Robert E. Lee in the Post-War Years (Lecture)
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2015
- Gettysburg National Military Park Ranger Matt Atkinson examines the post-war life of Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Subjects discussed include Lee's tenure at Washington College (now Washington and Lee University), his role in reconciliation, and the general's famous refusal to discuss the events of the American Civil War.
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Gettysburg is my hometown, i.e., not where I was born (Myrtle Point, OR) but where I grew up from age nine onward. As an adult, the yearly winter lecture series by the Gettysburg National Military Park was one of my favorite things to attend. I am pleased to see a presentation on UA-cam of this series, as I no longer live in Gettysburg. Ranger Matt Atkinson has a terrific personality, clearly knows his subject, and provides us with an exemplary presentation. I am grateful for it. We need more people like him to keep history accurate.
As a great great great granddaughter of Mr, Robert E. Lee Pickett I thank you for this beautiful report of my family, it was absolutely beautiful thank you, many have the wrong idea about him and what kind of man he was, it's nice to hear positive information about my great great great grandfather I'm sure he'd be proud thank you.
Whatever you say about Lee, you have to begin with he was a traitor to the United States.
Hi cousin!!
Apparently, after his presidency, Eisenhower moved to Gettysburg, refusing to discuss WWII, but would hold forth about the Battle of Gettysburg. Fabulous lecture.
As a student of history regarding Robert E. Lee and grandson of a Francis Pendleton Gaines a 29 year President of Washington and Lee University,I can only applaud this presentation. It was so well thought out and delivered. I do no know why I did no find it sooner. VERY WELL Done.Thank you.
Edwin M. GAINES Jr.
100%
What an interesting lecture. Teachers like Matt Atkinson make history come alive. We need more like him teaching in schools and universities.
It would never happen it done fit the narrative. They will paint the whole south and all our generals in a bad light.
. LEE Was a Racist Traitor- fought to preserve slavery- ownership of human beings- resulting in rape, and lynchings - celebrate that????
why am I still receiving this crap again - I do not want to receive this crap
“My experience of men has neither exposed me to think worse of them, nor indisposed me to serve them, nor in spite of failures I now lament, of errors I now see and acknowledge or of the present aspect of affairs do I despair of the future. The truth is this: the march of Providence is so slow, our desires so impatient, the work of progress so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble, the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often only see the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope.” -General Robert E. Lee
This is so profound and I am glad I stumbled upon this quote. As we get older we intuitively realize this but not able to express it as Lee did here. Thank you
@Pennsylvania Mike I posted this on my FB and several people are sharing.
I was sent this by a UA-cam acquaintance. Profound.
We're living in very sad, very strange times, my friend. I have a quote that captures this so prophetically it scares me:
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue removed, every street and building renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
~ George Orwell, 1984
Yee yee
Pennsylvania Mike I blame the FakeNews and infotainment. Great book
@CAT you subscribe to TYT, you were saying?
I am glad that we still have the freedom to talk about things in an unbiased conversation
I know couldn't imagine America being more divided than during that time frame but it seems like now it's not just divided but fractured into a million pieces
After listening to this, I find little rationale in people that want to remove monuments to this man.
@@kevinbishop6582 because people are widely uneducated and have little knowledge of the subjects they hate so much. That's why it's so easy for a few to set the stage to get what tney want by using the weaker minds to do the work.
@@toddnelson7050 people choose to be uneducated the information is out there they just dont want to see it because it destroys there narrative of how things should be or was
You clearly dont know the meaning of the word bias
Excellent History Lesson about Robert E Lee and after the Civil War 👍🏼
Robert E Lee never owned his own home. He did not inherit Stratford, his birthplace. As a youth, he, with his family, resided in homes rented from relations. Next, he went to West Point, graduated, and assumed various posts around the U.S. He came east to visit his family at Arlington House, VA, home of his in-laws. Mary, Lee's wife, inherited Arlington House where Lee continued to visit during various tours of duty around the U.S. Of course, during the war, he needed no fixed home, but Mary and daughters rented the Franklin Street home in Richmond, which is where Lee settled down for just a few short weeks in 1865 when he accepted the Washington College position. The college had, as a "perk" for its president, a home on-campus. There he resided until his death, dying in that fringe benefit from the college. Lee never owned his own home.
”A nation which does not remember what it was yesterday, does not know where it is today!”
This chapter has never been forgotten.
Its pretty clear where we are today
You are supposed to learn about horrible shit like this so it doesnt happen again but conservatives like to use it as a guideline.
Or what they might become tomorrow.
@@jaredadams5748 you do realize the left is literally pushing for segregation again😳
"Robert E. Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war." - Sir Winston Churchill
Both good men
darkduck2000 Indeed.
1920s Agreed! As were other members of the Confederacy such as Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson and George E. Pickett.
+1920s ...how true......where do we have men of such character and devotion TODAY ?? Do they even EXIST ?? Lee shall always be an example of the highest level of character any man could ever hope to achieve....a true "Braveheart" for the ages. I pray he is NOT forgotten and removed from memory by "politically correct" fanatics who don't know their own history, and who behave as poorly as the ISIS thugs who destroy ancient temples and monuments out of pure ignorance and lack of respect.
