I have to agree with Sally on the ergonomics. I shot with Nikon for 26 years and started using their digital cameras in 2006, and the Sony ergonomics are far better for me. I love the sensible locations of the buttons, I always hated how Nikon just had like 6 buttons all in a straight line on the back of the camera, I always had to look at what button I was pushing, with Sony the buttons are spaced in a way that you always know what button you’re hitting, you never have to look. BUT the buttons on the older bodies (A9, A7RIII, A7III) are kind of flat and don’t have the best response, however the new buttons (A7RIV, A9II) are exponentially improved (particularly that joystick). This is a great upgrade (even with the same sensor) and well worth the price. Still the highest resolution professional sports camera available, and the addition of the new mechanical shutter is a very big deal, that really brings the A9 series into other areas that it was limited in before.
Hey then I love you video in thank you so much for sharing all, do you think they will release a new A7iv? Another thing is your beauty looks a little over saturator, or just maybe so contrasti. Just let you know.
This is the first video I've seen on the a9II. Thanks! But man, I think Sony is jumping the shark. Is it because Kaz Hirai left (serving as CEO from 2012 to 2018), and Ken'ichiro Yoshida replaced him? Kaz Hirai seemed to want to push boundaries. I've heard nothing from Ken'ichiro Yoshida, though.
Rationalific I’ve said the same thing. The last guy was a known hobbyist and loved pushing the envelope. This new guy just seems to slowly evolve the bodies and make the shareholders happy
The question is how long you can develop cameras at this pace so that it makes sense financially? Especially that they are still innovativing faster than Canon and Nikon. I remember Nikon releasing DSLRs in the past and the only upgrade was adding a wifi and changing a grip a bit. I think at first they kept releasing cameras and kept upgrading so fast that some people were frustrated. People were buying a6300 and then a few months later you had a6500. Sony slowed that which for me makes sense financially, but still they are innovating faster than Canon and Nikon.
I have the A9 and bought the A9II for my main camera due to ergonomics and mechanical shutter difference. A9 is now my back up and second camera for weddings.
Not a downside necessarily but not the fastest around. Just depends on how important speed is. To me, it's not but to others that split second can be a big difference
@@learningcameras it has a 20 fps electronic .... lol. 10 fps mechanical is enough when your camera can do 20 fps electronics. Not even one review said anything about uncompresed raw... can they do it 20fps or still 12? They did everything I don't like about my a9 :) when you film on the level you need 4k 60fps it's better to buy another body along so you can put on camera all the things you need for filming. I love a9ii.
I do not understand this whining about camera menu - a complex camera will have a complex menu with more settings. Ergonomics in this context is about being able to customize. And the custom buttons - placement has improved with every model. I like small light bodies & I have small hands so those who complain please be awarethat there are different hand sizes & grips. Sensor stabilization in larger sensors is based more on stabilizing hand movements & in the context of stills slow shutter speeds. Is this different in the panasonic or nikon I do not know. I did tryout the panasonic SH1& it is significantly heavier & not a camera that would fit in the lightweight ergonomic category so not very conducive to subtle flexible handheld work that one requires in precision sports like Table tennis. ( I used to play professionaly many decades ago & one needs very subtle last minute movements for handheld. The tracking that they havedeveloped is phenomenal. The DSLr bodies are simply clunky. Sony's policy has been to bring about paradigm shifts in sensors & then upgrade them. The R2 brought in a BSI 42mp sensor - R3 was incremental - R4 is again a paradigm shift. The same with a9 - it brought in the stacked sensor so to expect in 2 years another sensor is not very realistic. They have designed it keeping the olympics in mind. To be able to relay and transfer images fast etc. Basically theyhave different bodies & lens systems for different needs
Does anyone know the maximum write to speed for the A9II to UHS-II SD V90 cards? I am trying to choose between ProGrade 256GB V90 and the Sony 128GB SF-G V90 Tough Series cards, Does anyone use the ProGrade cards?
I did a speed test with the A7III using both UHS-I and UHS II cards so you should be able to get some value from that. The only difference is that the A9II has dual UHS II cards so it can process dual raw at the same speed as single raw vs the A7III that slows down when shooting dual raw since the 2nd card slot is slower ua-cam.com/video/XILlOTqMT3g/v-deo.html
@@learningcameras I was able to find out the maximum write to card speed for the A7RIV is 200MB/S. So anything faster then that would be overkill? I like the Sony SF-G V90 cards that write @ 299MB/S but wanted a 256GB size but the biggest they make is 128GB.
