I’m going to guess (tongue in cheek) that Sagan had billions of things to say about it. But there is bon mot in the same vein, “A man said to the universe, ‘Sir I exist!’ to which the universe replaced, ‘that does instill in me a sense of obligation’ “
If you truly want to know the Truth, do these four simple steps. Forgive your parents, brake down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read the Bible. There's deep spiritual significance in these steps. After doing them sincerely, God gives you a Divine Revelation. I'm not talking about fuzzy feelings, signs, or talking to yourself, but an actual honest to goodness conversation between you, and God. These steps are the mustard seed of Faith God wants to see from us. He won't reveal himself until you do them guininly. Don't believe me, nor anyone else, do these steps and get the Truth for yourself. I can say with absolute certainly that they work 100% of the time. You just have to be guinine, it's not hard, you will know if you're not, and so will God. If you're seriously interested in the Truth, this is the pathway to it. There's actually very important reasons everything is set up this way, and why Faith is key. God will inform you directly after you do these steps, explaining everything you need to know personally. Very serious here. An actual one on one conversation. Not feelings, not signs, not anything you're going to misinterpret. An extremely real event. You see, Faith is important because it's something we can all find inside of ourselves. It doesn't matter how smart you are, how much money you have, or weather or not you're imprisoned. You can always Hope. This is why it's the only way to God. Forgiveness trips up most people, especially Christans. People just don't find it easy, it hurts us a bit. That's why it's the most important step. To be forgiven, we must forgive. It's all over the Bible. But most people never bother reading it, let alone actually doing the work God gives us. You see, all sin is unforgivable to God, that's why he has Grace, because he's still willing to forgive us, especially when we can't bring ourselves to forgive ourselves. But he wants us to follow his example. Jesus explained this in Matthew, by parable. If we do not forgive what we think is unforgivable, God will not forgive us. This message is littered all thoughout the Bible, both old, and new testament. Most Christans, like 99%, only ever open their Bible in church, otherwise it's a paper weight, and sadly most churches don't emphasize the truly important message. Our problems with our parents are meant to represent our problems with God, this is why we all have them. Once we show the willingness to forgive their inadequacy, God pays closer attention to us. Before this step you're not saved, no matter how many times you go to church. This is why God stays at arm's length. Once you put in the inner work, showing this mustard seed of Faith, God rushes into your life in a very real way. I'm not talking about fuzzy feelings, signs, etc, but an actual, honest to goodness conversation between you, and God. No one else can do these steps for you. You have to do them for yourself. People may lie, say they did them, and nothing happened, but don't let their words sway you. Do these steps for yourself. I can say with absolute certainly that these steps work. You've just got to be guinine. It's not hard. You'll know if you're coming from the right place. Testing God only makes him hide himself. Be sinsere, do these four simple steps, and you'll be enlightened to so much you've blinded yourself to. There's so much you've allowed yourself to forget. Please, take your salvation seriously.
Came here to say this, happy that someone else did it before me. May the spirit of Hitch's teachings continue to live on in rational citizens as his words forever echo in the broken ramparts of the houses of god.
Hitchens's Razor does NOT work in this scenario. A man asserts he does't dream. Never dreamt since birth. All he knows is he slept and then he wakes up. Obviously, he cannot prove his dreamless sleep. Only he has knowledge of his dreamless sleep To dismissed his dreamless sleep since he was born. You must prove he'd experience dreams.
A joke told when I was a child (a while ago...): Elephants are masters at camouflage, they like to paint the bottoms of their feet and hide in mustard jars feet up. No elephant has ever been seen in a mustard jar, you say? Well, there you have it.
that about sums it up = it;s all a cosmic joke - pl note that only one letter alters cosmic to comic - case closed - do not worry ever again - laugh it off
It reminds me of a similar joke that involves elephants: A guy is walking around and keeps clapping his hands together. Another guy is wondering what it's about, walks up to the first guy and asks: "Why are you clapping your hands?" The first guy responds: "To keep away the elephants, of course!" Second: "But... there are no elephants here." First: "See! It's working!"
Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit: 1. 3:08 Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.” 2. 4:03 Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view. 3. 5:14 Do not accept arguments from Authority. 4. 6:19 Spin more than one hypothesis. 5. 7:17 Try not to get overly attached to hypothesis just because it's yours. 6. 10:05 Quantify. 7. 11:23 EVERY link in a chain of argument must work. 8. 12:13 Occam's Razor. 9. 14:03 Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Love the video. If you happen to see this comment even after 4 months, do add this in the description as then youtube will create chapters in the video based on timestamps, making it much easier to navigate and jump between parts for future reference. Others are welcome to like this comment for improved visibility for future skeptics.
Yep. Try the lies in the second half of this list, Eamanuel. ---> Have a look at one of the "923" videos in this pasted list and see if it rings true. If so, keep reading, watching and sharing. [ the "23" could indicate "2023", "2030" or "2039 ] 923 references in movies, TV & news items. 911 references included for comparison. >> 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 1 ua-cam.com/video/00d1TbFC6R4/v-deo.html 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 2 ua-cam.com/video/xdBBaukKqZs/v-deo.html 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 3 ua-cam.com/video/2pKmWBsgFOk/v-deo.html 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 4 ua-cam.com/video/H0ftAxKXZ9U/v-deo.html Beast 923 (2:27) ua-cam.com/video/1d9cCmyNC2I/v-deo.html Death Note 239 (1:25) ua-cam.com/video/qI7HFl2QtGU/v-deo.html How It Ends / 623 (1:36) ua-cam.com/video/Slq8EgCK03Q/v-deo.html 911: 9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (12:54) ua-cam.com/video/cKFUeGbu_Zc/v-deo.html 9/11 predicted in CARTOONS | CODE 911 (14:13) ua-cam.com/video/rsxsaLNjBkE/v-deo.html 9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (7:56) ua-cam.com/video/QRb4oECWZlM/v-deo.html --- We've been told many times this year that this will be the "darkest winter": Joe Biden: ua-cam.com/video/lXK2KsIlmuc/v-deo.html Richard Bright, so-called immunologist whistle-blower: ua-cam.com/video/YnYQ9V-XErs/v-deo.html Jeremy Jurgens and Klauss Schwabb of the World Economic Forum ua-cam.com/video/tSuCuoQxI20/v-deo.html If those high rankers are saying it then we can be sure it will happen. --- Explanation: The Great Reset is wiping our way of life off the face of the earth and installing an overtly tyrannical rulership. If you google "Georgia Guidstones" and kind of read between the lines you will get an idea of how comprehensive it is. 911 was the start, Covid is the continuation, and dictatorial authority and global nuclear war are the final acts of the takeover. Deep State have put their plans for us into the movies, tv and news for many decades. The above pasted list also has a few 911 references so we can see how they tell us what they're gonna do, then they do it. We all know 911 was done by the US gov, not Arabs in a cave. They've been telling us about 923 (probably September 2023) at least since 1986 (movie Labyrinth with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly). I can only assume that the nukes will fly then. Be aware that some of the 923 references are obvious, others are obscure. For example, the letter "I" ("I" for India) is the ninth (9th) letter of the English alphabet so is another reference to "9". Also, the number "1" (one) looks like an "I" so it is sometimes used along with "23" to indicate "923" - this technique is used in the introduction to "The Simpsons". Other variations use a "6" as an upside down "9", and various combinations of the digits such as 239, 329, etc. Stock up on B Vitamins (B for Brain). B supplements are necessary for us to handle stress. This stuff can be scary at first. But after 3 months you will be very calm again. Go through the list then pass it on to loved ones so they can be at least mentally prepared. These 923 videos are telling us about a significant event (probably nuclear war) in the future. To see what they have done in the past, copy and save the list below in a Notepad document for future reference. It explains A LOT of things about the world and how it works. I RECOMMEND YOU TO DOWNLOAD ALL THESE VIDEOS AS UA-cam IS CENSORING TRUTH A LOT NOW. THESE VIDEOS COULD DISAPPEAR ANY TIME. >>> Film Your Hospital, proving Covid is a lie - www.bitchute.com/video/c4XNOEN1ULHY/ (24m29s) Back to the Future predicts 9/11, demonstrating that the towers were built in the 60's to be demolished in 2001: ua-cam.com/video/P1ULjJ3EqyY/v-deo.html (12m41s) 9/11 - Inside Job ua-cam.com/video/lKO5t3rcIZU/v-deo.html (1hr10m) California Fires - hi tech beam weapon arson (John Knox video) www.brighteon.com/5817646400001 (3m28s) Apollo Moon landing - hoax ua-cam.com/video/xciCJfbTvE4/v-deo.html (47m) ISS footage - hoax ua-cam.com/video/x6XeELc3QH8/v-deo.html (17m50s) Mars Rover - hoax ua-cam.com/video/gQKnUJTQicA/v-deo.html (7m) Shootings - hoaxes, some real but done by gov sharp shooters theferalirishman.blogspot.com/2019/03/another-shooting-hoax.html Bombings - hoaxes www.dailymotion.com/video/x1t7kn1 In Plane Sight - Dave Von Kleist, showing Oklahoma City bombing was NOT a fertilzer bomb: ua-cam.com/video/GG_21okkgco/v-deo.html You may have trouble convincing friends and family of these things. The TV is too powerful a mind control tool to be overcome by facts. Yuri Bezmenov said it perfectly "When a military boot crushes his balls, THEN he will understand but not before that. That is the tragedy of this situation" ua-cam.com/video/IQPsKvG6WMI/v-deo.html (6m49s) [or ua-cam.com/video/QfvXwuZ-bok/v-deo.html 26m05s] "[the Illuminati] are instrumental in the process of subversion, only to destablize the nations. When their job is completed they are not needed anymore. They know too much. When they see [others] come to power, obviously they get offended. They think that THEY will come to power. That will never happen of course. THEY WILL BE LINED UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOT." [Their lavish bunkers are booby-trapped to seal them permanently inside]
@@butterskywalker8785 Is that your way of telling me to not lift you out of your sandbox? Play in there a little longer Butter. I'll call you when its dinner time.
Come to think on it, this has always amused me, Just being able to think doesn't mean you can achieve proper answers from poor deductions. My advice: Doubt everything, work up from there. But with that sort of thinking, someone has to teach you WHAT to think as a baseline. Who'd thunk it? Me, of course. In my case, I read a lot of books, took what I needed and discarded the opinions. On the other hand, that does include an entire encyclopedia so YMMV.
@Zealous: Yes, Carl Sagan was one of the true giants of science in context to his unrelenting criticism of what many scientists and all of the government, school systems. media, and truth distorters spewed out as scientific fact. "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof" was the bar that most could not meet. However, Sagan is not resting in peace. Although he was wise enough to know that at apparent face value science and religion are mutually exclusive to each other. Religion is founded strictly on faith and belief whereas science is founded on proof only of physical manifestations or non-physical phenomena which could be measured. Sagan's difficulty was that he was SO SKEPTICAL that it overrode his ability TO HAVE FAITH in anything that wasn't physically or observationally tangible or measurable. I grieve for Carl Sagan. It was his check list for proof of science to establish my proof for God's existence.
@@glennmiller9768 what?! There is no such thing as too skeptical. Faith is believe without proof, which is like building a foundation of wet paper and soap bubbles. To be discouraged.
Much of what he believed about the stars now rests in pieces. In particular about exoplanets, started to fall apart when he was barely cold in the grave
Excellent summary, with great explanations. I am ashamed to say I only discovered (or at least re-discovered, may've forgotten, dementia seems ever closer) Carl Sagan's rules when researching a recent video. Some wonderful lessons there, but at least a couple feel a little unprepared for the way the internet has developed and how (mis)information is exchanged. The Sagan method works if people are genuinely interested in getting to the truth.