+John Foster Men like Robert E. Lee dont exist any more I was at the Gettysburg battlefield some years ago to pay my respects. I would have gladly given my life for the Souths independence!
I never get tired of Civil War History/Gettysburg History, and given by Matt Atkinson, thank you Matt!
how about a lecture on NAT TURNER????
PLEASE Stop SENDING ME- This CONFEDERATE BS-I am not subscribed to it - delete it -thks
The moment he walked through that front door for the last time with that uniform ... I think about moments like that a lot. :-)
This presenter is wonderful, his mannerisms so natural and real. 🌷
Robert E . Lee ; " I am responsible ! "
Compare his statement with , " What difference does it make ? "
Exactly.
Donald Miller Donnie is still obsessed with Hillary Clinton
He just can't suit her !
Clinton never went to war against her own country
Clinton never had black slavery whipped
Clinton never invaded PA or MD
And captured 1000 black Americans and marched then South to be sold as slaves
When people call the Clinton's "corrupt" they seem to forget that the Clinton'sactually by choice live rather modestly
They own 2 homes one bought fir 1,5 million in NY
And one bought for 4.5 million in DC
Money is really not something that they have ever cared about
@jrjohnryanjr
What kind of toxic glue have you been sniffing to cause such widespread brain damage ?
@@jrjohnryanjr no, power
The unassuming, humorous and highly informed Matt Atkinson is a joy to watch. I don't know where the National Park Service finds people like him but the fact that people like Matt are to be found is a great source of inspiration.
Lees ignorance lost the war at gettysburg
@@louisunderwood4243 Lee's better judgement didn't show up that day. Pickett's charge was not a calculated risk it was a gamble; a squandering of lives with a wild throw of the dice against an enemy that held the high ground and had the newest and latest artillery.
Still, the actual number of Pickett's KIA's was 498 killed and when the wounded and/or captured is added it comes to 2,655. Over the course of the three days Confederate casualties numbered more than 28,000 so the charge was only a small part of the humiliation.The war went on for another 21 months. In my view the battle didn't mean that Lee had lost the war that day but it did mean that the eventual outcome became obvious to nearly everyone. Lee would never again invade the North and threaten Washington. European powers had been on the verge of recognizing the Conferderacy but changed their minds.The aura of invincibility that once accompanied him was lost and gone forever. Sometimes I wonder if Lee lost it on purpose because in the proverbial 20/20 hindsight he did something dumb.
Yawn
He’s too silly. Too many jokes. Annoying.
Matt is great. Yes Lee should of listened to Longstreet though. Lee did make a huge mistake but he was great.
I can't say enough about how mesmerizing this lecture was. I literally felt like I was in the presence of the late general's insights. Sadly our history has taken a backseat to lies, deception and the desire to forget it. I am so glad that no matter what we think about history, it always remains to remind us of the folly of man and ideas that we may forever be mindful of the future.
Nah. The United Daughters of the Confederation made it their #1 goal to get ahold of Souther textbooks to keep the lie of the Confederacy going. Look like it worked reading these comments.
The only lies and deception has been “The Lost Cause” myth by the South. They are the ones trying to create a false narrative of history. The only difference now is that a lot of people aren’t accepting it anymore and are trying to establish the true history.
Sadly human nature doesn't change. Look at today.
This lecture here is among the best I've heard. I'm relistening it for the 2nd or 3rd time. It really transfers you in that tragic, yet fascinating, era.
... you can say they were wrong, you can say that they lost, but you can’t say they were all bad or evil, and you can’t say they were undeserving of respect, empathy, and reunification ... I’ll always have the deepest respect and admiration for General Lee - not for everything he symbolized, but for everything he was ... he was an honorable man, and I will remember him as such ...
My family has been in Virginia for 200+ years, and I was born there . Lee and his cohorts were traitors and all should be put on trial. for the carnage and death they unleashed on this country to preserve the economic advantages of free labor. Slavery is a birth defect of this country’s founding that plagues us to this day. A lot of the constitutional flaws were added to insure the south would join the union, and we are still paying for it. I am particularly struck by how quick lee shifts to the forgive and forget mode. Using this model there would statues of hitler all over Germany, These people were creeps and no amount of time will change that . It’s not well known but a lot of southerners had no use for the confederacy, slavery or the war and were victims of geography. It’s amazing how doing the wrong thing can haunt you forever
Edwin Wise amen
Christopher Cochran he was a white supremacist
@Abel D Bunker
@CAT
Have either of y'all ever studied why he finally chose to fight against the North. How long he struggled with what to do because he was torn between the Union and his home country of Virginia? The reasons for his decision? You have both made it abundantly clear, the answers to my questions.
Very good points.
"The War was a unnecessary condition of affairs and might of been avoided if forbearance and wisdom had been practiced on both sides." General Robert E. Lee
@TMWSITY You have no clue and are taking everything out of context. You're a fool.
@TMWSITY Not at all. He himself said that if every slave in America belonged to him, he would free them to prevent the war. Rather, he was advocating compromise, wisdom, and forbearance on *both* sides. Both sides agitated for war and stomped on the other side, and he clearly and rightly sees this as a mutual failure.
Robertz1986 The idiot wouldn’t understand.
