Does Overboat's silent personal foiler spell the end of Jetskis and pedalos?
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- Toby Hodges gets a spin on a new personal electric watercraft. No emissions, noise or wake. Will this finally dethrone the jetski?! It certainly has lots of potential for the rental, hospitality and event markets
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My grandmom's older sister would love this.
😂
My ten fused vertebrae from jet ski tendering would agree with her.
I would have put the forward button in the up position and Reverse below.
Exactly right! The designers f*cked the positioning up, and I bet they can’t orientate a map either!
Column automatic vehicles have reverse above neutral and drive below neutral. Just sayin’
@@alexsundance8314 let them cook
Looks to be about as exciting as an afternoon nap on a hammock!😸
Exactly.
Yeah, I went on a jet ski once, after about 10 mins I thought “ is that it “ job done, ticked that off, same for power boats, 10 mins of being pounded to death, what more was I expecting? Not been on a wind surfer, but it looks a whole lot more fun than a foiling wind surfer, yawn!
@@dickenscider7328 You sound like more of a 'sit in a library' kind of guy. I get it.
@@Glide1992 sorry mate you got that one wrong, Been Hang Gliding Microlighting, Paragliding, Motorcross, Motorcycle Circuit Racing and Sailing. Currently travelling the world with my retired wife in our 42ft sailboat. I’m not saying those pastimes are not exciting, but honestly for how many minutes?
If it did 60 knots it'd be awesome!
hydrofoils are among my favorite in boating technology. I am glad to see this.
But what's the fun when you don't even feel you're on water? Might as well be riding on flat saltplanes...
no this is not the end for jetskis, not even close
Absolutely right.. When the skis go out with a full tank of gas you can play all day. I would hate a silent ride that would only 1-2 hours then have to recharge. The concept of "Green Energy" is nice and all but this silly and boring to me.
@@richardfowler3254 Not to mention how slow it is
Overboat: 4.5 kw
Jetskis: 200+ kw
Absolutely do not understand the whole point of these
@@mechanixautorepair it might be for older riders who would like to ride a JetSki but would find it too rough.
The upcoming online videos of idiots crashing these things will be hilarious! Can't wait.
Always a pleasure to watch your boat features Toby
Enjoyed that! Thank you Toby. I hope that you will do a full review from the boat show.
I can see the older crowd getting one of these but the younger ones will want the power and tricks you can do with a PWC. Just a thought. I love foils though!
What do you consider the older crowd? I'm 58 and I'd much rather ride my old Kawasaki 550 stand up jet skis!!! These Overboats would be fun for about a half hour then get burned out on it! If I were to get something new and had the money, I'd rather buy a Sea Breacher!!! I wonder how much these Overboats cost and where they're made?
A toy for the yacht owners.
I'm the old git you mention ! Still like my 100 mph Jetski BUSA 1300cc !
Love foils hate lithium batteries
On foils you can jump on a flat water. Look what wingfoilers and windfoilers do.
€20.K I was expecting higher.
Amazing!
I would like to see it on a choppy day at haulover inlet.🤞🏼😬
Yes! Tell Wavy Boats! Great way to test foils.
@@humbertojimenez3475 Blue Top Legend needs to be sent one of these for testing at Haulover.
Haulover would rule that foil
@@douglasjones8539 i know, but it would fun and interesting to watch
Overpriced piece of plastic with some ion lithium cells. The Chinese will crash and crush these prices in a blink of an eye. As is it is a rip off
600w solar bimini would fit on that and be a treat, some fishing rod holders and an esky on the stern and YBS has a new runabout
Thanks for the introduction to this. Love the foil concept although needing a metre of draft for a small inshore boat is a bit of a contradiction in mission requirements. I wonder - has anyone tried packing a jet ski hull full of batteries and an electric motor yet? Going to need considerably more power tho as the drag of the wetted hull surface doesn’t really get reduced like with foils. Lots of interesting ideas to come soon for this market I’m sure.
Regarding your battery jet ski question: you may want to search for the Orca PWC :)
We’re releasing one at the end of the year
@@MrDschaen Looks really good and the price is much better than I expected.
Early adopting is expensive alright. The Bleeding edge.
@@HYDREZEN what company?
This is one of the first iterations and people are already complaining! Do you remember the first jet skis? One person, noisy, stinky, underpowered. Now 4 stroke craft are great, imagine this after a few more years of development. Just as electric cars are taking over, so will electric short haul water transport.
People don't. Buy jetskis for transport. The noise was never a problem for the rider, it kind of accentuated the feeling of speed.
People who buy jetskis aren't in the market for a dry stable ride. Not for $14k for the non foiling version.
