If Star Trek and Alien Covenant have taught me anything, it's that you always land on alien worlds without a space suit, ideally without first conducting a detailed bioscan for toxins.
Other races in the galaxy: haha! Look at those idiots! Lets all watch and laugh as they kill themselves and these earthlings at the same time! The alien race when they return home: *an incurable plague wipes out their home planet* Me watching: haha! Idiots!
"it would be like people who live in the Sahara desert invading Australia to steal sand from their beaches". In a really weird coincidence, Arab countries actually buy sand from Australia because the sand from the Sahara desert is too fine to use for construction!
I had forgotten about your speech impediment. I stopped hearing it long ago. You have such wonderful documemtaries. You make so much sense, and in extraordinary detail. Fascinating.
I can't really explain why, but I actually like his speech impediment. It's a million times more preferable to the vocal fry voice millennial girls speak in. You know, that creaky voice that has an upswing towards the end of a sentence, making statements sound like questions. I have a visceral hate towards that voice.
The fact that he has a speech impediment and still pulls off his presentation superbly (better than many presenters i've seen who did not have speech impediments.. lol), just makes it even more impressive.
This has probably been said by someone here already, but in the original book of War of the Worlds, the Martians didn't have space ships or sealed environment suits. You have to remember the book was written in the 1890s. Hard sci-fi of the day was that space travel would be by essentially firing canisters through space with giant cannons, which is how Wells's Martians got to Earth. It is theorised in the book that either microbes didn't exist or Martian medical technology had advanced to the point where they literally forgot that diseases are a thing. They had no possibility of knowing the threats posed by Earth's biosphere, and they had no radios and no way of getting back to Mars to warn them of what might be on Earth. In short, Wells's ideas of an alien invasion may seem ridiculous in hindsight, but at the time the book was written they actually made a lot of sense.
Or they assumed our bacteria and viruses were the same as theirs. I think this is a big hole in science fiction and assumptions when we discuss colonizing exoplanets. I think this will be a huge hurdle if and when we have the technogy to visit other planets. We are very short-sighted in assuming other planets have no viruses & bacteria that will be deadly to humans, and we will have to come up with vaccinations before we can colonize a specific planet.
If I remember the book correctly the Martians captured humans for their own nourishment. Kind of like taking a few snacks from the fridge while burning someone's house down. I think you are correct that somehow the Martians didn't have harmful microbes on their own world. It seems they didn't have much biodiversity at all, if we are to assume the "red weed" is the basic / only plant life.
@@jonstfrancis His point was that people overthinking it, because story was still written in times when people barely could imagine alien invasion, on the first place. Also speaking bout bacteria people commonly forget about indirect threats. Harmless otherwise bacteria could feed on something what aliens didn't predict could be damaged and possibly could even damage the suits if they would have them. Of course IRL space travelers would most likely have multi layer defense (even personal firce field) just in case. But this story was still written in XIX century.
@@TheRezro Not sure to what extent it couldn't be imagined. Space travel was pure fantasy at that time of course but everyone believed in aliens on Mars and other worlds whereas today aliens are seen mostly as far fetched. Martians were pretty much a given back then. Mars was also believed to be much more Earth-like. Spacesuits of course weren't invented back then, and as the OP states they weren't mentioned in the book. It's to be assumed the aliens survived on whatever atmosphere was contained within the craft perhaps with an oxygen source of some kind but none of this was mentioned.
Yes and no. On the one hand water is bloody everywhere. However....if a species evolve in a system with little/no water even in their local space and for whatever reason we are the closest and most easily reached source then it would make a lot of sense if they are desperate. More likely is they would be after our salt. Salt basicly requires liquid water or very specific conditions to accumulate in large easy to access deposits iirc. Our oceans would yeild vast fields of salt that would quite easy to access compared to many other methods of harvesting it. Just pump into a basin and let dry basicly. Cheap, easy and huge yields. Soil may also be of great value. While the compounds to make it are common in the universe the specific makeup of good (to us) growing dirt may not be common at all. Having liquid water, various minerals, and organic mass in it would make it highly prized in some situations compared to say the dead dirt on mars or on someplace like the moon. While their soils could be used as a base they are still missing a lot our dirt has to offer.
@@arcticfox5118 Dude are you serious? If a civilization has the technology to traverse the vast distances of the galaxy they would have absolutely ZERO need to invade a planet with liquid water. They could simply go to a frozen world and scoop up giant chunks of ice the size of cities or continents and bring it back to wherever and melt it down. They would also probably have chemical sciences FAR beyond what we have and they could simply add salt to it and they could add the minerals they needed for their dirt from lifeless planets that have those minerals in deposits. The problem is that we as humans think about these things from our own perspective and not from the perspective of the other alien race who probably has technological capabilities beyond anything any human could imagine. It would be a waste of time and resources to invade a planet when they could get what they needed from others that are lifeless.
@@marine5166 Wow small minded much. Your making a LOT of assumptions. First you assume they HAVE better tech then us. Thats not a sure thing in the slightest even for an interstellar species. Keep in mind that if we HAD to do so, we could today with great effort build an arc that had a decent chance of reaching another star. It would be crude on the same scale as beating rocks together to make tools. But we could DO it. An alien species may have an even easier time of it then we do as well. A long lived species that can go into hibernation for years at a time or can be literally frozen without harm could make the trip with much lower tech levels. We have examples of both of these on earth now. For example the lungfish or woodfrog. imagine a species with woodfrog abilitys that could be frozen for decades at a time and able to wake up for a few years. Just throw 99% of the crew in a giant lead lined meat locker with rotational gravity save who is needed to operate and wake them up every decade or so as needed for biological functions and reproduction. This would allow a minimalist ship with a much lower tech level then our own. Build it on a large enough scale and even 30s and 40s era weapons could pose a problem. say a few million armed troops with the equivlent of WW1 weapons could still do all kinds of damage to our species just via pure attrition if we for whatever reason cant take the ship out before they land troops en mass. Next you assume they can percive the world the same way we do. A species without eyes would not have the same tools to detect worlds we do. Ever tried explaining colors to a blind man? A blind species would have no idea what optics are or even how to make them. Keep in mind optics are where we learn about the makeup of other planets. Sure they MIGHT figure something equivlent out but it may be the only way they have to detect planets away from their own is to either blunder into them or hear them ah la the signals we send out or some other tech that wouldnt occur to us but which shows us as the easiest to reach planet. Hell its likely they wouldnt even know we exist until their too close to reroute. And considering how damn violent a lot of our culture is world wide. when and if they detect us amd decode our language on the way in they may attack because they assume we would try to blow them out of the sky on sight just on general principle. Next you instantly assume they have better chemical sciences then we do. Again there is no reason for this. Aliens by their very nature would think very diffrently then us. Their tech may and likely WILL evolve along a very very diffrent path then our own. They may never learn how to make salt because they found ways to not need chemistry the same way we do. You also asssume they would have the basic materials they need. Hard to make salt if both sodium and chlorine are as rare to them as say platinium is to us and their home system is devoid of it. Next you also assume they could go to a dead world where their is water. Maybe they could but unless you have starwars levels of tech it would be damn stupid to go to an empty star system just in the hope of a resource that would take generations and maybe hundreds or thousands of years to harvet enough of to make the trip worth it then you have the logistics of getting it back ontop of that. It would be much easier to pick a likely looking world for colonization and go THEIR instead. You get both the resource you want AND a second home for your species. If their happen to be aliens there when you show up you may decide to wipe them out for full unfettered access to the resources and the habital planet rather then risk them killing you off and stealing your shit or wipeing out your own race. And these are only the things off the top of my head assumeing they want to invade for our water/salt/ect. While its true that its not the most likely reason. Its also a very valid if somewhat cliche reason under the right conditions.
@@svmwasthesheet1971 How dare i what? Have an opinion not your own? How dare i take exception to someone who ignores half my first post on why a species with very limited water in their home system may decide to go elsewhere for resources? How dare i assume that another species may be able to survive in deep space much better then we can and be able to leave home with far inferior tech in a "do or die" situation? How dare i make a guess at why an alien species MIGHT find invasion more viable then harvesting water in a dead system because SURPRISE aliens are alien and will almost certainly think differently then us? How dare i postulate that they will almost certainly be biologically different or may have differing levels of resources, that to us are literally as common as dirt? Resources which may be worth their weight in gold to them especially as their system may be a dead one, not have planets or moons they can mine I.E gas giants? How about how dare YOU for not pausing to consider a situation before attacking someone else just because YOU can't form a rebuttal or have an intelligent conversation.
Ken Lee No...Why would I if I don't want to? If the accent puts me off why would I continue to watch past the first 10 seconds? Why would I assume it would change? Hook me in or don't expect me to force myself to watch something I don't want to.
Well, what if they also needed something desperately to survive that was on Earth? We would certainly take the risk of avoiding something to achieve something we needed to survive.
@Jim Man I'm surprised that they didn't actually make a remake, considering that it is relatively known cult movie? Personally I wounder if they don't going that way in The Expanse?
@Jim Man Never saw the movie, So..kind of like the DC's Lanterns except with tech and not an "energy"? Talking about thought creating matter kind of thing.
Oh you forgot Shyamalan's Signs, where the aliens invade a planet wich has its surface mostly covered by water, where at any given day, rain is falling at some point, the atmosphere has a lot of water in suspension on it, where all life is water based, water is poisonous to them, and they come to the fight naked. You spit or pee on them and you kill them. they beat you up. you bleed and you kill them. They don't even bring an umbrella. No. Completely naked.
Those Aliens were the epithomy of _stupid aliens_. Why wasn't there a point where anyone kind of just said "Mr. Shyamalan, I think you should take a second look at the script right here". How can he make actors and other movie professionals go along with his films is what is trully dumbfounfding. This is his real call, to convince people to work and or give him money for him to produce turd after turd.
On your point about Sahara and Australia. Australia is actually a mass exporter of sand to the Middle East because the sand found there isn't very useful for construction. For that you need beach sand.
Wait, what? What's the point of having a huge desert if you can't even use the sand in it? That's just to show someone areas are just useless no matter how much you try to change it.
+Ryan Zahrani The grains of sand have the wrong shape. Wind-blown sand is awful construction material. Sand from the sea is much better. See the episode from _Tom Scott_ called _The World Is Slowly Running Out Of Sand._
Dang, now I have an idea for a crazy alien invasion idea. They want our art, to sell back home. And they believe the art will sell better if the creator of the art is dead, preferably in something tragic.
Would really different economic structures go in the 'crazy aliens' folder? Cause a lot of the paradoxes seem to assume that a species acts in its long term interests, instead of as a collection of short term interests. Long term, it may make sense for the species to go into space, but it may not make economic sense for any group in the short term. I think you mentioned it in one of your videos, that the people building the spaceship are unlikely to profit from it, and any profit is likely to be deferred far beyond the usual investment timeframe. I haven't watched the transhumanism video yet, which I suppose would be the place to look for the impact of a radically changed lifespan on economic philosophies.
Nazca Lines creators more than dead now,all they are died with suffer and malice aforethought in the desert under sunlight without water-nobody still in aliens form not try to cut off one.
I always found Arthur C Clark put a lot of thought into Alien motives in his Rama series, advanced beings cataloguing and studying intelligent lifeforms by way of a 50km long starship that goes around collecting and housing volunteer representatives of various infant space faring species.
"It's like people coming from the Sahara desert invading Australia to come and steal sand from their beaches" XD Wow, that is definitely one of the best things I have ever heard! lol!
Funny you should say, Invading Australia to take it's sand. Most of the sand on the beaches in Hawaii come from Australia. The Kurnell peninsular south east of Sydney had some of the largest sand hills in the country. They were sold to the US.
Great content. Thought I'd be the nerd and clarify the Ender's Game statement. The Queens didn't think humans were individually intelligent but were hive minded like themselves. They assumed that killing humans in ships was merely their way of saying "hello, we're in the area - we don't intend to kill your queens (thinking humans were merely worker bees) as well, but we want to park on your planet... hope you don't mind". I think this in itself is illogical. Establishing a survey and communication line first would have made the most sense, but then the story would likely fall apart. Either way, the motive for war falters, but for a different reason than portrayed. ... now keep feeding us with great content, it's all quite inspiring. ;)
This was great, though I think there may have been one notable omission. Crop circles. We've recently deciphered the language behind the designs they leave in the corn. The message? "Surrender, Earthlings, or the potatoes are next."