@Chris Davis The US Constitution didn't forbid secession, nor had the courts ever interpreted to until years after the war. In fact, the Chief Justice even discouraged the war department from attempting to try the Confederates for treason, explaining that they would win and secession would essentially have to be declared legal. So no, the Confederates were not violating any law.
@TMWSITY He wasn't a radical abolitionist, he rather passively disapproved of slavery, and thought ending slavery was a much better alternative to civil war and the Union breaking apart. As for marrying into a slave owning family, what is the problem? Slavery had always existed, if you lived there at that time or pretty much anywhere before the 19th century,, you wouldn't have had a problem marrying into a slave owning family either.
What a tremendous lecture. The presenter made history come alive. Thanks for having this available.
Best lecture on Robert E. Lee. There isn't too much out there about Lee's postwar years and this lecturer answered a lot of the questions I had been so curious about for so long. 👍🏻
Most senior Confederate officers died in the war or shortly after. Very few survived many years later.
As a retired solider, of 22 years, and been in combat myself. War is terrible and people do get injured or killed. The Union and the CSA both were fighting for their own beliefs at the time from 1860-65. A nation divided can not stand for long. God Bless America!
@Nobody Knows and that is how the west was won,,, Crappyforincator,,, Oregone,, Washiton,,,,
Donnie 65 (not your average guy) a sad part of our history. Half the country fighting to support the immoral conduct of slavery.
@Nobody Knows Fighting for a failed cause pushed on them by the plantation owners running the South.
Most Southerners did not own slaves.
Most Slaves did not work on plantations.
They worked in shops as clerks and other things.
While most Southerners ran family farms.
The rich had slaves working on their corporate plantations.
Also most slave owners did not abuse their slaves physically. Abuse them physically and they can't work as hard.
Sure if they ran away they got it.
As with anything there is always evil people that abuse people physically and that is how it was with some plantations.
The slaves in US had longer life expectancies than their fellow people in Africa.
Its ignorant to blame the South for Slavery when Most people did not own slaves.
Also the North had slave States even under Lincoln.
Other Countries had it and for most of history.
African tribal chiefs were part of the slave trade selling young strong men for money and to secure their position for life.
Euros started the Transatlantic slave trade.
Portugal and Spain and then later on UK and more.
Native Americans had their own sins. Even cannibalism and human sacrifices or other things.
I'm part Cherokee and my ancestors owned some maid slaves and they lived in the same house as us and were like grandparents to kids and spanked them.
We gave the last slaves their own land and that land had a well on it. They lived right beside us and did their thing and we did ours. They continued to be adopted family.
My great (2x) fought under Lee, and was at Lee's surrender, while the same day, my great grandpa was born in Roanoke, Virginia. Thank you for making history come to life! (My 2nd son was born April 9, 1988, and his 2nd son, my 2nd grandson, was born April 9, 2008. So, April 9th is a meaningful day for me.)
That’s really cool, do you have any photos of him or anything?
Your family fought in a war so that they could continue own people. They're despicable and hopefully frying in the afterlife ♥
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@@alexanderbarrera9906 YOU ARE A VERY MEAN SPIRITED PERSON. GOD FORGIVES BUT YOU CAN NOT. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE.
@@judithbishop993 I just don't like white supremacists. Not a big fan of people owning people, whipping them, breaking up their families, chopping off limbs if they try to escape. Hey if you agree with that, that's your problem.
Feb 4th 2022 will be Robert E. Lee day here in Tuscon, Arizona. I will push for that at the local levels as Honor & Remeberance of Great People 👍 who brought every tatter in life to a bold conviction of love and peace in Humanity at every cost imaginable. ❤ What I cherished since a small boy was The Civil War. It seems one can only come to one conclusion. I respect both men equally with great depth and my will to be thier will. Perhaps we have not had such a leader at the highest levels thankfully due to these courageous Generals of the 18th Century. To Reach Ones Bar In Life. ✝️
Many today would disparage this great man. I am not one of them.Great job, Ranger Matt....
As they should. The good deeds in life don't necessarily overwrite your largest one. This man led an army of traitors, as a traitor, to try to destroy the country in the name of slavery. over 300,000 union troops perished during the American civil war from the hands of traitors like Lee and the traitor soldiers who served under him.
Too many these days forget about the absolute turmoil and wreckage our country went through over 150 years ago because revisionists want to only focus on the good rather than the absolute horrors and cruelty of a band of traitors. Too many of the problems we face in the US are still directly related to our inaction to traitors such as Lee during the reconstruction era.
He was a racist slave owning traitor. I suspect you find that reprehensible behavior acceptable.
@@frizzykid100 The war only became about slavery when Lincoln realized many enlistments were up and he had an election coming up. The war was about states rights versus the role of the federal government in our lives, genius.
@@borninvincible Uh-huh. Washington owned slaves, too. Without him in the saddle you would be speaking with an effeminate (in your case) British accent.You're a different kind of man from Lee, that's for sure.
