I have been saying it for years the Giants have changed multiple positions and nothing has changed but the one constant is him…but he should hire a football minded guy and Mara just needs to cut the checks and you are right NYG hates to change or fire anyone and thus the same results will come so 2025 will be nothing but the same
If Mara should step down, what should the Raiders owner Mark Davis do? Go to the Phantom Zone? 9 coaches since he’s taken over as owner. It’s not Mara’s fault people can’t do their job. First they said he needs to go outside the Giants history and hire someone not from the organization. He did, and it was a success. He told everybody after that first successful year, you can go from Bono to Bozo real quick. No one listened. He didn’t interfere with anything, he let Schoen make the decisions. He doesn’t need to step down, he just needs the right people in place.
I read the whole thing and you're point feeds into my point. Your very last sentence. Why did he stick with these guys? We need the right people in place and these guys gave you nothing for 2 seasons. And John is tired of the change, well you keep changing to you get it right. You can't look at this season and think that these are the guys to do it. Not one change except the strength and conditioning coach. If he doesn't have it in him to go through another regime change, step aside and let the younger guys in the bloodline do it.
@@BigDashKnowsHe stuck with them because the alternate was inevitably promoting Dennis Hickey to GM and hiring Ron Rivera as HC. No one even remotely good wants to go where people are hired and fired after 2-3 years. Fans wanted a rebuild and outside hire, and they got both. Rebuilds take longer than five minutes.
As long as fans keep patronizing the service the Giants is offering, they will not make any changes. Billionaires only understand the bottom line. Stop paying for the service and merch, they'll start making changes
Who would take a DC job with the Giants not knowing if this regime would be around. Who would uproot their family ..with such a huge unknown... would you???
He won two rings like his father, and he’s not evil like Dan Snyder or Donald Sterling. He ain’t goin’ anytime soon. Steve Tisch on the other hand is an apathetic absentee parent, HE can sell.
One fact here: Firing Tom Coughlin instead of Jerry Reese. That was John Mara's first official critical decision as owner, and it started the avalanche of horrible decisions to come. Coughlin was NOT the reason the team went 6-10 for the two straight years prior to his firing. It was Reese's horrible drafting in his last 3-4 years with the team. (Remember Eric Flowers & Eli Apple?). Yet, they fired the coach and not the GM. A 2-time SB winning HOF coach to boot. So tell me again why you cannot fire either the GM or HC because it has to be a "package deal"?? Mara already DID THAT!! This guy is a friggin ass clown. Worst owner in sports. Period.
Won two rings against the Patriots, but sure, “Worst Owner in Sports.” What do you call Jerry Jones, Shahid Khan, Mark Davis, David Tepper, Dean Spanos, Jimmy Haslam, Jim Irsay, Stephen Ross, the Wilf Brothers, and Woody Johnson then? He’s better than all of them.
@baxatakbaxatak2014 your delusional to think Mara has been great oh and those two sb wins are over ten years old. Stop living in the past. Do you purchase any merchandise or go to the games? Do you know how many people are working hard for their money and to invest in a product they want to love but the product is garbage for the last 10 plus years? To think that Mara is a good owner going through all this bs with the whole league looking at the giants organization like ass 🤡 . Is not only asinine thinking but it is insulting for Mara to think that the state of the giants is looking good into the future. But why would he care he doesn't have to worry about how he's going pay his electric bill or cover his medical insurance cost. Unlike the average Joe he can just sit back and make more money off of regular people that are struggling in today's economy.
Yet both of those people had decent careers after leaving the Giants. Flowers went to one pro bowl as a guard in Washington. The problem was Eli and that QB succession, or at least a problem. Particularly late Eli made Sam Darnold look like Michael Vick. It's just very unrealistic to expect to get past that just by drafting offensive line. More and more you need a scrambling QB to help out extending plays. So the actual problem is delusional management not evaluating properly. If you have a statue at QB, behave accordingly. There are ways to make even that work, but it is not denial and scapegoating offensive linemen.
