Aw man, Day9 playing my favorite game, and on top of that, my favorite race, the undead! So first of all, the gog.com version has some wierd music. To get the amazing ORIGINAL Heroes 2 sountrack with freaking OPERA music, you need the original CD, which is very hard to come by these days (my friend had to burn one from a ISO file). Also, Day9, as a Necromancer, you NEVER want to buy normal zombies, nor mummies. They are stupidly expensive to upgrade, slows your hero down massively on the overland map, and they are crap in combat. Even mutant zombies and royal mummies aren't great, and should only be used for castle defense. Your first priority should be to get vampire lords as quic as humanly possible. Once you get them, you can take almost any engagement without casualties as they just revive themselves on the enemy. 18:18 - The reason why Death Ripple did fuck all to those golems is because iron golems takes half damage from all spells. 19:06 - You could have targeted the lower-middle golem and done splash damage to 3 golems instead of just 2! 20:10 - There's zero reason to enter melee comat in this game while you have a ranged unit and the enemy aren't within your movement range. It may be a "cheap" way to play, but why lose units when you don't need to? 24:00 - Just in case you wonder, the chance to curse for normal mummies is 20% on attack. For royal mummies, the chance goes up to 30%, it's pretty neat, but highly situational. I often throw my mummies on the most dangerous unit in the enemy army and hope for the best! 24:10 - Liches may seem good on paper, but they are weak unless you are in the very late-game. They got fantastic defense, but low hit points. Because of the AI in this game, ranged units gets prioritized all the freaking time, meaning your liches will be picked off in smaller numbers (21:59 to see what I'm talking about). Their splash attack is nice, but it damages your own units (thank you Heroes 3, for fixing this). You should just build a mausoleum and let the liches generate (and pray that the month of plague doesn’t occur), while you focus on vampire lords! 24:14 - Bone Dragons do have a special ability, they decrease enemy morale by -1, meaning you will often see neutral monsters freeze in combat, it's pretty neat. They are also insanely cost effective for their price at 1500 gold per dragon, though the building required to make them is expensive as all fuck! 24:16 - They don't, zombies and skeletons are the only units in the Necromancer army without any special abilities. 26:45 - You cannot change the difficulty on the original campaign, sadly. 32:00 - Behold, a paladin, one of the weakest "ultimate units" in the game, at least stat-wise. You were lucky the artifact was guarded by this guy instead of a titan or black dragon (cause that can happen). However, when upgraded this guy becomes a crusader, and these guys are a necromancers worst nightmare. They strike twice similar to the wolves and deal DOUBLE damage to undead (they are also immune to curse, so mummies can't do shit to them). Be sure to not take these guys lightly if you run into them in the future Day9, they will SHRED you! 34:35 - Day9 noooo, vampire lords are the best unit in the entire fucking game. Upgrading liches to power liches does nothing for their damage output. They get +10 hp, +1 defense, +1 speed and twice the amount of shots, but they also become one of the most expensive tier 5 unit in the game at 900 gold >_> 34:45 - The attack and defense formula is very simple. Your hero adds his/her attack/defense to your creatures attack/defense. For each number of attack you have over the enemy, your unit will deal +5% extra damage. This also works in reverse, so for each point of defense a unit has above a units attack, it takes -5% less damage. This caps out at 50% both ways, meaning that for example if you have an attack skill of 20, and the enemy has a defense skill of 10, getting more attack will not do anything for you, as you've already capped out on 50%. Simply put, you can treat each attack skill as +5% more damage, and each defense skill as +5% less damage. 37:00 - You should know, that while the undead are un-affected by morale, any living troop which fights alongside undead units takes a -2 penalty to their morale, giving them a 16,7% chance to freeze in combat. The archers may sound nice, but they will be pretty crap in combat, and possibly would have made better skeletons. Sorry for the wall of text, and thank you for playing my favorite game of all time, day9
MangsandZerul Agreed on the fact that zombies and mutant zombies are crap, but c'mon, mummies aren't that bad to just leave 'em behind... you're being too harsh on them :)
mr2dax They're not bad, but when you got vampire lords they are just slowing down your hero. It's better to leave them behind until they've massed up :)
mr2dax That's the point, they are so good, the other units in your army will simply slow you down. Towards the late-game when dangerous armies are wandering about, you want your meat like mummies and zombies, with your army, but in the early stages where it's all about fighting weak creatures and picking up treasure, you want mobility over everything else :)
MangsandZerul I started playing the Heroes series because my brothers had the games, and I was just a little scrub that wanted to be like them, and I never realized this game was this in-depth until only a few years ago as I started playing HoMMIII again as an adult and I realized how much was involved in the game (like how it was better to split Gelu's sharpshooters into groups instead of just massing them at first,) but this post made me realize other things were in play in the game. Thank you so much for this, making me realize that these games were hard because I was so young and headstrong, and not just unfair games because the computer could cheat
Oh my god I LOVED this game. I was too young to really understand the math back in the days and still played it all day. :D Thanks for this series Sean.