The buggers in Enders game didn’t think that we were too primitive to be intelligent, you just didn’t read the books. The buggers attacked s at first because they though the individual crew members, soldiers, and civilian humans were just drones, they had no idea they were murdering anyone, they thought of each human individual like a cog in a machine and therefore replaceable like the bigger drones were, they never killed any human queen so to them they never actually killed anyone at all. They found out later that humans were not lifeforms with a hive mind like the buggers were, and after they lost the first war they retreated to their home world never to attack again because they realized that they just murdered a huge number of innocent people for comparatively petty reasons. Most of the humans leading or military, and most civilians as well, feared that the buggers were going to attack again and that they were just amassing their fleet for a few years, and so, much like the buggers, we humans killed a crap ton of life forms only to find out later that it was all a misunderstanding, and that both sides had now committed genocide for reasons that were based on false information.
meeg_2005 he is correct though. Every human ever has been fundamentally logical. Not every human action is rational, but it will always have a consistent internal logic to the human who did the action.
David Stinnett People will act rationally in pursuit of irrational designs. People are not usually motivated by logic. In the movie the Predator, the aliens come to earth on safari, just for fun. To hunt us.. People do what makes them feel good. And there's no reason to believe that aliens are any different
Or Isaac Arthur hasn't read the books since he was in the target demographic and forgot the details. Your analysis is otherwise valid, but tainted by needless hostility and condescension.
I love this channel. I 'found' it very late, during the lockdowns in Amsterdam, Netherlands. I've been digging thru the various videos, it's all very very good.
Qnaughts. Where we go one we go all. Our current major problem solved. Something else's problems going to become much worse a few thousand years from now.
I feel like a big reason to come to earth and do all those weird things that happen in Sci-fi movies, even doing what the invaders in Independence Day did, would be because of boredom. Some group of aliens got bored, decided to see if they could breed a fleet of organisms capable of invading a planet, but incompetent enough to get destroyed. I'm sure if you filmed it all and sent it back home to Comedy world in the Hollywood system, you could make a hefty chunk of money in movie ticket sales. Plus you also have to consider that in an especially advanced civilization would have members of their society that could operate a space fleet but might not be especially smart, and end up actually doing incredibly dumb things. Like a ten yer old maxing out their parent's credit card on Angry Birds or whatever. Operating technology like an iPad and using complex features like micro transactions do certainly require intelligent members of your species, but even a caveman can be taught to max out a credit card on a video game.
Sure, you don't need to be a genius to operate a car or plane, but one would tend to bet a limited meritocracy will be in play in most tech-civs. The people making the decisions won't be idiots, not in the extreme sense anyway, jokes about congress aside they tend to be highly educated and usually rather sly. And sure they could breed a race of idiots for an invasion but they could also breed one to be invaded, or just run a simulation. Remember that once we assume there's one other race within proximity who can invade, we have to several others within a slightly larger zone, including those who could invade them. It's never them vs us in isolation, they always have to worry about what others are thinking about what they did.
Isaac Arthur Wow, I didn't expect a reply, thanks. And while I do agree that an advanced alien race would like to keep appearances up, in an especially powerful and advanced civilization, you might have ten year olds in charge of a fleet because something like a fleet of millions of dumb bred-to-order invaders and whatever tiny k-0 civilization they invade may just be so small and insignificant to them that a higher government is entirely indifferent to their fate. Sure their mom or dad or whatever they have as parents may be upset that they tried to destroy a planet, and also broadcasted the whole ordeal, whether intentional or not, to the rest of the galaxy, but when's the last time your parents got mad at you for burning an ant hill? A K-0 civilization to a hyper-advanced k-3 would be entirely insignificant. Yes, while the majority of aliens in such a civilization would be rather smart and act responsibly and with dignity, there would probably be just as many, if not more, who are incredibly stupid as well. I also don't feel like this sort of situation would be entirely realistic or plausible. It's mostly just my way of explaining incredibly dumb aliens in Hollywood; just ignorant children trying to invade their first planet. Anyways, thanks for the input, I always forget about how there's no hiding in space, among many other details of advanced societies, so it's always nice to hear from someone who is more familiar with the whole picture.
I usually manage to reply to most of the comments, though we keep the FB group for longer stuff :) I'm quite sure every civ will have its fair share of morons but its likely to be relative, odds are pretty good interstellar civs are mostly composed of immortals with tons of genetic or cybernetic enhancement in their brains. It's something we usually factor in to the big picture on this stuff but there's so many options to keep track of that, like the no-stealth-in-space thing, it is easy to forget it and leave it out of your assumptions.
Isaac Arthur I've noticed, it's pretty impressive how active you are in the UA-cam comments with how many subscribers and commenters you have. Again, thanks for the input. I'll also have to check out that Facebook group.
If Aliens ever interact with us I think it more likely the Aliens would be in one of the following categories- criminals, political dissidents, religious zealots, thrill seekers and not official representatives of their civilizations - official representatives would only be here in a scientific research capacity with any interaction being accidental.
I would love to see a movie, where we witness an invasion on an alien planet, during most of the run time we can not see the actual attackers, but rather just their weapons. The invaders are of course humans, several tens of thousand years from now. So these poor bastards are taking a beating, right. But then! It turns out that was just some offshoot bandit clan that was trying to dominate a younger civilisation for kicks, A police force of the actual humanity's core arrives and outright blaps these bastards out of the sky, apologises, leaves couple hundred terrabytes of useful science, and takes off.
kinda reminds me of really meh outer limits episode where some human space explorers landed on a planet to colonize, took out some humanoid aliens running around who had only clothes and some weird totem thinking they were just local primitive species they could just sweep under the rug if they were wiped out. It turned out that totem was a transmitter and those aliens were basically children on a camping trip and had called their father to pick them up. The human explorers got annihilated with lasers from his ship and then went on to Earth for continued vengeance.
Reminds me of the two last books of DUNE. When the Honored Matres return to the Old Galactic Empire from the Scattering, they arrive with fleets of no-ships with planetary destruction weapons and absolutely crush any old empire world. Their technology is absurdly advanced, and their behavior erratic. They are human invaders attacking human worlds, exactly like aliens would.
I wrote an unpublished short story where the 'Tran' (Terrans) invade a world with late 20th early 21'st century tech. The Tran are never seen, always fighting from orbit!
Our visitors are indeed bandits, we are the younger civilisation. The police force exists, but the rules state that we be given the opportunity to fight back and claim our world by ourselves first. Our primary resource is that this star is the only island in a sea of empty space with our planet being the most exotic choice of stopover. If we can control our value then we'll have real bargaining power early in our regional development.
Isaac, I recently found your videos and I love them and I love you. I also love the quirks of your speech as they make you stand out among the sea of generic UA-camrs doing try-hard announcer voices and British accents. Your content is interesting, your writing is thoughtful, and your voice is delightful. Thank you!
As a side note, I really like the story and reasoning of XCOM, because that story actually has a reason for the aliens to fight us on the ground and purposefully keep their more powerful units in the back until months into the war. In Xcom the aliens fight on the ground even though they could just kill us all from orbit, and the main reason they use is because the humans reverse engineered their stuff to even the playing field, and the main reason they let that happen was because that was the whole point.
@@joeshmo8267 like the galactic life cycles in Mass Effect. It is more beneficial to shape other beings technological progress in ways that you understand. If allowed to their own devices they may create something that is capable of defeating your best. While this is highly unlikely it is still a potential issue. Plus if they are already on track to reproduce what you already know it is easier to thwart knowledge in certain areas, or pinpoint divergences in application and theory.
So alien children are going to put us against red ants and black ants? Haha I fancy my chances then. Reminder to self: keep magnifying glass in back pocket incase of alien child abduction. And if a sunny day this ant hasn't a chance. Those piss ants I will show them.
We are Pakleds. Our ship is the Mondor. It is broken. We are far from home. We need help. We look for things. Things we need. Things that make us go. We need help. We are far from home.
QUICK!! Activate crimson force field immediately. ..... wow: can't believe how quickly that level of Trek Trivia came to me: i may have more nerd genes than i thought!!
I have to defend Babylon 5. The Minbari flashing their weapons was a pretty reasonable mistake. Imagine you meet some weird alien creature and it suddenly tries to grab you. From that point of view shaking hands doesn't sound very sensible either yet im sure some human might make that mistake. What shaking hands actually signifies is that our hands are empty of weapons. What the minbari were doing was showing off their weapons going "Look, here's our weapons. We got nothing to hide." Same reason an old style sailing ship might fire it's cannons as it gets into harbor or leave. It's a celebration and a way to show that their cannons are now empty. (Spoilers for Enders Game) As for Enders Game the Buggers simply had no experience with non hivemind species. They thought the ships destroyed were filled with drones. Their usual way of alerting a fellow queen to their presence was to squish some of the drones so they'd take notice and then initiate contact. Unfortunately they couldn't do that because humans weren't telepathic hive minds. Based on their psychology it makes sense.
Just to add in Babylon 5 during the first contact the leader of the Minbari yells at the crew the second he finds out they are approaching the earth ships with gun ports open, and is horrified the moment he hears this is happening. I think its just that in a caste system based so much on tradition the crew was following protocals that weren't designed for first contact. But if they thought about it for even a second like their leader did they would realize it was idiotic.
I think the minbari first contact still falls under "stupid aliens." With jump capable ships as the b5 universe needs to ply the stars, it can be assumed the ability to use sensor systems is fairly ubiquitous - for that reason, opening your gun ports while approaching an unknown alien fleet, can only be read as a prelude to attack. Even without advanced sensors or competent radar ops that would make informed guesses at the weapons the aliens possessed. You could also make a projected guess at the overall power of reactors required to move the alien ship just going by estimated size/volume/weight/power necessary to open a warp rift for the ships given size, and give an estimate of what could also be shunted to weaponry while running everything at once. Next, the EA fleet did attempt to flee, but the minbari's opening scan damaged and rendered the human fleets warp drives inoperable. Which again, why spool up your military grade sensors to ping the new contacts in system, when passive readings would accomplish nearly the same unless attempting intimidation when you know your sensors blow out systems on the lower races ships? For a space faring race that had been cruising around for the preceding 1000 years or so to not have a dedicated first contact protocol is a bit stupid - if it were some small transport vessel crewed by red shirts hauling Domino's to the pizza sector, maybe, but not when it's your fleets largest ship, carrying your grand council, with your people's greatest leader. The EA fleet attacked first, yes, but to them they had already been attacked first by having their drives taken out, but I will admit that having an exploratory fleet fitting first on ships much fancier than your own is fairly idiotic as well.
i think the mimbari were supposed to be a stagnant species, they were far ahead of everyone besides the first ones, and saw themselves as guides and protectors of the younger races, the conceit that their way was the only right way was wholly ingrained in any membari who was not directly tasked with interacting with other species.
BAYLON 5 was crappola! All it was is race riots, genocide, genocide, genocide - after that it was conspiracies, or reliving WW2. In the end it was just derivative of STAR TREK but set in a dark dystopian future peopled with bad actors
HeliosFive True enough. In my land A hand wave is friendly enough, until by a slight change in the hand's angle it becomes a warning of incoming violence.
Also, meeting the entities in the DMT realm is super interesting. Particularly the Mantid beings. They show up in abductions occasionally so I wonder why people see the same beings.
Chemicals react in weird ways that can’t always be tested for when first thought about. I’ve never broken through on DMT but I have experienced ego death, and I know how to know what nothing is without it being something in my head. I can imagine that nothing without it feeling like the nothing, and so on. I couldn’t do that before, and I can’t not do it now. There is no test I can think of that can prove or disprove my hypothesis’ on why this is the case. I think extra dimensional aliens may be more common than 3d ones
Earth calling Smugness 4, Come in smugness 4... I have just laughed myself stupid! I found your series a few weeks ago and have spent probably 20 hours learning and confirming. Time well spent!
During WW2, one of the major factors in the US victory in the Pacific was our focus on damage control. The Japanese Bushido culture focused on combat almost exclusively. An activity like damage control was almost one lacking honor and therefore the Japanese military's damage control capabilities were near zero. When the US and Japan would trade punches, the US would be able to sustain far more damage and keep their ships. (Yorktown...) This has nothing to do with a superior intellect, just cultural priorities. It is easy to imagine a Independence Day alien culture which while highly intelligent had never encountered the concept of a computer virus and therefore has no defense against them. Weakness to a particular attack does not constitute stupidity, just the inability to know what you don't know and know how to counter it. Sun Tzu encouraged generals not only to know their enemies, but themselves. That latter one is often the hardest and what can lead to disaster in combat. History is littered with victims of cultural blinders, from the Alps being impassible (Hannibal) to Enigma being unbreakable (Germany). Neither of the victims of those blinders were stupid. P.S. I love the channel, it is one of my few subscriptions.