Good arguments, the part about feeling personally attack when our believes are challenged is so true, no matter the nature of the believes. Also, feeling bad is not a good reason not to challenge them
I remember as a young isolated country nerd I thought the first gen Bill Nye kids would grow to be an army of super nerdy rationalists... I was wroooong.
They're just like the Khergabletz (or however its spelled) kids, who watched one video on quantum mechanics, and now act like super 300 iq geniuses. Dunning kreuger and all.
Excellent video. Occam’s razor is a probability heuristic, it is not an argument. When used as justification either for or against an argument, it has wandered into logical fallacy territory.
@@debunkingdonkey6098 how would you generally define "simple" or count assumptions? That always depends on what framework you use to express stuff. And even if you assume one it's not computable.
@@debunkingdonkey6098 heuristic in that case just means "unrealiable". The unreliability follows from the uncompurability of "simple" in the general case. How I would define heuristic: A meassure wich can be conputed quicker than a "perfect" solution, but is still "good enough" for certain use-cases where "perfection" is not needed.
@@debunkingdonkey6098 because it uses "simple" and "short" wich both are neither absolute nor computable. Also ocams razor never makes any statement about "truth" as its only applied to select from 2 (or more) models wich either produce the same observables, or wich both fit the know data equally well. It just states wich model is propably more usefull.
Just finished reading it. As someone born in 1996 (the year it was written and also the year he passed) It blew me away how many of the societal issues mentioned had a direct impact on my upbringing. How i wish someone in my life exposed me to these ideas and kept me away from the tv screen growing up. Nonetheless I am the master of my fate today and i’m eternally grateful for figures like sagan who opened the doors for me.
Thanks. There is a basic idea that the average 'person on the street' gets wrong. And I grant you that they have a whole lot of help in doing so, from the press (many of whom know better), and even from some scientists who simply fail (or don't even try) to communicate effectively. That idea is this: science is not a collection of 'stuff we know'. It's a process by which we eliminate wrong answers. It's the same notion as saying that in a person's life, they strive for perfection. They know they'll never actually reach some final state of perfect being, but the effort is what's important. By utilizing the scientific method, we separate out the wrong answers. It is thus that we come ever closer to some set of correct ideas. But we will never, ever, "know everything." It's just not possible. Skepticism, logic, reason, and critical thinking are tools we must each use to arrive at a better answer than we had yesterday. That's the best we can do. And it's given us the most reliable body of workable concepts on Earth. Just keep in mind that no answer is final. tavi.
15:40: Thing though is, this is possible. With enough Power; let alone 'All the Power', this is absolutely possible. Thats why i always laugh about Atheists who claim they 'know' God doesnt exist, cause thats literally and most literally just the other side of the spectrum of toxic Religious believe. Being a Toxic Atheist aint a bit better than being a toxic Believer. Its dumb to talk like you know that God does or does not exist; BOTH. No one has or can yet 'disprove/debunk' God, as someone allegedly so powerful cannot be disproven. Everyone who states they know the Secrets of the Universe, REGARDLESS what exactly they claim these Secrets are, know nothing for real. So yeah, whetever its Aliens or Gods or even something else: That Earth is just 5 Minutes old and all Memorys are just Fabricated is totally possibly.
@@slevinchannel7589 Gods, unicorns, pixies etc. what's the difference. I'm atheistic to them all. Apart from anything else I'm just too lazy to be bothered with any of it. Seems to me that all any of it does, is cause trouble. Keep well all. :)
@@Graeme_Lastname Dude, coparing Unicorns to God is very, very immature. I'm surprised to find someone so uneducated on this channel. Mind how this UA-camr would never ever make such sluggish, immature Comparison. Honestly, youre 'It all seems the same to me' reeks of being so uneducated that you of course get confused by these consepts and topics. Thats a You-Problem, not a Problem with anyone else.
@@Graeme_Lastname Mind how this UA-camr would never ever make such sluggish, immature Comparison. Honestly, youre 'It all seems the same to me' reeks of being so uneducated that you of course get confused by these consepts and topics. Thats a You-Problem, not a Problem with anyone else.
My wife (bless her heart) often says to me "everyone is talking about X being because of Z on Facebook. Has to be something to it!". I regularly reply, "Check it out for yourself. Don't be drawn in. And please don't add to it before you do." But that's what is happening with mass media; social and otherwise. Someone makes a connection that appears true but is deeply, and sometimes offensively, flawed, yet, because the conclusion matches the feelings of a large group it is transmitted as truth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum Sounds like she's fallen for the Appeal to the People fallacy. A classic counterargument to this is the "Well, would you jump off a cliff if everyone else is doing it too?"
This social media effect is exactly what team Trump is banking on by creating legal cases out of thin air regarding the election. Even despite overwhelming losses, people say, "Well, there must be something to it. Why would anyone go through all that trouble?"
Yeah Ash, but who knows truth? With NASA meaning "deceive" in Hebrew, and all the fakery of ISS being filmed on earth (you can see the cables in some shots) most so-called scientists are not worth a scientist's boot lace. Check out my list of evidence; its the second part of the pasted list below - after the 923 info. ---> Have a look at one of the "923" videos in this pasted list and see if it rings true. If so, keep reading, watching and sharing. [ the "23" could indicate "2023", "2030" or "2039 ] 923 references in movies, TV & news items. 911 references included for comparison. >> 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 1 ua-cam.com/video/00d1TbFC6R4/v-deo.html 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 2 ua-cam.com/video/xdBBaukKqZs/v-deo.html 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 3 ua-cam.com/video/2pKmWBsgFOk/v-deo.html 9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 4 ua-cam.com/video/H0ftAxKXZ9U/v-deo.html Beast 923 (2:27) ua-cam.com/video/1d9cCmyNC2I/v-deo.html Death Note 239 (1:25) ua-cam.com/video/qI7HFl2QtGU/v-deo.html How It Ends / 623 (1:36) ua-cam.com/video/Slq8EgCK03Q/v-deo.html 911: 9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (12:54) ua-cam.com/video/cKFUeGbu_Zc/v-deo.html 9/11 predicted in CARTOONS | CODE 911 (14:13) ua-cam.com/video/rsxsaLNjBkE/v-deo.html 9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (7:56) ua-cam.com/video/QRb4oECWZlM/v-deo.html --- We've been told many times this year that this will be the "darkest winter": Joe Biden: ua-cam.com/video/lXK2KsIlmuc/v-deo.html Richard Bright, so-called immunologist whistle-blower: ua-cam.com/video/YnYQ9V-XErs/v-deo.html Jeremy Jurgens and Klauss Schwabb of the World Economic Forum ua-cam.com/video/tSuCuoQxI20/v-deo.html If those high rankers are saying it then we can be sure it will happen. --- Explanation: The Great Reset is wiping our way of life off the face of the earth and installing an overtly tyrannical rulership. If you google "Georgia Guidstones" and kind of read between the lines you will get an idea of how comprehensive it is. 911 was the start, Covid is the continuation, and dictatorial authority and global nuclear war are the final acts of the takeover. Deep State have put their plans for us into the movies, tv and news for many decades. The above pasted list also has a few 911 references so we can see how they tell us what they're gonna do, then they do it. We all know 911 was done by the US gov, not Arabs in a cave. They've been telling us about 923 (probably September 2023) at least since 1986 (movie Labyrinth with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly). I can only assume that the nukes will fly then. Be aware that some of the 923 references are obvious, others are obscure. For example, the letter "I" ("I" for India) is the ninth (9th) letter of the English alphabet so is another reference to "9". Also, the number "1" (one) looks like an "I" so it is sometimes used along with "23" to indicate "923" - this technique is used in the introduction to "The Simpsons". Other variations use a "6" as an upside down "9", and various combinations of the digits such as 239, 329, etc. Stock up on B Vitamins (B for Brain). B supplements are necessary for us to handle stress. This stuff can be scary at first. But after 3 months you will be very calm again. Go through the list then pass it on to loved ones so they can be at least mentally prepared. These 923 videos are telling us about a significant event (probably nuclear war) in the future. To see what they have done in the past, copy and save the list below in a Notepad document for future reference. It explains A LOT of things about the world and how it works. I RECOMMEND YOU TO DOWNLOAD ALL THESE VIDEOS AS UA-cam IS CENSORING TRUTH A LOT NOW. THESE VIDEOS COULD DISAPPEAR ANY TIME. >>> Film Your Hospital, proving Covid is a lie - www.bitchute.com/video/c4XNOEN1ULHY/ (24m29s) Back to the Future predicts 9/11, demonstrating that the towers were built in the 60's to be demolished in 2001: ua-cam.com/video/P1ULjJ3EqyY/v-deo.html (12m41s) 9/11 - Inside Job ua-cam.com/video/lKO5t3rcIZU/v-deo.html (1hr10m) California Fires - hi tech beam weapon arson (John Knox video) www.brighteon.com/5817646400001 (3m28s) Apollo Moon landing - hoax ua-cam.com/video/xciCJfbTvE4/v-deo.html (47m) ISS footage - hoax ua-cam.com/video/x6XeELc3QH8/v-deo.html (17m50s) Mars Rover - hoax ua-cam.com/video/gQKnUJTQicA/v-deo.html (7m) Shootings - hoaxes, some real but done by gov sharp shooters theferalirishman.blogspot.com/2019/03/another-shooting-hoax.html Bombings - hoaxes www.dailymotion.com/video/x1t7kn1 In Plane Sight - Dave Von Kleist, showing Oklahoma City bombing was NOT a fertilzer bomb: ua-cam.com/video/GG_21okkgco/v-deo.html You may have trouble convincing friends and family of these things. The TV is too powerful a mind control tool to be overcome by facts. Yuri Bezmenov said it perfectly "When a military boot crushes his balls, THEN he will understand but not before that. That is the tragedy of this situation" ua-cam.com/video/IQPsKvG6WMI/v-deo.html (6m49s) [or ua-cam.com/video/QfvXwuZ-bok/v-deo.html 26m05s] "[the Illuminati] are instrumental in the process of subversion, only to destablize the nations. When their job is completed they are not needed anymore. They know too much. When they see [others] come to power, obviously they get offended. They think that THEY will come to power. That will never happen of course. THEY WILL BE LINED UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOT." [Their lavish bunkers are booby-trapped to seal them permanently inside]
This is highly improbable because most of the time particles have no exact energy levels, positions, and momenta due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
@@firstaidsack While I'm sure there's a way to make it logically coherent, the situation is even worse than you say. Modern physics in my understanding doesn't allow for those to all be true, ever, if we're being precise. The underlying reality doesn't even contain individual particles. However, it might be easier to make a model like that fit the evidence than to do the same with a Flat Earth.
Love seeing this kind of content still on atheist youtube. Helping folks deal with all kinds of irrational thought or thinking that tends towards what is not reliable
if you actually research the bible you will find that gods word is true and never fails. it is a book which accuratly predicts the future. if something seems nonsensical in the bible, its just because you dont understand it.
@@BlurpGooDiJabba thats a bit of special pleading there. The Bibles predictions and historical record dont match up. The Exodus has no historical or archeological evidence. Youd figure over 1 million people migrating in a caravan to Canaan would have plenty of archeological findings. It doesnt. Despite well funded attempts. The book of Daniel is filled with historical inaccuracies. The Bible is even inaccurate when quoting itself. For instance Jesus quote an Old Testament text but theres no record of that text. Im sorry but your statement doesnt hold any water I used to preach for many years and studied the bible for a while too. There came a point however that the more i dug under the surface of the text, went into its historicity, and studied how the canon came to be including early christology, i found the Bible simply couldnt be the word of an inerrant, holy, and all powerful being.
