NeXT NeXTstation Turbo Color Computer from 1992 running NEXTSTEP 3.3
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2016
- In this video we will take a look at my NeXTstation Turbo Color from 1992. We'll take a look at the hardware both inside and out and then fire it up to take a look at the NEXTSTEP operating system, look at the first ever website using the first ever web browser and then look at some striking similarities between NEXTSTEP and Mac OS X.
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The slot you said you "don't know what it's for" is the DSP RAM slot. It's very rarely, if ever, used. It was impossible to find even when NeXT were being sold. Full disclosure: I am the GNUstep maintainer and a former developer on NeXT machines as well as a current Cocoa/Mac/iOS Developer.
I’ve been looking for a stick to install in A NeXtStation Turbo Color that I resurrected in the late 90s. They were pretty cheap back then as several institutional customers seemed to be liquidating them en masse and all at once.
Dood... DOPE!
It's kinda cool how this looks alot newer than it really is
Absolutely mind blowing to see that Next was so similar to apple's earlier powerpc computers, especially crazy to see that OSX is basically NEXT and classic Mac OS made a shiny baby.
Ah, the time where you could sip your tea between every click, waiting for a window to pop up.
Booting Windows make a whole pot of coffee :)
Thank you for this. I've always found those old NeXT systems fascinating.
Oh my goodness, I yearned for one of these when I read about them being released in PC World years ago. I am so envious you have one now!
I absolutely love videos about old hardware.
patriotbarrow is
same this guy is lucky to own all this
if you love that. check out RetroMachines on facebook. Its ran by Victor Bart (aka RetroMachines on UA-cam)
Really appreciate that you made this video, I always wanted to know about these things in detail
Miller columns, a navigation concept found in both NeXTSTEP and macOS, is one thing I really like as a standard way of browsing directories and files; it even found its way to the iPods, navigating music libraries, albums and songs in columns from left to right.
I’d really like to have a good implementation of Miller columns on Linux, but I don’t want to be that guy who develops yet another obscure file manager. :-)
Thank you for this great blast from the past, Cameron!
Thanks for the video, always been curious about Nextstep.
Thanks, Cameron, for a video which I found fascinating, as well as bell-like in its clarity. Lang may yer lum reek!
Excellent. I so lusted after one of those machines in the day. Thanks.
subbed. if you're going to review old tech this is the level of thoroughness you want to see.
I still have a complete NeXT Station sitting in storage somewhere, maybe I should get it back up and running...
Peter Jakobs Pass it along if not?.. Haha
I've been thinking about it, but seeing their recent price development :o
Peter Jakobs Totally understand my friend.
Dude that things worth money to collectors, especially if you have the original box, cords and manuals.
I remember seeing (and playing with) a NeXT cube for the first time at my university in '94 or '95. Even then - with Windows 95 just around the corner - I was convinced I was dealing with something from the future. When Jobs returned at Apple a few years later, I tried to convince my dad to invest a few thousand (we weren't particularly rich) in Apple stock. He thought I was crazy (but he did get me a decent Mac). We all know who turned out right after the fact (and we're still not particularly rich).
Later people started doubting Steve Jobs' vision and everything - with the iPod being a relatively silly device. I'm convinced most of those pundits had never seen let alone used a NeXT machine in the nineties.
your story is very very similar. except for having used a NeXT. I wanted my parents to do that too.....They didn't as "you could when you get older" lmao.
NextStep blew everyone's minds when it came in the early '90s.
It greatly influenced both MS Windows, IBM's OS/2 and AmigaOS at the time: you could see the influences both in how the graphical looks changed and if you peeked under the hood.
Lassi Kinnunen It took them about 5-6 years, but I won't delve into that much further. Let's just say I respectfully disagree with several of your assertions.
As for taking the risk to buy Apple stock - any stock for that matter: you shouldn't use any money you couldn't otherwise burn when you invest in stock, options, that kind of stuff. My father was willing to invest some of his money and my nose told me Apple would rise from their ashes. I could've been wrong, but I turned out to be right. As for his actual investments. I must regretfully say he didn't fare too well. Gained some, lost some. Nothing spectacular.
Meh. The stock didn’t do crap in the early 2000s anyways. It would of been more of a looser. Thankfully I got extremely lucky though and both myself and my father invested in 2004 and again in 2008. If we’d bought in when he first came home with an iMac and the public beta, I doubt we would of made much of anything. Between that and WebObjects providing an income for me (and still does) I owe a lot to Jobs even if he wasn’t the nicest person in the world, he could see the future much better then his contemporaries.