@Alex Fracyon I was replying to the original post, not yours.
Stinky? Wtf?
@@xploration1437 burnt gasoline smells stinky.
Still noisy and stinky, dangerous and an annoyance.
In my opinion I do not think that Overboats are in the market to compete Jetskis because this is for me totally two different things and I think that the target/audience of Overboats might be different as well. Why not competing efoil surfboards but jetskis I am not sure. In any ways, I totally love the Overboats' idea and I can't wait to try it!
Depends... I think tourists in Norway want to try this in narrow fjords under the midnight sun to a nice place or fishing with it... They would love it. Svaldbard is also pritty fantastic place to use it.
There is a pwc manufacturer Valo Hyperfoil wich is introducing soon a jetfoil. However the Overboat is a jetski designed on a foil usage such as the pwc specifly designed for Flyboard.
Great complement to electric cats like the Silent yacht. A tender of sorts. The foils should have an option though to raise e.g. like daggeboards to access shallow waters on a rocky beach...
One of the coolest things I've ever seen!
I love that it makes very little noise!
There have been people who sailed around the world on yachts that cost less than that.
Example?
@@lomayllano9309 no examples, just another keyboard warrior...
Polynesians canoed across the pacific, and a Japanese bloke went out to sea on the roof of his house- neither spent a cent to do so. What’s your point?
@@Chris-fo8wp I know searching the internet is hard for some minds so I spent 30 seconds for you and found this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Acton
@@Nunyabizn3ss I don't know derrrrrr, maybe derrrrrr, that that product derrrrr, is expensive, derrrrrrrr.
Genius! Nice work inventors!!!
That is cool, would love to try one.
Was wondering how long it'd take for some company to bother making a hydrofoil PWC. (Seemed like an obvious idea, with all the needed parts to do it going back at least three decades.) But there it is now, and it seems neat. The only downside is you have to use more caution around other watercraft because they're not going to expect you to come up on them that quietly. (You likely don't want to be around somebody fishing or trawling, or towing water skis. Even some sailboats may be distracted trying to catch wind to go as fast, and will need space.) But if you use enough sense, it seems like a fun way to cruise a coastline or river.
what are you talking about? simply look around you. small sailboats are just as fast. use common sense and keep your eyes open. has been that way since boating began. this isn't a wal-mart parking lot.
Nice flat calm water on that day. Wonder how it performs in wind with a swell or choppy sea.
Interesting video.
Upside quiet and calm, really cool.
Downside large draft , harder to tow and store, lower speed, less drive time, longer charge time
Batteries are key.
Very interesting and always wondered where the hydrofoil technology would go I’m 64 and at age age 9 my dad let me helm a 35 passenger hydrofoil across Biscayne bay from Miami.
You'll like this tech then . ua-cam.com/video/m0fWO1KO8-E/v-deo.html
Holy crap that was back in the 1960s. That is also something I would never forget. Good for you to experience and remember that
Flew the hull on my Hobie 16 for a decade everywhere. Southern California to San Felipe Mexico.
In Central Florida looking for a new Catamaran! Lakes here are awesome.....ladies too :))
Check out the America's cup sailboat races. They are all hydrofoils now and really fast. Sailboats doing 40 knots.
@@moshunit96 : yeah, saw some of the races on U-Tube. That would be an incredible experience --js
I used to love foilers but they have a few drawbacks that limit them.
You will hit something at speed one day, and the foil either has to break or fold in some way. Either way you are crashing at speed.
Foils need to be really clean, or they fly badly.
Above 20 kts there are real issues with cavitation, and ventilation is always an issue in rough water. Again, random crash at high speed.
Foils are inherently tricky in engineering sense, so they are expensive to do right. (20K EU!!)
I'd go for a ski setup with suspension and swamp-boat type prop for a hoon-craft.
Planing on the surface has its advantages🐬🐢🐟🦈
@@SurfAddict
Details Pls..
How?
this makes sense sorta ---> ua-cam.com/video/mpOdIM8D9gc/v-deo.html
I have already hit 2 floating objects wing foiling. Both catastrophic crashes. So, in 3 years of summer (lake) foiling , recreationally, about 20(aggregate) hrs per year, and 2 hits. The foils and lifting wings are super sensitive to any deformation. The same would be true for foils on a highspeed electric craft of any kind. Just ask the designers of the americas cup AC 75's. As thr OP pointed out the cavitation issues are going to unfortunately persist through this development cycle... i do hope they solve it as the ride on foils is amazing.