@ Flowers never made a Pro Bowl, that’s incorrect. He was an average guard at best, and kept getting passed around like a pancake. Stole a good chunk of change from Miami as well.
I say they focus more on the trenches on both sides of the ball of course draft a quarterback maybe get a quarterback in free agency get a corner and really get back to their identity which is defense
I agree with you, he should step down because he doesn't have the drive anymore but I don't think time would be any better, heck he might make too many changes to create no progress
Mara’s got to be the reason this team goes years and years being unwatchable He seems to have 0 idea what the hell he’s doing Wish he’d sell but that wont happen We are stuck forever with a losing team i guess
All I got to say is if you fire HC and GM. Who replaces them. No one wants to come here. Something has to change though. Maybe some new players come and change the vibe. As a fan I just want to be happy after a game. Sorry for this rant, but this is my only outlet.
@@BigDashKnowsAll you’ll get are washed retreads. Nobody’s clamoring for Vance Joseph, Frank Reich, Ron Rivera, Anthony Lynn, or Brandon Staley, but those are the only people who will take one last shot. People who failed on the job or had a clear ceiling.
I’m very very close of leaving this team as a fan cause I can’t take this nomo and everything you said dash was💯. Mara is soft and acts like a female that’s why he moves the he does and scared of change🤦🏾♂️ that’s why our team is trash and will forever be trash until he’s gone. Next year is finna be another bad season then when everyone is fired the New people are gonna come in with a 2nd year QB that they ain’t pick, a pissed off Malik Nabers, and no cap space
And yet that “woman” matched his father’s two rings with two of his own. Against BRADY AND BELICHICK. But okay. Remind me how many rings the other non-Steinbrenner NY owners have won again? Oh, right. One. For the WNBA team.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 If you’re going to quote me aleast do it right I said Female* not “woman” and second who cares about some shit that happened over a decade ago💀 What has he won since then? Absolute Nothing and I don’t care about New York teams I’m from California the Bay Area I’m only a Giants fan because I grew up being one since I was 7 but I’m 25 now and they ain’t won shit my whole adult years. Matter fact my whole adult years as a Giants fan I had to spend it so far watching Daniel Jones🤦🏾♂️ So you honestly should be just as fed up as me instead of trying to take up for that clown Mara
Parcels won 3 games his 1st season then went to the playoffs his 2nd and 3rd year. People used the Phil Simms example last year for Jones talking about how long it took for him too. We can't keep hoping these guys repeat history.
John Mara will never sell his shares because it's his family's business, and the Mara's view the Giants as their personal item. To them it's like a family heirloom, so the Mara family will continue forever. What needs to happen is Steve Tisch, the man who was allowed to buy into the organisation during the Wellington Mara era because the Mara family was tremendously bad with finances. Wellington Mara had a good football mind, and he was very good with his assessments of football players and the needs of his team, unfortunately he never passed his knowledge on to his song John. John Mara dearly loves his team/organisation. To him it's a family possession, however he has entrusted the management of his organisation into the hands of people who should not be trusted at all. Joe Schoen sees the Giants as his own personal petri dish in which he is experimenting with regarding the on field personnel, and Schoen trusts his Buffalo Bills friend Brian Daboll to control the locker room end of the franchise. The end result over three disastrous seasons has been a complete failure. John Mara on the other side is afraid of exposing his organisation to be clueless and rudderless if he dumps his current GM/HC, so rather than becoming lambasted for becoming a revolving door franchise he is doubling down on the people he hired three seasons ago. That decision of staying put with his GM/HC will make him look even more clueless and rudderless when his team will be a last place team again in the 2025 season and he'll have to fire the people he has been trusting for the past 4 years. The team needs to open the door for more co-owners to dilute the voice of John Mara. I would love to see Eli Manning become a top share holder of the New York Giants, but I would also welcome the possibility of a celebrity share holder like Snoop Dogg to buy into this organisation. Just think about that idea before telling me that I'm out of my mind, as many other Giants fans have said. Snoop would love to put his stamp on a team, and why not one of the oldest teams in the history of the NFL?