@@philswaim392 on the surface it might seem that way but there are always reasons for the text to be written the way it is. We modern readers put our modern glasses on and read it with our modern ideas and our language and we dont understand it because of our own fallibility, we read metaphorical things literally and we take metaphors (like adam and eve eating an apple) literally.
It's fantastic Sagan is being remembered by the younger gen (I'm 60ish). DHW is my favorite book also (along with Michael Shermer's " Why People Believe Weird Things"). It seems that I have to keep my Baloney Detection Kit on standby on a daily basis these days.
When I was very young I considered myself an expert in my field although I had so much wrong without realizing it. Now that I've been at it for over sixty years I realize how little I know. The more I learn the more I realize I have left to learn, more than I can possibly learn in a lifetime.
@@sandal_thong people who are atheist can absolutely apply AA rules and not need to use the whole God thing. But AA has been shown to be no more effective than any other method. If it works for you, great, but people kicking the habit on their own with other friends eing support can be just as successful
@@sandal_thong AA is just bogus nonsense. It's a way for people with a history of bad choices to continue to have friends despite those bad choices. That's the benefit it has. Nothing more. It's a cult that's at least trying to help people. And succeeding in some cases.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” --- François-Marie Arouet “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe anything because it s found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept and live up to it.” --- Buddha Siddhartha Gautama Shakyamuni
@@BlurpGooDiJabba You mean the one where Tyre will be destroyed and never rebuilt? (Ezekiel 26:7-14) Or perhaps you are referring to the one where Egypt will be completely uninhabited for forty years. (Ezekiel 29:10-11) Or it might be that you mean the one where the Kingdom of God will be established while some listening to Jesus speak are still alive. I could go on, but you will never have ears to hear what you don't want to hear, Mr. Jabba.
@@hisxmark Yeah, BlurpGooDiJabba is fitting his findings to his beliefs, rather than the other way around...a common mistake among religious/spiritual people.
I love point #5 since I had a personal run in with that during my passion project as a clinical research fellow. What began as youthful enthusiasm for figuring out a way to see who's most at risk for opioid addiction, later turned into stoic respect for why no such screening tool has been validated yet. I had to lay aside my pride from simply putting a wing and a prayer into my hunches, but instead had to identify all of the logistical, systemic, and knowledge barriers of why such studies are so difficult to perform. It turned out that I had to learn as much about how opioid addiction is different from opioid dependence and chronic pain from a neuroscientific, epidemiological, and psychiatric standpoint. But after this whole ordeal of letting go of my original misconceptions, I learned a heck of a lot along the way and ended up with a much more realistic study protocol.
Just about. There’s a few that relax me. One, being Carl Sagan, another is Sam Harris and also Christopher Hitchens. All of these men are easy to listen to on the tone of their voices alone.
My dad had similar dreams about the internet. He loved computers, and was thrilled at the idea of being able to put so much information and knowledge in one place where anyone at all could access it. He was a dreamer, much like you. If only it could have been true.
I miss Carl Sagan. Watching "Cosmos" on TV when it aired in 1980 while in High School was a great experience, as was David Attenborough's "Life on Earth" around a similar time, both of which enhanced academia for me and left an indelible impression. A brilliant man.
15:40: Thing though is, this is possible. With enough Power; let alone 'All the Power', this is absolutely possible. Thats why i always laugh about Atheists who claim they 'know' God doesnt exist, cause thats literally and most literally just the other side of the spectrum of toxic Religious believe. Being a Toxic Atheist aint a bit better than being a toxic Believer. Its dumb to talk like you know that God does or does not exist; BOTH. No one has or can yet 'disprove/debunk' God, as someone allegedly so powerful cannot be disproven. Everyone who states they know the Secrets of the Universe, REGARDLESS what exactly they claim these Secrets are, know nothing for real. So yeah, whetever its Aliens or Gods or even something else: That Earth is just 5 Minutes old and all Memorys are just Fabricated is totally possibly. Dont get me wrong, i dont disagree with this Video or even the Statements around 15:00. I was just put off by this one example with the Memorys; cause yeah, Memorys can be faked... and also, i find people ridiculous who claim they can 'prove' God does not exist.
@@slevinchannel7589 I'm nearly sure Santa Claus doesn't exist, at least as the literalist interpretation with regard to the 19th century poem "A Visit from St. Nicholas" and imagery drawn by Thomas Nast. But I can't prove there's not a supernatural being that helps at least one kind child every year. I liked the show _Joan of Arcadia_ where a god (God?) asks Joan to help one person a week. I can't prove there's not a minor deity that knows a lot, but only helps a few people every week through his/her followers.
One pervasive habit that I have noticed particularly in hobby circles is the propensity to discard (or even prevent the collection of) data before it's even been analyzed. They just say, "That won't show anything" without any basis. You don't discard data *before* analyzing it.
We can judge our progress by the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers, our willingness to embrace what is true rather than what feels good. Carl Sagan
I loved Carl Sagan as a kid growing up.on African. This clip video of him almost made me cry. Amazing insight. Because of Sagan I always entertain the possibility I could be wrong allowing me to other points of view. I am open to change my mind with overwhelming evidence.
Here's a quick reference for those who want to look up specific Sagan Tools: 1. 3:09 - Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the "facts." 2. 4:04 - Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view. 3. 5:14 - Do not accept arguments from authority. 4. 6:19 - Spin more than one hypothesis. 5. 7:17 - Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours. 6. 10:06 - Quantify. 7. 11:23 - If there's a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) - not just most of them. 8. 12:13 - Occam's Razor. (a scientific and philosophical rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily, which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex, or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities) 9. 14:03 - Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. (Scientific falsifiability/refutability: the capacity for a statement, theory or hypothesis to be contradicted by evidence.) I hope this helps others.
Here's something that a lot of people do not understand, math is just a language. an excellent and accurate language for analyzing phenomena, but just a language. Mistakes can also be made in the mathematical language. The fact that the equation is mathematically correct does not mean that the idea derived from it is indeed valid for reality.
@@Graeme_Lastname In some cases yes, but not in all. Mathematics reflects the laws we have drawn about the world. There are assumptions, from which logically disassemble and assemble in different ways to draw conclusions. But nothing guarantees that your assumptions are accurate enough. It is entirely possible that the mathematics will be syntactically perfect but the conclusion will not be valid
"Why are we supposed to trust you?" -Benny "I'll tell you using a universal language." -Queen Watevra Wa'nabi "Is it Math?" -Unikitty LEGO Movie 2 ua-cam.com/video/OIvW2tSjfXk/v-deo.html
Another great video. And I also wanted to call out how beautiful your lighting set-up is the and quality of video. The shallow depth of field, the blue accent light on your right, your warm, full key light - it’s all really well done. It is simply too-tier and would fit perfectly in a high end Nova documentary. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a great 2021!
Thank you! I’ve struggled to get my lighting just how I want it because I’m very white and easy to over expose lol. I’m really happy with how this one turned out.
Sagan is still one of my favorite people to ever live, even if i never knew him personally. I went to a bible academy instead of public school. Started it around the 7th grade. There was no science course. The academy skipped it altogether. What i have learned about the Cosmos, and about nature itself, started because of him. It wasn't just the Cosmos series of his that got me interested in learning about the Cosmos, it was him and the way he taught. My favorite quote of his is "Intellectual genius is no guarantee against being dead wrong." I think it is a good quote to keep in mind, especially when there is an argument from authority.
Just started watching and immediately had to comment: I love the new look. The hair and 5 o’clock shadow really suit you! Okay, back to the content, the most important part of course!
@@spiralithil I do plan to in the future when I can take a chunk of time off work again. I’m doubly busy with personal obligations this past year as a caregiver for a parent who is palliative and needs lots of care. Not much time for me to create detailed work products. But I am on Twitter under this handle and am still regular there. Cheers!
Great video, I read the demon haunted world many years ago and it was a great book. It was cool from my perspective as I had been using much of his approach without having language to describe it formally. Keep up the great work!
Despite being religious myself, I find myself coming back to this channel from time to time. I appreciate the rational mindset you present, even if it doesn't entirely align with my own beliefs. I'm often mistaken as an atheist by people who know me, given that I study biotechnology, frequent death metal concerts and hold left-leaning ideals. But truth be told, I wish there were more religious people making content like this about rational thinking. My best guess is that rational religion doesn't sell, whereas rational atheism does. I think that says more about the average person who believes in God rather than the existence of divinity itself. Who knows? All in all, I genuinely admire your admission of your own biases and ability to challenge people like me to critically think about what I think and believe. Keep up the good work!
I think your onto something here bro. Also ya im not an athiest either, but agree that rationalism and belief are not mutually exclusive, and i love this channel for giving me a mirror to check myself
@@AUA-camCommentator I know, he thought he was God. That's the problem with tyrants. They understand religion deeply, they use the symbology, subvert it, then replace all reference to deity with them. Then, they have everybody worship them.
Nice summary. However I have a remark concerning Occam's Razor: 12:38 "In practice this means tossing out hypotheses which explain the data in a way which is more complicated than necessary" this can be misleading. Someone may think that the explanation of a sun carried by birds across the sky is less complicated than motions caused by spacetime curvature. Occam's Razor simplifies assumptions, not explanations.
FANTASTIC interpretation and breakdown of Carl Sagan's TDHW! Just... absolutely wonderful. :) I'll be sharing this video as much as I can, as... I've done some of my own V.O. (voice-over) homages to Sagan's work. Specifically, "Humility" and "Pale Blue Dot".
man, i've checked you out for a while... this is my fav book too. i had already left my religious thinking when i read it, but i was made fully awake by this book.
I shared this along with my short thoughts: Please do not be afraid to update your beliefs...on anything. It isn't something we should fear. Embrace working towards the truth.🖤 This video is great and much needed. Dr. Sagan would be proud of you.
Drew's example at 14:57 is also an opportunity to showcase Occam's Razor in action as well. Notice how when explaining things with a new counter that can't be proven false, it's adding yet ANOTHER assumption that Occam's Razor doesn't like.
One of my favourite quotes from a book, “People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.” ― Terry Goodkind, Wizard's First Rule
I still don't understand why this isn't taught in every school. I'm not talking about this exact method, but about scientific skepticism in general, about logical fallacies, cognitive biases, illusions and other weaknesses of the mind. How are people supposed to understand that a method is needed when they don't understand how many mistakes we make without and even with a method? Everyone should have encountered a course in scientific skepticism, the scientific method, logical fallacies and research methods at least once in their education. It's astonishing how few people use or even know about those things. And some think they know when in reality they've never consciously practiced those habits. This isn't something you hear once and then you're immune to nonsense. This is something that is difficult and requires practice. This is a constant struggle against your feelings, instincts and impulses.
From my experiences, people don't encounter classes that teach these things in detail until around college (at least where i live in the US). And i agree, it's shameful.
