With cycling speed is relative. When I come off my road bike onto my mountain bike, it feels painfully slow for a few rides until I get used to it. I know if I rode a QV it would probably make my road bike feel like that, so I would never perceive the QV as slow unless I got some time in one of the faster models. Great review, if and when I can get a velomobile, it would be a QV for me at the moment based on this.
In my QV+, I have the cover inside the front, pushed against the roof, the edges on the wheel wells on the outside of the damper struts. The pointy ends just in front of the manhole, secured by velcro. Works perfect for me, I don't notice it. If it start raining, I just stop and put it on without having to climb out. 😊
The heavy metal soundtrack provides an interesting counterpoint; the ride looks like a lot of fun on open country roads. Where I live, in Jamaica, the taximen and bus drivers will eat this for breakfast and then ask for more dumplings.
Good review Saukki, actually I always carry the foam cover in the front as others have mentioned. I just added a couple of small bits of velcro ( to the inside of the hood) This allows the front straps to be kept out of the way from my feet when it's stowed there.
This kind of vehicle should have at rear a shlumpf drive and at front a HSD drive, also you can replace the 90 mm drum brakes by disc ones , then you can add an electric assist at the pedals , and perhaps a toggable generator that can regenerate the battery when in descents... Some pv panels can be added too !
I still think to manage something by myself around the Azub Tricon. Because I need to fold it to get into my car. I've already made a rear aerodynamic part with carbon fibre, it's a child's play...
Great video as aleays, Saukki. Could you do a dirty video on the seat only? How to adjust for proper riding position for different size riders, and and how to mount the neck pad from ventisit? Thank you.
How much slower it is than the Quest in practise e.g while commuting? I have understood u have something like 25km distance to your workplace so is it several minutes in that case ? Thanks for the great video again!!!
Hi Saukki , I notice that you have added Schlumpf Mountain Drive to the Quatrovelo , If you want you can switch to schlumpf speed drive which is case you don't have a lot of up hills can increase you speed significantly.
I highly doubt it will increase speed. Instead it’s more inefficient because I would mostly be using the more inefficient overdrive of the Speed Drive. With Mountain Drive I’m mostly using the more efficient direct drive gear and I use the inefficient low gear only on steepest hills (in winter almost any hill is steep enough to use MD).
I was very interested in the final review! It seems like the QV gives a very good first impression, but I have seen several users that were initially very positive on it move on to other vehicles. Rein228 sold his and is using a DFXL, and John from veloads seems to prefer the Alpha 7 or Milan, I have seen others as well. Do you feel like you will keep the QV even after your kid grows too big for the child seat, or will you switch?
If I remember John's comments, he had more fun with the faster/lighter machines, but liked the QV as a "Daily Driver," (my words, not his), and that he could take Theo with him. That was a while ago, so he may have changed his mind, though :-). I got mine for going to work in, in the winter, and in the rain. In the hot summer, I use an ICE Trike, and now a Cruzebike Q45. Horses for courses. Saves using the car!
@@coniow About the cruzbike q45. Is it difficult to maintain your balance? I bought a lowrider before, and hated it, because it was woobly and I had to constantly focus on not falling off it or crashing. Do you have to push off when you start from a stop?
@@100toeface Start by accepting that you will have to learn to ride all over again. Also expect to look like an idiot from time to time when you relax a bit too much. "An Outdoor Jim" posted his first 'lessons' based on the Cruzebike official advise. I found it really helpful in seeing what to expect. ua-cam.com/video/qEneY31UWpk/v-deo.html I now have about 500 miles on mine, including 21 seventeen mile rides to and from work. Each ride gets easier. You learn more about handling with practice, and building muscle memory. But you DO have to concentrate ALL the time, as when you get over confident, she WILL put you into a 'weave.' Starting off: Keep one foot firmly on the ground, push with the other, countering the 'pedal steer' with your shoulders. The first 50 times you will be all over the place. I can now take off in a straight line practically every time. Conclusions: I would not sell mine, unless getting another one. It is a full-body-workout every time. Exercise. And fun. But not 'relaxing.' Each ride DOES get easier. And the 'How to Ride Your Cruzebike' lesson plan on the web site IS really good advise. There are no short cuts. Perseverance is key. If you want a relaxing ride, with opportunity to look around and take in the scenery, I would advise a 'Bent Trike. Sit back, Put your feet up, Relax, then pedal as fast or as slow as you want. Horses for courses. I am lucky, I have room in the garage for both! Hope this helps, but watch the link above, "A picture paints a thousand words!"