@@frizzykid100 Name one white person ANYWHERE in the US in 1861 that would be thrilled his White daughter was involved, sexually, with a Black man. I'll wait. While you're searching for that, name one in 1961. I'll wait. Let's move to today. Name one Black sister that is thrilled to see a Black man with a White girl. Waiting. Robert E. Lee was a God-like figure that loved his state more than his country.He led men into battle, something you could never do. Was Lincoln, the Great Emancipator, racist? There are several papers of his that disparage the intellectual capacity of Black people especially related to voting. You're a self-righteous turd that harbors his own racist secrets and you try to cover it by slamming others.
Robert E Lee was a great man! How can people judge 200 years ago to NOW!
@Pennsylvania Mike absolutely! I wish l had said IT!
This is what happens when communists take power they have to destroy monumental heroes of the past. A DAM DISGRACE.
I love American history. Thank you, Ranger Atkinson, for humanizing such a major American historical figure.
@CAT Youre not right bright are ya?
@@BradWatsonMiami 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CAT
"then you"?
Hahahaha
...than you ( yes, you CAT).
Americaaa....fuck yeah ... comin thru to save the motherfuckin day yeaahh.
He was a traitor to the Union who defended Slavery. I find it sick, that people still see him as a hero and villify Grant who saved the Union. Its one thing to admire his skill and acknowledge that, but to see him as a hero is just not right.
I just watched and I'm very thankful for these types of educational lectures. Thanks for putting this together and presenting it so well!
Enjoying this lecture about my ancestor. My great-great grandmother, Ann Lee, is a descendant of Robert E. Lee. There is a church field trip planned for July 23, 2022 to Lexington, VA to visit the church from which our organ came. Not long before my grandmother passed away, she told me that we're related to John S. Mosby aka The Grey Ghost. Viewer from Roanoke, VA
Robert was a black man know the truth
@@israelitehistorychannel9833, ?? Explain??
@@timothyblack3322 come to my page and the video will explain
Big whoop.
Very cool!❤ I wish that I had been able to attend.
GENERAL LEE SAID HE WOULD SACRIFICE EVERYTHING BUT HONOR. A true gentleman !
Woodie Thompspn honor? He broke a solemn oath he made asan officer to DEFEND the USA
Woodie Thompspn honor? He broke a solemn oath he made asan officer to DEFEND the USA
Woodie Thompspn when his rich father in law died he said he wanted his slaves freed, instead Lee decided to keep them all and had them whipped when they tried to escape
I do not consider that "honorable"
@@jrjohnryanjr I'm not familiar with that but of Information what is your source of it ? From I've read there were two that actually belo ged to his wife he freed them!
@@jrjohnryanjr he did defend it o. More than one occasion was in fact a hero . The story is anti deeper as I'm sure you k now , dont want to ad mit. He was no traitor
I'm so glad these lectures are available on UA-cam. They're such a treat. Thank you
Be a good idea to ARCHIVE this. It'll be scrubbed, you betcha.
re: so glad these lectures are available on UA-cam...
They won't be available much longer
For now...
@@angelsaltamontes7336 !
Robert Lee my son was named after him
@Old timer hot shot Great reply!
My grandma was a direct descendant of Robert E Lee was very cool seeing the family tree
that makes you a direct descendant as well
@george washington Robert E Lee's wife was the great grand daughter of George and Martha Washington as well.
I am a big Robert E. Lee fan, and this presentation makes me appreciate the man even more. Than you Ranger Atkinson.
Lee was a traitor
@@TM-vq1bf and a great general :)
@@TM-vq1bf and you're a chronic underachiever SJW. You'll never amount to shit
Slaver- and a terrible general- blew it at GETTYSBERG
I can watch this lecturer all day long. He's the best in the business. 👍🏻
Absolutly
A quote from Robert E Lee remains one of the wisest statements in American history. A woman asked him what she should tell her sons about the war. Lee said, "Tell your sons to forget their antagonisms and become Americans." How much more sincere can you get?
Sadly, Lee failed to announce that to the entire South. He failed to condemn Mosby and Forrest and all the other Confederate terrorists that refused to stop fighting against their country. Lee was loved in the Confederacy. Yet he never rose to the moment - he wasted it. Rather than use his platform to heal the nation, he retreated within himself to a small college when he should have done so much more to heal this nation. We should expect so much more of great people. He fell so short. In War and Peace.
Lee absolutely did not fail the country!! He spent the last years of his life training young men to reconstruct the South!!
Madam, don't bring up your sons to detest the United States Government. Recollect that we form one country now. Abandon all these local animosities, and make your sons Americans.
Robert E. Lee
@@m3528i That would be the exact quote. Thank you, AbleDelta.
Paul Wallis i went and looked it up so I could keep it. Figured I'd drop it in here too. Thanks for the inspiration.
Six years old, and I'm so glad it's been preserved for us to view.
John F. Kennedy Jr: "As a New englander, I recognize the south is still the land of Washington, who made our nation, of Jefferson who shaped its direction, and of Robert E. Lee who, after gallant failure urged those who had followed him in bravery to reunite America in purpose and courage."
President Eisenhower was questioned why the president of the united states and former Supreme commander of the allied forces of western Europe during World War 2 would have a photograph of General Robert E. Lee in his presidential office and he said this: "General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause....through his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God...he was noble as a leader and...unsullied as I read the pages of our history...a nation of men of Lee's caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul...such are the reasons I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall."