@@BigDashKnows I sent a personal note to Snoop Dogg. He's been wanting to become a shareholder/owner of NFL team for a long time. Now's the time for our team to welcome a new voice, and Snoop would be prefect, he's my all time favourite HipHop artist of all time.
DASH you said it Mara is getting paid. As long as those seats are filled or not and paid for, we are doomed. Fans are losing whatever patience they still have but when game time rolls around, there we will be. Looking forward to the draft and free agency. Nothing more we can do but hope and wait for some positive change.
John Mara is a loser. He doesn't have what it takes to be involved in the day-to-day football business activities. Just because he hangs around the football field and the organization's offices doesn't mean he know wtf he's doing. The same goes for Tim McDonnell. Let's take you reading this, let's say you hang around a garage, you see cars getting fixed, parts ordered, diagnosed issues, but you don't work on them. You could do it for 20 years, but would you be considered a mechanic? I think not. The Giants need proven football people (preferably, who have played the game) to run the football operations...period.
That's not an excuse. Everybody doesn't get to start at the same place and despite that we needed to show any kind of improvement. I'm not asking for 13 wins but we better be scoring more than 10 pts a game. How about we look competitive or like we belong in the NFL.
@ We get Sanders or ward, and this will be a fun team to watch. Sprinkle in some vet leaders and its decent team that can can be competitive. We fell off a cliff after cutting DJ, and werent going anywhere with him. Only way to go is up from here. Mean reversion SZN BBY 2025
I used to go to Fairfield to watch the Giants practice. I was a little girl then. Wellington Mara was. there actually talking to the fans. It was like a family back then.
I'm with you Dash. I didn't want Schoen or Daboll to come back and I would love Mara to sell the team
You are not wrong bro.
I have been saying it for years the Giants have changed multiple positions and nothing has changed but the one constant is him…but he should hire a football minded guy and Mara just needs to cut the checks and you are right NYG hates to change or fire anyone and thus the same results will come so 2025 will be nothing but the same
Tell the truth Big Dash and shame the "Mara"!
I'm not trying to shame him I'm just tired of the bs losing. Get the right guys in here and keep trying until you do.
@BigDashKnows I know what you meant, I was just rephrasing an old cliche! You're good!
If Mara should step down, what should the Raiders owner Mark Davis do? Go to the Phantom Zone? 9 coaches since he’s taken over as owner. It’s not Mara’s fault people can’t do their job. First they said he needs to go outside the Giants history and hire someone not from the organization. He did, and it was a success. He told everybody after that first successful year, you can go from Bono to Bozo real quick. No one listened. He didn’t interfere with anything, he let Schoen make the decisions. He doesn’t need to step down, he just needs the right people in place.
I read the whole thing and you're point feeds into my point. Your very last sentence. Why did he stick with these guys? We need the right people in place and these guys gave you nothing for 2 seasons. And John is tired of the change, well you keep changing to you get it right. You can't look at this season and think that these are the guys to do it. Not one change except the strength and conditioning coach. If he doesn't have it in him to go through another regime change, step aside and let the younger guys in the bloodline do it.
@@BigDashKnowsHe stuck with them because the alternate was inevitably promoting Dennis Hickey to GM and hiring Ron Rivera as HC. No one even remotely good wants to go where people are hired and fired after 2-3 years. Fans wanted a rebuild and outside hire, and they got both. Rebuilds take longer than five minutes.
John Mara is all about loyalty than winning and that's one of reasons why we have been having a majority of losing seasons including bad decisions
Been saying this for years. MARA IS THE ONLY consistent part of the losing for OVER A DECADE.
As long as fans keep patronizing the service the Giants is offering, they will not make any changes. Billionaires only understand the bottom line. Stop paying for the service and merch, they'll start making changes
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Who would take a DC job with the Giants not knowing if this regime would be around. Who would uproot their family ..with such a huge unknown... would you???