@Wool & Canvas yeah but the problem with that is then you have to deal with the glare in your eyes. Ideally most of the body should be white, but what's in front of you should be darker.
What about the turning radius compared to other velomobiles? It is quite important in the city to be able to have some kind of turning radius. And how do you reverse? On my Alpha 7 I can put my hands on the outside and turn the wheels like on a wheelchair to reverse. On the rotovelo there are foot cutouts in the bottom for reverse. These things are critical for city driving. I love the full suspension and comfort of the QV (I tried one once), but 4 wheels is not going to fly, legally speaking, where I am, nor is the massive size of it (parking and manuvering between traffic, lane splitting). I wonder if anyone has ever made a velomobile specifically for city commuting? (not an e-velo like cab bike, etc). Does anyone know of one?
Thanks for this video, once again very interesting !! One question that you probably answered thousand of times ... sorry: who's the artist playing your background music ? I really like it !! Thanks in advance !
I don't think I'll carry a kid but can the back seat have enough space to carry a guitar? Compare to Quest this have larger luggage space, but is the Quest have enough for camping gear say for like a tent etc? How much cruising speed is expected of QV vs Quest in kmh?
I doubt it has enough room for a guitar. You might actually have better luck with a Quest. It’s little bit better with long-ish objects. Quest should have enough room for camping gear, including a small tent. On my commute I usually average around 33 km/h with the QV, while with Quest I could average around 35 to 36 km/h. So that’s the difference in speed.
@@TheVelomobileChannel thank you for your reply, the ability to carry a guitar is important to me, I can a bit flexible to adjust for camping gear. I'll look seriously into Quest if it can fit longer object.
I understand what you mean with the snow 🏔️☃️ Here where I live in South Sweden it usually doesn't get too cold during the winter. However this year the temperature dropped to -16 degrees Celsius. I can only imagine how cold it can be for you during your commute in the colder months 🥶
@@emildragon7589 I have been using a Strada all winter in Stockholm. It is doable, except right after a big snowpour, where there is too much soft snow. -16 or colder is not a problem, velomobiles are actually quite toasty inside.
@@LeesChannel Way more to running than that. I'd love to be able to jog again, but my left leg stops bouncing (rebounding) after a while-making that pretty much impossible. I can do repeated short sprints (soccer ⚽) or hike at fairly high speed across rough terrain, and cycling is no problem. Besides, he can't carry much cargo, or a kid that big, when jogging. Finally, I doubt you can keep up 25 km/h when running for 25 km.
i would realy like to try one for a week .....small electric cars cost about 6-7 ....how can any velobike be expensier? ....+ this is road car, i ride bike even offroad on few places on my way, even 50 m off railway stones (shortcut😅 and a good malberry trees grows there so i go that way everyday now), i dont know how this could pass there ....well if its not more then 25 kg i could caree it over ....how does it handle bumpy roads? you know speed is not everything ....great video .....tnxs
How can you rate against a trike? Four wheeler should be in another category of velos. You are giving up stability (when turning) and better road comfort while in a trike. Thumbs up.
Why do you not store the cover in the hood? Stick it in with both sides together into the cover and then open it when inside. It will fit perfectly out of the way
I'm worried about the hood not being fully sealed like other velos. what happens when you park it and it rains a lot? does the rain goes in the open sides of the hood?
It comes with extra piece of cover which you can use to close the head hole of the manhole cover. So yes, you can close it so that no raiwater gets inside.