This is the best Day9 playthrough. I watched this when it premiered and have watched it every 2 years since. I'm so glad he did this and hope he decides to play this again someday.
Bone dragons decrease enemy morale, apparently. Also when vampires attack, units don't get to retaliate (like sprites). All of the special abilities are hidden and you have to find them out by yourself. Crusaders deal double damage to undead, trolls regenerate, wolves attack twice, etc.
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete is my favorite game of all time. I played Heroes 2 a little and really liked it, but I didn't have my own computer and by the time I got one 3 had come out. I love that Day9's playing this game. And I love that he also calls the zombie attack pushing enemies over like I did as a kid.
Man, I love this game so much. I used to know every single stat of every unit, the name of every hero, the effect of every artifact. One of the best games EVER!
Ok, since you love and respect Heroes properly and have -- somehow -- never played III, we need to see you sit down to it for the first time. GoG sells the ultimate edition for pennies. Please?
Man, this is such a nostalgia trip. I loved Heroes 2. I sucked at it but I put so much time into it. Then in Heroes 3, a friend of mine finally taught me how to play (he played on TOH heavily and had quite a bit of success). We put so much time into hot seat games. He'd usually get the better of me since my movement was so inefficient and he'd outdevelop me, but not always. I also loved Heroes 4, even if sometimes it feels like I'm one of the few that did. Sure, on release it was a mess and it took community support to balance it out (friggin vamps amirite), and the AI in skirmish mode was basically broken. But it was so interesting, so chock full of innovative ideas, and the campaigns were some of the best written anywhere. Plus, there was that EXTRAORDINARY soundtrack, even better than H2. Also it didn't hurt that in H4 I finally started winning regularly... Heroes 5 was a disappointment. It was polished system-wise but the art style was gone, and in its place was a generic Blizzard rip-off, and campaigns that could have been written by a 13 year old. The new developers simply didn't have that New World Computing magic even if they were very competent technically and systematically. Heroes 6... yeah, the less said the better. Maybe it was a good game, but I'll never know, since with the game crippling bugs and draconian DRM, I never really gave it a chance. Maybe I'm wrong on that but there's only so much publisher-driven BS I can tolerate. Sadly, there's still nothing like Heroes 2-4 today. Age of Wonders evokes some of the feel but it's missing the charm and diversity of sides. Ubisoft seems content with releasing shabby, broken remakes that barely show any effort (there's a lot of backstory to this but it's been far more Ubisoft's fault than any developers), and I don't see anybody else stepping up to the plate and offering a spiritual sequel. Weirdly enough, I found the closest equivalent of Heroes' tightly-focused turn-based strategy and fantasy charm in Blood Bowl. Even if it is a completely different genre.
oh my god, i cannot believe i am watching day9 play heroes of might and magic. i played the first installment in this series when i was 6 years old and I LOVED it.
First turn; I'll leave some tips for the wandering viewer on how to play the game without being a total noobgoblin. Going for the statue on turn 1 seems a good idea because you get more money out of it the sooner you build it and many a novice heroes have fallen for the temptation; but a wiser necromancer knows that having spent that five extra ore can really bite him in the ass later on. Had you build mage guild you might have gotten magic arrow which will kill many enemies in the first battles, but bloodlust, curse, and stoneskin are also good to wipe out the mobs in your territory when you only have a few units under your command. It is important to realize that your slowest unit determines how far you can move on the map; zombies hinder your early momentum which can break early expansion and your campaign. The advanced player knows that there's a cheesy move where you can garrison your slowest units in the castle at the end of your turn and pick them up the next turn so you can move further than you should; but be warned that should your castle be attacked that turn then screwed thou shall be. Always pick the "useful new skill" when leveling up. There's a small chance you won't be able to get it later on. Ballistics is very useful for your "main hero" to wreck enemy defenses and take his castle with only a few losses. Even if you are a strong magic user that knows the Earthquake spell, you'd rather use your casting round on another spell wouldn't you? Advanced Wisdom on the other hand is totally useless until the end-game; if your main hero already has Basic Wisdom you should only pick an extra level if the alternative is a skill you really don't want/need of when thou hast the resources to build a level 4 mage guild. Don't be afraid to skip on the free xp and go for the gold when picking up chests; unless thou hast a good reason, gold usually the better option. A true hero gains levels by crushing enemies, buy war bonds! Spend that extra cash on recruiting heroes and dump their "free" units into your main hero's army seems expensive compared to recruiting low tier units the normal way. But will give you the power to rush into enemy territory and catch them with their pants down. The key to victory is how fast you can move units around and creating a network of heroes early on grants you more flexibility and is will worth the investment.