I'd never heard that - thanks, it was interesting. Good point - intelligence isn't one single linear thing. Intelligent Japanese naval planners (according to you...) de-emphasized damage control; maybe foolishly, in retrospect, but not exactly unintelligently.
The Americans also had an "all-or-nothing" armor scheme on their capital ships and cruisers, where critical systems had more armor and non-critical systems had less armor than other ships their size and displacement. So you could knock a U.S. ship out of action by disabling its steering or fire control, but you could shoot at it all day and not hit its magazines or boilers. This is exactly what happened to the USS _South Dakota_, which took 26 hits from two Japanese battleships and cruised back to base, albeit with her radar and comms completely disabled.
Excellent point, lack of experience of your opponents strength's and weakness does not constitute lack of intelligence. PS Let's not take the writings of Sun Tzu as an infallible bible.
I didn't enjoy the first episode I listened to, however, it didn't take long for me to find this one of the best series on you tube. I no longer notice the speech impediment and think Issac is great at covering these topics.
I agree. I think he sounds just fine to me. I didn't even notice it much until it was mentioned. I like it now if he had someone else read it wouldn't be the same. Like singers with unique voice's.
treekangaroo.: if this were his native planet, you may have something there. If it isn’t and he is a CO from elsewhere and knows a few thousand languages....
I liked the old SNL skit where the aliens are much LESS advanced than humans. Threatening us with "The might of our muskets" (apparently they just found a spaceship)
Good sir. I don't know if you meant this to be humorous or not but it was pure comic genius. Best part: "I mean just look at us..." Shows image of warning sign stating not to touch other end of chainsaw. 😂
I always thought of the virus in Independence Day worked because the aliens thought humans were too stupid to do anything that could harm them. Humans think apes are too stupid to figure out how a lock works. What are aliens who travel across interstellar space in city sized ships going to think us?
Yes, maybe humanity had an advantage because the aliens had low expectations, but Earth is not the only planet that they had attacked and they were a militant race... So some sort of security should have prevented, isolated, or reduced the effect of the virus.
consider that most people don't need to know HOW a magnet works to know that it will stick stuff to the fridge. then assume that any large organisation (including alien) is going to have a certain percentage that do "minimal effort" and it quickly becomes obvious that there is always room for incompetence.I have worked for an international IT organisation where the actions of one individual and his badly written script completely reinstalled and overwrote 1200 servers and user data
Ray V Victory breeds arrogance. After exterminating so many other species and having no problems with it, they may have felt no need robust computer security. That's also not including the fact they may have thought our computer tech was incompatible with theirs.
The more I learn about the vastness of space, the more I'm starting to doubt any intelligent life form can travel thru space. Its sad a depressing to think about it. How we squander among each other over our existence on something the size of a needle head. This maybe the reason we have not seen aliens. Maybe robots who can live millions/billions of years can travel thur space.
7:40 I feel like thus far in the video you have looked at everything from a logical perspective, and ignored much of culture or alien ethics, which could be something like "If the almighty Universe wishes us to be the galactic overlords, it will let us win in a head-to-head battle against these primates. But if otherwise, the Universe will help them defeat us", or something like that. They might instead have some ethics or culture against growing food inside a lab and want all-natural consumables, perhaps for some purpose of avoiding any nasty chemicals that could severely harm their bodies.
One problem in trying to anticipate what aliens would be like is that we have little understanding of just how creative evolution can be. For instance, fish, cetaceans and ichthyosaurs are often cited as examples of convergent evolution coming up with similarly streamlined body plans to deal with the constraints of fast motion in water. But, all three of these creatures are vertebrates and can't depart too much from that initial vertebrate body plan. Adding a fourth creature to the roster, namely squids, shows that fast moving streamlined creatures don't have to look like fish, and that evolution has no real problem inventing very different solutions to the same problem. So I think that when we finally encounter aliens, not only will their physical appearances and modes of intelligence be shockingly different from what we would have expected, they will be shockingly different from what we COULD have expected.
I strongly agree. Alien life, and especially alien minds, are likely to be ALIEN. It's very hard to imagine anything much beyond rubber-headed english speaking bipedal Star Trek aliens. I mean, it's actually difficult. Especially the mental properties. Squids and starfish will likely seem much more familiar and nearer to "human" than ET will seem.
+DrIBeast lol, so you expect aliens to be reptiles and mammals, with hot or cold blood that dictates their mental capacity? I think it's just as likely they'll be Armenians as mammals.
Octopuses manage to have problem-solving intelligence without a backbone or a warm-blooded metabolism. Their brains are large, but they also have a somewhat decentralized nervous system that is distributed among their arms.
I like this audiobook called expeditionary force. I like the concept there. The higher civs hold class over the other with tech control. And higher species use lower species to fight as a means of preventing the higher species from using high tech universe wrecking weapons. Anyway love the videos your awesome.
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I just enjoy hearing Isaac speak so much and the topics he talks about are so on the mark and make sense in every way. This channel is very thought-provoking. I subscribed to know when you upload new video topics. They make me think which I enjoy doing thank you, Isaac. Peace and be good to each other. :)
The_Argus_ Plexus I'm just saying, when he hits 100k, I've been here since 1k
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With the quality of the content shared on this channel it has to happen. This is still a rather small channel but it is growing steadily, and the more subscribers a channel has the more likely it is to show up in the recommended videos of new people. +Isaac Arthur and team Great stuff you are sharing, I love it! Keep up the good work. :-)
@@christophershumake2640 RE: "We're probably all just rimworld players" I'm a Boomer and I've never heard of Rimworld, but I do know what long pig means.
0:15 they hadn't updated the antivirus software in a while, its a pain you see, gotta restart the whole ship, turn everything off, wait for that fucking bar to finish loading or to even move forward at all. You know, they probably clicked the "remind me later option" just like we do every day.
Just wanted to tell you that I've just found your channel, am having LOTS of fun watching your videos, and have already subscribed. Your content is not only both entertaining and thought-provoking, it is also just so well done. Thanks a million!
The Revelation Space series from alastair reynolds gives a good reason why a higher advanced Species could supress all interstellar lifeforms. Spoiler: They want to keep the galactic dominance to have the ressources and unity to save all species from a galatic extinction event in the far future. If you have thousands of species in eternal conflict you do not get the unity you need to think "global". It is like our planet earth now, with all the different nations, not even able to prevent the climate catastrophe.
Amazing video again. I have watched a lot lately and just now I found out about your speech inpediment. Now I understand the way you say "air". Now I know it's kind of charming. I love your work. Thanks for the AMAZING work Isaac. Hugs from Brazil. I love your voice on videos. Sounds like a professional narrator.
i feel you man, i have the same speech issue, it used to be so bad it was hard to understand me. i ended up completely changing my vocabulary to avoid the dreaded R as much as possible, its much better nowadays. seeing your channel has actually given me some confidence
Stupidity seems to be a universal constant, just look at humans. "Oh wow, the entire city burned down because we built it right over a fault line, what should we do?" "BUILD IT BIGGER!"
Eh, that's just short-sightedness, which humans excel at even on the international scale. "We've just had a big quake, meaning the next one is not due for, like, another century or so. And this location is really convenient for strategic reasons/resources/proximity to water. Let my grandkids deal with that earthquake issue when it pops up again."
I find your interesting and intelligent narration quite easily followed and the fact you have a small speech impediment is not even an afterthought in fact it makes your Hypothesis much more unique and charming . Brilliant.
Thank you! You would think theyd make smart sci-fi seeing how ‘nerds’ are reasonably sophisticated. This whole idea Thanos needed to thin the population is stupid, when resources are not limited when you have FTL ships! They could have had one of his guys ask ‘why don’t we just go to this sector and...’ Thanos kills him and no one else questions his authority because he’s insane!
Thanos' primary moniker is "The Mad Titan". Honestly, it made more sense in the comics, where he was killing to try and court the personification of Death, who preferred Deadpool as a lover.
What's worse is that the directors clearly don't understand why he is wrong. Moreover his measure would be better applied by handling out condoms anyways.
Oblivion was one of the most underrated science fiction films in recent memory. Sure the basic premise doesn’t make a lot of sense, but I was able to see past it as it wasn’t the focal point of the story. Alien AI took over earth and the main character is a slave-clone and struggles to figure out who he is and what the F happened. The reason why the AI took over is kind of an afterthought, IMO.
Lol yeah Oblivion, it's a case study. Great movie in terms of atmosphere and some interesting elements, like the the alien being an AI, but damn was the invasion reason stupid to anyone who knows a bit of astrophysics. Movies need to stop with resource-based invasions. Earth has nothing special and is unpractical to mine.
Wow my comment was loved, I'm flattered. As thanks, I would propose my services for subtitling your videos in French. I'm French. I can't guarantee regular work, but I would certainly have fun translating some of your wonderful videos.
At first I was peeved at Oblivion for having such a dumb motivation for the aliens, but I think you could argue that collecting hydrogen wasn't their reason to be there, rather it was just a Von Neumann probe spreading and replicating throughout the galaxy, who's main purpose was to study and eliminate any other intelligent life that could either evolve to become a threat to it's creator's civilization in the future. So this particular one found Earth and setup shop to do it's job, gathering the hydrogen to fuel its work on Earth. Regardless of the plot, I love the production design (you could even say product design) and visual fx of this film. The director came from an architecture and design background, so it really shines here.
I have watched a few of Isaac Arthur’s videos now, and maybe it’s just that this one is different or I haven’t seen enough of the others, but I busted out laughing multiple times with the humor and word choice that he used. Good job Isaac, you continue to impress, previously with your unparalleled persistence with logical reasoning in various scenarios, and now, with a sense of dry humor that seems nearly equal in magnitude.
Oh, by “Art” I was thinking oil paints and such. But they may look at a Saturn V the same way we look at a canoe, or an ICBM the way we look at a bow and arrow.
Sturn v is canoe, n ICBM is bow and arrow. I'm having hard times imagining something more high-tech than teleportation and warp driver. What will ICBM equivalent technology for them will be👽?
It would violate the mediocracy principle if we were the first though; On the other hand, when looking at it that way, we might not have been the first civilisation producing species on even this planet, complex life has been around on geological timescales, so the planet could have swallowed all traces of anything like that by now far from anywhere humans will ever look, particularly if they never got very technologically advanced, but even if they did. Imo the great filter is probably just when you become capable of producing weapons of mass destruction. Stands to reason that at any time after that there is an ever present non-zero probability your species will self annihilate.
no it wouldn't the mediocrity principle states "if an item is drawn at random from one of several sets or categories, it's likelier to come from the most numerous category than from any one of the less numerous categories" it doesn't state that the the most common will be what is drawn. people too often conflate the idea of something being likely and it being guaranteed same with the idea of something being unlikely and it being impossible. same with the idea of something being the most likely of sevral outcomes and "more likely than not" for instance while I was talking to someone who was playing a game I told them about an item they could get in the area they were in and while I was saying "the drop rate is one in 10 thousand so you probably won't get it" they got the drop and got it with its best enchantment possible which if it had happened at all would be @ best 1 in 1 million as they're are many enchants it could have been. the ods of this happening while I was telling them the ods of it happening are probably somewhere close to 1/3.6 billion this isn't even the least likely event I've seen its just the most recent. assuming you're average is a bullshit fallacy as MOST things are not average.
Perhaps "violate" is too strong a term, it would certainly fly in the face of odds if we were the first, although, someone has to be. “Scientists have calculated that the chances of something so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.” ― Terry Pratchett, Mort
We don't need to be the first in the universe to explain the Fermi Paradox in this way. The Milky Way galaxy itself has an age and so a galaxy older than ours might have a galactic civilization while a galaxy younger than ours might only have basic forms of life. Maybe we are the first of our neighbors, but I doubt it because we didn't emerge directly from abiogenesis, we had a 65 million year period where the planet was dominated by giant lizard-birds before we started up.
for some reason rare events always happen as if they're not that uncommon. its almost enough to wonder if the entire field of statistics is flawed somewhere in the original premise
Or there's the Philip K. Dick interpretation of that. After all, he wondered if his Crab Grass really was Crab Grass. Maybe one day it would take off it's disguise and show it's real self.
