live special stage they broadcast on TV from the grounds of Chatsworth House when Gywndaf Evans and Robbie Head both managed to slide wide, clip the back of thei cars against a tree stump, and got pitched into rollover crashes that trashed the rollcage.
Channel: VHS Rallies
Video Title: 1996 Network Q RAC Rally (day two, early)
(about 25 to 34mins into the coverage)
6:33 imagine the massive shock the driver felt on the landing! But he still had to stay focused to maintain control of the car and have quick and sharp reflexes to correct the trajectory of the car. That car was heading towards the ditch, but he immediately counter steered to keep it on the road
Stepping on the road and returning a few seconds before the car like that would lead to quite immediate cancellation of the stage nowadays. Fortunately such behavior is history.
In the late 90s early 00s you had manufactures like Mitsubishi, Subaru, Seat, Toyota, Ford, Škoda, Citroen, Hyundai, Peugeot you had all different types of manufactures.
2:50 Yeah, you have to position the wheels for the next curve right before the crest/as you gain air. It's a delicate art, so entertaining 😁
Tbh, here in Finland we have one of the smoothest dirt roads i have seen. It's not unusual to drive 50-60 mph over them without any problem. You hardly even notice you are on dirt...
1:33 funny to see the extra indicators in the grill and the position side lights.(which in Europe would have been triangular and turn signals(also used in the Gallardo))
BUT: I have seen this US-Style Focus before. In Need for Speed Underground.
The late '90s early 2000s period was the peak of rallying, even surpassing the Group B era in popularity.
bro stop drinking soda and remembered how cool rally was
When you go spectate baseball, you can occasionally get a knocked out ball to bring home. When you go watch Rally Finland, you bring home stray car parts :D
Me driving when the store is closing and there's no beer in the fridge..
All cars on these clips are AWD, except the Peugeot 106 at 9:07 (fwd)
There were no AWD 1st gen Ford Focus on the roads. I don't think theres any shared parts between the WRC and the stock Focus other than the badge.... :D
I'm glad someone noticed the 106 maxi. I will have to watch the full video to see if there is more footage since my own is in bits again. Haha.
12:33 Yes. That's a Hyundai Accent.
Ian, I think you might enjoy a documentary about B-class rally, Riding balls of fire, if you can find it. It tells the short-lived experiment of non-restricted cars and it was pure insanity, including the spectator aspect! Most of the still living drivers are interviewed and their stories are pretty wild. While the drivers absolutely loved it, all agreed it had to end, when it did. Hope you can find it somewhere, those times in rally were something else..
it's the fastest rally in the WRC calendar and has the greatest rally stage of all time, Ouninpohja.
The suspension on WRC cars is insane. Love the imprezza 2000 year model.
Fun fact: Walter Röhrl didn't want do drive Rally Finland, he said: "If he wanted to fly he would be a pilot." ^^
The Lombard RAC was a really good rally back in the eighties.
The Focus was 4WD and based on the Ford Focus Climate 2.0 litre production hatchback.
The Focus Rally car of that era was made AWD. Also that Hyundai was an Accent, which was also only made AWD for rally. Normally FWD.
Rally often was the test bed for new drives. I wouldn't be surprised, if the AWD Focus RS was born out of the Rally R&D.
There is not only Finnish drivers in this rally, it’s WRC Rally with all the best rally drivers in the world. We have had it since 1951.
I think he knows that it’s just the rally race he’s looking at that’s taking place in Finland
5:00 This is a whistle from the spectators, which alerts other spectators who are further away that a rally car is approaching, purely for safety reasons, it's been an unwritten rule for decades :
Its from the marshals
the 2025 world cup stage in Finland will be from July 31st to August 3rd...if you're interested! 😉 the first stop will be in Monte-Carlo (23-26 January)
Late 80s early 90s, Lancia Delta, Escort Cosworth...
