It seems like it’s mostly the non-Commanders fans that are bad mouthing the offense. What other team can say they scored on every drive in a game? Less than 3???? Ppl are crazy. We have a brand new…..everything. It’s ignorant to think we are going to be as good as KC in our first year. Yes, DEF needs to be better just like we need more TDs. But I’m absolutely satisfied with how we are right now. Trust the process!!!! HTTC!!!!
Why does it matter if they throw the ball deep down field. The last time I checked, they are moving the football. They just need to get the ball in the endzone. They are not turning the ball over either.
How to say you don’t know Kliff without saying. Kliff is a horrible play caller and is a loser at every level of football. He’s a decent play designer but when it comes to play calling he has no creativity or flow. It showed against the Giants and Buccs with the designed QB runs and excessive screens. I had concerns coming into the season about him and he’s justifying them.
I can see why Devonte Adams said what he said about our fan base! Some fans are traumatized for the last 30+ years! 😂 Rome wasn’t built in a day and neither is this team! AP has a lot to do to add the necessary winning pieces to this franchise! Some fans will NEVER be satisfied because they are use to losing and don’t know how to turn the corner mentally. HTTR!✊🏾
He didn’t call them out though. He just pointed out a few players who’s been playing fast and aggressive. His omission of them is not a call out. Thats reaching!!
We just have to be patient with JD5, when he’s comfortable throwing to Terry he will. Just trust the progress! He just might break out on the big stage!
@@traceybarretto-zr8yt That’s exactly what happened! Great offensive game against the Bengals! Our fans are still shell-shocked from years of losing but it’s over! We have our franchise QB!
@@rickwatts6969 There a thing called chemistry that needs to be established! We have an entire new coaching staff and players trying to gel together! I know we have been traumatized as a fan base and want to win! I do to! However, coaches are still trying to piece together the team and winning formula! Again, just 2 games! HTTR4LIFE!
@rickwatts6969 What does the mean exactly? Does professional play mean just winning? Getting 50 TDs per game? Rushing for 300 yards? Please elaborate that they are not playing as a professional team.
Professional play as in not a college scheme that has proven to fail at the NFL level in AZ. The play calling has been horrible. Causing JD5 to bail out Kliff with 3rd and long scrambles. The offense is better because of the QB play, not the detrimental play calling.
My understanding is that Payne and Allen were double teamed every Giants offensive play, they went 'maxpro' which uses 2 tight ends as blockers so they could pull this off. If their play has been worse, the Giants would not have run this package every play. Allen said they got 'the pill' which means they were going to be shut out of making a big play all game, but that allows others to make plays so they are ok with it.
But having no flow or creativity in play calling limits the opportunity for deep shots, especially when he runs 4-5 screens on 1 drive. He’s too predictable. You are aware JD5 is the reason the offense is more consistent, not the OC. How many times has JD5 have to scramble on a 3rd and long and bail out Kliff’s horrible play calling and keep drives alive?
I am a diehard Redskin fan …. but as of this moment, I wouldn’t pick Washington +8 …. not with the way this defense has played so far. I’m really concerned that Monday Night is going to be a problem. This has all of the ingredients for a big loss. I hope I’m wrong.
DQ explained that making Jamin inactive was a numbers decision. Newton was on a snap count, and they needed an extra DT for the rotation against the Giants vs. an extra DE like we did against the Bucs, when Newton didn't play. Kiem confirmed that Jamin Davis would be active Monday.
My opinion is that who cares what fans or media think. We all want instant gratification. I’d rather build his confidence and slowly develop him instead of getting the next Bryce young because we can’t be patient.
I kinda disagree with a lot of analysis comments. It's just too early. This is a 65% turnover of players. Allow this team to grow in chemistry and communication. Ya'll make it seem like they have been together for several years. Let them get settled. It will take up to 4 games to settle in. Geees....
They’re talking about Kingbury’s offense but Daniel’s is the rookie QB that has no picks and performing better than all the QB rookies and that he still is a rookie but is not performing like one his stats are better than some of pro QB’s…..why are we expecting quick returns on a first year quarterback?…… this isn’t RGIII!!!!!!!!!…..he’s already performing about expectations!!!!!!!?……what more can we ask for?????…….I’m not going to talk about the defense that’s a whole other conversation!!!!!!!?