Primitive Tribal peoples that have been living on Papua New Guinea & Borneo Indonesia have been practising cannibalism for many centuries for reasons stemming from cultural customs as well as "religious" cosmology / superstitions embedded deeply in it. In their native language the name they have for human flesh and those from whom they acquire it translates into English as well as most Indo- European languages as "Long Pig". I. Arthur didn't just make it up nor did any fiction writer. Some education may be required to know this, as it is not a term commonly heard in most "western" contemporary cultures. As a foot note/ epilogue - it has been documented and reported in several medical journals regarding one of the rarest diseases affecting humans being also that with the highest fatality rating at around 95+ % sometimes called "Laughing Sickness" cases almost if not completely confined to to those same people. It is caused by the practice of eating human brains. There are NO case reports of un-dead folk resulting from this, nor any of walking dead contracting this disease. Victims of the disease die and STAY dead - but not before they go completely barking, bug shit MAD. - I mean more so than they already must have been in the first place. Those with a taste for human brains would certainly starve in the Divided States. Without calling on "Alien Stupidity" , but stupidity so explicit & extreme that it breaks down common credulity like wet toilet paper in a wood chipper. Huge tracts of the citizens, softened up by epi-pandemic stupidity - become drooling moron hosts for all manner of Logic Corrupting DATA infections...The internet, nature deprivation, and religious institutions, are the main vectors which form the degenerative decay factors that create the basis for actual mindless zombification. Hannibal Lecter is fiction invented by Thomas Harris to get rich. The Mosquito does not create the swamp.
Based on surviving a few decades on Earth, in my opinion one of the most dangerous situations might occur with aliens that either do not have a sense of humour and 'humility' [xenility?] or a sense of compassion and probably 'common sense'.
Nowadays I'm used to his speech impediment, but at the beginning it was kind of disturbing, I only stuck because of the awesome content and gradually started understanding him ;) So for broader audience, we'd need not only good CGI budget, but also a host who isn't Isaac... and I bet we wouldn't be happy with him/her! :)
So long as I got to pick the host or narrator I'd be happy, I actually don't enjoy reading the scripts an editing the audio, most boring part of making the episodes.
I highly recommend finding representation to lobby netflix on your behalf. This stuff is solid gold. Rub some star trek actor's voice on it and people will eat it up. Like a forward-looking version of Sir Kenneth Clark's Civilization series.
Isaac Arthur Actually, speaking of The Cosmos (which I enjoyed), it would be really cool to see what you and NdGT would come up with, given his extensive science knowledge, and your knack for making insights and connections that I haven't ever heard of. That's the main reason why I love your channel; not so much for new facts/ideas, many of which I've heard before (don't get me wrong, there are still a fair number I haven't), but the interesting ways they relate. Like the concept of Gardener ships, which takes a fairly mundane sci-fi topic like interstellar colonization, and adds the new twist of specific ships developing longstanding cultural traditions after settling many solar systems.
Excellent point--anything that is not alive or created by life can easily be found on lifeless worlds, and you don't have to exterminate or dominate the local life in order to get it. If you want water or minerals for example, the moons of the outer planets of our solar system have several times more of that than Earth does. So, reasons for wanting to conquer Earth: 1: They want our crops/wildlife (i.e. anything organic that has nothing to do with Homo sapiens per se) 2: They want humans (as slaves or other form of subordinate, or to appropriate our culture or research) Robots would be cheaper economically than slaves for any work that does not require actual sapience, so slavery would probably be for ego or cultural reasons (i.e. they WANT us to serve them or their Gods, even if it's not the most economically profitable thing to do). 3: They don't want us becoming an interstellar annoyance to them, so they want to extinguish us first.
hypnocilicdreams Just like our caviar is caviar and not some alien animal we havn't found yet, I expect their caviar to be an animal/food they already know well.
Caviar comes from the virgin sturgeon, the virgin sturgeon is a very fine fish, but the virgin sturgeon needs no urgin' that's why caviar is a very rare dish. What if their caviar was valued because of it's extreme rarity or difficulty to obtain, and it coincidentally has the exact same taste and texture as, oh, let's say human spinal cord?
I just discovered your Channel I listen to it as you as I go to sleep I had no idea you had a speech impediment but I love your content keep up the good work my brother
Re: 0:43 Being originally from Keene New Hampshire, I never notice your speech impediment at all. I just sounds normal to me, and somehow comforting(as I have now lived in Germany more than 30 years) to me🙂😉
Hey man good stuff. This is probably the first time I commented on something. Anyway if you haven't already, I'd like to invite you to read the Three Body Problem, Dark Forest, and Death's End by Cixin Liu. He's a hard science fiction writer and his way of addressing the Fermi Paradox made a lot of sense to me. His idea is something you haven't addressed in this video so it made me think you probably never read it yet. Do it. Those aliens in the book isn't stupid at all.
So, it's sounding like the general consistency is that the concept of alien invasions is most often made unrealistic through either: 1. The arrogance that Earth is a special planet when compared to others (assuming there is other intelligent life); and 2. The arrogance that humans would be smart and powerful enough to currently take down any reasonable alien threat that arrives to the planet.
I just looked that up, interesting, it doesn't sound like a hungry intelligence, but we should probably keep an eye on it. about 1500 light years away if anyone is curious.
Matthew Brandt definitely not. But maybe thousands of them (we wouldn’t notice just one star). Of course I don’t think that area is rich in infrared, so probably no.
@@robertaylor9218 Thank you for the information. I say we may as well send a signal that way and hope for a response even if it most likely is nothing.
I think its dope that a dude with a speech impediment has millions of people listening to him talk about aliens. Talk about finding your voice lol. I really dig the contet! Lots of interesting topics, I'm gonna be busy for weeks watching them all. Props!
Isaac Arthur If you ever need help rendering things, I built a pretty nice computer for "work" (I'm a game developer, so it's technically true, but I get a lot of personal benefit from it too haha), and would be more than willing to donate some processing power. I'm more used to realtime rendering, but I used to do distributed rendering in 3ds Max back in the day, and it's probably easier than ever. I'm sure enough of us subscribers have capable rigs and technical know how for it to make rendering things easier on you. Either way though, another fantastic video, been looking forward to it all week :)
Thanks Mason, but its not too much a rendering time issue, for me it's actually the prepwork that mostly slows me down, I'm not very skilled at 3D animation.
Isaac Arthur Fair enough :) You do a pretty job at it though, and I've definitely noticed your skills improving, especially recently with the "Life in a Colony" series. I really enjoyed the background footage of the colony ships, because it wasn't necessary, but it shows some of the passion you have for your craft, and was a nice touch.
"Your antivirus is about to expire"
Alien: *remind me later*
I’m not paying the yearly fee for the library updates!
peace leader go ahead if thinking that makes you happy,
Alien: Remind me in: Next Galactic year.
I want to go to the Gastronomy sector.
This looks reasonable
If Star Trek and Alien Covenant have taught me anything, it's that you always land on alien worlds without a space suit, ideally without first conducting a detailed bioscan for toxins.
Exactly. Because of course we have built up immunity to alien viruses and bacteria. 😂
Galaxy police f*ck yeah... Get some!!!!! 👽
Other races in the galaxy: haha! Look at those idiots! Lets all watch and laugh as they kill themselves and these earthlings at the same time!
The alien race when they return home: *an incurable plague wipes out their home planet*
Me watching: haha! Idiots!
@@sednavaporeon7226 Lol!
*Laughs in Deathworlders webnovel*
*Laughs in 21st century British Empire revival due to Space Colonization*
*Laughs in Welsh*
"it would be like people who live in the Sahara desert invading Australia to steal sand from their beaches".
In a really weird coincidence, Arab countries actually buy sand from Australia because the sand from the Sahara desert is too fine to use for construction!
They dig sand from ocean
Well slap my uncles foreskin and hang it up like a Christmas stocking; that’s what I call a sexy fact about sand!
I hate sand... it's coarse, rough, and it gets everywhere....... K, I'm gonna go slaughter a village to avenge my mom's death, byyyyyeeeeeeee!!!
@@QuantumAscension1 I See you are a man of culture.
I hate sand...it's course and rough and it gets everywhere
I had forgotten about your speech impediment. I stopped hearing it long ago. You have such wonderful documemtaries. You make so much sense, and in extraordinary detail. Fascinating.
I can't really explain why, but I actually like his speech impediment. It's a million times more preferable to the vocal fry voice millennial girls speak in. You know, that creaky voice that has an upswing towards the end of a sentence, making statements sound like questions. I have a visceral hate towards that voice.
Fermion Yeah, I feel like his voice makes him so much easier to listen to
I love that he owns it and has cultivated an impressive speaking voice. These are great videos.
Totally agree he has a great speaking voice n chills me the hell out
The fact that he has a speech impediment and still pulls off his presentation superbly (better than many presenters i've seen who did not have speech impediments.. lol), just makes it even more impressive.
This has probably been said by someone here already, but in the original book of War of the Worlds, the Martians didn't have space ships or sealed environment suits. You have to remember the book was written in the 1890s. Hard sci-fi of the day was that space travel would be by essentially firing canisters through space with giant cannons, which is how Wells's Martians got to Earth. It is theorised in the book that either microbes didn't exist or Martian medical technology had advanced to the point where they literally forgot that diseases are a thing. They had no possibility of knowing the threats posed by Earth's biosphere, and they had no radios and no way of getting back to Mars to warn them of what might be on Earth.
In short, Wells's ideas of an alien invasion may seem ridiculous in hindsight, but at the time the book was written they actually made a lot of sense.
Or they assumed our bacteria and viruses were the same as theirs. I think this is a big hole in science fiction and assumptions when we discuss colonizing exoplanets. I think this will be a huge hurdle if and when we have the technogy to visit other planets. We are very short-sighted in assuming other planets have no viruses & bacteria that will be deadly to humans, and we will have to come up with vaccinations before we can colonize a specific planet.
If I remember the book correctly the Martians captured humans for their own nourishment. Kind of like taking a few snacks from the fridge while burning someone's house down. I think you are correct that somehow the Martians didn't have harmful microbes on their own world. It seems they didn't have much biodiversity at all, if we are to assume the "red weed" is the basic / only plant life.
@@retired5218 I low how they address that with green eye bacteria in The Expanse.
@@jonstfrancis His point was that people overthinking it, because story was still written in times when people barely could imagine alien invasion, on the first place. Also speaking bout bacteria people commonly forget about indirect threats. Harmless otherwise bacteria could feed on something what aliens didn't predict could be damaged and possibly could even damage the suits if they would have them. Of course IRL space travelers would most likely have multi layer defense (even personal firce field) just in case. But this story was still written in XIX century.
@@TheRezro Not sure to what extent it couldn't be imagined. Space travel was pure fantasy at that time of course but everyone believed in aliens on Mars and other worlds whereas today aliens are seen mostly as far fetched. Martians were pretty much a given back then. Mars was also believed to be much more Earth-like. Spacesuits of course weren't invented back then, and as the OP states they weren't mentioned in the book. It's to be assumed the aliens survived on whatever atmosphere was contained within the craft perhaps with an oxygen source of some kind but none of this was mentioned.
"Why, Mr. Alien, why did you destroy our planet?"
"We received a transmission of an episode of Big Brother."
"Oh... I see..."
Pretty fair
@Jim Man He had ordered Uber Eats and gave the directions to them He was hungry and wanted to Netflix and Chill.
Understandable. Proceed.
I always knew us Dutch would ruin us all.
@@シロダサンダー You hold back the sea, your hubris know no bounds!
I've always found the "We're here for your water" to be the silliest reason for invading Earth.
Yes and no. On the one hand water is bloody everywhere. However....if a species evolve in a system with little/no water even in their local space and for whatever reason we are the closest and most easily reached source then it would make a lot of sense if they are desperate.
More likely is they would be after our salt. Salt basicly requires liquid water or very specific conditions to accumulate in large easy to access deposits iirc. Our oceans would yeild vast fields of salt that would quite easy to access compared to many other methods of harvesting it. Just pump into a basin and let dry basicly. Cheap, easy and huge yields.
Soil may also be of great value. While the compounds to make it are common in the universe the specific makeup of good (to us) growing dirt may not be common at all. Having liquid water, various minerals, and organic mass in it would make it highly prized in some situations compared to say the dead dirt on mars or on someplace like the moon. While their soils could be used as a base they are still missing a lot our dirt has to offer.
@@arcticfox5118 Dude are you serious? If a civilization has the technology to traverse the vast distances of the galaxy they would have absolutely ZERO need to invade a planet with liquid water. They could simply go to a frozen world and scoop up giant chunks of ice the size of cities or continents and bring it back to wherever and melt it down. They would also probably have chemical sciences FAR beyond what we have and they could simply add salt to it and they could add the minerals they needed for their dirt from lifeless planets that have those minerals in deposits. The problem is that we as humans think about these things from our own perspective and not from the perspective of the other alien race who probably has technological capabilities beyond anything any human could imagine. It would be a waste of time and resources to invade a planet when they could get what they needed from others that are lifeless.