Because truly independent thought requires minds to be completely free to question & challenge all ideas & assumptions ... like the assumption that your particular country and/or culture is automatically, inevitably the best one possible (a particularly common one here in the US). Critical thinking skills are indeed invaluable to those wishing to protect themselves from bias, superstition & misinformation -- but when young minds are equipped w/ such tools they are viewed as an active threat to entrenched powers who want nothing more than to maintain control over our systems of economy, government & communication. ANY voiced opposition to the status quo, no matter how slight or reasoned, must be silenced or otherwise derided so much as to discourage others from even considering different points of view. One of my favorite episodes of The Simpsons is "Lisa The Vegetarian" -- in which young Lisa Simpson, after yrs of happily eating meat w/o concern, finally makes the logical connection in her mind between meat consumption & animal slaughter at the dinner table after the Simpson family visited a petting zoo ... & the realization is so emotionally traumatic that Lisa declares she can never eat meat again. Afterward, Lisa can't help but notice the very pro-meat orientation of both the school Health Class curriculum as well as the cafeteria student lunch program ... & when she voices her discomfort & opposition to this clear bias, the adult authority figures quietly press a button labeled "Independent Thought Alarm" to warn Principal Skinner that Lisa is becoming a "problem student" by openly challenging school policy. In response, Skinner calls in a livestock / food industry spokesperson to give a presentation to expound the virtues of meat consumption by showing an "educational film" -- which Lisa rightly calls out as nothing more than corporate propaganda. It doesn't take a genius to see why the livestock industry has a vested interest in dictating & influencing the policy of the USDA & public school health education programs: if enough kids grow up vegan or vegetarian, the livestock industry as we know it would cease to exist. We can't have that -- just think of all the poor meat corporation executives!
This was really great. If I didn't already agree 99.99% with you on every point in this one, I believe I'd find your well chosen words most persuasive. Have a great new year Drew
Maybe a little late, but here, have the timestamps: 1- 3:09 "wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the "facts"" 2- 4:04 "encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view" 3- 5:15 "do not accept arguments from authority" 4- 6:20 "spin more than one hypotesis" 5- 7:22 "try not to get overly attached to a hypotesis just because it's yours" 6- 10:05 "quantify" 7- 11:22 "if there's a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work, not just most of them" 8- 12:13 "Occam's razor" 9- 14:09 "always ask wether the hypostesis can be falsified"
Just India? Come to Portugal and I'll show you stupidity. Kissing statues in middle of pandemic for covid protecrion, but no mask (those are bad for you) and the vaccine is a chip for the hew control of the world. Worst is that about 90 % of the population finishes high-school and the curriculum is not bad.
I believe it was Theodore Sturgeon who said that 90% of everything is crap. This certainly applies to the internet. Baloney-detection is needed constantly.
The hurdle for science is that it does not innately tie itself to any culture. You cannot say science is anymore "Christian" than it is "Arabic" or "Muslim" or "Buddhist". Cultures survive by designing themselves with defensive measures against ideas that are universal, but also contradict their own beliefs. In essence, a lot of this is a systemic problem. You yourself might think you can make a difference, but the truth is we have to change society to change religion.
Voltaire said that the bible will be erase from the world...but some years after his death his house was used to print bibles...now still the bible is the most selling book in the world.....
History repeats, or rhymes, rationality, specifically state sponsored terror will be used to create mass panic and fear, such that mass atrocities are inevitable, as long as we are purely rational. To be irrational, is to not be moved by fear/greed or mass hysteria when everybody around you is losing their minds. Contagion is rational. It is built into us.
Important note for your many premises point- this isn't always true. For example, if someone holds a belief on the basis of two arguments, and the falsification of one doesn't necessitate the falsehood of the other, then one argument being proven untrue wouldn't dismantle the whole belief. You hinted at this slightly when you mentioned the arguments being chained together, but I think it's important to stress. Otherwise, this is committing a fallacy fallacy, which hastily assumes that an entire argument is invalid just because of one or more fallacies.
I got Sagan's book (This Demon Haunted World) out of the local library and read the whole thing. It was a very good book. Before returning it I scanned the Baloney Detection chapter and now have permanent copy! : - )
Sad I admit but I find it amusing watching their incredible displays of perverse logic. Much fun to be had here as they are destroyed ua-cam.com/users/SciManDanvideos
I totally agree Wesley. But I weep even more that so much of the world's educated population are themselves deluded into believing similar absurdities. For example, try explaining to someone that the International Space Station footage is filmed in a studio on earth (you can see the cables in some shots) and its like you've attacked a religious icon. See for yourself bro. ISS footage - hoax ua-cam.com/video/x6XeELc3QH8/v-deo.html (17m50s)
0:50 - so basically the Imperial Truth from 40k? "The teacher comes to point the way and the students end up worshiping the pointer." - An old saying, often attributed to Buddha [note If he actually said it, that's all the more ironic, considering that many worship the Buddha as a god, while his teachings never suggest that he was divine. ]
Nicely thorough yet succinct. "The Demon Haunted World - Science as a Candle in the Dark" is an outstanding read - inspiring, frightening, and thoroughly rewarding. I love most of his books, but this one, sadly his last, is very special.
Very clear and helpful explanation. I also appreciate the candor and lack of tendentiousness, which is enhanced further by a compassionate and empathetic outlook, even towards who disagree with some of his conclusions. I have recommended these videos to several people who are confused about how to approach some of these issues.
Well outside of technology, we've been living for more than 2k+ years, so by now we have enough Knowledge we should be able to live and exist peacefully. But hay that's a flaw of man.
That's the major problem these days - people who most need to be more diversely informed are the ones who will wear out the block button until they are so entrenched in their own bias that there is no way out. There is no seeking truth for people who are certain they already know it.
#5 is the reason religions will (most likely) always exist. I know many folks think it's the fear of fire, brimstone, and ever lasting torment that keeps them glued to their religious beliefs...but I completely disagree. It's the hope of life after death, of seeing their loved ones again, that is the bond. No matter how much science tries to steer the culture in a different direction, as long as their is death, religions will always exist. It's human nature. No amount of rationality will change that.
When speaking of data, I might nitpick that we should seek versilimitude, not Truth....Truth is an abstract, and therefore suspect. Other than that, yes....more people should read Sagan. Absolutely!
@@Graeme_Lastname indeed, and therefore an abstract perfection. In the real world, versilimitude is the best we can do. There's always error in every measurement. To say we have Truth is arrogance. But we should approach as close as possible, knowing it is impossible to achieve. Truth belongs in the realm of philosophy and religion. Versilimitude is the realm of science.
Your dispassionate, yet sympathetic approach to any discussion is commendable... I wish everyone on any side of an argument could exhibit the aforementioned characteristics (we might be better as a species for it)
IMO Sagan's rules are out-dated. They call for an approach which cannot stand up to the world of "alternative facts", the relegation of "fact-checkers" to a null role in debate so that they can safely be ignored, the view that the workings of logic and education are evidence of conspiracy and nefarious purpose, and the determination that criticism of any sort is oppressive censorship. Sagan's suggestions operate well in the marketplace of ideas, but when lies and falsehoods are given the same or more weight than actual ideas, the marketplace becomes an arena.
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I’m going to guess (tongue in cheek) that Sagan had billions of things to say about it.
But there is bon mot in the same vein, “A man said to the universe, ‘Sir I exist!’ to which the universe replaced, ‘that does instill in me a sense of obligation’ “
Wait do you believe in god or jesus you know that the bible predicted the thing s that happened
I just finished a 10 page article on this book and in particular the bologna detection kit! Great Job!! Thanks Drew!
If you truly want to know the Truth, do these four simple steps. Forgive your parents, brake down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read the Bible. There's deep spiritual significance in these steps. After doing them sincerely, God gives you a Divine Revelation. I'm not talking about fuzzy feelings, signs, or talking to yourself, but an actual honest to goodness conversation between you, and God. These steps are the mustard seed of Faith God wants to see from us. He won't reveal himself until you do them guininly. Don't believe me, nor anyone else, do these steps and get the Truth for yourself. I can say with absolute certainly that they work 100% of the time. You just have to be guinine, it's not hard, you will know if you're not, and so will God. If you're seriously interested in the Truth, this is the pathway to it. There's actually very important reasons everything is set up this way, and why Faith is key. God will inform you directly after you do these steps, explaining everything you need to know personally. Very serious here. An actual one on one conversation. Not feelings, not signs, not anything you're going to misinterpret. An extremely real event. You see, Faith is important because it's something we can all find inside of ourselves. It doesn't matter how smart you are, how much money you have, or weather or not you're imprisoned. You can always Hope. This is why it's the only way to God. Forgiveness trips up most people, especially Christans. People just don't find it easy, it hurts us a bit. That's why it's the most important step. To be forgiven, we must forgive. It's all over the Bible. But most people never bother reading it, let alone actually doing the work God gives us. You see, all sin is unforgivable to God, that's why he has Grace, because he's still willing to forgive us, especially when we can't bring ourselves to forgive ourselves. But he wants us to follow his example. Jesus explained this in Matthew, by parable. If we do not forgive what we think is unforgivable, God will not forgive us. This message is littered all thoughout the Bible, both old, and new testament. Most Christans, like 99%, only ever open their Bible in church, otherwise it's a paper weight, and sadly most churches don't emphasize the truly important message. Our problems with our parents are meant to represent our problems with God, this is why we all have them. Once we show the willingness to forgive their inadequacy, God pays closer attention to us. Before this step you're not saved, no matter how many times you go to church. This is why God stays at arm's length. Once you put in the inner work, showing this mustard seed of Faith, God rushes into your life in a very real way. I'm not talking about fuzzy feelings, signs, etc, but an actual, honest to goodness conversation between you, and God. No one else can do these steps for you. You have to do them for yourself. People may lie, say they did them, and nothing happened, but don't let their words sway you. Do these steps for yourself. I can say with absolute certainly that these steps work. You've just got to be guinine. It's not hard. You'll know if you're coming from the right place. Testing God only makes him hide himself. Be sinsere, do these four simple steps, and you'll be enlightened to so much you've blinded yourself to. There's so much you've allowed yourself to forget. Please, take your salvation seriously.
But how should a society decide things when the facts are unknown
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." (Hitchens's Razor)
Came here to say this, happy that someone else did it before me. May the spirit of Hitch's teachings continue to live on in rational citizens as his words forever echo in the broken ramparts of the houses of god.
That's really good
And useful in a really practical way
@@mack7207 Exactly. It keeps me from getting suckered into nonsense and dead-end "discussions".
Hitchens's Razor does NOT work in this scenario.
A man asserts he does't dream. Never dreamt since birth. All he knows is he slept and then he wakes up. Obviously, he cannot prove his dreamless sleep. Only he has knowledge of his dreamless sleep
To dismissed his dreamless sleep since he was born. You must prove he'd experience dreams.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
- possibly Mark Twain
Great one!
Trumpers. “There’s a fool born every minute” -PT Barnum
I believe almost every quote in existence is possibly by Mark Twain!
"If your girlfriend says, it's not you but her, it's definitely you" - Albert Einstein
@@mrcapybara3579 Oh come on, Twain had to have said that! :)
A joke told when I was a child (a while ago...):
Elephants are masters at camouflage, they like to paint the bottoms of their feet and hide in mustard jars feet up.
No elephant has ever been seen in a mustard jar, you say? Well, there you have it.
Lol, that's funny.
that about sums it up = it;s all a cosmic joke - pl note that only one letter alters cosmic to comic - case closed - do not worry ever again - laugh it off
No they paint their toenails red and hide in a strawberry field
I heard it as pink and purple polka-dotted elephants, but same, same
It reminds me of a similar joke that involves elephants:
A guy is walking around and keeps clapping his hands together.
Another guy is wondering what it's about, walks up to the first guy and asks: "Why are you clapping your hands?"
The first guy responds: "To keep away the elephants, of course!"