All these tips are dependent on the situation and playstyle though. 1. What you build during week 1 and the order depends on both your starting resources and what you have available nearby. And on your strategy. If you have plenty of gold and/or limited ore, sure, save that ore for something more immediately useful. If you have plenty of ore but little gold, the statue might be the better investment. Whether you're planning to end week 1 with vampires, liches, or even bone dragons, will also effect how you allocate your resources and construction-turns. 2. Advanced players may know this, but I don't find myself doing it much if ever. I just don't recruit slow units, unless they're needed for castle defense. And heroes rarely sit in castles. 3. This tip generally applies to the main hero - secondary heroes rarely reach skill limit, so I would take say advanced logistics or advanced estates on a secondary hero, before choosing say basic luck. Also, some strategies go for early lvl 4-5 mage guild, in which case going for early advanced/expert wisdom makes sense. And also there are those who don't care about ballistics and earthquakes, and just swarm enemy castles with fliers, shooters, or teleport skeletons/hydras/whathaveyou over the walls. 4. Personally, I always choose experience from chests. For one, I tend to play defensively, going for long completionist games in which typically I end up with more gold than I need anyway. Early game, more often I find myself short on resources than gold, while late game I'm swimming in both, whereas experience is harder to get. Considering the fact for 1000 gold you can buy one crusader, whereas to get 500 exp you would need to kill 8 crusaders. For 1000 gold you could buy 20 halflings, but to get 500 exp you would need to kill 167 and so on... I consider chests to be cheap experience. And you tend to find plenty of other pickups that just give you gold anyway. However, I acknowledge that more aggressive playstyles, especially those going for high scores, aiming to end games within the first few weeks (mine sometimes go for in-game years ;) ) might benefit from picking the gold. And I assume multiplayer might have entirely different dynamics as well, though I've mostly played single player, or occasionally PvP against friends who... let's say don't have tournament experience either. Still, this comes down to playstyle - I like having lvl 20+ heroes in endgame, having all skills on expert and reaching that point when level ups just give you plain stat upgrades, and when your hero runs around with a few stacks of titans, maybe some black dragons and phoenixes for company, clearing up all the remaining tier6 neutrals from the map. Someone else might like winning during week1, max week2. To each his own.
I've heard of these games before, but this is the first time I've seen them. I love that Day9 has brought this to my attention, because it looks really cool.
Jim Bob So what, you're only like 20 years old, but you grew up playing heroes 3? say what? You would have been like what, 5 years old or something when HOMM3 came out(in 1999)? Or yeah. Why would you be playing this in like 2000's when you could be playing the latest/newest games? Your PC was crap and couldn't run anything better than heroes 3? haha
i honestly dont even know how i stumbled upon HOMM3 but im the type of person where as if i find something i like i just stick to it, i normally do play games for as long as possible..
Day9 Thank you for playing this. It is a large part of my PC childhood as well. Also Necromancer HYPE! Totally the reason I mained Necro in D2 later on. GGs please continue these.
OH GOD THE NOSTALGIA! I'm not even that old, I'm a teenager but I played this with my father and sister when I was very young and I've been thinking about buying it from GOG.
first, split your skeletons into multiple stacks of 1s, then surround your lichs with skeletons to protect them so melees cannot hit them. second, instead of upgrading the zombie and building the mummies, build the vampire and upgrade it asap. third, use the well to replenish your mana and increase your movement speed. fourth, pick up the lumber mill first on the first turn. fifth, hire another hero and scout for the stone quarry on the first turn. lastly, upgrade your skeleton and fill your slots with them, this way whenever you get skeletons after combat, they will be automatically upgraded.
Heck even 4 was up to par in terms of music. Fantastic game by normal standards, just not by Heroes standards. Played up to 4 but 2 was my favorite, but still play 3.
Are you running this in Doxbox or is this the native windows version? It seems to scale better in fullscreen in this video vs. what I see in my Doxbox version. Any ideas? Thanks
So games from GOG are just downloaded, they don't send you physical disks? Does that mean there are no compatibility issues with older games on new operating systems? Or would I still need to use a virtual PC running windows 98 to play them?
You legend! All the old HoMM games were sooooooooo good. Used to play Heroes 3 Complete Random Generated maps with my dad all the time. It was always a blast. Gonna enjoy watching these videos haha! Cheers!
I used to play this game all day every day in the 90's. Its the best heroes of Might and Magic game. The map editor is where its at. Make the largest map available. Put the enemies really far away and fill the world with plenty of resources and enemies and then spend litetal hours vieing for control (with a couple of naughty cheetingly placed assets close to your castle)
This game was my first videogame ever, on my old Pentium II. I lost the track of it, but a few years ago I got the collection pack for Heroes I, II, III and IV fo about 6$. So much fun.
Excellent video. Why couldn't the PS2 game Heroes Of Might and Magic - Quest for the Dragonbane staff have the features from this game (guilds, more mines (sulfur), etc...) - would have been awesome having a more complete version of this updated to the PS2.
Really love HoMM 2. The asymmetry between the races was really cool to see, as they really had identity. A lot of people like HoMM3 better, but I personally found that with each town having dwelling upgrades made the races homogeneous (and not to mention like half the races had a variant dragon for their best unit). Really bugged me having a mix of Skeleton and Skeleton Warrior in HoMM3 (necromancy doesn't give warriors unlesss you had a full army) for example, while in here you just go with your skeleton horde, get your Liches then your Bone Dragon power spike.
