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    Earl Weaver was a hothead, known for his Earl Weaver ejections, but his Earl Weaver Orioles were the best team in baseball for a decade. He used Earl Weaver strategy that emphasized the same things as the Oakland As Billy Beane. GM Billy Beane became famous for Michael Lewis Moneyball As, which was based on, among other things, the teachings of Bill James. He should also be flattered to be played by the star of Moneyball Brad Pitt. Earl Weaver also played Moneyball with the Baltimore Orioles, even winning a Baltimore Orioles World Series 1970.
    Some key Moneyball players included Don Buford, Paul Blair, Brooks Robison, and Mark Belanger on the Orioles, as well as Scott Hatteberg (played by Chris Pratt in the Moneyball movie) on the Oakland Athletics.
    In this episode of Baseball Bits, a Foolish Baseball production, I analyze some baseball strategy, getting on base, a nod to the Moneyball he gets on base scene, and MLB managers. I hope you all enjoy the video!
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    Moneyball Book: www.amazon.com...
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    Weaver SABR: sabr.org/biopr...
    Weaver on Strategy: www.amazon.com...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 832

  • @FoolishBaseball
    @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +98

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    • @gingerface1898
      @gingerface1898 4 роки тому +3

      How long is this valid for?

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +8

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    • @JT_WARCRIME
      @JT_WARCRIME 4 роки тому +1

      My family owned a Tandy 1000HX back in the late 80's and along with it, my dad bought "Earl Weaver's Baseball", A very detailed sports sim with a MLBPA license. It was made by EA and Earl had first-hand input into it. It's very detail-oriented and they even sold roster updates for a few years after it came out. You should look into it. It'll probably give you a even better look inside how he thought.

    • @itsean34lfgm81
      @itsean34lfgm81 4 роки тому

      Foolish Baseball do a video on the 1969 Mets

    • @tumtumtakesover3544
      @tumtumtakesover3544 4 роки тому +1

      Ok

  • @lolm2corybaxter326
    @lolm2corybaxter326 4 роки тому +1807

    My favorite Earl Weaver fact is that even though he was third all time in managerial ejections, if you added the amount of times he was ejected before the game even started to his total then he's first all time.

    • @brianeleighton
      @brianeleighton 4 роки тому +307

      Or that he had such a contentious relationship with one umpire, Ron Lucciano, that the league had to pull him from the crew whenever they worked a Baltimore series. Weaver and him had worked every level up to the majors together and they hated each other. One would get promoted a level, and the next season or so the other would get promoted to that level lol
      Edit: I should add that Ron has at least one of Earl's pregame ejections. Apparently, he was working a doubleheader and in the first game he made a close call at his base that caused Earl to get tossed. In the second game, he was the home plate umpire. When the managers came out to exchange lineup cards, Earl asked him, "Are you going to suck as bad in this game as last game?" To which Ron replied, "Earl, you're not going to be around to find out" and tossed him lmao

    • @jjasper123
      @jjasper123 4 роки тому +12

      Oh my gosh this is the best

    • @RobbyGAMEZ
      @RobbyGAMEZ 4 роки тому +52

      @@brianeleighton Thats the funniest goddamn thin I've ever heard in all of baseball history. God literally only this sport can have a story like that

    • @RobbyGAMEZ
      @RobbyGAMEZ 4 роки тому +22

      @MANCHESTER UNITED Yeah soccer is good, but I really like baseball. I grew up playing baseball and a lot of my heroes and role models growing up were baseball players. That's the impact of the sport on me and most other fans of the sport. I don't think the general popularity of a sport is of much subjective merit. Soccer is much less culturally important where I'm from as opposed to baseball, and I just personally think baseball is a much more interesting game

    • @danballe
      @danballe 4 роки тому +5

      @@brianeleighton THis just made my night! Thanks dude

  • @hahahatall09
    @hahahatall09 4 роки тому +1021

    "On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +191

      legend

    • @galactic_clashx4056
      @galactic_clashx4056 4 роки тому +1

      ?

    • @yeminadiv
      @yeminadiv 4 роки тому +1

      A bit harsh

    • @galactic_clashx4056
      @galactic_clashx4056 4 роки тому +1

      So that’s why he won a World Series???

    • @justinharris2272
      @justinharris2272 4 роки тому +35

      Yall are kinda dull. The man was trying to say he hated losing and would do everything to avoid that. I understand it because i too am a very sore loser and i love that quote.

  • @zacharybinx8642
    @zacharybinx8642 4 роки тому +692

    I saw an interview with Earl Weaver, he was asked what he thought about the umpires of his era. "They got thousands of calls right, it was the 94 times that I was ejected that they were wrong." 😂

    • @bilyg5689
      @bilyg5689 3 роки тому +33

      He said that in his HOF speech

  • @Starobrno59
    @Starobrno59 4 роки тому +243

    "Binging with BABIP." Legendary.

  • @SetTheEdge
    @SetTheEdge 4 роки тому +877

    Long time listener of the podcast, I had no idea you had a UA-cam channel! You've got a talent for this video stuff.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +231

      Thanks, it's a welcome distraction from the grueling podcast process.

    • @raishauntanner4206
      @raishauntanner4206 4 роки тому +19

      I understood that reference

    • @gingerface1898
      @gingerface1898 4 роки тому +29

      Wait, he’s got a podcast?!