I might have shown it in the unboxing video at the end of last year 🤔 I haven’t mentioned it since then, because I don’t use it. I don’t usually store the QV outside in the rain, so the manholecover + head-in hood is good enough for me.
www.velomobiel.nl/quattrovelo/quattroveloplus.php It states that it provides an additional 2,5 cm space for your knees. And 1,5 cm extra for your toes. And that it is suitable for riders having a length of 185 cm or above.
Jopas jotakin. En ole tämmöistä koskaan nähnyt tien päällä. Millä vedät tuon lukkoon kaupassa vai luotatko siihen, että on liian erikoinen värkki eikä lähde kenenkään matkaan?
@@TheVelomobileChannel ei hemmetti äijä on tehnyt videon melkein joka aiheesta joka tähän liittyy! Iso peukku tämmöisestä omistautuneisuudesta. Tässähän suorastaan innostuu näistä velomobiileista. Mäkiä on täällä etelässä vähän enemmän ja sähköavustus voisi olla ylämäissä poikaa. Kävisi varmaan monissa arki-ajoissa ja voisi peräti toisen auton unohtaa. Pohojanmaan tasamaalla pärjäilee näköjään kivasti ilman moottoriakin. Suurin ostohaluja rajoittava tekijä on tuo hinta Hei, yhdestä aiheesta et ole tehnyt ilmeisesti videota eli kohtaamisista tien päällä. Voin olla myös väärässä. Varmaan saa tarinaa iskeä kun onhan se niin huomiota herättävä värkki.
Funny how a far more practical velomobile scores lower than a almost impractical mIlan MK7. Kind of ridiculous, I guess it's because you can borrow the milan for free.
09:13 A child seat and a kid doing what..?! Thanks for another great video, my old Mango seems more archaic with every passing year.
Haha accents are a great thing hmm
This Review makes me want to buy a Quattrovelo. Thanks Saukki
With cycling speed is relative. When I come off my road bike onto my mountain bike, it feels painfully slow for a few rides until I get used to it. I know if I rode a QV it would probably make my road bike feel like that, so I would never perceive the QV as slow unless I got some time in one of the faster models. Great review, if and when I can get a velomobile, it would be a QV for me at the moment based on this.
it's relative. untill you take a look at travel times.
In my QV+, I have the cover inside the front, pushed against the roof, the edges on the wheel wells on the outside of the damper struts. The pointy ends just in front of the manhole, secured by velcro. Works perfect for me, I don't notice it. If it start raining, I just stop and put it on without having to climb out. 😊
There might be more room with QV+. The front part is higher 🤔
Not possible unless one has very small feets 🙂
@@AlveHenricson I have incredibly large feet. 🦶🦶😀
For me it worked also good. Same solution.
The heavy metal soundtrack provides an interesting counterpoint; the ride looks like a lot of fun on open country roads. Where I live, in Jamaica, the taximen and bus drivers will eat this for breakfast and then ask for more dumplings.
Good review Saukki, actually I always carry the foam cover in the front as others have mentioned. I just added a couple of small bits of
velcro ( to the inside of the hood) This allows the front straps to be kept out of the way from my feet when it's stowed there.
This kind of vehicle should have at rear a shlumpf drive and at front a HSD drive, also you can replace the 90 mm drum brakes by disc ones , then you can add an electric assist at the pedals , and perhaps a toggable generator that can regenerate the battery when in descents...
Some pv panels can be added too !
Its going to become very heavy like this
Hi Saukki, i usually put the cover inside the hood. It fits in well but of course i do not have a kid in the back seat.
Great tip. Thanks! Though it doesn’t fit with the child seat.
Great video Saluki, very informative mine is coming in 3 to 4 months time can’t wait.
Great Review Saukki!
I can’t wait for mine!
Thanks!
Cineastic video with a factchecked review :)
Really enjoing your content!
amazing!!! Great review Saukki.
I think stability on the road is more importent than speed. 4 wheels matter. Greate description!
In some day I will sell my apartment and order this one. Good review, Saukki, and music is also good.
Should use Fast Tyres like Pro Ones Tubeless or Schwalbe One with Latex then the speed will be faster then quest because you can go faster in corners.
I still think to manage something by myself around the Azub Tricon. Because I need to fold it to get into my car.