Wow...very interesting to watch. I didn't get to start playing any of the Heroes of Might and Magic games until 3 came out. So I've never gotten to experience this one.
theStonerKid69 heroes 2 was a great one to start with, but once you play 3 enough it's hard to go back to 2 because there are simply a lot of things that feel like they are missing
I never really got into this game but I've played rpg's of that time and this game looks amazing. I need this in my life now, the music.. the art.. it's so gorgeous. The only ehh is the UI but then again, it's an old game so it can't be seen as a flaw.
Oh man, so glad i still have 3 installed on my computer from GOG. I also have the Heroes III series as well, with Tarnum the Immortal Hero. Good times.
+Kaktusfamnar just use dosbox. It's a program that emulate old dos games which is making game playable fully. GOG games are for example automatic being used by dosbox after install. I'm playing it a lot thanks to this software
Looking forward to Heroes 7? I wonder if it will be any good. Hopefully you didn't answer this question during the stream I haven't watched it yet and will feel like a dummy :D
never seen your videos.. dont know ur LPs.. just stubbled across this nostalgia LP.. but damn hahahah i love ur impression of the undead sounds.. made me laugh xD
I actually like Heroes II graphics more than Heroes III's.
Aw man, Day9 playing my favorite game, and on top of that, my favorite race, the undead!
So first of all, the gog.com version has some wierd music. To get the amazing ORIGINAL Heroes 2 sountrack with freaking OPERA music, you need the original CD, which is very hard to come by these days (my friend had to burn one from a ISO file).
Also, Day9, as a Necromancer, you NEVER want to buy normal zombies, nor mummies. They are stupidly expensive to upgrade, slows your hero down massively on the overland map, and they are crap in combat. Even mutant zombies and royal mummies aren't great, and should only be used for castle defense.
Your first priority should be to get vampire lords as quic as humanly possible. Once you get them, you can take almost any engagement without casualties as they just revive themselves on the enemy.
18:18 - The reason why Death Ripple did fuck all to those golems is because iron golems takes half damage from all spells.
19:06 - You could have targeted the lower-middle golem and done splash damage to 3 golems instead of just 2!
20:10 - There's zero reason to enter melee comat in this game while you have a ranged unit and the enemy aren't within your movement range. It may be a "cheap" way to play, but why lose units when you don't need to?
24:00 - Just in case you wonder, the chance to curse for normal mummies is 20% on attack. For royal mummies, the chance goes up to 30%, it's pretty neat, but highly situational. I often throw my mummies on the most dangerous unit in the enemy army and hope for the best!
24:10 - Liches may seem good on paper, but they are weak unless you are in the very late-game. They got fantastic defense, but low hit points. Because of the AI in this game, ranged units gets prioritized all the freaking time, meaning your liches will be picked off in smaller numbers (21:59 to see what I'm talking about). Their splash attack is nice, but it damages your own units (thank you Heroes 3, for fixing this). You should just build a mausoleum and let the liches generate (and pray that the month of plague doesn’t occur), while you focus on vampire lords!
24:14 - Bone Dragons do have a special ability, they decrease enemy morale by -1, meaning you will often see neutral monsters freeze in combat, it's pretty neat. They are also insanely cost effective for their price at 1500 gold per dragon, though the building required to make them is expensive as all fuck!
24:16 - They don't, zombies and skeletons are the only units in the Necromancer army without any special abilities.
26:45 - You cannot change the difficulty on the original campaign, sadly.
32:00 - Behold, a paladin, one of the weakest "ultimate units" in the game, at least stat-wise. You were lucky the artifact was guarded by this guy instead of a titan or black dragon (cause that can happen). However, when upgraded this guy becomes a crusader, and these guys are a necromancers worst nightmare. They strike twice similar to the wolves and deal DOUBLE damage to undead (they are also immune to curse, so mummies can't do shit to them). Be sure to not take these guys lightly if you run into them in the future Day9, they will SHRED you!
34:35 - Day9 noooo, vampire lords are the best unit in the entire fucking game. Upgrading liches to power liches does nothing for their damage output. They get +10 hp, +1 defense, +1 speed and twice the amount of shots, but they also become one of the most expensive tier 5 unit in the game at 900 gold >_>
34:45 - The attack and defense formula is very simple. Your hero adds his/her attack/defense to your creatures attack/defense. For each number of attack you have over the enemy, your unit will deal +5% extra damage. This also works in reverse, so for each point of defense a unit has above a units attack, it takes -5% less damage. This caps out at 50% both ways, meaning that for example if you have an attack skill of 20, and the enemy has a defense skill of 10, getting more attack will not do anything for you, as you've already capped out on 50%. Simply put, you can treat each attack skill as +5% more damage, and each defense skill as +5% less damage.
37:00 - You should know, that while the undead are un-affected by morale, any living troop which fights alongside undead units takes a -2 penalty to their morale, giving them a 16,7% chance to freeze in combat. The archers may sound nice, but they will be pretty crap in combat, and possibly would have made better skeletons.