6:26 that rear end came down super hard.. that had to feel at the drivers seat.. your spine will remember it Yes focus was only AWD in the rally. Ford came up with awd later in 2015-> I think
I remember Markus Gronholm's copilot had his coccyx broken from one of those jumps
8,03 there is no way you can discribe that. It was Juha Kankkunen with his Subaru, we were walking uphill and Juha stormed pass us. Loud a bang. No way to describe that,
There is a clip of Viato Zala taking air on a right hander the car control is beyond thus earth.
man i love those old subarus, they look so slick
If you like this, you should look into B-series rally. Completely insane. Engines tuned so high they had to be changed for every rally, combined with as light cars as possible.
Also the speeds on dirt are rather casual compared to speeds on asphalt in southern european stages. I dare you to dry any rally simulator game on these.
You need to check out Rally safari from that era, brutal. The rally cars had extra armour to deal with it 😂
Focus AWD 😉👍🏻.
This Focus exists in an RS version 4X4 for the Road with 225 HP in Europe, homologation production card to can participate in the WRC championship 😉.
But can’t tell you if this RS Road version was sales in the USA. Good question 😄🤷🏻♂️👍🏻.
The first manufacturer to bring AWD to top level rallying was Audi with the Sport Quattro in early 80's to break the dominance of Lancia, which they achieved convincingly, which then also kicked off the development race of what become the madness of Group 4. Ford arrived at the Group 4 party with the RS200 and Stig Blomqvist, prior to that it was Ari Vatanen driving the MkII Escort RS1800. After the demise of Group 4 Ford developed the Sierra XR4x4 Cosworth driven by Carlos Sainz Senior.
Scandinavian drivers have always been a dominant force in Rally driving, Marku Alen, Ari Vatanen, Hannu Mikkola, Juha Kankkunen, Stig Blomqvist, Timo Salonen, Tommi Makinen (probably the greatest Scandinavian driver), Marcus Gronholm, Petter Solberg, Oit Tanak (who had the 'misfortune' of racing against the supremely talanted French driver Sebastian Ogier) and most recetly Kalle Rovanpera.
The Rally Finland (which used to be called the 1000 Lakes) also used to be held in winter snow and ice with the same high speeds, hence the dominance of Scandinavian drivers throughout the history of what is now WRC. The British round of the WRC also used to be held in winter too. The Lombard RAC Rally (as it was called back then) was famous for having to tackle the notorious Kielder Forest in Northumbria, in Northern England in the Cheviot Hills which border the Scottish Southern Uplands. Whilst not being the highest or particularly high mountains, due to their more Northerly latitude and remote location often provided for challenging driving conditions which were frequently augmented by inclement weather, i.e. wind, driving rain and/or snow were not uncommon.
Gradually the FIA/WRC began moving what had previously been difficult winter rallies to either spring or summer dates, thereby attempting to reduce the dominance of Scandinavian drivers, which allowed for the rise to prominence of more non Scandinavian drivers more frequently, with the likes of Miki Biasion, Carlos Sainz, Didier Auriol, Colin McRae, Richard Burns, Sebastien Loeb, and Sebastien Ogier also becoming greats of the sport.
Often, like so many motorsports, you have periods of dominance by a particular manufacturer, before AWD it was fairly even, afterwards, the first period of dominance was by Audi (Quattro), then came Peugeot (205 T16), followed by a returning Lancia (Delta Integrale HF). Then the Japanese brands started to get involved, beginning with Toyota (Celica Turbo 4WD), then Subaru (Impreza 555), and Mitsubishi (various iterations of the Lancer Evo). Citroen had a long spell at the top (with various cars, Xsara, C4, DS3), followed by a few years of Volkswagen (Polo R WRC) and finally Ford got back to the top of the pile with the Fiesta WRC. The last team to dominate recently have been Toyota again, but this time with the Gazoo Racing Yaris Rally 1. However, last year Hyundai took their first WRC crown.
Rally Finland/1000 Lakes is the best off road rally, but Rallye Monte Carlo and Rallye Corsica are the best tarmac rallies, after that they're all much of a muchness, no one rally is particularly bad, their just not quite as stacked from start to finish as the other three
Rally Finland to rally is like Wimbledon to tennis.
One of my favourite parts of this video was seeing Tommi Mäkinen in action again! Pretty sure he's the only driver to ever(?) have his first name in big letters on the front and back of the car as part of the livery! Either way, he's one of the MANY succsesful rally drivers from Finland!