Second: "But... there are no elephants here."
First: "See! It's working!"
Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit:
1. 3:08 Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
2. 4:03 Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
3. 5:14 Do not accept arguments from Authority.
4. 6:19 Spin more than one hypothesis.
5. 7:17 Try not to get overly attached to hypothesis just because it's yours.
6. 10:05 Quantify.
7. 11:23 EVERY link in a chain of argument must work.
8. 12:13 Occam's Razor.
9. 14:03 Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified.
Love the video. If you happen to see this comment even after 4 months, do add this in the description as then youtube will create chapters in the video based on timestamps, making it much easier to navigate and jump between parts for future reference. Others are welcome to like this comment for improved visibility for future skeptics.
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Appreciate the effort 👍
Seeing the listing, my mother could benefit from all of these if she wasn't so stubborn
Thanks for the summary and timestamps!
I would add Hitchens' Razor: "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
"A lie can run round the world before the truth has got its boots on."
Terry Pratchett
Yep. Try the lies in the second half of this list, Eamanuel.
---> Have a look at one of the "923" videos in this pasted list and see if it rings true. If so, keep reading, watching and sharing.
[ the "23" could indicate "2023", "2030" or "2039 ]
923 references in movies, TV & news items. 911 references included for comparison. >>
9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 1
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9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 2
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9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 3
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9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 4
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Beast 923 (2:27)
ua-cam.com/video/1d9cCmyNC2I/v-deo.html
Death Note 239 (1:25)
ua-cam.com/video/qI7HFl2QtGU/v-deo.html
How It Ends / 623 (1:36)
ua-cam.com/video/Slq8EgCK03Q/v-deo.html
911:
9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (12:54)
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9/11 predicted in CARTOONS | CODE 911 (14:13)
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9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (7:56)
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We've been told many times this year that this will be the "darkest winter":
Joe Biden: ua-cam.com/video/lXK2KsIlmuc/v-deo.html
Richard Bright, so-called immunologist whistle-blower: ua-cam.com/video/YnYQ9V-XErs/v-deo.html
Jeremy Jurgens and Klauss Schwabb of the World Economic Forum ua-cam.com/video/tSuCuoQxI20/v-deo.html
If those high rankers are saying it then we can be sure it will happen.
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Explanation:
The Great Reset is wiping our way of life off the face of the earth and installing an overtly tyrannical rulership. If you google "Georgia Guidstones" and kind of read between the lines you will get an idea of how comprehensive it is. 911 was the start, Covid is the continuation, and dictatorial authority and global nuclear war are the final acts of the takeover.
Deep State have put their plans for us into the movies, tv and news for many decades. The above pasted list also has a few 911 references so we can see how they tell us what they're gonna do, then they do it. We all know 911 was done by the US gov, not Arabs in a cave.
They've been telling us about 923 (probably September 2023) at least since 1986 (movie Labyrinth with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly). I can only assume that the nukes will fly then.
Be aware that some of the 923 references are obvious, others are obscure. For example, the letter "I" ("I" for India) is the ninth (9th) letter of the English alphabet so is another reference to "9". Also, the number "1" (one) looks like an "I" so it is sometimes used along with "23" to indicate "923" - this technique is used in the introduction to "The Simpsons". Other variations use a "6" as an upside down "9", and various combinations of the digits such as 239, 329, etc.
Stock up on B Vitamins (B for Brain). B supplements are necessary for us to handle stress.
This stuff can be scary at first. But after 3 months you will be very calm again.
Go through the list then pass it on to loved ones so they can be at least mentally prepared. These 923 videos are telling us about a significant event (probably nuclear war) in the future.
To see what they have done in the past, copy and save the list below in a Notepad document for future reference. It explains A LOT of things about the world and how it works. I RECOMMEND YOU TO DOWNLOAD ALL THESE VIDEOS AS UA-cam IS CENSORING TRUTH A LOT NOW. THESE VIDEOS COULD DISAPPEAR ANY TIME. >>>
Film Your Hospital, proving Covid is a lie - www.bitchute.com/video/c4XNOEN1ULHY/ (24m29s)
Back to the Future predicts 9/11, demonstrating that the towers were built in the 60's to be demolished in 2001: ua-cam.com/video/P1ULjJ3EqyY/v-deo.html (12m41s)
9/11 - Inside Job ua-cam.com/video/lKO5t3rcIZU/v-deo.html (1hr10m)
California Fires - hi tech beam weapon arson (John Knox video) www.brighteon.com/5817646400001 (3m28s)
Apollo Moon landing - hoax ua-cam.com/video/xciCJfbTvE4/v-deo.html (47m)
ISS footage - hoax ua-cam.com/video/x6XeELc3QH8/v-deo.html (17m50s)
Mars Rover - hoax ua-cam.com/video/gQKnUJTQicA/v-deo.html (7m)
Shootings - hoaxes, some real but done by gov sharp shooters theferalirishman.blogspot.com/2019/03/another-shooting-hoax.html
Bombings - hoaxes www.dailymotion.com/video/x1t7kn1
In Plane Sight - Dave Von Kleist, showing Oklahoma City bombing was NOT a fertilzer bomb: ua-cam.com/video/GG_21okkgco/v-deo.html
You may have trouble convincing friends and family of these things. The TV is too powerful a mind control tool to be overcome by facts. Yuri Bezmenov said it perfectly "When a military boot crushes his balls, THEN he will understand but not before that. That is the tragedy of this situation" ua-cam.com/video/IQPsKvG6WMI/v-deo.html (6m49s) [or ua-cam.com/video/QfvXwuZ-bok/v-deo.html 26m05s]
"[the Illuminati] are instrumental in the process of subversion, only to destablize the nations.
When their job is completed they are not needed anymore.
They know too much.
When they see [others] come to power, obviously they get offended.
They think that THEY will come to power.
That will never happen of course.
THEY WILL BE LINED UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOT." [Their lavish bunkers are booby-trapped to seal them permanently inside]
@@johnnewbold4622 you're insane
@@butterskywalker8785 Is that your way of telling me to not lift you out of your sandbox? Play in there a little longer Butter. I'll call you when its dinner time.
Wtf is this guy on about?
@@johnnewbold4622 go to terapy dude
Teach a child 'What' to think and you can control them through out their life.
Teach a child 'How' to think- And you won't have to.
You should include references.
And you won't be able to*
You can't control somebody who thinks for themselves, even if you u try.
@@mentoslat6140 Actually that just makes it easier. An idiot who thinks he's smart is dumber than a fool who knows he's not smart.
Come to think on it, this has always amused me, Just being able to think doesn't mean you can achieve proper answers from poor deductions.
My advice: Doubt everything, work up from there. But with that sort of thinking, someone has to teach you WHAT to think as a baseline.
Who'd thunk it?
Me, of course. In my case, I read a lot of books, took what I needed and discarded the opinions. On the other hand, that does include an entire encyclopedia so YMMV.
@@tskmaster3837
Ironically you have proved your own point.
Today is the 24th anniversary of the death of Carl Sagan, what a great man. Rest in Peace within the stars.
Lol
@Zealous: Yes, Carl Sagan was one of the true giants of science in context to his unrelenting criticism of what many scientists and all of the government, school systems. media, and truth distorters spewed out as scientific fact. "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof" was the bar that most could not meet. However, Sagan is not resting in peace. Although he was wise enough to know that at apparent face value science and religion are mutually exclusive to each other. Religion is founded strictly on faith and belief whereas science is founded on proof only of physical manifestations or non-physical phenomena which could be measured. Sagan's difficulty was that he was SO SKEPTICAL that it overrode his ability TO HAVE FAITH in anything that wasn't physically or observationally tangible or measurable. I grieve for Carl Sagan. It was his check list for proof of science to establish my proof for God's existence.
@@glennmiller9768 what?! There is no such thing as too skeptical. Faith is believe without proof, which is like building a foundation of wet paper and soap bubbles. To be discouraged.
@@glennmiller9768 can you provide whatever evidence you relied on to come to the conclusion that your god exists?
Much of what he believed about the stars now rests in pieces. In particular about exoplanets, started to fall apart when he was barely cold in the grave
Excellent summary, with great explanations. I am ashamed to say I only discovered (or at least re-discovered, may've forgotten, dementia seems ever closer) Carl Sagan's rules when researching a recent video. Some wonderful lessons there, but at least a couple feel a little unprepared for the way the internet has developed and how (mis)information is exchanged. The Sagan method works if people are genuinely interested in getting to the truth.
Dude I JUST watched your latest video, then here I find you again. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
@@joy-wire Same here, they're both great.
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I dont want to believe i want to know
Carlg sagan.
Religion turn on brain trun off
Yeah m8, another great idea spoilt by money, built with money then destroyed by money. It's a shame there's no happy medium position. ;)
Good arguments, the part about feeling personally attack when our believes are challenged is so true, no matter the nature of the believes.
Also, feeling bad is not a good reason not to challenge them
Thats the reason we should avoid beliefs. Facts are fine, even those vary by individual
better have a real challenge
@@carpo719 Haha, You are special.
You mean facts don’t care about your feelings!
Thanks! If I was a teacher, my students would get an eyeful of this.
Because of this video I am thinking of buying "A Demon Haunted World." Looks like a good read.
Thinking the exact same thing!
it is. Sagan's best book imo
I've read it and I think it is an essential read
It is, IMHO, his magnum opus. It really reshaped how I think about things. Definitely recommend!
I have already read Pale Blue Dot, can’t wait to read this book!
I remember as a young isolated country nerd I thought the first gen Bill Nye kids would grow to be an army of super nerdy rationalists... I was wroooong.
They're just like the Khergabletz (or however its spelled) kids, who watched one video on quantum mechanics, and now act like super 300 iq geniuses. Dunning kreuger and all.
@@nukiradio Luckily I don’t have to worry about the Dunning-Kruger effect. I’m awesome at avoiding it.
@@nukiradio Kurzgesagt? (German: short-said)
@@nukiradio kurzgesagt is pretty cool but i completely agree with you
I remember when TV was introduced. How educational and informative it would be. Radio was much better back then. :)
He's turning more and more into Ewan McGregor
I think you mean space jesus
That's not fair- I actually want to listen to what Drew has to say.
He should start the video with "hello there"
@@aadithnarayanan3880 ala Jeff Taylor
@@vigilmain9283
As if there is a difference
Excellent video.
Occam’s razor is a probability heuristic, it is not an argument. When used as justification either for or against an argument, it has wandered into logical fallacy territory.
Great point +1.
That's a great succinct point that I echoed in a much more long winded way.
@@debunkingdonkey6098 how would you generally define "simple" or count assumptions? That always depends on what framework you use to express stuff. And even if you assume one it's not computable.
@@debunkingdonkey6098 heuristic in that case just means "unrealiable". The unreliability follows from the uncompurability of "simple" in the general case.
How I would define heuristic: A meassure wich can be conputed quicker than a "perfect" solution, but is still "good enough" for certain use-cases where "perfection" is not needed.
@@debunkingdonkey6098 because it uses "simple" and "short" wich both are neither absolute nor computable.
Also ocams razor never makes any statement about "truth" as its only applied to select from 2 (or more) models wich either produce the same observables, or wich both fit the know data equally well.
It just states wich model is propably more usefull.
Just finished reading it. As someone born in 1996 (the year it was written and also the year he passed) It blew me away how many of the societal issues mentioned had a direct impact on my upbringing. How i wish someone in my life exposed me to these ideas and kept me away from the tv screen growing up. Nonetheless I am the master of my fate today and i’m eternally grateful for figures like sagan who opened the doors for me.