    • @Camdenj56
      @Camdenj56 4 роки тому +15

      @@gingerface1898 Yeah, new episodes every day

    • @gingerface1898
      @gingerface1898 4 роки тому +3

      CamJ56 What’s it called?! Where can I find it??

  • @gabesachse5391
    @gabesachse5391 4 роки тому +277

    me: *sad lack of baseball noises*
    foolish baseball: posts
    me: *a bit happier lack of baseball noises*

    • @gabesachse5391
      @gabesachse5391 4 роки тому +11

      @MANCHESTER UNITED well we have substantial seductive and you just have SUCC

    • @jgod1341
      @jgod1341 4 роки тому +6

      A sport where people flop isn’t very powerful

  • @davidhall4074
    @davidhall4074 4 роки тому +144

    Excellent work. You should have contacted my father, who played on that team (Dick Hall).Weaver would talk with some of the role players (like my father) and explain to them their roles early in the season - then stick with it. For example -with my Dad, Weaver told him he would be the #1 choice in the 7th inning if the starter got in trouble, or in extra innings (my Dad was good hitter). As a result, if a situation for a reliever came up, and it wasn't the 7th - then my dad would just be relaxed and calm and not have to worry about going in. But if my Dad could see the starter struggling when it was his role - he would then begin to prepare mentally as well as be physically ready when he was called on. He did this with other relievers, pinch hitters, etc..to as you pointed out - to great success! Thank you for the video - calling my Dad to watch it right now!Also side note - Curt Motton pronounced Moat-en. Pete Richert = Rick-ertThanks again! David Hall

    • @christophermosley4577
      @christophermosley4577 4 роки тому +8

      Great info

    • @gregoryboyer4846
      @gregoryboyer4846 4 роки тому +16

      i remember Dick Hall! had this, as one announcer called it, a "herky jerky" delivery that was distracting to some. i had his baseball card! played into his 40's

    • @afuzzycreature8387
      @afuzzycreature8387 4 роки тому

      the mental part of the game or any game never goes away... the quants have always had a difficult time in isolating this because... well, its hard and people will say that it does everything and anything. The quants get it right when they find unexploited patterns. Psychology helps in the micro... setting a guy's mind. Its interesting to see it play out and those who can dance with the two... usually the head coach or general manager or combination therein can do wonders.

    • @Donald38
      @Donald38 4 роки тому

      And then everyone clapped

    • @thomaswolf723
      @thomaswolf723 4 роки тому +6

      Your father had great control. He only walked 1.7 batters per 9 innings pitched.

  • @BrianKapellusch
    @BrianKapellusch 4 роки тому +263

    Omg finally. I was waiting for an Earl Weaver episode.
    His manager IQ was decades before his time.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +44

      This was a really fun episode to make! Earl is baseball royalty!

    • @CSDonohue11
      @CSDonohue11 4 роки тому +2

      Earl Weaver & Sparky Anderson

    • @justinharris2272
      @justinharris2272 4 роки тому +1

      I hate the Orioles but i respect and admire the heck out of Earl Weaver.
      Absolute legend

    • @KTF0
      @KTF0 4 роки тому +6

      I remember Weaver saying he doesn't give a f*ck about stolen bases, just give me a f*cker that hits it over the fence. Now the analytics say that exact same thing.

    • @justinharris2272
      @justinharris2272 4 роки тому

      @@KTF0 way ahead of his time

  • @drgonzo767
    @drgonzo767 4 роки тому +33

    Weaver was well known for keeping all sorts of statistics, notebooks full of them. Head to heads, splits, all sorts of breakdowns. He was a genius and ahead of his time. He was the first manager to use a computer to compile statistics.

  • @BrightHornet936
    @BrightHornet936 4 роки тому +131

    Don Buford never had 100 runs in a season but had 99 for 3 straight seasons lol

    • @Ian00003
      @Ian00003 2 роки тому +1

      Khris Davis would be proud

  • @justrob4139
    @justrob4139 4 роки тому +419

    "Earl Weaver was as temperamental as they come"
    *understatement*

  • @DThomas4Christ
    @DThomas4Christ 4 роки тому +64

    Jim Palmer's most impressive pitching came with the bases loaded: 184 at bats, zero grand slams allowed, and only one triple and five doubles. His OBP allowed with the bases loaded was .230 and the slugging percentage was .234. A .464 OPS with the bases jacked is almost too low to be believed!

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel 4 роки тому +14

      Please read Palmer's book "Together we were 11 feet 9." In the book he tells a story about late in his career the bases were loaded and he threw a wild pitch advancing the runners...he was teased he did it on purpose to protect his no grand slam legacy!

    • @markkaminski2416
      @markkaminski2416 2 роки тому +3

      Palmer finished his career with I believe 257Wins of that 214 were complete games how would that fit in today's MLB?

  • @aqgpandemic5406
    @aqgpandemic5406 4 роки тому +95

    Finally some recognition for one of the greatest managers of all time. Also go O’s!

    • @samdeabler9979
      @samdeabler9979 4 роки тому +5

      Butch Jones royals fan here. Right there with you on that lol

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +10

      Yup, Art Howe!