Exactly why I wanted the whole regime gone. We might be in this same spot next year
@@BigDashKnows agreed
DASH laying down facts!
Mara should hire a president of football operations!!!
I’d have no issue with that, but don’t think for a second he will ever sell the team. Man matched his father’s two rings with two of his own.
@@JeckMedina-u3c What be should do: Exclude himself from making any football related decisions.
@Frank08046 I concur with that 💯 %!!!!
I been screaming that for a long time Mara needs to go
He won two rings like his father, and he’s not evil like Dan Snyder or Donald Sterling. He ain’t goin’ anytime soon. Steve Tisch on the other hand is an apathetic absentee parent, HE can sell.
Mara owns the team he’s not going anywhere. This ownership group has delivered four Super Bowl titles I’m fine with the Giants ownership!
One fact here: Firing Tom Coughlin instead of Jerry Reese.
That was John Mara's first official critical decision as owner, and it started the avalanche of horrible decisions to come.
Coughlin was NOT the reason the team went 6-10 for the two straight years prior to his firing. It was Reese's horrible drafting in his last 3-4 years with the team.
(Remember Eric Flowers & Eli Apple?).
Yet, they fired the coach and not the GM. A 2-time SB winning HOF coach to boot.
So tell me again why you cannot fire either the GM or HC because it has to be a "package deal"?? Mara already DID THAT!!
This guy is a friggin ass clown. Worst owner in sports. Period.
Won two rings against the Patriots, but sure, “Worst Owner in Sports.” What do you call Jerry Jones, Shahid Khan, Mark Davis, David Tepper, Dean Spanos, Jimmy Haslam, Jim Irsay, Stephen Ross, the Wilf Brothers, and Woody Johnson then? He’s better than all of them.
@baxatakbaxatak2014 your delusional to think Mara has been great oh and those two sb wins are over ten years old. Stop living in the past. Do you purchase any merchandise or go to the games? Do you know how many people are working hard for their money and to invest in a product they want to love but the product is garbage for the last 10 plus years? To think that Mara is a good owner going through all this bs with the whole league looking at the giants organization like ass 🤡 . Is not only asinine thinking but it is insulting for Mara to think that the state of the giants is looking good into the future. But why would he care he doesn't have to worry about how he's going pay his electric bill or cover his medical insurance cost. Unlike the average Joe he can just sit back and make more money off of regular people that are struggling in today's economy.
Yet both of those people had decent careers after leaving the Giants. Flowers went to one pro bowl as a guard in Washington. The problem was Eli and that QB succession, or at least a problem. Particularly late Eli made Sam Darnold look like Michael Vick. It's just very unrealistic to expect to get past that just by drafting offensive line. More and more you need a scrambling QB to help out extending plays. So the actual problem is delusional management not evaluating properly. If you have a statue at QB, behave accordingly. There are ways to make even that work, but it is not denial and scapegoating offensive linemen.
@ Flowers never made a Pro Bowl, that’s incorrect. He was an average guard at best, and kept getting passed around like a pancake. Stole a good chunk of change from Miami as well.
Take Travis Hunter first and Jaxson dart sec. Jaxson dart would have no choice but to be good with all that talent
John Mara needs the Quija board so he can get advice from his daddy.
Sheesh lol
Didn’t need much advice when his teams kicked Brady’s ass twice.
Nah Dash keep doing what you do let people say what they want…you are far from a bad negative fan you just keep ish 💯💯💯
Yep. Finally a Gmen fan who keeps it 💯. Only thing imma say is Tim did vouch for Saqoun
I say they focus more on the trenches on both sides of the ball of course draft a quarterback maybe get a quarterback in free agency get a corner and really get back to their identity which is defense
I agree with you, he should step down because he doesn't have the drive anymore but I don't think time would be any better, heck he might make too many changes to create no progress
Mara’s got to be the reason this team goes years and years being unwatchable
He seems to have 0 idea what the hell he’s doing
Wish he’d sell but that wont happen
We are stuck forever with a losing team i guess
My hope is that the young Maras know more ball.