@@marine5166 Wow small minded much. Your making a LOT of assumptions. First you assume they HAVE better tech then us. Thats not a sure thing in the slightest even for an interstellar species. Keep in mind that if we HAD to do so, we could today with great effort build an arc that had a decent chance of reaching another star.
It would be crude on the same scale as beating rocks together to make tools. But we could DO it. An alien species may have an even easier time of it then we do as well. A long lived species that can go into hibernation for years at a time or can be literally frozen without harm could make the trip with much lower tech levels. We have examples of both of these on earth now.
For example the lungfish or woodfrog. imagine a species with woodfrog abilitys that could be frozen for decades at a time and able to wake up for a few years. Just throw 99% of the crew in a giant lead lined meat locker with rotational gravity save who is needed to operate and wake them up every decade or so as needed for biological functions and reproduction. This would allow a minimalist ship with a much lower tech level then our own. Build it on a large enough scale and even 30s and 40s era weapons could pose a problem. say a few million armed troops with the equivlent of WW1 weapons could still do all kinds of damage to our species just via pure attrition if we for whatever reason cant take the ship out before they land troops en mass.
Next you assume they can percive the world the same way we do. A species without eyes would not have the same tools to detect worlds we do. Ever tried explaining colors to a blind man? A blind species would have no idea what optics are or even how to make them. Keep in mind optics are where we learn about the makeup of other planets.
Sure they MIGHT figure something equivlent out but it may be the only way they have to detect planets away from their own is to either blunder into them or hear them ah la the signals we send out or some other tech that wouldnt occur to us but which shows us as the easiest to reach planet. Hell its likely they wouldnt even know we exist until their too close to reroute. And considering how damn violent a lot of our culture is world wide. when and if they detect us amd decode our language on the way in they may attack because they assume we would try to blow them out of the sky on sight just on general principle.
Next you instantly assume they have better chemical sciences then we do. Again there is no reason for this. Aliens by their very nature would think very diffrently then us. Their tech may and likely WILL evolve along a very very diffrent path then our own. They may never learn how to make salt because they found ways to not need chemistry the same way we do. You also asssume they would have the basic materials they need. Hard to make salt if both sodium and chlorine are as rare to them as say platinium is to us and their home system is devoid of it.
Next you also assume they could go to a dead world where their is water. Maybe they could but unless you have starwars levels of tech it would be damn stupid to go to an empty star system just in the hope of a resource that would take generations and maybe hundreds or thousands of years to harvet enough of to make the trip worth it then you have the logistics of getting it back ontop of that. It would be much easier to pick a likely looking world for colonization and go THEIR instead. You get both the resource you want AND a second home for your species. If their happen to be aliens there when you show up you may decide to wipe them out for full unfettered access to the resources and the habital planet rather then risk them killing you off and stealing your shit or wipeing out your own race.
And these are only the things off the top of my head assumeing they want to invade for our water/salt/ect. While its true that its not the most likely reason. Its also a very valid if somewhat cliche reason under the right conditions.
the real end will come from space hipsters gathering artisan bottled xenowater
@@svmwasthesheet1971 How dare i what? Have an opinion not your own? How dare i take exception to someone who ignores half my first post on why a species with very limited water in their home system may decide to go elsewhere for resources? How dare i assume that another species may be able to survive in deep space much better then we can and be able to leave home with far inferior tech in a "do or die" situation?
How dare i make a guess at why an alien species MIGHT find invasion more viable then harvesting water in a dead system because SURPRISE aliens are alien and will almost certainly think differently then us? How dare i postulate that they will almost certainly be biologically different or may have differing levels of resources, that to us are literally as common as dirt? Resources which may be worth their weight in gold to them especially as their system may be a dead one, not have planets or moons they can mine I.E gas giants?
How about how dare YOU for not pausing to consider a situation before attacking someone else just because YOU can't form a rebuttal or have an intelligent conversation.
"we are here for your water"
*"have you ever **_seen_** space my dude"*
Sahara desert: wetter than space vacuum!
Even still, yes, there is a lot of oxygen and it's bound to hydrogen most of the times.
Oh wow its Thursday already?! What a pleasant surprise! I get to watch some amazing content while eating breakfast today.
Oh hey, mate. Glad to see you here.
Hey Cody, good to see you outside the mine! :D
His accent just put me off.
HeavenHammer
So you didn't listen past the first few seconds?
Ken Lee No...Why would I if I don't want to? If the accent puts me off why would I continue to watch past the first 10 seconds? Why would I assume it would change? Hook me in or don't expect me to force myself to watch something I don't want to.
The saddest part of this video, is when it ends. Because then it is over
Alex Vinogradov it do now :)
Don't worry, people gonna watch it on those 100 year long colony ship trips.
I'm Perd Hapley, and this is me telling you that you are watching: "UA-cam with Perd Hapley."
Christian Skyt're can't wait to check out the next one, and all the ones I haven't seen, but still in the end, it'll be wover.....:(
I thought it was evry r in the youtube vid.
yeah like the Aliens from signs, who are allergic to water, who decided its was a great idea to land on a planet that's 70% water. Earth.
Armendicus completely naked too
Well, what if they also needed something desperately to survive that was on Earth? We would certainly take the risk of avoiding something to achieve something we needed to survive.
Yes, but we would wear suits to protect us from the corrosive compound literally dripping from the atmosphere.
Covered in fleshbags that are 80% water, and leak it out of every orifice.
There's a theory that they weren't really aliens but demons. Which makes sense with some of the themes going on and something's in the background.
Isaac said, "commit genocide from the comfort of your own home world..."
🤣😅
Yes, basically a real life Starkiller Base...
@Jim Man I'm surprised that they didn't actually make a remake, considering that it is relatively known cult movie? Personally I wounder if they don't going that way in The Expanse?
@Jim Man Never saw the movie, So..kind of like the DC's Lanterns except with tech and not an "energy"? Talking about thought creating matter kind of thing.
Sign me up, I'm a lazy as f*ck genocidal alien dictator 👽
Sounds like some add from the future
Oh you forgot Shyamalan's Signs, where the aliens invade a planet wich has its surface mostly covered by water, where at any given day, rain is falling at some point, the atmosphere has a lot of water in suspension on it, where all life is water based, water is poisonous to them, and they come to the fight naked.
You spit or pee on them and you kill them. they beat you up. you bleed and you kill them. They don't even bring an umbrella. No. Completely naked.
Shouldn't exposure to the atmosphere also have killed them?
The're also unarmed, and can't get past a basic locked wooden door. One has to wonder what their plan was in the first place.
Those Aliens were the epithomy of _stupid aliens_. Why wasn't there a point where anyone kind of just said "Mr. Shyamalan, I think you should take a second look at the script right here". How can he make actors and other movie professionals go along with his films is what is trully dumbfounfding. This is his real call, to convince people to work and or give him money for him to produce turd after turd.
those are actually supposed to be demons, look it up. its pretty interrsting
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can you give me a link? This seems really interesting!
On your point about Sahara and Australia. Australia is actually a mass exporter of sand to the Middle East because the sand found there isn't very useful for construction. For that you need beach sand.
Wait, what? What's the point of having a huge desert if you can't even use the sand in it? That's just to show someone areas are just useless no matter how much you try to change it.
Want to be hysterically rich ? Invent a way to cheaply convert desert sand to construction sand and see the millions roll in.
+Ryan Zahrani
The grains of sand have the wrong shape. Wind-blown sand is awful construction material. Sand from the sea is much better.
See the episode from _Tom Scott_ called _The World Is Slowly Running Out Of Sand._
hedge: Interesting, did not know that.
That, or someone in Australia is one hell of a salesman.
Dang, now I have an idea for a crazy alien invasion idea. They want our art, to sell back home. And they believe the art will sell better if the creator of the art is dead, preferably in something tragic.
ROFL - okay, that actually works, certainly for a short story, maybe less so in reality.
Would really different economic structures go in the 'crazy aliens' folder? Cause a lot of the paradoxes seem to assume that a species acts in its long term interests, instead of as a collection of short term interests. Long term, it may make sense for the species to go into space, but it may not make economic sense for any group in the short term. I think you mentioned it in one of your videos, that the people building the spaceship are unlikely to profit from it, and any profit is likely to be deferred far beyond the usual investment timeframe. I haven't watched the transhumanism video yet, which I suppose would be the place to look for the impact of a radically changed lifespan on economic philosophies.
Isaac Arthur Dry wit and commentary are excellent.
And best of all, tragically dead young, under vaguely mysterious circumstances.
Nazca Lines creators more than dead now,all they are died with suffer and malice aforethought in the desert under sunlight without water-nobody still in aliens form not try to cut off one.
"Nuke it from orbit til it glows in the dark". I love the humour. It's great. Insight and conjecture always gets me wondering about what is out there.
I always found Arthur C Clark put a lot of thought into Alien motives in his Rama series, advanced beings cataloguing and studying intelligent lifeforms by way of a 50km long starship that goes around collecting and housing volunteer representatives of various infant space faring species.
"It's like people coming from the Sahara desert invading Australia to come and steal sand from their beaches" XD
Wow, that is definitely one of the best things I have ever heard! lol!
Funny you should say, Invading Australia to take it's sand. Most of the sand on the beaches in Hawaii come from Australia. The Kurnell peninsular south east of Sydney had some of the largest sand hills in the country. They were sold to the US.
"Smugness 4 in the Self-Righteousness Sector"
You secured yourself a sub, good sir!
I will never watch a movie again without analyzing it like this lol
Great content. Thought I'd be the nerd and clarify the Ender's Game statement. The Queens didn't think humans were individually intelligent but were hive minded like themselves. They assumed that killing humans in ships was merely their way of saying "hello, we're in the area - we don't intend to kill your queens (thinking humans were merely worker bees) as well, but we want to park on your planet... hope you don't mind". I think this in itself is illogical. Establishing a survey and communication line first would have made the most sense, but then the story would likely fall apart. Either way, the motive for war falters, but for a different reason than portrayed.
... now keep feeding us with great content, it's all quite inspiring. ;)
This was great, though I think there may have been one notable omission. Crop circles. We've recently deciphered the language behind the designs they leave in the corn. The message? "Surrender, Earthlings, or the potatoes are next."
Emma May ....those monsters.
Are you kidding? Crop circles have had plenty of explanation, from the perpetrators.
The aliens have ruined my backyard garden!!!
The buggers in Enders game didn’t think that we were too primitive to be intelligent, you just didn’t read the books. The buggers attacked s at first because they though the individual crew members, soldiers, and civilian humans were just drones, they had no idea they were murdering anyone, they thought of each human individual like a cog in a machine and therefore replaceable like the bigger drones were, they never killed any human queen so to them they never actually killed anyone at all. They found out later that humans were not lifeforms with a hive mind like the buggers were, and after they lost the first war they retreated to their home world never to attack again because they realized that they just murdered a huge number of innocent people for comparatively petty reasons. Most of the humans leading or military, and most civilians as well, feared that the buggers were going to attack again and that they were just amassing their fleet for a few years, and so, much like the buggers, we humans killed a crap ton of life forms only to find out later that it was all a misunderstanding, and that both sides had now committed genocide for reasons that were based on false information.
Fearghus Keitz
Good point. I think one of Isaac's big mistakes is to assume that people are rational.
meeg_2005 he is correct though.
Every human ever has been fundamentally logical. Not every human action is rational, but it will always have a consistent internal logic to the human who did the action.
David Stinnett
People will act rationally in pursuit of irrational designs. People are not usually motivated by logic. In the movie the Predator, the aliens come to earth on safari, just for fun. To hunt us..
People do what makes them feel good. And there's no reason to believe that aliens are any different
Or Isaac Arthur hasn't read the books since he was in the target demographic and forgot the details. Your analysis is otherwise valid, but tainted by needless hostility and condescension.
He did say it was retconned in a later book
I love this channel. I 'found' it very late, during the lockdowns in Amsterdam, Netherlands. I've been digging thru the various videos, it's all very very good.
"Technologically advanced but fundamentally stupid" ... Its not just aliens!
yeah, this first thing that poped into my head was humans when he said that.
So true
Qnaughts.
Where we go one we go all.
Our current major problem solved.
Something else's problems going to become much worse a few thousand years from now.
@@matthewgoodwin8093 mgtow.