Trade them all at this point! I’m tired of our stars not performing! WE PAY THEM TOO MUCH FOR THIS NONSENSE! 😤EVERYONE ELSE’ STARS ARE FREAKIN’ BALLIN’!! 😠
Allen needs to be traded for our future, 2 weeks in - fuck the noise i have two schools of thought 1. stay conservative, build through the draft - we get a good draft pick, season ends sub 500, the likely Peters scenario 2. we swing, our offense is viable, we bolster defense - get Reddick, get a CB(Lattimore), win now and attach Jamin Davis and Forbes to trade packages; dump Allen
I been said Kingsburys offense was mid, the key element to it is having a mobile QB that will hide the deficiencies but it hasn’t been fully unlocked until JD makes more of the mid and deep passes
kliff offense has made it to the redzone almost every drive. negating penalties in the redzone you would be saying Kliff is amazing… trust the process hes just integrating him into the offense and is doing a great job.
@@justman9925 No I wouldn’t his offense is mid and thankfully we have a mobile QB that can get out the pocket and give Kingsbury more chances to throw screen plays
@@postitrandomly3638 Bingo but Kingsbury isn’t doing anything special that warranted the hype besides that Eckler screen otger than that his play calling can be a little greedy. Ex Brob runs for 30-40 yds and then on the next play tries to give right back to him as if he wasn’t tired from the last and we lose yds and a down 🤦🏽♂️
It’s only been two games and the team has 1-1 record. Statistically the offense is moving the ball consistently without Terry being involved and that’s a good thing in my book. If the team keeps moving the ball and convert some of those field goals into touchdowns it’s just a matter of time before Terry explodes
Jamin Davis is still dealing with his legal issue of speeding for the second time He has not been in front of a judge for sentencing. He could do 30 days of probation. So it's a wait-and-see. This is why a healthy Davis is not playing.
Here is my question about Terry...When you see these deep balls to Terry in camp/practice, is JD doing it with the same amount of time as in games? In other words, does JD get the same amount of time to throw the ball as he is getting in practice, or JD gets more time in practice to wait for Terry to get open, and with our corners and dline, is it even close to being the same pressure?
Jamin was on the inactive list because they had Newton playing and didn’t want him to have too many snaps. So they needed an extra interior defensive lineman to help limit his snaps. So Jamin had to be inactive based on the depth chart. According to Dan Quinn.
Kingsbury's offense had nothing to do with all of the false start penalties in the red zone last week. It is a work in progress and the first two regular season games in the NFL are like preseason games now. They could have easily scored 40 points against the Giants and dominated time of possession. If you control the ball and don't turn it over, you will win the majority of your games.
This is a different game than the Joe Gibbs days. There's a cap, so you can't just sign away like it's funny money. They don't do 2-a-days and hitting in TC so they are still getting up to game speed and hitting. Literally, everything is new, owner, players (including a rookie QB), coaches. It takes time to gel, to know what you have, your football identity, and coaches meshing. Looks like we are pretty balanced between pass and rush, but passing is taking longer. We are getting to the RZ, which is hard enough, but scoring TDs from there is even harder on a compressed field of play. It's going to take time, and this is year 1; we don't have all the players we need. As long as we are competitive, I'm all in; last year we looked like a college team playing in the NFL. Bad coaching and bad players, there is a reason we replaced 2/3 of the roster.
Quinn & Whitt have to allow JAMIN DAVIS to play 50% of the snaps & when we beat Cincinnati that will prove ,Forbes& Daron Payne is the majority Problems
Every thing I said last season is getting said this season💯 I been said trade Allen while we can💯I said trade Terry for the best of both sides💯 get Jayden the players that plays for his scheme fit💯 play Ben sinnot now💯 have ertz come in 3rd downs or some, trade for Greg newsome💯 draft Travis hunter with 1st pick we got, DE if we can get a 1st for Terry💯and the plus is Travis hunter can also help with defense if he gets some reps with defense‼️
Trade Jon Allen “Mr. All Bark No Bite” this week. He going to show up to the game with his do-rag on, mugging trying to hype up everyone before the game then go out there and get half a tackle. Bruh is not it. His salary last season was more than Aaron Donald who gets tripled teamed and produced more. Send him on his way.