I love miss Carl Sagan so much, every time I see one of his interviews again, I start crying.
Me too. I loved him so much. I grew up with him and Cosmos.
I particularly like the idea of using the baloney detector on one’s own held beliefs. Going to read the book for that very purpose…
That book changed my life.
Balogna*
Remember folks, it's ok to try and talk with somebody who is genuine and sincere, but don't feed trolls.
Hard to distinguish these days
My concern is what happens when ignorant conspiratorial trolls start out numbering skeptic truth seekers?!
Why should I care whether or not the other party is trolling? Why not simply respond based on the sole merit of their arguments?
@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT hi, I think they always outnumbered. Internet just gave them a voice and a kind of union.
@@europeansovietunion7372 because a proper discussion is challenging and often exhausting, so trolls are not worth the effort.
Thanks. There is a basic idea that the average 'person on the street' gets wrong. And I grant you that they have a whole lot of help in doing so, from the press (many of whom know better), and even from some scientists who simply fail (or don't even try) to communicate effectively. That idea is this: science is not a collection of 'stuff we know'. It's a process by which we eliminate wrong answers. It's the same notion as saying that in a person's life, they strive for perfection. They know they'll never actually reach some final state of perfect being, but the effort is what's important. By utilizing the scientific method, we separate out the wrong answers. It is thus that we come ever closer to some set of correct ideas. But we will never, ever, "know everything." It's just not possible. Skepticism, logic, reason, and critical thinking are tools we must each use to arrive at a better answer than we had yesterday. That's the best we can do. And it's given us the most reliable body of workable concepts on Earth. Just keep in mind that no answer is final. tavi.
It's a shame that process was not taught at primary school level. Not taught at all.
15:40: Thing though is, this is possible. With enough Power; let alone 'All the Power', this is absolutely possible. Thats why i always laugh about Atheists who claim they 'know' God doesnt exist, cause thats literally and most literally just the other side of the spectrum of toxic Religious believe.
Being a Toxic Atheist aint a bit better than being a toxic Believer. Its dumb to talk like you know that God does or does not exist; BOTH.
No one has or can yet 'disprove/debunk' God, as someone allegedly so powerful cannot be disproven.
Everyone who states they know the Secrets of the Universe, REGARDLESS what exactly they claim these Secrets are, know nothing for real. So yeah, whetever its Aliens or Gods or even something else: That Earth is just 5 Minutes old and all Memorys are just Fabricated is totally possibly.
@@slevinchannel7589 Gods, unicorns, pixies etc. what's the difference. I'm atheistic to them all. Apart from anything else I'm just too lazy to be bothered with any of it. Seems to me that all any of it does, is cause trouble. Keep well all. :)
@@Graeme_Lastname Dude, coparing Unicorns to God is very, very immature.
I'm surprised to find someone so uneducated on this channel.
Mind how this UA-camr would never ever make such sluggish, immature Comparison.
Honestly, youre 'It all seems the same to me' reeks of being so uneducated that you of course get confused by these consepts and topics. Thats a You-Problem, not a Problem with anyone else.
@@Graeme_Lastname
Mind how this UA-camr would never ever make such sluggish, immature Comparison.
Honestly, youre 'It all seems the same to me' reeks of being so uneducated that you of course get confused by these consepts and topics. Thats a You-Problem, not a Problem with anyone else.
Carl sagan gives off major Mr. Rodgers vibes while either in a photo or just hearing him speak
My wife (bless her heart) often says to me "everyone is talking about X being because of Z on Facebook. Has to be something to it!". I regularly reply, "Check it out for yourself. Don't be drawn in. And please don't add to it before you do."
But that's what is happening with mass media; social and otherwise. Someone makes a connection that appears true but is deeply, and sometimes offensively, flawed, yet, because the conclusion matches the feelings of a large group it is transmitted as truth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
Sounds like she's fallen for the Appeal to the People fallacy. A classic counterargument to this is the "Well, would you jump off a cliff if everyone else is doing it too?"
My neighbor is very susceptible to this. It's annoying. But it taught me to let it go if it doesn't affect me directly.
This social media effect is exactly what team Trump is banking on by creating legal cases out of thin air regarding the election. Even despite overwhelming losses, people say, "Well, there must be something to it. Why would anyone go through all that trouble?"
Thus Donald Trump's often used phrase "a lot of people are saying...". Or "imaginary person told me, Sir, everything you say is true."
Yeah Ash, but who knows truth? With NASA meaning "deceive" in Hebrew, and all the fakery of ISS being filmed on earth (you can see the cables in some shots) most so-called scientists are not worth a scientist's boot lace. Check out my list of evidence; its the second part of the pasted list below - after the 923 info.
---> Have a look at one of the "923" videos in this pasted list and see if it rings true. If so, keep reading, watching and sharing.
[ the "23" could indicate "2023", "2030" or "2039 ]
923 references in movies, TV & news items. 911 references included for comparison. >>
9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 1
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9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 2
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9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 3
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9/23 PREDICTED IN MOVIES / SEPTEMBER 2023 - CODE 239. PART 4
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Beast 923 (2:27)
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Death Note 239 (1:25)
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How It Ends / 623 (1:36)
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911:
9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (12:54)
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9/11 predicted in CARTOONS | CODE 911 (14:13)
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9/11 predicted in MOVIES | CODE 911 (7:56)
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We've been told many times this year that this will be the "darkest winter":
Joe Biden: ua-cam.com/video/lXK2KsIlmuc/v-deo.html
Richard Bright, so-called immunologist whistle-blower: ua-cam.com/video/YnYQ9V-XErs/v-deo.html
Jeremy Jurgens and Klauss Schwabb of the World Economic Forum ua-cam.com/video/tSuCuoQxI20/v-deo.html
If those high rankers are saying it then we can be sure it will happen.
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Explanation:
The Great Reset is wiping our way of life off the face of the earth and installing an overtly tyrannical rulership. If you google "Georgia Guidstones" and kind of read between the lines you will get an idea of how comprehensive it is. 911 was the start, Covid is the continuation, and dictatorial authority and global nuclear war are the final acts of the takeover.
Deep State have put their plans for us into the movies, tv and news for many decades. The above pasted list also has a few 911 references so we can see how they tell us what they're gonna do, then they do it. We all know 911 was done by the US gov, not Arabs in a cave.
They've been telling us about 923 (probably September 2023) at least since 1986 (movie Labyrinth with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly). I can only assume that the nukes will fly then.
Be aware that some of the 923 references are obvious, others are obscure. For example, the letter "I" ("I" for India) is the ninth (9th) letter of the English alphabet so is another reference to "9". Also, the number "1" (one) looks like an "I" so it is sometimes used along with "23" to indicate "923" - this technique is used in the introduction to "The Simpsons". Other variations use a "6" as an upside down "9", and various combinations of the digits such as 239, 329, etc.
Stock up on B Vitamins (B for Brain). B supplements are necessary for us to handle stress.
This stuff can be scary at first. But after 3 months you will be very calm again.
Go through the list then pass it on to loved ones so they can be at least mentally prepared. These 923 videos are telling us about a significant event (probably nuclear war) in the future.
To see what they have done in the past, copy and save the list below in a Notepad document for future reference. It explains A LOT of things about the world and how it works. I RECOMMEND YOU TO DOWNLOAD ALL THESE VIDEOS AS UA-cam IS CENSORING TRUTH A LOT NOW. THESE VIDEOS COULD DISAPPEAR ANY TIME. >>>
Film Your Hospital, proving Covid is a lie - www.bitchute.com/video/c4XNOEN1ULHY/ (24m29s)
Back to the Future predicts 9/11, demonstrating that the towers were built in the 60's to be demolished in 2001: ua-cam.com/video/P1ULjJ3EqyY/v-deo.html (12m41s)
9/11 - Inside Job ua-cam.com/video/lKO5t3rcIZU/v-deo.html (1hr10m)
California Fires - hi tech beam weapon arson (John Knox video) www.brighteon.com/5817646400001 (3m28s)
Apollo Moon landing - hoax ua-cam.com/video/xciCJfbTvE4/v-deo.html (47m)
ISS footage - hoax ua-cam.com/video/x6XeELc3QH8/v-deo.html (17m50s)
Mars Rover - hoax ua-cam.com/video/gQKnUJTQicA/v-deo.html (7m)
Shootings - hoaxes, some real but done by gov sharp shooters theferalirishman.blogspot.com/2019/03/another-shooting-hoax.html
Bombings - hoaxes www.dailymotion.com/video/x1t7kn1
In Plane Sight - Dave Von Kleist, showing Oklahoma City bombing was NOT a fertilzer bomb: ua-cam.com/video/GG_21okkgco/v-deo.html
You may have trouble convincing friends and family of these things. The TV is too powerful a mind control tool to be overcome by facts. Yuri Bezmenov said it perfectly "When a military boot crushes his balls, THEN he will understand but not before that. That is the tragedy of this situation" ua-cam.com/video/IQPsKvG6WMI/v-deo.html (6m49s) [or ua-cam.com/video/QfvXwuZ-bok/v-deo.html 26m05s]
"[the Illuminati] are instrumental in the process of subversion, only to destablize the nations.
When their job is completed they are not needed anymore.
They know too much.
When they see [others] come to power, obviously they get offended.
They think that THEY will come to power.
That will never happen of course.
THEY WILL BE LINED UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOT." [Their lavish bunkers are booby-trapped to seal them permanently inside]
From now on, I'm substituting "my intuition" with "my baloney detection kit."
😂 U made my coment reading.
But the baloon detection should protect you from your intuition! Not the other way around.
Bologna
That spelling of baloney is bologna
That might not be always a wise thing to do
Clearly the universe popped into existence last Thursday with all currently subatomic particles in their exact energy levels positions and momentum.
I mean don't you all remember last Thursday?
Some creationists do believe this.
@@jimbo2227 the memories were all implanted by God.
This is highly improbable because most of the time particles have no exact energy levels, positions, and momenta due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
@@firstaidsack While I'm sure there's a way to make it logically coherent, the situation is even worse than you say. Modern physics in my understanding doesn't allow for those to all be true, ever, if we're being precise. The underlying reality doesn't even contain individual particles. However, it might be easier to make a model like that fit the evidence than to do the same with a Flat Earth.
Love seeing this kind of content still on atheist youtube. Helping folks deal with all kinds of irrational thought or thinking that tends towards what is not reliable
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if you actually research the bible you will find that gods word is true and never fails. it is a book which accuratly predicts the future.
if something seems nonsensical in the bible, its just because you dont understand it.
@@BlurpGooDiJabba thats a bit of special pleading there. The Bibles predictions and historical record dont match up. The Exodus has no historical or archeological evidence. Youd figure over 1 million people migrating in a caravan to Canaan would have plenty of archeological findings. It doesnt. Despite well funded attempts.
The book of Daniel is filled with historical inaccuracies.
The Bible is even inaccurate when quoting itself. For instance Jesus quote an Old Testament text but theres no record of that text.
Im sorry but your statement doesnt hold any water
I used to preach for many years and studied the bible for a while too. There came a point however that the more i dug under the surface of the text, went into its historicity, and studied how the canon came to be including early christology, i found the Bible simply couldnt be the word of an inerrant, holy, and all powerful being.
@@philswaim392 on the surface it might seem that way but there are always reasons for the text to be written the way it is. We modern readers put our modern glasses on and read it with our modern ideas and our language and we dont understand it because of our own fallibility, we read metaphorical things literally and we take metaphors (like adam and eve eating an apple) literally.