@@attilahardy3448 I highly recommend these cards: amzn.to/2TILGj0 super rugged and very close to max write speeds as well as being UHS-II for a fraction of the cost of those SF-G cards
It feels like this camera upgrade really wasn’t needed. It’s nice, but a A7siii is much more needed. Btw I love the frank convo between you two. My favorite camera couple
Yeah, it's weird they ok to upgrade this with the same sensor and specs just for a new body and a few AF increases but in 2 generations they didn't do even a functional body upgrade to the SII. Thank you so much too! Means a lot
Sadly, I think this means that they simply can't do 4K 60 in these bodies, and they know that they will be roasted if an a7sIII comes out without it...so they simply don't release one. The Sony magic is starting to fade, and reality is setting in.
any pointers as to why the A9II EVF would show so many artifacts ( purple blue moire ) and has so little resolution especially while half pressing the shutter ?
Yes, when you half press the shutter the EVF quality goes down. I can't remember where it is but I believe there is a setting for EVF or viewfinder frame rate. If this is turned on high, the quality will be sacrificed in order to maintain the better refresh rate. Turn this to standard viewfinder frame rate and the quality should improve. When this camera came out, getting a viewfinder with that resolution at a frame rate high enough for 30fps was unheard of but the camera couldn't do both at the same time. Most phone screens work like this as well where if you turn up the refresh rate of the display, the phone screen can't work at the max resolution
Thanks for the honest and frank convo I appreciate that. I was a little disappointed with no sensor upgrade and slog 2 just my 2 cents but I know others will love this camera. Can I whisper that they’re sounding a lot like Canon. Has Sony stopped listening?
Should have had a A99 body with built-in battery grip, 6mil EVF, 3.5" HD OLED fully-functioning touchscreen, Dual XQD cards, 30fps, 36MP & 4K60. That would be called big improvement.
1Dxii had 4k60 with full AF from 2016 and it's been used by lots of videographers despite its weight and size. Sony has no idea what a big market they missed out on.
Yes!! Please give us a bigger LCD screen with a better touch interface. Also, I have large hands and I would greatly appreciate a fuller body. I know that Sony has filled out their lens lineup but I am in need of more affordable long glass at 2.8. The 400 2.8 is amazing but too pricey. Please Sony, come out with a 300 2.8 G, a 300 4.0 G, and a 400 4.0 G. These lenses would greatly complement the A9II. Hey while I am asking cellular connectivity would be amazing. Of all the camera manufactures, Sony can do this. Sony needs something that can compete with the cell phone market.
Hi Dan, I think that you and Sally make a great couple and I enjoy watching your videos. I have a request for a video, however, I want to tell you a little bit about my Photography. In 2013, I started shooting on a Nikon D600, (their "Entry Level" full frame camera). About 2 years ago, I sold all my Nikon gear, and switched to the Sony a7III. (Their "Basic" Full Frame camera). I had heard what Sony was doing and I wanted to be a part of it. When I shot Nikon I had a version of the Holy Trinity, but what I found out was that I didn't like it. I have decided for my photography I want to shoot with all Prime Lenses. I have the Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 OSS Lens, and I am going to buy the Sigma 35mm f/1.2 DG DN Art for FE. What I can't seem to decide is what camera I want as my primary camera for the next few years. (I will make the Sony a7III my second camera.) I have to decide between the Sony a7RIV and the Sony a9 II. This is not an easy decision! The 61MP Sensor on the a7RIV is amazing. I would love to have all that resolution, so I could shoot wide and crop my photos in post. Also, having a 26MP APS-C mode would be like having a second focal length lens on my camera. I like the a9 II too. I love the electronic shutter that let's you shoot silently, and up to 1/32,000 of a second. This would be awesome when paired with the Sigma 35mm f/1.2 DG DN Art FE, because I could shoot with an aperture of f/1.2 at High Noon and blow out the background without over exposing the image. Another thing, I have heard that the a9 II has the better focus system and is much better at driving the big glass like the: 600mm f/4 GM. Can you make a video comparing the a9 II to the a7RIV? I think this is a common problem when upgrading from the a7III. Do we go with the electronic shutter or with a super high MP camera? (I can only afford to buy one!)