I feel like a big reason to come to earth and do all those weird things that happen in Sci-fi movies, even doing what the invaders in Independence Day did, would be because of boredom. Some group of aliens got bored, decided to see if they could breed a fleet of organisms capable of invading a planet, but incompetent enough to get destroyed. I'm sure if you filmed it all and sent it back home to Comedy world in the Hollywood system, you could make a hefty chunk of money in movie ticket sales.
Plus you also have to consider that in an especially advanced civilization would have members of their society that could operate a space fleet but might not be especially smart, and end up actually doing incredibly dumb things. Like a ten yer old maxing out their parent's credit card on Angry Birds or whatever. Operating technology like an iPad and using complex features like micro transactions do certainly require intelligent members of your species, but even a caveman can be taught to max out a credit card on a video game.
Sure, you don't need to be a genius to operate a car or plane, but one would tend to bet a limited meritocracy will be in play in most tech-civs. The people making the decisions won't be idiots, not in the extreme sense anyway, jokes about congress aside they tend to be highly educated and usually rather sly. And sure they could breed a race of idiots for an invasion but they could also breed one to be invaded, or just run a simulation. Remember that once we assume there's one other race within proximity who can invade, we have to several others within a slightly larger zone, including those who could invade them. It's never them vs us in isolation, they always have to worry about what others are thinking about what they did.
Isaac Arthur
Wow, I didn't expect a reply, thanks.
And while I do agree that an advanced alien race would like to keep appearances up, in an especially powerful and advanced civilization, you might have ten year olds in charge of a fleet because something like a fleet of millions of dumb bred-to-order invaders and whatever tiny k-0 civilization they invade may just be so small and insignificant to them that a higher government is entirely indifferent to their fate. Sure their mom or dad or whatever they have as parents may be upset that they tried to destroy a planet, and also broadcasted the whole ordeal, whether intentional or not, to the rest of the galaxy, but when's the last time your parents got mad at you for burning an ant hill? A K-0 civilization to a hyper-advanced k-3 would be entirely insignificant.
Yes, while the majority of aliens in such a civilization would be rather smart and act responsibly and with dignity, there would probably be just as many, if not more, who are incredibly stupid as well. I also don't feel like this sort of situation would be entirely realistic or plausible. It's mostly just my way of explaining incredibly dumb aliens in Hollywood; just ignorant children trying to invade their first planet.
Anyways, thanks for the input, I always forget about how there's no hiding in space, among many other details of advanced societies, so it's always nice to hear from someone who is more familiar with the whole picture.
I usually manage to reply to most of the comments, though we keep the FB group for longer stuff :) I'm quite sure every civ will have its fair share of morons but its likely to be relative, odds are pretty good interstellar civs are mostly composed of immortals with tons of genetic or cybernetic enhancement in their brains. It's something we usually factor in to the big picture on this stuff but there's so many options to keep track of that, like the no-stealth-in-space thing, it is easy to forget it and leave it out of your assumptions.
Isaac Arthur
I've noticed, it's pretty impressive how active you are in the UA-cam comments with how many subscribers and commenters you have. Again, thanks for the input. I'll also have to check out that Facebook group.
If Aliens ever interact with us I think it more likely the Aliens would be in one of the following categories- criminals, political dissidents, religious zealots, thrill seekers and not official representatives of their civilizations - official representatives would only be here in a scientific research capacity with any interaction being accidental.
I would love to see a movie, where we witness an invasion on an alien planet, during most of the run time we can not see the actual attackers, but rather just their weapons. The invaders are of course humans, several tens of thousand years from now.
So these poor bastards are taking a beating, right. But then! It turns out that was just some offshoot bandit clan that was trying to dominate a younger civilisation for kicks, A police force of the actual humanity's core arrives and outright blaps these bastards out of the sky, apologises, leaves couple hundred terrabytes of useful science, and takes off.
kinda reminds me of really meh outer limits episode where some human space explorers landed on a planet to colonize, took out some humanoid aliens running around who had only clothes and some weird totem thinking they were just local primitive species they could just sweep under the rug if they were wiped out. It turned out that totem was a transmitter and those aliens were basically children on a camping trip and had called their father to pick them up. The human explorers got annihilated with lasers from his ship and then went on to Earth for continued vengeance.
Reminds me of the two last books of DUNE. When the Honored Matres return to the Old Galactic Empire from the Scattering, they arrive with fleets of no-ships with planetary destruction weapons and absolutely crush any old empire world. Their technology is absurdly advanced, and their behavior erratic. They are human invaders attacking human worlds, exactly like aliens would.
I wrote an unpublished short story where the 'Tran' (Terrans) invade a world with late 20th early 21'st century tech. The Tran are never seen, always fighting from orbit!
Our visitors are indeed bandits, we are the younger civilisation.
The police force exists, but the rules state that we be given the opportunity to fight back and claim our world by ourselves first.
Our primary resource is that this star is the only island in a sea of empty space with our planet being the most exotic choice of stopover. If we can control our value then we'll have real bargaining power early in our regional development.
Movie on Netflix called extinction if I remember the name correctly. Similar concept to what you describe.
Isaac, I recently found your videos and I love them and I love you. I also love the quirks of your speech as they make you stand out among the sea of generic UA-camrs doing try-hard announcer voices and British accents. Your content is interesting, your writing is thoughtful, and your voice is delightful. Thank you!
Today is the day for me!😂
(I mean, today I found his videos.)
why did it take me so long to find this Oasis of science in the Flat Earth desert of UA-cam. I thank you Mr. Arthur.
As a side note, I really like the story and reasoning of XCOM, because that story actually has a reason for the aliens to fight us on the ground and purposefully keep their more powerful units in the back until months into the war.
In Xcom the aliens fight on the ground even though they could just kill us all from orbit, and the main reason they use is because the humans reverse engineered their stuff to even the playing field, and the main reason they let that happen was because that was the whole point.
huh?
@@joeshmo8267 like the galactic life cycles in Mass Effect. It is more beneficial to shape other beings technological progress in ways that you understand. If allowed to their own devices they may create something that is capable of defeating your best. While this is highly unlikely it is still a potential issue. Plus if they are already on track to reproduce what you already know it is easier to thwart knowledge in certain areas, or pinpoint divergences in application and theory.
They just had a cross breeding fetish
I like your quick explanation of the letter R pronunciation... And then You move on like a boss. Good Form!
When I was a child, I put red ants and black ants near each other to see who will win. Alien kids can do the same thing with humans.
Luck Isn’t that the plot of Under the Dome?
Except ants are no alien to us.
So alien children are going to put us against red ants and black ants? Haha I fancy my chances then.
Reminder to self: keep magnifying glass in back pocket incase of alien child abduction. And if a sunny day this ant hasn't a chance. Those piss ants I will show them.
Me 2. Always the red. Pissed me off...black ants r slackers
@peace leader Exactly.👍🏾🧐
We are Pakleds. Our ship is the Mondor.
It is broken.
We are far from home. We need help.
We look for things. Things we need. Things that make us go.
We need help. We are far from home.
You seem innocent and trustworthy.
QUICK!! Activate crimson force field immediately. ..... wow: can't believe how quickly that level of Trek Trivia came to me: i may have more nerd genes than i thought!!
Gather ferrite and di-hydrogen to build metal panels and fix your ships launch thrusters
Haha one of my favorite episides
Lower Decks showed just how dangerous and underestimated scavengers like the Pakleds can be.
Smugness IV in the Selfrighteousness sector is on my bucket list for a summer holiday!
Eh, I hear the people are all jerks.
Book me a ticket 2,
I have to defend Babylon 5. The Minbari flashing their weapons was a pretty reasonable mistake.
Imagine you meet some weird alien creature and it suddenly tries to grab you. From that point of view shaking hands doesn't sound very sensible either yet im sure some human might make that mistake. What shaking hands actually signifies is that our hands are empty of weapons.
What the minbari were doing was showing off their weapons going "Look, here's our weapons. We got nothing to hide."
Same reason an old style sailing ship might fire it's cannons as it gets into harbor or leave. It's a celebration and a way to show that their cannons are now empty.
(Spoilers for Enders Game)
As for Enders Game the Buggers simply had no experience with non hivemind species. They thought the ships destroyed were filled with drones. Their usual way of alerting a fellow queen to their presence was to squish some of the drones so they'd take notice and then initiate contact. Unfortunately they couldn't do that because humans weren't telepathic hive minds.
Based on their psychology it makes sense.
Just to add in Babylon 5 during the first contact the leader of the Minbari yells at the crew the second he finds out they are approaching the earth ships with gun ports open, and is horrified the moment he hears this is happening.
I think its just that in a caste system based so much on tradition the crew was following protocals that weren't designed for first contact. But if they thought about it for even a second like their leader did they would realize it was idiotic.
I think the minbari first contact still falls under "stupid aliens." With jump capable ships as the b5 universe needs to ply the stars, it can be assumed the ability to use sensor systems is fairly ubiquitous - for that reason, opening your gun ports while approaching an unknown alien fleet, can only be read as a prelude to attack. Even without advanced sensors or competent radar ops that would make informed guesses at the weapons the aliens possessed. You could also make a projected guess at the overall power of reactors required to move the alien ship just going by estimated size/volume/weight/power necessary to open a warp rift for the ships given size, and give an estimate of what could also be shunted to weaponry while running everything at once. Next, the EA fleet did attempt to flee, but the minbari's opening scan damaged and rendered the human fleets warp drives inoperable. Which again, why spool up your military grade sensors to ping the new contacts in system, when passive readings would accomplish nearly the same unless attempting intimidation when you know your sensors blow out systems on the lower races ships? For a space faring race that had been cruising around for the preceding 1000 years or so to not have a dedicated first contact protocol is a bit stupid - if it were some small transport vessel crewed by red shirts hauling Domino's to the pizza sector, maybe, but not when it's your fleets largest ship, carrying your grand council, with your people's greatest leader. The EA fleet attacked first, yes, but to them they had already been attacked first by having their drives taken out, but I will admit that having an exploratory fleet fitting first on ships much fancier than your own is fairly idiotic as well.
i think the mimbari were supposed to be a stagnant species, they were far ahead of everyone besides the first ones, and saw themselves as guides and protectors of the younger races, the conceit that their way was the only right way was wholly ingrained in any membari who was not directly tasked with interacting with other species.
BAYLON 5 was crappola! All it was is race riots, genocide, genocide, genocide - after that it was conspiracies, or reliving WW2. In the end it was just derivative of STAR TREK but set in a dark dystopian future peopled with bad actors
HeliosFive
True enough. In my land A hand wave is friendly enough, until by a slight change in the hand's angle it becomes a warning of incoming violence.
Also, meeting the entities in the DMT realm is super interesting. Particularly the Mantid beings. They show up in abductions occasionally so I wonder why people see the same beings.
Evolutionary preserved neuro circuits.
Chemicals react in weird ways that can’t always be tested for when first thought about.
I’ve never broken through on DMT but I have experienced ego death, and I know how to know what nothing is without it being something in my head. I can imagine that nothing without it feeling like the nothing, and so on.
I couldn’t do that before, and I can’t not do it now. There is no test I can think of that can prove or disprove my hypothesis’ on why this is the case.
I think extra dimensional aliens may be more common than 3d ones
Earth calling Smugness 4, Come in smugness 4...
I have just laughed myself stupid! I found your series a few weeks ago and have spent probably 20 hours learning and confirming. Time well spent!
During WW2, one of the major factors in the US victory in the Pacific was our focus on damage control. The Japanese Bushido culture focused on combat almost exclusively. An activity like damage control was almost one lacking honor and therefore the Japanese military's damage control capabilities were near zero. When the US and Japan would trade punches, the US would be able to sustain far more damage and keep their ships. (Yorktown...) This has nothing to do with a superior intellect, just cultural priorities. It is easy to imagine a Independence Day alien culture which while highly intelligent had never encountered the concept of a computer virus and therefore has no defense against them. Weakness to a particular attack does not constitute stupidity, just the inability to know what you don't know and know how to counter it. Sun Tzu encouraged generals not only to know their enemies, but themselves. That latter one is often the hardest and what can lead to disaster in combat. History is littered with victims of cultural blinders, from the Alps being impassible (Hannibal) to Enigma being unbreakable (Germany). Neither of the victims of those blinders were stupid.
P.S. I love the channel, it is one of my few subscriptions.
I'd never heard that - thanks, it was interesting.
Good point - intelligence isn't one single linear thing. Intelligent Japanese naval planners (according to you...) de-emphasized damage control; maybe foolishly, in retrospect, but not exactly unintelligently.