@@TheoSmith249 love that you shared those experiences. The video was pretty useless about the cons of the toy. Ty
I love it! All the benefits of a jet ski while minimizing the disturbance to beachgoers, fishermen, and other small watercraft/hobbies. Plus, more stability and no exhaust. And they will only get faster 😁
All the benefits??? Wake me up when we get to the other side of the lake. Boring.
It's like comparing a donkey to a horse. I know which one I'll ride for fun.
@@Glide1992 yeah but the benefit is if you get into one of these your grandkids might get a chance of enjoying the planet too.
One marshmallow now? Or 2 later?
@@sierramike2113 What are talking about. In case you didn't get the memo "you'll own nothing and be happy"
I have ridden on an air chair towed behind a ski boat. Lots of fun but hard to control because your height in the water is dependent on subtle changes in your center of gravity. Lean back to far and the hydrofoil will rise out of the water and the chair will crash back down. The electronic control system on this boat must be pretty amazing!
It looks like a lot of fun
Esthetically it needs some refinement but it looks like a lot of fun 😄.
I'll have one and put it on my Canova 142 - when I get it.
Fabulous ! makes me wonder if there is a fishing boat / speed boat size Electric Hydrofoil ?
Incredible craft! Purposed less aggressive than a jetski tho. The foil is similar to a trike motorcycle. And jet ski’s are like a dirt bike.
It will be a great opportunity for “non-extreme” riders,to feel a sense of the rush. Only without the nerve racking physical demand for jet skiing.
thats what i suspected, getting your body constantly pounded up and down can't be good for your joints long term.
Foils are awesome - but they have limitations and drawbacks as well.
And electrics are still niche vehicles due to range and recharge time.
2 hours is still not bad, how long do you get on a jetski?
No emissions? There’s no such thing, as something was emitted to make the electricity to charge it. But I love the fact that it doesn’t make a wake! That’s going to confuse some cops when they tell you to slow down because it’s a no wake zone and you explain that even though you were going fast you weren’t making a wake.
Not necessarily.. lots of solar and wind power in the grid. Solar panels aren't particularly "dirty" to produce - their only weakness is cloudy days and nights.
@@redwolfexr What are you talking about? Photovoltaics are massively energy and resource intensive to produce. They have finally gotten to the point where they have a net positive energy production over a reasonable system cycle, but that is a somewhat recent ability. Wind with the massive composite structures and gearboxes and generators is in a similar boat. Not saying they aren't useful but we cannot pretend like they are anything close to "zero emission."
@@Rocketpax read what I said.. I didn't say they didn't take ENERGY to make. I said they were not particularly DIRTY to produce. (main energy need is melting the sand for the strata) This isn't particularly polluting.
Solar cells last decades, with VERY tiny power reductions over that time. Most large panels have 20+ years at 95%. After that they take the same timeframe to degrade another 5%.
But the point is that you have to go to third order back to try to "find" pollution. The motor doesn't produce any.
How is it trailered? Do you moor it and take a tender to it.? Love that it's quieter. Doesn't really show in rough water or another's wake.
Perfect for private lakes with no wake zones and it being quite not disturbing anyone. Ride it to the buddies across the lake and have fun doing so.
Improves water quality for the kids that swim in the lake. Everyone spills gas when refilling at least once.
This will be functional for small extreme rural areas where getting gas is expensive and takes a while day to get to. Now just get this and combine with solar panels.
Theres lots of anchorages where gas jet skis are banned from because of noise and danger ... not just no wake zones ... the behaviour of the few... Etc.. but if you have an ancient port or coastal village with streets that people can walk through but were built for a loaded donkey as a goods vehicle ...you dont want screaming engines and blaring music or even large yatchs taking over.
The noise and speed also make them a risk to marine animals and even nesting birds.
End of jet skis?? How do you catch air on that thing?.??
The JetSki crowd has nothing to worry about with this thing,but I’m sure mega yachts will have to have two or three of them.
Love the noise. I love this toy
Would be interesting to farm on the Seas with a Catemaran as the harverster!
Imagine one could place swimming pots in rows on a fishing rope behind one.
Of course with an anker and wheights at spots to keep it in shape.
Then harvesting the crops of what ever can grow...
Perhaps the foils could retract like sailboat centerboards, into a well? Reduce draft by half?
This is very cool
That would have to happen to be even remotely practical seeing going into shallow water is a no-no and catching seaweed is another nightmare
That’s brilliant, now they need to switch to a bigger brushless motor, higher C lipo’s to triple the speed.
higher voltage for more speed
And have to come in to shore 3 times faster! Why not just install a small gas engine and be out there for hours?! This company could make millions installing these kits (with a prop locater kit) for existing Jet Ski owners! Just have to figure out how to get water up there for water cooling.