You might be interested to know the DSP is the same chip used in the Atari Falcon from the same Era. The DSP in the falcon was used heavily for sound and graphics processing, for instance it could decode MP3 in real time which PCs could not do back then. Search for some Atari Falcon demos to see the power of the DSP in action.
The Atari Falcon could. I know because I own one.
Pentium 60 was released in 1993 and can decode MP3 in real time.
awesome man! thanks for making the video
Great documentary video. Thanks.
That was great. Thanks for the upload.
For information regarding the DSP and its external port, look up information about the Atari Falcon030. They use the same DSP, except for the Falcon having a higher clock rate.
That alphalock command+shift combo to toggle capslock makes so much more sense than wasting a nicely-positioned key on it! I almost never use my caps lock key, except when defining constants in source code, so I probably use it more often by accidentally hitting it and having to do it again. If anything, it's more useful as an indicator to see if my laptop has frozen while waking up from sleep...
wow i cant believe those stickers were still in there that is so awesome!
I am IN LOVE with the design of the NeXTstation. I'm looking at a bundle with a NeXTstation, keyboard and mouse, then I'm looking at a NeXTstation Turbo Color, and leave the original for a sleeper project.
I had a Next Color Turbo for several years..I bought most of the parts from a guy in Colorado, loved it..
Do you have any plans to digitize and upload the manuals? What about images of the bootfloppies and CDs?
you can get all the floppies from apple's website :D
you used to be able to back in 2013 when I was restoring a cube
all the links still work for downloads today but you can no longer browse the server, anyways here you go:
web.archive.org/web/20020612203016/download.info.apple.com:80/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/MultiCountry/Enterprise/
CD image is also all over the internet
@@elektrokinesis4150 What architecture are those floppies for? I looked in the drivers section, that's clearly PC hardware (SoundBlaster 16...?). Confused.
Wow, what a great look back to the past.
Great video mate
On Mac OS X before Mojave, the Screenshot application still used the NeXTSTEP icon in its window.
Excellent video!
Awesome pre OSX system you are a very lucky man! It's really too bad NeXT wasn't developed even more and had survived. All of there hardware and software were ahead of its time.. thanks
s ga ahead of its time , but also costing $5000 to $50000 per system, that's why they died. Ferraris are nice, but people have to use Fords
I wouldn't say it died. It was converted to what we now know as MacOS and it's derivatives such as iOS, iPadOS, watchOS. A lot of NEXTSTEP still lives on to this day. Probably much more than if NEXT hadn't been sold.
VERY interesting video
I loved it
thanks for your explanations aswell :)
Nice video! Greetings from Mexico!
Wow! They really are similar, and the icons on NeXTSTEP are very high-res, more so than most mid-2000s Windows icons.
+Cameron Gray
Don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere in the comments[TL;DR], but the slot at time index 14:24 is for level 2 cache. It was available in 256KB, 512KB and 1MB capacities. Even the 256KB module improved system performance to serious degree. Bootups took A LOT less time. It was an amazing difference.
No, it’s the RAM expansion for the DSP chip
That big white connector in the middle there. i'm 90% sure thats a L2 or L3 cache chip expansion i had a lot of 486's with that same connector that used a long/short cache ram card / stick ... that and it's sitting right next to the system onboard cache . this was a common practices back then during the memory crunch.
great video, thank you for sharing
Awesome vid, subbed!!!
That was very informative.
Highly enjoyable! You need to get yourself on BBC 4!
This is so cool!!
you are a genius love your videos
nice video. It seems those silver monitors are popular around the RetroPC enthusiasts. I have the 19" monitor version and works great. I have the VGA connected to a KVM USB Switch to a P4 HT 2.4Ghz and a Xeon Quad 2.4Ghz LGA775. The monitor also has DVI, which I use to test laptops with. I have an old 5:4 Dell LCD monitor (w/ speakers) connected via PS/2 KVM switch for a K6-2 333Mhz and a P3 700Mhz.
Hey Cameron, any reason you don't piggyback on the 5V provided by the monitor on the VGA cable?
monitor standby ?