    • @davidmaschino3359
      @davidmaschino3359 4 роки тому

      Mariners fan here. I feel the pains.

    • @padraig5335
      @padraig5335 4 роки тому

      @@samdeabler9979 Royals fan here too. I agree

  • @jakethompson72
    @jakethompson72 4 роки тому +179

    One of my favorite players in 1970’s was Mark Belanger. Sure, his offensive line is atrocious, but that man could play defense. His OPB was higher than his SLG too, which makes me laugh 😂

    • @tz233
      @tz233 4 роки тому +6

      Only thing better than a new Foolish Baseball vid would be one of Belanger's greatest defensive plays.

    • @kenarthur6253
      @kenarthur6253 4 роки тому +2

      The other amazing thing about Belanger is, that despite his poor hitting average, he was a beast against the Red Sox. He hit them very well for some reason.

    • @tommyfu9271
      @tommyfu9271 4 роки тому +1

      @@kenarthur6253 no he wasn't. .641 ops against them. also for some idiotic reason he hit 1st or 2nd over 500 times in his career. hilarious.

    • @mynameisgladiator1933
      @mynameisgladiator1933 4 роки тому

      @@tommyfu9271 You missed the part about his high OBP?

    • @tommyfu9271
      @tommyfu9271 4 роки тому +2

      @@mynameisgladiator1933 what high obp?
      He had 2 years where it was good and that's it
      He was a terrible hitter and should have been hitting 8th or 9th
      Career .300 obp=high obp?
      If you're referring to against Boston specially
      .309 obp
      .641 ops
      Horrible

  • @vetoland92
    @vetoland92 4 роки тому +200

    I need to sanitize my eyes after seeing Horace Clarke's OBP

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +73

      Wash your hands too while you're at it!

    • @vetoland92
      @vetoland92 4 роки тому +16

      Foolish Baseball of course. I ain’t foolish 😏

    • @tz233
      @tz233 4 роки тому +5

      What do you expect? Look at his baseball card...he's got his hands backwards!

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 4 роки тому +3

      Little wonder why the Yankees in the CBS era were jokes for the most part.

    • @christophermosley4577
      @christophermosley4577 4 роки тому +8

      If you can't get on base at least 1/3 of the time I can't have you on my team

  • @Durgen213
    @Durgen213 4 роки тому +40

    In the dark days of no baseball, a light appears in the distance. "Notification: New Video from Foolish Baseball."

  • @petethedutch
    @petethedutch 4 роки тому +91

    1. Tim Locastro would be Earl Weaver's nemesis.
    2. My favorite Weaver story was how when he was a manager in the Orioles farm system, he used to stand behind Steve Dalkowski during practice and talk down his anxieties, resulting in him having better control of his alleged 110 mph fastball. The man was saving lives! Too bad Dalkowski blew his elbow during his first spring training as a roster member of the Orioles, though.

    • @edalder2000
      @edalder2000 4 роки тому +19

      There's a book called "Fastball" by Tim Wendel. Dalkowski got a chapter in that book. Anyway, when Earl Weaver became minor league manager for Dalkowski's team, Weaver gave each player an IQ test. Dalkowski had a slighly below average IQ. So, instead of being super technical, Earl simplified instruction for Dalkowsi instead of overloading him with information. Every other coach before Weaver had done that.
      Dalkowski only threw a fastball and a curve under Earl's management. Dalkowski said that he loved when Earl would whistle because that was the signal for Dalkowski to let the fastball just RIP.
      The sad part about Dalkowski blowing out his elbow was that he was set to break camp with The Orioles and be in the majors.
      Ron Shelton made it to AAA with The Orioles and played with Dalkowski. He was a basis for Nuke LaLoosh in "Bull Durham."

    • @petethedutch
      @petethedutch 4 роки тому +2

      @@edalder2000 I got the Dalkowski story partly from an Olbermann segment where he discussed him and the documentary version of Fastball! It even showed the man himself describing how he applied extra rotation to the ball at the release point.

    • @thegenericgaijin
      @thegenericgaijin 4 роки тому +2

      My favorite story was when I heard when Ken Singleton was on the R2C2 podcast and he said that apparently Weaver says that even though the stats say he got ejected 94 times, it should be more because he was ejected something like 6 times just exchanging lineup cards!

    • @zkiiffs9
      @zkiiffs9 4 роки тому

      @@edalder2000 He also told Dalkowski to just aim everything down the middle, because he'd be more likely to accidentally paint a corner than if he was actually aiming for it.

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 4 роки тому

      Thomas Boswell also talked about Earl Weaver knew how to settle Jim Palmer down and always knew how to keep him focused. Boswell said, "If Jim Palmer hadn't pitched for Earl Weaver, he wouldn't have won 50 games in his career."

  • @Blackmallowtube
    @Blackmallowtube 4 роки тому +41

    8:33 Jim Palmer still has the most beautiful windup and delivery in baseball history.

    • @gregoryboyer4846
      @gregoryboyer4846 4 роки тому +2

      like butter

    • @kirkprospector4958
      @kirkprospector4958 4 роки тому

      The way his knee comes up is so incredibly smooth. Looks like he's never off balance for even a fraction of a second.

    • @17Helton
      @17Helton 4 роки тому +2

      Never gave up a Grand Slam either. 4,072 Innings pitched (Inc post season) without allowing a Grand Slam. He's proud of that stat too.