@@learningcameras fair enough - the title of your video and the way you had the two cameras in front of you, the bts footage made it seem like you've already played with it. A bit deceiving. All that aside, thorough review on paper.
It seems the only reason people are excited about this camera is the fact that it will push down the price of other cameras. With this new offering it makes more sense to just get the original A9.
now I know why there was no press event for this camera, nothing really to get excited about, everyone already new when the A7r lV came out that the A9ll would have the same ergonomics and sd card slots. so there are almost no surprises with the A9ll, the original A9 had the best focusing system on the planet, and the A9ll is the same. and same sensor. I think only a small percentage of A9 owners will upgrade to this new camera, just like a small percent of A7r lll users will upgrade to the A7r 1V, but for people who don't already own an A9, the A9 ll is a great camera. the ergonomics i know some people will like more, extra weather sealing is always a good thing, the two fast card slots, and the connectivity, 10fps mechanical shutter, but for me personally, I was hoping for a slight raise in MP, and even though the focusing is already amazing, I was hoping to hear that Sony even made it better, and I have been wanting a fully functional tough screen for ages now, I really don't get why it isn't easy for Sony to give it to us. so for now I will be sticking with my A7r lll until the A7r 5 or A9lll comes out, but I will also be curious about the A7s lll, hopefully it has allot more wow factor.
I agree. I have the A9 with all the new firmware updates. I will not be buying the A9II because I am not a sports photographer but a wildlife one. I will be waiting for a MP boost in the next upgrade and then purchase. I also have the A7RIII and did not upgrade to the IV but may in late 2020. I am sure there will be firmware updates for both cameras so that may change my purchase plans.
Yeah well... I thought A7RIV would be a waste and I wasn't going to upgrade. I got one in my hands at a Hunts photo and after using for say 20 mins I knew my R3 was getting replaced. I shoot outdoor nature, wildlife and the MUCH faster auto focus, crop mode, improved ergonomics (deeper grip, improved buttons) and awesome 5.76m EVF are absolutely worth the upgrade! * My R3 has been sold!
She said " Massive improvement " and yet as the video goes on it's obvious upgrade is minimal. Basically the new thing on A9II is the processor and yet it didn't solve the A9 problem just added " new feature" like "voice memo" which is important to sports photographers and present in Nikon D5 since 2015. ..:) can't wait for Angry Photographer respond. He will roast Sony bigtime. It will be Epic.
@@sosomelodies659 so whats the point of A9II upping the mechanical shutter from 5 to 10 if Sports Photographers prefer silent electronic shutter? What is the point of 20 fps when it is lagging in viewfinder? ..:)
@@crismeman3386 electronic shutter is not fool proof with certain artificial lighting. That's where high frame rate mechanical shutter is necessary. 5 fps mechanical shutter in original A9 made it too dependant on electronic shutter. With 10 fps mechanical shutter the camera becomes more versatile.
@@crismeman3386 Cuz you can shoot outdoor sports and wildlife like nobody's business. Silent shooting during press conferences and intimate moments is also an advantage.
No fully articulating screen and behind the time touchscreen technology. Same sensor as the A9 with some added new features equal no upgrade necessary to current A9 owners.
I really appreciate a 'critical' review of this new offering from Sony. I know we both LOVE Sony, but we have to be honest that they're lagging in some ways.
Sony introduced the A7iii as the "base model," setting the minimum standard for what a modern full frame mirrorless camera should offer. Yet here, in their new flagship model, they didn't give it picture profiles? This camera fails to meet the minimum standard Sony set for itself.
The buffer-clearing issue remains because they insist on using an SD-II card instead of what they should use.....a CFExpress. In addition to the same resolution (24MP) and same EVF, this is a very disappointing update.
For me a disappointing update of the Sony A9. No need to change, the Sony A9 can do 95% of what the Sony A9 II can do - with exception of the Network upgrades which I personally don't need. A better backup camera is the Sony A7RIV.
This is a big reason for sales going way down and only pros and monied people have the cash to spend....For the vast majority of the working class the expense is extreme.On the other hand a amature photographer is forced to actually learn lighting,aperture, iso, as well as capturing subjects that carry emotion ,wonder and curiosity. Dslr's are becoming to expensive and too cover the market of regular people ( many are just as good or better than the so called pro's and experts).