@@len9483 or wait 1 year put an lfp batery with 360 wat per kilo and leave the bronze age behind.
@@RR-qj1ji That gasoline powered car you have in the garage tells me you love living in the bronze age. I can ride all day till I'm sore the next day on my jet ski. Gasoline aint going nowhere.
@@len9483 i own an electric scooter and pay 1$ /100km.
Looks cool.
When did the definition of silent change? That thing is quiet but not silent.
12 knots for two hours versus 50+ knots all day long. I don’t think this contraption spells the end for Jetski‘s.
Fat Chance at that Price
Yeah mate, and at that price, the general market wont adopt it and what about shallow water?? It has to be drafting at least 30 inches or more. A Waverunner can run in about 10 inches.
It's a novelty. It may even have a following. But I'm keeping my ski, too.
@@martysk8r Overpriced Overboat! Young Punks think they are going to get rich!! HaHaHa. No Way Jose mark my words
I probably will when the fuel cost a fortune...
How would you put this thing on a trailer with those hydrofoils sticking down?
Will it cross Lake Michigan on a single charge?
This is a very strong alternative towards a jetski. It seems also a lot quiter and has more comfort. No brainer for me.
i love the lack of noise, i always wanted a jetski, except when im on the water and one goes flying by. there went the peace and quiet out on the water.
Definitely interested in it for my jet ski rentals, would be an entirely different thing side of the business- dangerous with an exposed propeller rather than jet ski impeller, and not as fast.
Charging will become a problem very fast.
Just needs a fishing version!
It's really neat. And there will be more of these.. and probably something with a gasoline motor and high output that will be very quick. It's just the start but no 'this' will not spell the end for jet skis.
That looks epic fun
I'm sorry...I could have sworn you said €20k for a craft that goes 15n. To answer your question, no...i don't believe it spells the end of Jetskis! 😅
Totally taken the fun out of what a jet ski gives you.
Doesn't look like it will turn 😕
SURE was a SMOOTH day on the protected harbor, perfect for a commercial!
How much does it draw water when not running ?
Like 3 feet ? So I won't be able to get to the beach without swimming ?
Good gosh, that looks like MASSIVE fun! Adding this as an option alongside the helicopter on my superyacht. 🤡
Good gosh??? 😄
@@mr.vancouver007 Profound apologies for my inexorable potty mouth, sir. It always gets me into trouble. 🚽🤡😜
Do you have a Superyacht or getting a discounted Russian Superyacht :)
@@darrellpugh6186 🤣
Two incomparable watercrafts. This would be great for commuting. Feeling the water under the jetski is kind of the point of it
Who tf is commuting in the ocean
@@solarflare4345 Hong Kongers could
I can see a huge disadvantage in that it has a draft that has to be close to that of a smaller sailboat. That will severly limit it's use in shallow harbors and near-shore areas. Not a fan of jetskis, but they draw very little water and can be run right onto a beach (with the engine off!). This thing looks like it draws well over a meter, maybe 1.5.
That would be a fun boat for the pool!
Nah mate! Tula has gotta be able to see and hear me doing spectacular he man stunts in the no wash zone. Otherwise what is the point bro??????
These are absolutely *not* "silent" and I actually really think it's a shame they're trying to market them as such. They make an awesome futuristic noise that is much quieter than a conventional engine and honestly that's a selling point: "Quiet, futuristic cruising". Though I will say there's no risk of them replacing jetskis until they start making them do upwards of 40 knots
And drastically increase useable runtime.
The dude can talk over the noise in a normal speaking voice while cruising at 20 knots... pretty damn near silent.
and back flips
@@CowtownRox Never did 20 knots 15 top. And it wasn't silent ,Quiet yes but not silent.
Brilliant!
This as a hybrid would be perfect 👌
Looks trendy but boring
To me.
This is just the beginning. The noise reduction is a big plus. The batteries will get better and the speed/range will only increase. Cool. $25g's?
Woaaa i need this in my life, any idea how far can it go?
Love it, I want one. Too bad it's not just a bit faster, 20/25 knots would be nice?
It doesn’t appear obnoxious enough for the yahoos who live around me. It needs to be way louder for them.
Could maybe add some boom boxes and play very loud music?!
No this isn’t the end of skis, don’t lie to yourself
And how long do you need to charge that and where can you charge that?
I would argue that one of the main allures to jet skiing is the ability to creat huge sprays. Yes, there is a market for a quiet jet ski, as well as the smoother ride one would get on a Overboat, but replacing one with the other seems unlikely, as they are vastly different…😊👍🏽
id argue its the maneuverability, and acceleration that attracts people to jet skis.