HOLLA BACK BIG DASH 8:37
Preach Dash !!!
All I got to say is if you fire HC and GM. Who replaces them. No one wants to come here. Something has to change though. Maybe some new players come and change the vibe. As a fan I just want to be happy after a game. Sorry for this rant, but this is my only outlet.
It's an NFL job. There will never be a shortage of applicants.
@@BigDashKnowsAll you’ll get are washed retreads. Nobody’s clamoring for Vance Joseph, Frank Reich, Ron Rivera, Anthony Lynn, or Brandon Staley, but those are the only people who will take one last shot. People who failed on the job or had a clear ceiling.
I’m very very close of leaving this team as a fan cause I can’t take this nomo and everything you said dash was💯. Mara is soft and acts like a female that’s why he moves the he does and scared of change🤦🏾♂️ that’s why our team is trash and will forever be trash until he’s gone. Next year is finna be another bad season then when everyone is fired the New people are gonna come in with a 2nd year QB that they ain’t pick, a pissed off Malik Nabers, and no cap space
It's crazy right.
And yet that “woman” matched his father’s two rings with two of his own. Against BRADY AND BELICHICK. But okay. Remind me how many rings the other non-Steinbrenner NY owners have won again? Oh, right. One. For the WNBA team.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 If you’re going to quote me aleast do it right I said Female* not “woman” and second who cares about some shit that happened over a decade ago💀 What has he won since then? Absolute Nothing and I don’t care about New York teams I’m from California the Bay Area I’m only a Giants fan because I grew up being one since I was 7 but I’m 25 now and they ain’t won shit my whole adult years. Matter fact my whole adult years as a Giants fan I had to spend it so far watching Daniel Jones🤦🏾♂️ So you honestly should be just as fed up as me instead of trying to take up for that clown Mara
Dash woke up and chose war lmao I get it... one more year to see what happens till full rebuild.
Full rebuild? Lol. This is 100% Schoens team. It IS his rebuild!!
@@billm7035 my bad full re- rebuild lol
@@billm7035It’s the rebuild all the fans just HAD to have in 2021. Congratulations, now we get to live with it.
@ congratulations, your point is ridiculous and inapplicable
@@billm7035 Says the dope who wants to trade our All Pro LT. Thank God you’re not in charge.
This is why there's no problem drafting a running back if he's a top running back in the first round if you got a plan
Do we have a plan though?
if mot like buy the team then you run it way you like
Dash we need continuity. Mara did right to keep the crew. If we fired Parcels after his first 3 seasons would we have gotten our first 2 SuperBowls?
Parcels won 3 games his 1st season then went to the playoffs his 2nd and 3rd year. People used the Phil Simms example last year for Jones talking about how long it took for him too. We can't keep hoping these guys repeat history.
Terrible take.
@BigDashKnows Thank you. I am so tired of this continuity, bs when it is apparent a mistake was made.
And see comments like this I just can’t wrap my head around you clearly don’t see how bad this franchise is do to John Mara decisions.
Continuity, if you want to be continually bad than go with this joke of an organization.
LETS TALK ABOUT IT BIG DASH
We all want Mara to step down
sure they would
maybe you should buy it
Buy what?
John Mara will never sell his shares because it's his family's business, and the Mara's view the Giants as their personal item. To them it's like a family heirloom, so the Mara family will continue forever.
What needs to happen is Steve Tisch, the man who was allowed to buy into the organisation during the Wellington Mara era because the Mara family was tremendously bad with finances. Wellington Mara had a good football mind, and he was very good with his assessments of football players and the needs of his team, unfortunately he never passed his knowledge on to his song John. John Mara dearly loves his team/organisation. To him it's a family possession, however he has entrusted the management of his organisation into the hands of people who should not be trusted at all. Joe Schoen sees the Giants as his own personal petri dish in which he is experimenting with regarding the on field personnel, and Schoen trusts his Buffalo Bills friend Brian Daboll to control the locker room end of the franchise. The end result over three disastrous seasons has been a complete failure.
