A Polynomial Equation With A Surprise At The End

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  • @agsantiago22
    @agsantiago22 6 місяців тому +3

    The c1 *i^x ... comes from solving the equation as a difference equation (the discrete version of a differential equation). The values of C1 and C2 are unknown because there are no initial conditions.

  • @armacham
    @armacham 6 місяців тому +1

    Take the derivative twice, you get p''(x) + p''(x-2) = 0
    if p''(x) = 0 always, then you have a linear equation
    what if it's not 0?
    then you have p''(x) = -p''(x-2)
    Can you think of any equations like that? Sine and cosine come to mind
    A sine wave with a period of 4 would fit right in
    p(x) = 3x + 5 + m*sin( pi*(x+a)/2 )
    m and a can be any real numbers.
    this will be true because m*sin(pi*(x+a)/2 ) + m*sin(pi*(x - 2 +a)/2 ) will always be equal to zero

  • @GreenMeansGOF
    @GreenMeansGOF 6 місяців тому +5

    Another way for P(x) and P(x+2) to be of the same form is if P(x)=Ae^(Bx). P(x)+P(x+2)=0 implies that B is an odd multiple if iπ/2 which gives the two independent solutions i^x and (-i)^x. As to how to derive these solutions without seeing the answer ahead of time, I do not know.

    • @pokemonjourneysfan5925
      @pokemonjourneysfan5925 6 місяців тому

      Well, you didn’t tell wolframalpha that P(x) is a polynomial, so it interprets it as a function, this then becomes a reccurence relation similar to diff equation.

    • @GreenMeansGOF
      @GreenMeansGOF 6 місяців тому

      @@pokemonjourneysfan5925 yeah. It’s a 0th order differential equation. It makes me wonder if there is a general theory around this.

  • @seanfraser3125
    @seanfraser3125 6 місяців тому +4

    Since P(x) + P(x-2) must be of the same degree as P, P is linear.
    Let P(x) = ax+b. Then ax+b + a(x-2)+b = 6x+4.
    Combining like terms we have 2ax + 2(b-a) = 6x+4. Clearly a=3. So 2(b-3)=4, and thus b=5.
    So P(x) = 3x+5

    • @d-8664
      @d-8664 6 місяців тому

      Why do you repeat the calculation?

    • @seanfraser3125
      @seanfraser3125 6 місяців тому

      @@d-8664 I like to do the problem myself in the comments when I can. Sometimes I use the same approach as SyberMath, sometimes I use a different one.

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 6 місяців тому +2

    3x+5

  • @mcwulf25
    @mcwulf25 6 місяців тому +1

    The complex part is mad. It works, because we can show that
    i^x + i^(x-2) = i^(x-1)(i + 1/i) = 0
    Same with the powers of (-i).
    Mad because how did Wolfram "think" to put those in in the first place?

  • @dugong369
    @dugong369 6 місяців тому +1

    Can we add on c3*sin(πx/2) + c4*cos(πx/2)? To Wolfram Alpha's answer?

  • @JohnSmith-mz7dh
    @JohnSmith-mz7dh 6 місяців тому

    We can also differentiate twice. We get p’’(x)+p’’(x+2)=0. Ok, the only polynomial which obeys this rule is p’’(x)=0.
    This is since these two polynomials add up to another polynomial P(x) which is equal to zero. This means that all coefficients must cancel out for p’’(x) and p’’(x+2) (which cannot possible happened unless all the coefficients are zero.)
    We therefore know that p(x) is a linear polynomial (integrate once we get p’(x)=c, and twice we get p(x)=cx+d. p(x)+p(x-2)=2cx-2c+2d=6x+4. So c=3 (to cancel the x terms) and therefore 2d=4+2c=10, so d=5.
    p(x)=3x+5

  • @scottleung9587
    @scottleung9587 6 місяців тому

    I also got P(x)=3x+5 as the answer.

  • @kianmath71
    @kianmath71 6 місяців тому

    P(x) = 3x + 5

  • @honestadministrator
    @honestadministrator 6 місяців тому

    Here in P ( x) = a x + b
    a x + b + a ( x -2) + b = 6 x +4
    a = 3 , 2 b - 6 = 4 i. e. b = 5

  • @rob876
    @rob876 6 місяців тому +1

    Add solution to P(x) + P(x+2) = 0
    let P(x) = cr^x
    then cr^x + cr^(x+2) = 0
    1 + r^2 = 0
    r = ±i
    P(x) = C1(i)^x + C2(-i)^x

  • @user-gu6dc7yu1m
    @user-gu6dc7yu1m 6 місяців тому +1

    3x+5+c1(-i)^x+c2 i^x