And once again for good measure, Winston Churchill: "Robert E. Lee is the greatest American who's ever lived. I hope every American can learn to be as brave and honorable as he was."
What if a civil war had not happened in Robert Lee's lifetime...would he have been a great American statesman...even President?
Im from Canada and enjoy very much reading about the civil war. I have a small statue of him on his horse. He was incredible. What bothers me is how it was allowed to disgrace him with spray can paint. He was a true icon of military mastery.
I'm from the Netherlands and probably will never be visiting Gettysburg. But boy, do I like to hear this man tell the tale. Love his speaking and humor. Please keep on telling and posting on UA-cam Matt!
Come on over Peter! Gettysburg awaits! Good people here to welcome you! There's a bunch of other battlefields a short drive away... Get your lily white ass over here! 8-)
Shamrockrancher I've been to Gettsyburg and found it extremely disappointing. The people from the area are basically dumb hicks who know next to nothing about the Civil War and their battle site. I found the tours to be very basic. An 8th grader could do better.
Pill Box That's sad to read! It's still on my list though. And if it's as you say, the Walmart must be spectacular to behold!
Pill Box Well I mean... it is still a functioning, modern town. I've never been and I'd like to, but that's what I would expect. Would you think the people living around Waterloo would all be French, or Coalition soldiers?
Peter Heeringa I am from Poland and and I have the same impressions about Matt and his tales, I love them and his sense of humor
Thank you , Ranger Atkinson for this great presentation on General Lee.
@CAT Wow, you are completely ignorant of actual history.
@CAT You can't fix stupid, I'm sorry, but continue to live in your delusional fairy tail.
@CAT After the war, it was well documented that Northern soldiers and leaders had great respect for Lee....if the very men that fought against him had respect for the man, why can't the snowflakes of today?
This war was an embarrassment to our Country. We were at war with ourselves. Only to keep people oppressed. So why would anyone applaud a man who was cruel to people who did absolutely nothing to hurt him or our country. And about him being a christian. He was the wrong example of a Christian. Our God said love your neighbor as yourself. Know did he treat his self like he treated the slaves. Better yet would God want him to even have slaves. I hope he asked the Allmighty to forgive him for the way he oppressed God's people Before he died because it's going to come up judgement day. Everything we ever done without repenting. So please people don't follow after what was done by this man. Follow what God wants us to do. Who side are you on God's side or Robert E. Lee?
Brett Tinder He’s only considered a traitor because the south lost the war. Would you consider Washington or Madison traitors?
Ranger Matt Atkinson is the best presentator on CW history around. The depth and passion he puts into his lectures , as well as his humorous anecdotes make the experience a very pleasant one.
love this lecture.. well articulated and excellent presented in a subject manner. Thank you.
I have studied lee and grant for some 30 years...and of course the civil war in general. I found out a long time ago that when you read and study this war and the people involved...you have to put your current morals and beliefs aside...and try to imagine how the people believed in things back then...don't forget that even though the civil war ended on paper...the beliefs and inner conflicts did not come to an immediate stop...the country was still in shock over the death of president Lincoln...and I remember reading diaries of those who traveled through southern cities many years after the war.....and were shocked over the destruction and the displaced people. the one thing I always admired about lee was his humanity and humility...and how he always referred to virginia as his country. remember this...all these generals..both north and south were honorable people that tried their best in a war were it was countrymen against countrymen.....and today we are very close to facing the exact same thing.
Intellectual laziness is something that will doom this country:(
@@willpower3367 "Wrong" is relative......
Alfred Pambuena Many from both North and South gave their lives
@CAT The fact is, the wrong side won. And your post is wrong on so many levels that it is exhausting to even contemplate a rebuttal. But one thing is certain; if you reject the South's right to secede than you must also condemn the American Revolution. Fact. And the war was a war of invasion of the South by the federal army and as such the blood is on the hand's of Lincoln and Grant. Lee and the other Confederates were defending their homes and you get your history from coloring books.
@CAT You know, you can't even do your math right. This isn't 2035. And the Grant administration was one of the most corrupt presidencies in US history. As for Lincoln, he was a degenerate, depressive tyrant who violated the Constitution at every turn; suspending habeas corpus and jailing journalists. Saying "lol" and babbling about "home team" and "visiting team" is nothing short of moronic. If he had executed officers of the CSA he would have had a guerrilla uprising in the South that would have made the Minutemen look tame. Go pull down a statue. You'll feel better.
Ranger Matt's lectures are outstanding! He is a bright star in the NPS universe :-)
I have just about read everything out there that has ever been written on REL. It wasnt till now that my 40 year search to find the real REL, where I can say I understand him a whole lot better. Thank you Matt!
@jan osovsky BTW the Lord Jesus Christ is my top passion that I still read and study about.. Lee was one of the key players in a national nightmare. Shelby foote put it best. To understand where we are today as a prople you mut understand the American Civil War. It was the cross roads of our being as a prople and it was a hell of a cross roads. Lee has to be one of the most complex people from that time.
@jan osovsky Because the civil war is the most lied about event in American history.
All you really need to know is that they were all traitors.