    • @17Helton
      @17Helton 4 роки тому +2

      Love those Orange unis too!

    • @lloydclaussen9132
      @lloydclaussen9132 3 роки тому

      Denny McLain

  • @NickPoeschek
    @NickPoeschek 4 роки тому +5

    Did anyone else here play the Earl Weaver Baseball video game? As I remember, it came with a manual that briefly outlined a lot of his management philosophies. I loved that game.

  • @nate_kang
    @nate_kang 4 роки тому +26

    Yes finally an Earl Weaver vid!!!
    IMHO his 1970 O's squad is actually pretty underrated and should be considered as a contender for best team of all-time, right up there w/ the '27 Yankees, the Big Red Machine, '39 Yankees, and c. 1906-10 Cubs.

    • @mdoerty13
      @mdoerty13 4 роки тому +2

      Nate KANG I remember reading the Baseball 1971 preview. The Orioles biggest need - a new supply of champagne. That three year run was fantastic. Too bad it resulted in only one World Series. But if you ask me, Weaver did even better work keeping the Orioles competitive after players started getting older or leaving for free agency. (Of course the Rochester Class of 1976 helped. )

    • @gregoryboyer4846
      @gregoryboyer4846 4 роки тому

      @@mdoerty13 if you include the arrival of Frank Robinson in '66 (which resulted in a WS sweep of the dodgers), that's 4 AL pennants and 2 WS banners

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel 4 роки тому +2

      You rock! That 1906 Cubs team was an all-timer....but then they lost the World Series! I am still bummed about it!

    • @ronaldcammarata3422
      @ronaldcammarata3422 4 роки тому

      @@gregoryboyer4846 And even in '73 and '74, the Orioles had the best record in the American League. If it still had been the pre-division AL, that would have been 2 more WS.

  • @miketrn16
    @miketrn16 4 роки тому +8

    That crow hop on the ejection, though. One of my favorite moments in baseball history.

  • @renatolopez6099
    @renatolopez6099 4 роки тому +13

    Best baseball channel in Earth! Kudos from a Salvi living in Argentina FB!

  • @dingers5days
    @dingers5days 4 роки тому +32

    Love me some vintage Baseball Bits. I'd suggest an episode on platooning and whether it's actually valuable.
    Edit: Looks like you covered platooning a bit! Maybe a full episode...?

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +11

      I could look in to it.

    • @MetFanMac
      @MetFanMac 4 роки тому +3

      Chiming in to note the '69 Mets were big on platooning as well. Only four players played in 120+ games, with seven others at 100+ and four more at 60+. They had a grand total of four players with over 2.5 bWAR, two of whom were pitchers.

    • @claytoncourtney1309
      @claytoncourtney1309 3 роки тому +1

      I am at the Garvey comparison to the Lowenstein/Roenicke platoon. There is a problem.
      Foolish Baseball gave the totals for Lowenstein and Roenicke and implied that platoon was season long. If you look at baseball reference they combined for only 461 of the Orioles 655 plate appearances from the Left Field position. In fact the players that provided the other 194 plate appearance were better than those two.

    • @joeski734
      @joeski734 3 роки тому

      Earl could fill his bench with platoon players and pinch hitters like Terry Crowley because teams carried fewer pitchers. These players definitely made the game more fun to watch. They should expand MLB rosters and limit the number of pitchers you can carry.

  • @MoGhotbi
    @MoGhotbi 4 роки тому +2

    I grew up in Baltimore and fell in love with baseball watching Weaver's teams. What a time to be an Orioles fan.

  • @Jeterfan906
    @Jeterfan906 4 роки тому +16

    I’d love it if you did a video about Marcus Semien’s defensive transformation

  • @janetracer
    @janetracer 4 роки тому +2

    Having grown up in Chicago I was so jealous of the Weaver Orioles. Every September 1 when the newspapers started the magic number countdown for the playoffs both the Cubs and White Sox were nowhere to be found. But Baltimore...wow... may not have ended up in the playoffs, but every year but they were in the mix right up to the end.

    • @coachjerry59
      @coachjerry59 4 роки тому +1

      janetracer The 1970 Cubs were arguably more talented than the Orioles or the Big Red Machine. Bullpen being the only weakness, they underachieved with just 84 wins. Speaking as an Orioles fan.

  • @VenomousStare
    @VenomousStare 4 роки тому +13

    8:24 FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT! God bless you FB

    • @chicagoakland
      @chicagoakland 4 роки тому +1

      I'm an A's fan, and even I'M tired of people ignoring that.

    • @VenomousStare
      @VenomousStare 4 роки тому +1

      @@chicagoakland moneyball never mentions them and 25% of the book is sucking off Scott Hatiburg

  • @BillMorganChannel
    @BillMorganChannel 4 роки тому +5

    I was so happy to see you recognize the great Jack Glasscock at 7:05! He was the best fielding shortstop in the 19th century, the first native of West Virginia to play pro ball and struck out only once per 33 at bats! How is Glasscock not in the Hall of Fame?

  • @jordancummings4639
    @jordancummings4639 4 роки тому +1

    6:08 "Binging with BABIP"
    LEGENDARY. The crossover I never knew I needed.