I've already made a rear aerodynamic part with carbon fibre, it's a child's play...
Great video as aleays, Saukki. Could you do a dirty video on the seat only? How to adjust for proper riding position for different size riders, and and how to mount the neck pad from ventisit? Thank you.
How to set the seating position: ua-cam.com/video/AA3Avd-OxcA/v-deo.html
Thanks for all your information 👍
You forgot price. I was quoted for a USA delivery 15k US$ but ‘nice things , cost nice money’.
Seems that shipping across the pond is quite expensive 😳
I presume that's the total, not just the shipping cost…?
Yeah, I know.
Excellent review - warts and all, but really well balanced.
How much slower it is than the Quest in practise e.g while commuting? I have understood u have something like 25km distance to your workplace so is it several minutes in that case ? Thanks for the great video again!!!
QV is few minutes slower on my commute. I don’t have many sharp turns on my commute, so the faster cornering speed of Quattrovelo doesn’t help.
Hi Saukki , I notice that you have added Schlumpf Mountain Drive to the Quatrovelo , If you want you can switch to schlumpf speed drive which is case you don't have a lot of up hills can increase you speed significantly.
I highly doubt it will increase speed. Instead it’s more inefficient because I would mostly be using the more inefficient overdrive of the Speed Drive. With Mountain Drive I’m mostly using the more efficient direct drive gear and I use the inefficient low gear only on steepest hills (in winter almost any hill is steep enough to use MD).
I was very interested in the final review! It seems like the QV gives a very good first impression, but I have seen several users that were initially very positive on it move on to other vehicles. Rein228 sold his and is using a DFXL, and John from veloads seems to prefer the Alpha 7 or Milan, I have seen others as well.
Do you feel like you will keep the QV even after your kid grows too big for the child seat, or will you switch?
So far QV seems to be the only velomobile which can handle the winter reasonably well, so I think I want to keep it.
If I remember John's comments, he had more fun with the faster/lighter machines, but liked the QV as a "Daily Driver," (my words, not his), and that he could take Theo with him. That was a while ago, so he may have changed his mind, though :-).
I got mine for going to work in, in the winter, and in the rain. In the hot summer, I use an ICE Trike, and now a Cruzebike Q45. Horses for courses.
Saves using the car!
@@coniow About the cruzbike q45. Is it difficult to maintain your balance? I bought a lowrider before, and hated it, because it was woobly and I had to constantly focus on not falling off it or crashing. Do you have to push off when you start from a stop?
@@100toeface Start by accepting that you will have to learn to ride all over again. Also expect to look like an idiot from time to time when you relax a bit too much. "An Outdoor Jim" posted his first 'lessons' based on the Cruzebike official advise. I found it really helpful in seeing what to expect.
ua-cam.com/video/qEneY31UWpk/v-deo.html
I now have about 500 miles on mine, including 21 seventeen mile rides to and from work. Each ride gets easier. You learn more about handling with practice, and building muscle memory. But you DO have to concentrate ALL the time, as when you get over confident, she WILL put you into a 'weave.'
Starting off: Keep one foot firmly on the ground, push with the other, countering the 'pedal steer' with your shoulders. The first 50 times you will be all over the place. I can now take off in a straight line practically every time.
Conclusions: I would not sell mine, unless getting another one. It is a full-body-workout every time. Exercise. And fun. But not 'relaxing.' Each ride DOES get easier. And the 'How to Ride Your Cruzebike' lesson plan on the web site IS really good advise. There are no short cuts. Perseverance is key. If you want a relaxing ride, with opportunity to look around and take in the scenery, I would advise a 'Bent Trike. Sit back, Put your feet up, Relax, then pedal as fast or as slow as you want. Horses for courses. I am lucky, I have room in the garage for both!
Hope this helps, but watch the link above, "A picture paints a thousand words!"
@Wool & Canvas yeah but the problem with that is then you have to deal with the glare in your eyes. Ideally most of the body should be white, but what's in front of you should be darker.