@@philswaim392 there are secular sources that mentions the exodus too. Its not something found only in the bible.
It's fantastic Sagan is being remembered by the younger gen (I'm 60ish). DHW is my favorite book also (along with Michael Shermer's " Why People Believe Weird Things"). It seems that I have to keep my Baloney Detection Kit on standby on a daily basis these days.
When I was very young I considered myself an expert in my field although I had so much wrong without realizing it. Now that I've been at it for over sixty years I realize how little I know. The more I learn the more I realize I have left to learn, more than I can possibly learn in a lifetime.
J. Krishnamurti summed it up as follows - "The mind gives meaning to anything, but the meaning it gives is meaningless."
The American Psychological Association, the self-help-book industry, Hollywood, and the police all need to adopt and use the Sagan Method.
And also the entire humankind.
I read that AA involved God. Looking it up now, 7 of the 12 steps have to do with God, or the prayer to Him! I detect baloney!
@@sandal_thong people who are atheist can absolutely apply AA rules and not need to use the whole God thing. But AA has been shown to be no more effective than any other method. If it works for you, great, but people kicking the habit on their own with other friends eing support can be just as successful
So do historians. So many, so, so many, start with a conclusion and shoehorns everything to fit it.
@@sandal_thong AA is just bogus nonsense. It's a way for people with a history of bad choices to continue to have friends despite those bad choices. That's the benefit it has. Nothing more. It's a cult that's at least trying to help people. And succeeding in some cases.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” --- François-Marie Arouet
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe anything because it s found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept and live up to it.” --- Buddha Siddhartha Gautama Shakyamuni
observe the hundreds of biblical prophecies be fulfilled. bless yahveh the god of israel.
@@BlurpGooDiJabba You mean the one where Tyre will be destroyed and never rebuilt? (Ezekiel 26:7-14) Or perhaps you are referring to the one where Egypt will be completely uninhabited for forty years. (Ezekiel 29:10-11) Or it might be that you mean the one where the Kingdom of God will be established while some listening to Jesus speak are still alive.
I could go on, but you will never have ears to hear what you don't want to hear, Mr. Jabba.
@@hisxmark regarding the kingdom of god, thats probably referring to the christianisation of the lost tribe of israel, the regathering of europe
@@hisxmark Yeah, BlurpGooDiJabba is fitting his findings to his beliefs, rather than the other way around...a common mistake among religious/spiritual people.
I love point #5 since I had a personal run in with that during my passion project as a clinical research fellow. What began as youthful enthusiasm for figuring out a way to see who's most at risk for opioid addiction, later turned into stoic respect for why no such screening tool has been validated yet. I had to lay aside my pride from simply putting a wing and a prayer into my hunches, but instead had to identify all of the logistical, systemic, and knowledge barriers of why such studies are so difficult to perform. It turned out that I had to learn as much about how opioid addiction is different from opioid dependence and chronic pain from a neuroscientific, epidemiological, and psychiatric standpoint. But after this whole ordeal of letting go of my original misconceptions, I learned a heck of a lot along the way and ended up with a much more realistic study protocol.
I just realized ive been pronouncing homeopathy wrong 😮 and btw..... i have to say it again... Carl Sagan had the most calming voice i ever heard....😶
Just about. There’s a few that relax me. One, being Carl Sagan, another is Sam Harris and also Christopher Hitchens. All of these men are easy to listen to on the tone of their voices alone.
How to tell who is knowledgeable: the person who says he knows more about it than anyone. Believe me.
I think you missed the point. But how do you do it?
@@Irishlostsoul wow the irony of your comment is hilarious. It’s a joke dude
@@apollo1573I dont think you know what irony is. But im used to these not being jokes. My bad, thanks for being a jerk about it. It really helps.
"Believe me" I get that reference.
@@Irishlostsoul idk how I was being a jerk but okay, but it’s ironic because you say he missed the point when you missed his joke completely.
I love that Drew basically just described Discworld. Excuse me, I have to go book shopping.
I’m reading the comments specifically to look for Discworld comments
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My dad had similar dreams about the internet. He loved computers, and was thrilled at the idea of being able to put so much information and knowledge in one place where anyone at all could access it. He was a dreamer, much like you. If only it could have been true.
Thanks!
I miss Carl Sagan.
Watching "Cosmos" on TV when it aired in 1980 while in High School was a great experience, as was David Attenborough's "Life on Earth" around a similar time, both of which enhanced academia for me and left an indelible impression.
A brilliant man.
Every time you said something that made me think of a counterpoint, you addressed that counterpoint almost immediately. Well done :3
An excellent synopsis of Sagan's work.
15:40: Thing though is, this is possible. With enough Power; let alone 'All the Power', this is absolutely possible. Thats why i always laugh about Atheists who claim they 'know' God doesnt exist, cause thats literally and most literally just the other side of the spectrum of toxic Religious believe.
Being a Toxic Atheist aint a bit better than being a toxic Believer. Its dumb to talk like you know that God does or does not exist; BOTH.
No one has or can yet 'disprove/debunk' God, as someone allegedly so powerful cannot be disproven.
Everyone who states they know the Secrets of the Universe, REGARDLESS what exactly they claim these Secrets are, know nothing for real. So yeah, whetever its Aliens or Gods or even something else: That Earth is just 5 Minutes old and all Memorys are just Fabricated is totally possibly.
Dont get me wrong, i dont disagree with this Video or even the Statements around 15:00. I was just put off by this one example with the Memorys; cause yeah, Memorys can be faked... and also, i find people ridiculous who claim they can 'prove' God does not exist.
@@slevinchannel7589 I'm nearly sure Santa Claus doesn't exist, at least as the literalist interpretation with regard to the 19th century poem "A Visit from St. Nicholas" and imagery drawn by Thomas Nast. But I can't prove there's not a supernatural being that helps at least one kind child every year. I liked the show _Joan of Arcadia_ where a god (God?) asks Joan to help one person a week. I can't prove there's not a minor deity that knows a lot, but only helps a few people every week through his/her followers.
@@sandal_thong I have no idea what youre babbling about.
@@slevinchannel7589 Ditto.
One pervasive habit that I have noticed particularly in hobby circles is the propensity to discard (or even prevent the collection of) data before it's even been analyzed. They just say, "That won't show anything" without any basis.
You don't discard data *before* analyzing it.
We can judge our progress by the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers, our willingness to embrace what is true rather than what feels good.
Carl Sagan
“How ya doin'?' I always think, What kind of a question is that?, and I always reply, 'A bit early to tell.”
"Carl Sagan"
- Carl Sagan
“No, no, he’s got a point.”
I loved Carl Sagan as a kid growing up.on African. This clip video of him almost made me cry. Amazing insight. Because of Sagan I always entertain the possibility I could be wrong allowing me to other points of view. I am open to change my mind with overwhelming evidence.
6:13 - I've never seen Sagan look that old. I'm used to seeing his youth from _Cosmos._ It's a striking reminder of mortality.
It's tough seeing him so emaciated in that interview ... and yet he's still sharp as a tack.
Here's a quick reference for those who want to look up specific Sagan Tools:
1. 3:09 - Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the "facts."
2. 4:04 - Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
3. 5:14 - Do not accept arguments from authority.
4. 6:19 - Spin more than one hypothesis.
5. 7:17 - Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
6. 10:06 - Quantify.
7. 11:23 - If there's a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) - not just most of them.
8. 12:13 - Occam's Razor. (a scientific and philosophical rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily, which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex, or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities)
9. 14:03 - Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. (Scientific falsifiability/refutability: the capacity for a statement, theory or hypothesis to be contradicted by evidence.)
I hope this helps others.
Here's something that a lot of people do not understand, math is just a language.
an excellent and accurate language for analyzing phenomena, but just a language.
Mistakes can also be made in the mathematical language.
The fact that the equation is mathematically correct does not mean that the idea derived from it is indeed valid for reality.
Doesn't prove it happens, just proves it could? :)
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In some cases yes, but not in all.
Mathematics reflects the laws we have drawn about the world.
There are assumptions, from which logically disassemble and assemble in different ways to draw conclusions.
But nothing guarantees that your assumptions are accurate enough.
It is entirely possible that the mathematics will be syntactically perfect but the conclusion will not be valid
@@norelfarjun3554 Yep, I get it. Tnks m8. :)
"Why are we supposed to trust you?" -Benny
"I'll tell you using a universal language." -Queen Watevra Wa'nabi
"Is it Math?" -Unikitty
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Just downloaded “The Demon-Haunted world” audiobook as a result of watching this video. I’m looking forward to listening to it.
Well, it's been a year. Read it yet? If so, what did you get from it?
I LOVE the hair and stubble. You’re killing it, drew
Another great video. And I also wanted to call out how beautiful your lighting set-up is the and quality of video.
The shallow depth of field, the blue accent light on your right, your warm, full key light - it’s all really well done. It is simply too-tier and would fit perfectly in a high end Nova documentary.
I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a great 2021!
Thank you! I’ve struggled to get my lighting just how I want it because I’m very white and easy to over expose lol. I’m really happy with how this one turned out.
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic I’ve done this for 20 years and you nailed every piece of the lighting puzzle.
Glad you are happy with it too.
Sagan is still one of my favorite people to ever live, even if i never knew him personally. I went to a bible academy instead of public school. Started it around the 7th grade. There was no science course. The academy skipped it altogether. What i have learned about the Cosmos, and about nature itself, started because of him. It wasn't just the Cosmos series of his that got me interested in learning about the Cosmos, it was him and the way he taught. My favorite quote of his is "Intellectual genius is no guarantee against being dead wrong." I think it is a good quote to keep in mind, especially when there is an argument from authority.
How did you get into a college or university with no science?
Just started watching and immediately had to comment: I love the new look. The hair and 5 o’clock shadow really suit you! Okay, back to the content, the most important part of course!
Hello sir, good to see you here.
Why don't you upload videos anymore?
@@spiralithil I do plan to in the future when I can take a chunk of time off work again. I’m doubly busy with personal obligations this past year as a caregiver for a parent who is palliative and needs lots of care. Not much time for me to create detailed work products. But I am on Twitter under this handle and am still regular there. Cheers!
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I’m legit distracted by how beautifully lit your set is...
Great video, I read the demon haunted world many years ago and it was a great book. It was cool from my perspective as I had been using much of his approach without having language to describe it formally. Keep up the great work!
Despite being religious myself, I find myself coming back to this channel from time to time. I appreciate the rational mindset you present, even if it doesn't entirely align with my own beliefs. I'm often mistaken as an atheist by people who know me, given that I study biotechnology, frequent death metal concerts and hold left-leaning ideals. But truth be told, I wish there were more religious people making content like this about rational thinking. My best guess is that rational religion doesn't sell, whereas rational atheism does. I think that says more about the average person who believes in God rather than the existence of divinity itself. Who knows? All in all, I genuinely admire your admission of your own biases and ability to challenge people like me to critically think about what I think and believe. Keep up the good work!
I think your onto something here bro. Also ya im not an athiest either, but agree that rationalism and belief are not mutually exclusive, and i love this channel for giving me a mirror to check myself
The problem is, rationality can also be a weapon.
Hitler, Stalin and Mao, were 100% atheist rationalists. That is not a coincidence.
@@tensevo hitler wasn’t an atheist. But his idea of aryan supremacy was an ideology not derived from religion.
@@AUA-camCommentator I know, he thought he was God. That's the problem with tyrants. They understand religion deeply, they use the symbology, subvert it, then replace all reference to deity with them. Then, they have everybody worship them.