  • @blues.baseball.badanxiety
    @blues.baseball.badanxiety 4 роки тому +11

    Here are some ideas for merch: bob wickman calender (with one bartolo colon), Larry walker HOF shirts, Tim locastro wanted posters, Andrelton Simmons HOF plaques, jeff Mathis framing gloves, and more! Just an idea lol

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +6

      These are great, but I'm pretty sure I have to get a deal with the MLBPA to sell that kind of thing. Can't just profit off someone's likeness.

    • @blues.baseball.badanxiety
      @blues.baseball.badanxiety 4 роки тому +3

      Foolish Baseball good point, always have to think about that. Then again, the mlb is pretty friendly with you

    • @MicBur17
      @MicBur17 4 роки тому +1

      Foolish Baseball I say you should try to get permission to sell. They prolly wouldn’t respond sadly but it’s worth a shot. I mean you are bringing to people to baseball.

    • @blues.baseball.badanxiety
      @blues.baseball.badanxiety 4 роки тому

      Beast Burchett very much agreed

    • @danballe
      @danballe 4 роки тому

      @@MicBur17 What this guy said , goes

  • @neugey
    @neugey 4 роки тому +13

    Brooks Robinson was such a stud on defense. His tradition lives on ... Rendon seemed to save a lot of runs for the Nats last year. Oh and by the way, my kids just call them the Oreos 😄

  • @brookamos5787
    @brookamos5787 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Foolish Baseball for posting this. Few people realize how dominant the Orioles were throughout Weaver's tenure. During that long run of his the team always came in first or second in their division. Beyond that they only placed third once in 1972 and once in fourth in 1978. I'm also glad you acknowledged your pronunciation issue. Two other notable cases were with Curt Motton, which is pronounced like moe not mah, and Pete Richert, pronounced like Rick not Rich. Other than that, great job!

  • @hardyworld
    @hardyworld 4 роки тому +2

    ECSTATIC to see Foolish Baseball give Mark Belanger some much deserved respect for his defensive prowess (which was sadly missed in his A. Simmons video).

  • @paulwblair
    @paulwblair 4 роки тому +1

    Earl Weaver Baseball was one of the great early sports games. Among many firsts, it was the first ever PC game to allow you to simulate an entire season. It was, in essence, the first of countless "moneyball simulators".

    • @paulwblair
      @paulwblair 4 роки тому

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Weaver_Baseball#Innovations

  • @dfens1987
    @dfens1987 4 роки тому +1

    Bill James uncovered the math behind the game. There was another book about the game, forgot the title, that came out in the 70's and expressed a moneyball type idea. Ball Four comes to mind, but its been a long time since I read the book.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +1

      You're right, but Bill James Abstract came out in 1977. This Orioles team won it all in 1970, so Weaver's strategy even predates Bill James.

    • @dfens1987
      @dfens1987 4 роки тому

      @@FoolishBaseball I know, but I remember reading a book, in the library, when I was a kid about the math of baseball. My mind tells me ball four, but I think it was next to ball four. It dealt with the math of the game and has some stuff in it like that. This was back in the 70's. I really wish I could remember the name of the book. I would totally get it off amazon.

  • @MarkCzmic420
    @MarkCzmic420 Місяць тому

    Awesome video brings back memories of going to Orioles games at memorial stadium in the early 80's as a kid. Earl is still my favorite manager...

  • @betsywhitaker1805
    @betsywhitaker1805 4 роки тому +1

    Nice piece, FB. Weaver was one of a kind, and did tolerate other oddballs. Don Stanhouse, the closer for the '79 Orioles, about killed all of us with his high-wire act. Thanks for this. PS: just say "O's" if Orioles is a challenge

  • @spicytso21
    @spicytso21 4 роки тому +4

    I absolutely love your videos, and the awareness some of them have brought to the general public about criminally dismissed players. Would you ever consider making one about how unreal Stan Musial was? Or a look at some amazing Cardinal legends throughout the history of the organization? You would absolutely kill it

  • @aaronchun3458
    @aaronchun3458 4 роки тому +2

    These videos are just as good as your podcast, Mr. Foolish Baseball

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +1

      I really consider Baseball Bits to be a "video podcast."

  • @bobapep20
    @bobapep20 4 роки тому +1

    93 Phillies did same platoon thing with their corner outfielders. Milt Thompson and Pete Incavelia in left field and Jim Eisenreich and Wes Chamberlin in right field.

  • @AzureRaven2
    @AzureRaven2 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this! Memories of past seasons are all we O's fans have right now. Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go watch the video about the '89 orioles again and cry a bit.

  • @kingdaccin9828
    @kingdaccin9828 4 роки тому +3

    My dad expressed the deepest heartbreak and disappointment at the fact that you are a Braves fan.
    He will, however, continue to happily support your channel. 😁

  • @jackmiller-johnston8689
    @jackmiller-johnston8689 3 роки тому +3

    "Your most precious possession on offence is your 27 outs." So obvious, I'm writing that down for every OOTP save from now on

  • @mattykarr
    @mattykarr 4 роки тому

    Earl Weaver is my spirit animal. If I have a bad day, I just go to youtube and type on earl Weaver argument. Boom it's a better day. Thank you for this video!