A9II costs as much as original A9 at launch. Now we're getting bigger grip, better buttons, improved battery life, better weather sealing, 10 fps mechanical shutter, 5 ghz wireless, continuous file transfers even with camera powered down, improved AF over last firmware update, newest Bionz processor. This processor alone is ready for future updates that can improve performance and features as Sony sees fit.
Sony seems to think the sweet spot is 24mp. While 24mp certainly is enough. Especially if you’re only printing up to 16x24. But If you’re printing larger it would be nicer to have more resolution. I think they should bump their cameras up to 40 or 50. “I mean all of them not just the a7r series cameras”
as a bird photographer , a7riv or a7riii are slow, a6600 are noisy and less detailed .. 36 mp was the expectation .. anyways Sony needs to do design thinking seriously for the user .. currently they are just in money minting marketing
Dipesh Mehrotra yeah they definitely do need to start being more innovative again. For the past 2 years it’s been recycled cameras. Except for the Sony a7iii. Which in my opinion is still amazing for the price. I personally don’t think it’s slow. But then again I shoot weddings and not birds.
Can I be happy and disappointed, happy that my current A9 is still great. Disappointed missing a few things , why not upgrade the EVF to match A7r4, why not improve the res of the back screen, why not improve the touch screen capability, yes it’s a faster processor pushing the old 24mp sensor, surprised of no new sensor change, no video improvements. Makes the A7r4 look a lot better thought out upgrade. Over all disappointed.
I have to agree with Sally on the ergonomics. I shot with Nikon for 26 years and started using their digital cameras in 2006, and the Sony ergonomics are far better for me. I love the sensible locations of the buttons, I always hated how Nikon just had like 6 buttons all in a straight line on the back of the camera, I always had to look at what button I was pushing, with Sony the buttons are spaced in a way that you always know what button you’re hitting, you never have to look. BUT the buttons on the older bodies (A9, A7RIII, A7III) are kind of flat and don’t have the best response, however the new buttons (A7RIV, A9II) are exponentially improved (particularly that joystick). This is a great upgrade (even with the same sensor) and well worth the price. Still the highest resolution professional sports camera available, and the addition of the new mechanical shutter is a very big deal, that really brings the A9 series into other areas that it was limited in before.
Errm, how do you want to see better IBIS if there is no space for the sensor to move? For that they need a new mount I think.
Hey then I love you video in thank you so much for sharing all, do you think they will release a new A7iv? Another thing is your beauty looks a little over saturator, or just maybe so contrasti. Just let you know.
With the Sony a9ii do you have to wait for the buffer to clear? I know that the Sony a7r4 you have to wait.
sorry just finished watching your video and you answered my question about the buffer clearing. Cheers mal
This is the first video I've seen on the a9II. Thanks! But man, I think Sony is jumping the shark. Is it because Kaz Hirai left (serving as CEO from 2012 to 2018), and Ken'ichiro Yoshida replaced him? Kaz Hirai seemed to want to push boundaries. I've heard nothing from Ken'ichiro Yoshida, though.
Rationalific I’ve said the same thing. The last guy was a known hobbyist and loved pushing the envelope. This new guy just seems to slowly evolve the bodies and make the shareholders happy
The question is how long you can develop cameras at this pace so that it makes sense financially? Especially that they are still innovativing faster than Canon and Nikon. I remember Nikon releasing DSLRs in the past and the only upgrade was adding a wifi and changing a grip a bit. I think at first they kept releasing cameras and kept upgrading so fast that some people were frustrated. People were buying a6300 and then a few months later you had a6500. Sony slowed that which for me makes sense financially, but still they are innovating faster than Canon and Nikon.
This couple is the best! when you guys in Miami, let me know!
Alexandre Focante you are so kind! 😭
3:34 - There is a physical moving part, the IBIS. If they had an A9 with no IBIS then that would be ideal.
I'm so excited with this, so I can buy A7R III with more discount and lower price.. #eh
old used a9 popping up already for weeks, prob get one of these.
LOL that's just what I did. These new Sony offering are a bit underwhelming. Great news is you can get a A7RIII or a A9I at a great price!
I'm really excited about this camera because it might mean a further discount on the A9 ;)
They will manufacture only one A9ii because this was designed to sell more A9's :))))
It's entertaining to watch both presenters try not to say things the other will disagree with.