John Mara on the other side is afraid of exposing his organisation to be clueless and rudderless if he dumps his current GM/HC, so rather than becoming lambasted for becoming a revolving door franchise he is doubling down on the people he hired three seasons ago.
That decision of staying put with his GM/HC will make him look even more clueless and rudderless when his team will be a last place team again in the 2025 season and he'll have to fire the people he has been trusting for the past 4 years.
The team needs to open the door for more co-owners to dilute the voice of John Mara. I would love to see Eli Manning become a top share holder of the New York Giants, but I would also welcome the possibility of a celebrity share holder like Snoop Dogg to buy into this organisation.
Just think about that idea before telling me that I'm out of my mind, as many other Giants fans have said. Snoop would love to put his stamp on a team, and why not one of the oldest teams in the history of the NFL?
I had to look up what lambasted means lol. I don't think the sell off minority shares. We are stuck with these guys. Just hope the heir is better.
@@BigDashKnows I sent a personal note to Snoop Dogg. He's been wanting to become a shareholder/owner of NFL team for a long time. Now's the time for our team to welcome a new voice, and Snoop would be prefect, he's my all time favourite HipHop artist of all time.
Snoop Dogg? THAT ass clown? Put down the hash.
@@AlterMann57He probably rolled it up and smoked it. Go to rehab.
No Snoop please!
I'm tier of seing my team geting Stomp this is ridiculous man is frustrating 😡
DASH you said it Mara is getting paid. As long as those seats are filled or not and paid for, we are doomed. Fans are losing whatever patience they still have but when game time rolls around, there we will be. Looking forward to the draft and free agency. Nothing more we can do but hope and wait for some positive change.
Wasn't really feeling the outro music
Testing it out
John Mara is a loser. He doesn't have what it takes to be involved in the day-to-day football business activities. Just because he hangs around the football field and the organization's offices doesn't mean he know wtf he's doing. The same goes for Tim McDonnell. Let's take you reading this, let's say you hang around a garage, you see cars getting fixed, parts ordered, diagnosed issues, but you don't work on them. You could do it for 20 years, but would you be considered a mechanic? I think not.
The Giants need proven football people (preferably, who have played the game) to run the football operations...period.
Agreed totally!
The owner is not going to fire himself or his family. If you don’t like John Mara, just pick another team to follow.
Easy for you, nothing vested.
You can't compare Viking to us our team was more fk up
That's not an excuse. Everybody doesn't get to start at the same place and despite that we needed to show any kind of improvement. I'm not asking for 13 wins but we better be scoring more than 10 pts a game. How about we look competitive or like we belong in the NFL.
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buy the team
I wish. Even if I had the money,they wouldn't sell to me.
Sure, if you never want to win another ring.
yes he needs to step down
Mara acts/looks like an old man and I'm older.
Waiting for a nepotist billionaire to do the right thing, episode 2491.
🙄😳 sheesh Dash, this is bleak fr…. If we’re being honest this whole negative stuff could also be the definition of insanity 🤷♂️
its the definition of reality, unfortunately 😞
Show me something to give me hope.
@ We get Sanders or ward, and this will be a fun team to watch. Sprinkle in some vet leaders and its decent team that can can be competitive. We fell off a cliff after cutting DJ, and werent going anywhere with him. Only way to go is up from here. Mean reversion SZN BBY 2025
Facts don't care about your feelings
Lol can't be done without a qb
John Mara, the Joe Biden of the NFL
Wellington could relate to the players. While John could only relate to Eli. Look at his choices for GM. Petty tyrants Gettlemann and Schoen both.
I used to go to Fairfield to watch the Giants practice. I was a little girl then. Wellington Mara was. there actually talking to the fans. It was like a family back then.
Everyone wanted an outside hire at GM. Congratulations on getting what you asked for?