Wow! Just found you're channel by searching for old sun workstation clips. Great Videos!! keep up the good work, Cameron! Maybe .. if you have a DEC Alpha Server (before HP bought them out) sitting around .. I would like to see a video of one of those taken apart. =)
Thanks! I have tonnes of other machines (including several Suns) to make videos on. I don't currently have any DEC hardware but I'd definitely get one if I can find anything going for a reasonable price.
+Sary Mao
“your”
;o)
Can you not read the clock via the inp(portaddress) outp(portaddress,data), do you not have a IDE that would allow you to create an applet that access the clock through the clock hardware ports.
Hi!
I see you put the schematic for the 1881, but i have tried that and it doesn't seem to work.
Can you share the full schematic? Thanks!
Just goes to show you how far ahead of its time nextstep was. Jobs originally left apple because this object based GUI was deemed too expensive and too much of a liability (don't quote me on that, I just remember hearing that from somewhere). Nearly 30 years later and it's still in use and in a form not that different from the original. I call that a very good investment indeed.
Not sure if anyone mentioned about the DSP but basically it's input from sensors of various sorts that send data via electrical signals instead of serial
For £200, that was a superb deal!
Excellent video. If I have a PC monitor that works with Silicon Graphics machines (they need SoG), then the chance is that it would work with a NeXT box, right?
It more than likely would work. When looking to build my sync separator, most of the resources I was using was for people trying to hook up SGI machines to modern monitors.
Im interested to know, were any games released for Next or was it just mainly for bussines use?
Not really, it was mainly for business or academic use. There were some games which would have been common in those settings (Nethack along with many homebrew type games) but nothing major was really released. Interestingly, Doom was actually developed on NeXT machines and they can run it although the official releases of the game never really targeted the platform.
A lot of that application builder stuff and the www had it's roots in hyper card.
I used to support NeXT systems, from the software and administration point of view, as part of a university agreement. I attended training at NeXT HQ which was a fun experience. If you already had some UNIX skills then it was pretty easy to get into although faculty, particularly in the humanities which was an area specifically targeted by NeXT, avoided the Interface builder apps preferring for someone else to develop apps for them. This wasn't the fault of NeXT as the same faculty didn't want to program something as simple as HyperCard on the Mac. We put together prototypical and full functioning apps and they really liked using them. We even offered training on how to do these things but, again, it never really caught on because they always wanted someone to do it for them seeing little value in development even if it could help transform their classroom. We had a lab of NeXTs and wanted to integrate them into courses.
Math/CS, Physics, and Chem used these systems but rarely to their full potential. They treated it like a server by running apps that could have been run on a standard UNIX machine of the time (e.g. Sun) though they still needed help setting things up from a UNIX point of view, managing users, installing apps, doing back ups, etc. they didn't log into the system and if they did it was just to "poke around". However, the students (both undergrad and grad) really liked using the NeXT and a few did research projects on them and took advantage of the full range of apps even writing DSP code in support of their thesis. The Pizza Boxes were much better from a hardware point of view as the "floptical" in the Cubes never really performed well.
I think one of the more depressing things I saw was that one of the departments to which we loaned a Cube (free of charge) never really used it and it literally wound up being a doorstop for their computer lab. Oddly, this was at the same time that said department complained about not having a good software development environment for their students. They didn't understand what it could do so ignored it in favor of their more familiar DOS-based computers.
Cool workstation!
I'm guessing the DSP port is for an image digitizer?
Looks a lot like the LC series of 68k Macs on the inside. It could very well be that the white simm slot is a video ram expansion slot like it is on the LC III for example. Very similar designs.
No, it’s the RAM expansion for the DSP chip
I used to come across these in studios, for some mad reason
I loved using Afterstep for Linux and all the widgets people wrote for the side bar.
I know this is a few years old but the empty slot next to the ramdac would most likely be a video ram upgrade slot. looks like some video ram for some of my old macs from 98 or so.
I think it's funny that next.com *still* redirects to apple.com to this day.
hehe
Omg lol
Good find.
Is the NeXt keyboard have any springs or is it just mechanical?
It's mechanical using ALPS Black switches
Thanks, very interesting.
I still want one of these
It's pretty weird for an Apple spinoff company, (especially in one Steve Jobs was involved) that they released their operating system on other platforms. Imagine Tim Cook now saying "We have released the new version of OS X, and the cool new feature is, you can install it on any PC you like!".
kemi242 I'd pay a reasonable amount to run Mac OS X on my PC laptop, without all the Hackintosh effort.