As a wildlife photographer I’m gonna get into the a9ii 😍📷👌
michael p to upgrade from my beloved a7iii that gonna become my second camera 😉
Why not a9 and save 1500 dollar .. do u really need voice memo fast wireless transfer heavy body ? I am getting a9 soon
as a wildlife photographer too, I will not. The update concern at 99% sports journalists. wish you good shoots, enjoy
I have the A9 and bought the A9II for my main camera due to ergonomics and mechanical shutter difference. A9 is now my back up and second camera for weddings.
The Sony A9 1.5 6.0 is working perfectly
When did shooting 10 fps become a downside? I got the A9 for wildlife so banding is not a problem with my photography.
Not a downside necessarily but not the fastest around. Just depends on how important speed is. To me, it's not but to others that split second can be a big difference
@@learningcameras it has a 20 fps electronic .... lol. 10 fps mechanical is enough when your camera can do 20 fps electronics. Not even one review said anything about uncompresed raw... can they do it 20fps or still 12? They did everything I don't like about my a9 :) when you film on the level you need 4k 60fps it's better to buy another body along so you can put on camera all the things you need for filming. I love a9ii.
So does that mean we think the A7IV update will only be ergonomics or maybe that and higher MP? Wish that was just around the corner.
Higher mp.. really sony will still sell 24 mp as a sweet spot for next 10 years .. a7rv vi vii viii etc will only get mp bump
I do not understand this whining about camera menu - a complex camera will have a complex menu with more settings. Ergonomics in this context is about being able to customize. And the custom buttons - placement has improved with every model. I like small light bodies & I have small hands so those who complain please be awarethat there are different hand sizes & grips. Sensor stabilization in larger sensors is based more on stabilizing hand movements & in the context of stills slow shutter speeds. Is this different in the panasonic or nikon I do not know. I did tryout the panasonic SH1& it is significantly heavier & not a camera that would fit in the lightweight ergonomic category so not very conducive to subtle flexible handheld work that one requires in precision sports like Table tennis. ( I used to play professionaly many decades ago & one needs very subtle last minute movements for handheld. The tracking that they havedeveloped is phenomenal. The DSLr bodies are simply clunky. Sony's policy has been to bring about paradigm shifts in sensors & then upgrade them. The R2 brought in a BSI 42mp sensor - R3 was incremental - R4 is again a paradigm shift. The same with a9 - it brought in the stacked sensor so to expect in 2 years another sensor is not very realistic. They have designed it keeping the olympics in mind. To be able to relay and transfer images fast etc. Basically theyhave different bodies & lens systems for different needs
This version of the A9II is designed for the Olympic Games. No video picture profiles.
Does anyone know the maximum write to speed for the A9II to UHS-II SD V90 cards? I am trying to choose between ProGrade 256GB V90 and the Sony 128GB SF-G V90 Tough Series cards, Does anyone use the ProGrade cards?
I did a speed test with the A7III using both UHS-I and UHS II cards so you should be able to get some value from that. The only difference is that the A9II has dual UHS II cards so it can process dual raw at the same speed as single raw vs the A7III that slows down when shooting dual raw since the 2nd card slot is slower
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@@learningcameras I was able to find out the maximum write to card speed for the A7RIV is 200MB/S. So anything faster then that would be overkill? I like the Sony SF-G V90 cards that write @ 299MB/S but wanted a 256GB size but the biggest they make is 128GB.
@@attilahardy3448 I highly recommend these cards: amzn.to/2TILGj0
super rugged and very close to max write speeds as well as being UHS-II for a fraction of the cost of those SF-G cards
Very nice video
It feels like this camera upgrade really wasn’t needed. It’s nice, but a A7siii is much more needed.
Btw I love the frank convo between you two. My favorite camera couple
Yeah, it's weird they ok to upgrade this with the same sensor and specs just for a new body and a few AF increases but in 2 generations they didn't do even a functional body upgrade to the SII. Thank you so much too! Means a lot
Dan Watson right. Are there any other rumors of Sony releasing another “major camera” soon? Or was this it for the rumors?
Sadly, I think this means that they simply can't do 4K 60 in these bodies, and they know that they will be roasted if an a7sIII comes out without it...so they simply don't release one. The Sony magic is starting to fade, and reality is setting in.