  • @zacharyellis2994
    @zacharyellis2994 4 роки тому +4

    5:27
    Foolish: "That OBP, nice".
    Myself: Nice, indeed.

  • @ellyellell
    @ellyellell 4 роки тому +5

    Can we get a video about how underrated Carl Yazstremski was?

  • @jamesnigh4652
    @jamesnigh4652 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for making a positive video about the Orioles us fans need it lol. Love the shot at Buck too. 😂😂😂

  • @raishauntanner4206
    @raishauntanner4206 4 роки тому +5

    The best days are when Foolish BB uploads!

  • @hypetrained
    @hypetrained 4 роки тому +1

    Zito, Hudson, and Mulder were mentioned in the Moneyball book. Zito was pretty overlooked by most teams until he started dominating the majors

  • @jeffrhall9219
    @jeffrhall9219 4 роки тому +1

    John Lowenstein was then and remains to this day my favorite player.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 3 роки тому

      In 1982, Lowenstein, Roenicke, and Benny Ayala combined to equal the production of Dale Murphy. Murphy was NL MVP that year.

  • @timmcculty2320
    @timmcculty2320 4 роки тому +1

    love it, love the game, love GREAT STRATEGY!!!!! in any manifestation. Also loved the widely known Moneyball by Michael Lewis, and several other Michael Lewis books.

  • @theLegitHockeywiz
    @theLegitHockeywiz 4 роки тому +1

    One of my favourite UA-cam channels, I used your Astros analysis to introduce friends to your channel. Keep up awesome work!

  • @Cam23
    @Cam23 4 роки тому +9

    Legend for making a video about an Oriole. 💯

    • @raug4413
      @raug4413 3 роки тому

      Because you are not well versed on baseball history?

    • @Cam23
      @Cam23 3 роки тому

      @@raug4413 No. Because the Orioles tend to not be talked about.

    • @raug4413
      @raug4413 3 роки тому

      @@Cam23 If your knowledge only extends to three years back, that may be true. But anyone with a little knowledge pf baseball recognizes such a comment to be one from a noob.

    • @Cam23
      @Cam23 3 роки тому

      @@raug4413 dude what are you even saying. 😂 I don’t think you even know what you’re saying. You’re clearly taking out some of your anger on me.

  • @stevee231
    @stevee231 3 роки тому

    This was a great video as I grew up on the latter half of the 70s Orioles. The 1979 "Orioles Magic" team I think represents or highlights Weavers strategy even more. They didnt have the individual star power but were just as good. And a really fun team as well. Doug DeCinces started something special that year...never forget hearing that call on the radio working the night shift at the GM plant. Those 79-83 teams had many special moments...like Len Sakata being forced to catch late in the game and Tippy Martinez picking off 3 at 1st instead of letting Sakata be ran on. Magical

  • @RoofDoctorsJoanne
    @RoofDoctorsJoanne 4 місяці тому

    1970's was a great time to be a kid & a baseball fanatic! Earl was a great manager & quite a character!

  • @asj5846
    @asj5846 4 роки тому +1

    It's nice as an Orioles fan to learn about why those teams were so good

  • @joeykurtz
    @joeykurtz 4 роки тому +2

    Love this video! Greatest manager of all time!!

  • @eliasper2894
    @eliasper2894 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you! Finally the A's getting some love!

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +2

      I have always admired Oakland as an organization. People always seem to count them out, but they have put together great teams the past couple years.

  • @johnivkovich8655
    @johnivkovich8655 3 роки тому

    Well done! I enjoy Earl Weaver recorded interviews whenever I can find them. Often humor and intelligence are found in the same package.

  • @paulwilliams7103
    @paulwilliams7103 4 роки тому +1

    I actually read that book about Earl Weaver recently. I was thinking the exact same thing about how he was ahead in the baseball world.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +3

      He definitely had some things figured out that others didn't.

  • @sycophant8470
    @sycophant8470 4 роки тому

    sadman and foolish baseball are the two most important youtube channels

  • @erichoffer1589
    @erichoffer1589 4 роки тому

    Thank you for bringing us all some joy in our time of darkest despair. You sir, are a saint.

  • @JohnGaltGurgi
    @JohnGaltGurgi 3 роки тому

    Weaver was beloved in Baltimore. Way more than just a manager....good to see people still think his methods hold up.

  • @papagrantits
    @papagrantits 2 роки тому

    Earl Weaver knew how to put together a great baseball team and build an amazing culture.

  • @williamsanders2348
    @williamsanders2348 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely love the Saturday releases, makes my work day a little better.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +2

      Have a good one today! Gotta be tough working on a Saturday under these present conditions.

    • @williamsanders2348
      @williamsanders2348 4 роки тому

      @@FoolishBaseball Oh goodness, I work in a group home, it's fucking madness right now, the paranoia. I'm just hoping the mlb suspension is short, spring doesn't start until then, I don't care what date it is.

  • @ronaldcammarata3422
    @ronaldcammarata3422 4 роки тому +1

    One thing not mentioned was that Weaver kept a database of stats that showed Orioles players' performances against specific pitchers, and also famously had a collection of index cards that showed opposing hitters tendencies for specific situations. I don't think anyone else was doing anything like that at the time.
    www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bal-sp.os5020aug20-story.html%3foutputType=amp

  • @daltonfarris
    @daltonfarris 4 роки тому +2

    RIP Earl Weaver. He was a great manager, Him, Bobby Cox, lloyd McClendon, and Lou Pinella are the best managers of all time. This is beause they had players backs and wouldn't think twice about standing up for their players against horrible calls, and lighting a fire under their teams by getting ejected.