@@jukeysimmons3589 Lincoln was the traitor. secession is an American right. He invaded the south without congressional approval suspended the writ of Habeas Corpus. Suspended the constitution. Lincoln was a dictator and an affront to the founders.
@jan osovsky Because Hitler's grandfather never founded Israel, nor did Hitler hold the belief that it was God's divine will that the Jews should eventually be free there, so that their mistreatment didn't continue to leave an evil stain on the souls of his countrymen. Keyword there being "eventually"; Lee wasn't a perfect man and bears many disgraces of his age, including his paternalistic racism, and sometimes violent hypocrisy (e.g. Wesley Norris). At the same time, he was a man who considered himself honor-bound to fight a war he knew was doomed and deeply misguided. In the same way, he utterly opposed his own mythologizing and commemoration, aptly predicting that it would leave scars of division on a country he loved, but felt forced to oppose.
From a historical point of view, I believe Lee is far more complex emotionally, philosophically and morally than any of the figures you've listed. They often lacked the internal conflict and vulnerability displayed by Lee. Even Jesus is exempt, due to virtually all accounts of him being later additions, invented decades, or sometimes centuries, after his death.
This was an incredible lecture. Thank you Matt Atkinson for your scholarship. I wish that they still published Freeman's R.E. Lee which was an equally incredible history in 4 volumes.
Why? I have it…it’s full of horse shit.
Also "Lee's Lieutenants" (3 volumes.)
@@iflick7235 I have it plus the Freeman book!
Jokester
Good presentaion. Like finding a little treasure on the internet.
I love hearing the words of General Lee about being patient, especially during these times.
Mystery Surrounds Time Capsule Found Beneath Robert E. Lee Statue
Yes, he had to be patient. He was spared a hanging for treason.
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Thank you so much for sharing via UA-cam. Very inciteful and well presented.
Stars and bars forever.u can tear down our staues but u will never replace us.dixeland forever.
Compare the caliber of men during that time with the clowns we have in politics today. It makes you weep.
Bad times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create bad times.
This is anachronistic BULLSHIT. People are people. Leaders of people are people.
You mean the slave owners and the traitors?
INDEED.
Oh there were plenty of low caliber folks back then. Keep reading to learn more. There are some high caliber folks around now. The trick is to recognize, train, encourage & support those who are better & not just slam all politicians or other aspiring leaders.
Wonderful lecture, there are many of us in Australia who admire R E Lee.
Too right
Remember the confederacy fought to preserve slavery while the men that fough on its side fought for their state (btw most common soldiers also fought to preserve slavery on the confederate side)
@@jonme225 BS read your history. Most Confederate Soldiers and Officers didnt own Slaves, and had no sympathy for those who did. Even Lincoln stated that he wouldnt interfere with Slavery when War broke out. Lincolns Emancipation Act later in the War, only applied to the Southern States. Are you aware that it was SLAVES who completed Washingtons White House Dome and extensions AFTER the Wars end ?
You shouldn't. Lee was a rich slaver owner who fought for his own wealth and social standing. His post war period is filled with stories about how "noble" he was, but he also put his name on a document that swore to the North that the South had come to terms with the Civil War and all the white people would never, ever think about abusing the former slaves. And that right there is what you really should know about Lee - He was either a fool who believed what everyone around him said, or a willful conman scrambling for his state's power while lying through his teeth.
@@ardshielcomplex8917 Read what the South wrote prior to and during the Civil War. They did it to keep owning people and to stay rich, and they rabble roused the non-slave owners by threatening race riots, a promise that abolition would devalue labor, and the promise of the poor one day owning slaves too.
Awesome...just AWESOME!!! That you to all the people whom keep history alive!!! God bless!!!
Robert E Lee is one of the greatest Americans, period. It's a damn shame what his legacy is going through now.
You and lee are both traitors.
@@jukeysimmons3589 Lee had a a chance to take Washington DC, as it was left undefended by Grant. Lee chose note too, because he despised the situation he found himself in and didn’t want to want to destroy the north. He simply wanted the north to respect states’ rights to secede under the US Articles of Confederation.
Ima probably go pee on his grave
@@Redeye2x20 good for you. Nobody will even notice when you die.
@@effscottfitz-gee2024 so a traitor. Also your historical account needs citation bc it smells like bs!
As a Virginian I thank you for this video on Lee. Especially now with all this heartbreaking memorial destruction in Richmond my hometown. Why can't beloved Virginia/civil war history be left alone? To me, personally, it's disgusting!
I agree it is disgusting, they the left are destroying monuments and written past history so they can rewrite thier perverted versions for coming generations .
Let's stop these evil BASTARDS now
Agree. And i'm from the north.
Why do traitors deserve monuments at all? If the commander of the North Carolina National Guard rallied his troops and stormed Ft Bragg and murdered thousands of Army service members, would you build him a monument?