@@Rationalific It might be true. Maybe they are still having heat issues. Its crazy that people have been asking for the a7siii for 2 years now.
A7Siii needs to die. Most of us don't care... For still shooting Siii will be useless. Vloggers go away please
any pointers as to why the A9II EVF would show so many artifacts ( purple blue moire ) and has so little resolution especially while half pressing the shutter ?
Yes, when you half press the shutter the EVF quality goes down. I can't remember where it is but I believe there is a setting for EVF or viewfinder frame rate. If this is turned on high, the quality will be sacrificed in order to maintain the better refresh rate. Turn this to standard viewfinder frame rate and the quality should improve. When this camera came out, getting a viewfinder with that resolution at a frame rate high enough for 30fps was unheard of but the camera couldn't do both at the same time. Most phone screens work like this as well where if you turn up the refresh rate of the display, the phone screen can't work at the max resolution
@@learningcameras Hey Thanks so much !
Thanks for the honest and frank convo I appreciate that. I was a little disappointed with no sensor upgrade and slog 2 just my 2 cents but I know others will love this camera. Can I whisper that they’re sounding a lot like Canon. Has Sony stopped listening?
I prefer the camera not change ergonomics from A9ii. It feels bigger from A9 which did not bother me in sporting event shoots.
Should have had a A99 body with built-in battery grip, 6mil EVF, 3.5" HD OLED fully-functioning touchscreen, Dual XQD cards, 30fps, 36MP & 4K60. That would be called big improvement.
She’s his wife!? Good job bro! 👍 btw nice camera
I am good with the ergonomics for my work. I don't won't a larger camera.
I do, I came from a Canon 1DX mark II and loved the larger size.
1Dxii had 4k60 with full AF from 2016 and it's been used by lots of videographers despite its weight and size.
Sony has no idea what a big market they missed out on.
I’m a Canon guy, but wow, it seems like Sony really does listen to their customers.
Except for flip out screens.
1DX and 5D series don't have flip out screen either.
Can someone help me stick up a few bad guys to get this camera? Hey, I am doing the public a service by delivering justice
Slog 2 picture profiles ?
Nope
I am happy because soon, I'll not have to sale my kidneys to get the a9MK1. There is a God!
Yes!! Please give us a bigger LCD screen with a better touch interface. Also, I have large hands and I would greatly appreciate a fuller body. I know that Sony has filled out their lens lineup but I am in need of more affordable long glass at 2.8. The 400 2.8 is amazing but too pricey. Please Sony, come out with a 300 2.8 G, a 300 4.0 G, and a 400 4.0 G. These lenses would greatly complement the A9II. Hey while I am asking cellular connectivity would be amazing. Of all the camera manufactures, Sony can do this. Sony needs something that can compete with the cell phone market.
HLG???
Hi Dan,
I think that you and Sally make a great couple and I enjoy watching your videos.
I have a request for a video, however, I want to tell you a little bit about my Photography. In 2013, I started shooting on a Nikon D600, (their "Entry Level" full frame camera). About 2 years ago, I sold all my Nikon gear, and switched to the Sony a7III. (Their "Basic" Full Frame camera). I had heard what Sony was doing and I wanted to be a part of it.
When I shot Nikon I had a version of the Holy Trinity, but what I found out was
that I didn't like it. I have decided for my photography I want to shoot with all Prime Lenses. I have the Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 OSS Lens, and I am going to buy the Sigma 35mm f/1.2 DG DN Art for FE.
What I can't seem to decide is what camera I want as my primary camera for the next few years. (I will make the Sony a7III my second camera.) I have to decide between the Sony a7RIV and the Sony a9 II. This is not an easy decision!
The 61MP Sensor on the a7RIV is amazing. I would love to have all that resolution, so I could
shoot wide and crop my photos in post. Also, having a 26MP APS-C mode would be like having a second focal length lens on my camera.
I like the a9 II too. I love the electronic shutter that let's you shoot silently, and up to 1/32,000 of a
second. This would be awesome when paired with the Sigma 35mm f/1.2 DG DN Art FE, because I could shoot with an aperture of f/1.2 at High Noon and blow out the background without over exposing the image. Another thing, I have heard that the a9 II has the better focus system and is much better at driving the big glass like the: 600mm f/4 GM.
Can you make a video comparing the a9 II to the a7RIV? I think this is a common problem when upgrading from the a7III. Do we go with the electronic shutter or with a super high MP camera? (I can only afford to buy one!)