  • @nattyps3160
    @nattyps3160 Рік тому

    Their will never be an earl weaver again & that classic fight w/ ump bill Hader is beyond a classic. Bless the people that got that fight recorded. Earl ahead of his time too wow

  • @ernestolombardo5811
    @ernestolombardo5811 4 роки тому +2

    If memory serves, Weaver was the very first manager to have a computer installed in the dugout, to check out any batters' AVG vs any particular pitcher and make truly informed batting and pitching changes at any point in the day's game.

  • @petekowalczuk4795
    @petekowalczuk4795 Рік тому

    Man, I just love that closing line

  • @benprantl22
    @benprantl22 4 роки тому

    Even on a snowy day in Colorado, Foolish BB brings the sun out. Thanks!

  • @rosspooper1230
    @rosspooper1230 4 роки тому +1

    FINALLY A VIDEO ABOUT THE ORIOLES

  • @deckle_redd3919
    @deckle_redd3919 4 роки тому +2

    I wish the orioles were still this good and smartly ran, it’s sad to see guys like manny and schoop gone now 😞 I miss them

    • @tommyebunn5121
      @tommyebunn5121 Рік тому

      The O's are back and will be good for years to come.

  • @swinkmibby
    @swinkmibby 4 роки тому +1

    Great video as always! Appreciate that subtle "nice" at 5:28

  • @rmoultonrmoulton145
    @rmoultonrmoulton145 4 роки тому +2

    "Phillip Seymour Art Howeffman"....solid joke right there

    • @raug4413
      @raug4413 3 роки тому

      That's is a joke? Doubt Carlin would be impressed.

  • @edalder2000
    @edalder2000 4 роки тому +2

    I grew up near Baltimore and Earl is beloved.
    BTW Earl got ejected 5 minutes into that game versus Hallion.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому

      *Haller. The reason I bring this up is because I made the same mistake the first time I wrote/recorded this episode. Hallion, aside from being an active umpire, was the guy featured in the hilarious Terry Collins video that mirrors Earl's legendary ejection.

    • @edalder2000
      @edalder2000 4 роки тому

      Foolish Baseball well you’re the expert. Still one of the best ejections I have ever seen.

  • @SolidSnake684
    @SolidSnake684 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Always love to see this Orioles team talked about

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +1

      They had some fantastic players!

    • @SolidSnake684
      @SolidSnake684 4 роки тому +1

      @@FoolishBaseball For sure! My favoirte is always Brooks Robinson

  • @teamwpventure
    @teamwpventure 4 роки тому +1

    Man, that team was easily one of the best ever. Great video as usual!

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +3

      Yes. The '69 team was incredible as well, despite the loss to the Miracle Mets.

  • @KH6DAN
    @KH6DAN 4 роки тому +4

    Great Video. Curt Motton's name was pronounced mo'- ton, with a long o. Richert's name was pronounced ri'- kert with a short i.

    • @BenXM
      @BenXM 4 роки тому

      Dan KH6DAN I feel old hearing an obviously younger baseball fan mispronounce these names from my childhood.

    • @raug4413
      @raug4413 3 роки тому

      And a "k" sound in "Richert," not a "ch" sound.

  • @ogClownBaby
    @ogClownBaby 4 роки тому

    Need more content from UA-cam's MVP, Foolish Baseball

  • @skiplin1888
    @skiplin1888 4 роки тому +1

    I know it’s gonna be a good day when there’s another foolish baseball upload

  • @edalder2000
    @edalder2000 4 роки тому +1

    The best part of that Hallion blow up? It was from a balk call on Mike Flanagan. After the game Earl asked Flanny if he actually balked.
    Flanny replied, “Of course I did.”
    There was a TV crew from WDVM in Washington DC at “that” game doing filming for one of their shows. That’s how Hallion and Earl were preserved for immortality.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +1

      Yes. Without that small TV crew, we wouldn't have that legendary clip!

    • @edalder2000
      @edalder2000 4 роки тому

      Foolish Baseball It will always be hysterical to watch Haller and Weaver argue like a couple who have been together for years. They knew each other’s moves and beats perfectly!

    • @edalder2000
      @edalder2000 4 роки тому

      @@FoolishBaseball One of the UA-cam clips of Earl's Tom Haller tirade had commentary from the actual cameraman! It was for a TV show called "PM Magazine." The crew was from the DC office and Tom Haller was mic'd up for a story about a day in the life of an MLB Umpire and crew.
      ,The TV crew showed up for a game in Baltimore on September 17, 1980 thinking they would get b-roll along with audio.
      Then Haller called a balk. Earl stormed from the dugout and the fun began!