What about the turning radius compared to other velomobiles? It is quite important in the city to be able to have some kind of turning radius. And how do you reverse? On my Alpha 7 I can put my hands on the outside and turn the wheels like on a wheelchair to reverse. On the rotovelo there are foot cutouts in the bottom for reverse. These things are critical for city driving. I love the full suspension and comfort of the QV (I tried one once), but 4 wheels is not going to fly, legally speaking, where I am, nor is the massive size of it (parking and manuvering between traffic, lane splitting). I wonder if anyone has ever made a velomobile specifically for city commuting? (not an e-velo like cab bike, etc). Does anyone know of one?
I'm sold. It's a pedal driven road "touring kayak".
Thanks for this video, once again very interesting !!
One question that you probably answered thousand of times ... sorry: who's the artist playing your background music ? I really like it !!
Thanks in advance !
That’s me and my band. Check the info in the video description 😉
@@TheVelomobileChannel I never opened fully the video description ;-)
Respect !
I'm a fan of your band then !!!!!!
I prefer a sponge and don't drill a hole :-P
My QV has only the small hood(?), but I can store the cover in the bow of the hood.
Hi ! Thanks for your review. When you mean it's slow, what is the average speed you get?
On my 25 km commute, the average speed of Quattrovelo is usually something around 32-35 km/h but with a Quest it was something like 34-38 km/h.
When you lock it to something when you go into a shop?
How easy is it to see the road with the long hood compared to your quest.
I don't think I'll carry a kid but can the back seat have enough space to carry a guitar?
Compare to Quest this have larger luggage space, but is the Quest have enough for camping gear say for like a tent etc?
How much cruising speed is expected of QV vs Quest in kmh?
I doubt it has enough room for a guitar. You might actually have better luck with a Quest. It’s little bit better with long-ish objects. Quest should have enough room for camping gear, including a small tent. On my commute I usually average around 33 km/h with the QV, while with Quest I could average around 35 to 36 km/h. So that’s the difference in speed.
@@TheVelomobileChannel thank you for your reply, the ability to carry a guitar is important to me, I can a bit flexible to adjust for camping gear. I'll look seriously into Quest if it can fit longer object.
@@wckoek hey ho, did you find out more about fitting a guitar in one of these?
I am also very much interested in that perticular feature.
Would you recommend this as a substitute to a moped or car?
By the way what a great review 😉😀👍
Yes, in many cases it would be great substitute to a moped or a car.
But at which distance would a car or moped be the more sensible option?
I have 25 km commute, and I ride it mostly by velomobile. But in winter I mostly have to use car, because we usually have a lot of snow.
I understand what you mean with the snow 🏔️☃️
Here where I live in South Sweden it usually doesn't get too cold during the winter.
However this year the temperature dropped to -16 degrees Celsius.
I can only imagine how cold it can be for you during your commute in the colder months 🥶
@@emildragon7589 I have been using a Strada all winter in Stockholm. It is doable, except right after a big snowpour, where there is too much soft snow. -16 or colder is not a problem, velomobiles are actually quite toasty inside.
You have to upgrade stronger legs maybe? Then the speed is not issue anymore.
True 😂
epo can help a lot. and makes u fast like a motorbike.
@@TheVelomobileChannel your legs are the key to speed, but 4 wheels give a slight more resistance than a 3 wheel quest and is a little bit lighter
If your legs, lungs, and heart are all strong enough you don't even need a vehicle, just run everywhere.
@@LeesChannel Way more to running than that. I'd love to be able to jog again, but my left leg stops bouncing (rebounding) after a while-making that pretty much impossible. I can do repeated short sprints (soccer ⚽) or hike at fairly high speed across rough terrain, and cycling is no problem.
Besides, he can't carry much cargo, or a kid that big, when jogging.
Finally, I doubt you can keep up 25 km/h when running for 25 km.
What was the cost of this and the add ons? It looks like I would like everything but the child seat.