Tonny and Chelsea looking different today
i know how tough it is for you guys to introduce a9ii .. same old 24 MP .. argh ..
I’m confused - did you actually get a copy of the A92 or are you guys just talking about the specs?
We got a briefing by Sony about a week ago and got to ask questions but no one has received a physical copy yet
@@learningcameras fair enough - the title of your video and the way you had the two cameras in front of you, the bts footage made it seem like you've already played with it. A bit deceiving. All that aside, thorough review on paper.
The Lady is right!
It seems the only reason people are excited about this camera is the fact that it will push down the price of other cameras. With this new offering it makes more sense to just get the original A9.
A9ii = Sony A9 Olympics Edition
ThePanda in the house, Yes, I can't afford this camera
Phil Jones65 don’t you moan too? Your human?
now I know why there was no press event for this camera, nothing really to get excited about, everyone already new when the A7r lV came out that the A9ll would have the same ergonomics and sd card slots. so there are almost no surprises with the A9ll, the original A9 had the best focusing system on the planet, and the A9ll is the same. and same sensor. I think only a small percentage of A9 owners will upgrade to this new camera, just like a small percent of A7r lll users will upgrade to the A7r 1V, but for people who don't already own an A9, the A9 ll is a great camera. the ergonomics i know some people will like more, extra weather sealing is always a good thing, the two fast card slots, and the connectivity, 10fps mechanical shutter, but for me personally, I was hoping for a slight raise in MP, and even though the focusing is already amazing, I was hoping to hear that Sony even made it better, and I have been wanting a fully functional tough screen for ages now, I really don't get why it isn't easy for Sony to give it to us. so for now I will be sticking with my A7r lll until the A7r 5 or A9lll comes out, but I will also be curious about the A7s lll, hopefully it has allot more wow factor.
I agree. I have the A9 with all the new firmware updates. I will not be buying the A9II because I am not a sports photographer but a wildlife one. I will be waiting for a MP boost in the next upgrade and then purchase. I also have the A7RIII and did not upgrade to the IV but may in late 2020. I am sure there will be firmware updates for both cameras so that may change my purchase plans.
Yeah well... I thought A7RIV would be a waste and I wasn't going to upgrade. I got one in my hands at a Hunts photo and after using for say 20 mins I knew my R3 was getting replaced. I shoot outdoor nature, wildlife and the MUCH faster auto focus, crop mode, improved ergonomics (deeper grip, improved buttons) and awesome 5.76m EVF are absolutely worth the upgrade! * My R3 has been sold!
What she said
She said " Massive improvement " and yet as the video goes on it's obvious upgrade is minimal. Basically the new thing on A9II is the processor and yet it didn't solve the A9 problem just added " new feature" like "voice memo" which is important to sports photographers and present in Nikon D5 since 2015. ..:) can't wait for Angry Photographer respond. He will roast Sony bigtime. It will be Epic.
And when Nikon can shoot 20 fps without viewfinder blackout, he will remain silent.
@@sosomelodies659 so whats the point of A9II upping the mechanical shutter from 5 to 10 if Sports Photographers prefer silent electronic shutter? What is the point of 20 fps when it is lagging in viewfinder? ..:)
@@crismeman3386 electronic shutter is not fool proof with certain artificial lighting. That's where high frame rate mechanical shutter is necessary. 5 fps mechanical shutter in original A9 made it too dependant on electronic shutter. With 10 fps mechanical shutter the camera becomes more versatile.
@@sosomelodies659 then why brag about silent shooting if is not fool proof?
@@crismeman3386 Cuz you can shoot outdoor sports and wildlife like nobody's business. Silent shooting during press conferences and intimate moments is also an advantage.
You guys are awesome.
alifonso1981 oh gosh! Thank you!!!
No fully articulating screen and behind the time touchscreen technology. Same sensor as the A9 with some added new features equal no upgrade necessary to current A9 owners.
I really appreciate a 'critical' review of this new offering from Sony. I know we both LOVE Sony, but we have to be honest that they're lagging in some ways.
Is a near perfect a9ii now , we need to change ourself to suit what Sony does , we do not need another Nikon n Canon like Sony
Sony introduced the A7iii as the "base model," setting the minimum standard for what a modern full frame mirrorless camera should offer. Yet here, in their new flagship model, they didn't give it picture profiles? This camera fails to meet the minimum standard Sony set for itself.