Foils will never replace conventional hulls, they simply dont work in rough seas
That depends on how rough the seas are and how tall the foils are. Having ridden in a large hydrofoil in 4' -5' seas in the open ocean I can tell you they work just fine.
It'll be perfectly fine for this application though. Anyone without a deathwish wont be out in weather beyond a small craft advisory, let alone trying to cross the ocean on something so small.
This is basically going to make diving anywhere where people might use these extremely dangerous. At least divers could hear boats before, now the potential incidence of collision between surfacing divers and someone drunk on one of these is a deadly encounter for at least one person, and it's much harder to avoid for the diver because they cannot hear it.
With fast, foiling sailboats, there was much less of a problem because they generally didn't want to go near dive areas. These kinds of things are going to be used in mooring fields and marinas where people might be snorkeling, swimming, diving and someone not paying attention on one of these can kill someone.
All that said, I'd love to try one.
I guess the same philosophy could be applied to pedestrians being hit by electric cars? At least these can be geofenced/GPS regulated and only allowed to operate in certain zones. Or dive buoys have a geofence around them perhaps
@@yachtingworld there are laws in some countries that make electric vehicles have additional sounds for pedestrian safety.
@@yachtingworld
Fair enough, but in the electric-car and pedestrian encounter, both parties have equal ability to spot each other. In this situation, the person on the foiling vehicle cannot see the diver. And in murky-enough water, the diver cannot see the vehicle, nor hear it
The good thing is it will slice your head clean off, so it won't really be a problem.
not really if you use a diver down flag. same rules apply.... common sense my friend.
Please market these like crazy!!! Jetskis in our harbor are so overbearing. These are brilliant, & Yes, do a video at Haulover!
Looks like fun to me!
Oh please, a pooff boat. That kind of speed will never put skis out of business. Super soft!
I agree.
Idk but it seems super boring
So you saying your the type that like to kill yourself & others around you doing 100mph to have fun ? 😂😂😂
As compared to…
Amazing
where can i put my fishing rods. i often fish on my ski. I need to bring my esky / chilly bin / ice box etc. and tackle box as well. This is definitely not for me. I don't see sea world replacing their stunt jet skis anytime soon either. Cool technology though. For licence purposes, would this be a personal watercraft or a boat?
HAHAHAh Replace an RXT or RXP never,this was hilarious 😂
It's cool but soooo sloooow... This will never compete with jetskis unless you add another 15 knots to the top speed!
Which may involve 4 times the power (to double the speed)
It seems like a rich early adopter's toy that's a step past the development R&D stage. Now imagine if the same tech could be applied to something with the motive powerplant of a jet ski. If the lift foils are small enough to present less drag than a jet ski hull when planing, then that thing would haul.
Still would be too slow
How long will it take before one runs into a swimmer? If you can’t hear it coming, it will be hard to get out of the way.
How much draft depth is required?
So much better than a pollution-spewing, noisy jet-ski. Can charge from solar panels, hydrogeneration, etc.
Except I can buy a seadoo for about 3K used and have way more fun.
How much are those water jet packs? If they make those foils shallow draft feasible & you can jet off yacht to the Soggy Dollar on shore....
The foils need to be retractable and the overall design sleeker. The wooden deck is cute. Keep iterating!
It's an overpriced novelty item and no, you'd be nuts to this is a viable substitute for a PWC.
What a joke compared to a jetski that will do 70. Cool but not close the only pro is you can do top speed in no wake zones
Where do you get the fossil fuels to put in that jetski? Do you buy it from Putin? Maybe Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia? Or perhaps Sayyid Ali Hosseini Khamenei in Iran?
WoW looks like handles Good - how are foils stored ?
Interesting that the multiple fouls are constantly auto adjusting to keep the ride smooth. Almost like a gyro works on 3D RC helicopters. Seems to be a very smooth ride that would be marketable to the older generation as I don’t see much maneuverability available for the young crowd. Pretty cool though.
Like electric cars you could switch modes .. and for performance take a look at where electric MCycles have gone in terms of speeds and ranges.
This is the lamest PWC I have ever seen, especially for 20K euros.
Hows it handle on choppy water?
super nice
I think they're really cool. With that said, what's it like transporting this to the water?
Oh Thurston...look at that Foiler. Wait till I tell Buffy and Pip at the club.
Nice review but, you could have put some information about the company in the notes so we might have the option of actually getting in contact and purchasing this wonderful product.
How does it deal with a fish hit? On Wind and Wing foil boards, the effect is a rude face plant into the water.
Can someone explain me why those two (sides) foilers are in a middle of a boat? Why not at the ending - I mean right on the front?
Looks like fun 👍🙂