Sorry for the wall of text, and thank you for playing my favorite game of all time, day9
MangsandZerul Agreed on the fact that zombies and mutant zombies are crap, but c'mon, mummies aren't that bad to just leave 'em behind... you're being too harsh on them :)
mr2dax They're not bad, but when you got vampire lords they are just slowing down your hero. It's better to leave them behind until they've massed up :)
MangsandZerul Vampire Lord imbalance for the win ofc! ;)
mr2dax That's the point, they are so good, the other units in your army will simply slow you down. Towards the late-game when dangerous armies are wandering about, you want your meat like mummies and zombies, with your army, but in the early stages where it's all about fighting weak creatures and picking up treasure, you want mobility over everything else :)
MangsandZerul I started playing the Heroes series because my brothers had the games, and I was just a little scrub that wanted to be like them, and I never realized this game was this in-depth until only a few years ago as I started playing HoMMIII again as an adult and I realized how much was involved in the game (like how it was better to split Gelu's sharpshooters into groups instead of just massing them at first,) but this post made me realize other things were in play in the game. Thank you so much for this, making me realize that these games were hard because I was so young and headstrong, and not just unfair games because the computer could cheat
FINALLY Someone who agrees with me that Heroes of Might and Magic 2 is supperior to the other ones..!
I agree that it is as well.
Oh my god I LOVED this game.
I was too young to really understand the math back in the days and still played it all day. :D
Thanks for this series Sean.
This is the best Day9 playthrough. I watched this when it premiered and have watched it every 2 years since. I'm so glad he did this and hope he decides to play this again someday.
Bone dragons decrease enemy morale, apparently. Also when vampires attack, units don't get to retaliate (like sprites). All of the special abilities are hidden and you have to find them out by yourself. Crusaders deal double damage to undead, trolls regenerate, wolves attack twice, etc.
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete is my favorite game of all time. I played Heroes 2 a little and really liked it, but I didn't have my own computer and by the time I got one 3 had come out.
I love that Day9's playing this game. And I love that he also calls the zombie attack pushing enemies over like I did as a kid.
Man, I love this game so much. I used to know every single stat of every unit, the name of every hero, the effect of every artifact. One of the best games EVER!
Ok, since you love and respect Heroes properly and have -- somehow -- never played III, we need to see you sit down to it for the first time. GoG sells the ultimate edition for pennies.
Please?
***** Should tweet him and maybe he'll see it :)
Heroes 2, nice! ...You'll never see this in the "this game looks bad 30 years from now" category.
landar486 Considering most games since we hit the new millenium fits into the "looks bad 2 years from now" category, i'd say thats extra impressive.
2018, i'm 31 and holy crap do i like this trip down nostalgia road. These memory trips are just really fun to watch.
Day9 this is the best thing ever....please play 1 and 3 as well and I'll marry you dude
Jovan Agreed, heroes 3 was my favourite by far
Jovan Having played the shit out of all 3, I concur.
***** Me too haha my favourite faction was conflux xD
Jovan The first one hasn't aged very well...
Jovan No need to play 1 as it is the same as 2 with less units, but 3 is well worth playing :-)
Man, this is such a nostalgia trip. I loved Heroes 2. I sucked at it but I put so much time into it. Then in Heroes 3, a friend of mine finally taught me how to play (he played on TOH heavily and had quite a bit of success). We put so much time into hot seat games. He'd usually get the better of me since my movement was so inefficient and he'd outdevelop me, but not always.
I also loved Heroes 4, even if sometimes it feels like I'm one of the few that did. Sure, on release it was a mess and it took community support to balance it out (friggin vamps amirite), and the AI in skirmish mode was basically broken. But it was so interesting, so chock full of innovative ideas, and the campaigns were some of the best written anywhere. Plus, there was that EXTRAORDINARY soundtrack, even better than H2. Also it didn't hurt that in H4 I finally started winning regularly...
Heroes 5 was a disappointment. It was polished system-wise but the art style was gone, and in its place was a generic Blizzard rip-off, and campaigns that could have been written by a 13 year old. The new developers simply didn't have that New World Computing magic even if they were very competent technically and systematically.
Heroes 6... yeah, the less said the better. Maybe it was a good game, but I'll never know, since with the game crippling bugs and draconian DRM, I never really gave it a chance. Maybe I'm wrong on that but there's only so much publisher-driven BS I can tolerate.
Sadly, there's still nothing like Heroes 2-4 today. Age of Wonders evokes some of the feel but it's missing the charm and diversity of sides. Ubisoft seems content with releasing shabby, broken remakes that barely show any effort (there's a lot of backstory to this but it's been far more Ubisoft's fault than any developers), and I don't see anybody else stepping up to the plate and offering a spiritual sequel.
Weirdly enough, I found the closest equivalent of Heroes' tightly-focused turn-based strategy and fantasy charm in Blood Bowl. Even if it is a completely different genre.