It was something like 11k€ + shipping back in 2020. I’m pretty sure prices have gone up since then.
i would realy like to try one for a week .....small electric cars cost about 6-7 ....how can any velobike be expensier? ....+ this is road car, i ride bike even offroad on few places on my way, even 50 m off railway stones (shortcut😅 and a good malberry trees grows there so i go that way everyday now), i dont know how this could pass there ....well if its not more then 25 kg i could caree it over ....how does it handle bumpy roads? you know speed is not everything ....great video .....tnxs
Quattrovelo can handle some off-roading: ua-cam.com/video/4luv3BJcphM/v-deo.html
Hi. what made you purchase the Quattrovelo over other velomobiles?
I wanted a velomobile which I can use around the year. And because it can have a child seat. So basically this is the velomobile I need.
How can you rate against a trike? Four wheeler should be in another category of velos. You are giving up stability (when turning) and better road comfort while in a trike. Thumbs up.
Why do you not store the cover in the hood? Stick it in with both sides together into the cover and then open it when inside. It will fit perfectly out of the way
It doesn’t fit when child seat is mounted to the highest position, like I have now.
@@TheVelomobileChannel
But in your video you mentioned that there is no place for the cover, but there is if you don't have child seat
Yes. I said there’s no place for it and after that I show multiple places wher it can be stored 🤔🤦♂️🤷♂️
I'm worried about the hood not being fully sealed like other velos. what happens when you park it and it rains a lot? does the rain goes in the open sides of the hood?
It comes with extra piece of cover which you can use to close the head hole of the manhole cover. So yes, you can close it so that no raiwater gets inside.
@@TheVelomobileChannel thanks I didn't know..nobody seems to ever mentioned this in various videos of the QV! thanks!
I might have shown it in the unboxing video at the end of last year 🤔
I haven’t mentioned it since then, because I don’t use it. I don’t usually store the QV outside in the rain, so the manholecover + head-in hood is good enough for me.
If it can cope with your winter it must be tough.
Hallo, welche reifen hast du drauf ?
With open sides is it warm enough in winter ?
With manhole cover yes it is. You just have to wear a scarf or something like that to protect your neck from the cold.
What is dimension difference between QV and QV+ ?
www.velomobiel.nl/quattrovelo/quattroveloplus.php
It states that it provides an additional 2,5 cm space for your knees. And 1,5 cm extra for your toes. And that it is suitable for riders having a length of 185 cm or above.
How slow compared to quest?
Jopas jotakin. En ole tämmöistä koskaan nähnyt tien päällä. Millä vedät tuon lukkoon kaupassa vai luotatko siihen, että on liian erikoinen värkki eikä lähde kenenkään matkaan?
Esimerkiksi näin: ua-cam.com/video/s3Fb5XmOvCc/v-deo.html
@@TheVelomobileChannel ei hemmetti äijä on tehnyt videon melkein joka aiheesta joka tähän liittyy! Iso peukku tämmöisestä omistautuneisuudesta. Tässähän suorastaan innostuu näistä velomobiileista. Mäkiä on täällä etelässä vähän enemmän ja sähköavustus voisi olla ylämäissä poikaa. Kävisi varmaan monissa arki-ajoissa ja voisi peräti toisen auton unohtaa. Pohojanmaan tasamaalla pärjäilee näköjään kivasti ilman moottoriakin. Suurin ostohaluja rajoittava tekijä on tuo hinta
Hei, yhdestä aiheesta et ole tehnyt ilmeisesti videota eli kohtaamisista tien päällä. Voin olla myös väärässä. Varmaan saa tarinaa iskeä kun onhan se niin huomiota herättävä värkki.
@@Eraseri no sitä aihetta on sivuttu aika monessakin videossa, tässä yksi esimerkki: ua-cam.com/video/N5yPfSajgfw/v-deo.html
perkele!! (that's the finns say, isn't it?)
"cat face", "owl face" :-D
...and the alien head cover! an artist could do the wackiest paint job on this thing lol
Fin sykkél
Add a Switch........thingy
Funny how a far more practical velomobile scores lower than a almost impractical mIlan MK7. Kind of ridiculous, I guess it's because you can borrow the milan for free.
Also I reviewed the QV as a practical velomobile and the Milan as a racing velomobile. So not really comparable score.
جي من عند محمد حمدي
I’m here cuz the goofy ahh videos
The background music is very annoying.