Flash Frozen Linux or Free BSD
Flash Frozen Hackintosh is so easy to do now if you really want to do it you can. It may take a little effort but really not much. Besides you should be easily able to find someone locally willing to do it for you for cheap. As long as it’s an intel chipset, it’s basically fully compatible and will more or less work (only WiFi can cause issues, but still not any worse then Linux). Nothing like 10 years ago when it was crazy hard. While I haven’t used any of the loaders for a while now (I’m more hardcore and modify the uefi to natively start the OS X bootloader directly with fake keys built in) Clover has gotten so user friendly and easy it’s ridiculous. Compared to the slog of checking chipsets, manually editing kexts, etc, it’s basically now as easy as installing Linux. It’s amazing what the community has managed to accomplish with it.
Next really only started doing so when the companies hardware business really started tanking and they were hurting for money. It was as much of a move of desperation as the clone years at Apple. The only positive for NeXT was that since it was such a well designed, object based system that it had decent enough demand, web objects was massively successful (relatively speaking) and it worked enough to get them purchased by Apple (that along with the head of Be asking for way too much). It really wasn’t so much a visionary or even radical move so much as the only option for the company to remain viable since there was a strong market for “workstation” OS’ at the time. I actually still develop WebObjects software today. The team that designed the software systems (I can guarantee Jobs had little to do with it since he was too focused on the hardware to see that the software was the important part, not the stupidly expensive magnesium case) did incredible work that still stands today.
looked awesome! i want one!
seems like it's a pain in the ass to setup tho'
Needs more views!
very cool!
What is de underlying os? Unix like?
NeXTSTEP is based on 4.3BSD with its own "Mach" kernel
This is one of the only systems I never got a chance to use, although I came close trying to install it on Sun hardware once.
One thing I wanted to try was the NeXT equivalent of X11 remote display, which I think was set up similarly to X11 by specifying a -NXHOST parameter. Of course that would require two NeXT systems... 😁
Very good !
That 'all-in-one' video cable is a strange setup. Neat to note the similarities to Mac OS X.
which apple kept the idea of for a long time, before finally switching to DVI on power macs. the "studio display" used this single cable for power and video, so getting replacement graphics cards was either a pain or meant getting a vga or dvi adapter, which necessitated a power brick unless it had a way of accessing your system's PSU like the default video output did >.>
Kit Vitae Sounds like a bad thing. Though thinking about it Apple may have been ahead of it's time as now HDMI does a samilair thing.(putting verrius servises over a single cable)
a lot of knowledge :)
You should take a look at all the date codes on the mainboard components. In the video I can distinguish some DIL packages with a 9246 date code. Given those components were only manufactured in 46th week of '92, it's possible this NeXTstation was manufactured early '93, or certainly no earlier than Dec '92. It would be interesting to see if any original components have a date code later than 9246, to help identify the most likely manufacture month.
Can you make some VirtualBox images of the OS and upload them?
You should run doom on it. It was developed on nextstep
I call bullshit on that. Doom's breakthrough was working on Mode 13, which I've coded in and is absolutely terrible, but still managing to make a playable game in it.
Coding on any other machine would be relatively trivial.
The PC architecture was absolute crap, it was the worst. Every other machine was better than it was back in 1990. X86 was horrific to code on, the video interface was terrible, the sound card... there were like 50 of them, were all awful. Mode 13 required that you spread bits over several pixels, and if I recall, it wasn't just straight left to right top to bottom, in the 3rd quadrant, you had several sub quadrants.
Shit, I'm remembering how horrible it was.
How did such a horrific design become the predominate one?
Eventually all the bugs were worked out, by stealing the ideas and concepts from other superior computer designs, but what a nightmare x86 was. The PC was crap, and it still is. ARM will be taking it out over time.
+COOLPORN469 *"ARM? hahaha"*
Why are you laughing?
As a reduced instruction set with conditional execution built into it, it needs less pipeliness for the same efficiency as x86, which is a terrible architecture. X86 itself is just a SIMULATED x86 running on top of a RISC architecture using microcode to do the translations into the ancient old 8086 instructions, when needed.
It's a mess of a design.
It's clear ARM will replace it. Nobody needs more processing power, they need data throughput. The ARM processor in my phone is more powerful than the Alpha quadcore system running VMS/VAX was in college, 20 years ago - and that handled the work of 30,000 students. I carry around that kind of power, in my pocket.