Micah Turner this camera is simply not for you
@@LeonWei true enough. A flagship that falls below the standard of the "base model" at more than twice the price is not real high on my buy list.
watched till 9:03
I love Sony cameras, but sorry, these are NOT big upgrades, especially for the price difference.
The mayor players will catch-up to each other, so I will remain loyalty to Nikon for life.
4500 pretty reasonable - for minor tweaks. I don't think so!
Go out there and shot some photos , instead of watching about it
The buffer-clearing issue remains because they insist on using an SD-II card instead of what they should use.....a CFExpress. In addition to the same resolution (24MP) and same EVF, this is a very disappointing update.
These are too much expensive
Dan your hands are bigger than Sally's so I get why you don't like the ergonomics and handling.
Great video, but the hair in the face is super distracting. Think your wife kept looking at it too....lol
For me a disappointing update of the Sony A9. No need to change, the Sony A9 can do 95% of what the Sony A9 II can do - with exception of the Network upgrades which I personally don't need. A better backup camera is the Sony A7RIV.
This is a big reason for sales going way down and only pros and monied people have the cash to spend....For the vast majority of the working class the expense is extreme.On the other hand a amature photographer is forced to actually learn lighting,aperture, iso, as well as capturing subjects that carry emotion ,wonder and curiosity. Dslr's are becoming to expensive and too cover the market of regular people ( many are just as good or better than the so called pro's and experts).
Nikon d4s is a steal me no likey toy cameras..
What you don't even have one....Talk about it once you get one
what a disappointment, the firmware updates were more exciting than this
I kind of agree lol
A9II costs as much as original A9 at launch. Now we're getting bigger grip, better buttons, improved battery life, better weather sealing, 10 fps mechanical shutter, 5 ghz wireless, continuous file transfers even with camera powered down, improved AF over last firmware update, newest Bionz processor. This processor alone is ready for future updates that can improve performance and features as Sony sees fit.
Sony seems to think the sweet spot is 24mp. While 24mp certainly is enough. Especially if you’re only printing up to 16x24. But If you’re printing larger it would be nicer to have more resolution. I think they should bump their cameras up to 40 or 50. “I mean all of them not just the a7r series cameras”
as a bird photographer , a7riv or a7riii are slow, a6600 are noisy and less detailed .. 36 mp was the expectation .. anyways Sony needs to do design thinking seriously for the user .. currently they are just in money minting marketing
Dipesh Mehrotra yeah they definitely do need to start being more innovative again. For the past 2 years it’s been recycled cameras. Except for the Sony a7iii. Which in my opinion is still amazing for the price. I personally don’t think it’s slow. But then again I shoot weddings and not birds.
@@matthoffman6962 sony saved my 1500 dollars :) i am planning to get a9 now .. and still be happy for another 3 years atleast ..
If Sony A9 is having problem in clearing 24 megapixel files why ask for more megapixel?
Cris Meman who said it’s having a problem clearing 24mp files? This is more to do with the speeds of the memory cards not the camera itself.
To start there are NO BIG UPGRADES... there are a few upgrades but nothing BIG (apart from a bigger grip)
Can I be happy and disappointed, happy that my current A9 is still great. Disappointed missing a few things , why not upgrade the EVF to match A7r4, why not improve the res of the back screen, why not improve the touch screen capability, yes it’s a faster processor pushing the old 24mp sensor, surprised of no new sensor change, no video improvements. Makes the A7r4 look a lot better thought out upgrade. Over all disappointed.
The new EVF could not handle the fps with no blackout.
Is this a9ii or an a9 facelift🤣😂😂
I have no idea why a smartphone manufacturer like Sony will not put a decent touchscreen in their cameras.
No CF Express, Touch Screen, IBIS, Menu improvements...disappointed. However, this should impact current A9 prices.
Is there a stills camera out there that uses CFexpress? I understand XQD is backwards compatible with firmware update.
again Sony... a camera no one asked for!
The sports photographer's did ask for this.
That is not a A9 II it it is a A9's, no new sensor
So pretty much nothing new.
Suppose to name A9 plus , definitely not mark ii. Just an evolution, Nothing revolution.
HARD pass
More like a Sony a9 PLUS. Slightly bigger, not much different.