The Americans also had an "all-or-nothing" armor scheme on their capital ships and cruisers, where critical systems had more armor and non-critical systems had less armor than other ships their size and displacement. So you could knock a U.S. ship out of action by disabling its steering or fire control, but you could shoot at it all day and not hit its magazines or boilers. This is exactly what happened to the USS _South Dakota_, which took 26 hits from two Japanese battleships and cruised back to base, albeit with her radar and comms completely disabled.
Excellent point, lack of experience of your opponents strength's and weakness does not constitute lack of intelligence.
PS Let's not take the writings of Sun Tzu as an infallible bible.
>"...the Japanese military's damage control capabilities were near zero."
wonderful pun!
geez dude, that was amazingly well stated. I think you need your own youtube channel as well.
i think the speech impediment makes you sound interesting, and makes listening not boring
I didn't enjoy the first episode I listened to, however, it didn't take long for me to find this one of the best series on you tube. I no longer notice the speech impediment and think Issac is great at covering these topics.
I agree. I think he sounds just fine to me. I didn't even notice it much until it was mentioned. I like it now if he had someone else read it wouldn't be the same. Like singers with unique voice's.
treekangaroo.: if this were his native planet, you may have something there. If it isn’t and he is a CO from elsewhere and knows a few thousand languages....
Eloquent as always, your ability to articulate never ceases to amaze. Thanks Isaac!!
Took me some 20 minutes to acclimate to it. Don't really notice it anymore now. It's really not that bad imo
I can't even count how many times I WATCHED this ep !!! One of the best!
I liked the old SNL skit where the aliens are much LESS advanced than humans. Threatening us with "The might of our muskets" (apparently they just found a spaceship)
For someone who’s had a speech impediment. I love your channel and I love the self-awareness. Your so awesome!!!!!
Dude! I love you, currently working on a sci fi project and you'r videos are so useful, thankyou 😊
Muup Muup she died
2 sad
How is the project? What is it
So your using him as an unpaid consultant for your work. :) lol
Good sir. I don't know if you meant this to be humorous or not but it was pure comic genius.
Best part: "I mean just look at us..." Shows image of warning sign stating not to touch other end of chainsaw. 😂
I always thought of the virus in Independence Day worked because the aliens thought humans were too stupid to do anything that could harm them. Humans think apes are too stupid to figure out how a lock works. What are aliens who travel across interstellar space in city sized ships going to think us?
Yes, maybe humanity had an advantage because the aliens had low expectations, but Earth is not the only planet that they had attacked and they were a militant race... So some sort of security should have prevented, isolated, or reduced the effect of the virus.
consider that most people don't need to know HOW a magnet works to know that it will stick stuff to the fridge. then assume that any large organisation (including alien) is going to have a certain percentage that do "minimal effort" and it quickly becomes obvious that there is always room for incompetence.I have worked for an international IT organisation where the actions of one individual and his badly written script completely reinstalled and overwrote 1200 servers and user data
Ray V Victory breeds arrogance. After exterminating so many other species and having no problems with it, they may have felt no need robust computer security. That's also not including the fact they may have thought our computer tech was incompatible with theirs.
The more I learn about the vastness of space, the more I'm starting to doubt any intelligent life form can travel thru space. Its sad a depressing to think about it. How we squander among each other over our existence on something the size of a needle head. This maybe the reason we have not seen aliens. Maybe robots who can live millions/billions of years can travel thur space.
was it java ?
How have you managed to continuously make such entertaining videos? Year after year. Great work!
7:40 I feel like thus far in the video you have looked at everything from a logical perspective, and ignored much of culture or alien ethics, which could be something like "If the almighty Universe wishes us to be the galactic overlords, it will let us win in a head-to-head battle against these primates. But if otherwise, the Universe will help them defeat us", or something like that. They might instead have some ethics or culture against growing food inside a lab and want all-natural consumables, perhaps for some purpose of avoiding any nasty chemicals that could severely harm their bodies.
This is what I was thinking. Culture and people don't always use logic. I mean look at how our world is now.
Yeah, That is one of the only scenarios that holds any water. It ain't much water, but the premise of the "Predator" movies is better than most imo.
I don't think your videos are that long. You could make hour long videos on each topic and I would listen to it all! You do a great job with each one.
One problem in trying to anticipate what aliens would be like is that we have little understanding of just how creative evolution can be. For instance, fish, cetaceans and ichthyosaurs are often cited as examples of convergent evolution coming up with similarly streamlined body plans to deal with the constraints of fast motion in water. But, all three of these creatures are vertebrates and can't depart too much from that initial vertebrate body plan. Adding a fourth creature to the roster, namely squids, shows that fast moving streamlined creatures don't have to look like fish, and that evolution has no real problem inventing very different solutions to the same problem. So I think that when we finally encounter aliens, not only will their physical appearances and modes of intelligence be shockingly different from what we would have expected, they will be shockingly different from what we COULD have expected.
Lobsters do kind of resemble fish, though.
I strongly agree. Alien life, and especially alien minds, are likely to be ALIEN. It's very hard to imagine anything much beyond rubber-headed english speaking bipedal Star Trek aliens. I mean, it's actually difficult. Especially the mental properties. Squids and starfish will likely seem much more familiar and nearer to "human" than ET will seem.
+DrIBeast lol, so you expect aliens to be reptiles and mammals, with hot or cold blood that dictates their mental capacity? I think it's just as likely they'll be Armenians as mammals.
Octopuses manage to have problem-solving intelligence without a backbone or a warm-blooded metabolism. Their brains are large, but they also have a somewhat decentralized nervous system that is distributed among their arms.
I like this audiobook called expeditionary force. I like the concept there. The higher civs hold class over the other with tech control. And higher species use lower species to fight as a means of preventing the higher species from using high tech universe wrecking weapons. Anyway love the videos your awesome.
How you pronounce „earth“ makes it more epic in a way.
definitely and Mars.... Maws...lol I love it. I now realize where the idea for Big Bang theory character comes from. Has to doesnt it?
Eawph lulz
00Billy I was thinking the same thing.
Eyeuth
I love your honesty at the beginning of the video and I also appreciate the close captions.
You voice is beautiful. And much appreciated over a mechanical voice. Thank you for your compassion and effort put into every one of your videos.
We have observed that your civilization has struggled with poverty and inequality. So, we bring you the tools that have successfully resolved these problems on our homeworld: fractional reserve banking and subprime mortgage lending. We trust that you will be intelligent enough to apply these tools correctly.
you win the prize for scariest thought in the comments.
Welcome to advance civilization brought to you by CAVED MAN mentality. Women need to be in charge equally with truth.
This is probably my favorite channel.
Why did you have to place "probably" there is beyond me. :)
I just enjoy hearing Isaac speak so much and the topics he talks about are so on the mark and make sense in every way. This channel is very thought-provoking. I subscribed to know when you upload new video topics. They make me think which I enjoy doing thank you, Isaac. Peace and be good to each other. :)
Yes its finally here! I bet this year we hit at least 100k.
The_Argus_ Plexus I'm just saying, when he hits 100k, I've been here since 1k
With the quality of the content shared on this channel it has to happen. This is still a rather small channel but it is growing steadily, and the more subscribers a channel has the more likely it is to show up in the recommended videos of new people.
+Isaac Arthur and team
Great stuff you are sharing, I love it!
Keep up the good work. :-)
a million next year?
7:44 never good when a youtuber and his audience understands the term "long-pig" without having to look it up.
My exact thought !
I thought that was common knowledge, think it's a pretty old term.
I'm pretty old and have never heard of it. Going to look it up now.
We're probably all just rimworld players
@@christophershumake2640
RE: "We're probably all just rimworld players"
I'm a Boomer and I've never heard of Rimworld, but I do know what long pig means.
0:15 they hadn't updated the antivirus software in a while, its a pain you see, gotta restart the whole ship, turn everything off, wait for that fucking bar to finish loading or to even move forward at all. You know, they probably clicked the "remind me later option" just like we do every day.
lol
For anything else, there's mastercard
Just wanted to tell you that I've just found your channel, am having LOTS of fun watching your videos, and have already subscribed. Your content is not only both entertaining and thought-provoking, it is also just so well done. Thanks a million!
Reasons to visit Earth 5) To observe and study us as they're curious. How's this not on there
It's a bit sad that "pyramid infinite creationist power" videos get 1.5 million views while those jewels hover around 10-20k
That's my fault - sorry! I watched that one over and over and over.
McGlow Wizard's First Rule: People are stupid.
Well don't feel bad. This one is over 183K and climbing.
McGlow the creationists may be right
And the creationists may be utterly and completely full of shit.
The Revelation Space series from alastair reynolds gives a good reason why a higher advanced Species could supress all interstellar lifeforms.
Spoiler: They want to keep the galactic dominance to have the ressources and unity to save all species from a galatic extinction event in the far future. If you have thousands of species in eternal conflict you do not get the unity you need to think "global". It is like our planet earth now, with all the different nations, not even able to prevent the climate catastrophe.
This is silly. Sun drives our climate, Sun.
Amazing video again. I have watched a lot lately and just now I found out about your speech inpediment. Now I understand the way you say "air". Now I know it's kind of charming. I love your work. Thanks for the AMAZING work Isaac. Hugs from Brazil. I love your voice on videos. Sounds like a professional narrator.
Humans: So, why do you want to blow up earth?
Aliens: 🤔
"Because you ask stupid questions."
Alien: Your 2020 was expanding throughout spacetime. Nothing personal.
@@shannonrhoads7099 "If blowing us up would have stopped the problem, we would have done it before you even got here."
Trying to build an interstellar highway and your planet is in the way.
Just gonna say, I don't find your speech impediment to detract from your video at all, I can understand you perfectly well.
16:30 UA-cam has corrupted me so much, that I was honestly expecting a VPN sponsorship at this point.
I know right
i feel you man, i have the same speech issue, it used to be so bad it was hard to understand me.
i ended up completely changing my vocabulary to avoid the dreaded R as much as possible, its much better nowadays.
seeing your channel has actually given me some confidence
Stupidity seems to be a universal constant, just look at humans.
"Oh wow, the entire city burned down because we built it right over a fault line, what should we do?"
"BUILD IT BIGGER!"
Yes but also, thats why they keep stupid humans away from space missions
Eh, that's just short-sightedness, which humans excel at even on the international scale. "We've just had a big quake, meaning the next one is not due for, like, another century or so. And this location is really convenient for strategic reasons/resources/proximity to water. Let my grandkids deal with that earthquake issue when it pops up again."
pmsl. love it
“You think there’s intelligent life out there?”
“I know there is?”
“How do you know that?”
“Well think about it. They had to put it SOMEWHERE!”
@@Newicked It's possible to design in earthquake tolerance in buildings. I tend to think hurricanes and tornadoes are worse than earthquakes.
1:03 A drink, a snack AND a joint.
Yes sir!
Vape pen lol...tech
No sorry I have to disagree here ......... Reality TV invites extermination, from the comfort of their alien armchairs!
But MTV is on cable.
Wouldn't the signal be all scrambled and incomprehensible?
***** I didn't know it could be unscrambled to begin with.
***** i wouldn't know.
They only have to change channels like the rest of us
I find your interesting and intelligent narration quite easily followed and the fact you have a small speech impediment is not even an afterthought in fact it makes your Hypothesis much more unique and charming . Brilliant.
Thank you! You would think theyd make smart sci-fi seeing how ‘nerds’ are reasonably sophisticated. This whole idea Thanos needed to thin the population is stupid, when resources are not limited when you have FTL ships! They could have had one of his guys ask ‘why don’t we just go to this sector and...’ Thanos kills him and no one else questions his authority because he’s insane!
Thanos' primary moniker is "The Mad Titan". Honestly, it made more sense in the comics, where he was killing to try and court the personification of Death, who preferred Deadpool as a lover.
Thanos could've done a thousand things and been hailed a universal hero, he chose his path cause he a f**king psychopath.
What's worse is that the directors clearly don't understand why he is wrong.
Moreover his measure would be better applied by handling out condoms anyways.
Oblivion was one of the most underrated science fiction films in recent memory. Sure the basic premise doesn’t make a lot of sense, but I was able to see past it as it wasn’t the focal point of the story. Alien AI took over earth and the main character is a slave-clone and struggles to figure out who he is and what the F happened. The reason why the AI took over is kind of an afterthought, IMO.
Lol yeah Oblivion, it's a case study. Great movie in terms of atmosphere and some interesting elements, like the the alien being an AI, but damn was the invasion reason stupid to anyone who knows a bit of astrophysics. Movies need to stop with resource-based invasions. Earth has nothing special and is unpractical to mine.