His teammate Freddy Loix had the writing Freddy on his Evo, because the FIA banned the cigarette advertising on the cars. It was Marlboro originally. Like in the F1 when in the Mclaren's West writing changed to Kimi.
First big jump was Palsankylä i sit right there in the top. Group A are 4wheel drive was very nice 4 days off Neste Ralli Finland
Finland was one of my favorite stages on colln mc rea rally with the audi or mg metro.
Rally Finland has the highest stage average speeds of all the rallies (this was accurate at least some years ago, could've changed but I don't think it has)
Kalle made new Ouninpohja record, 136 kmhs average .
5:09 race steward blows whisle to alert fans.
Wheeledness depends on the class. At the low end with more restrictive rules they're limited to whatever the car came with from the factory, towards the top they're all four wheel drive. Can't recall off the top of my head what the class rules were back in 2000.
Finally some Rally again! 🤩Felt like a week since yesterday :)
Steeering wheel wont be straight anymore but it's expected to not be any sort off issue for the driver, to deal with an off geometry. you might not win anymore but have to be competitive, or stop and repair it by yourself to be competitive again.
IMO this was The Best time in Rally! Richard, Carlos, Collin, Tommy , Petter and many more of the great ones ive forgotten rn, and the BEST thing was, that you could go online with your newspaper and ACTUALLY BUY ONE OF THEM - not even tamed by a lot. If you had 7k more, you could buy the Carlos, Richard or Tommy Edition and some aftermarket parts, chip it and aaalmost had a freaking WRC, like them 🤩❤
PS: instead of the missing short sequential gearbox, you could simply go with a lower models gearbox, that refed out at 210 ;)
So many good names here, like IMMOT 😂 watching this kinda action never gets old ...❤
The car you didn't recognize is Toyota Corolla. In those days 4WD Focus was for rally purposes only but manufacturers had to make series of cars for public use too. In 90's it was at least 200 pieces. Please check WRC onboard videos too, like Rovanperä/Halttunen.
Just this morning I heard in a video about stingrays (the fish, not the car) that agility is nothing different than controlled instability. That sums up the core of Rally sport pretty well.
The TOMMI -livery on the Evo gives me such massive nostalgia
So the cars in this are basically:
1:05 Peugeot 206
1:12: Ford Focus
1:41 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI
2:04 Hyundai Accent ( Also a tip its pronouced Hyan-de like Hyan-day but without the last y)
2:08 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo V
2:58 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti
3:08 SEAT Cordoba ( At this time SEAT is already VW's little Bi... :) and VW only entry into WRC )
3:14 Toyota Corola (Spaceship) Most of them on the street were Caravans or as US calls them Estate wagons.
9:03 Peugeot 106 that's not an AWD car and it's not a WRC car, Its a lower category rally car. Maybe S2.
As for the Setup its all AWD. Part the S2 class Peugeot 106.
Also at this time they are all basically inline 4 cylinder (part the Subaru flat 4 cylinder) 2.0L Turbocharged around 300+ Hp.
Yes that is a Sound to warn people of incoming cars :)
Last they can all setup the cars to Take the Jumps smoothly, however, the issue With Finland is the Tracks have pretty flat, and Rarely bumpy Surface. With ocasional Jumps.
At this era, Nobody wanted to sacrifice the Speed on the 80% of the track that benefits greatly with More Rigid setup, Shorter suspension Throws, Lower Tyre profile. So the cars are not good at taking Jumps, but Jumps are rare. Especially High Jumps.
The cars can also be setup in depth with F:R ratio for weight and power delivery, braking bias etc...
So what you are seeing is Cars are set up for Max attack for the 85% of the Rally, which is flat, But they kind of suck at 3-4 High Jumps, and the Drivers don't wanna lose any time, and look lame in front of the audience to brake for crest.
The Seats you see are first gen Leons. Technically identical to the Golf MK4 and the design was inspired by the Alfa Romeo Alfsud from the 70s
They are Cordobas.
One of those driver's in a Focus was none other than Mr "If in doubt, flat out" himself....Colin McRae !!
the one with the round headlight is a corolla