@@thabruhfrom9444 ok… Chase did what in San Francisco and is doing what in New Orleans? Montez is another story. I never was one with trading him. Still what does that have to do with Allen’s production? He had one good season and a few “solid” ones to go along. He’s not on a trajectory to a “Gold Jacket”. Just keeping it real fam.
the offensive line isn't that good yet would rather have jayden look like caleb williams or some of these second year quarterbacks that bare throwing interceptions because they are forcing it or holding it too long and getting sacked
How do you explain TM having such great success the last 4 years with just average QB, and having such a below average this season. Kingsberry offense is not looking good so far, how do you not get your best WR involved more into your offense. The Giants and Eagles both won their games (this is posted before the finale score of the Cowboys game). I was shocked to see the Giants Defeat the Browns. If the Commanders lose against the Bengles, I really don't see them going very far this season. I hope at least the Cowboys lose later.
You know it’s the LBs responsible for the run defense and filling gaps. Having the worst LB corp for years was why the run defense was bad. Allen and Payne were doing their thing and eating up blocks.
Only the panthers would do something that dumb and even then I think Carolina is smarter than giving a first round pick for him. I was thinking 2 third round picks and a sack of potatoes is good enough for him to be gone
@@JG-vq6rd so it is that funny to you that you laugh at yourself haha he haha I’m glad I was employed to your embarrassment of a bday party. No wonder you laugh with pain. The dollar store did call they want the opinion you bought for half hooker price the generic version.
@@kennymeekselfuego 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ I shouldn’t even respond but I will explain to you. Only the dumb ašs panthers would be stupid enough to give up a first round pick for Allen. You know the worst team in the league with the worst GM and owner.. yea that team would be the only one who could make a brain dead move like that… and even then I think they have more competence then that
It seems like it’s mostly the non-Commanders fans that are bad mouthing the offense. What other team can say they scored on every drive in a game? Less than 3???? Ppl are crazy. We have a brand new…..everything. It’s ignorant to think we are going to be as good as KC in our first year. Yes, DEF needs to be better just like we need more TDs. But I’m absolutely satisfied with how we are right now. Trust the process!!!! HTTC!!!!
Me too...well spoken
Amen brother. Rico likes to stir the pot a little, but that's part of why we all love him ;-)
Facts!!!!
RICO! Best Redskin podcasts on the net. I don't mind at all that you post alot of them late because I'm a night owl. Keep up the great work bro.
Facts
Why does it matter if they throw the ball deep down field. The last time I checked, they are moving the football. They just need to get the ball in the endzone. They are not turning the ball over either.
They don't need to. They just need to act like the are going to a couple times so teams don't load the box
They do but Jayden doesn't see the open wr down the field at times@@brandoncrittenden3939
Allen needs to seriously step up
Should’ve been traded
@@HTTR_FORLIFE21agreed
Trust me by 100%, he sucks. Gets stone walled by backups.
We had EB as the OC last season! Do fans want EB back? Let our new OC do what he needs to do! Again, just 2 games in fam! Relax!!!
Facts. We can actually move the ball now. Didn’t even punt. I was use to seeing 5 punts a game
Factssssssss
They’re playing with Cliff! Stupid! EB was BEYOND TERRIBLE! Get rid of the players that are complaining
How to say you don’t know Kliff without saying. Kliff is a horrible play caller and is a loser at every level of football. He’s a decent play designer but when it comes to play calling he has no creativity or flow. It showed against the Giants and Buccs with the designed QB runs and excessive screens. I had concerns coming into the season about him and he’s justifying them.
I can see why Devonte Adams said what he said about our fan base! Some fans are traumatized for the last 30+ years! 😂 Rome wasn’t built in a day and neither is this team! AP has a lot to do to add the necessary winning pieces to this franchise! Some fans will NEVER be satisfied because they are use to losing and don’t know how to turn the corner mentally. HTTR!✊🏾
Allen was complaining about the commander losing a lot he was part of that and still is.
Lawd I feel bad for our DB’s
He didn’t call them out though. He just pointed out a few players who’s been playing fast and aggressive. His omission of them is not a call out. Thats reaching!!
In the R.A.S. for reach, Rico scored a perfect 10.0...lol
Higgins trying to show out n audition for us to come n get him!!
We just have to be patient with JD5, when he’s comfortable throwing to Terry he will. Just trust the progress! He just might break out on the big stage!