Processing power isn't the problem, consumption of energy is. This is especially a large problem in large data warehouses, where small changes in energy consumption can lead to changes of millions of dollars of operations cost. Linux is already the predominate operating system in these areas, I can guarantee that google and youtube are entirely build upon this system. Linux is entirely architecture independent, and it just boils down to cost - not of even the chip, cost of operation.
Why x86 BS, intel ofc!
Intel bribe their way!
Arm on linux. It'll take about 5 to 10 years for ARM to get properly sorted out on the software side I think for this to really happen. It's only been the last couple of years that ARM developers are becoming mature enough to work well together. The eco system on linux for arm (according to Linus) looks like it's getting much better. I'm no arm guru and only use them for my phone. Things like drivers and the various code clean ups happening in linux can only lead to a much improved experience for any one wanting to use it for Linux.
RISC. Storing instructions in pure RISC is a bad idea for a number of reasons. You should well know the reason why the compromise of the modern X86 architecture happened as you sound like you are old enough to have lived through it. :). For the people who don't know the fairly quick explanation is to do with a few factors.
Historically ram costs lots of money. Having less bytes to load into your system ram and cpu cache ram is a good thing for many reasons. Cost and speed.
It turns out that fetching instructons from ram that isn't your CPU cache (any of the levels) is really costly. If you can store the same 4 or 10 instructions compressed into a single opcode you can save the time and space required to fetch the same instructions.
Starvation of pipelines. Again fetching instructions quick enough from ram that's not the cpu ram is slow. If you can minimize that and instead fetch a single opcode that represents 4 to 10 then you can keep the pipes busy for a while longer while you fetch more code.
These are only a few reasons why X86 is still around. Cost and time. With the introduction of more cores in a cpu that need to be kept busy, it becomes more important to have the data for them available quickly and efficiently. So having the non risc opcodes available means that some time can be used to decode the opcodes (minimal) and various optimization things happen and the risc that's generated gets executed in a rather efficient mannor. This all happens quicker than if the cache gets exhausted and a fetch to system ram or disk happens.
It turns out that the benifit of multi core can be rather detrimental to a systems performance if it's not implemented well. Also I don't see many arm systems with more than 2 or 4gb ram but like I said I don't use arm day to day.
The other reason is bandwidth. Until you can get mainstream arm machines that work well with a decient gfx card you'll find x86 will remain one of the main systems for home use.
mode 13h was a flat byte per pixel bitmap which fitted into a 64k memory window , 320x200x1 byte per pixel=64000 bytes.. it made 3d graphics easier. I think you might be remembering to the hacks that enabled resolutions like 320x240 and above ("mode x" i think they got called) which did indeed require interleaving pixels into the 64k window the CPU had
It's cool to see how many design elements Jobs brought back to Apple with him.
Next merged with apple at some point in the mid 90s
Wow!!! How SLOW This Door Stop is compared to an Amiga with a 68040 and no Y2K Problems with Amiga as well! So glad I never got sucked into the crApple rabbit hole! Great Video though!
That mystery slot would either be CPU cache (which I don't think it would be, given how far away it is from the '040), OR, for adding VRAM. A lot of older Macs of the day also came with very similar looking slots. But wow, it's crazy to see just how far ahead NeXT OS was compared to Mac OS in the early 90s. It's essentially a Mac Quadra on steroids it seems, if Apple had a similar system in the day, geewhiz. But I guess the marriage was eventual :)
The extra RAM-looking slot could be for Cache?
That's my thought as well. I know that early Power Macs had a separate slot for the processor cache.
Graham McMaster or video ram. Some of the graphics cards of that era had similar. 4MB +2 onboard
That was my expectation as well. For CPUs in the PC world that shipped with little L1 cache and no L2 cache, it was referred to as COAST (Cache On A STick).
It's quite likely for video RAM. I've had an 8600-series server that had that slot. I couldn't be arsed to find VRAM sticks for it though.
According to www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/NeXTProducts/NeXTHardware/NeXTStnColor/files/page620_2.pdf it was possible to upgrade the 56001 DSP cache to 96k. As the DSP was used both for video and audio processing, I'd hope it was a cache upgrade.
I just found out if you try to go to their website at next.com it redirects to apple.com
33 MILLION calculations per SECOND! Amazing. The future is here. I couldn't see why anyone would need to do anything faster then that. I would only need a few thousand of that million for just watching TV on my computer. Steve jobs was thinking ahead and I would bet money that people who bought that still haven't needed to upgrade.