Because you. Will not find anyone that did more in reuniting the country. Maybe you should learn about Lee before you cast aspersions on a man that chose to defend his home (that's 100%of the reason that Lee chose Virginia). Learn from qctual experts on Lee instead if the warped view in the media. Here I'll get you started....60 years of research on the subject on the stage here. There is a reason that Lee is widely held in high esteem
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@@doliver859 you can rationalize until the cows come home. I’m sure you’ve read the articles of secession. That was the cause that Lee and his home fought for. The right to own slaves... “the greatest material interest in the world” and the protection of $ 3,000,000,000 of southern “property”, yes, they’re referring to human beings. For that, his home declared that the “Constitution of the United States of America is no longer binding on any of the citizens of this State” and he went to war against it. I’ll also refer you to the definition of Treason, and that makes him a traitor, no matter how you may try to spin it. I’m not saying he doesn’t belong in the history books, and he may have done good things in addition to his leading a war against the United States. But we should not be building statues that honor traitors and acts of treason.
He was one of the greatest Generals. He was a good and honest man. We went to Arlington House. It is so sad to know that was taken away from the Lee family. It is such a beautiful home. People need to learn about these men and not condemn them. They were all were some of the bravest men to ever be part of the military. They were humble an good men. People today don't take into consideration what circumstances brought them to not leave the South when the war broke out. That was their home. They could not turn their backs on their homes. I grew up in the North, however, I have always had the greatest reverence for General Lee and many other Generals that fought for the South. History needs to be taught. It needs to be discussed. It needs to be looked upon as lessons learned.
Really? Longstreet told him exactly how he could have won Gettysburg, or at least avoided defeat, but instead he orders an unsupported infantry attack against the enemy center? Incompetent fool.
Helena Constantine leftist. I meant leftist Communist. Who wouldn't be able to make it 40 steps these people made.
@@keelsmac01 Quite right. I wouldn't have been able to take a single step on the path of treason.
I suggest you learn what the word communist actually means. Jesus was one.
Helena Constantine the goal of communism is to create a stateless, classless society. Communist thinkers believe this can happen if the people take away the power of the the ruling class, who own the means of production) and establish worker control of the means of production.
Isn't that what y'all leftists want? Absolutely.
Epitome of the "lost cause " myth.
Great lecture I have listened to it 7 times Matt always brings interest to the topics on the war between the states
Thank you Ranger Matt for a very thorough lecture. I enjoy listening to these in my spare time while reading through Shelby Foote's three volume Civil War Narrative.
Thank you Mr. Atkinson for all of the details you have researched and brought forth about Robert E. LEE and the scenarios in history.
Always like to hear Matt's lectures. Lots of good information I had not heard before in this talk. Thanks!
Great lecture! I enjoyed every moment of it
Thank you for an amazing and informative lecture .
General Lee, a West Point graduate, Just as General Grant was, had fortitude. He loved his country and did what he thought was essential to preserve the United States. He was a proud, yet humble leader. The war broke his heart.
@Pennsylvania Mike People aren't mad at "statues of important historical figures" or "names of Army bases," they're mad at the public veneration of men who fought to preserve an explicitly white supremacist state. These statues were not erected to remind us of the evils of the past but rather to celebrate those evils.
broke his heart? because slavery was abolished?
@@ek19106 no because of all the death and destruction.
Thanks Matt another great lecture!
Outstanding presentation. Thank you very much.
A very illuminating and entertaining presentation. Thank you very much!
Awesome story and presentation. Thank you sir!
Great Lecture! Thank You from a fellow, history-loving, retired ranger!
keep up the wonderful work!
Matt is a great lecturer. Love his videos.
National Park Ranger Matt Atkinson held a great lecture.....very informative, very entertaining (I like the picture of Atkinson standing.....with Robert E. Lee sitting and Lee's son to the left)....Thank you, Mr. Atkinson, for this lecture !!!!
Nicely done, Matt Atkinson!
I end up listening to this talk every once in a while on youtube and it always gives me something worth hearing. Perfect!
This is outstanding. Thank you for uploading.
What a awesome lecture, my mom is from Mi my dad is from Panama 🇵🇦. I gre up in NC I recall watching North and South while my mom decorated the tree. I have Been a civil war addict since then grew up 45 Mims from New Bern. Nest lecture ever!
My dear friend it is so refreshing to find someone in this day and age who has the ability to effectively communicate knows the subject matter in a personal manner and take the ability and time To investigate it. I would say that in his time 1865 to 1870. No other American work harder to reconcile this country than General Robert E Lee.
I’m sure he did, but why are we still so divided. A war over slavery.
@@russellkandalaft1381 because of racist people like these confederate simpatizases
@@russellkandalaft1381will my friend it wasn't a war over slavery. It was no more war over slavery than the invasion of Iraq was over weapons of mass destruction. That was a political Ploy just like invading Iraq was for weapons of mass destruction the reason that it is so hard for us in the South to forgive that war is what was done off the battlefield. Losing the battles is not hard for a southerner to swallow it is what was done to our women folk and our families during Sherman's ride to the ocean and during the reconstruction with the carpetbaggers. A lot of people don't know the raping the pillaging the stealing and the all-out murder that took place against the Innocents in the South by the Yankee invader. Also what really pisses me off is here we are 161 years later about to do the same goddamn thing again and no one in government is standing up to stop it
A great talk Matt. We were sorry that we missed you when we were at Gettysburg December 2014.
Wow, just found this. Big Matt fan, and RE Lee ! Go to all his anniversary battlefield walks, Thank you for this. Lee was a great General and great human.
Great human - is your white sheet with you? meeting night?