Agreed with you on the 4th installation of the series.
oh my god, i cannot believe i am watching day9 play heroes of might and magic. i played the first installment in this series when i was 6 years old and I LOVED it.
Day9 use the goddamned well to restore your mana, there's a well right next to your lumber mill!
This game looks infinitely better than the newest game they brought out recently. Crazy how downhill that went.
this game is my childhood, and still one of my favorite games
2 and 3 were the best things ever made. THanks day9
I literally could not have wished for Day9 to play a better game
First turn; I'll leave some tips for the wandering viewer on how to play the game without being a total noobgoblin.
Going for the statue on turn 1 seems a good idea because you get more money out of it the sooner you build it and many a novice heroes have fallen for the temptation; but a wiser necromancer knows that having spent that five extra ore can really bite him in the ass later on. Had you build mage guild you might have gotten magic arrow which will kill many enemies in the first battles, but bloodlust, curse, and stoneskin are also good to wipe out the mobs in your territory when you only have a few units under your command.
It is important to realize that your slowest unit determines how far you can move on the map; zombies hinder your early momentum which can break early expansion and your campaign. The advanced player knows that there's a cheesy move where you can garrison your slowest units in the castle at the end of your turn and pick them up the next turn so you can move further than you should; but be warned that should your castle be attacked that turn then screwed thou shall be.
Always pick the "useful new skill" when leveling up. There's a small chance you won't be able to get it later on. Ballistics is very useful for your "main hero" to wreck enemy defenses and take his castle with only a few losses. Even if you are a strong magic user that knows the Earthquake spell, you'd rather use your casting round on another spell wouldn't you? Advanced Wisdom on the other hand is totally useless until the end-game; if your main hero already has Basic Wisdom you should only pick an extra level if the alternative is a skill you really don't want/need of when thou hast the resources to build a level 4 mage guild.
Don't be afraid to skip on the free xp and go for the gold when picking up chests; unless thou hast a good reason, gold usually the better option. A true hero gains levels by crushing enemies, buy war bonds! Spend that extra cash on recruiting heroes and dump their "free" units into your main hero's army seems expensive compared to recruiting low tier units the normal way. But will give you the power to rush into enemy territory and catch them with their pants down. The key to victory is how fast you can move units around and creating a network of heroes early on grants you more flexibility and is will worth the investment.
All these tips are dependent on the situation and playstyle though.
1. What you build during week 1 and the order depends on both your starting resources and what you have available nearby. And on your strategy. If you have plenty of gold and/or limited ore, sure, save that ore for something more immediately useful. If you have plenty of ore but little gold, the statue might be the better investment. Whether you're planning to end week 1 with vampires, liches, or even bone dragons, will also effect how you allocate your resources and construction-turns.
2. Advanced players may know this, but I don't find myself doing it much if ever. I just don't recruit slow units, unless they're needed for castle defense. And heroes rarely sit in castles.
3. This tip generally applies to the main hero - secondary heroes rarely reach skill limit, so I would take say advanced logistics or advanced estates on a secondary hero, before choosing say basic luck. Also, some strategies go for early lvl 4-5 mage guild, in which case going for early advanced/expert wisdom makes sense. And also there are those who don't care about ballistics and earthquakes, and just swarm enemy castles with fliers, shooters, or teleport skeletons/hydras/whathaveyou over the walls.
4. Personally, I always choose experience from chests. For one, I tend to play defensively, going for long completionist games in which typically I end up with more gold than I need anyway. Early game, more often I find myself short on resources than gold, while late game I'm swimming in both, whereas experience is harder to get. Considering the fact for 1000 gold you can buy one crusader, whereas to get 500 exp you would need to kill 8 crusaders. For 1000 gold you could buy 20 halflings, but to get 500 exp you would need to kill 167 and so on... I consider chests to be cheap experience. And you tend to find plenty of other pickups that just give you gold anyway. However, I acknowledge that more aggressive playstyles, especially those going for high scores, aiming to end games within the first few weeks (mine sometimes go for in-game years ;) ) might benefit from picking the gold. And I assume multiplayer might have entirely different dynamics as well, though I've mostly played single player, or occasionally PvP against friends who... let's say don't have tournament experience either.
Still, this comes down to playstyle - I like having lvl 20+ heroes in endgame, having all skills on expert and reaching that point when level ups just give you plain stat upgrades, and when your hero runs around with a few stacks of titans, maybe some black dragons and phoenixes for company, clearing up all the remaining tier6 neutrals from the map. Someone else might like winning during week1, max week2. To each his own.
I've heard of these games before, but this is the first time I've seen them. I love that Day9 has brought this to my attention, because it looks really cool.
NOSTALGIAAAAAA. Thank you, day9. this is awesome.
Thank you so much for doing this, man! This is also one of my most treasured childhood games. It feels good having this nostalgia trip.
This game was my childhood!! Thanks for playing it Day9!
Kind of wish it was Heroes of Might and Magic 3 , since thats what i grew up with but i im also (most likely) 10 years younger than Sean.