@@AUA-camCommentator but Hitler was immensely inspired by his exploration into the occult, and the Aryans were the ones with the now Hindu Vedas 👀
If you have watched Cosmos:A personal voyage then you are not here for knowledge , you are here for proud of Carl Sagan.
Definitely agree this is a great book. I really appreciate what Sagan did to try and help people learn how to fight back against pseudoscience.
Nice summary. However I have a remark concerning Occam's Razor: 12:38 "In practice this means tossing out hypotheses which explain the data in a way which is more complicated than necessary" this can be misleading. Someone may think that the explanation of a sun carried by birds across the sky is less complicated than motions caused by spacetime curvature. Occam's Razor simplifies assumptions, not explanations.
FANTASTIC interpretation and breakdown of Carl Sagan's TDHW! Just... absolutely wonderful. :)
I'll be sharing this video as much as I can, as... I've done some of my own V.O. (voice-over) homages to Sagan's work. Specifically, "Humility" and "Pale Blue Dot".
This is my most favorite of your discussions so far.
man, i've checked you out for a while... this is my fav book too. i had already left my religious thinking when i read it, but i was made fully awake by this book.
I shared this along with my short thoughts: Please do not be afraid to update your beliefs...on anything. It isn't something we should fear. Embrace working towards the truth.🖤
This video is great and much needed. Dr. Sagan would be proud of you.
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It’s young people like you and Rationality Rules that give me hope for the human race. Bravo! ✌🏽✌🏽
Drew's example at 14:57 is also an opportunity to showcase Occam's Razor in action as well. Notice how when explaining things with a new counter that can't be proven false, it's adding yet ANOTHER assumption that Occam's Razor doesn't like.
One of my favourite quotes from a book, “People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.”
― Terry Goodkind, Wizard's First Rule
I still don't understand why this isn't taught in every school. I'm not talking about this exact method, but about scientific skepticism in general, about logical fallacies, cognitive biases, illusions and other weaknesses of the mind. How are people supposed to understand that a method is needed when they don't understand how many mistakes we make without and even with a method?
Everyone should have encountered a course in scientific skepticism, the scientific method, logical fallacies and research methods at least once in their education. It's astonishing how few people use or even know about those things. And some think they know when in reality they've never consciously practiced those habits. This isn't something you hear once and then you're immune to nonsense. This is something that is difficult and requires practice. This is a constant struggle against your feelings, instincts and impulses.
From my experiences, people don't encounter classes that teach these things in detail until around college (at least where i live in the US). And i agree, it's shameful.
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Because truly independent thought requires minds to be completely free to question & challenge all ideas & assumptions ... like the assumption that your particular country and/or culture is automatically, inevitably the best one possible (a particularly common one here in the US).
Critical thinking skills are indeed invaluable to those wishing to protect themselves from bias, superstition & misinformation -- but when young minds are equipped w/ such tools they are viewed as an active threat to entrenched powers who want nothing more than to maintain control over our systems of economy, government & communication. ANY voiced opposition to the status quo, no matter how slight or reasoned, must be silenced or otherwise derided so much as to discourage others from even considering different points of view.
One of my favorite episodes of The Simpsons is "Lisa The Vegetarian" -- in which young Lisa Simpson, after yrs of happily eating meat w/o concern, finally makes the logical connection in her mind between meat consumption & animal slaughter at the dinner table after the Simpson family visited a petting zoo ... & the realization is so emotionally traumatic that Lisa declares she can never eat meat again.
Afterward, Lisa can't help but notice the very pro-meat orientation of both the school Health Class curriculum as well as the cafeteria student lunch program ... & when she voices her discomfort & opposition to this clear bias, the adult authority figures quietly press a button labeled "Independent Thought Alarm" to warn Principal Skinner that Lisa is becoming a "problem student" by openly challenging school policy. In response, Skinner calls in a livestock / food industry spokesperson to give a presentation to expound the virtues of meat consumption by showing an "educational film" -- which Lisa rightly calls out as nothing more than corporate propaganda.
It doesn't take a genius to see why the livestock industry has a vested interest in dictating & influencing the policy of the USDA & public school health education programs: if enough kids grow up vegan or vegetarian, the livestock industry as we know it would cease to exist. We can't have that -- just think of all the poor meat corporation executives!
You look exactly like a young "Joueur du Grenier" with that beard, that's impressive ! And great vid also.
This was really great.
If I didn't already agree 99.99% with you on every point in this one, I believe I'd find your well chosen words most persuasive.
Have a great new year Drew
Maybe a little late, but here, have the timestamps:
1- 3:09 "wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the "facts""
2- 4:04 "encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view"
3- 5:15 "do not accept arguments from authority"
4- 6:20 "spin more than one hypotesis"
5- 7:22 "try not to get overly attached to a hypotesis just because it's yours"
6- 10:05 "quantify"
7- 11:22 "if there's a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work, not just most of them"
8- 12:13 "Occam's razor"
9- 14:09 "always ask wether the hypostesis can be falsified"
India needs thousands of Carl Sagans right now.
Brazil too
Just India? Come to Portugal and I'll show you stupidity. Kissing statues in middle of pandemic for covid protecrion, but no mask (those are bad for you) and the vaccine is a chip for the hew control of the world. Worst is that about 90 % of the population finishes high-school and the curriculum is not bad.
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But the guru
You must obey the guru
The sooner you can accept "i dont know" without saying "therefore paranormal thing happened" as an okay answer then you can start learning things.
I believe it was Theodore Sturgeon who said that 90% of everything is crap. This certainly applies to the internet. Baloney-detection is needed constantly.
Thank you, Drew. Your channel is a candlelight in the dark. :)
Excellent video!
9:20 "I will have Sagan say a final word on this". Unfortunately that was his last interview.
The hurdle for science is that it does not innately tie itself to any culture. You cannot say science is anymore "Christian" than it is "Arabic" or "Muslim" or "Buddhist". Cultures survive by designing themselves with defensive measures against ideas that are universal, but also contradict their own beliefs.
In essence, a lot of this is a systemic problem. You yourself might think you can make a difference, but the truth is we have to change society to change religion.
Damn that sponsorship was actually done so well
I love Carl Sagan man. He was very clear when conveyed a concept. He's still one of the explanations I've heard on the idea of the 4th dimension.
*"As long as people believe in absurdities, people will commit atrocities." - Voltaire*
Voltaire said that the bible will be erase from the world...but some years after his death his house was used to print bibles...now still the bible is the most selling book in the world.....
History repeats, or rhymes,
rationality, specifically state sponsored terror will be used to create mass panic and fear, such that mass atrocities are inevitable, as long as we are purely rational.
To be irrational, is to not be moved by fear/greed or mass hysteria when everybody around you is losing their minds.
Contagion is rational. It is built into us.
As a Jesus follower and Sagan enthusiast I appreciated this video!! (I enjoy your content and your reverence of truth)
Important note for your many premises point- this isn't always true. For example, if someone holds a belief on the basis of two arguments, and the falsification of one doesn't necessitate the falsehood of the other, then one argument being proven untrue wouldn't dismantle the whole belief. You hinted at this slightly when you mentioned the arguments being chained together, but I think it's important to stress. Otherwise, this is committing a fallacy fallacy, which hastily assumes that an entire argument is invalid just because of one or more fallacies.
That universe as an electron thing actually short circuited me for a bit when I tried to picture it. What a trip.
I got Sagan's book (This Demon Haunted World) out of the local library and read the whole thing. It was a very good book. Before returning it I scanned the Baloney Detection chapter and now have permanent copy!
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"The world is flat and a little over 6,000yrs old."
I weep for humanity.
They are allowed to vote. I weep for me. ;)
Sad I admit but I find it amusing watching their incredible displays of perverse logic. Much fun to be had here as they are destroyed ua-cam.com/users/SciManDanvideos
I totally agree Wesley. But I weep even more that so much of the world's educated population are themselves deluded into believing similar absurdities. For example, try explaining to someone that the International Space Station footage is filmed in a studio on earth (you can see the cables in some shots) and its like you've attacked a religious icon. See for yourself bro.
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@@johnnewbold4622 So the ISS is a scam but a magic pixie in the sky is real? Saw the video. Best described as a moron proving his status.
@@johnnewbold4622 Please go see a professional.
Excellent book, I read it back in 1996.
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0:50 - so basically the Imperial Truth from 40k?
"The teacher comes to point the way and the students end up worshiping the pointer."
- An old saying, often attributed to Buddha [note If he actually said it, that's all the more ironic, considering that many worship the Buddha as a god, while his teachings never suggest that he was divine.
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Nicely thorough yet succinct. "The Demon Haunted World - Science as a Candle in the Dark" is an outstanding read - inspiring, frightening, and thoroughly rewarding. I love most of his books, but this one, sadly his last, is very special.
Very clear and helpful explanation. I also appreciate the candor and lack of tendentiousness, which is enhanced further by a compassionate and empathetic outlook, even towards who disagree with some of his conclusions. I have recommended these videos to several people who are confused about how to approach some of these issues.
Well outside of technology, we've been living for more than 2k+ years, so by now we have enough Knowledge we should be able to live and exist peacefully. But hay that's a flaw of man.
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Sent this to my friend who believes in astrology, got blocked :D
That's the major problem these days - people who most need to be more diversely informed are the ones who will wear out the block button until they are so entrenched in their own bias that there is no way out. There is no seeking truth for people who are certain they already know it.
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Echo chambers have become the norm.
Carl Sagen is just like me. As time goes on, he gets older.
okay. so the first thing you said about how science and information brings us together is exactly the answer i needed for my family!
Beliefs are like a cage you cannot see. They will keep you from learning, from growing, from being truly free.
Honestly disappointed i never heard of Carl Sagan until now. Definitely going to look for more on him including the Demon haunted world book.
#5 is the reason religions will (most likely) always exist.
I know many folks think it's the fear of fire, brimstone, and ever lasting torment that keeps them glued to their religious beliefs...but I completely disagree.
It's the hope of life after death, of seeing their loved ones again, that is the bond.
No matter how much science tries to steer the culture in a different direction, as long as their is death, religions will always exist.
It's human nature. No amount of rationality will change that.
When speaking of data, I might nitpick that we should seek versilimitude, not Truth....Truth is an abstract, and therefore suspect. Other than that, yes....more people should read Sagan. Absolutely!
Not too sure about that as verisimilitude just means the appearance of truth. Truth is exact. :)
@@Graeme_Lastname indeed, and therefore an abstract perfection. In the real world, versilimitude is the best we can do. There's always error in every measurement. To say we have Truth is arrogance. But we should approach as close as possible, knowing it is impossible to achieve. Truth belongs in the realm of philosophy and religion. Versilimitude is the realm of science.
@@scottclark3761 2+2=4 No philosophy or religion required. You're a philosopher and I'm a programmer. Kool m8. :)
Your dispassionate, yet sympathetic approach to any discussion is commendable... I wish everyone on any side of an argument could exhibit the aforementioned characteristics (we might be better as a species for it)
Not only a most needed and important topic, but also absolutely brilliantly presented. Thank you!
IMO Sagan's rules are out-dated. They call for an approach which cannot stand up to the world of "alternative facts", the relegation of "fact-checkers" to a null role in debate so that they can safely be ignored, the view that the workings of logic and education are evidence of conspiracy and nefarious purpose, and the determination that criticism of any sort is oppressive censorship. Sagan's suggestions operate well in the marketplace of ideas, but when lies and falsehoods are given the same or more weight than actual ideas, the marketplace becomes an arena.