@@traceybarretto-zr8yt That’s exactly what happened! Great offensive game against the Bengals! Our fans are still shell-shocked from years of losing but it’s over! We have our franchise QB!
He also calling out Chinn and Sainristil
Yes Mike have been getting cooked om the low
ITS JUST 2 DAMN GAMES!!! This is a total rebuild this season! If you think we are going to the SB; I got golden bridge to sell you!
This is also the NFL..and I expect professional play.
@@rickwatts6969 There a thing called chemistry that needs to be established! We have an entire new coaching staff and players trying to gel together! I know we have been traumatized as a fan base and want to win! I do to! However, coaches are still trying to piece together the team and winning formula! Again, just 2 games! HTTR4LIFE!
@rickwatts6969
What does the mean exactly? Does professional play mean just winning? Getting 50 TDs per game? Rushing for 300 yards? Please elaborate that they are not playing as a professional team.
Professional play as in not a college scheme that has proven to fail at the NFL level in AZ. The play calling has been horrible. Causing JD5 to bail out Kliff with 3rd and long scrambles. The offense is better because of the QB play, not the detrimental play calling.
@@mr.p718nah you’re right
When Allen get back to playing decent trade him at his highest peak. He too inconsistent
Do you even watch him play?
Must not! He’s the one that’s not inconsistent
My understanding is that Payne and Allen were double teamed every Giants offensive play, they went 'maxpro' which uses 2 tight ends as blockers so they could pull this off. If their play has been worse, the Giants would not have run this package every play. Allen said they got 'the pill' which means they were going to be shut out of making a big play all game, but that allows others to make plays so they are ok with it.
J Allen had the fingers pointed to the edge rushers and they mysteriously disappeared. His predraft injuries have caught up to him.
We sign Armstrong to a 30 million dollar deal from the cowboys. I haven't heard his name mentioned omce
If Jayden chooses not to throw down the field to an open wr that's not on Kliff
But having no flow or creativity in play calling limits the opportunity for deep shots, especially when he runs 4-5 screens on 1 drive. He’s too predictable. You are aware JD5 is the reason the offense is more consistent, not the OC. How many times has JD5 have to scramble on a 3rd and long and bail out Kliff’s horrible play calling and keep drives alive?
@@thabruhfrom9444you’re both right.
If Stephon diggs went through what Terry went through he woulda been traded out of Washington twice already
I am a diehard Redskin fan …. but as of this moment, I wouldn’t pick Washington +8 …. not with the way this defense has played so far. I’m really concerned that Monday Night is going to be a problem. This has all of the ingredients for a big loss. I hope I’m wrong.
I think when they talking about the receiver that's open. They're talking about McCaffrey.
The Oline needs to give JD a little more time and he's gonna hit deep throws
DQ explained that making Jamin inactive was a numbers decision. Newton was on a snap count, and they needed an extra DT for the rotation against the Giants vs. an extra DE like we did against the Bucs, when Newton didn't play. Kiem confirmed that Jamin Davis would be active Monday.
Then let them get a coaching job and do what they want with a rookie qb ..... he's a rookie qb !!!!!
My opinion is that who cares what fans or media think. We all want instant gratification. I’d rather build his confidence and slowly develop him instead of getting the next Bryce young because we can’t be patient.
I kinda disagree with a lot of analysis comments. It's just too early. This is a 65% turnover of players. Allow this team to grow in chemistry and communication. Ya'll make it seem like they have been together for several years. Let them get settled. It will take up to 4 games to settle in. Geees....
They’re talking about Kingbury’s offense but Daniel’s is the rookie QB that has no picks and performing better than all the QB rookies and that he still is a rookie but is not performing like one his stats are better than some of pro QB’s…..why are we expecting quick returns on a first year quarterback?…… this isn’t RGIII!!!!!!!!!…..he’s already performing about expectations!!!!!!!?……what more can we ask for?????…….I’m not going to talk about the defense that’s a whole other conversation!!!!!!!?