Jim Bob I had 1 and 3 as a kid so I'm glad he's playing 2 so I can get to experience it as well :)
Jim Bob Me too... I also loved the cheats in Heroes 3 ;)
Jim Bob So what, you're only like 20 years old, but you grew up playing heroes 3? say what? You would have been like what, 5 years old or something when HOMM3 came out(in 1999)? Or yeah. Why would you be playing this in like 2000's when you could be playing the latest/newest games? Your PC was crap and couldn't run anything better than heroes 3? haha
i honestly dont even know how i stumbled upon HOMM3 but im the type of person where as if i find something i like i just stick to it, i normally do play games for as long as possible..
Day9 Thank you for playing this. It is a large part of my PC childhood as well. Also Necromancer HYPE! Totally the reason I mained Necro in D2 later on. GGs please continue these.
Literally went and bought this in the first two minutes of the videos and then played along with you. Awesome game.
This is the best heroes game by far, love your vids man. Thanks for all the content you create!
OH GOD THE NOSTALGIA!
I'm not even that old, I'm a teenager but I played this with my father and sister when I was very young and I've been thinking about buying it from GOG.
Oh Day[9], you beautiful man. This gave me hardcore nostalgia for Heroes 1. That was my childhood!
Thanks for bringing back my childhood
11:47.... "Scout Tower.......HYPE." Hahahaha, Sean's hilarious.
The memories, the horrors, the nightmares! Black dragons, black dragons EVERYWHERE!
demilung I had once in a custom campaign, a very large one, +27 att and +19 def on my Bone Dragons. They were tearing Dlack Dragons on even numbers.
Ha ha, i see what you did here. Star Wars Clone Wars Tops and Fives quotes!
you cant imagine how happy this makes me i used to play this with my father brother and cousings all the time best game ever ty so much
Aww yes! One of the best games ever. I spent so many hours on this when i was a kid.
first, split your skeletons into multiple stacks of 1s, then surround your lichs with skeletons to protect them so melees cannot hit them.
second, instead of upgrading the zombie and building the mummies, build the vampire and upgrade it asap.
third, use the well to replenish your mana and increase your movement speed.
fourth, pick up the lumber mill first on the first turn.
fifth, hire another hero and scout for the stone quarry on the first turn.
lastly, upgrade your skeleton and fill your slots with them, this way whenever you get skeletons after combat, they will be automatically upgraded.
love the might and magic series
Homm2 and Master of Magic- my top two games of all time.
Heroes 2 was my favorite game.Heroes 3 was good,but not as good as Heroes 2.
You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
agreed 100%. But 3 is also veeeery good.
Heck even 4 was up to par in terms of music. Fantastic game by normal standards, just not by Heroes standards. Played up to 4 but 2 was my favorite, but still play 3.
Such a good game, I played this and 3 so many hours of my childhood.
this bring backs so many memories!
Ooohhhh that music kickin' in at 5:30. The memories it brings back.
Are you running this in Doxbox or is this the native windows version? It seems to scale better in fullscreen in this video vs. what I see in my Doxbox version. Any ideas? Thanks
Oh my goodness the nostalgia!! This and the even better sequel Heroes 3 is amazing
lol... Skeletons from Iron Golems. I knew it all along. For every golem they make, they entomb someone in them alive!
Day9 I'm so very happy that you play these kind of games. I think this game is amazing, keep up the good work and keep playing this one :D
how can u record this game? what program u use for record?
I use OBS and seems not work
One of the first games i ever played on a PC was Heroes of might and magic 3. Back in 1999. And It's still one of my favorite games of all time.
So games from GOG are just downloaded, they don't send you physical disks? Does that mean there are no compatibility issues with older games on new operating systems? Or would I still need to use a virtual PC running windows 98 to play them?
I bought back H3 just because of the nostalgy this video gave me! D: Day9 best nine
You legend!
All the old HoMM games were sooooooooo good. Used to play Heroes 3 Complete Random Generated maps with my dad all the time. It was always a blast. Gonna enjoy watching these videos haha! Cheers!
The music is beautiful. Best part: 32:13.
The old HoMM games are some of my favourites as well. How did you get the original music to play in the game? I can only play the midi versions.
Yesssssssss. I played so much of so many of the Heroes of Might and Magic games =D Such good!
What version are you playing?the graphics and sound is so much superior to the one i play :(
HOMM 3 next!
Stormeris Yeah, the 3 is pretty much a better 2. Much better than the poops that came after until TOE.
MrWormWallace TOE?
Stormeris Tribes of (the) East I guess...
Stormeris 2 was always my favorite game. 3 wasn't bad though.
Stormeris HOMM 3 is in my top 5 games of all time. it's that good.
I used to play this game all day every day in the 90's. Its the best heroes of Might and Magic game. The map editor is where its at. Make the largest map available. Put the enemies really far away and fill the world with plenty of resources and enemies and then spend litetal hours vieing for control (with a couple of naughty cheetingly placed assets close to your castle)
This game was my first videogame ever, on my old Pentium II. I lost the track of it, but a few years ago I got the collection pack for Heroes I, II, III and IV fo about 6$. So much fun.