Wonder if they are still giving this talk. Here in Dallas we have Lee park , has been then for one hundred years. There was a statue of Lee on Traveler. It is now gone , very sad this is our history both the good and bad.
Too many African American crybabies
Why do you want a statue of a traitor and loser?
Yes, do to our very crooked and stupid Politicians, these great reminders of our own History, both good and bad, are being removed just to please a very violent 1% !
It is lunacy to try and erase the great truths of History.
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LEARN THE HISTORY FIRST!
Then you "might" be able to offer intelligent comments!
@@OO-nb2kt it represents half the country
Fantastic and interesting stuff. Really glad to have come across there; what a genial and knowledgeable chap Matt seems to be!
Nice presentation Matt. It was quite informative. Hope to see you this summer.
Lee is one of the most misrepresented and misunderstood figures in American history. Thank you for sharing this lecture.
What is there to understand about Lee.
He fought to preserve slavery and white supremacy, I understand him...
@@stikupartist3698 bless your heart.
@@chesterjade7630 bless your heart
@@guineveregruntle6746 just my heart? What about my lungs and liver?
"'Duty' then is the sublimest word in the English language. You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less."
~ Robert Edward Lee.
A quote that sums up the man. Bravo. One need only look at Lee's early life, his boyhood, his young adulthood, and the selfless devotion, duty, and responsibility he gave to his invalid mother, to understand his devotion, duty, and responsibility he gave to his Virginia and his entire life of leadership. Too many people today, including would-be historians, are too unfortunately anemic, myopic, and lacking in the understanding of human complexity to see past their own biases. Robert E. Lee was one of THE greatest Americans who ever lived.
@@MsLane61 More like "So called" historians. General Lee had more honor, integrity, devotion, and honesty than 99% of Americans today.
Lee led the American Army in the Mexican war and was a FORMER SUPERINTENDENT of West Point. Lee was in every sense AN AMERICAN SOLDIER !
Aside from that time he was a traitor to his country and led a rebellion to keep enslaved people prisonors in the South, sure! A true american great!
@@javiermendez9880 he choose the defense of Virginia over his country. Hardly a traitor. If the feds say they are going to invade my state and tell me to lead that invasion...that would be treason. God speed Robert from a Yankee
@@anthonybeck21 they weren’t invading his state. They were sending in the army to overthrow a rebellion that occurred cause they rebels were scared they were going to be allowed to own black people anymore. Hardly an “invasion” to shut down a rebellion.
@@javiermendez9880 that’s not true for Robert E Lee man Lincoln wanted him to lead the Union army he was not a traitor.
@@salvatoreregalbuto5444 he was asked to lead the army of his nation and he betrayed them and joined and led an armed rebellion. He was a traitor to his country.
I enjoy this every time I watch it . Thank you .
The firewood bomb story is legendary, thanks for sharing Ranger Atkinson
I love these classes and his southern accent.
Thank you Mr.Atkinson! Much appreciation.Thank you also for making history come alive every time you give a talk.🤠🐴🐎
The most fabulous lecture I have ever heard, thanks so much for the effort.
Very well done. Such a great lecture
Unfortunately you forgot the Fantastic Story of Lee kneeling in the church at Richmond after the war next to a black former slave, taking communion alongside him. A beautiful moment for interracial peace....Lee was what we don't have enough, a kind, wise .gentleman. Peace
Was a traitor! Period
@@angus4463 no he wasn’t. Notice there was no trial. That’s because he was not a trader.
@angus4463 what would you have done? Would you have given the order to fire upon your father? Your mother? Your own son?
Have you researched the Civil War?
@@drewbear17 of course he wasn't a trader. He was a general.
No. There was no trail purely be cause there were fears that a jury would rule secession legal. Since a Souther Sympathizer straight up murdered Lincoln and slashed the hell out of the Secretary of State, they were not to take a chance a Booth like minded juror would vote that they would give the Confederacy legitimacy. Which it never had. Plus, it would have made reunification more difficult. But it was NOT because he wasn't a traitor. They all were. If the Revolutionary war had been lost all of the founding fathers would have been shipped to London, dragged through the streets and hanged for treason as well.
What a fantastic, informative lecture. Thank you so much for this wonderfully evocative telling of Lee's later years. I enjoyed that so much tonight.
Myself as Well.
Great history lecture!
Thank you very much for this talk on R.E. Lee.
Fascinating! Such a great lecture.
These lectures lecturers are fantastic,an absolute joy to listen to.
Atkinson is an amazing lecturer!....dude keeps it's engaging from start to finish.
Thanks sir! I need to more fully contemplate the generals words regarding history and hope.
Thank you for this excellent presentation!
It's nice to hear a lecture that isn't filled with hate and propaganda. Well done.
copykon no but the comments are. Jesus
@CAT Where do you hang your poster of Che Guevara?
@CAT Pirate? Who taught you how to troll? My god, you even fail at that. Now you are boring me.
@CAT Ok Boomer =)
He mentions Ann and Mary without explaining who they are. Thank you for this interesting program !
Brilliant lecture. Ranger Matt Atkinson did a wonderful job.
Very nice lecture. I would have liked to been fortunate enough to have met both General Grant and Lee, along with President Lincoln.