Trade them all at this point! I’m tired of our stars not performing! WE PAY THEM TOO MUCH FOR THIS NONSENSE! 😤EVERYONE ELSE’ STARS ARE FREAKIN’ BALLIN’!! 😠
Allen has performed on a team that was god awful with almost no help
Witt is holding players accountable ❤😂
Allen needs to be traded for our future, 2 weeks in - fuck the noise
i have two schools of thought
1. stay conservative, build through the draft - we get a good draft pick, season ends sub 500, the likely Peters scenario
2. we swing, our offense is viable, we bolster defense - get Reddick, get a CB(Lattimore), win now and attach Jamin Davis and Forbes to trade packages; dump Allen
I been said Kingsburys offense was mid, the key element to it is having a mobile QB that will hide the deficiencies but it hasn’t been fully unlocked until JD makes more of the mid and deep passes
kliff offense has made it to the redzone almost every drive. negating penalties in the redzone you would be saying Kliff is amazing… trust the process hes just integrating him into the offense and is doing a great job.
@@justman9925 No I wouldn’t his offense is mid and thankfully we have a mobile QB that can get out the pocket and give Kingsbury more chances to throw screen plays
@@generalblaze5488His offense fits the QB we have. The QB is just still young. He’s missed a lot of big plays down the field
@@postitrandomly3638 Bingo but Kingsbury isn’t doing anything special that warranted the hype besides that Eckler screen otger than that his play calling can be a little greedy. Ex Brob runs for 30-40 yds and then on the next play tries to give right back to him as if he wasn’t tired from the last and we lose yds and a down 🤦🏽♂️
I agree
Double teamed? Its not enough.
Why we acting like the online did not cause 8 flags in red zone last 2weeks 😒😒not in kliff we ain’t run half the plays what he was gone call
How many 3rd and longs did JD5 have to bail Kliff out of… on the 1st drive of the Giants game alone? Kliff is a detriment.
It’s only been two games and the team has 1-1 record. Statistically the offense is moving the ball consistently without Terry being involved and that’s a good thing in my book. If the team keeps moving the ball and convert some of those field goals into touchdowns it’s just a matter of time before Terry explodes
Jamin Davis is still dealing with his legal issue of speeding for the second time
He has not been in front of a judge for sentencing. He could do 30 days of probation. So it's a wait-and-see. This is why a healthy Davis is not playing.
That case was resolved in March
Just because legal action is resolved doesn’t mean the process is over. He still needs sentencing.
I'm beginning to think the captain designation is meaningless. What is their responsibility? Bringing donuts before the game?
And hype speech before the game?
Here is my question about Terry...When you see these deep balls to Terry in camp/practice, is JD doing it with the same amount of time as in games? In other words, does JD get the same amount of time to throw the ball as he is getting in practice, or JD gets more time in practice to wait for Terry to get open, and with our corners and dline, is it even close to being the same pressure?
Jamin was on the inactive list because they had Newton playing and didn’t want him to have too many snaps. So they needed an extra interior defensive lineman to help limit his snaps. So Jamin had to be inactive based on the depth chart. According to Dan Quinn.
Yessirrr
Kingsbury's offense had nothing to do with all of the false start penalties in the red zone last week. It is a work in progress
and the first two regular season games in the NFL are like preseason games now. They could have easily scored 40 points against
the Giants and dominated time of possession. If you control the ball and don't turn it over, you will win the majority of your games.
The offensive line is not the best. JD get pressure he just looking to run. He not running to pass.
This is a different game than the Joe Gibbs days. There's a cap, so you can't just sign away like it's funny money. They don't do 2-a-days and hitting in TC so they are still getting up to game speed and hitting. Literally, everything is new, owner, players (including a rookie QB), coaches. It takes time to gel, to know what you have, your football identity, and coaches meshing. Looks like we are pretty balanced between pass and rush, but passing is taking longer. We are getting to the RZ, which is hard enough, but scoring TDs from there is even harder on a compressed field of play. It's going to take time, and this is year 1; we don't have all the players we need. As long as we are competitive, I'm all in; last year we looked like a college team playing in the NFL. Bad coaching and bad players, there is a reason we replaced 2/3 of the roster.
Rico, you can't attack down the field if you can't pass block... Face it, the OL outside of Cosmi is suspect at best..
is it fair to say JD To Terrry looks good only because its against our cornerbacks 🤔
Terry is a body bag u throw it to him he coming down with it over heads and all he a true number 1 Wr he reminds me of Santa homes but more athletic
Give the ball to Terry!!!!!!
DQ said Clelin is gonna be out this Monday so expect to see an awful lot of Jaymin out there.