I still play this game...awesome
Excellent video. Why couldn't the PS2 game Heroes Of Might and Magic - Quest for the Dragonbane staff have the features from this game (guilds, more mines (sulfur), etc...) - would have been awesome having a more complete version of this updated to the PS2.
Oh the memories....the countless memories of thwarting your enemies with hordes of halflings.
Omg! My childhood!!! I love this game!!!
Heroes of Might and Magic 2 is one of my favorite games.
Please do one more gameplay with Heroes Of The Might And Magic 2! Can you play with the Good next time!?!?!
This is very fun to watch!
Really love HoMM 2. The asymmetry between the races was really cool to see, as they really had identity. A lot of people like HoMM3 better, but I personally found that with each town having dwelling upgrades made the races homogeneous (and not to mention like half the races had a variant dragon for their best unit). Really bugged me having a mix of Skeleton and Skeleton Warrior in HoMM3 (necromancy doesn't give warriors unlesss you had a full army) for example, while in here you just go with your skeleton horde, get your Liches then your Bone Dragon power spike.
One of my favorite games growing up. It sucks that it's PC only on GOG, but at least I can enjoy a Day9 play through
Wow...very interesting to watch. I didn't get to start playing any of the Heroes of Might and Magic games until 3 came out. So I've never gotten to experience this one.
theStonerKid69 heroes 2 was a great one to start with, but once you play 3 enough it's hard to go back to 2 because there are simply a lot of things that feel like they are missing
I started playing HOMM starting at Heroes of Might and Magic 0, also known as "King's Bounty" for the Sega Genesis.
+Walloficecream
King's Bounty is a completely different franchise.
You're ignorant. Play Might and Magic: Dragonbone Staff and compare it to King's Bounty. Oh wait, you can't. It's the same game.
How did you get homm2 to that decent resolution? playing it on 1920x1080 looks complete garbage compared to yours :(
So is Week 2 Day 2 is actually Day 9?
That music shift at 5:29 made his speech real intense for a moment there...
Ah. A man of culture.
How do you get the game to run on a more modern computer?
Gog.com
Love this game. Have the Platinum Edition!!!! Great video!
Might and magic 6 - The mandate of heaven is my most nostalgic awesome game
were do you buy this game?
loved yhis game sisn i was a kid
Best series ever. Please play 3 also. I love you
By the way, Sean please do more games that you just want to play! It's so much better to see you completeley engaged and explain a game that you like!
I used to play the crap out of this game! Good to see it get some love.
Sick! One of my favorite games of all time and the best of the series.
I never really got into this game but I've played rpg's of that time and this game looks amazing. I need this in my life now, the music.. the art.. it's so gorgeous. The only ehh is the UI but then again, it's an old game so it can't be seen as a flaw.
are the Heroes of Might & Magic games hard to learn?
Oh man. That music is great!
Oh man, so glad i still have 3 installed on my computer from GOG. I also have the Heroes III series as well, with Tarnum the Immortal Hero. Good times.
this game i used to play like 10years ago. its soooo good. i wonder how old it is
I absolutely loved the stream and watched all of it, just wish I could see you play the rest of the evil campaign aswell.
Awesome, love this game!
Are you using windows 10 to play this game??
And im wondering if it is possible for you to make a video, how i install Heroes of might and magic 2?
+Kaktusfamnar just use dosbox. It's a program that emulate old dos games which is making game playable fully. GOG games are for example automatic being used by dosbox after install. I'm playing it a lot thanks to this software
+Alucard8319 Okey, thank you!!:)
"This is better than Warcraft 1"
Well said. Very well said.
i was so happy when i saw this...little sad it wasn't homm 3, haven't played part 2 all that much
I'd love to see you do a playthrough of this and then a playthrough of the new one that's going to come out soon(tm).
My favorite one was 3 which is quite typical i know. But i think its cause i only ever owned 1 and 3 back in the day.
Do they download on to the computer, or do you get a disc from gog
Good Old Games is a download service, DRM free. I bought HOMM II from them and it works like a charm.
Looking forward to Heroes 7? I wonder if it will be any good.
Hopefully you didn't answer this question during the stream I haven't watched it yet and will feel like a dummy :D
Day9 could be Chris Hanson's successor based on how much he tells people to take a seat :3 Zombies are hilarious
never seen your videos.. dont know ur LPs.. just stubbled across this nostalgia LP.. but damn hahahah i love ur impression of the undead sounds.. made me laugh xD
i love how you imitate a zombie unit sounds :D
How did you guys like Heroes 5? I always thought it came really close to topping 3 but somethings were missing.
HOMM 5 was forgettable. Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the Dragonbone Staff is my favorite, but I still have to play all of them.
UnknowGuy100 I loved 5. It made the different factions feel more special aside from just different units. Gating for daaaays!
"I'm growing in power so hard right now!" - Day9, 2015
At 4:06, this grassland theme song is remixed in Heroes 6 as summer terrain theme. Love the music of this series.