33 million CYCLES per second, not calculations.
Nice Video. For a 68040 it seems a little slow though. Would be nice to see what it runs like with a CF hdd.
cool video..
Very interesting
is it possible to replace Next hard drives with newer quiet ones
I can't see why not as it just uses a standard SCSI hard drive. You could even swap it out for an SCSI2SD adapter and run it off of an SD card. Not something I'm interested in doing myself though, part of what I like about these machines is keeping them as original as possible including the noises and drive performance. Swapping the drive out for a faster/more modern alternative would feel like I'm removing some of its character. It's not as though I regularly have this machine powered on where the noise could become annoying.
@@camerongray1515 i see. i did work on one in the 90s and that noise is burnt into my heard . shortly after steve jobs had given me a call in 99 and i had ignored him assembling a new windows computer see domain dispute
any chance of doing a video about the sync on green seperator?
Probably not particularly soon but definitely interested in doing a video on it down the line. Was thinking about making another one on a PCB to play about with PCB design and manufacture.
If it helps, this this is what it looks like inside - photos.app.goo.gl/yrJfocXMVGmQEeTP2 - Not particularly neat! All the chip needs is a pair of capacitors and a resistor (detailed in the datasheet) so I soldered these components directly to the chip. I then soldered wires for all the video and ground signals between the two HD-15 connectors. I then added in the chip by connecting a wire from the green video signal on one connector then connected the two sync pins on the chip to the H and V sync pins on the other HD-15 connector. I then just soldered the positive and negative wires from the USB cable directly to the chip.
Thanks for the quick reply, the picture + schematic helps a lot. It looks pretty simple so i've ordered the parts and i'll try by myself. Hope you'll make the video one day anyway, it seems pretty usefull convertor.
Sorry for the newbie question, How do you connect the green video signal on the other side? Do you take it from the 7 pin on the lm1181n?
Drool!! Thanks for sharing. I would buy such a system if only to try out the NeXT version of Adobe Illustrator. And of course to experience the system that was the precursor to OS X and the platform that WWW was developed on :D
And … Doom, also. John Carmack purportedly walked in the snow to the post office to pickup his NeXT system (because the post office couldn’t deliver it in the inclement weather) while the Id Software gang was living in an apartment in Wisconsin.
The Next OS was based on the MachOS from Carnegie Mellon University if my memory serves me. It was one of the first, or the first, OS written in an object oriented language.
Framemaker was an awesome package. I used it on Sun for years. Puts MS Word to shame. So flexible and powerful. Never did anything unexpected which Microsoft Word does ALL THE TIME...
I think you mean the Mach kernel, which is a microkernel for BSD Unix. It is not an OS. One of its developers, Avie Tevanian, would later work at both NeXT and Apple.
I miss those sounds from old computer start up
You should change the battery before it leaks
To think I found some NeXTstations at Goodwill a while back... kinda regret not getting them, they even had the monitors but I think they were of the monochrome variety.
Get your hands on the limited-print Inside NeXT book by Luciano Dadda. It's an amazing reference to everything NeXT.
I think there are a few modern macOS apps that can be backported to Openstep. TextEdit and Chess are the two main suspects as Apple open sourced those as Xcode sample code. Maybe you can even get a copy of modern LLVM compiler on here giving you access to a reduced form of ARC.
I would want to patch the browser to send the VirtualHost directive.
Around 1990 I was working on Macs as the computer tech at the college newspaper.
They had a sophisticated graphic arts department.
This is what the Mac should have been then.
What the hell? I recognised the "NEXT" logo immediately at boot, the gui was even more familiar and i don`t know why. I`ve been in somesort of contact with these machines back in the day, maybe even tried to use one.... Got me thinking and i`ll come to shout here if/when i remember why i remember. :D
And subbed + liked. :D
Gotta get my laundry hanging and next i`ll have to watch all the sun-system videos, they are more familiar and i get an warm fuzzy feeling just thinking about em`.
that is a radical system
It looks like the y2k patch is available on next computers.org I found it by searching for nextstep y2k patch.
Can you please install NeXT on your IBM 755C laptop.....
Nice way to get your flat screen monitor working, impressive- looks a thousand times better than the CRT....
ADB keyboard and mouse is the one to get. They can be converted easily to USB to use on modern computers. Good luck trying to convert the proprietary earlier keyboard and mouse.