  • @vexio2873
    @vexio2873 4 роки тому +2

    I get so happy when I see FB posts a video

  • @mark2220
    @mark2220 4 роки тому +2

    With the baseball season on pause.. we're counting on YOU for our fix. Get busy! ;)

  • @lionheartz1337
    @lionheartz1337 4 роки тому +1

    Binging with BABIP is my favorite interlude now

  • @gingerface1898
    @gingerface1898 4 роки тому +1

    This is head and shoulders the best baseball content on all of UA-cam. Don’t let that sub count *FOOL* you, you’re doing an amazing job! I’d be willing to catch coronavirus if it meant seeing you reach your deserved 1,000,000 subscriber mark.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +1

      Hah, well let's compromise. Wash your hands long enough, and I could be at 100k soon.

    • @gingerface1898
      @gingerface1898 4 роки тому +1

      Deal.

  • @mattamick1163
    @mattamick1163 2 роки тому

    LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!!Your vids , and yes I remember roenicke and lowenstein, I remember back then thinking"that's a lot of hr's for bench players .." I was 9

  • @willmitchell8219
    @willmitchell8219 4 роки тому

    Such a plus to see a new FB video ... watched twice just for the pleasure of it

  • @CJ-ln5dk
    @CJ-ln5dk 4 роки тому

    This video is perfect! Never stop. I love Foolish Baseball.

  • @FiddlePig
    @FiddlePig 3 роки тому

    I recall in a pre-game interview back in "Game of the Week" days, Joe Garagiola asked Earl about a dog-eared notebook in the dugout... Earl said "that's umpires." So he had scouting reports on umps and their tendencies? Low ball callers, high ball callers... it could affect pitching decisions. If a pitcher throws low, and the day's ump don't call low, you've setup your pitcher for a short outing.

  • @pullt
    @pullt 4 роки тому +2

    Mr. Three Run Homer
    Decades ahead of his time....RIP Legend

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  4 роки тому +1

      It was a life well lived.

    • @pullt
      @pullt 4 роки тому

      @@FoolishBaseball Indeed, Sir....

  • @hermesloyatorres5461
    @hermesloyatorres5461 4 роки тому

    My birthday is in 2 days, so I will take this video as your gift. Thank you for another great video man. I love your work.

  • @austin8783
    @austin8783 4 роки тому +2

    Buck Showalter managed very similarly to Earl. Through 2012-2016 when the O's were winning, Buck knew every one of his players' strengths, and would use them accordingly. Countless times players like ryan flaherty, delmon young and robert andino came up in clutch spots and delivered. It also helped that the bullpen was surprisingly ridiculous. They never lost in extras or 1-run games since guys like brad brach, darren o'day, richard blier, zack britton and mychael givens just came in and shut the door. The Orioles are in the position they're in today because of shitty management and front office people not knowing the game. That's already changed though, and if i can console any Oriole fans, the future is bright.

    • @KTF0
      @KTF0 4 роки тому

      And he shouldve put Britton in

  • @steve0076
    @steve0076 2 роки тому

    This was great! Have you looked at the AL MVP race in 1984? Cal Ripken led the league in WAR by 2 and finished 27th in MVP voting.

  • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
    @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 4 роки тому

    Absolute legend here in Baltimore

  • @grandepatron
    @grandepatron 4 роки тому

    Your videos are awesome we need more like this, I like seeing new ways of thinking and how they start. Your video on Jeff Mathis inspired 14 little 9 year old to put on the catcher's gear for the first time. Keep the videos coming.

  • @kpk33x
    @kpk33x 4 роки тому

    Ken Singleton was another OBP machine a few years later. Eddie Murray had an OBP over .400 one year and several .380 to .400. Ripken took walks and didn't K much. Even Rick Dempsey took walks and his OBP was 80 to 100 points above his batting average. The pitchers kept coming too. Torrez (until traded), Flanagan, McGregor, Stone (briefly), ending with Boddicker.
    Funny how the Orioles were once 30 years ahead of MLB and in 2018 and 2019 were 20 years behind MLB.

  • @robertgaumont5446
    @robertgaumont5446 4 роки тому +1

    This is great, especially acknowledging the really good starting pitching on both teams. There is another angle though as well. Billy Beane was famous for saying regarding his lack of post-season "my sh-- doesn't work in the post-season." Likewise, in that rant between Weaver and Bill Haller the best part is when Weaver tells him he will be in the HOF, and Haller replies "you getting in the Hall of Fame for f--- ing up World Series?" Weaver lost two World Series and won one, while the O's also won a World Series a few years before he became manager and a few years after. So, yeah, it was a sore spot to Weaver. But here is the thing -- Baseball Prospectus has done analysis of this and the one thing World Series winners have in common is the presence of power, strike out, shut 'em down pitchers that can overpower hitters on cold October nights (and the WS games are all nights now). Palmer was a HOF pitcher, but he wasn't a big strike out guy. He wasn't like a Koufax, Gibson or Johnson, Schilling, Beckett, Bumgarner, Strasburg, Sale, Scherzer, Verlander or the other strike out pitchers that seem to dominate the cold, night World Series games of today with lots of strike outs. So I guess the kicker might be moneyball is good to win a division, but not as helpful in postseason play.

    • @martytu20
      @martytu20 4 роки тому

      Robert Gaumont Maybe the next breakthrough is weather context statistics. Meaning, the pitching numbers during colder weather vs hotter weather. Hitting in October Boston vs July Los Angeles.

  • @broncos435
    @broncos435 3 роки тому

    foolish really made a coldsteel the hedgeheg reference at 3:45 💀💀💀absolutely GOATed