Quinn & Whitt have to allow JAMIN DAVIS to play 50% of the snaps & when we beat Cincinnati that will prove ,Forbes& Daron Payne is the majority Problems
Trade Allen and Payne
Unk rico good video
Every thing I said last season is getting said this season💯 I been said trade Allen while we can💯I said trade Terry for the best of both sides💯 get Jayden the players that plays for his scheme fit💯 play Ben sinnot now💯 have ertz come in 3rd downs or some, trade for Greg newsome💯 draft Travis hunter with 1st pick we got, DE if we can get a 1st for Terry💯and the plus is Travis hunter can also help with defense if he gets some reps with defense‼️
We also don't have the best O line, I dont want to see Jayden get folded so I dont mind small ball for now
Is this why Allen and Pain started fighting each other the one year lol they both know they need to be better
😂😂
I mean 39 yards is crazy
Trade Jon Allen “Mr. All Bark No Bite” this week. He going to show up to the game with his do-rag on, mugging trying to hype up everyone before the game then go out there and get half a tackle. Bruh is not it. His salary last season was more than Aaron Donald who gets tripled teamed and produced more. Send him on his way.
Who feels his shoes? H9nest queation
@@jakegaming818 at this point with the lack of production, anyone can. Would be cheaper and allow the team to fill another need with the extra cash.
Y’all said the same thing about Sweat and chase the season they got traded. You can obviously see how much worse the pressure is.
@@thabruhfrom9444 ok… Chase did what in San Francisco and is doing what in New Orleans? Montez is another story. I never was one with trading him. Still what does that have to do with Allen’s production? He had one good season and a few “solid” ones to go along. He’s not on a trajectory to a “Gold Jacket”. Just keeping it real fam.
Lianidaus made the Alabama walllook better then it actually was
That was N. Brown not D. Brown
Trade Allen, before we lose anymore games.
I hope they trade John Allen honestly. Hes losing value big time and hes mostly all bark
I agree
the offensive line isn't that good yet would rather have jayden look like caleb williams or some of these second year quarterbacks that bare throwing interceptions because they are forcing it or holding it too long and getting sacked
How do you explain TM having such great success the last 4 years with just average QB, and having such a below average this season.
Kingsberry offense is not looking good so far, how do you not get your best WR involved more into your offense. The Giants and Eagles
both won their games (this is posted before the finale score of the Cowboys game). I was shocked to see the Giants Defeat the Browns.
If the Commanders lose against the Bengles, I really don't see them going very far this season. I hope at least the Cowboys lose later.
Jonathan Allen is like chase young. Overrated and underwhelming just talk no bark
Trade DARON PAYNE for MICAH PARSONS, Jerry jones love Daron Payne
Terry hasn't done anything. He never gets any separstion
We need Newton to step up
Trade Allen at deadline💯
Here we go smh..
Tried to tell you! Look at your other comment from previous videos. They are overrated!! Teams been running up the gut for years
I agree the DT are overrated
You know it’s the LBs responsible for the run defense and filling gaps. Having the worst LB corp for years was why the run defense was bad. Allen and Payne were doing their thing and eating up blocks.
I'm calling out the whole team. This upcoming game will determine our season. We lose to the Bengals, it's over.
U sound dumb slim u know damn well this is a rebuild yr wtf we been losing for 30 + n now u bitching after 2 games with new staff 🤣🤣
I say trade Allan before his production drops and he is not worth anything right now. I say we can get a player and a first round.
He's not worth anything right now, but yet you expect to get a 1st round pick AND a player? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Only the panthers would do something that dumb and even then I think Carolina is smarter than giving a first round pick for him. I was thinking 2 third round picks and a sack of potatoes is good enough for him to be gone
@@JG-vq6rd so it is that funny to you that you laugh at yourself haha he haha I’m glad I was employed to your embarrassment of a bday party. No wonder you laugh with pain. The dollar store did call they want the opinion you bought for half hooker price the generic version.
@@willbutler2639 what does the panthers have to do with that?
@@kennymeekselfuego 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ I shouldn’t even respond but I will explain to you. Only the dumb ašs panthers would be stupid enough to give up a first round pick for Allen. You know the worst team in the league with the worst GM and owner.. yea that team would be the only one who could make a brain dead move like that… and even then I think they have more competence then that
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