Wow my comment was loved, I'm flattered. As thanks, I would propose my services for subtitling your videos in French. I'm French. I can't guarantee regular work, but I would certainly have fun translating some of your wonderful videos.
I would be grateful, any video in another language is a good thing, even if I doubt we'd ever get them all done
Isaac Arthur Ok, I'll try on this one!
At first I was peeved at Oblivion for having such a dumb motivation for the aliens, but I think you could argue that collecting hydrogen wasn't their reason to be there, rather it was just a Von Neumann probe spreading and replicating throughout the galaxy, who's main purpose was to study and eliminate any other intelligent life that could either evolve to become a threat to it's creator's civilization in the future. So this particular one found Earth and setup shop to do it's job, gathering the hydrogen to fuel its work on Earth.
Regardless of the plot, I love the production design (you could even say product design) and visual fx of this film. The director came from an architecture and design background, so it really shines here.
Unless the ET's were from a world with similar atmosphere and surface gravity to our Earth.
I have watched a few of Isaac Arthur’s videos now, and maybe it’s just that this one is different or I haven’t seen enough of the others, but I busted out laughing multiple times with the humor and word choice that he used. Good job Isaac, you continue to impress, previously with your unparalleled persistence with logical reasoning in various scenarios, and now, with a sense of dry humor that seems nearly equal in magnitude.
Oh, by “Art” I was thinking oil paints and such. But they may look at a Saturn V the same way we look at a canoe, or an ICBM the way we look at a bow and arrow.
Sturn v is canoe, n ICBM is bow and arrow.
I'm having hard times imagining something more high-tech than teleportation and warp driver. What will ICBM equivalent technology for them will be👽?
What is high_tech then👽?
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That picture of Einstien and what he's saying there? Hilarious!
What if Humanity is one of the earliest (if not the earliest) civilizations in the universe, that would solve the Fermi paradox
It would violate the mediocracy principle if we were the first though;
On the other hand, when looking at it that way, we might not have been the first civilisation producing species on even this planet, complex life has been around on geological timescales, so the planet could have swallowed all traces of anything like that by now far from anywhere humans will ever look, particularly if they never got very technologically advanced, but even if they did.
Imo the great filter is probably just when you become capable of producing weapons of mass destruction.
Stands to reason that at any time after that there is an ever present non-zero probability your species will self annihilate.
no it wouldn't the mediocrity principle states "if an item is drawn at random from one of several
sets or categories, it's likelier to come from the most numerous
category than from any one of the less numerous categories"
it doesn't state that the the most common will be what is drawn. people too often conflate the idea of something being likely and it being guaranteed same with the idea of something being unlikely and it being impossible. same with the idea of something being the most likely of sevral outcomes and "more likely than not"
for instance while I was talking to someone who was playing a game I told them about an item they could get in the area they were in and while I was saying "the drop rate is one in 10 thousand so you probably won't get it" they got the drop and got it with its best enchantment possible which if it had happened at all would be @ best 1 in 1 million as they're are many enchants it could have been. the ods of this happening while I was telling them the ods of it happening are probably somewhere close to 1/3.6 billion this isn't even the least likely event I've seen its just the most recent. assuming you're average is a bullshit fallacy as MOST things are not average.
Perhaps "violate" is too strong a term, it would certainly fly in the face of odds if we were the first, although, someone has to be.
“Scientists have calculated that the chances of something so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one.
But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.”
― Terry Pratchett, Mort
We don't need to be the first in the universe to explain the Fermi Paradox in this way. The Milky Way galaxy itself has an age and so a galaxy older than ours might have a galactic civilization while a galaxy younger than ours might only have basic forms of life. Maybe we are the first of our neighbors, but I doubt it because we didn't emerge directly from abiogenesis, we had a 65 million year period where the planet was dominated by giant lizard-birds before we started up.
for some reason rare events always happen as if they're not that uncommon. its almost enough to wonder if the entire field of statistics is flawed somewhere in the original premise
Interesting term, "long-pig." I thought you had said "lawn-pig," which may seem more descriptive of humans in the context of a food source
Lawn-pig. Yes it does make more sense now, I love it. This word it shall now be, forever!
Long-pig is a common term for People meat..lol
Like comment above, long pig is old term for human meat
Or there's the Philip K. Dick interpretation of that.
After all, he wondered if his Crab Grass really was Crab Grass. Maybe one day it would take off it's disguise and show it's real self.
Primitive Tribal peoples that have been living on Papua New Guinea & Borneo Indonesia have been practising cannibalism for many centuries for reasons stemming from cultural customs as well as "religious" cosmology / superstitions embedded deeply in it. In their native language the name they have for human flesh and those from whom they acquire it translates into English as well as most Indo- European languages as "Long Pig". I. Arthur didn't just make it up nor did any fiction writer. Some education may be required to know this, as it is not a term commonly heard in most "western" contemporary cultures.
As a foot note/ epilogue - it has been documented and reported in several medical journals regarding one of the rarest diseases affecting humans being also that with the highest fatality rating at around 95+ % sometimes called "Laughing Sickness" cases almost if not completely confined to to those same people. It is caused by the practice of eating human brains. There are NO case reports of un-dead folk resulting from this, nor any of walking dead contracting this disease. Victims of the disease die and STAY dead - but not before they go completely barking, bug shit MAD. - I mean more so than they already must have been in the first place.
Those with a taste for human brains would certainly starve in the Divided States. Without calling on "Alien Stupidity" , but stupidity so explicit & extreme that it breaks down common credulity like wet toilet paper in a wood chipper. Huge tracts of the citizens, softened up by epi-pandemic stupidity - become drooling moron hosts for all manner of Logic Corrupting DATA infections...The internet, nature deprivation, and religious institutions, are the main vectors which form the degenerative decay factors that create the basis for actual mindless zombification. Hannibal Lecter is fiction invented by Thomas Harris to get rich. The Mosquito does not create the swamp.
Based on surviving a few decades on Earth, in my opinion one of the most dangerous situations might occur with aliens that either do not have a sense of humour and 'humility' [xenility?] or a sense of compassion and probably 'common sense'.
so, capitalist aliens ?
Great subject! Great Content! Netflix needs to give you a 12 part series. I know you could do better than the overproduced Cosmos remake.
Nowadays I'm used to his speech impediment, but at the beginning it was kind of disturbing, I only stuck because of the awesome content and gradually started understanding him ;)
So for broader audience, we'd need not only good CGI budget, but also a host who isn't Isaac... and I bet we wouldn't be happy with him/her! :)
So long as I got to pick the host or narrator I'd be happy, I actually don't enjoy reading the scripts an editing the audio, most boring part of making the episodes.
I highly recommend finding representation to lobby netflix on your behalf. This stuff is solid gold. Rub some star trek actor's voice on it and people will eat it up. Like a forward-looking version of Sir Kenneth Clark's Civilization series.
Isaac Arthur Actually, speaking of The Cosmos (which I enjoyed), it would be really cool to see what you and NdGT would come up with, given his extensive science knowledge, and your knack for making insights and connections that I haven't ever heard of. That's the main reason why I love your channel; not so much for new facts/ideas, many of which I've heard before (don't get me wrong, there are still a fair number I haven't), but the interesting ways they relate. Like the concept of Gardener ships, which takes a fairly mundane sci-fi topic like interstellar colonization, and adds the new twist of specific ships developing longstanding cultural traditions after settling many solar systems.
Kal hell yes
Why did I just discover this channel today ? There are so many video of you I want to watch !
Learned a few new things today, thank you
Now I'm feeling guilty for juggling those viral test tubes 😟
yeah now we all have to deal with that crap! I'd hope you feel bad! :p
You're 2 years earlier.
@@Joghurt2499 haha
The only raw materials I can think of that Earth may have and is unique would be related to life. For example, limestone, wood, coal, etc.
Excellent point--anything that is not alive or created by life can easily be found on lifeless worlds, and you don't have to exterminate or dominate the local life in order to get it. If you want water or minerals for example, the moons of the outer planets of our solar system have several times more of that than Earth does.
So, reasons for wanting to conquer Earth:
1: They want our crops/wildlife (i.e. anything organic that has nothing to do with Homo sapiens per se)
2: They want humans (as slaves or other form of subordinate, or to appropriate our culture or research) Robots would be cheaper economically than slaves for any work that does not require actual sapience, so slavery would probably be for ego or cultural reasons (i.e. they WANT us to serve them or their Gods, even if it's not the most economically profitable thing to do).
3: They don't want us becoming an interstellar annoyance to them, so they want to extinguish us first.
slave. We have sentient being here. That possibly is rare.
we might be their caviar
hypnocilicdreams
Just like our caviar is caviar and not some alien animal we havn't found yet, I expect their caviar to be an animal/food they already know well.
Caviar comes from the virgin sturgeon,
the virgin sturgeon is a very fine fish,
but the virgin sturgeon needs no urgin'
that's why caviar is a very rare dish.
What if their caviar was valued because of it's extreme rarity or difficulty to obtain, and it coincidentally has the exact same taste and texture as, oh, let's say human spinal cord?
I just discovered your Channel I listen to it as you as I go to sleep I had no idea you had a speech impediment but I love your content keep up the good work my brother
Re: 0:43
Being originally from Keene New Hampshire, I never notice your speech impediment at all. I just sounds normal to me, and somehow comforting(as I have now lived in Germany more than 30 years) to me🙂😉
Digging holes does not make a planet explode! Thanks I was worried ;)
Hey man good stuff. This is probably the first time I commented on something. Anyway if you haven't already, I'd like to invite you to read the Three Body Problem, Dark Forest, and Death's End by Cixin Liu. He's a hard science fiction writer and his way of addressing the Fermi Paradox made a lot of sense to me. His idea is something you haven't addressed in this video so it made me think you probably never read it yet. Do it. Those aliens in the book isn't stupid at all.
Felix Tay I second that. While I find don't entirely agree with the concept it's still very thought provoking and interesting
So, it's sounding like the general consistency is that the concept of alien invasions is most often made unrealistic through either: 1. The arrogance that Earth is a special planet when compared to others (assuming there is other intelligent life); and 2. The arrogance that humans would be smart and powerful enough to currently take down any reasonable alien threat that arrives to the planet.
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funnily enough, there actually is a giant black spot in space, out by NGC 1999
I just looked that up, interesting, it doesn't sound like a hungry intelligence, but we should probably keep an eye on it. about 1500 light years away if anyone is curious.
@@robertaylor9218 Huh. I just saw it. Perhaps we are witnessing the construction of a dyson sphere?
Matthew Brandt definitely not. But maybe thousands of them (we wouldn’t notice just one star). Of course I don’t think that area is rich in infrared, so probably no.
@@robertaylor9218 Thank you for the information. I say we may as well send a signal that way and hope for a response even if it most likely is nothing.
Matthew Brandt I’m a little more paranoid than Isaac, I prefer sending a signal from somewhere else. Of course that’s unlikely to be doable.
Finally caught up with this one...
😂 Classic! Isaac you've outdone yourself with this one :-D!
I think its dope that a dude with a speech impediment has millions of people listening to him talk about aliens. Talk about finding your voice lol. I really dig the contet! Lots of interesting topics, I'm gonna be busy for weeks watching them all. Props!
10:30 ".... back on our home world, Smugness 4 in the Self-righteousness sector..." hahaha laughed my butt off!
I love your speech, I think it makes sound like a genius, before I even knew your content.
I really liked that ufo model :)
Thanks, I used a basic mesh someone produced on Blendwap with a few tweaks. Took a few hours to render but I like it.
Isaac Arthur If you ever need help rendering things, I built a pretty nice computer for "work" (I'm a game developer, so it's technically true, but I get a lot of personal benefit from it too haha), and would be more than willing to donate some processing power. I'm more used to realtime rendering, but I used to do distributed rendering in 3ds Max back in the day, and it's probably easier than ever. I'm sure enough of us subscribers have capable rigs and technical know how for it to make rendering things easier on you. Either way though, another fantastic video, been looking forward to it all week :)
Thanks Mason, but its not too much a rendering time issue, for me it's actually the prepwork that mostly slows me down, I'm not very skilled at 3D animation.
Isaac Arthur Fair enough :) You do a pretty job at it though, and I've definitely noticed your skills improving, especially recently with the "Life in a Colony" series. I really enjoyed the background footage of the colony ships, because it wasn't necessary, but it shows some of the passion you have for your craft, and was a nice touch.
Thanks, I've been trying to improve them and I'm getting better but its obviously not a skill one masters overnight as you know :)
This episode is great! I love the picking apart of the sci-fi alien tropes!
22:57
"You might want to grab a snack."
bruh....